Why Trump Will Lose IN 2020

  
By:  john-russell  •  2 months ago  •  125 comments

Why Trump Will Lose IN 2020
But here is the thing. Once Trump's unfitness for office became apparent to the previous Obama voters who went for him in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, once his bizarre and offensive performance as president became painfully obvious, those people left him in the mid terms, and they are not going back. 





He cheats. He lies. He steals. He acts with cruelty. He relishes hate. It’s still stunning to realize millions & millions knew all this & still they wanted him to lead our country. It’s stunning to realize millions & millions are watching this now & still want him in charge.

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Trump will lose because more people realize the above is true than deny it is true. 

According to a Morning Consult poll, Trump's disapproval rating in Michigan is 55% now.  Michigan is arguably THE key state to Trump's re-election hopes. It's flipping from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016 was the bellweather for Trump's electoral victory. 

In the 2018 mid term elections, many people who had voted for Trump, particularly in the upper midwest states of Michigan and Wisconsin, and also in Pennsylvania, returned to supporting Democratic candidates , in defiance of Trump's expressed wishes. 

Trump's major and insurmountable problem is that his behavior , in the White House as president, has been so abhorrent and dysfunctional that it has turned off millions of people who voted for him in 2016. 

Although I have been largely critical of people who voted for Trump in the last presidential election, it is no doubt true that some of his supporters were not aware of Trump's history of dishonest, unethical, and shameful behavior, and chose him over the Democratic candidate because they wanted "change" and believed that Trump's material wealth meant that he was a good and decent man who knew how to get things done and had the background in business they wanted to see in their president. 

Now, it was well known before the 2016 election that Trump had an actual background of cheating, lying, bankruptcy, misogyny, but it seems that these facts did not seep down to a section of blue collar and middle class voters who developed faith and trust in Trump. 

So, unexpectedly, likely even to trump himself, he won. Just enough people in the "swing states" had chosen to cast their lot with the "disrupter". 

But then, after taking office and power, Trump began his incredible blizzard of lies, misinformation, often times nonsense, vindictiveness, bizarre tweets, and we began to see White House dysfunction, numerous books pointing out how chaotic the administration, and even Trump's day to day thinking, was, ridiculous nicknaming "Little Rocket Man" , insulting our time tested international allies, pushing other heads of state out of the way so Trump could properly preen for publicity photos, saying "there are good people on both sides" (when one of the sides were anti-semititc and anti-black neo-Nazis) , separation of children from their parents at the border, and countless other malfunctions of presidential behavior and expression. 

People who voted for Trump in 2016 have abandoned him. Not a lot, he still has a base of roughly 40%, but more than enough to cost him the election in 2020. 

But here is the thing. Once Trump's unfitness for office became apparent to the previous Obama voters who went for him in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, once his bizarre and offensive performance as president became painfully obvious, those people left him in the mid terms, and they are not going back. 

To go back to Trump they would have to re-lie to themselves and pretend they didn't see what they have seen since Trump took office. That is not human nature. "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me" 

It is highly likely that the 2020 election will be a repeat of the mid terms, in other words an overall rebuke of Trump and trumpism. 

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Trump had his chance. He could have grown into the office and maybe kept some of those "Obama" voters, but it's too late now. 

 
 
 
WallyW
1.1  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

He's kept the base and continues to pick up independents and fed up (with their own party) Democrats. People don't really care about his alleged character flaws, they're more concerned with jobs, the economy, stopping illegal immigration, and keeping us out of war.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  WallyW @1.1    2 months ago
continues to pick up independents

The evidence shows the exact opposite.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/08/24/trump_losing_the_supporters_he_needs_most_independents_134825.html

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/685539207/poll-trump-approval-down-slips-with-base

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/10/politics/cnn-poll-trump-approval-independents/index.html

"People don't really care about his alleged character flaws"

Nonsense. The majority of Americans do think character matters which is why they disapprove of the job this President is doing.

"they're more concerned with jobs, the economy, stopping illegal immigration, and keeping us out of war"

While those are all important issues, the majority of people recognize how well the economy was doing before Trump and how he has simply ridden on the coattails of a nearly complete recovery. Unemployment was already down to 4.7%, a reduction of 10% under Obama while trump has overseen a drop of just .8% since taking office. And Trumps appeasement of dictators and authoritarians is not making any of us feel safer or think the threat of war has been lessened, it has merely thrown confusion into the mix and the compromises he has made to NK in return for nothing but an empty promise made us less safe and less prepared.

Trump has always been a loser, an abject failure of a human being with an expensive gold painted façade built around him paid for with his daddy's money. He's a liar, a cheat, an admitted sexual predator with more than a dozen credible accusations of sexual assault against him, a serial adulterer who has cheated on all three of his wives even when some were home with his newborn children, he has bankrupted half a dozen companies, he doesn't pay his bills and constantly breaks his promises then uses high priced attorneys to force settlements and makes everyone in his orbit sign essentially promises of loyalty NDA's then threatens anyone who might go public with truth about what they experienced around Trump with defamation lawsuits and NDA breach lawsuits extorting them into silence. Is there a chance of that kind of person being re-elected in 2020? Only with the help of a lot of either truly sick minded or monumentally gullible individuals.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.1    2 months ago

Yes, and those self same poles showed Hillary winning in a landslide.  They mean just as much now as they did then.

TDS is not a platform. The Dems would be better served weeding the radicals out of their overflowing clown car, and concentrating on moving more towards the center.  Right now that is impossible given all the free press the left wing nut jobs are being given. 

Or, stay the course and get prepared for another 4 years of screaming at the sky. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.1    2 months ago
Nonsense. The majority of Americans do think character matters which is why they disapprove of the job this President is doing.

The evidence contradicting this is overwhelming.

Americans think the character of "the other guy" matters.  We are as divided today on Trump's character as we were on Bill Clinton's 25 years ago.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.3    2 months ago
The evidence contradicting this is overwhelming.

Trumps most recent Gallup poll approval rating: 39%

Trumps average approval rating since taking office: 39%

Trumps highest Gallup approval rating ever: 45% (Has never broken half, thus has never had the approval of the majority of Americans).

Trumps most recent Gallup poll disapproval rating: 57%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

Even after the Barr memo most Americans aren't changing their opinion based on 4 pages from a hand picked partisan AG.

"Most Americans — 75 percent of poll respondents — say they still need to see the entire report to better understand what happened. That sentiment emerged across the political spectrum, with 54 percent of Republicans wanting to see the report, along with 90 percent of Democrats and 74 percent of people who identify as politically independent." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/muellers-report-should-be-made-public-most-americans-say

So where is this "overwhelming" evidence that the majority of Americans don't disapprove of this mental blunt object of a President?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.4    2 months ago

No one has ever gone their entire term in office without ever getting to 50% in approval ratings, until now. 

The surest thing on this earth , right up there with death and taxes, is that Trump will be the first to never hit 50%. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    2 months ago
No one has ever gone their entire term in office without ever getting to 50% in approval ratings, until now. 

I do believe that the 39% think of themselves as superior Americans to the other 61%. We know that professed white supremacists, proclaimed Nazi's and many KKK members have professed their allegiance to Trump so some of that 39% is made up of those who believe their race makes them superior. Then we have those who believe their faith makes them superior, and others still who believe they are superior based on the fact they live in rural areas or worked in coal mines and aren't the "Big city folk" they so despise. That's why they love the electoral college which gives them weighted votes counting for 3 to 4 times more than a vote from California or New York, they believe themselves "superior" and thus deserving of extra votes and extra influence. And they account for their not being in the majority anymore by claiming all the rest of America is made up of illegal immigrants, criminals and supposedly Muslim loving PC atheist pussy hat wearing violent pacifist fascist snowflakes (try to wrap your head around that incongruity).

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    2 months ago
No one has ever gone their entire term in office without ever getting to 50% in approval ratings, until now. 

Give it time John....  he has six years to go.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.8  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.4    2 months ago
So where is this "overwhelming" evidence that the majority of Americans don't disapprove of this mental blunt object of a President?

As I have already explained, the point was that Americans do not care about character.  

We are ridiculously, stupidly inconsistent and hypocritical about it. 

Liberals everywhere loudly support the "metoo" movement...yet defend Bill Clinton, who was accused multiple times and admitted to the same misconduct that saw Matt Lauer fired and driven into hiding.  

Evangelical conservatives loudly support a compulsive liar and serial adulterer, despite him bragging about his escapades handling the genitalia of sexually promiscuous gold-diggers.

We don't give a flying fuck about character.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.3    2 months ago

I wonder what percentage of Americans changed their opinion of Bill Clinton from good to bad because of the "blow job"? Would it be at least equal to those who previously didn't but after that experience supported him?

 
 
 
pat wilson
1.1.10  pat wilson  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.8    2 months ago
While I agree with most of your post I don't think trump made this distinction : sexually promiscuous gold-diggers. I think he referred to women in general.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.11  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.9    2 months ago
I wonder what percentage of Americans changed their opinion of Bill Clinton from good to bad because of the "blow job"? Would it be at least equal to those who previously didn't but after that experience supported him?

I'm not sure I follow.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.10    2 months ago

He didn't specify, but I promise he wasn't grabbing at law partners or city councilwomen.

The biggest problem with that statement was that he said it out loud.  The second biggest problem is that deep down everybody knows he wasn't lying (for once).

 
 
 
pat wilson
1.1.13  pat wilson  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.12    2 months ago
The biggest problem with that statement was that he said it out loud.

The biggest problem for whom ?

The second biggest problem is that deep down everybody knows he wasn't lying (for once).

Yes, like you said we as a people don't care about character any more. That is the biggest problem for me.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.11    2 months ago

I should have said "Would the percentage be at least equal to those who previously didn't support him but after that experience supported him."  In other words, did the "blow job" change the numbers?  Perhaps not, in which case, achieved knowledge of Trump's indiscretions might not change the numbers as well.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.13    2 months ago
The biggest problem for whom ?

Everyone who is aware of the statement.  

Yes, like you said we as a people don't care about character any more. That is the biggest problem for me.

I concur. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.14    2 months ago
In other words, did the "blow job" change the numbers? 

I don't know.  I think the combination of scandals worked against Al Gore in the 2000 election, but that's more of a hunch.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.17  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @1.1    one month ago

Wally agin you make an allegation that you can't substantiate In other words you do nothing than make up fairy tales

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.18  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.7    one month ago

384

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

Hey John did you see CNN's April Fools joke today? They actually reported the truth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2    2 months ago

Happy April Trumps Day!

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
1.3  Freedom Warrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

I wouldn't have thought Trump would have a chance but the left wing of the Democrat party has gone so frickin whacko that even the corrupt press and media may not help them.

Just take a look at the list of so called candidates.

You got undeclared Creepy Joe Biden.  Essentially the establishment front runner but gaffe city and everyone else in the mix is going to be taking shots at him as soon as he announces.

Then there is Mr BS himself - The Geezer whack doodle n'er do well who probably isn't even far left enough anymore for criminal element of the party.

Then maybe CamelHarris - She's got the indentity politics crowd with the black woman thing so the SJW's can check off their bucket list but may lose a few votes when everyone learns her crowning achievement was sucking Gavin's cock to the top.

Plus, you have your Fauxchahontas that I'm sure is polling even lower than her Pow Wow Chow.

Add in Beatoff O'Dork and let's see how popular his criminal record and tear down that wall rhetoric plays in the midst of a border crisis resonates.

Then, throw in a Bookie, Hickenloopy and Klawbasher and you got yourself quite a circus replete with clowns of all stripes vying for the Bozo costume and the outlook is rather dismal.

Not to mention the Green New Psycho Deal, open borders, higher taxes and socialism on steroids platform.

Oh yeah, so that's supposed please who exactly.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
1.3.1  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Freedom Warrior @1.3    2 months ago

 I forgot to mention the corruption Creepy Joe engaged in with his son Hunter.

You know they're trying to figure out right now how keep that from being exposed.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.3.2  Don Overton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @1.3    one month ago

Pretending that you have a clue about what the truth is I will say every comment in 1.3 are total lies

 
 
 
Sparty On
2  Sparty On    2 months ago

I'm having deja vu all over again ....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @2    2 months ago

Our right wing "friends" think that people who have been horrified by trump's behavior for the past 2+ years in office will vote for him anyway.  That is not what happened in the mid terms. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 months ago

What happened in the mid terms was a typical occurrence .... some would say slightly less than typical .... a "typical" changing of the guards to the non incumbent POTUS party.

Nothing more, nothing less.    But if it helps you to try and make it more than that. you are free to do so.

Carry on ...

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.1    2 months ago

Weird, isn't it, that so much more importance was put on Republican losses in the midterms under Trump when he lost fewer seats than Democrats did under Obama.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    2 months ago
Weird, isn't it, that so much more importance was put on Republican losses in the midterms under Trump when he lost fewer seats than Democrats did under Obama.

What's even better is that there were 28 Republicans that retired and the Democrats that were elected weren't running against incumbents, so those races were effectively toss ups going in.

 
 
 
Sparty On
2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.3    2 months ago

They keep letting the moon-bats drive their narrative 2020 is going to be a very, very bad year for Democrats.

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
2.1.5  XXJefferson#51  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    one month ago

Ask Clinton and Obama how their mid term results prevented their re election two years later....

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3  XDm9mm    2 months ago

Damn.....   I LOVE a good comedy screed early in the morning.   THANKS John!!!!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1  KDMichigan  replied to  XDm9mm @3    2 months ago

April fools   jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1    2 months ago

Then there are people who are fools every day. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 months ago
Then there are people who are fools every day. 

Oh we know John, we know.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 months ago

"It is the nature of every person to error, but only the fool perseveres in error."

Marcus Tullius Cicero

Well, there's one thing you can say about Trump supporters, they have some incredible perseverance sticking with Trump through all the lies, Hollywood Access bus tape, the nearly two dozen credible accusations of sexual assault, the disrespect shown to gold star families and recently deceased war heroes, the evidence of serial adultery, the cozying up with authoritarians and dictators. No other base of voters would have ever persevered through such constant seemingly never ending error.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.3    2 months ago
Well, there's one thing you can say about Trump supporters, they have some incredible perseverance sticking with Trump through all the lies, Hollywood Access bus tape, the nearly two dozen credible accusations of sexual assault, the disrespect shown to gold star families and recently deceased war heroes, the evidence of serial adultery, the cozying up with authoritarians and dictators. No other base of voters would have ever persevered through such constant seemingly never ending error.

So, when the 'collusion, collusion, collusion' mantra goes the way of the Dodo bird, it's back to personal animosity.

GOT IT!!   

Sorry John, but the economy is great, and America does not have a President going on global apology tours or denigrating the law enforcement communities.  It's a breath of fresh air after the eight years of the stench before Trump.

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
3.1.5  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 months ago
Then there are people who are fools every day.

AOC and Adam Schiff-ty comes to mind.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.4    2 months ago
So, when the 'collusion, collusion, collusion' mantra goes the way of the Dodo bird, it's back to personal animosity.

I have continued to bring up Trumps long list of failings, from paying off porn stars, his admitted desire to commit sexual assault, his profiting off the Presidency to misusing his charity, the possible criminal conspiracy only happened to be the largest turd in the bowl. Donald Trump is a joke, a caricature of a human being, which wouldn't matter at all other than the fact a minority of voters decided to use him to play a cruel joke on America by electing him President. They were so bitter, so dissatisfied with the direction America has been heading with greater equality for minorities and LGTBQ Americans and limiting the assumed right to discriminate that some religious conservatives had been enjoying, that they elected the most incompetent syphilitic mind ever to set foot in the oval office. I have no doubt that even the least experienced, least knowledgeable of white house staff, perhaps the person who is responsible for trimming the roses in the Rose garden, would make a better, more capable, less embarrassing President than the gold painted walking disaster, Donald Trump. When in the past has the bare minimum of no "criminal conspiracy" with an enemy foreign government been the only bar to determine whether we have a competent President? If that's where we are now, we are truly living in strange times.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    2 months ago
If that's where we are now, we are truly living in strange times

After reading the screed you just posted, I must agree....   we most certainly are living in strange times.

Fortunately, in 2016 saner people prevailed, and will very likely again in 2020.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.7    2 months ago
Fortunately, in 2016 saner people prevailed

So it's "sane" to ignore the mountain of flaws and faults of a candidate and vote for them just to piss off your opponents? It seems to me only the insane would chew off their own leg just to spite their enemies.

"and will very likely again in 2020"

Only in conservative Republican Bizzaro world where up is down, less is more, and fewer supporters than in 2016 can equate to a win in 2020 just because through a comedy of errors the incompetent underdog managed an unlikely anomalous win four years ago.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.1.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.8    2 months ago

That's hilarious sincevthe left had no problem ignoring the faults of his predecessor for 8 years. Oh that's right, he was perfect and had no faults did he?jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.8    2 months ago
So it's "sane" to ignore the mountain of flaws and faults of a candidate and vote for them just to piss off your opponents?

That's what the Democrats expected when they nominated Hillary to run.

The problem is that the Democrats never anticipated someone would actually challenge and destroy the Clinton political machine.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.10    2 months ago
Democrats never anticipated someone would actually challenge and destroy the Clinton political machine

True, they never expected Vladimir Putin to use the resources of the Russian government to hack their political campaign emails and illicitly release them in an effort to help the Republican nominee win the Presidency, or expect them to spend $1.25 million a month on social media propaganda using targeting data on voters they either hacked or were given by Trumps campaign manager to clear his debts with Russian billionaires. It is true, there was a lot the Democrats didn't anticipate, but then again, who would have imagined any of it possible? We have definitive conclusive proof all that happened, yet many Republicans continue give that blank stare of "Huh? Collusion? No collusion!" where the lights are on but apparently nobodies home.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.11    2 months ago
We have definitive conclusive proof all that happened, yet many Republicans continue give that blank stare of "Huh? Collusion? No collusion!" where the lights are on but apparently nobodies home.

Then PROVIDE all that CONCLUSIVE PROOF.   It appears that Robert Mueller and his entire team of essentially TRUMP HATERS could not in two years FIND any evidence.

BUT....   there is evidence, and even confessions of Democrats doing everything they could to destroy the Sanders campaign to ensure the chosen one, Hillary Clinton, would gain the Democrat nomination for President.

If you want COLLUSION, look no further than the Democrats HOLDING and SEEKING power in 2016.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.12    2 months ago
It appears that Robert Mueller and his entire team of essentially TRUMP HATERS could not in two years FIND any evidence.

You do know denial isn't a river in Egypt don't you?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44825345

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/01/how-russia-helped-to-swing-the-election-for-trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/russia-election-hacking-trump-putin-698087

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/08/03/russian-us-election-interference-donald-trump/878910002/

https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/russian-election-hacking

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference-election-trump-clinton.html

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/16/17575940/russian-election-hack-democrats-trump-putin-diagram

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/manafort-trump-campaign-data-kilimnik.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/08/manafort-russian-poll-share-konstantin-kilimnik-trump-investigation-2016-election-latest

Even when asked by a journalist, “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

You'll notice nothing in my post accused Trump of directly conspiring with Putin, we do not have conclusive evidence of that even though all the circumstantial evidence appears to indicate such, so what I said was absolutely true. As I said, "We have definitive conclusive proof" "Vladimir Putin" used "the resources of the Russian government to hack their political campaign emails and illicitly release them in an effort to help the Republican nominee win the Presidency, or expect them to spend $1.25 million a month on social media propaganda using targeting data on voters they either hacked or were given by Trumps campaign manager to clear his debts with Russian billionaires". Nothing from the Mueller report (which we haven't seen yet) refutes that.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.14  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.13    2 months ago
"We have definitive conclusive proof"

Show the fucking PROOF....

NOT stories from some newspapers.   PROOF as in DIRECT EVIDENCE from reputable and verifiable sources.

WASHINGTON — The investigation led by Robert S. Mueller III found no evidence that President Trump or any of his aides coordinated with the Russian government’s 2016 election interference, according to a summary of the special counsel’s key findings made public on Sunday by Attorney General William P. Barr.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/us/politics/mueller-report-summary.html

Do you see that hard word EVIDENCE?   Provide EVIDENCE or stop wasting your and my time.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.13    2 months ago

https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-elections-interference/

Far from being a sophisticated propaganda campaign, it was small, amateurish, and mostly unrelated to the 2016 election.

Spending: Also hurting the case that the Russians reached a large number of Americans is that they spent such a microscopic amount of money to do it. Oxford puts the IRA’s Facebook spending between 2015 and 2017 at just $73,711. As was previously known, about $46,000 was spent on Russian-linked Facebook ads before the 2016 election. That amounts to about 0.05 percent of the $81 million spent on Facebook ads by the Clinton and Trump campaigns combined. A recent disclosure by Google that Russian-linked accounts spent $4,700 on platforms in 2016 only underscores how minuscule that spending was. The researchers also claim that the IRA’s “manipulation of American political discourse had a budget that exceeded $25 million USD.” But that number is based on a widely repeated error that mistakes the IRA’s spending on US-related activities for its parent project’s overall global budget, including domestic social-media activity in Russia.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.16  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.13    2 months ago

Nary a bit of proof in all those "sources".

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4  KDMichigan    2 months ago

Hillary wins hands down....

Say John its nice that you like these predictions but are saying that no matter who runs against President Trump will win?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  KDMichigan @4    2 months ago
Hillary wins hands down....

No matter how many times a rightwing lie is smacked down it never dies. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.1    2 months ago

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  KDMichigan @4    2 months ago
Say John its nice that you like these predictions but are saying that no matter who runs against President Trump will win?

For the sake of us all, I hope John is right.  Our only hope of healing this country will be if both sides nominate someone who cares more about the United States and it's citizens than they do themselves.

Serious question:  Would you vote for Donald Trump again?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    2 months ago
Would you vote for Donald Trump again?

This is the 64,000 dollar question, as they used to say. (For those unfamiliar with the reference,  it was an old tv game show where 64K was the top prize).  SOME Trump voters had an excuse in 2016, they hadn't been paying attention and knew nothing about him. But no one can say that in 2020. Anyone who votes for him after his behavior the past 4 years will need to be ashamed of themselves. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    2 months ago
Would you vote for Donald Trump again?

Why not.   He's done great for this country and it's people and economy.

He's finally let the rest of the world know that while we will be there for them if needed, the focus of Americans will shift from 'saving and securing' every other country at the expense of America to saving and securing America first and those other places will have to step up to the plate and help themselves first.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    2 months ago

I didn't vote for him the first time.

I would have if my only other choice had been Bernie.

Will I vote for him next year?   Depends on what the other choice is.

Against most of the hard left Democratic field....I'll vote for Trump.  Against a moderate...probably not.

What Democrats don't seem to get is that the people in the middle decide elections.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.2    2 months ago

The turd in chief hasn't done dick for this country or its people and economy (unless you're part of the rich and filthy rich).  

 
 
 
WallyW
4.2.5  WallyW  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    2 months ago
Would you vote for Donald Trump again?

Yep...why in the world would I vote for a Democrat....as they are presently constructed. They have shown themselves completely out of touch with mainstream Americans, have forgotten how to govern, and none of the current crop of candidates is fit or smart enough to be president. 

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
4.2.6  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  Jack_TX @4.2.3    2 months ago

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Raven Wing
4.2.7  Raven Wing  replied to  BeastOfTheEast @4.2.6    2 months ago
There are no moderates in the Democratic party all of them are far left radicals to the point of being anarchist. 

And you know all this for sure how? You state it as a fact. Please tell us how you know this for a fact.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2.8  Jack_TX  replied to  BeastOfTheEast @4.2.6    2 months ago
There are no moderates in the Democratic party all of them are far left radicals to the point of being anarchist.

999 of 1000 could be moderates and it wouldn't matter if they nominate Bernie or Warren or Booker or Harris or any of another dozen who pander to leftist whackjobs.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.9  XDm9mm  replied to  Raven Wing @4.2.7    2 months ago
Please tell us how you know this for a fact.

While not a "fact", who the Democrats are contemplating as Presidental nominees, it's pretty indicative.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
4.2.10  Raven Wing  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.9    2 months ago
While not a "fact", who the Democrats are contemplating as Presidental nominees, it's pretty indicativ

You can also say that about who the Republicans are contemplating as Presidential nominee is pretty indicative of far right radicals to the point of being anarchrists as well. 

Trump is not by a long shot a pure soul, untainted nor devoid of any of the same things that any Democrat may be accused of. 

There are no untainted candidates on either side. No decent American would be caught involved in the gutter slime of politics. On BOTH sides. So your degrading and insulting remarks about Democrats also applies to Republicans.

Neither side is 'clean' by any stretch.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.2.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Raven Wing @4.2.7    2 months ago
tell us how you know this for a fact.Please

Name those moderates.

Thanks!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
4.2.12  Raven Wing  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.11    2 months ago
Name those moderates.

Your words. Your statement of facts. You have the responsibility to name them, not me.

Thanks!

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
4.2.13  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Raven Wing @4.2.7    one month ago

Beast of the east; you are right on in what you were quoted as saying.  It is fact and no exaggeration at all.  Well said.  

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
5  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ    2 months ago

The current line up of Wacky Women and Beta males who are more concerned about apologizing for their genitals stand no chance. 

In a few months out of the Bull Pen, warmed up and ready to pitch is the Hillary. Bottom of the sixth, they are bringing her in!

You heard it here first. Remember this, I'm going to link it with a big I told ya.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @5    2 months ago
In a few months out of the Bull Pen, warmed up and ready to pitch is the Hillary. Bottom of the sixth, they are bringing her in!

That raging case of Hillary Derangement Syndrome (complicated by Scumbag Worship Disease) is worsening by the day.

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
5.1.1  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1    2 months ago

She's working on that moose knuckle ball in the bull pen right now....LOL

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @5    2 months ago
You heard it here first. Remember this, I'm going to link it with a big I told ya

No way, Mr. Big Fins.  Even the people who voted for her last time, one of which was me, would vote for her again.  Too much water under that bridge.

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
5.2.1  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.2    2 months ago

Chalk it down Sister. It's gonna happen.

If it doesn't I'll drive up and buy lunch.

384

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.2.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @5.2.1    2 months ago
If it doesn't I'll drive up and buy lunch.

Do I get to say where?

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
5.2.3  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.2.2    2 months ago

Anywhere but a male strip joint with bratwurst on menu.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.2.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @5.2.1    2 months ago
Chalk it down Sister. It's gonna happen.

Terminal case.  So sad. 

 
 
 
luther28
6  luther28    2 months ago

He cheats. He lies. He steals. He acts with cruelty. He relishes hate. It’s still stunning to realize millions & millions knew all this & still they wanted him to lead our country. It’s stunning to realize millions & millions are watching this now & still want him in charge.

Mr. Trump has not altered his MO for the past forty some years and yet here he remains (in truth he has become worse). I have mentioned this before, but I suppose it can not be said enough (should you want to unseat Mr. Trump that is): I would not be so smug as to the defeat of Mr. Trump. The economy is chugging along, unemployment is low etc., people need a reason to vote for another and not being Mr. Trump is not enough.

If indeed your prognostication is going to bear fruit, then the Dems might want to come up with some viable programs, explain the cost and how they will benefit the general public (the Green Deal although a noble notion, is not plausible), but that is my thought.

 

 
 
 
cms5
6.1  cms5  replied to  luther28 @6    2 months ago
The economy is chugging along, unemployment is low etc., people need a reason to vote for another and not being Mr. Trump is not enough. If indeed your prognostication is going to bear fruit, then the Dems might want to come up with some viable programs, explain the cost and how they will benefit the general public (the Green Deal although a noble notion, is not plausible), but that is my thought.

Agreed. We all knew Trump wasn't a politician...part of the draw for many. The Dems will need to choose well.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  cms5 @6.1    one month ago
The Dems will need to choose well.

I'd put it that the Dems need not to choose poorly.  There's a difference.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
6.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.1.1    one month ago

In 2016, they chose ...... poorly.

Not to hear the pollsters tell it back then but there you go

Forward to 2019 and the butt-hurt remains.   Becoming a chronic condition for many.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.2    one month ago
In 2016, they chose ...... poorly.

And yet the voters of the country felt otherwise by 3 million votes. The EC is what chose poorly as it has always done every time it has chosen the president.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.1.3    one month ago

Gee, according to the United States Constitution, the electoral college ALWAYS selects the President of the United States.

So now, in your very own words, you are CLEARLY stating that the electoral college has chosen badly almost every 4 years.

Hmmm, most Americans have always liked it, and now we are subjected to buffoonish attempts to do away with the ec. What changed? Oh, that's right--the left didn't get their way, and 2 1/2 years later, are still whining and crying about it, unable to accept the results of the election. That is really sad for them.

 
 
 
Sparty On
6.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.1.3    one month ago
The EC is what chose poorly as it has always done every time it has chosen the president.  

Nah, the EC did exactly what it was intended to do and therefore the sea hag didn’t win.

unfortunately a few folks are butthurt over it but not enough to ever change it.    Time to finally deal with that ..... yeah buddy

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
6.1.6  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.1.3    one month ago

Except that it has chosen the President every time with maybe one exception where there was no EC majority and it went to the House.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  luther28 @6    2 months ago
The economy is chugging along, unemployment is low etc., people need a reason to vote for another and not being Mr. Trump is not enough. If indeed your prognostication is going to bear fruit, then the Dems might want to come up with some viable programs, explain the cost and how they will benefit the general public (the Green Deal although a noble notion, is not plausible), but that is my thought.

Actually, I completely disagree with your premise. Trump is the worst president in our history as a nation. He is completely corrupt and dishonest, and is an ignoramus to boot. There is already more than sufficient reason to vote against Trump. What are we as a people? We will keep this abhorrent human being in office for four more years simply because the unemployment rate is low? There isnt even any compelling evidence that the low unemployment rate is due to him. 

I do think the Democratic candidate matters, and they need to nominate a traditional type Democrat, and not one farther left, this time. Assuming that the Dem candidate is mainstream, no one should vote for Trump. If you do your integrity is shot. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.2.1  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 months ago
Trump is the worst president in our history as a nation.

When your friends talk about the GOAT basketball player, is it always a choice between LeBron or Steph Curry?  Does the GOAT musician argument come down to Drake vs Post Malone vs Taylor Swift?

He may be the worst president in your lifetime.  

But American history is actually longer than that.

 
 
 
luther28
6.2.2  luther28  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 months ago
Actually, I completely disagree with your premise. Trump is the worst president in our history as a nation. He is completely corrupt and dishonest, and is an ignoramus to boot.

John, I never said that he was not any of these things, what I said is the people will need a reason to vote against him and the Dems have not really offered one to date. If the Dems are of the mind that they have 2020 in the bag ( see 2016) then they have already lost.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.2.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  luther28 @6.2.2    one month ago
If the Dems are of the mind that they have 2020 in the bag ( see 2016) then they have already lost.

I see no evidence of anything like that attitude now.  The same mobilization going on at local levels everywhere around the country that flipped 42 R house seats to D in 2018 is alive and well.  Dems are taking nothing for granted in 2020.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2.3    one month ago
I see no evidence of anything like that attitude now. The same mobilization going on at local levels everywhere around the country that flipped 42 R house seats to D in 2018 is alive and well. Dems are taking nothing for granted in 2020.

Don't be putting too much stock into the midterms.

After all, a wildly popular President recently lost more seats than the GOP did with Trump. Surely you remember that?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.4    one month ago

Trump has lost much of his support in the upper midwest.  The reason he has lost that support is not because people dont like the economy, it is because they came to realize that Trump is not fit for office.  That is not something you go back and forth on.  None of those who left trump in the mid terms because he is not fit for office are going back to him. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.5    one month ago
Trump has lost much of his support in the upper midwest. The reason he has lost that support is not because people dont like the economy, it is because they came to realize that Trump is not fit for office. That is not something you go back and forth on. None of those who left trump in the mid terms because he is not fit for office are going back to him.

Are you just as sure now as you were when you were sure Hillary was going to win?

Sorry, but your track record on "predictions" isn't very good.

But it is amusing.

Thank you.

 
 
 
WallyW
6.3  WallyW  replied to  luther28 @6    2 months ago

Guess what?

He actually is leading the country, much to the consternation of the Democrats.

More successes are in store once left wing obstacles are erased and overcome.

This time around, even more MILLIONS & MILLIONS of patriotic voters will cause him to win again.

And he never gets tired of winning.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
7  Ed-NavDoc    2 months ago

Only time will tell for sure. Predictions are like opinions and certain bodily orifices. Everybody has one...

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7    2 months ago
Predictions are like opinions and certain bodily orifices. Everybody has one...

But only one of the two you allude to has any practical or functional purpose.....  and I'll submit, it's NOT//NOT the bodily orifice.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1    2 months ago
But only one of the two you allude to has any practical or functional purpose.....  and I'll submit, it's NOT//NOT the bodily orifice.

MY BAD!!!!   My posit above SHOULD have read:

But only one of the two you allude to has any practical or functional purpose.....  and I'll submit, it's NOT//NOT the "Predictions and opinions".

Bad XD, bad, bad, bad XD!!

Why did no one else catch that??

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1.1    2 months ago

The biggest problem i see with you is that you're 9mm and not 45!

jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.2    2 months ago
The biggest problem i see with you is that you're 9mm and not 45!

Why carry something that heavy, and be limited to 10 +1 as opposed to 19 +1?

Going on the three shot tap, I can go 6 targets before I have to reload as opposed to 3 targets.

Ya have to consider those walking dead zombies in a herd after all.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1.3    2 months ago
Ya have to consider those walking dead zombies in a herd after all.

I have my 590 for that.   Line em up right and you can hope to get 10-12 zombies per trigger pull with double aught.  

Thats like a hundy melons per reload ........ jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    2 months ago

He "cheats?" How?

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
8.1  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago

Because She lost and the media promised me she'd win 107% chance guaranteed.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @8.1    2 months ago

Oh yeah. I forgot about his Sith Lord powers.

 
 
 
cjcold
8.2  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago

Besides cheating on all of his wives, he cheats at golf, cheats on his taxes, cheats in all of his business dealings and cheated this country out of a  kind, intelligent, decent, stable human being as president.   

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  cjcold @8.2    2 months ago
he cheats at golf

Not to diminish all the other shortcomings, but for anyone who has ever teed it up and suffered through a round with someone who has so little regard for the game, it only confirms a serious lack of character. Imagine he welches on his bets and is a crappy tipper, too.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @8.2    2 months ago
and cheated this country out of a  kind, intelligent, decent, stable human being as president

I really don't think Trump had anything to do with Mitt Romney losing his election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  r.t..b... @8.2.1    2 months ago

I used to have a friend who shot 81 every time.  Well, that was the upper limit. If he could legitimately get under 81 he would claim it, but 81 was as high as he would go. The problem is, when you do such things everyone who is with you more than once on the golf course notices it. It became a joke among the rest of us. 

No one would make side bets with him because if you didnt follow every single one of his shots you couldnt trust his score. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.2.4  r.t..b...  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    2 months ago
It became a joke

Whether on a golf course, a pick-up game at the gym, the regaling of old exploits, or actually any shared experience...it doesn't take long to identify the poser in the crowd. They wear their insecurities like a crown. It's sad to see those wanna-be's try to negotiate their alternate realities. 

 
 
 
WallyW
8.2.5  WallyW  replied to  cjcold @8.2    2 months ago
and cheated this country out of a  kind, intelligent, decent, stable human being as president.   

He won fair and square, doesn't cheat, and HRC is not a kind, intelligent, decent, stable human being.  

 
 
 
cjcold
8.2.6  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.2    2 months ago

Romney is as big a shyster as Trump. He didn't need anybody to help him lose.

Bain Capital did him in.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @8.2.6    2 months ago

You said "kind, intelligent, decent, stable human being." That sounds a lot like Mitt Romney and not at all like Hillary Clinton. At minimum, I would love to see you try to substantiate the claim that she is "stable."

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.2.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.7    2 months ago
"stable."

Well, she is when she has a few big guys holding her up by the arms.  Other than that, she has a tendency to stumble and fall.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  XDm9mm @8.2.8    2 months ago
Other than that, she has a tendency to stumble and fall.

She's like that on the issues, too.

Evolution Or Expediency? Clinton's Changing Positions Over A Long Career

7 of Hillary Clinton’s Biggest Flip-Flops

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Even when she can stand, you can't tell what she stands for. jrSmiley_40_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.2.10  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.2    one month ago
I really don't think Trump had anything to do with Mitt Romney losing his election.

You're right.  President Obama did that.  What a disappointment Mittens must have been for you. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8.2.10    one month ago
What a disappointment Mittens must have been for you.

Probably not as big of a disappointment as Hillary losing was for you.

After all, the GOP wasn't whining and crying 2 1/2 years later about it.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.2.12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.11    one month ago
After all, the GOP wasn't whining and crying 2 1/2 years later about it.

Yeah, except that's exactly what you were doing.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8.2.12    one month ago
eah, except that's exactly what you were doing.

That's real nice.

Now prove it.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.2.14  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.13    one month ago
Now prove it.

Whining along with Scumbag that he's a victim when he's a predator for starters. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8.2.14    one month ago
Whining along with Scumbag that he's a victim when he's a predator for starters.

Pretty damn weak-sauce stuff.

I thought you could actually provide proof--as asked.

Should have known better!

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.2.16  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.13    one month ago

We've already found out that some republicans ignore facts and the truth for lies so why bother trying to prove anything to them

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.2.17  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @8.2.5    one month ago
He won fair and square, doesn't cheat

How hilarious 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

Maybe what's going to happen in the next election depends of who will be the Democratic candidate - What if it will be Bernie Sanders and I'm not so sure who would like him to be their leader.  The antisemitism cradled by the Democrats might have a minor effect, but who knows?  Wasn't it a straw that broke the camel's back?

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    2 months ago

Sure have a hard time imagining Democrats like AOC and Tlaib endorsing Bernie or anyone Jewish.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    2 months ago

I'm not so sure about that. The fact that he's openly pro-Palestinian would give them reason to support him to also try to establish that they are NOT antisemitic. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
9.2  Don Overton  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    one month ago

Democrats have never been anti semitic  that statement is just another lack of the republicans to not be truthful

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @9.2    one month ago
Democrats have never been anti semitic that statement is just another lack of the republicans to not be truthful

WOw. How could you forget all those Southern Democrats who became the KKK? They were pretty anti-Semetic--you can look it up!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
10  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    one month ago
Sure have a hard time imagining Democrats like AOC and Tlaib endorsing Bernie or anyone Jewish.

I look forward to you admitting how wrong you are when and if Bernie is the nominee.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
11  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago

Good to see that despite a 2 year investigation coming up with nothing that the left know how to recycle old tantrums.

 
 
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