SCHIFF WANTED OBAMA TO DECLASSIFY RUSSIA DOCS — IF TRUMP DOES IT, HE’S ‘UN-AMERICAN’

  
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SCHIFF WANTED OBAMA TO DECLASSIFY RUSSIA DOCS — IF TRUMP DOES IT, HE’S ‘UN-AMERICAN’
“President Obama can and must declassify as much as possible about Russia hacking our elections. Rest assured, Trump won’t,” Schiff’s 2016 tweet reads.

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Democratic California Rep. Adam Schiff said Thursday that President Donald Trump’s decision to declassify information related to the origins of the Russia probe was “un-American.” Just more than two years ago, however, Schiff called on then-President Barack Obama to declassify some of the very same information.

On the heels of Trump’s decision to give Barr wide latitude with regard to declassifying the pertinent information, Schiff tweeted, “While Trump stonewalls the public from learning the truth about his obstruction of justice, Trump and Barr conspire to weaponize law enforcement and classified information against their political enemies.
The coverup has entered a new and dangerous phase. This is un-American.”

But in December 2016, just a month prior to Trump’s inauguration, Schiff called on Obama to declassify as much information as possible, arguing that Trump would not allow it once he was in office. (RELATED: Trump Gives Attorney General Barr Power To Declassify Russia Probe Documents)

“President Obama can and must declassify as much as possible about Russia hacking our elections. Rest assured, Trump won’t,” Schiff’s 2016 tweet reads.



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Jasper2529
1  seeder  Jasper2529    3 weeks ago
Adam Schiff
@RepAdamSchiff
President Obama can and must declassify as much as possible about Russia hacking our elections. Rest assured, Trump won't.
Michael McFaul
@McFaul

In 2009, Obama declassified intel on Iran's nuclear program to alert world of threat. He can do the same now regarding Russian cyber threat

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @1    3 weeks ago

I think the all-caps in the article's title is the perfect way to introduce the hysterical nature of it.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
2  seeder  Jasper2529    3 weeks ago
Adam Schiff
@RepAdamSchiff
While Trump stonewalls the public from learning the truth about his obstruction of justice,

Trump and Barr conspire to weaponize law enforcement and classified information against their political enemies.

The coverup has entered a new and dangerous phase.

This is un-American.
 
 
 
Jasper2529
3  seeder  Jasper2529    3 weeks ago

Adam Schiff seems worried about something now.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    3 weeks ago
Adam Schiff seems worried about something now.

The entire Democrat party is terrified of what will be unearthed.  It will essentially be a top down indictment of the entire organization.

I'm waiting for the perp walks to begin in earnest.   They'll start with John Durhams findings and go from there.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1    3 weeks ago
It will essentially be a top down indictment of the entire organization.

it is even bigger than that.

Cheers :)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    3 weeks ago

He's petrified and may even know what's about to come out.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.2.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    3 weeks ago
He's petrified

As XD said in 3.1, so is the Dem Party.

and may even know what's about to come out.

If John Durham and everyone else do what they're supposed to do, it's pretty certain that many of us who have been following this from the beginning also know what's about to come out.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.1    3 weeks ago

The best part of this IS John Durham. Intelligence officials won't get a pass like Hillary got!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.2.3  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.2    3 weeks ago
The best part of this IS John Durham.

Indeed.

Intelligence officials won't get a pass like Hillary got!

And therein lies the fear within complicit Obama Administration officials, Democrats, and MSM. There's no way that anyone can deny that Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc have (again) ramped up their presence on their complicit, friendly networks and on social media. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.3    3 weeks ago

Thus far theyv'e all been able to publicly comment on Trump and the investigation, as political pundits! They thought they would get away with it!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.2.5  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    3 weeks ago
They thought they would get away with it!

If Hillary had won, all of them - from Obama down, would have gotten away with the biggest government coup in our history.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.2.6  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.5    3 weeks ago
If Hillary had won, all of them - from Obama down, 

if she had won, there would have been a military coup and they would have all went to gitmo.

this version of history is much better.  a military coup would not look good in our history books.

none of this would have been possible without military intelligence working behind the scenes.

admiral rogers is the real hero of this story. 

 

cheers :)

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.2.6    2 weeks ago

Thank you for the lead on Admiral Rogers. Surprised he isn't getting more coverage.

https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/05/a-quiet-hero-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-retires/

https://themarketswork.com/2018/04/05/the-uncovering-mike-rogers-investigation-section-702-fisa-abuse-the-fbi/

This is the part I like best. No attempt at a cover up going on here.

On November 19, 2016, theWashington Post reportedthe following:

The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.

The recommendation,delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter andDirector of National Intelligence James R. Clapper.

The story was reported on November 19, 2016, meaning the move to fire Rogers – which failed – originated sometime in mid-October 2016.Exactly when Director Rogers was preparing to present his findings to the FISA Court.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.2.8  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.7    2 weeks ago
Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper.

Interesting how Clapper's name keeps popping up whether about Russia or ISIS! From 2016:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/us/politics/obama-remove-nsa-leader-michael-rogers.html

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    3 weeks ago

Oh, yes.  Because this article really shows how Shitbag's supporters are perfectly calm and rational. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.3.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.3    3 weeks ago
Oh, yes.  Because this article really shows how Shitbag's supporters are perfectly calm and rational. 

Please try to be more polite when discussing the topic of this seed. His name is Schiff, not Shitbag.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    2 weeks ago
Adam Schiff seems worried about something now.

And your basis for absurd idea would be................

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.4.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.4    2 weeks ago

All one need do is compare Schiff's hypocritical 2016 and 2019 comments. Please focus on comments 1 and 2 to find the answer to your request. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
4  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

I can't stand "Uber Hypocrite" Adam Shifty Schiff ……. at all ! jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

He's the quintessential "I did, before I didn't ! piece of shit ! jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

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XDm9mm
4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  It Is ME @4    3 weeks ago

That picture looks like someone just shoved a broom stick up a certain place which is not where anything should go, (ok..  the only possible exception is when you're getting a prostate exam.)

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    3 weeks ago

He looks like a Preying Mantis ready to strike !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

He's trying to hypnotize us!

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
4.1.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

That's a great analogy, Itsy.  Those insects are well known for eliminating pests in the garden.  So, too, is Schiff, with the help of others, going to rid of the biggest pest in the garden of the republic:  El Shitbaggo del Mar-a-Lago.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.1.4    2 weeks ago
Those insects are well known for eliminating pests in the garden.

The Mantas has FAILED....for over 2 years !

 
 
 
JBB
4.1.6  JBB  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Schiff only became Chairman of The Judiciary Committee in January...

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.7  It Is ME  replied to  JBB @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

What does that have to do with him being on National TV spouting "I have", for almost 2 years ?

Schiff has defended the work of congressional investigations of Russia's meddling in the presidential election, as well as the probe of special counsel Robert Mueller, since it started.

His quote in March of 2017:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/schiff-more-circumstantial-evidence-trump-associates-colluded-russia-n737446

"I can tell you that the case is more than that and I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now."

"I don't want to get into specifics but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of an investigation."

Schifty Schiff STILL hasn't given any "Specifics" on what he's supposed to have had !

 
 
 
Jasper2529
4.1.8  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
Schiff only became Chairman of The Judiciary Committee in January...

That's irrelevant. Schiff has been flapping his gums about Trump/Russia "evidence" since 2016. See comment 1.

 
 
 
JBB
4.1.9  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Schiff is doing the job way better than that olde dumbass Nunes did...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
4.1.10  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @4.1.9    2 weeks ago
Schiff is doing the job way better than that olde dumbass Nunes did...

If Schiff had done as you claim, he would already have given his invisible collusion evidence to his congressional colleagues. Maybe Schiff's imaginary friend has it. LOL!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
4.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @4    2 weeks ago

We completely get why Schiff is this hour's (or minute's) favorite hate target.  He's determined to hold Shitbag's crimes up to public view.  And all these sweat and tears to prevent that are going to fail and fail miserably.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.2    2 weeks ago

Schiff has shown nothing to anyone, except his mouth flapping in the breeze !

Have you seen his "Paper" investigation yet ?

If so....show all of us !

 
 
 
Jasper2529
4.2.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.2    2 weeks ago
We completely get why Schiff is this hour's (or minute's) favorite hate target.

Please answer the following:

  1. Who are "we"?
  2. Who has stated that they hate Schiff?
 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.2    2 weeks ago

What are you, an English teacher or something?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
4.2.4  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.3    2 weeks ago
What are you, an English teacher or something?

What an odd question that has no relevance to comment 4.2.2 and the seeded article. Thanks for strolling through my seed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.4    2 weeks ago

You're welcome.  LOL

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
5  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉    3 weeks ago

Adam Schiff is a willing participant in the Russian Hoax disinformation campaign.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5    3 weeks ago
Adam Schiff is a willing participant in the Russian Hoax disinformation campaign.

Has he released all of that "clear evidence" he's said he has had for over 2 years yet? jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1    3 weeks ago
Has he released all of that "clear evidence" he's said he has had for over 2 years yet?

ummmmmm…..It was conveniently "Lost", or "STOLEN" I'll bet. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1    3 weeks ago
Has he released all of that "clear evidence" he's said he has had for over 2 years yet?

Why would Sciff need to release 'clear evidence' that is public knowledge? 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.3  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.1.2    3 weeks ago
Why would Sciff need to release 'clear evidence' that is public knowledge? 

Schiff repeatedly stated that he had "evidence" that no one else had. The only problem is that he never shared that "evidence" with Congress or anyone else. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.3    3 weeks ago
Schiff repeatedly stated that he had "evidence" that no one else had.

Multiple links please.

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
5.1.5  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  Dulay @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

Google "Adam Schiff says he has evidence of collusion."

You can't miss it.

256

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.3    3 weeks ago
Schiff repeatedly stated that he had "evidence" that no one else had.

On National TV , numerous times !

I'm still waiting for the "Irrefutable Evidence" he has too !

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.7  It Is ME  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

That's too HARD !

 
 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.9  Dulay  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

That's NOT how this shit works BF.

Jasper made an assertion and it is incumbent on her to support it. 

THAT'S how this shit works. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.10  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

I've found Duck Duck Go to be non-partisan and better than Google, which is left-wing and omits factual reporting.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.11  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.1.9    3 weeks ago
Jasper made an assertion and it is incumbent on her to support it. 

I did. See comment 5.1.8.  I hope that 6 sources are adequate. You can find more on your own if you wish.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.12  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.8    3 weeks ago
Here you go. In future, please consider using a search engine so you can do your own research.

You must have misunderstood what I requested links for because NONE of your links support your claim.

You stated:

Schiff repeatedly stated that he had "evidence" that no one else had.

So I'll make it as clear as I can. Please provide links to the 'repeated' times that Schiff stated that he had evidence that NO ONE ELSE HAD. 

BTW, two of your links have Schiff on video and in print listing multiple instances of collusion. ALL of those instances are documented. There are multiple instances of collusion documented in the Mueller report. You should READ it. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.11    3 weeks ago
You can find more on your own if you wish.

Please look for some that actually support your claim. I'll wait. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.14  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.6    3 weeks ago
On National TV , numerous times ! I'm still waiting for the "Irrefutable Evidence" he has too !

Oh, you mean on all of his NBC, MSNBC, and CNN (among others) appearances but NEVER FNC? Yeah, Schiff is a real clown

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.15  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.1.12    3 weeks ago

You specifically asked for multiple links, and I gave them to you. Don't like them? Too bad. Find your own.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.16  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.6    3 weeks ago
I'm still waiting for the "Irrefutable Evidence" he has too !

Schiff is a liar and attention whore, so I hope you're not holding your breath for him to release his "evidence", because I'm not! 

 
 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.18  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.15    3 weeks ago
You specifically asked for multiple links, and I gave them to you. Don't like them? Too bad. Find your own.

You specifically claimed that Schiff 'REPEATEDLY' stated that he had "evidence" that no one else had.

I presumed that supporting your claim would require MULTIPLE links. 

It isn't about me not liking your links, it's about them NOT supporting your claim. 

You made an assertion, it's on you to support it. 

Or you could just admit that you HAVE no proof of your claim because Schiff never said what you claim he said REPEATEDLY. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.19  It Is ME  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.16    3 weeks ago
so I hope you're not holding your breath for him

Heck NO !

That would be suicidal !

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.20  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.1.17    3 weeks ago

I stand corrected. Nice and safe that he appeared on one of FNC's Democrat-hosted shows. 

On October 11, 2006, The Washington Post reported that Wallace had been a registered Democrat for more than two decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wallace#Politics

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
5.1.21  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  Dulay @5.1.9    3 weeks ago
That's NOT how this shit works BF.

No one owes you a link.

Right click, open new window....googling Jasper's statement....

Try it try it and you'll see, you can google just like me.

I googled in a box, I googled with a Fox

I googled in the rain, I googled in a train

Googling is fun!

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.1.22  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @5.1.12    3 weeks ago
Schiff stated that he had evidence that NO ONE ELSE HAD

Back in March 2017, Schiff insisted he had evidence that was "more than circumstantial" but he refused to give details.

Schiff: There is now 'more than circumstantial evidence' of Trump-Russia collusion

“I can’t go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now”

Schiff refers to evidence that remains unidentified and apparently is so secret he can't share it with us. If it were public knowledge, he would be free to talk about it. 

Now, with the Mueller report available, he continues to insist that this evidence exists.

Schiff defiant: 'Undoubtedly, there is collusion'

“Undoubtedly, there is collusion,” Schiff told the Post. “We will continue to investigate the counterintelligence issues. That is, is the president or people around him compromised in any way by a hostile foreign power?" "It doesn’t appear that was any part of Mueller’s report," he continued.

So either he just thinks differently than the special counsel and his entire team or I guess it must be something no one else has. Here, again, Schiff references evidence that Mueller (and therefore the rest of us) have not seen. Or he's fishing for something he hasn't actually seen.

It sounds more like he is fishing based on a theory and not working from anything concrete. But since he has been singing this song for more than two years, you'd think he would have presented his leads or his theory of the case to the special counsel. It's clear he did not. So, it's also clear that he's full of shit.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.23  Dulay  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5.1.21    3 weeks ago
No one owes you a link.

Those that desire a good faith discussion or debate do. 

The rest can spew whatever the fuck they want with the consequence of lost credibility. 

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
5.1.24  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  Dulay @5.1.23    3 weeks ago

Okedokey.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.25  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.1.23    3 weeks ago

I've given you a lot of space to spew your harassment shit. Knock it off. Only warning.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.26  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.22    3 weeks ago
Schiff refers to evidence that remains unidentified and apparently is so secret he can't share it with us. If it were public knowledge, he would be free to talk about it. 

That's a lot of assumption on your part.

Oh and BTW, that was from 2 YEARS ago. A lot has been made public since that statement. 

Now, with the Mueller report available, he continues to insist that this evidence exists.

The evidence of collusion is in the Mueller report. As Schiff stated, NONE of the counterintelligence investigation is documented in the Mueller report.

So either he just thinks differently than the special counsel and his entire team or I guess it must be something no one else has. Here, again, Schiff references evidence that Mueller (and therefore the rest of us) have not seen. Or he's fishing for something he hasn't actually seen.

Schiff isn't 'fishing', he is subpoenaing.

Barr has come to an agreement with the Intel Committee to release the counterintelligence documentation. 

So either he just thinks differently than the special counsel and his entire team or I guess it must be something no one else has. Here, again, Schiff references evidence that Mueller (and therefore the rest of us) have not seen. Or he's fishing for something he hasn't actually seen.

The song that Schiff has been singing is supported by the Mueller report.

Here is a song that Schiff sang 2 months ago: 

Adam Schiff, speaking before the House Intelligence Committee meeting on March 28, 2019:

My colleagues might think it’s okay that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what’s described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign. You might think that’s okay. My colleagues might think it’s okay that when that was offered to the son of the president, who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI, he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help — no, instead that son said he would ‘love’ the help with the Russians.

You might think it was okay that he took that meeting. You might think it’s okay that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair, someone with great experience running campaigns, also took that meeting. You might think it’s okay that the president’s son-in-law also took that meeting. You might think it’s okay that they concealed it from the public. You might think it’s okay that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn’t better. You might think it’s okay. I don’t.

You might think it’s okay that, when it was discovered a year later that they had lied about that meeting and said it was about adoptions, you might think it’s okay that the president is reported to have helped dictate that lie. You might think it’s okay. I don’t.
You might think it’s okay that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness. You might think that’s okay. I don’t. You might think it’s okay that that campaign chairman offered polling data, campaign polling data, to someone linked to Russian intelligence. I don’t think that’s okay.

You might think it’s okay if that the president himself called on Russia to hack his opponent’s emails, if they were listening. You might think it’s okay that, later that day, the Russians in fact attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign. I don’t think that’s okay.

You might think that it’s okay that the president’s son-in-law sought to establish a secret back-channel of communication with Russians through a Russian diplomatic facility. I don’t think that’s okay.

You might think it’s okay that an associate of the president made direct contact with the GRU through Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks, that is considered a hostile intelligence agency. You might think it’s okay that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say, in terms of dirt on his opponent.

You might think it’s okay that the national security adviser-designate secretly conferred with a Russian ambassador about undermining U.S. sanctions, and you might think it’s okay he lied about it to the FBI.

You might say that’s all okay. You might say that’s just what you need to do to win. But I don’t think it’s okay. I think it’s immoral, I think it’s unethical, I think it’s unpatriotic and, yes, I think it’s corrupt, and evidence of collusion.

Now, I have always said that whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter. Whether the special counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt the proof of that crime was up to the special counsel and that I would accept his decision, and I do. He is a good an honorable man and he is a good prosecutor.

But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is okay. And the day we do think that’s okay is the day we will look back and say, that is the day America lost its way.

And I’ll tell you one more thing that is a propos of the hearing today. I don’t think it’s okay that during a presidential campaign Mr. Trump sought the Kremin’s help to consummate a real estate deal in Moscow that would make him a fortune. According to the special counsel, hundreds of millions of dollars. I don’t think it’s okay that he concealed it from the public. don't think it's okay he advocated a new and more favorable policy towards the Russians, even as he was seeking the Russian's help, the Kremlin’s help, to make money.

I don't think it's okay that his attorney lied to our committee. There is a different word for that than collusion and it's called compromise. And that's the subject of our hearing today.

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.1.27  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @5.1.26    3 weeks ago
That's a lot of assumption on your part.

There is not one assumption there. The part about Schiff not being able to talk about it came from his own lying lips. The connection that if it were public he could talk about it is common sense logic. No assumptions.

Oh and BTW, that was from 2 YEARS ago.

Yes, to show that he has done it repeatedly - as alleged.

A lot has been made public since that statement.

But none of it has been made public by Schiff. Nor, has he pointed to any public information and said "this is what I was talking about when I said there was evidence." So we still don't have any proof that he ever had any evidence.

The evidence of collusion is in the Mueller report.

The report makes clear that no one in the campaign coordinated with Russians to interfere with the election. Nothing illegal is detailed and no indictments were filed against any U.S. person related to interference with the election. That's what the investigation was supposed to be about. Trying to act now like "collusion" is a distinct thing anyone should be concerned about is utter bullshit. 

Schiff isn't 'fishing', he is subpoenaing.

One is not a logical alternative to the other. You can question people even though you don't have evidence of wrongdoing yet. That's what fishing is: casting about and hoping to find something.

Here is a song that Schiff sang 2 months ago:

If you think I am going to spend time reading that wall of text, your time is way less valuable than mine is. Make a more succinct argument if you expect me to pay attention to it.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.1.28  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

Why, thanks Jasper.  Your links to actual reputable news sources which validate the work that Schiff is doing is greatly appreciated. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.29  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.28    2 weeks ago

Only you would call it validation. Others would call it lying through his teeth to keep an investigation going to smear a sitting president.

Of course that is OK if Democrats do it. Just ask Harry Reid.

http://time.com/3765158/harry-reid-mitt-romney-no-taxes/

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid has no regrets with falsely accusing Mitt Romney of paying zero taxes for ten years during the 2012 presidential elections.

“So the word is out that he has not paid any taxes for ten years,” Reid said on the Senate floor in August 2012. “Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”

Under criticism and repeated denials by Romney, Reid later put out a statement backed by an “extremely credible source,” which turned out to be billionaire Jon Huntsman, Sr, the father of the former Utah governor and Romney rival, according toDouble Downby Mark Halperin and John Heilemann.PolitiFact rated Reid’s allegation “Pants on Fire.”

When asked about his comments ina new interview by CNN’s Dana Bash, Reid, who recently announced he would retire in 2017 after his term is up, rebuffed those who said his attacks were “McCarthyite.”

“Well, they can call it whatever they want,” Reid said. “Romney didn’t win, did he?”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/harry-reid-gives-shameful-response-to-his-attack-on-mitt-romneys-taxes_b_6999996?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE5S_X5ESUMcn7LLcouI8DywNBDmCuFQ7VNqZt6xo88dqmmGcamOsH_7GMkmd5QfLrt-Pbl0DnRQ67xT77u_btbE5YlohK78EU-ze1DkKjc4MAKr6Ogb9EvQ1hks3ffqF-uY_VWaSjDYd0aUTe6FGJtVymw3q6l8M2HII8mF3Clu

https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/harry-reid-dana-bash-interview/index.html

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.1.30  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.28    2 weeks ago
Your links to actual reputable news sources which validate the work that Schiff is doing is greatly appreciated. 

The links clearly prove that Schiff doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground ... but you're welcome!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.1.31  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.29    2 weeks ago

Wow, that's a classic rightwing double-play:  first you make a claim that you don't not even bother trying to back up and then switch to a completely different matter.  Smooooooth--I hardly noticed your blatant (and bungled)  attempt to runaway from the subject.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.1.32  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.1.30    2 weeks ago
The links clearly prove that Schiff doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground

Only if you ignore all the words in them and just substitute what your opinion of Schiff is.  I notice you don't even bother to cite one sentence from any of them that backs up your ridiculously bogus hyper-partisan conclusion.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5    3 weeks ago
Adam Schiff is a willing participant in the Russian Hoax disinformation campaign.

I want two things from Adam Schiff.

First, I want to see the EVIDENCE that he was claiming to have seen which proved President Trump was colluding with Russia.

Second, I want to see all the emails between him and his master Vlad telling Schiff exactly what to say.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.2.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2    3 weeks ago
Second, I want to see all the emails between him and his master Vlad telling Schiff exactly what to say.

Remember when Russians punked him? Hilarious!

https://theblacksphere.net/2018/02/adam-schiff-pranked-8-minute-call-russians/

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
5.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5    3 weeks ago

Aww Badfish … Schiff is just misunderstood, he did not mean to imply that the 'evidence' he spoke of was to be taken in a literal way, as if it actually existed...

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
6  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉    3 weeks ago

Adam Schiff's greatest contribution to America?

His investigative research with two Russian comedians.....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @6    3 weeks ago

What was her name?

Pussifer!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @6    3 weeks ago

This was one of the funniest things I've ever heard, and I couldn't believe that Schiff was stupid enough to fall for it. Even funnier was after the phone call, to save face, Schiff's office said that he knew all along and was just playing with the Russians.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @6    3 weeks ago

It's pretty obvious Schiff isn't buying this shit.  And since there's no evidence he ever took this seriously this is just more Putin-inspired bullshit being spread by our own domestic traitors.  And whenever a Dem gets this kind of treatment from these scumbags it's a sure sign they're scared shitless of him or her. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3    3 weeks ago

Shithead Schiff scares no one. What could he possibly do or say that would worry us?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.3.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3    3 weeks ago
It's pretty obvious Schiff isn't buying this shit.  And since there's no evidence he ever took this seriously

No? Then why did such a busy man like Schiff stay on the phone for 8 minutes and ask the caller to repeat names, etc? 

Keep trying!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.3.2    3 weeks ago
No? Then why did such a busy man like Schiff stay on the phone for 8 minutes and ask the caller to repeat names, etc? 

The question you should be asking yourself (but never will) is why Schiff never followed up on this obvious BS.    Much of the 8 minutes was spent in silence by Schiff who clearly started to smell the stench less than half way into the call.  And each of his successive questions were designed to draw these Russian goons to make grander claims of knowledge and high-ranking connections.   

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
6.3.4  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3    3 weeks ago

I even heard Pelosi accused Trump of a cover up for declassifying these documents.  Transparency is now the new enemy of the people.  We'll see how long that lasts.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Freedom Warrior @6.3.4    3 weeks ago

I was about to take issue with those comments but soon realized that not a single sentence made any sense.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.3.6  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3.3    3 weeks ago
The question you should be asking yourself (but never will) is why Schiff never followed up on this obvious BS

Schiff most certainly did follow up on that phone call. Perhaps you aren't aware of the fact  that Schiff had his aide, Rheanne Wirkkala, correspond via email with the people who phoned him. Happy reading!

Here's a sample:

So, one might ask, why did Schiff spend over seven minutes on the call, and why did his staff spend time following up?

“I understand Mr. Schiff had a productive call with Mr. Parubiy, and that Mr. Parubiy would like to make some material available to Mr. Schiff through your embassy,” Schiff aide Rheanne Wirkkala wrote in an April 4, 2017 email to the pranksters.  “Please let me know how best to arrange pick-up of those materials from your Embassy in Washington, D.C.,” the email added.

“Do you know when we might be able to meet your colleagues at the Ukrainian embassy here in Washington, DC to pick up materials?” the aide asked a day later in another email, the Daily Mail said.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/22/adam-schiff-180-ethics-stolen-info-political-foes/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5355713/Adam-Schiff-spoofed-Russian-claim-nude-Trump-pic.html#ixzz56Nz1clRV

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.3.6    3 weeks ago
“Do you know when we might be able to meet your colleagues at the Ukrainian embassy here in Washington, DC to pick up materials?” the aide asked a day later in another email, the Daily Mail said.

You obviously didn't see that for what it was:  calling the bluff of these Russian stooges.  Of course, that would have been the last that was heard from them.  The massive gullibility of self-proclaimed hard-nosed rightwingers is always astonishing. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.3.8  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3.7    3 weeks ago
You obviously didn't see that for what it was:  calling the bluff of these Russian stooges.  Of course, that would have been the last that was heard from them.  The massive gullibility of self-proclaimed hard-nosed rightwingers is always astonishing. 

So, according to you, Schiff and his staff knowingly colluded with Russians. Good to know!

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.3.9  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.3.7    3 weeks ago

Right.

Rather than call them out for the whole world to hear on the air; wait a day or two and send a couple of follow up emails begging them on when and where they can retrieve the information.

Schiff really showed them both! jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3.10  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Greg Jones @6.3.1    2 weeks ago
Shithead Schiff scares no one. What could he possibly do or say that would worry us?

Oh, so your vicious and venomous attacks on him and lies about him have nothing to do with his going after Shitbag and all his little shitbag criminals.  How you can imagine we can't see right through is an amazing testament to the commitment to pure ideology, and fukk the facts.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    3 weeks ago

Here's where you slipped up, Jasper:

But in December 2016, just a month prior to Trump’s inauguration,Schiff called on Obama to declassify as much information as possible,

What Shitbag is ordering Barr to do is now is reveal whatever's necessary and only that which will corrupt the public perception of the the proper investigation of the collusion between Shitbag's campaign and Russian government intrusion into the election.  But, let's also remind everyone here that Shitbaggers themselves were attacking (and still do it every other week or so) the Obama admin. for not doing just that during the campaign--which, of course they would have massive head explosions if that had been done at the time.  So this game you lot keep playing of blaming the Obama DoJ for not doing enough then out of one side of your mouths and accusing it of unlawfully investigating Shitbag out of the other is really old and such an obvious "tell" about how even you people know Shitbag was dirty then and dirtier now.  The desperation of trying to help cover up the crimes verily screams out of all  your comments. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7    3 weeks ago

I guess you will keep denying the evidence as it starts dribbling and leaking out until the left wing bad actors start receiving indictments. If the Obama DOJ suspected Russian involvement in Trump's campaign, they should have spoken up to the public, and also warned Trump.

Why didn't they??   Now we are starting to find out why. Everything Barr is doing is following the law to get to the truth. The same can't be said of the previous administration.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    3 weeks ago
I guess you will keep denying the evidence as it starts dribbling and leaking out until the left wing bad actors start receiving indictments.

So will the investigate those leaks too? 

If the Obama DOJ suspected Russian involvement in Trump's campaign, they should have spoken up to the public, and also warned Trump.

He DID. Sheesh one would have to live under a rock not to know that. 

Why didn't they??  

Again, they DID. 

Now we are starting to find out why. Everything Barr is doing is following the law to get to the truth. 

If everything Barr does follows the law, it could take him YEARS to get to the truth. Even with Trump giving him broad and sweeping authorities, Barr is still required to follow EO 13526, section 3.1 a and d. Coats has already indicated that he'll be releasing 'appropriate' information to Barr. 

The same can't be said of the previous administration.

I'll ask for the umpteenth time. What laws do you allege that the previous administration violated? Please cite the code or statute. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Dulay @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

It'll start making sense to you as we get closer to the election and Barr's investigation broadens and deepens.

I'm sure Durham will follow every breadcrumb to its source loaf.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.1.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dulay @7.1.1    3 weeks ago
What laws do you allege that the previous administration violated?

fabricating evidence / using the the fbi, cia, doj, and illegally obtained FISA warrants to take down a sitting president is very illegal.  in fact, they call that treason for a reason.

I hope obama represents himself in court... LOL

 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    3 weeks ago
It'll start making sense to you as we get closer to the election and Barr's investigation broadens and deepens.

You made an assertion that you failed to support. 

I'm sure Durham will follow every breadcrumb to its source loaf.

What happened to the Huber investigation that's been going on for over a year? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @7.1.4    3 weeks ago
I'm sure Durham will follow every breadcrumb to its source loaf.
What happened to the Huber investigation that's been going on for over a year? 

If you're not aware, Huber and Durham are two distinct individuals with distinctly different mandates.

And as the left was fond of saying for TWO years, we'll need to wait for the (Mueller) report to come out.  Oh, but wait, per the left the Mueller report was a foregone conclusion of treasonous activity and collusion with Russian adversaries.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.6  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @7.1.3    3 weeks ago
fabricating evidence

What evidence is that? 

/ using the the fbi, cia, doj,  

Wow, that's quite a litany of alphabet agencies.

How about your cite a code or statute that each one violated. 

and illegally obtained FISA warrants

You DO realize that 3 out of the 4 FISA warrants were authorized under the Trump DOJ right? 

You DO realize that each of the 4 FISA warrants were authorized by a different Federal Judge right?

Y'all insist that ALL 4 of those Judges were hoodwinked by the 'deep state' right? 

So when will y'all call for Roberts to investigate and deal with those 4 Judges?

I mean, after all, Roberts is responsible for them being on the FISC. Should we demand that those Judges be removed or should we prosecute them too? They may have been complicit right? Or do y'all think that the 'deep state' doesn't slither into the Judiciary? 

to take down a sitting president is very illegal.

A president was 'taken down'? When? 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.7  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1.5    3 weeks ago
If you're not aware, Huber and Durham are two distinct individuals with distinctly different mandates.

Why yes XD, I AM aware that they are two distinct individuals, that's why I named Huber INDIVIDUALLY. 

As for their mandates, Durham is to 'investigate the investigators" and Huber is to investigate 'the prosecutorial and investigative determinations made by the DOJ in 2016 and 2017'. 

Sounds like pretty much that same thing to me.

Huber has been at it for over a year and not a peep out to him, despite the AG getting 'regular updates'.

Since Huber received such high praise, I would presume that Sessions, Whitaker or Barr would have mentioned Huber's recommendation opening further investigations if such a recommendation had occurred and that Huber wouldn't wait to finish his report to do so. Since no recommendations have been forthcoming, it looks pretty clear that the ones that have been opened by Barr are politically motivated.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @7.1.3    3 weeks ago

You got bupkis, as usual.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.1.9  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dulay @7.1.6    3 weeks ago

You DO realize that 3 out of the 4 FISA warrants were authorized under the Trump DOJ right? 

that means nothing.  the fisa court does not ask the doj if it can issue warrants... LOL

A president was 'taken down'? When? 

like robbing a bank, just trying is still illegal. but watching the left fail? totally priceless.

So when will y'all call for Roberts to investigate and deal with those 4 Judges?

in progress...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lindsey-graham-will-ask-john-roberts-to-investigate-fisa-court-misconduct

but seriously... whats the rush?  everything will come out before the next election.

  we have plenty of time.

cheers :)

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.10  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @7.1.9    3 weeks ago
that means nothing.  the fisa court does not ask the doj if it can issue warrants... LOL

Who the fuck do you think applies for the FISA warrants? Can you really be that uninformed? 

like robbing a bank, just trying is still illegal. but watching the left fail? totally priceless.

Great! Then cite who TRIED to take down Trump. Please give details...

in progress...

It's been almost a month since Graham SAID he'd do that. NOTHING, NADA...you must be proud. 

but seriously... whats the rush? everything will come out before the next election.
we have plenty of time.

Well gee, y'all have had your hair on fire about abuse of the FISC and now you think that there is all the time in the world to address the issue you used to set the fire. Page will not be pleased with all your foot dragging. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
7.2  KDMichigan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7    3 weeks ago
reveal whatever's necessary and only that which will corrupt the public perception

Isn't that kind of what the left has been doing for the last 2 years? Are they still going to cry about his tax returns in 2023?

The rest that you said. I'm overwhelmed, nice rant.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8  seeder  Jasper2529    3 weeks ago
Here's where you slipped up, Jasper:

No slip up.

as much information as possible,

--------------------------------

In a memorandum to his seven cabinet directors and the Attorney General, Trump asked that officials cooperate with Barr’s investigation and authorized Barr to declassify any information about the investigation into his campaign that he deemed necessary, provided that he consulted with the agency responsible.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/23/donald-trump-orders-intelligence-community-to-cooperate-with-surveillance-investigation/

Good try though. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @8    3 weeks ago
Good try though. 

Using a sewer like Breitbart was, again, a poor move.  I realize it's all you've got but it comes to less than nothing.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8.1.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8.1    3 weeks ago
Using a sewer like Breitbart was, again, a poor move.  I realize it's all you've got but it comes to less than nothing.  

So, you're claiming that Sarah Sanders' statement is untrue simply because Breitbart used it. That's funny!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @8.1.1    2 weeks ago

I'm saying using one pathologically lying source to try to back up another one just tells us that you really don't realize how fukking awful a case you make.  Hilariously fukking awful, to be sure, but still fukking awful.  And you can't even cite legit sources accurately.  Those links that you hoped would throw shade on Schiff (no charge for the alliteration) did nothing of the sort.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
9  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

The only thing "un-American" is how full of shit hypocritical Adam Schiff will say anything, attack anyone, if he thinks it benefits him politically. He's a dick.

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
10  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉    3 weeks ago

Adam Schiff is captain of the soy boy club and a founding member of the moonbat tinfoil hat brigade.

People that admire moonbats are total lunatics. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
10.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @10    3 weeks ago

I myself am still stuck on Avenatti.

original

 
 
 
Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉
10.1.1  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  KDMichigan @10.1    3 weeks ago

Is that Joe Dirt interviewing Avenetti?

 
 
 
bugsy
10.1.2  bugsy  replied to  KDMichigan @10.1    3 weeks ago

I think I have an Avenatti stuck on the bottom of my shoe.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
10.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  KDMichigan @10.1    3 weeks ago
I myself am still stuck on Avenatti.

Thanks for admitting that.  Everyone on my side moved on months ago from him.  But when you're desperate and think you've got a nut of course it's hard to let go.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
10.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10.1.3    3 weeks ago

Onto the next left loon that thinks they can take down Trump.

So many to choose from, how will the left ever decide which one to give "15 minutes of fame" to next?

Trump seems to be the king maker for both parties now.

 
 
 
bugsy
11  bugsy    3 weeks ago

What I have noticed is that these liberal idiots have ramped up their call for Trump's impeachment right after Barr testified that he was looking into spying into the Trump campaign, then administration. As many of you have said, they are seriously worried, including Schiff, that the truth is about to come out on them.

They know the democratic party, and the far left wing radical arm of that party, is about to come down. There is no stopping it now.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.1  KDMichigan  replied to  bugsy @11    3 weeks ago
they are seriously worried, including Schiff, that the truth is about to come out on them.

I doubt anything will come of it. They are all politicians. 

 
 
 
bugsy
11.1.1  bugsy  replied to  KDMichigan @11.1    3 weeks ago

You are probably right when it comes to criminal charges, but politically, many of them will probably kiss their sweet jobs as congressmen or Senators goodbye. To many of them, that is worst than a criminal charge.

Power is everything to the liberal base.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
11.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  bugsy @11.1.1    3 weeks ago
Power is everything to the liberal base.

This from the party that prevented a president from nominating a supreme court justice based on nothing whatsoever but the raw abuse of power. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
11.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @11.1.2    3 weeks ago

No one prevented Obama from nominating a Supreme Court Justice. Obama nominated Merrick Garland; the Senate controlled by Republicans chose never to confirm him- wanting to wait until after the federal elections.

It is called the Biden Rule. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/us/politics/joe-biden-argued-for-delaying-supreme-court-picks-in-1992.html

As a senator more than two decades ago, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. argued that President George Bush should delay filling a Supreme Court vacancy, should one arise, until the presidential election was over, and that it was “essential” that the Senate refuse to confirm a nominee to the court until then.

But in aspeech on the Senate floorin June 1992, Mr. Biden, then the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said there should be a different standard for a Supreme Court vacancy “that would occur in the full throes of an election year.” The president should follow the example of “a majority of his predecessors” and delay naming a replacement, Mr. Biden said. If he goes forward before then, the Senate should wait to consider the nomination.

“Some will criticize such a decision and say that it was nothing more than an attempt to save a seat on the court in hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it, but that would not be our intention,” Mr. Biden said at the time. “It would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is underway, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over.

“That is what is fair to the nominee and essential to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me,” he added, “we will be in deep trouble as an institution.”

Seems the left only thinks this type of thing should occur when a Republican occupies the WH.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
11.1.4  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @11.1.2    3 weeks ago
This from the party that prevented a president from nominating a supreme court justice based on nothing whatsoever but the raw abuse of power. 

This seed is about Adam Schiff and his hypocrisy, so do not derail it with sour grape comments about a SCOTUS nominee.

 
 
 
Texan1211
11.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @11.1.2    3 weeks ago
This from the party that prevented a president from nominating a supreme court justice based on nothing whatsoever but the raw abuse of power.

That is blatantly false. No one prevented anyone from being nominated.

Link THAT, please, since you claim it.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
11.1.6  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.5    3 weeks ago

NO. Please do not derail this seed with SCOTUS stuff. Thanks.

 
 
 
lib50
12  lib50    3 weeks ago

You all think you are talking about liberals, but I read it and know its all the things Trump and the gop are.  Total projection, but good insight about what the right is doing.  We see Trump do it all the time too. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
12.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  lib50 @12    3 weeks ago

The projection from the right, always ever strong, is into hysteria territory today.  I see it as the trapped animal response. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
12.1.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @12.1    3 weeks ago
The projection from the right, always ever strong, is into hysteria territory today.  I see it as the trapped animal response. 

What "projection" might that be? Do you claim that Schiff's 2016 and 2019 comments are not true? If so, please state why and provide documented evidence.

 
 
 
arkpdx
13  arkpdx    3 weeks ago
Total projection

Oops!  The left got caught again! That is their favorite phrase to used when they are guilty! 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
13.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  arkpdx @13    3 weeks ago
The left got caught again!

It is so hilarious to read comments like this every time a new Shitbag crime gets revealed.  It must be some kind of spinal reflex.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1    3 weeks ago

All of those "crimes"; and yet no impeachment or prosecution. What the hell are the Dems waiting for?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
13.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Ronin2 @13.1.1    3 weeks ago
All of those "crimes"; and yet no impeachment or prosecution.

Yet.   You people are always so impatient.  "What's taking Mueller so long?!?!?!"  And, then it happens and the shit hits the fan and you then shift to "This Mueller Report Should Never Have Happened.  WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

 
 
 
KDMichigan
13.1.3  KDMichigan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.2    3 weeks ago

Hurry up. Get them new talking points …..

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
13.1.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  KDMichigan @13.1.3    3 weeks ago
Get them new talking points …..

Don't need anything new.  This one will do just fine:

At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
Vol. II, p. 8; Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The

2016 Presidential Election

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.2    3 weeks ago

The Mueller report didn't do anything but waste tax payer money.  You had your investigation by an elite team of Hillary and Obama sycophants; they didn't find evidence to convict. The Establishment hack heir Mueller wrote a report not based on evidence (or lack thereof); he didn't follow the law at all; but left it open for the Dems in the House. Starr at least made a recommendation to Congress to proceed with impeachment proceedings- heir Mueller wouldn't, and couldn't with the evidence he provided. 

Unlike the left, we don't like it when branches of the federal government are turned into weapons and used against US citizens. That includes a complete and utter ass like Trump.

What are you so afraid of? Finding out the FISA warrants were illegal and the whole Mueller report was based on a lie?

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

It bears repeating. Heir Mueller is chicken shit. 

You need a crime to obstruct justice; (otherwise Obama would have been impeached for Fast and Furious) but heir Mueller and Co already struck out on the Russian collusion garbage.

He got what he wanted. The hard left Dems in the House and their rabid followers foaming at the mouth to impeach. When they do, and it fails in the Senate he can say I tried. Then when it comes out the FISA warrants are full of shit; and illegally obtained, he can say I never told them to impeach!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
13.1.7  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Ronin2 @13.1.5    3 weeks ago
What are you so afraid of? Finding out the FISA warrants were illegal and the whole Mueller report was based on a lie?

Ka-BOOM.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
13.1.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Ronin2 @13.1.5    3 weeks ago
The Mueller report didn't do anything but waste tax payer money.

In your wildest wish-filled fantasies only.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.8    2 weeks ago

What did it prove? 

Are the Dems starting impeachment proceedings against Trump?  No, they are starting more BS investigations convinced that Mueller missed something, as the chicken shit wouldn't draw any conclusions. Like the House has near the power that Mueller wielded as a special counsel; and could uncover anything further./S

The Republicans are starting investigations into the legality of the FISA warrants; because Mueller didn't turn up shit. Neither Comey, nor Mueller, even bothered to question Carter Page much the less charge him with anything. Page, the master spy that the FBI and CIA knew about for years, and did work for both as an informant. Seems they would have wanted to get Page first and foremost; as he should have the most information. Of course you would have to believe the discredited Steele Dossier to do that; which was paid for by the DNC, and never should have been used in obtaining the FISA warrants.

Guess you like the US more divided than ever? That is the only thing the Mueller report accomplished. The Establishment is loving this; their grip on power has never been more secure.

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.1.10  Sunshine  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.4    2 weeks ago
Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

Exonerate him of what? The crime that Mueller can't conclude from his own report?

Read it very slowly and think about every word, perhaps the light bulb will come one.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
13.1.11  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1.4    2 weeks ago
Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

It's interesting that Mueller used the word "exonerate" in his report.

Lawyers and anyone who has ever served on a grand jury knows that a prosecutor (in this case Mueller) cannot "exonerate" someone of a crime. That responsibility rests upon judges and/or petit jury panels.

A prosecutor can either indict or not indict based upon the grand jury's decision of True Bill or No True Bill.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
13.1.12  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @13.1.10    2 weeks ago
Exonerate him of what? The crime that Mueller can't conclude from his own report?

Mueller didn't have authority to exonerate Trump. That's what is so unethical and inaccurate about that sentence in the report.

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.1.13  Sunshine  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1.12    2 weeks ago
That's what is so unethical and inaccurate about that sentence in the report.

He couldn't conclude that a crime was committed to exonerate Trump from. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

All of his twisted wording just made him look like a fool and an unethical lawyer.

He should be barred.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
13.1.14  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @13.1.13    2 weeks ago
All of his twisted wording just made him look like a fool and an unethical lawyer.

Some claim that Mueller's twisted wording opened the Dems' gateway to impeachment proceedings. Time will tell.

Speaking of unethical lawyers ... has Adam Schiff produced his "evidence" yet?  jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.1.15  Sunshine  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1.14    2 weeks ago
has Adam Schiff produced his "evidence" yet?

How many people fell for the lying?  And people try to tell me there is no such thing as TDS! jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
13.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1.12    2 weeks ago
Mueller didn't have authority to exonerate Trump.

So Mueller's exoneration of Trump on conspiracy is null and void. Got ya...

 
 
 
Raven Wing
13.1.17  Raven Wing  replied to  Dulay @13.1.16    2 weeks ago

Mueller actually left the door open for other forms of legal proceedings against Trump, as this position does not allow him to do to a sitting President. And that is what some people choose to over look. And the Repubs readily deny. 

And while the fat man may keep talking, the Fat Lady has not sung yet. 

JMOO

 
 
 
Jasper2529
13.1.18  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @13.1.16    2 weeks ago

As a prosecutor, Mueller never had authority to exonerate Trump and should never have used that word in his report, especially since he found no crime.

I posted a comment about prosecutors, grand juries, etc. Please read it ... or not. Your choice.

Period.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
14  The Magic Eight Ball    3 weeks ago
 Trump’s decision to declassify information related to the origins of the Russia probe was “un-American.”

because our legal system operates in the dark?   LOL  too funny,

 shiff must be some kind of communist wannabe douche bag.

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
14.1  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @14    3 weeks ago

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