Transcipt shows Trump prodded Ukraine leader to help in Biden probe

  
Via:  kdmichigan  •  4 weeks ago  •  240 comments

Transcipt shows Trump prodded Ukraine leader to help in Biden probe
"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that," Trump said to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

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WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has launched a formal impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, yielding to mounting pressure from fellow Democrats and plunging a deeply divided nation into an election year clash between Congress and the commander in chief.
The probe focuses partly on whether Trump abused his presidential powers and sought help from a foreign government to undermine Democratic foe Joe Biden and help his own reelection effort. Pelosi said Tuesday such actions would mark a "betrayal of his oath of office" and declared, "No one is above the law."
The impeachment inquiry, after months of investigations by House Democrats of the Trump administration, sets up the party's most direct and consequential confrontation with the Republican president, injects deep uncertainty into the 2020 election campaign and tests anew the nation's constitutional system of checks and balances.
Trump, who thrives on combat, has all but dared Democrats to take this step, confident that the specter of impeachment led by the opposition party will bolster rather than diminish his political support.
"There has been no President in the history of our Country who has been treated so badly as I have," he tweeted Wednesday from New York, where he has spent the week meeting with world leaders participating in the annual U.N. General Assembly. "The Democrats are frozen with hatred and fear. They get nothing done. This should never be allowed to happen to another President. Witch Hunt!
While Pelosi's announcement adds weight to the work being done on the oversight committees, the next steps are likely to resemble the past several months of hearings and legal battles — except with the possibility of actual impeachment votes.
Her brief statement, delivered without dramatic flourish but in the framework of a constitutional crisis, capped a frenetic weeklong stretch on Capitol Hill as details of a classified whistleblower complaint about Trump burst into the open and momentum shifted toward an impeachment probe.
For months, the Democratic leader has tried calming the push for impeachment, saying the House must investigate the facts and let the public decide. The new drive was led by a group of moderate Democratic lawmakers from political swing districts, many of them with national security backgrounds and serving in Congress for the first time. The freshmen, who largely represent districts previously held by Republicans where Trump is popular, risk their own reelections but say they could no longer stand idle. Amplifying their call were longtime leaders, including Rep. John Lewis of Georgia, the civil rights icon often considered the conscience of House Democrats.
"Now is the time to act," said Lewis, in an address to the House. "To delay or to do otherwise would betray the foundation of our democracy."
At issue are Trump's actions with Ukraine. In a summer phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, he is said to have asked for help investigating former Vice President Biden and his son Hunter. In the days before the call, Trump ordered advisers to freeze $400 million in military aid for Ukraine — prompting speculation that he was holding out the money as leverage for information on the Bidens. Trump has denied that charge, but acknowledged he blocked the funds, later released.

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KDMichigan
1  seeder  KDMichigan    4 weeks ago

Eager to hear the spin and sputter. No Threats, No collusion, plenty of liberal tears.

Full transcript here. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-transcript.html?module=inline

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  KDMichigan @1    4 weeks ago

No quid pro quo, Biden not mentioned 8 times and as a matter of fact it's Biden's son that gets mentioned. The President simply asked the Ukranian government to aid a US investigation. We all now know more that the "whistleblower" who got his info second hand and proclaimed that there WAS a quid pro quo.  The dems own it now.

Will Pelosi actually let the House vote on impeachment?  Or will she wait to see how the American people feel about it?   A lot of House democrats political lives will be on the line!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago
Will Pelosi actually let the House vote on impeachment?

I personally want them to vote. I want them to spend the next 14 months chasing their tails.

 
 
 
Snuffy
1.1.2  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago

Pelosi should schedule a vote basically because it's the right thing to do. One should never move for impeachment or reject impeachment because of a popularity poll,  it should only be done because it's the right decision to make.

If reporting shows that she holds off on a vote due to polling, then it proves this is only a political ploy (like I believe it is).

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.1.3  tomwcraig  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago

Actually, Trump asked the Ukrainian President to assist in investigating two cases:

1) The Russian collusion and hacking investigation as the server where everything started was supposedly a Ukrainian server.

2) Hunter Biden's potential corruption in regards to the Ukrainian company he was a part of and the actions taken to protect him from prosecution.

Those two cases are both criminal investigations and the first being the so-called original basis for impeaching Trump and the second being the current reason for impeaching Trump, but was actually criminal conduct according to Ukrainian law and exacerbated by Joe Biden being recorded PROUDLY bragging that he threatened to withhold $1 billion in US aid IF the prosecutor was not fired.  That is extortion and is criminal in and of itself.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.3    4 weeks ago
That is extortion and is criminal in and of itself.

Only if Trump does it!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

Chasing tail is more of a Trump thing.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.6  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
1) The Russian collusion and hacking investigation as the server where everything started was supposedly a Ukrainian server.

Is that what you think Trump said in the … parts of the Memo? Because Trump doesn't say ANY of what you claim. 

2) Hunter Biden's potential corruption in regards to the Ukrainian company he was a part of and the actions taken to protect him from prosecution.

For which there is ZERO evidence. 

Those two cases are both criminal investigations and the first being the so-called original basis for impeaching Trump

The first doesn't have shit to do with Trump. 

and the second being the current reason for impeaching Trump, but was actually criminal conduct according to Ukrainian law and exacerbated by Joe Biden being recorded PROUDLY bragging that he threatened to withhold $1 billion in US aid IF the prosecutor was not fired.  That is extortion and is criminal in and of itself.

It may behoove you to review the FACT that the Prosecutor General of Ukraine DID investigate the Ukrainian company which Hunter Biden was a board member. They exonerated the company and the owner. 

Or you can just keep spewing pabulum. 

BTFW, when did it become kosher for the US government to instigate an investigation into an American citizen for an alleged crime overseas, by a foreign nation? 

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.7  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    3 weeks ago

You should really read something instead of just the back of your hand

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.1.8  tomwcraig  replied to  Dulay @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Which memo are you reading from?  I got it originally from MSN and then posted a link to the version on Scribd and the conversation is exactly as I stated.  You do remember that Ars Technica posted an article about how the DNC emails were hacked and that the code originated from the Ukraine, correct?  And, you remember that after Trump publicly asked the Russians to release the emails the Russian collusion accusations started, correct?  Therefore, the Ukrainian server is what started the entire Russian collusion narrative.  Crowdstrike was the company that said that the hackers were Russian and were the only ones to actually look at the DNC servers that were actually hacked.

You must have missed the entire campaign and the impeachment calls after the Mueller report about Russian collusion, if you believe that the DNC email hack had nothing to do with Trump since they were the original impetus for the Russian collusion narrative.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.9  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.8    3 weeks ago
Which memo are you reading from?  I got it originally from MSN and then posted a link to the version on Scribd and the conversation is exactly as I stated. 

That's the one I read. So now, WHY are you babbling and asking me questions about some article, that you haven't linked? 

Can it be that you want to deflect from the FACTS before us in black and white. Address the fucking topic. 

You must have missed the entire campaign and the impeachment calls after the Mueller report about Russian collusion, if you believe that the DNC email hack had nothing to do with Trump since they were the original impetus for the Russian collusion narrative.

The cheese has slipped off the cracker of your posit tom..

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  KDMichigan @1    4 weeks ago
Eager to hear the spin and sputter. No Threats, No collusion, plenty of liberal tears. Full transcript here. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-transcript.html?module=inline

Where is the whistle blower's report?  I'd like to compare it to Trump's "edited" transcript.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    4 weeks ago

You may want to think that over for a few minutes. You do realize that the "whistleblower" filed over second and third hand supposed "knowledge" right?

And edited?

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Ozzwald
1.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    4 weeks ago
You may want to think that over for a few minutes. You do realize that the "whistleblower" filed over second and third hand supposed "knowledge" right?

Nope, and neither do you.  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

If the report isn't damaging, why is the Trump administration refusing to release?  By law it was supposed to be released to Congress no more than 2 weeks after the IG passed it on.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.2    4 weeks ago

" Nope, and neither do you."

Let me help you out here.................oh and you may want to have towel handy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7491335/Whistleblower-DID-NOT-actually-hear-Trump-Ukraine-call.html

An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.”"

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

The Daily Mail?  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif   The UK's version of the National Enquirer?

The Washington Examiner?  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif   Another tabloid for the 'right'

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    4 weeks ago

jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif      Shoot that messenger.....................jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
jungkonservativ111
1.2.6  jungkonservativ111  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.2    4 weeks ago

Being able to have confidential conversations with foreign leaders is crucial to a president having success globally. If you begin turning over transcripts of conversations like this that make it into the media it makes it so foreign leaders will not want to communicate as openly. My question is if Biden has nothing to hide than why would he be concerned about Trump asking for him to be looked into?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.7  Ozzwald  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @1.2.6    4 weeks ago
Being able to have confidential conversations with foreign leaders is crucial to a president having success globally.

Bullshit!

If you begin turning over transcripts of conversations like this that make it into the media it makes it so foreign leaders will not want to communicate as openly.

More bullshit. 

Knowing that their conversation is on the record makes them understand that their remarks are also on the record, and as such their lies are and promises are on the record.

My question is if Biden has nothing to hide than why would he be concerned about Trump asking for him to be looked into?

And right over your head...

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Freedom Warrior
1.2.8  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    4 weeks ago

 I’m sure he just wants to expose the whistleblowers lies 

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.2.9  tomwcraig  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.7    4 weeks ago
My question is if Biden has nothing to hide than why would he be concerned about Trump asking for him to be looked into?
And right over your head...

Actually, you mean right over your own head, Ozzwald.  Remember, Joe Biden is on video PROUDLY bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor looking into the company that Hunter Biden was on the board of.  That is actually criminal conduct and abuse of power by Joe Biden while he was Vice President of the United States.

 
 
 
dennis smith
1.2.10  dennis smith  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.5    4 weeks ago

Typical response from the left is to do exactly that...........SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @1.2.6    4 weeks ago
My question is if Biden has nothing to hide than why would he be concerned about Trump asking for him to be looked into?

I know you're not kidding, which is the disturbing thing about you're comment. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.12  Ozzwald  replied to  tomwcraig @1.2.9    4 weeks ago
Remember, Joe Biden is on video PROUDLY bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor looking into the company that Hunter Biden was on the board of.

2 things about your claim.

1-The investigation had been over for more than a year when the prosecutor was fired.

2-Biden story =  squirrel.png?w=1080

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.13  Dulay  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @1.2.6    3 weeks ago
My question is if Biden has nothing to hide than why would he be concerned about Trump asking for him to be looked into?

I've asked this question over and over with no reply:

When did it become kosher for the US government to instigate an investigation into an American citizen for an alleged crime overseas, by a foreign nation?

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.14  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @1.2.9    3 weeks ago
Remember, Joe Biden is on video PROUDLY bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor looking into the company that Hunter Biden was on the board of. 

That has been debunked so many times that it amazes me some are still disseminating that bullshit. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.2.15  Don Overton  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.10    3 weeks ago

Typical attempt to change the subject from Trumett butt huggers

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.2.16  tomwcraig  replied to  Dulay @1.2.14    3 weeks ago

So the video of Biden saying "I told them that if the prosecutor wasn't fired you won't get the billion and phbbt...he was gone." is all a lie, or do you think it was Darci Lynne Farmer saying that instead?  Remember the video was from Biden talking at an event by Foreign Affairs in 2018 and it was posted in comments in another article that you are participating in so I shouldn't have to post that video here.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Dulay @1.2.14    3 weeks ago
That has been debunked so many times that it amazes me some are still disseminating that bullshit.

Does it really amaze or surprise you?  From the same group that is STILL talking about Benghazi and Hillary's emails?

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.18  Dulay  replied to  tomwcraig @1.2.16    3 weeks ago
So the video of Biden saying "I told them that if the prosecutor wasn't fired you won't get the billion and phbbt...he was gone." is all a lie, or do you think it was Darci Lynne Farmer saying that instead? 

If you're going to try to make a point by quoting someone, quote them ACCURATELY. 

Remember the video was from Biden talking at an event by Foreign Affairs in 2018 and it was posted in comments in another article that you are participating in so I shouldn't have to post that video here.

I was the one that posted the WHOLE video in that seed tom. I'd tell you to watch it from 50:42 but judging from your misinterpretation of the Memo, it wouldn't make a dent. 

I also posted an article that debunks all of the bullshit about Biden. I doubt that reading that would have an effect on your sycophancy either. 

Here is another article debunking the bullshit, just posted yesterday:  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-ukraine-prosecutor-says-hunter-biden-did-not-violate-anything/ar-AAHTgQp?ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

But hey tom, you go ahead and run with your conspiracy theory if it helps you sleep at night...

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.19  Dulay  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.17    3 weeks ago
Does it really amaze or surprise you? 

You're right, it really doesn't. 

From the same group that is STILL talking about Benghazi and Hillary's emails?

Yep, the first ask from Trump was for Zelensky to 'look into' Hillary's emails. You really can't make this shit up. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.3  Don Overton  replied to  KDMichigan @1    3 weeks ago

Plenty of right wing bull shit 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

It sounded like Trump wanted to get to the bottom of who really hacked the DNC server since we know it wasn't the Russians. Democrats just took over the donald's re-election campaign and guaranteed him a win.

One can only hope post re-election we have more crotch hat protests and other bizarre displays of mental illness in the streets by the moonbat crowd!

384

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago
One can only hope post re-election we have more crotch hat protests and other bizarre displays of mental illness in the streets by the moonbat crowd!

I cant wait for the entertainment. Unfortunately we are going to have 14 more months of But Trump followed by 4 years of But Trump by the snowflakes. We can only hope that congress is in shambles and no new laws are passed.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @2.1    4 weeks ago

This is going to cost them the house too. 

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago
It sounded like Trump wanted to get to the bottom of who really hacked the DNC server since we know it wasn't the [Russians.

Who are 'we' and how do they know that it wasn't Russia? [Link?

Democrats just took over the donald's re-election campaign and guaranteed him a win.

Sure they did...

One can only hope post re-election we have more crotch hat protests and other bizarre displays of mental illness in the streets by the moonbat crowd!

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It Is ME
2.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @2.2    4 weeks ago
Who are 'we'

No one knows anymore ! jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

Maybe another "Whistle Blower" jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg can let you know !

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.2.2  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Dulay @2.2    4 weeks ago
removed for context

Try to discuss the article and not BF, I understand your jealous but keep it to personal msg plz.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.3  Dulay  replied to  KDMichigan @2.2.2    4 weeks ago
Try to discuss the article and not BF, I understand your jealous but keep it to personal msg plz.

Telling me to keep it to personal msg after making a personal comment about me... 

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squiggy
2.2.4  squiggy  replied to  Dulay @2.2.3    4 weeks ago

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Dismayed Patriot
2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago
since we know it wasn't the Russians.

That's like saying "I'm not sure why these clothes are all soaked since we know water isn't wet".

If you're still trying to claim that the mountain of evidence uncovered by our intelligence agencies was all fake and you believe the uncorroborated denials coming from the smirking piece of shit Putin, then there simply is no evidence that will be enough to convince someone who simply doesn't want to know the truth.

My question is, why do you side with a murderous dictator who wants to destroy America and western democracy? Is your hatred of your fellow tax paying law abiding American citizens that strong? Is your fear of liberals and progressives so high that you'll abandon your senses in favor of an enemy foreign government simply because they share your desire to destroy freedom and democracy?

 
 
 
gooseisgone
2.3.1  gooseisgone  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.3    4 weeks ago
If you're still trying to claim that the mountain of evidence uncovered

Please link to the "mountain of evidence" I have seen nothing that proves anything, lots of speculation but no proof, no convictions.

 
 
 
lib50
2.3.2  lib50  replied to  gooseisgone @2.3.1    4 weeks ago

No proof and no convictions?  Proof is already evident, and more to come when Barr can't derail because he is in the middle of it.   Convictions?  YET.  Wait til more comes out, which it will. 

The summary of the call the Trumpers thought would help him is far worse than we thought, and we don't even have the complete transcript or any other concerns the whistleblower had, which are MULTIPLE.  Sit back and enjoy the truth coming out.  And conservatives won't be able to spin this even with the help of millions of trolls and bots, which are already engaging online.  That false bravado we see here is just that, fakery to try to keep the morons in the base in their happy place. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.3.3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  lib50 @2.3.2    4 weeks ago

Have you read the IG report on the whistle-blower yet? In all fairness I think your party was set up. The white house leaked bs to an TDS victim knowing he'd blow the whistle and get Dems to Impeach to bring to light the Biden Ukraine corruption scandal and knock out the only guy that can beat him.

Barr says they are now looking into it and the Ukraine is saying they have all the docs.

Set up the dems, make the media look crazy! The phone call and the IG report sure did show up quickly. I don't think we've ever seen that happen so fast.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
2.3.4  gooseisgone  replied to  lib50 @2.3.2    4 weeks ago
Proof is already evident

Show me the proof.....please....Julian Assange published it and he says it didn't come from the Russians. So maybe you can help Assange out with his confusion.

The summary of the call the Trumpers thought would help him is far worse

Please point me to any text that shows it's even bad. Is this what you think is worse.

The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great

Please explain?

That false bravado we see here is just that, fakery to try to keep the morons in the base in their happy place. 

Almost three years long investigation that netted "Zero" and you accuse me of Fakery, ha ha ha.  Some people's brains have gone from washed to spin cycle.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.3.5  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.3.3    4 weeks ago
In all fairness I think your party was set up.

That doesn't take much. 

https://themonocular.com/article/how-to-cook-and-prepare-crow-pan-fried-crow-recipe/

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.3.6  dennis smith  replied to  lib50 @2.3.2    4 weeks ago

The dems said the  Mueller report would be the end all. After 2 years they were dumbfounded when it revealed nothing. Now they are clamoring for another special counsel. Some never realize they are on the losing side.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.4  Ronin2  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago

Oh, common TPF stop. I like a good meme as much as the next person; but Pelosi and Hillary are hideous in reality. This is going overboard.

I now need to find the mind bleach.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago
It sounded like Trump wanted to get to the bottom of who really hacked the DNC server since we know it wasn't the Russians.

Gaslighting. 

One can only hope post re-election we have more crotch hat protests and other bizarre displays of mental illness in the streets by the moonbat crowd!

Drivelish nonsense. 

384

Your fantasy. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.5.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2.5    4 weeks ago

I'm surprised that he didn't photoshop dicks onto the images.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.5.1    4 weeks ago

He saves the dicks for Michelle Obama 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.5.3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @2.5.2    4 weeks ago

I'm proud to report that the twitties meme has achieved epic viral success. It's now ingrained in google images and is trending on reddit's meme hall of fame.

I'd like to think My internet spiritual adviser John Russell and all of you!

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.6  Don Overton  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    3 weeks ago

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It Is ME
3  It Is ME    4 weeks ago

Where's this Quid Pro Quo thingy Democrats are howling about ?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  It Is ME @3    4 weeks ago

320

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    4 weeks ago

For Sure !

Should be asking Democrats if they want "Grey Poupon" with it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.1    4 weeks ago

They will already have brown "poop-on" their faces. Glorious.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    4 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    4 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    4 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.6    4 weeks ago

That's manners.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    4 weeks ago
That's manners.  

Oh for gosh sakes no !

The "Left" are royalty …. dontchyknow !

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.9  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    4 weeks ago

I have this one too, it's a hall of famer!

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.9    4 weeks ago

Lame, as usual.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.8    4 weeks ago

Compared to tRump supporters?

DEFINITELY

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.12  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.11    4 weeks ago

What's a tRump ?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1.13  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.10    4 weeks ago
Lame, as usual.  

256

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.14  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    4 weeks ago
That's manners.

You are a much nicer person than I am.  Were it me, I would have said, "That's manners, garconanokin ." 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.15  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.13    4 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1.16  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.15    4 weeks ago

I'll see your triple and raise you one....

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.14    4 weeks ago

So fitting Sister.  Thanks!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.18  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.16    4 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.16    4 weeks ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
 
JaneDoe
3.1.21  JaneDoe  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.18    4 weeks ago

Ok that reminded me of a meme a friend shared with me.

256

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.22  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    4 weeks ago

Regular or Potato bun?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.22    4 weeks ago

I will defer to the bun itself to assign it's own idea of content. After all, it is a 
Democrat nothing burger and it is well known that there is always confusion as to identity........................jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.24  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JaneDoe @3.1.21    4 weeks ago

That's hot, i just had to turn the ac up!

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.25  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.23    4 weeks ago

Okay, prolly one of those tasteless, all air and no nutrition, gummy white bread buns that sells for a couple bucks a dozen.  

The kind i only buy to feed the ducks.

Quack, quack!

 
 
 
gooseisgone
3.1.26  gooseisgone  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.16    4 weeks ago

More chins than a Chinese phone book. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.27  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  gooseisgone @3.1.26    4 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
gooseisgone
3.1.28  gooseisgone  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.27    4 weeks ago

Nice Triceps, Arnold would be jealous.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
3.1.29  gooseisgone  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.27    4 weeks ago

I wonder how many different types of cheese's can be found?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.30  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  gooseisgone @3.1.28    4 weeks ago

You could have a threesome with her and never see the other party.

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.1.31  Don Overton  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.8    3 weeks ago

Better than being right wing slime

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.1.32  Don Overton  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Good lord you don't even know who you bow down to

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.1.33  Don Overton  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.27    3 weeks ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.34  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    3 weeks ago

If this whole thing is a nothing burger, then why was the call transferred to a top secret server?

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.35  Dulay  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.34    3 weeks ago

Silence ensues. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @3    4 weeks ago

It's on video with Biden admitting it.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.2    4 weeks ago
It's on video with Biden admitting it.

Not "Relevant" at this time. jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.2    4 weeks ago

Whooooosh ..... the sound that makes going over some of their heads

SPLAT ...... the sound that make for the rest of them wrestling around down in the pig shit.

 
 
 
lib50
3.3  lib50  replied to  It Is ME @3    4 weeks ago

Lol,   it ain't hard to find, but feel free to wait for more to come out.  Imagine what Trump didn't put in the memo if he thought this would help him.  Patience.  Trumps house of cards is about to fall. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  lib50 @3.3    4 weeks ago
Lol,   it ain't hard to find

Apparently ….. It is !

If it wasn't, why would you note this:

"but feel free to wait for more to come out." 

 
 
 
lib50
3.3.2  lib50  replied to  It Is ME @3.3.1    4 weeks ago

Because we only have the 'Barr approved summary' so far, and that is bad enough, but since you apparently aren't satisfied, just sit back and wait for the rest to come out.  And we still wonder how any of this colluding with a foreign government to help you in the election is fine with republicans.  Do you think Trump withholding money to a foreign country so he can get them to do what he wants (a FAVOR) is acceptable?  (note, that gives them blackmail material).  I see conservatives jumping to deflect to dems and Biden instead of dealing with Trump's corruption.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.3.3  It Is ME  replied to  lib50 @3.3.2    4 weeks ago

But you said:

  3.3  lib50  replied to  It Is ME @ 3    46 minutes ago

"it ain't hard to find"

Where is it ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
WallyW
3.3.4  WallyW  replied to  lib50 @3.3    4 weeks ago

You're always wrong.

What's different this time?

 
 
 
dennis smith
3.3.5  dennis smith  replied to  lib50 @3.3    4 weeks ago

We will wait for 5 + more years with Trump as POTUS. We do have patience which the Dems have not had for almost 3 years.

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.3.6  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @3.3.4    3 weeks ago

Says a person who has never been correct

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.3.7  Don Overton  replied to  dennis smith @3.3.5    3 weeks ago

What a laugh your comment is

 
 
 
cms5
4  cms5    4 weeks ago

I too have a link to the transcripts. No subscription required.

Everyone is encouraged to read it...form your own opinions.

Now that we've been able to read this...I'd like to see what the whistleblower is claiming about this call.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  cms5 @4    4 weeks ago

You are really asking a lot, we just chased our tail for 3 years on a ridiculous Russian conspiracy pitched by Democrats and the media.

 
 
 
cms5
4.1.1  cms5  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1    4 weeks ago

I'd like to see all of the facts on the table. I've grown weary of the media's hyperbolic hogwash. Someone on twitter tried telling me to read the news! Pfffft

Pelosi jumped the gun (strong gun control needed here for sure) and announced a 'formal' impeachment inquiry. Well, they've been doing an impeachment inquiry since 2016. This is nothing new at all.

This does open Biden/Ukraine conflict of interest questions and the question about just how involved Ukraine might have been in the 2016 elections.

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.2  Dulay  replied to  cms5 @4.1.1    4 weeks ago
This does open Biden/Ukraine conflict of interest questions and the question about just how involved Ukraine might have been in the 2016 elections.

Since you claim to want to see all the facts on the table, how about you cite the facts that lead you to that conclusion. 

 
 
 
cms5
4.1.3  cms5  replied to  Dulay @4.1.2    4 weeks ago
Since you claim to want to see all the facts on the table, how about you cite the facts that lead you to that conclusion. 

That is not a conclusion...it is an onset of questions.

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.4  Dulay  replied to  cms5 @4.1.3    4 weeks ago
That is not a conclusion...it is an onset of questions.

Yes it is. You concluded that "This DOES open Biden/Ukraine conflict of interest questions".

So WHAT conflict of interest questions does the readout open? 

And WHAT questions "about just how involved Ukraine might have been in the 2016 elections."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

Every single "conservative" response on this thread is gaslighting. 

 
 
 
lady in black
5.1  lady in black  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 weeks ago

I'm sorry, but it's really sad that people think a president trying to coerce a foreign country to "investigate" a private American citizen is not a big deal...

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.1.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @5.1    4 weeks ago
president trying to coerce a foreign country to "investigate"

I take it you didn't read the transcripts....shocker.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

Russia!  

Where is Creepy Porn Lawyer when you need him?

 
 
 
cms5
5.1.3  cms5  replied to  lady in black @5.1    4 weeks ago

Please...Biden worked as Vice President of this country for eight years...making him a very PUBLIC figure, even after leaving office. Please point out the coercion in the transcripts. I've read them and don't see any coercion.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.4  Dulay  replied to  cms5 @5.1.3    4 weeks ago
Zelensky: I want to thank you for your great support in the area of defense.  We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United· States for defense purposes. Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has.it. There - are a lot. of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you a re surrounding yourself with some of the same people.

So Kelensky is talking about defense and Trump immediately asks for a 'favor' connected to the Clinton/DNC emails. 

If you don't think that connecting defense with a 'favor' is 'coercion' I can't help you. 

Zelensky goes on to genuflect to Trump, pointing out that he has already recalled his Ambassador. 

Then Trump ups the anti:

Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the
mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United $tates, the woman., was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine  were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing,
There's a lot of  talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
Zelensky: I wanted to tell ·you about the prosecutor First of all,  I understand arid I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament; the next prosecutor .general will be 100% my
person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and
will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look.
into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us, it would be very helpful  for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one. who told me that she was bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his· side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.

Note that Trump NEVER MENTIONED a company. Only Biden and his son. So Kelensky is telling Trump that Biden isn't the issue, the COMPANY is the issue. 

Also note that this is the second time that Kelensky talks about a PRIOR conversation. What did Trump say in THAT conversation? 

Kelensky misspoke, it should be the Ambassador from the United States to Ukraine, her name is Marie Yovanovitch and Trump did a hit job on her. 

Trump: Well, · she's going to go through some things.

WTF does THAT mean? WHAT 'justice in our country' for an AMERICAN Ambassador are they talking about? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 weeks ago
Every single "conservative" response on this thread is gaslighting. 

Yes Obeywon  ! jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @5.2    4 weeks ago

That's Obi Wan

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    4 weeks ago
That's Obi Wan

You didn't get it ….. did you ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

I can explain it if need be.

Look at the word spelling again, then look at the comment I responded to ! jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

Now...if it's possible....Correlate the two !

 
 
 
lib50
5.2.3  lib50  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.2    4 weeks ago

Still makes no sense, but whatever floats your boat. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.4  It Is ME  replied to  lib50 @5.2.3    4 weeks ago

Close the door, draw the shades, turn off the lights, and go into total darkness with no distractions….and Think about it some more !

You'll get there.

 
 
 
WallyW
5.3  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 weeks ago

If you post the equivalent of cow farts, expect people to ignite it

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.3.1  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @5.3    3 weeks ago

keep farting those right wing stinks 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
6  livefreeordie    4 weeks ago

The insanity of the Democrats is laid bare.

they have now openly declared war on this country and we will not back down.   We didn’t start this war on our Republic. That has been the long term goal of the Democrats.

so bring it on leftists.   You will regret starting this war

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.1  Don Overton  replied to  livefreeordie @6    3 weeks ago

And we will continue trying to bring truth  to your fiction

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 weeks ago

KD,

By copyright law, you must use the image given in the article on the seed. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7    4 weeks ago

When I opened the "Seeded Content", that picture was in the article...............what am I missing?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1    4 weeks ago

The original image was not from the article. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    4 weeks ago

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif Okay...........I guess it was the "photo" link of the transcript to open a quarter of the way down and not really a picture.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
8  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

Well that was a nothing burger.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    4 weeks ago

You forget the creativity of our media, CNN will have a Ukranian collusion flow chart soon that will be posted 1000 times here.

 
 
 
It Is ME
9  It Is ME    4 weeks ago

Al Green is vindicated ……. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Tacos!
10  Tacos!    4 weeks ago

One thing in Trump's favor in this exchange is that he says five times that he wants the US Attorney General involved. That would be appropriate - more appropriate than making Giuliani the lone point man, as has been reported so far.

  • I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.
  • I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.
  • so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
  • I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it.
  • I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you.

Of course the follow-up question is did Trump actually have the AG call Ukraine or not?

 
 
 
Dulay
10.1  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @10    4 weeks ago

I can't find anywhere in the duties of the AG that authorize him to involved himself in the justice system of a foreign nation. 

BTW, Barr told a DOJ investigator that Trump never talked to him about calling Kelensky...so Trump is blowing smoke...

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dulay @10.1    4 weeks ago

Democrats got played!

512

 
 
 
loki12
10.1.2  loki12  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    4 weeks ago

I can see Adam Schit and Jerry Nadless now, sitting there smoking their cigars cheering each other on........

Surely we can get one more pu......BOOOOOOOM.....fffffff.........Off this trump cigar.

 
 
 
Dulay
10.1.3  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    4 weeks ago

Another irrelevant post from you. Going for a record? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
10.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @10.1    4 weeks ago
I can't find anywhere in the duties of the AG that authorize him to involved himself in the justice system of a foreign nation.

That's obviously an incomplete characterization. Considering the suspected wrongdoers are American citizens, and including possibly even the Vice President (at the time), it is not simply getting involved in the "justice system of a foreign nation." It would absolutely and necessarily require cooperation between two nations. 

It's interesting, though, that you would have a problem with the United States involving itself in the justice system of a foreign nation, because that's exactly what Joe Biden did when he threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars in loan guarantees if Viktor Shokin, the Ukranian prosecutor, wasn't fired. So they fired him.

So shouldn't we be investigating that?

 
 
 
Dulay
10.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.4    4 weeks ago
That's obviously an incomplete characterization. Considering the suspected wrongdoers are American citizens, and including possibly even the Vice President (at the time), it is not simply getting involved in the "justice system of a foreign nation."

If the alleged crime occurred in the Ukraine, it most certainly IS simply getting involved in their justice system. 

Seriously, exactly when the fuck did it become kosher for the United States government to try to get an American citizen prosecuted by a Foreign nation? 

Is there NO bottom to what you will accept?

It would absolutely and necessarily require cooperation between two nations. 

Why? 

It's interesting, though, that you would have a problem with the United States involving itself in the justice system of a foreign nation, because that's exactly what Joe Biden did when he threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars in loan guarantees if Viktor Shokin, the Ukranian prosecutor, wasn't fired. So they fired him.

There is a HUGE difference between instigating an investigation into an American citizen by a foreign nation for the good of Trump and demanding, along with the support of multiple allies and the IMF, that a CORRUPT prosecutor be removed for the good of Ukraine. 

So shouldn't we be investigating that?

There is NO evidence that WE are investigating ANYTHING about Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. There is only evidence that Trump wants Ukraine to do it. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
10.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @10.1.5    4 weeks ago
Seriously, exactly when the fuck did it become kosher for the United States government to try to get an American citizen prosecuted by a Foreign nation?

When did anyone suggest that Ukranian authorities should prosecute an American citizen? Trump asked them to look into it, i.e. investigate the matter. He never said anything about prosecuting anyone.

Several US laws apply outside the country. For example, homicide, kidnapping, assault, destruction of property, threats, counterfeiting.

Extraterritorial Application of American Criminal Law

If it turns out that the Vice President used his power to facilitate some kind of fraud, I don't care where he did it, it's a big deal.

There is a HUGE difference

Sure, everybody's got their reasons and their spin, don't they.

There is only evidence that Trump wants Ukraine to do it.

He's free to want whatever he likes. Presidents always want other countries to do something. There is, however, no evidence that he has improperly compelled or coerced anyone to actually do anything about it beyond simply asking. 

 
 
 
Dulay
10.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.6    4 weeks ago
When did anyone suggest that Ukranian authorities should prosecute an American citizen? Trump asked them to look into it, i.e. investigate the matter. He never said anything about prosecuting anyone.

From the memo:

Trump: There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me. 

Several US laws apply outside the country. For example, homicide, kidnapping, assault, destruction of property, threats, counterfeiting.

None of which apply in Ukraine or should be investigated or prosecuted by Ukraine. 

If it turns out that the Vice President used his power to facilitate some kind of fraud, I don't care where he did it, it's a big deal.

What fraud? Be specific. 

Sure, everybody's got their reasons and their spin, don't they.

Is it your posit that there is no difference? 

He's free to want whatever he likes. Presidents always want other countries to do something.

For the benefit of the COUNTRY, not for their own benefit. 

There is, however, no evidence that he has improperly compelled or coerced anyone to actually do anything about it beyond simply asking. 

Just ASKING for a foreign President to investigate an American citizen for his own benefit is an abuse of power. No coercion is necessary. 

BTFW, if Ukraine, who lest we forget, Trump insists is corrupt, were to try to prosecute Hunter Biden, the US would NOT extradite him. Though I wouldn't put it past Trump to sign an extradition treaty with the Ukraine JUST to get at Biden. 

So WTF is the point other than Trump's political bullshit?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.6    4 weeks ago

It should be shocking to see people like you endlessly defending this utterly corrupt president*, but by now sadly, it is just business as usual. 

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.9  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    4 weeks ago

What is even more shocking is some guy on the internet judging people he has never met and acting like he is morally superior you are not.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @10.1.9    4 weeks ago

When we are on a forum like this we all judge other people's comments. That is what a forum like this is all about.  I dont judge what people are like outside the forum, I dont know anything about any of their outside behavior, nor wish to. 

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.11  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.10    4 weeks ago

You think you are morally superior you are not. I would even bet you are the type that never tips, double parks and takes more than one dip with a chip at a party. 

 
 
 
squiggy
10.1.12  squiggy  replied to  MUVA @10.1.11    4 weeks ago

“...more than one dip...”

Ooooo, that’s low - as bad as drinking from another guy’s beer can.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
10.1.13  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @10.1.9    4 weeks ago

 I disagree with some here, but I would love to know them in real life.  I think the discussions face to face would be stimulating and fascinating.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.1.14  r.t..b...  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @10.1.13    4 weeks ago
I think the discussions face to face would be stimulating and fascinating.

And with much less rancor. It would be interesting to get together and have a mixer as people shared their thoughts and then let everyone try to match an unknown person to their well-known avatar. Some would be easy, but I'm guessing many in the room would be surprised. Pleasantly, I hope.

 
 
 
Tacos!
10.1.15  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    4 weeks ago
It should be shocking to see people like you endlessly defending this utterly corrupt president*, but by now sadly, it is just business as usual. 

It should be shocking to see people like you endlessly attacking this president for ordinary behavior, but by now sadly, it is just business as usual.

 
 
 
Tacos!
10.1.16  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.10    4 weeks ago
When we are on a forum like this we all judge other people's comments.

Yeah, but that's not what you do. You don't judge people's comments; you judge people. That's why you routinely say shit like "people like you." It's why you are constantly at odds with moderators and your frustration plays out in meta more than anyone else. You don't limit yourself to a discussion of the content of comments. You attack the people making those comments. Daily.

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.15    4 weeks ago

This 'president', Ordinary behavior?

LMFAO!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
10.1.18  igknorantzrulz  replied to  r.t..b... @10.1.14    4 weeks ago
et everyone try to match an unknown person to their well-known avatar. Some would be easy, but I'm guessing many in the room would be surprised. Pleasantly, I hope.

i believe i would be fairly easy, at least that's what the opposite sex tells me, when i'm hard to figure out, which , can happen on occasion.

An open mixer with hopefully much liquid elixir  to lubricate the apprehension that though it hasn't been , is worthy of mention.

Whos buying and hosting, cause i'm flying then toasting.

It would be most interesting a social study. I've actually been encouraged to wear a not so hidden go pro style camera, and make a trek from my East Coast Proximity , to that of our coast to the West.

While keeping a journal of my journey's  and updating all of my findings. As difficult as it may be, my interactions with about any and all, rarely fall short of interesting, and more likely tend to be down right hilarious and or simultaneously bazarre.

Even those with opinions opposite, i believe could/would still find my interaction, stimulating, as on other not so okasions, i'm the poster  child for imagination gone wild, but with smaller breasts...sorry had to get that off my icy warm chests, never treasured.

I'll pack my back pack and await my disorders, that i'll probably never follow, as i prefer to lead from the back of the pack, cause i somehow can.

When are they gonna break for lunch ?

Somebody's gotta take a leak after 3.5 hours.

 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.1.19  r.t..b...  replied to  igknorantzrulz @10.1.18    3 weeks ago
Somebody's gotta take a leak after 3.5 hours.

...or spring one. And the west is the best, wide open spaces...as the commentary coming from these parts so often attests.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
10.1.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @10.1.14    3 weeks ago

Pin the avatar on the Newstalker.......love it.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.21  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @10.1.20    3 weeks ago

Speaking of avatars, I'm shocked no one has realized exactly what is in my bowl.

Free get out of skirt to the first that discovers it....lol

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
10.1.22  igknorantzrulz  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.21    3 weeks ago

it appears to be a hand grabbing a catfish

so, i'll

guess a 

Trumpfish ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
10.1.23  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.21    3 weeks ago
Speaking of avatars, I'm shocked no one has realized exactly what is in my bowl. Free get out of skirt to the first that discovers it....lol

I'll give it a shot ......……….

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.24  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  igknorantzrulz @10.1.22    3 weeks ago

Click on my homepage, you will know.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
10.1.25  JaneDoe  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.21    3 weeks ago

A double rubber dildo?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.26  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JaneDoe @10.1.25    3 weeks ago

winner...it's a rabbit vibrator. took a lot of work to put that in a bowl.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
10.1.27  JaneDoe  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.26    3 weeks ago

I love winning. Now for that free get out of skirt... hummm

 
 
 
JaneDoe
10.1.28  JaneDoe  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @10.1.20    3 weeks ago

I think that would be fun. Trying to match the avatar with the actual person.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
10.1.29  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.21    3 weeks ago

A floater?

 
 
 
Don Overton
10.1.30  Don Overton  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

Sorry but your little post is just another hunk of right wing bullshiy

Impeach Trump

 
 
 
Don Overton
10.1.31  Don Overton  replied to  Dulay @10.1.3    3 weeks ago

The right's lies  are getting more desperate

 
 
 
Don Overton
10.1.32  Don Overton  replied to  MUVA @10.1.11    3 weeks ago

You don't even know what a tip is

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11  Dismayed Patriot    4 weeks ago

"We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes." Zelenskiy

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. " Trump

How is that not quid pro quo? How can anyone read that transcript and come away thinking "Well, that request for Ukraine to investigate Biden's son has nothing to do with Joe Biden being a likely opponent in the 2020 election and if they refused it certainly wasn't a condition for continued US would military funds or the sale of Javelin missiles"? You have to be seriously daft or perhaps had some major brain damage to not see what he was asking for.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    4 weeks ago

for starters, the "favor" had nothing to do with the Biden investigation. Did you even read the memo?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1    4 weeks ago
for starters, the "favor" had nothing to do with the Biden investigation. Did you even read the memo?

"I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us." - Zelenskiy to Trump

"Did you ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?" - Cuomo

"Of course I did" - Giuliani

So his request "had nothing to do with the Biden investigation? Seriously? That's what your defense is? You'd be laughed out of a court room if that was the defense you presented.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
11.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.1    4 weeks ago

 his request "had nothing to do with the Biden investigation? 

Do you not understand basic reading comprehension skills?   This is the actual "favor" Trump asked for:  Sadly you cut and pasted other statements rather then quote him directly.

"I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess
you have one of your weal thy people... The server, they say
Ukraine has it "

His "favor,"  was a request for information on the server involved in the DNC hack. Juxtaposing that request with the earlier discussion of Biden is simply dishonest.,

You'd be laughed out of a court room if that was the defense you presented.

Imagine what would happen to a prosecutor who takes statements from one part of a document and inserts them in other places to mislead the court. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.2    4 weeks ago
The server, they sayUkraine has it "

it continued:

"There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible." - Trump

"Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future -cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that. purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have, friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure you." - Zelenskiy

"Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who' was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to." - Trump

There was no doubt what Trump was asking for and it's obvious Zelenskiy knew exactly what Trump was asking for considering he'd already been notified by Giuliani who admitted he did in fact pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. Those playing dumb now just reveals how extremely partisan a person is, or how monumentally stupid they are.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
11.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.3    4 weeks ago

Yeah, thanks for proving that the favor Trump asked for, despite what you falsely claimed above, had nothing to do with investigating the Bidens.  It's simply dishonest to take statments out of context and mash them together to create a fale narrative. You should be ashamed. 

Per the transcript, Trump's "favor" was asking them to cooperate with an ongoing DOJ investigation into foreign interference in the 2016 election.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.4    4 weeks ago
had nothing to do with investigating the Bidens

Did you also have trouble with connect the dot pictures as a child?

Zel - We want the missiles.

Dumpty - I need a favor though regarding "the whole situation". That Mueller thing had a bunch of info from Ukraine. "Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible"

Zel - We spoke with Rudy Tootie, we're on the same page. From one ex-comedian TV star to another, we got your back.

Dumpty - Good, I heard you had a prosecutor who was treated unfairly by you know who (wink)

Zel - We're on it (wink)

It's hard not to see the connections in that conversation, and this wasn't the only one, and Trump had already sent Giuliani with his ask before this phone call so there was no need to be specific. Trump is monumentally stupid, but even I didn't think he'd be stupid enough to just spell it out asking the Ukrainian President "Hey, I'm facing an election next year and I could really use some dirt on Joe Biden and I'm going to withhold those anti-tank missiles till I get something I can use against him...". I don't think anyone expected that, but apparently that's the only thing that might have moved any Trump supporters opinion, and even then they likely would have just said "Well, he didn't shoot anyone on 5th Ave...".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.2    4 weeks ago

Trump clearly had TWO favors to ask . 

The first was for Ukraine to propagate a far right conspiracy theory about the DNC hack, and the other was for Ukraine to aid Rudy Giuliani in digging up dirt on Biden. 

Both "favors" are shameful. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.2  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    4 weeks ago
You have to be seriously daft or perhaps had some major brain damage to not see what he was asking for.

Or just have a terminal case of TDS to see what isn't there.

But yes we need to impeach President Trump, I would call your congressperson ASAP.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
11.2.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @11.2    4 weeks ago

Rachel Maddow is consulting her experts tonight.

512

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11.2.1    4 weeks ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
11.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11.2.1    4 weeks ago

Rachel …… She hasn't found "Capones Vault" either.

“the great self-promotor of our times.”

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
11.2.4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @11.2.3    4 weeks ago

Meanwhile Nancy is now the top fund raiser for Republicans.

 
 
 
It Is ME
11.2.5  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11.2.4    4 weeks ago
Meanwhile Nancy is now the top fund raiser for Republicans.

Funny how Democrats are doing exactly what Trump "TOLD THEM TO DO" ! jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

GO FOR IT ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
11.2.6  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @11.2.5    4 weeks ago

After all he is their daddy!  He is giving them free shirts.

384

 
 
 
It Is ME
11.2.7  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11.2.6    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11.2.1    4 weeks ago

It's quite notable that all your comments on this topic are memes, cartoons, and diversionary nonsense. 

The truth hurts those who have been defending the Trump clown show all these years. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
11.3  livefreeordie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    4 weeks ago

This is presidential foreign policy 101.  EVERY president engages in this kind of negotiations with foreign countries. each asking for favors and then coming to agreement.

this desperate attempt by the left to call this an impeachable crime demonstrates just how badly they want to destroy not just president Trump, but conservatives and to fully complete their totalitarian destruction of our Republic

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12  Just Jim NC TttH    4 weeks ago

320

 
 
 
MrFrost
13  MrFrost    4 weeks ago

52 U.S. Code § 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national , directly or indirectly, to make—
(A)
a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value , or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B)
a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C)
an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title ); or
(2)
a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national .
(b) “Foreign national” defined As used in this section, the term “ foreign national ” means—
(1)
a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22 , except that the term “foreign national” shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2)
an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8 ) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8 .
( Pub. L. 92–225, title III, § 319 , formerly § 324, as added Pub. L. 94–283, title I, § 112(2) , May 11, 1976 , 90 Stat. 493 ; renumbered § 319, Pub. L. 96–187, title I, § 105(5) , Jan. 8, 1980 , 93 Stat. 1354 ; amended Pub. L. 107–155, title III , §§ 303, 317, Mar. 27, 2002 , 116 Stat. 96 , 109.)
It is ILLEGAL to receive anything of value, (including information), from a foreign country to assist a campaign. FACT. And that is EXACTLY what trump was doing. 
Then there is this...
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
13.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @13    4 weeks ago

DOJ already shot this down.

Try again. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
13.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.1    4 weeks ago
DOJ already shot this down.

Would that be the same DOJ that hid the whistleblower report and the call transcripts? Yea, they are trustworthy. /s

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
13.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  MrFrost @13    4 weeks ago

LOL Biden is over, finished...finito!

TDS burned their best chance at beating the Trump with another conspiracy attempt!

Crickets would be chirping but they are so use to it by now.

AG says they are now investigating and the Ukraine is 100% complying!  Whoooooooooooooops!

 
 
 
loki12
13.2.1  loki12  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @13.2    4 weeks ago

Didn't he ask him to look into Biden's son Hunter? and the corruption of his deal in the energy sector? Last i looked, Hunter isn't trumps opponent?  His sundowners dad is.

 
 
 
MrFrost
13.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  loki12 @13.2.1    4 weeks ago

Debunked a long time ago. Even fox news said that Hunter was paid by an oligarch, not the ukrainian government. Also, Biden got a corrupt prosecutor fired, I can see why the right is so upset by that. 

 
 
 
loki12
13.2.3  loki12  replied to  MrFrost @13.2.2    4 weeks ago
Hunter was paid by an oligarch,

Yeah! Biden and his son are on the payroll of a Ukrainian oligarch with ties to Russia! that is so much better............

Russia!

 
 
 
loki12
13.2.4  loki12  replied to  MrFrost @13.2.2    4 weeks ago

Please point out anywhere where i said that hunter was getting paid by anyone, I said energy sector. 

What are you debunking? 

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.2.5  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @13.2.2    4 weeks ago

Hunter was a board member of a firm called Burisma Holdings and Burisma Holdings was being investigated by the Ukraine prosecutor that Joe Biden extorted to be fired.

Facts are good to know.

 
 
 
Dulay
13.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Sunshine @13.2.5    4 weeks ago
Hunter was a board member of a firm called Burisma Holdings and Burisma Holdings was being investigated by the Ukraine prosecutor that Joe Biden extorted to be fired.

The investigation of Burisma Holdings was CLOSED a YEAR before Biden went to Ukraine. One of the reasons that MANY countries and the IMF wanted the prosecutor removed is because he closed that investigation. 

Facts are good to know.

Yes they are, try posting some. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.2.7  Sunshine  replied to  Dulay @13.2.6    4 weeks ago
The investigation of Burisma Holdings was CLOSED a YEAR before Biden went to Ukraine. One of the reasons that MANY countries and the IMF wanted the prosecutor removed is because he closed that investigation. 

Now who told you that bullshit?

That was a British Court. Have you been watching CNN, they tend to leave out information to fool their viewers.  Awe the gullible.

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/396015.html

 
 
 
Dulay
13.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Sunshine @13.2.7    4 weeks ago

Your link is from 2017. Shorkin was fired in May, 2016. DO try to keep up. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.2.9  Sunshine  replied to  Dulay @13.2.8    4 weeks ago

Very good dear.  Now try and see if you can read it.

Do I need to hold your hand through it?

You said the investigation by Ukraine was closed before Joe Lyin Biden's visit and his extortion against the Ukrainian government.  No dear, the Ukrainian case was closed after.  As the American attorney for the holding company stated it was officially closed months after the firing of the previous Ukraine prosecutor.

Yes, try and do keep up dear.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
13.2.10  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @13.2.2    4 weeks ago
Biden got a corrupt prosecutor fired,

So thanks for admitting that Biden intervened in a foreign nation to protect his Billy Carter dope fiend son.

256

 
 
 
Sunshine
13.3  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @13    4 weeks ago

wow...after all that internet lawyering I'm convinced jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
13.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @13.3    4 weeks ago

Actually it's a US law, sorry to confuse you. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
13.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @13.3.1    4 weeks ago

No it is NOT a US law.

" The United States Code is a helpful edited collection that tries to reflect what the Statutes at Large actually add up to, but it is “prima facie” evidence of law, not the law itself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/05/15/reminder-the-united-states-code-is-not-the-law/

 
 
 
livefreeordie
13.4  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @13    4 weeks ago

NOT- 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sean Treacy @14    4 weeks ago
Explains why Democrats tried to make this about Biden...

Trump made it about Biden, Sean.  But let me ask you this:  Why didn't Trump go through channels in the US to have Biden or his son investigated?  Had either one done anything wrong, why wouldn't an investigation be opened here?  Trump circumvented protocol for one reason and one reason only.  Part of that circumvented protocol was to include personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
14.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1    4 weeks ago
(crouches in his chair)

Hi sister, Please don't tell my mom i authored some of these comments. BTW that's not water in my bowl, it's shame.

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.2  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1    4 weeks ago
Why didn't Trump go through channels in the US to have Biden or his son investigated?  Had either one done anything wrong, why wouldn't an investigation be opened here?

Because the crime that bidens son committed was in Ukraine, before Biden extorted the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor and kill the case against his son. according to the transcript, he asked him to look into Hunter and the corruption in the energy sector and the Russian oligarch that funded it, the US doesn't have jurisdiction.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  loki12 @14.1.2    4 weeks ago

If Hunter Biden returned to this country with ill-gotten gains, it opened a door for investigation.  He's a lobbyist, Loki.  There are rules and regulations that must be followed regarding dialogue with foreign governments, payment for services, transparent disclosure, etc. If there were any truth to Biden family shenanigans, Trump would have been shouting it from the treetops, not trying to hide it by making personal calls and  sending personal representatives.

 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
14.1.4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.3    4 weeks ago

Yes but have you met the chinpanzee yet?

512

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
14.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @14.1.4    4 weeks ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
14.1.6  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @14.1.5    4 weeks ago

Don't forget to exercise your chin!

512

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
14.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.3    4 weeks ago

Who was the POTUS at the time?....................

"Trump would have been shouting it from the treetops,"

He did bring it up did he not?

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.8  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.3    4 weeks ago

Deflection fail, he wasn’t working as a lobbyist for the Oligarchs, he was a board member of a Ukraine company, laundering Russian drug money.

 
 
 
Dulay
14.1.9  Dulay  replied to  loki12 @14.1.2    4 weeks ago
Because the crime that bidens son committed was in Ukraine, before Biden extorted the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor and kill the case against his son.

What crime? 

There was NO case against his son. The Prosecutor General of Ukraine stated that there is NO evidence that Hunter Biden did anything illegal. 

according to the transcript, he asked him to look into Hunter

Yes. Trump asks a foreign President to investigate an American citizen without citing any evidence against him. 

and the corruption in the energy sector and the Russian oligarch that funded it, the US doesn't have jurisdiction.

The memo says no such thing. 

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.10  loki12  replied to  Dulay @14.1.9    4 weeks ago

Was that ruled no crime before or after Biden extorted them by threatening to withhold aid?  

Russia!

 
 
 
Dulay
14.1.11  Dulay  replied to  loki12 @14.1.10    4 weeks ago
Was that ruled no crime before or after Biden extorted them by threatening to withhold aid?

If you are talking about what the Prosecutor General of Ukraine stated, that happened this May when he basically said that Giuliani is full of shit. 

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.12  loki12  replied to  Dulay @14.1.11    4 weeks ago

Since the new president wasn’t sworn in until the end of May, it was the old prosecutor. The one that the democrats threatened to withhold aide to if they closed an investigation that they wanted that supported Mueller, that prosecutor?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1.13  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @14.1.7    4 weeks ago
He did bring it up did he not?

Are you not aware of the timing?  This began months ago.  The whistleblower's report was withheld for a period of time.  Translation:  Trump thought he was safe.  Until now.

 
 
 
Dulay
14.1.14  Dulay  replied to  loki12 @14.1.12    4 weeks ago

No, not that prosecutor.

The 'old prosecutor' was Shorkin and he was fired in May 2016, you know, when Biden was VP. The IS what this bullshit is supposed to all about after all right? 

The prosecutor that said that Giuliani is full of shit JUST left office in August 2019.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1.15  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  loki12 @14.1.8    4 weeks ago
Deflection fail, he wasn’t working as a lobbyist for the Oligarchs, he was a board member of a Ukraine company, laundering Russian drug money.

Sorry Dear.  He is a lawyer and a lobbyist.  

Deflection fail?  I know it's a term you enjoy using.  A lot.  But I don't think it means what you think it means.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
14.1.16  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dulay @14.1.9    4 weeks ago

do you see how uninformed some are as they blindly defend

i do understand it is an overwhelming amount right now

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.17  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.15    4 weeks ago

Of course it means exactly what I think it means. Another deflection fail on your part.

i will type it slower, he wasn’t working as a fucking lobbist for Ukraine FFS! He was a board member making 50 grand a month with zero experience! 

Do you understand he wasn’t a lobbyist? I don’t give a fuck what he does now.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1.18  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  loki12 @14.1.17    4 weeks ago

Feel free to type as slowly or as quickly as you like.  It takes a lot more than silly comments from someone like...you...to ruffle my feathers.  

I'm glad to see that you are having such a grand time.  Please carry on. 

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.19  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.18    4 weeks ago

I will take that as an acceptance of the fact that Biden wasn’t working as a lobbyist, but as a board member of a company under investigation until the Vice President threatened to withhold aide.!

maybe the pay off to Russia for their help was Crimea? And it punishes Ukraine for their temerity to challenge Biden.

 
 
 
lib50
14.1.20  lib50  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @14.1.4    4 weeks ago

Did you have to show Trump talking out of his ass again?  Right before bed?  Geez

 
 
 
loki12
14.1.21  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.13    4 weeks ago
This began months ago.  The whistleblower's report was withheld for a period of time. 

It appears you have no idea what the you are talking about. the whistle blowers complaint is dated 8/12 not months ago. and the whistle blower has been in the news for a week. 

 
 
 
Dulay
14.2  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @14    4 weeks ago
Explains why Democrats tried to make this about Biden... 

Which begs the question: Why did Trump ask Zelensky to investigate it if Barr's 'right hand man' is on the job? 

 
 
 
WallyW
15  WallyW    4 weeks ago
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WallyW
15.1  WallyW  replied to  WallyW @15    4 weeks ago
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WallyW
15.2  WallyW  replied to  WallyW @15    4 weeks ago
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Don Overton
15.2.1  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @15.2    3 weeks ago

Sorry Wally you still don't get it, I'ts already been proven

 
 
 
JohnRussell
16  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

from the transcript

President of Ukraine   :      ....would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes ..

President Trump   :    I would like you to do us a favor though

 
 
 
loki12
16.1  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @16    4 weeks ago

If you don’t fire the prosecutor investigating my sons crimes I will withhold billions of dollars in aide.

Joe Biden

 
 
 
JohnRussell
16.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @16.1    4 weeks ago

I honestly dont think you understand the issue.   At least your response doesnt show that understanding. 

 
 
 
loki12
16.1.2  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1.1    4 weeks ago

Just like every bullshit post of yours for the last 3 years.....You’ve got him this time. LOL

 
 
 
Don Overton
16.1.3  Don Overton  replied to  loki12 @16.1.2    3 weeks ago

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loki12
16.1.4  loki12  replied to  Don Overton @16.1.3    3 weeks ago

He said as he ............you get the gist.   

 
 
 
 
loki12
16.2  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @16    4 weeks ago

Three democrat senators threaten to withhold aide if Ukraine doesn't investigate trump and aide Mueller in his investigation.

"As strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine, we believe that our cooperation should extend to such legal matters , regardless of politics," the three senators wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/robert-mueller-ukraine/index.html

 
 
 
Dulay
16.2.1  Dulay  replied to  loki12 @16.2    4 weeks ago
Three democrat senators threaten to withhold aide if Ukraine doesn't investigate trump and aide Mueller in his investigation.

That is an utter fabrication. The link you posted doesn't say a fucking word about withholding aid. You're way over your head...

 
 
 
loki12
16.2.2  loki12  replied to  Dulay @16.2.1    4 weeks ago

Russia!

you’ve got him this time! Of course they made the threat as explicit as trump. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
16.2.3  Don Overton  replied to  loki12 @16.2    3 weeks ago
So much right wing bullshit so little time
 
 
 
gooseisgone
16.3  gooseisgone  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 weeks ago
I would like you to do us a favor though

What is the favor.........look into "Crowd Strike", what's wrong John afraid the Russian collusion bullshit story will be uncovered.

 
 
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