Trump: The Man, The Myth, The Misogyny
As a preface, I'm going to let everyone know right off the bat, you are more than welcome to disagree!
Trump: The Man!
Okay, what can I really say here that we haven't all heard before. Depending on which way and how hard you lean on the Political Spectrum, he is anything from a narcissistic asshole, to the best thing since sliced bread. Personally, I think he is both, You don't grow up rich and own companies by being the nice guy. Face it, with Great Wealth comes the whole "I'm better than most" attitude. Yeah, he's got it--BAD! You will be hard pressed to find anyone who will deny he's a prick. I certainly am not going to try to simply because he proves it all the time with his tweets. Throw in a few past photos and some soundbites from years ago, and he reveals his personality is exactly what most believe him to be: An Asshole!
BUT! That isn't what got him elected.
What got him elected was a bad economy where even though things were looking up for Wall Street and the White Collar class, it was still pretty shitty for Main Street and the Blue Collar workers. Part of the problem was job scarcity and stagnate or deflating wages. His promise to rebuild the crumbling infrastructure and the ridding of illegal immigrant competition for jobs rang loudly with Blue Collar America. Some people couldn't understand that this has nothing to do with skin color, but with the simple fact that more competition for jobs from people who will do the work for less money, doesn't help put the Citizen's of this country back to work or put as much money in the tills on Main Street stores and eateries. These same people that cried Racism because of this fact are the very same ones demanding we raise minimum wage! Well Trump knew this would resound across the country with those who slap on work-shoes and work-boots every day; and it did. If Congress would have spent HALF as much energy working on funding the infrastructure projects as they've spent trying to get rid of a duly elected President, then rebuilding of our crumbling infrastructure, and Yes, even securing the border( be it with a physical barrier, an electronic one, with more manpower, or better yet-- a combination of all three--) then we probably would have seen an even lower unemployment rate than we have now! As a bonus; as a result of a shrinking labor pool; higher wages! What isn't to like here???
Trump: The Myth!
He is no Saint by any means, and he certainly like to take credit even when it isn't due. Is he a successful business man? YES! After all, he did finance his run for the Presidency without taking the huge bribes, oops, I meant to say donations like his counterparts did and still continue to do. As a shrewd business man, he protected his money in various ways, many of which we all have an opinion on; whether it is his hypocrisy of outsourcing his products to overseas sweatshop, filing bankruptcy to get out of paying his debts, or fleecing people by playing on their greed by promising to teach them his dirty tricks, he still made a lot of money doing it. Maybe you are one of those that tout his business acumen as a reason for electing/voting for him. I hate to tell you, but you just voted in another rich asshole who will place his wants and needs above yours any day. Him being For The Working Class is a myth! Just look at what he did to protect his money from his debtors and how he acquired it in the first place. That alone should tell you how good his word is.
Another Myth being propagated is that he is a Great Negotiator. He isn't. It isn't hard to "re-negotiate" what were shitty deals to begin with and make them better, but exactly WHAT "deal" has he put together that is "great"? Short answer: NONE. Thank God his adversaries are worse than he...or are they really since they all still got a lot of what they wanted while we got only slightly better terms than we had before and they are still reaping rewards. I still don't see Mexico paying for the Wall and I damn sure don't see peace in the Middle East. China and Russia are still playing their games, and Third World sweatshop products still flood our markets. You want to impress me with your negotiating skills, put an end to all of those. Trump, you have the Power of the American dollar, our trade alliances and allies, and our military to boot at your disposal. There is NO excuse for us sitting here still at war, still in a trade deficit, and still buying cheap crap from overseas at high prices. (Looking at you iPhone!)
Trump: The Misogynist!
We get it. He comes from a time where women were subservient to their Masters--their husband...NOT!!!
No his boorish behavior was born from the same place his personality is--MONEY! That's right, there are indeed women who will not only tolerate his behavior, but also encourage it in hopes of getting something out of it. For most, it was just about some quick money; for a couple, it was a marriage. Yes, he talks about women like they are beneath him. He treats women like they are beneath him. He treats women the way men talk about women when they are by themselves in a bar or a locker room. You know; the same way women talk about men when they aren't around. Does that make it right? No. Well if it isn't right, it must be wrong! Nope. It's called braggadocio. It's how we impress our friends, family, and acquaintances with how great we are. Normally, anyone bragging, is taken with a grain of salt. Normally, when we hear about someone bragging, we just say
"Yea...Riiiight"
For some reason now, all of a sudden it seems, the entire country had a Come To Jesus Moment where such juvenile behavior is now a damnable character flaw. Somehow during that moment, every ones sin of bragging about sexual conquests has been forgiven--except Trump!
Sorry, but he wasn't elected because he was a Boy Scout or a Priest, he was elected because the other choices sucked so much more.
And THAT folks...is the bottom line!
As an after word I will remind you to mind the CoC and the ToS.
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I hope my candid assessing of why this guy got elected and will probably get elected again doesn't hurt too many peoples feelings...
Too bad if people's feelings get hurt. Good post!
I think you did a good job of assessing this guy. I still don't think he's ever going to do anything about our crumbling infrastructure or get the blue collar people back to work like he said he would.
And now military funds are being diverted to that wall. Meanwhile, one of my husband's dorms has a condemned staircase....
Trump doesn't have the gonads to go to Congress for funding for his vanity project so he ORDERS the DOD to divert funding from the military.
Didn't hurt my feelings at all, I rather enjoyed the article. As I said below, I may not agree with it on all points, but it was well done.
So to sum up, you believe dishonest Donald is a prick, an asshole, definitely not a Saint, a hypocrite, not a great negotiator, talks about women like they are beneath him, treats women like they are beneath him, is a monumental braggart, but he's not Hillary Clinton so he has your vote.
Quite the sad commentary on how low the bar has been set by those on the right due to their unwarranted and unmitigated hate of Hillary. That kompot must have been seriously strong stuff.
Problem with that premise is I'm actually a Leftie on some issues like Universal Care, Free college education, and quite a few other important issues--while also being on the Right with issues like Illegal Immigration and lower corporate taxes. Now you may think that my hatred of Hillary is unwarranted, and it definitely will never be mitigated by anything she would ever conceivably do, but that is your opinion. In my opinion she deserves every bit of the hatred I have for her...and I'm a Socialist!
Hard to tell if your hatred is unwarranted when you have not explained the cause of that hatred. So please, provide a few highlights on the cause of the hatred.
I doubt you'll get a response. He hates Hillary just because.
Too many "hate" Hillary because the GOP told them to. They have no other reason than the rhetoric.
As weird as this is going to sound? I don't agree with this. LOL
Seriously, if people want to get a 2 year degree, "for free", fine, but it needs to be paid back in some way, community service, volunteer at the college to help other students, something...
LOL! As a "leftie" I don't agree with free college, either! I think college is appreciated more when a person actually has to work for that degree and I don't mean just grades and stuff.
My daughter had a weekend job as a nurse assistant and not only did it help with expenses but it gave her the experience to be hired at a prestigious hospital before she graduated.
I feel the same way.
What I don't like about so called higher education is where the priorities lie.
The astronomical costs in order to support a football team...
Also how some employers consider where a degree came from.
Ie Yale>community college.
I think the best way to go is to go to community college maybe for the first two years to get the general courses out of the way, then maybe the next two years at university for more specialized classes.
You mean the millions spent appeasing the left-over Neanderthals in society.
I just read this. Unreal...
Having read about the experiences of those who had to work with her, knowing what she did to Bernie Sanders, her moments caught when thinking no cameras were around, the way she covered for Bill and attacked his victims, the way she acted during TravelGate, the robbing of the White House when her and Bill left, the millions she made while in office, the convenience of people dying around her, evidence of wrongdoing destroyed, free pass from her cronies...yeah, I've got my reasons simply because I know people just like her; Powerful, Connected, Above The Law...all while calling anyone who doesn't kowtow to her agenda horrid names like " Racist ".
Need I say more???
Sounds just like someone else that was in the race. : )
'Sounds just like someone else that was in the race. : )'
Sounds exactly like crooked Donnie (as lady in black likes to say)
He is connected, as in mob, thug, gangster, connected.
Hillary was so right about the deplorables.
You would ba amazed at the variety of people I know. Matter of fact, your picture looks a lot like an old friend of mine.
Does he believe it, or just use it as a convenient excuse?
You mean my avatar? Bitch Pudding from Robot Chicken?
Nah, your old one which you used to use. I took it as a selfie, and I'm not kidding when I said you remind me of an old friend of mine. She too was very outspoken, very determined in her opinions, and didn't give a fuck who didn't like it! It was for this that her and I got along so well.
I swear, you two could be twins!
Indeed, that is what a lot of people do. Two year college then off to a 4 year for a degree. A 6 or 8 year degree in just about everything is painfully expensive. I am all for giving students a break but just telling them they can go to college for free, for me anyway, is a non-starter.
Funny how some think we'll commit suicide over this scumbag. No way in hell.
The most glaring fact about Donald Trump is that he is personally corrupt. His entire life is littered with pervasive personal corruption, and it has carried forward big time into his presidency.
When the national leader is so corrupt, the national self-image and the image we present to other nations is poisoned.
If Trump is re-elected after the overwhelming evidence of corruption and wrong doing by him and on his behalf, the United States of America will no longer be a great people.
and it has carried forward into his Presidency bigly...
And yes, dishonest Donald is made of pure corruption. That's what often happens to kids handed nearly half a billion dollars in their early 20's. In America, money has almost always equaled power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dirty dishonest Donald has left nothing but wreckage in his wake since being given over $400 million by dear old daddy. He's run at least half a dozen businesses into the ground, run at least two marriages into the ground and cheated on his current wife multiple times (apparently he likes his women without a spine even though he has criticized Hillary for not leaving Bill after his infidelities), has been accused of sexual assault by at least two dozen women, been accused of raping a 13 year old along with convicted pedophile Jeff Epstein who he called a "Terrific guy" who he said was "a lot of fun to be with" and likes his women on "the younger side", has himself admitted he doesn't even 'wait" for consent" he just starts "kissing them" and said he likes to "grab them by the pussy". That is the fat, balding ball of orange corruption that many evangelicals, white nationalists and white supremacists agree is their choice for President of the United States.
"Sometimes when you're with the same old people, you get the same old thing."
Dave Davies
Trump was Elected, because he wasn't a "Political D.C. Inbred".
Folks are tired of the "Political D.C. Inbred" !
The "Political D.C. Inbred" gave us Trump on a "Silver Platter" !
Partially true. While I don't know any billionaires, I have certainly heard of a few that are relatively polite and, "nice". I think it's important to remember that people who are born into wealth do not see the world the same way as most. Some never learn to drive, change the oil in a car, have to cook a meal or do dishes or have to go to Wal-Mart on a Sunday, deal with a fussy baby and last but not least, be told "no". Things like that are never an issue. So to a point, yes I do agree. I would add that anyone who has even a shred of empathy, knows when they are being an asshole.
If success is based on how much you have in the bank, then yes, I would argue that trump has had success as a businessman. The flip side of that coin? He lost a billion dollars in one year and bankrupted a casino. A chimpanzee with a lobotomy could make money running a casino. Six bankruptcies and 3000+ lawsuits for fraud, his charity shut down for fraud. There are a lot of components to being successful, it's not just about "not going broke", or, "making fat stacks of cash".
Trump actually did take donations in his 2016 run. After he said he was self funded, I looked at his campaign page and there were no less than 4 "donate here" buttons on that page. He did take donations in his 2016 campaign, and knowing trump the way we all do, do you really think trump would turn up his nose at free money? No, he never would.
The reality is that running a presidential campaign is painfully expensive. Donations are how the vast majority of campaigns are funded, that's just reality. If there were no donations, all we would ever have is super rich candidates, which in my opinion, is part of the problem with our government in the first place.
He is from the same generation that my dad did. Man works, wife runs the house and raises kids. That's the same generation where a male, with a house payment, car payment and a job could support a family of four with the wife not working and STILL have enough to send all 4 kids to college. To sum it up? That shit simply isn't possible anymore unless the earner is bringing home 3-500k a year. The vast majority of American families are 2 earner families, and those with kids still struggle to send their kid(s) to even a community college. But more to your point.... My mom and dad were married for 60 years, (until she passed away 12 years ago), never once did I ever see my dad treat my mother with any disrespect. They would argue and fight from time to time like normal couples will, but my dad was always respectful to my mom. I think trumps attitude towards women is learned behavior. I cannot remember donny even mentioning his mother. I don't know why that it is but my suspicion is that his father probably treated her as more a servant than a spouse, and donny just treats women the same way his father did.
Nothing wrong with tooting your own horn from time to time. We all do it. But trump really takes it to a level that is so laughable, I, (as much as I cannot stand trump), almost feel sorry for him when he says things like, "I know more about drone technology than anyone", (that one was my personal favorite). He does this all the time, and when he does it, you can see people behind him, his own people, rolling their eyes.
Most people when they brag like that, know inside that they are just bragging and don't know more than anyone about anything. The problem here is that trump's ego is so big, he literally believes that he knows more about drone tech than anyone. To him, it's not bragging, it's a statement of fact and for me, that's a problem. I cannot support someone that is so ego driven he will literally double and triple down on a lie JUST to protect his ego. Trump has been quoted as saying, "I never blame myself, I always blame someone else." That''s the same as saying, "I never take responsibility for anything I say or do, I always lie my way out of it, or, blame someone else." As your neighbor down the street, you can easily say, "meh, big deal..", but as a world leader, that's a HUGE problem.
Good article nonetheless. I can't see I agree with all of it, but certainly some of it I do agree with. Thanks for posting it.
Let's not forget that little Rally for Veterans fiasco. He had a rally the same night he was supposed to debate the other republicans (if I recall correctly) to raise money for some veteran's group. And it took months for him to give that money to that group.
He's a thoroughly, evil, corrupt bastard and when he dies, he will take over Hell. Watch out, Satan!
Not one redeeming quality in that fat sack of waste of flesh whatsoever.
Let me ask you an honest question. If you play the lottery and win the big one, which would you do? Lump sum or annuities?
what has that got to do with the fact he had to be coerced to giving that money to that veteran's group?
With Democrats clamoring for the rich to pay yet more in taxes, I would take the lump sum to protect as much of it as I could from their greedy hands.
Who knows what tax rates will be if Dems get their way with Medicare-for-all, free college, and free childcare?
It's a deflection and an apparent attempt to pretend there was a valid, honest reason for the delay.
Notice the silence from Jim to his deflection.
So it went over your head(s). The difference is the money can be spoon fed or, the "collector" may wait until all the money is in and disperse it all once compiled. Why would a fund raiser feed small checks for said months. That costs more.
that's not the point, Jim, and you know it
Yes I do. I KNOW what your point was As do most in the hallowed halls of NT. I was offering a scenario. My customers hate piece meal shipments and would rather wait for the whole order to be filled/shipped. Saves them and us unnecessary paperwork as well as shipping costs.
We're done
The intent was never to feed small checks over a period of months, but to provide one large check. Which he didn't do until the lack of payment was publicized, although the funds had been there for a long time. Your BS excuse for him is just that, BS.
The lengths you will go to, to justify every corrupt thing he does ... like using his corrupt charity as a personal slush fund and having to pay $2 million in damages, and defrauding all those students and having to pay over $30 million ... but I'm sure you will make up some bullshit excuse so you can continue to justify to yourself why you support such a crook.
Don't be silly, what's the cost of writing a check and overnighting it? Less than $50 ? There were only 30 charities chosen.
Surely candidate Trump could absorb that after insisting that he gave a million of his own money away in March.
The fund raiser was January 28 and the campaign began stonewalling immediately.
One of Trump's favorite funds is the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation which received a contribution from the fundraiser in March, for $100,000. Trump has traditionally worked with them to raise 2 to 3 million annually. The fund provides scholarships for the children of fallen Marines.
When the press started pressing for proof of the candidate Trump's very clear claims of distributing $6 million in funds
including $1million of his own cash,
there was a sudden spurt of overnight mailing on May24 to more than 15 charities
including a personal check to the Marine Corps LEF for an additional cool $1 million.
The optics were terrible. It looked like a WAPO reporter shamed the Trump campaign into action.
It also looked like Corey Lewandowski and others in the campaign were sitting on the cash and lying about it.
No it just wasn't a good analogy. Neither is your second analogy to best business practices.
The fund raiser was for charities who provide services to Veterans in dire need, not parts of appliances or whatever.
I run a charity and we raised almost $11,000 for the National Kidney Foundation at my golf tournament in October. A couple of weeks after, once the checks had cleared and I had the final balance, I wrote a check for well over $10k. Over the next month, the few people who had promised to contribute but who weren't at the tournament gave me their checks. It cost me what ... 50 cents? - to mail each of those separately the day I got each of them. Of course, I didn't mingle that money with any campaign funds or other unethical stuff like Trump did - I have a separate bank account for the charity and it NEVER touches anything personally related to me, and vice versa.
Trump's wealthy friends donated huge checks that same day he had the rally, just as I got the bulk of my funds the day of the tournament. So Just Jim can't try the bullshit that the bulk of the money came trickling in over months via the website, as the next excuse for Trump's behavior. AT THE RALLY Trump announced they had cracked $6 million.
Damn, again over your heads. Does the Muscular Dystrophy start sending checks at the end of the telethon? Nope. They have to wait for pledges to come in. One can say "We raised you a million dollars." but if some of the pledges were bogus and never received, said million could be a percentage of that total. You have to have the money to disperse the money and I sure as hell would think that the fund raiser OR charity(s) (someone mentioned thirty) would need to know the actual money coming in. They can't take the word of all of the pledges and just start sending everyone their percentage if they don't know what the actual total is. The disbursements weren't all equal. Some got more than others and if you give charity 1 through 25 theirs, there may not be any left to meet the agreed upon dollar amount.
You'd better read up on this, your comments are getting sillier. A small group of his wealthy friends gave the bulk of the $6 million. He had the money a few days later and was not waiting for pledges. Most of it was NOT raised by his website (which, by the way - websites these days don't do pledges, you pay on the spot with PayPal, credit card, etc. - so the money would have cleared in a short period of time).
But keep up being the poster child for rationalizing Trump's corruption.
...............based on pledges.
Did you know as the tournament was progressing that that was going to be the total? By your next few statements, you didn't for sure because some of the money came trickling in by your own admission.
And you raised money for ONE entity. the NKF. It's a hell of a lot easier with one recipient that with thirty or more. See 5.1.14
Oh, please. You're embarrassing yourself. You may idolize Trump but it doesn't require you go to so such inane lengths to pretend he has any ethics or morals.
When the tournament ended, I knew exactly how much we had raised and what I owed the golf course, and knew I had 2 people who had said they'd give me $250 and $150, respectively. Neither of them was able to make the tournament after all. So, I didn't include the $400 in the total and I sent what I had to the NKF once the checks (for the bills I paid and the checks I received) had been paid. Then I sent the other two checks when I got them.
Trump claimed just a few days after his event that they had topped $6 million, and most of those were LARGE checks (500k, $1 million) from his friends, not money trickling in over the months. And Trump announced who would get the money - it was when journalists contacted the supposed recipients and found out they had NOT gotten the money that Trump finally paid up. So stop the bullshit.
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Sorry, Jim, I get your point but your not getting mine.
The Trump campaign co-mingled donations for the Vets and deposited the money in interest bearing accounts to earn interest that went to the campaign.
The Campaign was sued and lost in court in November of 2019 with a NY Supreme Court judge assessing a $2million fine
to be distributed to the same 30 charities.
Look who is comparing apples to spare tires.
Keep digging dude
So Trump evidently was full of bluster once again. Doesn't mean anything was withheld and the final tally, spread over the number of charities, could only be determined after.
But you guys carry on with your "But Trump" closed minded expert opinions.
Yes, as previously noted, over half of the funds, including Mr. Trump's personal check to MC-LEF for a million
were post marked May 24,2016 and mailed out overnight express,
your article was published May, 31, 2016.
Apparently several courts disagreed about the withholding part and the case found it's way to the NY Supreme Court which determined that
President Trump and his campaign owed the charities involved another $2million.
That is pretty undeniable proof that the campaign did many improper things, don't you agree?
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So which is better, a rat or an ass for a mascot???
I'll go with "ASS".
I'll at least touch a nice "ASS" from time to time.