Why Trump is letting a corrupt Democrat out of prison
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Why Trump is letting a corrupt Democrat out of prison
FEBRUARY 18, 2020
“I’ve got this thing, and it’s f---ing golden,” said then-Governor Rod Blagojevich of Illinois in 2008, referring to his ability to fill the Senate seat of President-elect Barack Obama. “And I’m just not giving it up for f---ing nothing.”
We know this because Blagojevich’s phone was being tapped by the FBI; his efforts to get personal benefit in exchange for that Senate seat made up some of the multiple counts of bribery and extortion that resulted in his conviction and 14-year sentence. But now, a savior has ridden to Blagojevich’s rescue :
Trump told reporters before boarding Air Force One that he had commuted the sentence of Blagojevich, noting he’d seen Blagojevich’s wife advocate for him on television and that the Democrat had appeared on “Celebrity Apprentice.”“He’ll be able to go back to his family after serving eight years in jail, which was a powerful and ridiculous sentence in my opinion,” Trump said.
Why would Trump do this? After all, Blagojevich was a Democrat, and not a longtime friend who was convicted of crimes in Trump’s service, like Roger Stone (though there was that predictably pathetic four-episode run he had on “Celebrity Apprentice” while awaiting trial). Was the president motivated only by his strong sense of justice?
Maybe somewhat (and before your jaw drops, I’ll explain). But there’s a strategy at work too, one that relates directly to this fall’s election.
Given everything we’ve seen from the president, it’s almost certain that Trump sincerely believed Blagojevich’s sentence was unfair. So he tried to shake down a children’s hospital, using state funding as a way to extort campaign contributions. What’s the big deal? That’s just shrewd dealmaking. Would we really want to live in a world where public officials can’t wet their beaks?
But more than that, what Trump is really after is the normalization of corruption. The fact that Blagojevich was a Democrat makes it all the better. Trump would never argue that Republicans are clean and Democrats are dirty; he wants to convince you that everyone is dirty. In fact, it’s a key part of his reelection strategy.
In politics we often argue that some misdeed a politician commits will make thereafter make it impossible for them to criticize their opponents for doing something similar. In this view, hypocrisy is something to be avoided, since it is assumed to be politically damaging. But Trump always operated on exactly the opposite principle: Not only can I accuse my opponents of the very thing I’m guilty of, it’s even better if I’m guilty of it.
So this spectacularly corrupt candidate accused his 2016 opponent of being “crooked.” The man who had been accused of various degrees of sexual misconduct and assault by two dozen women held a news conference with women who had made similar accusations against Bill Clinton. And the president who appointed his own daughter and son-in-law to key White House positions argues that it’s just awful that Joe Biden’s son got to sit on a corporate board while his father was vice president.
The point was never to say that he was innocent. It was to say that everyone’s guilty.
If you believe that, Trump’s own behavior no longer seems aberrant, nor does it mean you shouldn’t vote for him. The worldview Trump wants us to accept is one in which there are no rules, no morals, and no principles that must be obeyed.
This applies to more than just corruption. You may recall the time in 2017 Trump defended Vladimir Putin’s habit of having his critics murdered by saying “There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?” His argument was not that killing is wrong and we should clean up our own act, but that Putin shouldn’t be condemned because killing is a fact of life.
It’s critical to understand that this is also a demobilization strategy for 2020, one that Trump will use on whoever the Democratic nominee is. Begin with Trump’s assumption, probably correct, that his base of support is so loyal and so moved by fear and hatred that they will come to the polls no matter what.
With their participation secured, Trump can move to convince other people not to vote at all, by trying to convince everyone to be as disillusioned as possible.
The most cynical ideas about politics — all politicians are crooks, government is never used to benefit ordinary people — not only support the broader conservative view and undermine Democrats who try to convince people that government can be a force for good, they’re particularly beneficial to Trump himself.
Why get angry about him pressuring a foreign government to help his campaign, or trying to give himself a multimillion-dollar federal contract, or using the Justice Department like a crew of personal enforcers? Everybody does it, and nothing will change. Might as well stay home on Election Day.
This is also why Trump will go after his opponent with claims meant specifically to make Democratic voters withdraw in disgust and decide not to vote. As Amanda Marcotte argues , “The strategy for doing this will be to attack the Democratic nominee from the left, by accusing that person of being racist, sexist, corrupt or, most likely, some combination of the three.”
Trump won’t care if liberals call him a hypocrite for doing so. Isn’t everybody a hypocrite? All the more reason to wash your hands of the whole thing.
Watching Trump commute Blagojevich’s sentence is enough to make you feel like the system is beyond help. Which is exactly what Trump wants you to feel.
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Trump wants to drag the world down to his level of low morality. Some have already succumbed.
"Watching Trump commute Blagojevich’s sentence is enough to make you feel like the system is beyond help. Which is exactly what Trump wants you to feel."
... and drug dealing is fine by Obama's final day day release of 330 offenders. That guy played hit and run.
Another tired old 'whataboutism' for whataboutism sake. Let what ever right or wrong done by Trump with "Blago" and those others stand on its own merits, or fail by the same. Trying to make odious the release of drug offenders who routinely are in some sense ordinary people caught up in bad situations of life, compare to people who were highly skilled and highly positioned in life simply fails. Emphatically.
Let what Obama did stand on its merits. Let what Trump is currently doing stand on its merits too!
Well, why worry about morality today when it didn't matter then? The left's outrage is as phony as show tits. You aren't outraged, you're just pissing for fun.
Oh morality matters. What presidents do matter. My point to you is there is no true connection here coming from Trump to Obama. So why attempt one? Trump is always making it clear that he wishes nothing from Obama, except to outdo him (if possible).
Bottom line is it is just one more reason for the hard core left to demonize Trump. If they cannot find something, they have zero problem simply inventing it.
Who is demonizing Trump? The Republic Party since the 80's has went out on the limb to brand itself as the so-called, "Republican Party of morals." Republicans associated themselves with the "Moral Majority" in the 1980's and national right-wing evangelicals churches. Jerry Falwell Jr. and the evangelicals talk about moral absolutism and now are standing arm and arm with an amoral controversial president whose everyday existence is moral relativism (in one of its worse forms). Who is demonizing Trump? Better yet tell me what happened to moral absolutism that used to be an important brand in the Republican Party?
Trump has no problem with demonizing himself. All the press has to do is point the cameras. No inventing necessary. Trump is his own worst enemy.
In this particular instance, I agree with your above post.
Is that what the 'son of a bitch' obama did when he released more than the last 7 Presidents combined?
Obama had the most commutations, but nowhere the most pardons.
When Trump ends up commuting more sentences than Obama did, I have a funny feeling you won't mind at all.
You lose all credibility when all you are armed with are lies and insults. tRump has more scandals than Bush and Obama combined and it is not even close.
I know sometimes when in a rush to tell someone what they think you don't actually read what they said. The 'son of a bitch' obama released more people from prison than the last 7 presidents combined, I't might hurt your feeling, it might ruin your talking points, but it still doesn't change the fact that it is true.
I didn't agree with the 'son of a bitch' obama when he did it and I don't agree with President Trump either. Cuz see I'm not a TDS sufferer and I stick to my beliefs. When you committed the crime you knew the consequences.
There really should be some sense of fairness, degrees, and proportionality to these kinds of exchanges. The rule that what is true of one thing in one set of circumstances is not necessarily true of another thing in another set of circumstances.
I say let each thing sat on its own 'bottom.'
2016
Credit to source:
For context and perspective. Please note the % of requests granted by the last two Presidents vs the total requsts.
In all fairness, the Obama Administration received far more requests than any other President.
Of course, the Obama Administration asked for those requests.
Still doesn't change the fact that the 'son of a bitch' obama released more people from prison than the last 7 presidents combined. Well we will call it 6 because we are not counting him right?
I couldn't give a shit about your cut and paste left wing news article. I stand by my convictions.
So are you here defending President Trumps decision I take it?
Yes, they did.
And it looks remarkably similar to Mr. Trumps EO and First Step Act to reduce Federal prison populations.
Your point is dead on the issue. And if I am correct, the Obama Administration followed established procedures for the vetting and releasing of prisoners from their sentences!
You don't give a "shit" right? So miss me with your convictions. Have a nice whatever.
And how do you know that Mr. Trump and his advisors didn't do the same? You don't.......................
Well save your cut and paste bullshit for someone who cares, Was it a attempt to excuse the 'son of a bitch' Obama's behavior as being better than President Trumps? You always seem to have a issue with my posts but yet you can't help yourself posting ridiculous stuff to me. Try the ignore feature.
What I highlighted is the most important part. Non-Violent. Drug. Offenders. And no prior history of violence.
I really don't have a problem with the felons that Obama commuted sentences for
I'm curious. How do you know those he pardoned did not have ties to gangs or cartels? The most sentences given were convicted of drug offenses, which could have had gang or cartel ties.
I have not insinuated Trump did not. On the otherhand, how do you know that Trump is not acting on one of his self-serving impulses? Trump has a well-known pattern or shooting first then properly aim.
Before you question me; get a fact-check on your 'boy' verified. Then, bring it home.
You can try the ignore feature. Does yours work? Do you have fingers?
Have a nice whatever!
And that was President Obama's point for doing this. There are plenty criminals in jail under questionable laws and sentences scattered throughout this great land. Even "projects" were popping up to contend on this one or that group of ones behalf! Moreover, drug laws were changing in pockets all across the country-so letting people 'rot' in jail overlong itself was questionable and in some cases not "meet" for the system.
That is what President Obama was hoping to help: the person, the life, the system.
I don't know what is at the heart of Trump's actions in this scenario. But Trump's pattern is to do self-serving crap. That I do know for sure.
My issue arises when some of the usual suspects pull that "whataboutism" shit as if they are owed a we can pour bullpoop over your heads because we imagine (or just will claim) you did it to us once! The hell they say! I won't let them more jack on me!
(Smile - Hi TG!)
I wouldn't ignore you CB, why would I do that? I find your post Hillaryious.
Still suffering from HDS, I see. Must be strange to have her live in your head for so long after she lost the election.
Since you won't just do it - then, take it any way you can. When it comes, open wide, trust me it's only 'medicine' for the soul!
I wouldn't know anything about that but I'll trust your experience in the matter.
What are you talking about? The seed is about Trump, as usual, do try to keep up.
If you want I can post a seed about Hillaryious Hillary still crying about losing a election? I could do that for you.
That is the job of the Pardon Attorney of the Justice Department.
One can also turn the statistics around and note that Mr. Obama denied the most requests for commutations and pardons. 34,617 denials 95% denial rate.
As a matter of fact, the unchanged petition form remains on the DOJ, Pardon Attorney's web pages.
So apparently this Administration approved of the program also.
I'm sure you don't.
They just haven't trashed her kid yet.
Really great point. Emphatically!
Your very first sentence the main reason I don't trust leftist liberals! Too bad you got it backwards.
Well. I for one don't give a a shit, as you say, about your convictions either.
As much as he may state otherwise, President Trump, like President Obama were both reacting to the same
"unintended consequences" to the "3 strike" policy of President Clinton and his policies.
Your ODS is laughable as you constantly deride others for their TDS.
Just pointing out the obvious...........
Have a great night!
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Likewise.
But wait how are you defending CB here? Obama good....baaa baaa Trump bad baaa baaaa
What that you are just another apologist for "son of a bitch' obama?
I did not have that problem.
I think the New York Times may have finally got something right. This morning they attributed the 11 pardons to the President's shared sense of persecution.
11 Pardons and the Times using logic - It's been a unique few days!
It's not persecution when you're guilty.
That's correct. Since Trump feels persecuted when he's called out for doing the wrong things, or pretty much even when the wind blows, he is trying to normalize the behavior to make us overlook all the things he does. White collar criminals are being punished for their crimes - it's so unfair! Since Trump is also a white collar criminal (the fraudulent university and fraudulent charity being just the tip of the iceberg, with the "unfair" $33 million he had to pay for screwing the little people over), he can easily relate to other white collar criminals.
i don't understand why they are not punished far worse than say, White collar criminals, but, MONEY, and it's pull in politics with our corrupted and bought pols, just might begin to explain the hypocrisy, unless attempting to explain it to most all Republicans, and even many of the bette off Dems.
Our system is broken.
Sad, but True, in my non ferrous eyes
"it's not ____________but who you know"
whence "Holier than Thou"
And how often you appear on Fox, in Trump's case.
Amazing how much influence Fox and it's completely biased agenda, has upon our malleable minded governing from behind it , over malnourished, under achieving unless deceiving, over the top of a flop flop fizzling glutinous jello pop pop on Fifth Avenue shot into his vane, so asz he's become too insane to have to explain junkie bondage kings and other White Collar Things to his Blue collar flunkies who can't hear his dog whistle thing, as it rings, around their blew collar they can't swallow with heads so hollow,
like his stump,
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speech.
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or, somethin like that
Well, studies have shown that most people who watch Fox don't get news from any other sources. Makes it all the easier to brainwash and fool them. They choose willful ignorance and that's what they get, unfortunately for our country.
i've heard that watchers of Fox are less educated than non news watchers, and from what i've observed round hear, Sad but True, yet again
It is when the other side cannot always prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but keeps trying anyway.
Blogojevich has been proven to be corrupt to the core. There is no reasonable doubt here, the guy is an example of the very worst kind of politician. Trump commuting the sentence of this scumbag is unethical, irresponsible and politically stupid.
Other than Blagojevich stroking Trump's ego with a letter, what is the basis for this action?
Because Blagojevich committed the same kind of crimes that Trump has - and Trump is trying to normalize that behavior.
Blagojevich is far worse so he is a good case for Trump to try to make himself look like a saint. You might be right here katrix. But it is a dumb political move if Trump is just trying to appeal to hyper-partisans on the D side while upsetting his own base. Truly amazingly stupid and incorrect move by Trump.
LOL.
Would you rather have Blagojevich as PotUS?
John, if (and it seems so to me) you hold that Trump is the worst possible person or even merely the worst possible PotUS then I suggest you reconsider your analytical method and/or criteria.
I have been at a loss for how to explain your blase attitude toward Trump for a long time now.
He has lied to the public thousands of times, since taking office, the exact figure resting on how one categorizes repeat lies , half truths , and nonsensical 'exaggerations'.
Of course I would rather have Blagojevich if those were the only two choices. I am sure he could be persuaded to stop his conduct if it were shown to him that it was damaging the country. Trump thinks he IS the country.
Trump has tried, twice now, to cheat at the national election for president. He sends Secret Service business to his own hospitality properties. Half his original cabinet had to resign in disgrace for self dealing.
He is an ignoramus, a liar, a crook , and a bigot. Plus he is a conspiracy nut who regularly listens to and takes advice from the dregs of our political system.
You have to be kidding.
I don't know. Since other presidents have abused the power of pardon - think of Clinton's "pardongate" - while this might upset Trump's base, the fact that past presidents began the precedent of using their pardons to reward their cronies will tamp down any major outrage. Most people will agree that it sucked, just as they agreed that many other pardons have sucked, and we'll bitch about how it needs to change, and the politicians will refuse to change it ... and there we are.
Simple, you do not recognize anything other than hyper-extreme negative. If someone does not write bat-shit crazy rhetoric on Trump you think they are a supporter.
The very first comment you ever made to me on this site was in response to me making a critical comment on Trump. You criticized me for not being sufficiently extreme in my language. Nothing has changed.
The problem lies with your analytical method / criteria.
How does this benefit Trump? His base will not see this as good. His opponents will not warm up to him because he commuted the sentence of a D con-man. Seems like a bad move to me.
I thought the same thing.
Blagojevich is far worse, my ass
Your conclusion that Blagojevich is way worse than Trump would be funny were I not convinced you actually believe it.
Your blase attitude toward Trump is what it is, as they say. It's not my problem, I just comment on it.
Seems very much like you have a problem with any and all who aren't as full of hate for Trump as you seem to be. You call people out all day long if they aren't as vocal in their expression of hate for Trump as you are. You accuse anyone of not jumping on your bandwagon of being a Trump supporter or responsible for Trump in some way.
Saying you don't have a problem with that is ludicrous and false based on your very own multiple posts.
Then you would indeed prefer to see Blagojevich as PotUS rather than Trump.
Same question. Would you prefer to have Blagojevich as PotUS instead of Trump?
You two tend to have a communication breakdown .
Believe TiG sees Blish as, yes, a bigger 'personal' failure than Trump.
TiG can correct if my deduction was deduced incorrectly, for as to me, they both induce vomiting!
Well, I would strongly prefer not to see either of them, and I am quite confident the Democrats would never nominate a Rod Blagojevich.
But if it had to be one or the other , yes I would take Blago. Trump is worse in a laundry list of ways. A long laundry list,
that will be your first and last comment here that is solely about me
at least work blago and trump into it or the next one will be deleted as off topic
Seems to me, John would support any scumbag as PotUS over Trump.
I am not a fan of emotional reasoning. Especially when it leads to aggression against those who also do not support Trump.
In short, it is counterproductive to attack those who are against Trump but fail to reach one’s desired level of shrill, bat-shit crazy rhetoric.
Yup, thought so.
I specifically mention Trump 4 times in my post.
If you prefer Blago to Trump, more power to ya!
I do not have emotional reasoning. I have overwhelming evidence. You can reject the evidence and remain blase, or you can accept the evidence. It doesnt really matter to me, I just comment on it.
Trump is not fit to hold high office. That is not an emotional conclusion, it is the conclusion drawn by millions of people from simple observation of his behavior and reading of material about him. Those who are not fit for office should not be in office, let alone campaigning for another four year term.
If you would like me to bury this forum with the evidence Trump is not fit for office, I suppose I could do that.
As I said on a few other seeds, there is a group of "never trumpers" known now as the Lincoln Project who are encouraging everyone to vote for the democrat for president , no matter who the candidate is, and that includes Sanders or Warren.
Are these 'Lincoln Project' folks all over emotional too?
lol.
Its benefit to Trump is, again, to normalize this type of behavior - since Trump engages in the same type of thing.
I recognize (and acknowledged) the argumentative benefit. I am now focusing on the political benefit. I do not see it.
You would have to go a ways down the list of scumbags to find someone worse than the worst president in the 240 year history of this country.
Voted you up----but---"a bad move." ? ? Nah, with the Trumpian base and the Trumpian philosophy the concept of 'The Stormy Who' is the template of it's success.
I don't see it either. But as I mentioned, Trump doesn't exactly think before he acts, so there may well have been no expected political benefit.
I see three reasons.
First and foremost , Trump likes playing god.
Blagojevich's wife has been on Fox News numerous times more or less pleading with trump to let her husband go. Trump is like the pharaoh or an ancient king exercising his divine right to be merciful.
His ego is the main driver of this, but it also sets up other pardons down the road, possibly including his own.
Thirdly he wants to, as the article says, normalize corruption as something not that bad and as something otherwise good guys get over penalized for.
That is merely your perception.
Trump did what ALL Presidents do--grant pardons or commutations.
A President can not pardon himself, so that point is flat out ridiculous. Any President can pardon for virtually any reason or none at all--and it has BEEN that way. There needn't BE any precedent beyond what all other Presidents have done.
just an opinion---and we ALL have them.
That's a huge part of it.
Yup, Trump seems to think he is the smartest person on the planet and thus fails to take seriously the advice of his advisors. If he did, he would have them review/edit his tweets (one example).
If he ever does get convicted of anything, it will be interesting to see if he gets away with pardoning himself - he's just arrogant enough to do it, as he has said he might. Before, I would have said there's no way it would stand - but these days, I'd hesitate to claim that any checks and balances will actually happen.
Oh, FFS.
A President can NOT pardon himself.
Where do y'all GET this stuff from?????????
Perhaps you failed to note when Trump specifically stated that he has the power to pardon himself? His arrogance knows no bounds - and he thinks his power doesn't have any bounds, either. So far it's working out well for him.
I did note that. he was wrong.
I suppose the difference is that I recognize when someone says something wrong, it doesn't make it a fact that he can do something.
Hope all learn that someday, but I am not confident based on replies here.
the very simple fact is--no matter what anyone says--a President may not pardon himself.
And if you think he can, we are done, I can't argue something so completely stupid.
I recognize that it is wrong as well - but from Trump's own actions, I have little reason to doubt him when he says that HE believes he has the power to do it. He does not feel that any boundaries exist when it comes to his power. Therefore he is very likely to follow up as he said he might, if he gets convicted of anything. His impulses lead his behavior. Just because something is wrong does NOT mean he won't do it, as he has repeatedly proven to the dismay of his advisors.
Your President is the one who is stupid and believes that he can pardon himself, and said that he might do it. Take it up with him.
Once again--I am not responsible for whatever it is you choose to believe. If one is gullible enough, I can see where they MIGHT actually think a President can pardon himself, but I will go with the law on this and leave you to your own opinion.
Right along that same vein of "He's going to"......................
Mr. Trump throws shit out there to see if it sticks. That's his MO. Until someone says he can't and proves it without any doubt, he will go forward...................If the libs don't recognize that by now............
or he could resign a week before term is up, and have Pence pardon him...?
Whether he pardons himself, or gets some flunky to pardon him, what difference does it make?
He obviously wants the scent of pardons in the air, and since everything this man does is for his own benefit we are drawing the logical conclusion.
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I have never stated that I think a president can pardon himself. What I said is that Trump might try to do it anyway - which HE HIMSELF stated. He himself said he has the power to do just that.
It's rather stupid to underestimate Trump's impulsive and autocratic nature. But hell, his supporters wanted someone who would destroy all the norms, right? This would be just one more of those norms.
Thanks for supporting my comment. I agree about him being likely to try pardoning himself if he gets convicted, to see if it will stick. It's the normal shit he flings.
Nixon would have pardoned himself on his way out the door instead of relying on Ford to take the political hit for doing it. And that one really was in the best interest of the country
That would be the more likely option, although with his arrogance and impulses, you just never know.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. This is what Donald Trump means when he says he is smart. He means he studies how to have his way with others.
You see this diabolical genius at work in his head. I see him too. Trump works angles. It's the 'con.' You get in-you get on-you get out. If possible before the 'mark' or 'marks' can see the swerve or loss ahead.
This is why I am inclined toward Mr. Bloomberg, because I can see Mr. Bloomberg's angle. He appears to be a no-bullshit player; understands the greater the risk the bigger the reward; and he has determined Donald Trump needs to be taken down a peg this year so the proper authorities can get at that "A."
Mr. Bloomberg wants to make an example out of Trump's 'dirty,' by booting in out into the street before it can wash up properly. I will be watching this debate with my
on. Mr. Bloomberg show us "the electricity!"
Your screed was still all about John. Why don't you try focusing on the topic instead of other posters for a change?
All good things come to an end in some cases. This presidency needs to come to a close. Donald Trump is a most dangerous man, because he does not respect anything or anybody but himself. Mark my words, if it comes down between the nation or getting cross with Trump, he will most definitely see people get hurt on his account.
Because Blago actually came out and called himself a trumpocrat. trmp hears this and thinks "hey! I won one Democrat over! Maybe I can win a lot more!"
Of course, I could just be talking out of my big toe. I could never understand the mind of a trmp.
We, liberals, don't need or want you to 'Trump-whisper' do us. So far, you republicans (all of you damn near) have sat on your hunches and let this one tired old man trample the liberties of other citizens and wish to be citizens of this country. So now you want to tell us that you're not down with him tramping once AGAIN on the constitution by tying up in litigation another ill-detailed meaning in the Constitution? Following the track record of what you all readily do to appease this tired old president of yours, we need not have any faith in you, him, or the system at this point. The 'degree of separation' is what is worthy of consideration, not fake commentary by fans of the man!
Trusting republicans and conservatives going forward is the very definition of insanity!
Dirty Donald also used to call himself a Democrat until he realized they couldn't be bamboozled into voting for such a corrupt piece of crap like himself. Blago found out the same when Democrats turned on the slimy liar and threw him in jail for being a corrupt piece of crap just like dishonest Donald. They both realized that the Republican party was a far more welcoming place for scum like them where there is virtually no accountability.
His convictions will come after he leaves office, so he will not have the power to pardon himself.
Trump uses everybody. Blago will be in ads or guest speaker at the RNC nomination meeting this summer/early fall. Bet!
All wild speculation on your part. Flunky? So you think Pence is a flunky? And what would force Pence to give a pardon if your hypothetical situation were to occur?
Every President has commuted sentences and granted pardons. Like with all things Trump with you, it is all right when others do it and some big calamity when Trump does it. You can't be anywhere near objective on anything to do with Trump. Your hatred blinds you to everything except fantasies and wild guesses.
Yet we have some lamebrained folks telling us that Trump is 'pure' as Polly Pure-bread. That stupid republican senate majority just 'shit-canned' Senator Romney because he could not and would not dishonor his concept of God over Trump's abuse of power. The republicans had a chance to get Trump's boot off its neck and it reacted: "No sir! Mo' pressure, pleez!"
The gall of some people to come in here and plead that cheater's and abuser's case! It is time for people to grow the heaven up! Donald Trump may be his supporters 'dream' but let me be clear in the end that man is no damn good for this country as a whole.
Trump does nothing for everybody. It's just his narrow slither of supporters that he models and "auditions" to. They are his reason for being on the world stage—alone! And he makes it plain that the rest of us could kiss his grits!
phfft.
Trump sold out to the republicans and conservatives wholly once he realized that democrats really, truly, and deeply loved President Obama. It cut him to the quick that birtherism fell flat on its ass and couldn't roll downhill with democrats giving it no traction in 2012.
That finished it for Donald. He wouldn't be able to take over the democrats - so why not go take over the republicans? They were sitting there stewing and ready-made for a soviet-styled autocratic takeover!
the last thing heard B4 a short n curly hits the floor...?
Yeah, I can see how Trump might think that. Takes a big ego and he certainly has that.
Absolutely.
No, that's the sound I heard when some liberal leftist removed his head from his ass.
Trumpp and the GOP have collectively lowered the collective IQ of America, and have actually proven US citizens to be in denial of the reality going on around them.
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Americans R FCKN STUPID !
Congratulations Repubs, cause i.m. oh so humble opine,
Trump and his R's have proven just how Ignorant and lost weak minded individuals can stray,
when they listen to only what they want to be heard said
by an ASS
they can't stop kissing.
Trump and his clump are a DISGRACE to America
true story:
By setting a dem free? Don't be so hard on yourself.
i don't give a flying underwater above ground FCK about whether BLISH was a DF or an R or an I , the J bag witheld MONEY TO SICK KIDS by extortion, tried to sell a Senatorial seat, had fckn ridiculous hair !
WTF, he's a scum bag, like TRUMPP, and was only chosen , just like the rest, because it somehow benefitts the J bag in Chief.
He's lubing you up, so he can do the same for his crooked cronies who were indicted by Mueller and Company for that 'Witch Hunt' that netted 199
what a joke R's have not been rated quadruple X
One of the few major bipartisan pieces of legislation has been the FIRST STEP Act for criminal justice reform passed and signed last December. The FIRST STEP Act emphasizes rehabilitation and re-entry into society. Presidential clemency for high profile convictions highlights the goals of the FIRST STEP Act. Clemency does not overturn a conviction; clemency reduces the sentence and allows the convicted individual to re-enter society. That is the goal of the FIRST STEP Act.
President Trump is beginning the process of implementing the FIRST STEP Act.
Why are his shoes tied together again?
At least he is wearing shoes instead of jackboots. Do Democrats want criminal justice reform or boogaloo?
Exactly. This is in line with his reform proposal. Gonna let 'em out for smoking weed, let 'em out, or at least reduce the time, for non violent white collar crimes AFTER they pay their fines..
i think the whole pardon moi, do you have any Grey Poupon, is just ridiculous in general, irregardless of who's doing it.
It should be abolished imho.
Trump has exposed MANY flaws in a system that most thought would never have tolerated his likes. The GOP has proven that they have not a spine, and frontal lobotomies weren't supposed to make a comeback yet.
Oh well. Republicans OWN this experiMENTAL known ASZ TRUMPP!
Yes, Trump has exposed many flaws in the system. Why are Democrats defending, protecting, and institutionalizing those flaws?
Democrats have hamstrung any President they elect. A Democratic President must obey the generals, the intelligence community, the Dept. of Justice, the State Dept., and the House without dissent. A Democratic President cannot obstruct Congress by exerting executive privilege. A Democratic President must give news organizations anything they ask for. Otherwise a Democratic President will be just like Trump.
Or will Democrats become as spineless as Republicans?
There are major differences between being a rebel and an outlaw. Trump is definitely an outlaw loner.
Is there?
Defenders of the status quo see an outlaw.
Trump is a divider who could give a damn about the nation coming together. So what is your point? I mean real point, not the fake comparison one.
Republicans seem united and energized. It's Democrats who are trying to create divisions among Trump's supporters while ignoring divisions within their own ranks. Democrats aren't even trying to unite their own party.
Investigating a President isn't about unifying the country. Impeaching a President isn't an exercise in unifying the country. If Democrats are trying to unite the country by convincing everyone to hate Trump then it isn't working.
That simply is not attached to any discussion we're having. How is republican unity around a cheating, lying, boisterous, loud-mouth who sits like a fat rooster on the head of this nation and by extension the world, good for anybody not republicans? Others role in this country is not simply to live to make republicans and conservatives joyous.
Indeed, Impeached President Donald J. Trump has a responsibility to work for the whole of the citizenry, which he shirks so as to appease uncompromising right-wing talk radio and tv hosts and conservative writers.
You want something to unify the people? Try rallying around the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
"Why Trump is letting a corrupt Democrat out of prison"
PRISON REFORM !
I thought Democrats liked that kinda stuff !
Most sentences are too long - especially at the federal level. We need more commutations, not less.
Why Trump is letting a corrupt Democrat out of prison
I guess my question is...Why add the word corrupt to the title of a seed describing a democrat?
For the most part, it's pretty much a given, right?
In all truth, he honestly had no idea it was a Democrat, the crime fit what Trump knows he himself is guilty of, so it was a message. A message that the law doesn't matter, a message that if anyone of his corrupt associates is guilty he will let them off.