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Senator Tom Cotton Ramps Up Anti-China Rhetoric, Says Chinese Students Should Be Banned From U.S.

  

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Via:  buzz-of-the-orient  •  4 years ago  •  108 comments

By:   Alexandra Sternlicht

Senator Tom Cotton Ramps Up Anti-China Rhetoric, Says Chinese Students Should Be Banned From U.S.

Next steps to be added to the Republican Playbook:  Round up all the Chinese Americans and put them in Internment Camps.  Ban the cooking and eating of Chinese food.   Hang a Chinaman from a tree.


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Senator Tom Cotton Ramps Up Anti-China Rhetoric, Says Chinese Students Should Be Banned From U.S.

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TOPLINE


In a Sunday morning interview on   Fox News , Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton shared his opinion that the global coronavirus pandemic was a “deliberate” and “malevolent” attack by Chinese government on the world, and that Chinese students “don’t need” visas to study science as he believes they will use this information to spy on the United States. 

KEY FACTS



In the interview with Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo, Cotton said that Chinese leaders wanted the virus to spread because “They did not want to see their relative power and standing in the world decline because the virus was contained,” within China.

Cotton said that “all the circumstantial evidence” points to COVID-19’s origination from a Wuhan laboratory in the Sunday interview; this comes after the World Health Organization’s Tuesday   statement   that coronavirus “likely” originated from animals, “most probably” bats. 

Staunch conservative Tom Cotton assumed office in 2015; he is a former U.S. army captain, Harvard Law-trained attorney and is pro-life, opposed to same sex marriage and   chairs   the Senate’s Economic Policy Subcommittee, Intelligence Committee, and the Air Land Power Subcommittee.

In arguing for a tougher relationship with China in the future, Cotton said that Chinese students should no longer be allowed to come to the U.S. to pursue certain areas of study: “It’s a scandal to me that we have trained so many of the Chinese communists,” he said. “If Chinese students want to come here and learn Shakespeare and the Federalist Papers—that’s what they need to learn from America; they don’t need to learn quantum computing and artificial intelligence from America.”


On April 25, Cotton and Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw wrote a   Fox News   op-ed saying that they introduced legislation that would “allow Americans to sue China in U.S. federal courts” for “‘death, injury, and economic harm caused by China’s reckless and reprehensible response to the COVID-19 outbreak.” 


CRITICAL QUOTE


“I’m skeptical of any promises made by any communist and the Chinese communists don't have a very good record of keeping their promises,” said Cotton.

KEY BACKGROUND


An already tense relationship between China and the U.S. has become quite complicated amid the pandemic. Right wing  leaders  and  media  have propelled the notion that COVID-19 spread from a lab in Wuhan, though the World Health Organization says it “likely” came from animals, not a lab. On Saturday, the Trump administration said that China is trying to steal coronavirus research,  reporting  cyberattacks on government agencies and medical institutions involved in combating the coronavirus crisis. Currently travelers who have been to China in the last 14 days, along with a slew of other countries, are   not allowed to enter  the United States.



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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

And if the Republicans win in November, reinstate the McCarthy Hearings.  Where is Roy Cohn when they really need him?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    4 years ago

Despite the rhetoric from the seeder regarding actual intent of America and Americans Senator Cotton and Representative Crenshaw are exactly right about what they say and how we should deal with the Communist Party of China.  There is no negative intent toward Chinese Americans  on the part of any Americans as a substantial number of them or their offspring came here from there after China went communist and many more trace their ancestry to people arriving from China in the mid 19th century.  There is no ill will here at all toward them.  There is no backlash against eating Chinese food take out from American Chinese restaurants.  Stop with the persecution complex.  There will be no internal camps like what China actually does have and no hanging anyone vigilante style.  There is no anger in America toward the Chinese people.  It’s all directed at Winnie the Pooh chairman for life Zi and the Chinese Communist Party. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.1  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    4 years ago
There is no negative intent toward Chinese Americans  on the part of any Americans as a substantial number of them or their offspring came here from there after China went communist and many more trace their ancestry to people arriving from China in the mid 19th century.  There is no ill will here at all toward them.  

First off you should really review your history on the treatment of Chinese in the US by the US government. 

Secondly ''no negative intent toward Chinese Americans on the part of any Americans'' is complete BS.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @1.1.1    4 years ago

Notwithstanding the China-haters' rhetoric, the truth is bound to come out.  I would be damned scared to be Chinese in the USA these days.  The crazies who carry out terrorism there have GUNS. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    4 years ago

Again no one here hates China or its people.  The communist party ruling the place and Winnie the Pooh for life and his gang of thugs is another matter.  Our contempt for them and their actions is sheer and utter.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.4  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    4 years ago

Do you have an emergency number we can call ? 

We need it now.

 
 
 
sixpick
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1.1.5  sixpick  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.4    4 years ago

You know Pat, we have a black man on a bus in Brooklyn NY spraying an Asian in a place that is loaded with right wingers, especially black ones, a man named Jose Gomez in Texas stabbing a family at at Sam's Club and an Asian student in Los Angeles bullied and beaten in the link Kavika put posted above. 

Seems everyone is ignoring the obvious, it's not the so-called right wingers or the people who love this country who may have instigated these crimes against Chinese people.  It's the same people who commit nearly all the crimes in this country, the thugs.

I don't approve of these acts and I expect neither do you, but I don't know anyone who would do anything like these thugs have done and I expect you can say the same thing.

Now I don't watch any of these stations, do you?  I suspect none of my friends pay much attention to them either.  I think these stations are mostly viewed by the people who call themselves Liberals or Democrat Socialists on this site.  I'm sure none of them would do anything like these thugs have done, but these bigots are the same all over the world.  They only want to cause division and basically destroy this country.

We just look at them and realize they are pretty stupid and bigots, of course.  I've found it to be the Left are the same all over the world and as Rahm Emanuel so famously said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste", the the Left accuse people of everything they are guilty of and take advantage of every crisis to push their agendas forward.  The Chinese Communist Party is the same way.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    4 years ago

That is exactly why gun sales to Asians have increased.  He wants Chinese students banned because they earn their admissions where he probably has to buy admission for his kids aka The Laughlin Method.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.6    4 years ago

Chinese students pay maximum tuition at American universities, so his suggestion will go over like a lead balloon with university administrations.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    4 years ago

We could be having them now as we have the senate and yet no such thing has happened.  

 
 
 
squiggy
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2  squiggy    4 years ago

Hang a Chinaman from a tree.

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XXJefferson51
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2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @2    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @2    4 years ago

Exactly!  Well said!  👍👏

 
 
 
Ender
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3  Ender    4 years ago

Cotton is an idiot.

I am beginning to think the US electorate are idiots as well when this buffoon still has a job.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3    4 years ago

That’s what we think of where Schumer, Cuomo, De Blasio and Pelosi still have jobs. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.1  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

Keep deflecting...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3.1.1    4 years ago

That’s what you are doing.  I already said that Cotton is correct in everything he said about the communist regime in China and its leader for life.  

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.3  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.2    4 years ago

He is an idiot that is pandering to the lowest form of thought.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @3.1.3    4 years ago

And recognizing the ignorance of those who support Trump, doing his best to incite them, cause xenophobia and racism, following the O'Donnell Republican playbook in order to desperatly keep the ignoramus in power. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.5  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.4    4 years ago

China seems to be the new boogieman now.

I guess with little rocketman out of the picture they need someone to go after.

Typical brain dead political ploy, declare an enemy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @3.1.5    4 years ago

But they're doing it for a purpose.  They're deathly afraid that Trump is going to lose in November.  They will stoop to anything, slither like snakes, to try to keep him in the W.H. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.7  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.6    4 years ago

Yep. That is why I call it a political ploy. When things are not going well declare an enemy. It works twofold in their case. It rallies the base as well as gives them talking points about opposition. They will run around and say, see the Dems are China commie loving people.

What happens though is the braindead that believe there is an actual enemy start to act out. We see it when attacks on Asian, Asian/American people rise.

It is dangerous as not only do attacks on other people rise, it harms any relations with the country.

If you notice though, every time there is an election there seems to be an enemy country to rail against or use as political fodder.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.8  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.4    4 years ago

Winnie the Pooh for life Zi is the ignoramus thug along with his central committee. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.11  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @3.1.10    4 years ago

At the beginning of his presidency I was thrilled with Obama, and at the end, when he stabbed Israel in the back, I despised him and still do. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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3.1.12  squiggy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.6    4 years ago
They will stoop to anything,

All Trump has to do is buy Biden fifteen minutes of air time.

 
 
 
sixpick
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3.2  sixpick  replied to  Ender @3    4 years ago

Sky News

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  • Overall, we rate Sky News Least Biased based on balanced news coverage and a reasonably balanced op-ed page. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to a reasonable fact check record.

I'm using mediabiasfactcheck.org knowing full well all their fact checks lean to the left.  Anytime you see that little yellow dot, just move it to the left a little and you will be more accurate and remove their bias from their fact check.

It's not the Chinese people we detest, it's the Chinese Communist Party.  Although life may seem to be wonderful for some in China, just let them post this video in China and see what happens to them.  We still have the freedom to speak our minds, if not always on this site, we have it in everyday life and in this country and that is something the Chinese Communist Party detest along with many of our friends on the Left in this country.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @3.2    4 years ago

Great post and right on in every respect.  👍👏

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @3.2    4 years ago

The deniers of the communist party of China’s complicity and guilt will turn their backs on New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and the U.K. as their media and political people reflect what is being said in America.  It is noted that the China regime did blackmail the EU into scaling back their critical report on the communist China spread virus.  

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2.3  Ender  replied to  sixpick @3.2    4 years ago

So what is your point? We cannot make the Chinese government into what we would consider our ideal anymore than we could Russia, India or Dubai.

Do you actually think our own government always tells us the truth? One would have to be living under a rock to think that.

All of this new found hate is only to place blame.

Hell it was Kissinger and Nixon first opening relations with China. Then even the beloved Reagan sold military equipment to China.

We heard little about the country until all of this started and now all of the sudden the hate and blame is widespread in some circles. It does nothing but create animosity.

The Sky news report has not said anything we didn't already know or what some already think.

Also, even with our freedom of speech, nothing is absolute.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4  Gazoo    4 years ago

“though the World Health Organization says it “likely” came from animals, not a lab.“

WHO also said that this virus could not spread from person to person. The WHO is headed by an Ethiopian. What country has pumped billions into the Ethiopian economy? China. Dots anyone? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gazoo @4    4 years ago
“though the World Health Organization says it “likely” came from animals, not a lab.“

As did an awful lot of scientists and researchers.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

I’m skeptical of any promises made by any communist and the Chinese communists don't have a very good record of keeping their promise

In what world is this controversial? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    4 years ago

TDS World where Chinese culpability interferes with their desire to blame Trump instead.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

Rather than chop Cotton's thoughts into phrases and words without context, here's  an op-ed he wrote last week that explains his position on the origins of the virus:

Cinese researchers reported  in the Lancet Jan. 24 that the first known cases had no contact with the market, and Chinese state media  acknowledged  the finding. There’s no evidence the market sold  bats  or  pangolins , the animals from which the virus is thought to have jumped to humans. And the  bat species  that carries it isn’t found within 100 miles of Wuhan.

Wuhan has two labs where we know bats and humans interacted. One is the Institute of Virology,  eight miles  from the wet market; the other is the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention,  barely 300 yards  from the market.

Both labs collect live animals to study viruses. Their researchers travel to caves across China to capture bats for this purpose. Chinese state media released a  minidocumentary  in mid-December following a team of Wuhan CDC researchers collecting viruses from bats in caves. The researchers fretted openly about the risk of infection. 

These risks were not limited to the field. The Washington Post  reported  last week that in 2018 U.S. diplomats in China warned of “a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate” the Institute of Virology. The Wuhan CDC operates at even lower biosafety standards. 

While the Chinese government denies the possibility of a lab leak, its actions tell a different story. The Chinese military  posted  its top epidemiologist to the Institute of Virology in January. In February Chairman Xi Jinping urged  swift implementation  of new biosafety rules to govern pathogens in laboratory settings. Academic papers about the virus’s origins are now subject to prior restraint by the government. 

In early January, enforcers threatened doctors who warned their colleagues about the virus. Among them was Li Wenliang, who died of Covid-19 in February. Laboratories working to sequence the virus’s genetic code were  ordered  to destroy their samples. The laboratory that first published the virus’s genome was shut down, Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post  reported  in February.

This evidence is circumstantial, to be sure, but it all points toward the Wuhan labs. Thanks to the Chinese coverup, we may never have direct, conclusive evidence—intelligence rarely works that way—but Americans justifiably can use common sense to follow the inherent logic of events to their likely conclusion.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 years ago

And here is information from real live scientists.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @6.1    4 years ago

Wow. They have a guess too.

Since China refused access to the lab, destroyed evidence before it could be examined and didn't share live samples of the early strains, I'll guess we will never know now.  China is not acting like they have nothing to hide. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @6.1    4 years ago

cotton is a bible thumping blowhard and borderline traitor. he's been pushing this conspiracy theory for months. it's nothing more than rwnj's laying down the foundation of paranoia for the gullible in trumps base. after all, war or the threat of war is their default solution to a floundering presidency, and always will be.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  devangelical @6.1.2    4 years ago

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Kavika
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6.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    4 years ago

Their ''guess'' comes with scientific knowledge. Cotton doesn't. 

In fact, there was an excellent program last night and they were interviewing a scientist that traces the origin of the virus and has been doing for over 15 years and they concluded that it did not come from the lab. 

Anyone can believe what they want, but I will stick with people with scientific knowledge.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.5  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @6.1.4    4 years ago
"Anyone can believe what they want, but I will stick with people with scientific knowledge."

Me too.

And doesn't use O'Donnell's "Bash China and Biden to deflect from Trump's failure" Republican guidebook.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7  devangelical    4 years ago

the root of the problem is the inability of americans to negotiate anything with the PRC chinese or virtually any foreign gov'ts or peoples. until all US intellectual properties and patents are respected and safe in china, the solution is simple. don't let them do anything here that americans can't do there.

assume all chinese citizens are PRC gov't agents. develop and place monitoring devices that track their movements, their cell phones, and any computer use. restrict all student access to any gov't, proprietary, or research materials. closely monitor chinese visitor visas. give the chinese that own US properties and owners of businesses in the US 30 days to sell or seize them outright. change or cancel their permanent work visas/green cards to all but immediate family members and deport the rest. impose a tax on transfers of their funds inside or outside the US. impose mandatory sentences for any american citizens convicted of attempting to interfere/obstruct the law, profiteer, or launder the chinese proceeds of the sales. life imprisonment for any elected officials. require that chinese surrender all technical data and software for any chinese products licensed to be imported here. after all that takes place, then we can negotiate with the chinese. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  devangelical @7    4 years ago
"...give the chinese that own US properties and owners of businesses in the US 30 days to sell or seize them outright..."

Wow!  Exactly what "The Land of the Free" did to the Japanese Americans in the early 1940s.  Has the Chinese government seized the American-owned industries, businesses and franchises?  Not that I know of, do you?

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1    4 years ago

apples and oranges, buzz...

americans don't own anything in china.and I want the chinese to seize american interests there because I know who it will financially hurt the most. does the chinese theft of the uber software operating platform story (while it was still owned by an american majority of stockholders) ring any bells?

besides, this is all misdirection and posturing on both sides for the same reason. political preservation. the PRC and rightwing corporate america are too busy sucking each others dicks for billions to ever kill off that golden peking duck.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  devangelical @7.1.1    4 years ago
"americans don't own anything in china"

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1.2    4 years ago
"...or have contract factories producing their products
in China."


...gee,I thought you claimed to be an attorney???
semantics makes a difference in the law here.

you can address the uber story now... 

 
 
 
sixpick
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7.1.5  sixpick  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1    4 years ago
Wow!  Exactly what "The Land of the Free" did to the Japanese Americans in the early 1940s.

Speak lightly, the Democrats loved Franklin D Roosevelt and he loved Stalin, as did many on the Left.

 
 
 
squiggy
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7.1.6  squiggy  replied to  sixpick @7.1.5    4 years ago

Good thought- since this calamity was dumped on Trump, he deserves extended terms to work it out.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.4    4 years ago

Well, as you know, American presidents are not MY presidents, so I need not be beholden to any of them.  And contrary to popular belief among the conservatives here, neither is Xi Jinping.  I changed my avatar, a very rare thing for me to do, only to make it perfectly clear who my leader is, and in fact I'd rather not be beholden to the present one either. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.8  Kavika   replied to  dennis smith @7.1.4    4 years ago

Here is a history update for you Dennis, yes FDR did sign the order but the chief architect of it was Earl Warren, AG, and then Governor of CA. who was a republican. 

Yup, that Earl Warren later Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. 

President Franklin Roosevelt signed the executive order creating the relocation centers, but the principal architects of the relocation program were John J. McCloy, assistant secretary   of war, and three U. S. Army officers, Major General Alien W. Gullion, Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, and Colonel Karl R. Bendesten. In developing the relocation policy these men had the full cooperation and support of Earl Warren, who held the positions of attorney general and governor of California during the Second World War.

As for it being as you state 80 plus years ago is that supposed to make it less racist or a very ugly part of our history?

Warren organized the state's civilian defense program, warning in January 1942 that, "the Japanese situation as it exists in this state today may well be the   Achilles' heel   of the entire civilian defense effort." He became a driving force behind the   internment of over one hundred thousand Japanese Americans   without any charges or due process. [47]   Though the decision to intern Japanese Americans was made by General   John L. DeWitt , and the internment was carried out by federal officials, Warren's advocacy played a major role in providing public justification for the internment. [48]

Both parties had their hand in the internment of Japanese Americans.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @7.1.8    4 years ago

oops, another attempted rw revision of US history knee-capped...

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.11  Kavika   replied to  dennis smith @7.1.10    4 years ago

Facts are a bitch, aren't they?

The distance past is just that. Things are much different in today's world. 

Not so distant. My friend was born in an internment camp, Manzanar to be exact.

Are things really that different in today's world? It doesn't seem so and you might want to ask Asian Americans.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7.1.11    4 years ago
acts are a bitch, aren't they

Apparently, if you think FDR, THE PRESIDENT, wasn't responsible for signing an EXECUTIVE Order.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.13  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.12    4 years ago

Apparently you have a problem understanding what I wrote. I didn't give FDR a pass.

Try again.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.15  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago
Though the decision to intern Japanese Americans was made by General   John L. DeWitt , and the internment was carried out by federal officials, Warren's advocacy played a major role in providing public justification for the internment
Once again your understanding seems to be lacking. Nice try though.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7.1.13    4 years ago

ote. I didn't give FDR a pass.

Right, You just brought up a Republican (and surprise, surprise ignored the Democrats in FDR's adminstration)  and called him the "chief architect."  The whole point of your post was to take the blame off the President who signed the actaul executive order and shift the blame to a Republican. The usual partisan MO. 

FDR is the only one responsible for the EO. Not a governor. Not a guy who wrote an Op-ed in the paper.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.17  devangelical  replied to    4 years ago
the actions of a racist democrat

... that moved minorities from the kitchens and supply lines into front line combat roles during WW2, despite all conservative opposition.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.20  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

I didn't deflect anything loki....I hold FDR responsible, but you cannot see that Warren was as guilty as well. Partisan BS at it's best. 

At least I didn't blame Trump...LOL, you're the one that brought up Trump...More whining 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.21  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.16    4 years ago

Quite amazing that you seem to know that I'm thinking. Are you the ''Great Karnac"

But you keep right on protecting and making excuses for the Warren. The sign of a true partisan. I hold FDR responsible but you can't see the forest for the trees and keep trying to make excuses for Warren and every other republican that supported the EO.

Are you aware that only one politician stood up and said the EO was wrong. Yeah, he was a republican all the rest of the Republicans didn't say a damn thing nor did the democrats. They went along with it. As did SCOTUS in the Korematsu vs US decision.

Point all the fingers you want but history speaks for itself. 

The Japanese Americans were screwed over in a completely illegal EO that was supported by both republicans and democrats.

At Congressional hearings in February 1942, a majority of the testimonies, including those from California Governor Culbert L. Olson and State Attorney General   Earl Warren , declared that all Japanese should be removed.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.23  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

Your inability to see the forest is quite amazing. The point that I was making is that both dems and repubs were part of this. And Warren was the AG and then Governor of CA. which had the largest population in the US. You do know where CA is located don't you.

At Congressional hearings in February 1942, a majority of the testimonies, including those from California Governor Culbert L. Olson and State Attorney General      Earl Warren   , declared that all Japanese should be removed.

You can spew the partisan BS but the facts speak for themselves. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.25  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

Why don't you give me a list of Republican politicians that opposed EO 9066.

Thanks for bringing up the St. Louis. Yup FDR did that as well with the support of both dems and republicans. 

BTW what is your explanation if it is so true that dems are racists that the majority of all minority groups today are dems. Ya think it might be that we see that the republicans are full of shit when it comes to dealing with minority groups.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.28  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

Yeah for sure a profile in courage, probably a totally foreign term to you.

Could you give me a link that states that the Dems say that we are too stupid to get into college without their help?

BTW, I'm waiting on that list of republicans that opposed EO 9066. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.31  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago
Holy crap, seriously? from the party of affirmative action, and minorities are too stupid to get ID’s to vote you have to ask that?

Yes, I have to ask it and you can't seem to answer it. Do you know why AA was instituted? You might want to look it up. 

I'm still waiting for the link that dems proclaimed that minorities are too stupid to get IDs. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.1.32  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago
It will be right next to the list of democrats that voted against any of Bush’s EO’s, good luck! It must be awesome being a democrat president , democrats  blame republicans for your racist bullshit and absolute incompetence.

So you've got nothing. Not surprising at all. 

My racist bs. Are you saying that I'm a racist and incompetent or it that directed at all dems. Either way it a really ignorant comment.

Have you been able to find that list of republicans that fought against FDR EO...

You sure are making a lot of accusations without any backup. 

Well, when you get something notify the media. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.35  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

Understanding when it's question is fundamental seems that you failed that test as well.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.37  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

So only dems didn't want there kids in school with minorities. Repubs were supportive of their kids going to school with minorities.!!!

 Now that is a huge load of bs even for you.

Still haven't found that list of repubs that were against FDR's EO, how about the links that dems think that minorities are too stupid to get ID's.

Have a great evening doing that research.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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7.1.40  pat wilson  replied to  Kavika @7.1.37    4 years ago

The gas-lighting is profound.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.41  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

Taft voiced his dissent but did not vote against it.

Carr the governor of Colorado did voice his dissent. If you look back in the thread I said that one republican did the right thing.

I never said that any dem voiced or voted against it because I know that they didn't. 

But it's really good to know that one republican wasn't a POS racist.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.42  Kavika   replied to    4 years ago

I responded to your two. See the comment. 7.1.41

Democrats don't feel that minorities are too stupid to get into college. That's simply your opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.47  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.4    4 years ago

Dennis, I have no loyalty to either major American political party.  To me, JFK was the ideal leader, and I would have liked to see Colin Powell as POTUS.  I would have preferred Bloomberg to Biden, and I like Nikki Haley. But because of what Trump has been doing, and Republicans following their O'Donnell bible, if I were an American I would prefer to see Alfred E. Neuman or Pogo as POTUS rather than ANY Republican. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.48  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1.47    4 years ago

Oh, and isn't FDR the POTUS who would not allow the SS St.Louis passengers disembark?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.50  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.49    4 years ago

LOL. You can rely on the fact that I have no desire whatsoever to be an American - after all, I don't own a gun.  I just wish my son didn't live there. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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8  squiggy    4 years ago

"I changed my avatar, a very rare thing for me to do, only to make it perfectly clear who my leader is..."

A maple leaf? Why isn't the total of your point foreign meddling?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  squiggy @8    4 years ago

Will you please clarify what you mean?

 
 
 
squiggy
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8.1.1  squiggy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1    4 years ago

It seems clear already - Why tell Americans whom to vote for. Why must their choice honor a foreign entity?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  squiggy @8.1.1    4 years ago

Did I tell anyone to vote for Biden?  The last POTUS I really admired was JFK.  I wish Nikki Haley had her hat in the ring but she's smart enough to wait until 2024.  Don't think that just because I don't like Trump that I like Biden. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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8.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1.2    4 years ago

nikki already has 2 strikes against her running for potus as a GOP candidate, and she was born with both of them.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  devangelical @8.1.3    4 years ago

I guess it really depends on whom her competition would be, both from the Republicans and the Democrats. 

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
9  squiggy    4 years ago

"Don't think that just because I don't like Trump that I like Biden."

...yet half of America has been pigeon-holed as deplorable low-lifes with that same logic for a hate for Hilary. Every conscientious juror has had to live with the doubt of a choice he had to make and it was often not more than shit or shoved in.

Trump is the drunk uncle and I'll stick up for him because he's family. I don't think he's particularly bright, I couldn't afford a car that would be allowed in his parking lot, but he's America's representative on the world stage and I owe him the opportunity to succeed, particularly when it's on my behalf.

The left has yet to offer America a positive direction or a coalescing candidate who can walk and spell gum.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

My problem is that there are issues on both sides that I favour, and on both sides I dislike, but no matter because I have no vote anyway.  

 
 

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