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Millennial George Floyd Protesters Prove The Times They Are A Changin

  

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By:  john-russell  •  4 years ago  •  25 comments

Millennial George Floyd Protesters Prove The Times They Are A Changin
Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'





Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
The battle outside ragin'
Will soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'

Bob Dylan





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Ben Pope

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Protest crossing Chicago River just west of Halsted. Stretches as far as the eye can see.


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1:31 PM · Jun 6, 2020 from Chicago, IL · Twitter for iPhone



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George Floyd rallies in Chicago: 30,000 protestors rally in Union Park, march through streets









With Mayor Lori Lightfoot limiting access to the Loop by raising most Chicago River bridges, the huge crowd of protestors marched through the near West and North sides. A estimated crowd of 30,000 protesters demanding police reform returned to Union Park on Saturday, a week after the George Floyd protests and accompanying riots that rattled Chicago.

Activists and groups from across the city gathered late on a cool, clear Saturday afternoon in the Near West Side park before heading north onto Ashland Avenue and peacefully marching through West Town.

"Being out here, seeing all different races come together we're here, we're making a difference, we're making a change," protester Savanah Wilbourn said. "I was shocked to see this many people here... People think you have to be black to support Black Lives Matter, and that's not true at all. You just have to have the correct mindset to understand it."

The massive crowd stretched nearly 20 blocks long as it turned east on Division Street before reconvening at the the site of the former Cabrini Green public housing project on the Near North Side.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/6/21282567/george-floyd-protests-chicago-rally-june-6

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Chicago was not the only major city with a huge protest on Saturday June 6th, they were many across the nation and many of them were huge. It was the largest day of protest so far, coming 12 days after George Floyd was killed by the police. 

This has gone beyond temporary protest, it is now a sustained movement to end racism.  While the personal prejudiced beliefs of individual racists cannot be ended by protesting against them, an environment can be created where racism is no longer socially accepted. And the law enforcement and  legal systems can be adjusted so that racism can be removed from the official process of policing and court proceedings and prosecutions and sentencing. 

America's millennial generation has been socially awakened, and is about to have a profound effect on our society. We are seeing history in the making. 

The protesters have persevered through the serious distraction to their cause created by looting and scattered violence. They have persevered through the indifference and obstruction of President Trump, and have persevered through the human inclination to protest once or twice and go home.  These (mostly) young people deserve a lot of credit. 






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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

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Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

An experiment in human sacrifice, per messaging from two weeks ago...

But one thing we know,  in five years, racism will still be worse then it ever was per the same people,  and even more people will be making their fortunes telling you how it’s bad it is. death, taxes and perpetual grievance.

 It’s the been the same story for 50 years and there’s too much money involved to change it. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    4 years ago

They may be the political death knell for Donald Trump. It has long been held that low voter turnout among the under 30 group would be beneficial to Trump's chances for re-election. It will be much more difficult now for the young generation of voters to rationalize not voting in November. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 years ago

Maybe. Trumps chances were always going to be a coin flip.  It’s still a long way away and I’ll bet the overwhelming majority of protesters were never going to vote for trump anyway.  Let’s be clear, if corona deaths spike in areas with protests, those deaths will be on the protestors and when those deaths are added to the ever increasing body count from the riots, attitudes change. And if there is no spike from these mass gatherings, then the progressive lockdown that destroyed the economy is going to look even worse.

i just think the idea that these protests are going to change anything is wrongheaded. No matter what “ change” occurs as a result of these protests, the grievances industry will go on, claiming things are worse than ever. As Jonah Goldberg wrote, the southern poverty and law center isn’t going to start focusing on poverty.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    4 years ago

Do you want to get rid of the white grievance industry too ? Populist "conservative" media like Fox News, Daily Caller, Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh, talk radio, etc. are often little more than expressions of complaint by whites that their world is unhappily changing.  Will all that stop Sean? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    4 years ago
 It’s still a long way away and I’ll bet the overwhelming majority of protesters were never going to vote for trump anyway.  

Perhaps, but now presumably many of them will vote against him when perhaps before all this they would have stayed home. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 years ago

Actually, we have been led to believe that it was all these idealistic youngins' who will follow the pied piper of liberalism. Just look how enthusiastic Bernie's kids were...and perhaps still are.

Older and more mature citizens still continue to vote in large numbers. So what you appear to be saying is that the Democrats will have no net gain in people voting for them.

They might turn out to be turn after they're four years of pitiful performance.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to    4 years ago

lol. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.8  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.6    4 years ago

I find that comment little more than incoherent .

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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1.1.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    4 years ago
but now presumably many of them will vote against him

LOL

amazingly you move  seamlessly from one failed wish to another,

I love watching this schit... LOL


presumably, trump could never win

presumably, trump was not going to be in office a month

presumably trump was going to be impeached

"presumably"   he said,  simply  too damn funny :)


john, the lefts luck has not changed one bit.

but thanks for the laugh.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.8    4 years ago

I agree, I royally fuked up the last sentence.

What I meant to say is that the Democrats will likely be turned out of office for doing absolutely nothing worthwhile since Trump has been elected...other than trying to get rid of him.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.11  author  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.1.9    4 years ago

Your "logic" is immensely flawed.  In November of 2016, when Trump was elected, no one had ever seen him in office. He was a television game show host and a con man /hustler who had made his fame by making deals to have his celebrity name put on the sides of office towers and condo developments. He was also someone who had been sued thousands of times during the course of his business career, but that red flag didnt seem to bother his adoring followers. Shortly after his election Trump agreed to pay 25 million dollars to the victims of his Trump University fraud, but that didnt phase his cult following either. 

Now, Americans have seen him in action as president for four years, and for the most part, the majority has never liked what they have seen. He is the only president in history to have never achieved 50% approval rating at any point during his first term.  In the 2018 midterms Trump was largely rebuked by voters across the country.  Candidates that he has endorsed have often gotten much  less votes in the states and districts than Trump did in 2016. Why would that be?  Because people have seen Trump in office. 

The polls in 2016 have very little to do with what is going on now, if anything at all. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.12  pat wilson  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    4 years ago
Trump is polling worse with older voters than in 2016

Comparison of Donald Trump’s 2016 vote margin and the average margin in national head-to-head polls between Trump and Joe Biden since April 1, by different age groups

AGE GROUP TRUMP 2016 MARGIN TRUMP 2020 MARGIN DIFFERENCE
45 to 64 +4.0 -1.4 -5.4
50 to 64 +5.8 +0.6 -5.2
55+ +9.9 -0.4 -10.3
65+ +13.3 -1.0 -14.3
 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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1.1.13  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.11    4 years ago
Your "logic" is immensely flawed. 

but yet I have predicted every leftwing failure since 2016

and you have been wrong about everything since 2016

  • the election
  • the fabricated russia bs
  • the fabricated impeachment bs

but now you suddenly have it all figured out huh?

LOL

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FLYNAVY1
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1.1.15  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    4 years ago

I'm guessing you are very wrong Sean.  The millennials are picking up where we baby boomers fell short in the 1960s.  I've raised three of them.  They are much more accepting of racial and religious differences than those that brought them into this world.  Take a good look at the crowds that are gathering to protest too.  They are much whiter than they were in the 1960s.  To disregard that point is to dismiss that vehicle that is bringing the change. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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1.1.16  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.6    4 years ago

Ignore the senior vote at your own peril too.  There is still this thing called Covid out there that the Trump administration has told everyone that they are on their own.  Seniors are taking issue with that stance.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago
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Saturday, June 06, 2020
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'This Is Incredible': Enormous Crowds Flood Streets Across US Demanding End to Police Brutality and Justice for George Floyd

"It feels like it's more than just a moment. Finally, finally it's more than just a moment."

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 years ago

Considering that all this brutality as you refer to it is happening in big blue cities located in blue states those voters may well turn against the powers that be in those places.  The federal government and the more rural oriented red states and small towns and exurbs didn’t do it.  In those places like the area around where I live the police and sheriffs marched with the protesters. As long as these demonstrations remain civil and peaceable they should be encouraged to do so.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 years ago

Not need to emulate you know who...and shout. We can clearly hear you and disagree.

This leftist driven street theater left George Floyd behind two weeks ago

Lately it's turned all political, pointless, painful, and costly.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

 
 
 
bugsy
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4  bugsy    4 years ago

The truth of the matter is most of these kids don't and won't vote. They want their free crap but just want it given to them without having to go through the "inconvenience" of voting.

More than likely most of these brats are going to return to their predominate white suburbs, to their parent's houses, maybe return to their jobs as long as unemployment does not exceed what they were making before, and continue to sip on their soy lattes, with their "solidarity" feel good moment nothing more than a distant memory they can one day tell their grand kids. .

George Floyd will be an asterisk in history and only be brought up when the agenda calls for it.

As far as real America, Trump will be elected in a landslide.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    4 years ago
This has gone beyond temporary protest, it is now a sustained movement to end racism.

Maybe - and there's obviously nothing with wanting to end racism - but I would prefer if people saw this as a policing issue, not simply a race issue. Police brutality happens to all people, not just black people. I fear that without recognizing that fact, there won't be any useful change.

 
 

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