Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as his running mate
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Joe Biden has chosen Kamala Harris, the prominent senator from California whose political career has included many barrier-breaking moments, as his running mate, his campaign announced on Tuesday.
The decision comes more than a year after Harris, who was also a 2020 Democratic candidate, clashed with Biden over racial issues during the first primary debate. If elected, she would be the nation's first female, first Black and first Asian American vice president.
Picking Harris, who is 55, provides the ticket with some generational diversity. Biden, 77, would be the oldest president-elect in U.S. history.
The announcement from Biden caps weeks of speculation and is Biden's biggest decision to date as the presumptive Democratic nominee — a detail Biden himself noted in his announcement.
"You make a lot of important decisions as president. But the first one is who you select to be your Vice President. I've decided that Kamala Harris is the best person to help me take this fight to Donald Trump and Mike Pence and then to lead this nation starting in January 2021," Biden wrote in an email from his campaign to supporters.
Harris, the only Black woman in the U.S. Senate, was elected in 2016 after serving as California's attorney general and, before that, San Francisco district attorney. A native of Oakland, California, and the child of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, Harris has said she was inspired to attend law school after joining civil rights protests with her parents.
"She's been a fighter and a principled leader and I know because I've seen her up close and I've seen her in the trenches," Biden said of Harris at a virtual fundraiser in June.
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As attorney general, Harris worked closely with Biden's late son, Beau Biden, when he was Delaware's attorney general, particularly in challenging big banks in the wake of the housing crisis. In her book, "The Truths We Hold: An American Journey," Harris says the pair "talked every day, sometimes multiple times a day."
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Because of their friendship, Harris' attack on Biden during the first Democratic primary debate— for his record on busing and working with segregationists— came as a shock to the Biden campaign, his family and the candidate himself.
"I was prepared for them to come after me, but I wasn't prepared for the person coming at me the way she came at me. She knew Beau, she knows me," Biden said in an interview later that summer. He said Harris had "mischaracterized" his position.
The surprise and backlash of that debate moment in Miami was still top of mind for Biden's wife, Jill, as recently as March. Jill Biden said in a virtual fundraiser, "Our son Beau spoke so highly of her and, you know, and how great she was. And not that she isn't. I'm not saying that. But it was just like a punch to the gut. It was a little unexpected."
Both Biden and Harris allies have acknowledged that, in the months after she left the race, Harris has given her full support to the Biden campaign. She has often campaigned virtually for Biden, holding joint fundraisers with the candidate and roundtables around issues like the racial disparities in coronavirus cases and protecting the Affordable Care Act. In a June virtual fundraiser, she raised $3.5 million for the campaign.
Harris was praised for her pointed questioning of Attorney General Bill Barr and Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during their respective confirmation hearings, highlighting her record as a prosecutor.
But her record as a prosecutor, especially on issues like marijuana convictions and truancy, has also been a source of criticism, especially from younger, more progressive voters.
Harris has faced pushback in recent weeks from some Biden allies who said the former presidential candidate is too ambitious— criticism that many were quick to point out was sexist.
"Our campaign is full of ambitious women going all out for Joe Biden," Biden's campaign manager Jen O'Malley Dillon said in a tweet. "Whoever he chooses from the very qualified options to help him win & unite the country, she'll be one too."
Harris responded during a virtual conference with Black Girls Rock earlier this month.
"There will be resistance to your ambition," she said. "There will be people who say to you, you are out of your lane. But don't let that burden you."
Harris ended her presidential bid in December, dogged by fundraising problems and reports of power struggles in the top leadership of her campaign.
Throughout the pandemic, Harris has been living in her Washington apartment with her husband, Douglass Emhoff, an entertainment lawyer. She attended Howard University for her undergraduate degree and was a Capitol Hill intern in the very same office she occupies today.
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Biden's choice of Harris is both popular and historic!
We just dumped Trump 2020!
Harris energizes voters. Pence anesthetizes them.
HaHa... She was the biggest flameout of the primaries. She energized voters to flee her campaign so fast she had to drop out two months before the first vote was cast. From top tier to broke with no support and and out of the race in record time.
Her appeal lasted until she opened her mouth.
Except she dropped out Dec 3, which hardly makes her among the first. Try again.
I have no idea how you think that’s a defense of her.
her campaign was so Terrible she couldn’t even make the first primary, despite being touted as a “top tier” candidate.
your view of her doesn’t seem tied to reality. She has zero legislative accomplishments, ran a horrible campaign for president, and supports every extreme position put forth by the extreme left of the party.
Sean,
No matter what I said to you, I knew I would get the usual smarmy answer back, so I am not going to engage with you.
Right? I mean, the right wing ALWAYS spelled Obama's name right, didn't they? But the left does it to trumptard and the right cries about it. Sad.
tRump is the proper spelling.
Amazing isn't it. I can't count how many times I read 'Obummer' or some other such iteration.
Now all the sudden it is horrible if it happens to donald...
tRumpturd
well that's better than calling her "heels up harris" I guess.
Now that's not nice, Mark. It takes two to tango.
hehehehehehe
well IF biden wins , my prediction of a series of one term presidents becomes reality , AND IF Biden doesn't make it through his first term making his VP president , another prediction I made becomes reality , and his pick is someone that doubtfully would win if she was at the top of the ticket.
when it comes to politicians? no one HAS to be nice , if they or anyone demands niceness , that person shouldn't be a politician.
I patiently wait to see if my predictions become reality.
You may be right about a slew of 1 term politicians. I don't think you are right about her being at the top of the ticket though.
I just don't like double standards used on women. If a man gets around he's the dude. If a woman???
we shall see I guess , she didn't exactly do well during the primaries . which is what I based my comment on.
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No, but you are familiar with those that did and not one word of condemnation from you.
Which is why I don't give a shit if someone calls trmp "trumptard"
Trump is chocking. DO NOT RESUSCITATE!
Trump is chocking. DO NOT RESUSCITATE!
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Glad to see that he made a wise choice. For me, it was a toss up between Harris and Rice. Rice has the knowledge and expertise from her days spent working with the world leaders around the globe before as a political diplomat, and Secretary of State and National Security advisor. She would have been a good resource to have in our corner.
However, Harris is also a good choice. While her level of expertise many not be on the level as Rice, she is also well learned in the areas that her job will require.
I think Biden had good advice from his advisors and made the choice that he felt would be someone who he could perhaps communicate better with during their leadership.
IMHO, he made the right choice. And at the right time. His timing was great.
I was hoping that Kamala would be his choice. She'll make a great president one day.
I have been in her corner since the Senate Hearings. She is excellent, and, God forbid, if need be, would make a GREAT PRESIDENT.
I have been in her corner since the Senate Hearings. She is excellent, and, God forbid, if need be, would make a GREAT PRESIDENT.
This will wind up being the Democrat equivalent of McCain/Palin.
Bad comparison. Palin was a moron. Harris is not.
As is Biden.
And Trump
Nope, Donald Trump has a record as President to be proud of.
I don't think so. The concern from the other side, then as now, seems to be that the presidential candidate might be too old and unable to fulfill the term thus raising the real possibility that the VP would become Prez. I wouldn't argue about your assessment of either but that doesn't change the fact that this VP pick is going to be scrutinized more so than others.
Sure Vic...
He lies all the time, can't speak English properly, says he knows things he knows nothing about, is verbose, didn't build the wall on Mexicos dime, is divisive, name calls like a child, and mishandled the worst health crisis in 100 years. But you think he's doing fine. Btw.. that last one was my breaking point.
He is just a little bit older than the current Pres and for that reason, both VP's should be looked at in the same way. So I guess I agree on this point:
No, Palin was not a moron, or she would not have risen as high as she did
Palin projected common sense wisdom and positive energy, Harris comes across as dull, cold, and angry.
Palin was elected to the Wasilla city council in 1992 and became mayor of Wasilla in 1996. In 2003, after an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor , she was appointed chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission , responsible for overseeing the state's oil and gas fields for safety and efficiency. In 2006, she became the youngest person and the first woman to be elected Governor of Alaska . [1]
How so....specifically? Give us more than generalities
It's also your opinion and a liberal talking point. I guess doing what Dr Fauci said was the big mistake.
Here are the accomplishments:
He got 200 Judges appointed - real judges, not liberal legislators.
He rewrote a horrific trade deal - NAFTA became the USMCA
He rebuilt the military
He created 4 Million jobs, before China destroyed it all
He built his wall, despite all the resistance
Median household income rose to $61,372 in 2017, a post-recession high.
Some 3.9 million Americans off food stamps since the election.
Biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history by signing the Tax Cuts and Jobs act into law
America became an oil producer under Trump
I could go on but you get the idea.
He did what I wanted, despite how he "talks!"
Are you kidding Greg. What Palin had going for her was that she was a pretty woman. But then she started to talk and OMG.... what tripe.
Oh here is a specific. He is still insisting that the virus is just going to go away, and yet we are dying at a rate of 1000 a day and with that rate, he wants schools open. SMH.
Kamala is a real sleeper... all they to the top!
Trump yesterday said that the 1917 flu pandemic ended the 2nd world war. I'll skip the ~1000 other retarded things trump has said over the last 4 years. Trump has the IQ of a turnip.
Your opinion, not mine. And he is now legislating with the pen.
Granted. But Clinton did that, too.
Wrong. He built the wall on our dime. The promise was that Mexico was going to build the wall.
That he did.
That he did. So did Clinton.
That depends where. Not in NY.
We were before then. We just now have a glut.
So you are good with 1000 dying a day, not standing up and trying to quell the protesters like Presidents have done in the past, Gaffing all the time (which apparently only applies to Biden).. his latest being Yo-Semite, and a whole slew of Republicans who have come out against him for so many improprieties of the office.
Look Vic, I get it. You like him. I don't. If I wasn't sure the last election (and I hated the both of them) I am sure this time around.
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fact - followed by partisan opinion
Nonsense, he renamed it with minor adjustments, some laughable.
BS. More opinion although we threw record numbers of dollars at them.
Fact _ followed by an opinionated excuse for today's numbers.
Wow, talk about credibility. Approximately 1000 miles with no walls and no plans, while he raids the US military construction budgets to replace current fences with bollard walls.
opinion, fact, but why, and how long will it last in this COVID economy.
You are out of date, the most recent SNAP data shows that participation just increased by 5.9 million, wiping out the 3.9 million decrease.
With debatable results and trillions added to that nasty national debt that no one seems to care about anymore.
Partisan fantasy? Under POTUS Obama the USA stopped decades of sliding oil production and set records for increases seven years in a row on our way to virtual oil independence as production rose and imports faded away.
Trump continued the trend and he can say that as predicted in 2012, we have now out produced Russia in Crude oil.
Yup, the unemployed need money! He has his pen & phone too!
Granted. But Clinton did that, too.
Good for Bill!
Wrong.
RIGHT!
He built the wall on our dime.
Yep
The promise was that Mexico was going to build the wall.
The hyperbole was that Mexico was going to build the wall!
That he did.
Thank you.
That he did.
Thank you again.
That depends where. Not in NY.
I don't want to pay for wealthy New York residents.
We were before then.
No we were not. We were an importer and everytime we got the economy going the Arabs raised the price of oil.
So you are good with 1000 dying a day
No I'm not, but if you know how to stop it call Dr Fauci right away
not standing up and trying to quell the protesters like Presidents have done in the past
The Governor's said we don't want it remember?
Gaffing all the time (which apparently only applies to Biden).
Talking from gut instinct - and btw he's usually right!
his latest being Yo-Semite
Oh man, I can't vote for him over that!/s
and a whole slew of Republicans who have come out against him for so many improprieties of the office.
If they had any guts Cruz or Rubio would have been president. No guts, No glory!
Look Vic, I get it. You like him.
I like you too!
Then why is he whining about mail in ballots instead of running on that record?
You mean conservative activist judges.
It didn't need more money and as you may recall, Obama funded the military very well, i'll let you go look that one up. I think you are also forgetting that trump also diverted money for the military and vets to his stupid wall after congress told him to go pound sand. As usual, trump said that Obama destroyed the military, which was a flat out lie, and his followers just gobble it up.
How did China destroy jobs in the USA? Was it some legislation? Or do you mean the Trump Virus that trump spent 2 months ignoring and lying about instead of actually doing something to stop the virus? And for the record, we are down 23 million jobs. Trump owns that.
3 miles of new wall. That's it Vic. Less now since 2 weeks ago and a strong breeze knocked down half a mile of it.
Not anymore.
Wrong. Obama added 15 million jobs in 8 years, by your own admission, trump is at far less than half of that amount. Also, there were no middle class tax cuts. ANY tax cut they may have seen was consumed by trumps trade wars. But since ya went there? What happened to the 10% tax cut for the middle class trump promised just weeks before the 2018 mid terms? Weird how they suddenly vanished like a fucking fart in the wind after the election was over.
The number of 4 Million was from 2017
Are we really going to put this country through not knowing who won on election night with uncounted ballots everywhere?
Joe Biden has 600 lawyers ready to contest that kind of election. That must be the objective - steal the election via chaos!
Ah, so then those added jobs are now gone, thanks for pointing that out.
You have your tRump talking points down pat.
True.. And usually bat shit crazy gives me a boner but as soon as she started talking.... "naw, i'll pass".
Not true. He is killing our working class with those tax changes.
Don't blame this on Dr. Fauci. Leadership comes from the top. Trump should have gotten on TV and spoken directly to the American public about wearing masks. He should have given the gov the PPE they needed. And now that the govs are up to their necks in paying for this, instead of using the gov supplies, he also wants them to make up the difference on the PPP money.
They never said, nor would they have the right to prevent him from getting on the TV and talking about our current situation in a calming way. Instead, he marched through a group of protesters and held a bible.
Funny how talking from the gut is OK for him, but not for Biden.
If only that was the only idiotic thing he said.
A puzzlement. Not sure how I should respond.... other than to say I like you too.
Um, if you vote by mail, you vote before election day and it has to be post marked the day of the election. I have been voting by mail for 30 years, trump is just full of shit.
Trump just doesn't want a high voter turnout like there was in the mid-terms because he knows he will lose, and lose huge.
You better check with SP, he has it at 1,000 miles. Not bad considering Pelosi shook her ugly fist saying not one dime for a wall.
At least your friends tried to contest it. All they could come up with was China wiped most of it out!
So Fauci makes one mistake and he gets all the blame, but trump says to inject bleach and shove light bulbs up your ass and you don't say a word? Wow, ok.
Which one - saying masks were of no value or shutting down the economy for 2 + months?
but trump says to inject bleach and shove light bulbs up your ass and you don't say a word?
Were you tempted to do either?
Since Trump didn't say that, why in hell would anyone sane respond to what WASN'T SAID?
That is ludicrous!
Why not?
Leadership comes from the top. Trump should have gotten on TV and spoken directly to the American public about wearing masks.
First of all democrats were screaming that he should listen to the experts. Second of all, did you hear why Fauci lied about the masks? At the time we didn't have many, nor did we have much else, including a warning from China!!!
They never said, nor would they have the right to prevent him from getting on the TV and talking about our current situation in a calming way. Instead, he marched through a group of protesters and held a bible.
In a calming way? Oh, you must think the riots have something to do with the Flynn killing way back in May! The President standing before the burned & desacrated church was the President's way of making a statement.
Funny how talking from the gut is OK for him, but not for Biden.
I wouldn't mind Biden talking from the gut. He doesn't have any ideas of his own. His only reason for running is to defeat Trump. As I say, should Biden win he will be asked to step down and he will gladly do so.
If only that was the only idiotic thing he said.
If that means that much for you vote for Joe Biden, or should I say Kamala Harris?
Oh no, please do.
Do you understand that Americans are now banned in 160 countries? Ironic that trump started his term by wanting to ban countries from coming to the USA, only to be banned by Europe, Mexico and Canada...to name a few. Hell, here is my pinned tweet on Twitter, seems a few people agree...yes?
Oh ya, progressives must be elated about that. I'm for the two way ban. We don't need Americans going over there for a nice long while.
Are you using the same name on Twitter? So am I.
Going over where? Canada? Europe? Not for nothing Vic, but I like to travel. Trump has turned the USA into a leper colony.
Yes, that is my screen name, but I am not the only Mr Frost on Twitter. That's why I deleted by address for posting here.
It's the Coronavirus, not the current occupant of the WH. It would have been the same for whoever was taking the advice of Dr Fauci.
So taking the advice of an expert in the field is bad, but taking the advice of a washed up reality TV star is good? I love your sense of humor.
Both are equally horrible.
We took his advice and the buck stops there.
Both are equally horrible.
Then go vote for Kamala Harris.
I plan to.
Trump Says Hong Kong Issue Is 'Tough' Because City Is 'Attached To China'
During an interview with Fox Sports on Tuesday, the president was asked about the situation in Hong Kong, where in recent months China has cracked down with a new national security law that threatens the city's autonomy, and where Hong Kong authorities arrested media tycoon Jimmy Lai earlier this week. Trump didn't exactly echo his national security adviser, Robert O'Brien, who previously said the U.S. is "deeply troubled" by Lai's arrest. He instead complained Hong Kong had made "a lot of money" the U.S. could have made because of "tremendous incentives."
But he did briefly wade into the political situation, simply to say that it's "a little bit tough from certain standpoints" because, when looking at a map, Hong Kong is "attached to" mainland China. And, well, there's no arguing with that.
perhaps you should re -read what I typed and linked...
Nice to know you don't read the responses.
The Administration claims it will have 450 miles of new wall completed by the end of 2020.
That's not true, but I can give them benefit of the doubt and round it down to 1,000 miles with no fences, no walls and no plans or funding..
but now I am repeating myself.
Have you somehow forgotten 2000 Vic?
For a goodly part of our history, the electorate had to wait for PAPER ballots to be counted BY HAND. We survived.
I sincerely hope that Biden has all the lawyers he needs to contest the bullshit that Trump is going to throw after he looses.
Bullshit.
I am so sick of hearing about what Cuomo did. First of all, we were the first to get hit, so both in what we knew about the disease and how to treat it was just being learned. Second, we are nowhere near the top of the list of number of dead in nursing homes.
Those kill boxes as you put it, were supposed to only let back in their ill if they could handle it and they all said they could. Cuomo didn't force them.
Trump is responsible because he was in denial during the very beginning. There is no denying this.
He is still saying that it's going to go away.
Which for me is a plenty good reason NOT to re-elect him.
Under Obama's 2017 budget.
So now donald has absolutely no responsibility? Hate to break it to you but the buck stops with the president, not some advisor...
Unreal the steps some are willing to take in order to cover for him.
Again, under Obama's budget.
Of course you are. At least 6,600 people died in nursing homes, more deaths than in almost every state in total.
The thing is we can't even say exactly how many people in nursing homes were killed because New York, unlike every other state, refuses to count nursing home patients who died in hospitals after being infected in nursing homes. Think of that. Even with a coverup, more people died in New York nursing homes than the entire state of Michigan.
Now. the butcher is refusing an investigation into what happened.
That might be what CNN told you he said, but he never did.
The "buck" always stops with the sitting president. All presidents understand this, up until Dumbo trump took up residence in the People's White House.
No I am using the defense that we were the first in the nation to be hit and hit hard (other than NJ) and for the same reason, we are international hubs and were told that the virus was coming in from China and not Europe... remember? Also, we were the ones trying to figure out what worked and didn't work treatment wise. You can thank our suffering for the current treatments.
Sean,
We lost 32,370 people to Covid, which means that nursing homes got 20%. Guess who beat us out:
Cases and deaths in long-term care facilities, by state
Opps.... I guess we should start an investigation on all those states too.
That should be self-explanatory. There is a link you included but will not work from the Wayback Machine.
first off, that's an invented, meaningless statistic. How is it relevant that so many people in New York died outside of nursing homes when the topic is what happened in nursing homes? The only relevant category when discussing the fate of nursing home patients is nursing home patients.
second, and I assume you missed this, NY is refusing to release how many nursing home patients died in hospitals after contracting Covid. It's impossible to make an apples to apples comparison because New York, unlike other states won't release that number, keeping it's count artificially low (as crazy as calling 6,600 deaths artificially low is).
So yeah an investigation as to why probably more than 10,000 nursing home residents died is in order. Based on the decrease in nursing home populations, estimates are the real number of nursing home deaths might be double the reported number.
So your just guessing and the nursing homes are in cahoots with Cuomo. OK got it. (rolls eyes).
So your saying in a round about way that McCain was the smart one and palin was the moron? well to some , bidens the moron and harris is the smart one....
No, I was just saying that Palin was a moron.
But your mileage may differ.
Not in my opinion.
I’m sure that we will now not lift our travel ban on them coming here that’s been in effect since March until the lift theirs on us traveling there.
I think that we should be able to bash Cuomo and all blue city mayors and other blue state governors for their handling at least as much as they blame Trump for following Dr. Fauci’s advice.
Because you don't like the policies.
I give leaders credit for achievement even if I dislike the policies. For example, democrats had long tried to pass a national health care package, failing miserably under Bill Clinton. In 2009 Barak Obama finally had the opportunity - he had a democrat majority in the House and a democratic Super majority in the Senate. The main course at the time for Obama was supposed to be the recession/economic crisis, but Obama knew this might just be the only window democrats would have for who knows how long, so he rammed it through on a partisan vote in both houses.
Dems paid heavily for that in the midterms, but if you are a progressive that was a great achievement!
I hope not. Let's shut down travel until this is over!
The buck stops at tRump and goes right into his wallet.
She certainly was...she didn't have near the level of education that Senator Harris has. Jesus! Palin barely had a BA in communications! Sen Harris has a juris doctorate
"Not in my opinion."
I'd say that is 80% not in my opinion.
Palin is also a quitter. She quit as governor.
(CNN) Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden 's campaign on Wednesday released a raft of policy recommendations crafted by allies of the former vice president and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, underscoring the party's unity less than four months from November's general election.
That is not his platform.
Those recommendations are not going into the final draft?
Recommendations are just that... recommended. Some might go in, others will not.
I'm sure Bernie Sanders felt they were more than just recommendations. Shall we discuss it then? Then will you tell me again, how moderate he is.
What of my little theory that the dems will have him step down if he does win?
I heard the same theories floated about Trump and yet here we are, so I don't think so.
Then it seems a little ridiculous for the Biden campaign to publish them, doesn't it? Either 1) They are going in, 2) Biden is trying to confuse people, or 3) Biden himself is confused.
Or he is being transparent as to what is being discussed.
Congrats.....You are the only one to actually respond and say you don't think so.
Let us hope we will never have to find out.
The Harris choice suggests Biden's approach if he is elected and gets a majority in the Senate.
I liked Obama but I felt he put himself at a disadvantage by offering olive branches to the Republicans. To me, the selection of Harris suggests that it will be a winner take all approach with the existing Republican Senate rules. It will be a busy, ineffectively opposed, time of legislation.
I kind of like that.
Well, this is awkward...
A good day for Trump. While VP candidates don't move many votes, Trump doesn't have to worry about a far left partisan (4th most liberal voting record in the Senate) with no accomplishments to her name who spent the summer getting domestic terrorists out of jail having much traction with non-crazy left wingers. As her campaign voted, she's not really good at the campaigning thing.
People who will vote for Biden will claim to love her, and her embrace of every far left position will give Trump & Co plenty of ammo to attack Biden with.
Well trump sure seems to like her, Sean, I mean since he donated to her campaign twice.
Probably because he thought she could be bought and didn't want her running one of her illegal investigations into his organization. Trump is always a pragmatist, and a small donation probably saved much more in legal fees.
After taking two minutes to see what happened...Sure enough, I see that Trump swore under oath in an ethics complaint against New York AG Schneiderman, that he made the donations to Harris at the behest of Schneiderman, who was investigating Trump U..
Since when do 'accomplishments' matter to conservatives?
I'd love to see your long list of Mike Pence's 'accomplishments'.
Amazing how some can go from screaming they have to have someone with no experience to shake things up to screaming it is stupidity to have someone with no experience...
Wheels go round in circles...
He doubled the HIV cases in Indiana. That's quite the accomplishment in this day and age
Yes and to do so he had to ignore the state health dept. and the sacrifices were mostly by rural Hoosiers.
I bet those were the ones that made him governor, correct?
As a group, farmers are firmly with Trump/Pence.
Makes one worry about the food one eats...
Perhaps, if one is hysterical enough.
How is that desperation sucking going? Must be getting tiring by now....
This will certainly help Biden. He could have done worse. She is, of course, an historic candidate and will likely energize old Hillary supporters. But, interestingly, she does not bring the typical demographic benefits since Biden (D) already has CA and already has the so-called 'black vote'.
From my perspective, she is the most appealing individual of the four to be PotUS strictly in terms of intelligence, competence and presence. She would, if PotUS, likely cause the world to start thinking the USA electorate is not entirely mad. If Biden-Harris wins, 2024 might just see her at the top of the ticket.
I find this highly likely.
Why?
I have to agree with Tig, Mr. Frost. Biden might not want to run for a second term, and of course, then she would be the next in line naturally.
Did you first write unlikely and then fix that? Or am I reading things?
I changed nothing. I was agreeing with you.
I was agreeing with him as well.
Okay, then I just read it wrong. Sorry.
All good, happens to us all.
Despite what we all have assumed over the years, vice president nominees don't appear to add votes from their home state.
Why VPs Matter Less Than You Think
On the other hand presidential candidates do enjoy a home state boost of about 3 to 7 points.
If true, that really does not matter here since CA is already in the bag for Biden.
In this election, when the top of the ticket on both sides is disappointing, a strong, competent running mate will make a difference. Also, I bet there are plenty of people who are factoring in Biden's running mate; I know I am.
I would have been happier if he had just picked a nicer person or a more principled person. There are a lot of women he could have chosen who fit that description. For me, when I look at Kamala Harris, I see naked political ambition in the form of someone who will say or do whatever it takes to achieve more power. I do not see a servant of the people. He could have made it easier for me to vote for him, but picking Harris makes it harder.
I hear you. It would have been great if a statesperson were on the ticket.
Given this is what we have to work with, I will again note that of the four, Senator Harris would be my preferred PotUS.
I was hoping for Tammy Duckworth but Kamala Harris is a good choice. Glad it wasn't Warren or Rice.
Interesting. I don't know enough about Duckworth except she's a vet. Care to expand on why you were hoping for her?
IMO Warren would have been a better choice for him. She would have appealed more to the progressive left than Harris can. Harris may try to bill herself as a progressive prosecutor but she's more of a conservative than she likes to admit. Her history as a prosecutor and AG as well as her history in the Senate don't seem to provide much data (IMO) on helping the people she is responsible for. I feel as if she was chosen more for the color of her skin than what she can bring to the ticket.
Honestly, part of my thinking/approval is if Biden doesn't make it through the first term. I always liked her, I thought she was a good choice for the democrats for the top of the ticket, and knowing she is first in line should something happen to Joe, I am okay with that.
Yeah, she is not ideal, but compared to the presidential candidates we have seen lately, we certainly could do much worse.
Not ideal, but middle/left enough that I will support her. Basically a female Obama. And, yes, Joe. Of course I am not voting so much for the President as I am the VP considering the age factor.
Good choice. I always liked her for the top ticket, but this is a good runner up prize.
The unearned contempt showered upon Ms Harris guys in the gop illustrates why the gop has such a bad "Woman Problem". Keep it up until the election!
Biden is ahead because Trump constantly says crazy stuff.
Now we'll have ALL Republicans saying crazy stuff.
If the comments I've just read are any indication of this....Biden will easily win
If that's the heaviest baggage that Republican slimers can find... Harris is looking good.
The baggage on Team Trump is just a teen-tiny tad heavier. Like... most of the team are convicted felons...
Could you please avoid formatting everything as a citation? It's confusing.
I could list his former campaign manager, assistant campaign manager, personal lawyer, ... and all the others...
But you know them already.
So they're all in jail?
Except those whom Trump has pardoned.
Except those whom Trump has pardoned.
Interesting, if not predictable choice. I am not sure if she has moved far left or if she was just pushing for the wing nut votes. Too bad we probably won't find out before the election. Since I don't believe Joe will make the term if elected this becomes a very important choice. I do admit I am happy he has not chosen and out and out socialist though. At least that way I don't think too much damage can be done before a more centrist president can be elected.
There is no evidence that Americans nationwide will support this combination of a doddering and drooling old fool, and a shrill left wing activist, chosen only for her gender and the color of her skin....as decreed by the Dem powers that be.
Do you really see them that way? Or are you trying to convince yourself?
Still, waiting for Trump to FIRE Pence, and, hire SATAN?
Still, waiting for Trump to FIRE Pence, and, hire SATAN?
For the record, and to be truthful and factual, a President can not fire a Vice-President.
Not even Trump, no matter what fevered brains dream up.
Can you name one single President in your lifetime that had a different vice President during his second term? And not those who resigned or took other positions.
And how would that blunt Harris as a pick?
well, great. Then we can agree that the most likely scenario is Pence on the ticket.
People suggesting otherwise seem like they are having delusions.
No big deal to me if they choose to ignore reality or want to distort it.
In my lifetime, no. But ....
Franklin D. Roosevelt had different VP's.
1932 - John Nance Garner
1940 - Henry A Wallace
1944 - Harry S Truman
Can you name on single time Trump has stood on Presidential precedent?
Well first of all, it would replace replace Pence, who is an a political failure.
Secondly it would put a smart woman of color in as his VP.
Speaking of smart, if Haley is as smart as everyone seems to think she is, she would turn Trump down. She would have a MUCH better chance in 2024 without Trump's baggage.
A question is not an answer.
Spectacular attempt at deflection, however. Two thumbs up for the attempt!
I understand you don't like Pence. That is just your opinion.
Why? Is pandering so important to Democrats? Rhetorical, I know it is!
Your question hangs it hat on Presidential precedent. Without it, it's irrelevant.
It's an educated opinion since I lived through his 'governance' here in Indiana.
Are you actually positing that Trump's choice of Pence wasn't pandering?
No, that is merely YOUR perception.
Actually Presidential precedent has little to do with it.
Politics is what it is about.
But that's okay, I never expect an answer anyways, and thus am never disappointed in the non-responses I get.
Are you saying that no childish partisanship exists on the left. And it looks like the far left pandering has begun...sure didn't take long
only a matter of time before trumpsters demand to see her birth certificate...
I didn't think nepotism was allowed. Because you know Ol' Scratch is trmp's father
What a load of bullshit.
You asked:
Denying that your question had to do with presidential precedent is laughable.
Yes, prior Presidential political precedent.
Oh, were you really waiting for an answer to the question you already knew the answer to but refuse to acknowledge is irrelevant since Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about what any other President did.
It is either your opinion or not. Your choice, and matters not to me what you deny.
Not to informed people who follow politics.
No, prior political precedent. Why break up a team which has already proven it can win? That would be fucking STUPID, get it?
I don't give a flying fuck what your opinion of Trump is. This doesn't have to do with Trump so much as ANY President in your lifetime who decided to run for a second term. They all pick the same running mate.
You do know that the word 'perception' and 'opinion' mean two completely different things right Tex?
Yet to all people that recognize bullshit, it is...
You tap dance terribly.
I didn't cite my opinion, I cited facts.
Which makes your question even more irrelevant.
As has been said here all too many times, Trump was elected to smash the 'status quo' [precedent] and positing a question with the pretense that it would mean anything in relation to what Trump will do is obtuse.
Yes.
You know the difference between an answer and a question?
Okay, so you don't understand. That's okay, I didn't really expect you to.
I'll check back later and see if someone explained it to you.
Here's a typical tRump voter at Sturgis
Lady (I use the term loosely), Trump would not piss on you even if you were on fire.
He finally got his face on something huge.
Got milk?
Since his big fat face isn't going up on Mt. Rushmore, I guess this will have to do.
Twin Peaks!
AH, my eyes!
Sure hope it doesn't rain while she's "wearing" this
Harris is one pussy Trump can't grab. If he were to try he would find that this kitty has claws.
I am listening to Biden at this moment introducing Harris as his running mate. If this is sleepy then may all politicians be sleepy. He did not make it about him as Trump would do, he made it about Harris and America.
I don't understand the "Sleepy Joe" schtick. Who is supposed to be moved? Trump's voters will be, maybe... but since their vote is a foregone conclusion, they're of no interest.
Biden voters know it's false.
So we're only interested in the few percent of truly undecided. They will be hearing Trump saying "Sleepy Joe", while watching a dynamic, intelligent Biden. It seems to me that Trump is trying to make fools of the undecided... and most people don't appreciate the person who tries to make them fools.
trmp has his nerve calling Biden Sleepy Joe when he feel asleep at his own press conference the other day
Was that where he was sitting on the chair to the side looking like he was taking a shit?
Ummmm... Trout??
Are you really expecting intellectual coherence from the Donald?
I think but all I saw was a 2 minute video clip.
A woman can dream, can't she?
Whenever he is sitting, it appears he's taking a shit. Maybe it's because of the constitution which is shoved up there. Or his supporters.
LOL...so voted up.
A poster on a garbage seed said to this - that they wouldn't want to see Jill Biden naked.
WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!!!
What a moron!!!!