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GOP Rep. Gohmert Says Violence Is Only Recourse After Election Lawsuit Dismissal

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  4 years ago  •  99 comments

By:   Andrew Solender (Forbes)

GOP Rep. Gohmert Says Violence Is Only Recourse After Election Lawsuit Dismissal
'Basically in effect the ruling would be that you gotta go to the streets and be as violence as Antifa and BLM,' Gohmert said.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



After a federal judge dismissed his lawsuit Friday seeking to empower Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election in President Donald Trump's favor, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) suggested the ruling means street violence is the only option for Trump supporters who believe the president's baseless voter fraud claims.

960x0.jpg?cropX1=0&cropX2=4250&cropY1=145&cropY2=2536 UNITED STATES - DECEMBER 3: Rep. Louie Gohmert,[+][-] R-Texas, and members of the House Freedom Caucus conduct a news conference to call on Attorney General William Barr to release findings of an investigation into allegations of 2020 election fraud, outside the Capitol on Thursday, December 3, 2020. (Photo By Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images

Key Facts


Gohmert and several other Republicans sued Pence on Monday in an effort to grant him the authority to count Trump electors in key states won by President-elect Joe Biden during a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6 to certify the Electoral College results.

Trump-appointed federal judge Jeremy Kernodle dismissed the case, writing the plaintiffs "lack standing."

Gohmert hit back at the ruling during a Newsmax appearance later Friday, calling the Electoral Count Act - which gives the vice president only a procedural role in counting electors - unconstitutional and stating "if I don't have standing to [challenge] that, nobody does."

"Basically, in effect, the ruling would be you've got to go to the streets and be as violent as Antifa and BLM," Gohmert added before being cut off by Newsmax host Emerald Robinson.

The comment came as pro-Trump attorney Lin Wood predicted Pence will "face execution by firing squad" for refusing to overturn the election - a comment that prompted even the Trump legal team to distance itself from Wood.

Key Background


Trump surrogates have come under fire a number of times in recent months for promoting violence against the president's detractors. Most notably, former U.S. cybersecurity chief Chris Krebs sued Trump campaign attorney Joe DiGenova for advocating Krebs' execution for debunking Trump's fraud claims.

Chief Critic


Attorneys for Pence responded to the lawsuit on Friday by asking the judge to dismiss the case, arguing "these plaintiffs' suit is not a proper vehicle for addressing those issues because plaintiffs have sued the wrong defendant." The response also noted that, with the lawsuit, Gohmert was asking the court to strip him of his ability to object to the results as a House member.

Big Number


140. That's the minimum number of House Republicans expected to object to certification of the Electoral College results. Additionally, around a dozen Republican senators are considering joining Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) in objecting, according to CBS News. Given that majorities in both chambers of Congress are needed to sustain an objection, the effort is unlikely to do more than delay the inevitable result.

What To Watch For


Gohmert said his attorneys are preparing an appeal to the fifth circuit court of appeals, which he said has "incredible judges" and might be expected to issue a more favorable ruling despite the overwhelming failure of pro-Trump election lawsuits. But with just four days until Congress is set to certify the Electoral College vote, Gohmert's prospects for success are unlikely.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

Grand Old Party !

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
1.3  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

Anyone believe that Louie has the strength of his stated convictions?

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     4 years ago

In addition to the 140 or so Republican house members, I saw today that a dozen Republican Senators will vote not to certify Biden's election with Ted Cruz leading the way. 

Gohmert is truly the dumbest person in congress.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @2    4 years ago

trumpski's goober morons sure do love their lost causes.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    4 years ago

You mean we can’t have what we haven’t earned and don’t in any way deserve?  Then I guess there’s no other option than to be criminals.”  

In a way I hope they do get violent, and get put down like the rabid dogs they are.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    4 years ago

... one step closer to my fantasy of permanently dealing with them. let them try.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.1  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @3.1    4 years ago
my fantasy

You sure do have alot of them...None of which have come true.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.2  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    4 years ago

I disagree. everyone eventually dies.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    4 years ago
Then I guess there’s no other option than to be criminals.”  

So he's advocating to be liberals. How can libs not like that?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @3.2    4 years ago

I know right? He wants to give BLM and Antifa a run for their money.  Not sure I’m ready to do that though.  It is fun watching the left whine about it though.  I’ll bring the cheese .  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.2.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    4 years ago

He wants to give BLM and Antifa a run for their money.

Lol, did I mention either of them?  What I’d like to see is some Proud Boys getting violent and then getting cut in half by DC police gunfire.  Is that clear enough?

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.3  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.2.2    4 years ago

So you would be OK if they did the same to BLM or ANTIFA?

My gut feeling is you would be screaming "they can't breath" if that happened.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.3  Krishna  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    4 years ago

The police are ready for these lunatics:

Here's everything you need to know about the 'March For Trump' rally in DC on Jan 6

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.3    4 years ago
The police are ready for these lunatics:

Shopkeepers are boarding up windows. A smart move given the violence, property damage, and looting some of these groups have done in the past!

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.3.2  Dulay  replied to  Krishna @3.3    4 years ago

They arrested the Proud Boys chairman in DC today. 

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Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    4 years ago
'Basically in effect the ruling would be that you gotta go to the streets and be as violence as Antifa and BLM,' Gohmert said.
Read the quote really carefully, note the damn hypocrisy coming from the left that condoned BLM and Antifa actions.
I don't agree with what he said; but the left's reaction is hilarious. 
Time for Democrats and their minions to reign in their damn leftist Brown Shirts.
 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 years ago

keep wearing that maga hat.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @4.1    4 years ago

Keep pretending that I in any way support Trump. I am anti Democrat.

Keep pretending the Democrats aren't just as bad as Republicans.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    4 years ago

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Krishna
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4.1.3  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @4.1    4 years ago
that maga hat

"Many people" are saying that soon maga hats will be the new "Kick Me" sign.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    4 years ago

Keep pretending that I in any way support Trump.

Sure... no problema! (Many of us would be absolutely delighted to do that).

I am anti Democrat.

Well, you're not alone. You're certainly not the only one on this site that abhors Democracy... so cheer up! jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.6  Krishna  replied to    4 years ago
Who?

Your Owl imitation isn't bad...but still needs a little practice before you're ready for Prime Time! jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 years ago

But, but, just last past 'yesterday' yours were teaching a 'webinar' on how high and mighty and righteous some republicans and some conservatives were because they hold to order and law. Ultimately, it's all bullshit spewing from the shitholes of some red mouths!

Fortunately for us, you keep this bullshit up- in the name of resistance -and you will cast off some more of that 'red' into a purple hewn pond! Hey, #walkaway will be a republican party departure in 2021!

Integrity = 2021!

All ain't no better than anybody else. At least in the case of democrats and minorities they have an interest in seeing that A life or several is not left to die in vain. Y'all covering for a blustering meglamaniac "aire" of some sort who is full of his crazy-assness.

You ought to be ashamed. Yes. Ought to be!

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.3  Thomas  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 years ago

Interesting comparison. 

From Britannica :

SA , abbreviation of Sturmabteilung (German: “Assault Division”) , byname Storm Troopers or Brownshirts , German Sturmtruppen or Braunhemden , in the German Nazi Party , a paramilitary organization whose methods of violent intimidation played a key role in Adolf Hitler ’s rise to power.

The SA was founded in Munich by Hitler in 1921 out of various roughneck elements that had attached themselves to the fledgling Nazi movement. It drew its early membership largely from the Freikorps (Free Corps), armed freebooter groups, made up largely of ex-soldiers, that battled leftists in the streets in the early days of the Weimar Republic . Outfitted in brown uniforms after the fashion of Benito Mussolini ’s Fascist Blackshirts in Italy, the SA men protected party meetings, marched in Nazi rallies, and physically assaulted political opponents. Temporarily in disarray after the failure of Hitler’s Munich Putsch in 1923, the SA was reorganized in 1925 and soon resumed its violent ways, intimidating voters in national and local elections. From January 1931 it was headed by Ernst Röhm , who harboured radical anticapitalist notions and dreamed of building the SA into Germany’s main military force. Under Röhm SA membership, swelled from the ranks of the Great Depression’s unemployed, grew to 400,000 by 1932 and to perhaps 2,000,000—20 times the size of the regular army—by the time that Hitler came to power in 1933.

During the early days of the Nazi regime, the SA carried out unchecked street violence against Jews and Nazi opponents. But it was eyed with suspicion by the regular army and by the wealthy industrialists, two groups whose support Hitler was trying to secure. Against Hitler’s expressed wishes, Röhm continued to press for a “second Nazi revolution” of a socialist character, and he hoped to merge the regular army with the SA under his own leadership. On June 30, 1934, the Night of the Long Knives ( die Nacht der langen Messer ), Hitler, using SS forces, carried out a “Blood Purge” of the SA leadership. Röhm and dozens of SA leaders were summarily executed. Thereafter the SA, reduced in strength, continued to exist but ceased to play a major political role in Nazi affairs. From 1939 it was in charge of training all able-bodied men for Home Guard units.

The Brownshirts seemed a lot more organized than these folk:

#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.

and probably looked and acted a lot more like these folk:

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Now who are you calling the Brownshirts?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Thomas @4.3    4 years ago

Your fucking BLM and Antifa thugs. 

Now you want to get into a pissing match? Check out the Nazi web site and tell us all a single economic policy that any conservative would ever support? Go ahead, educate yourself. They are Socialists with a capital "S".  They have not and never will be conservatives. The left disowned them, and using Goebbel's "repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it" pushed them onto the right.

BLM and Antifa use the same tactics as the Brown Shirts. They try to silence dissenting opinions throw intimidation and violence. Their tactics have been whole heartedly excused and supported by Democrats, the media shills with their "mostly peaceful protesters" BS, and the lemming Democratic followers.

Now when are you going to reign in your leftist Brown Shirts?

We are all waiting. Biden won the election.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.2  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.1    4 years ago
Biden won the election.

WTF? 

So now you are bashing Dear Leader? 

Claiming Biden won? Oh-- the horror!

Be careful Ronin-- keep that up and someday Dear leader will turn on you (or perhaps the phrase "Tweet on You" would be more accurate).

if you continue to insist that Biden won-- you will be tweeted upon and Dear Leader will say unto you:

Ronin--You're Fired!

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.3.3  Thomas  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.1    4 years ago
Your fucking BLM and Antifa thugs.

Testy. You must have confused me with somebody who gives a shit for any party.

I observe. I comment. I think that all political parties should be abandoned because of what I have observed. If I had the slightest control over either mentioned group, I would tell the members with violent tendencies to go home and stay there. 

The BLM movement has been tainted not from within but from without, with the complicity of the right-leaning media who, instead of reporting factual data like the thousands upon thousands of BLM protests that were carried out peacefully by millions of participants in nations all over the world, focused on the few instances where violence broke out. This tactic is known as telling a half truth, or a whole lie . This tactic, otherwise known as propagandizing, is also factually incorrect and/or incomplete, is unethical and, IMO, pretty much stupid, as is the president and anyone who keeps repeating the same old, tired mantra of lies. I recognize that there are also variants of this same type of behavior on the left leaning side of the media, and condemn these also. 

Antifa wasn't much of a presence until Trump and friends started blaming things on them. Indeed, a lot of the so called antifa actions this summer were caused by paranoia, in that there was no actual action by antifa, but the response turned out by the rumors of action. As far as I am concerned, the Alt-right movement gave birth to the American version of antifa as a direct outgrowth of their views after the insemination provided by Trump's tweet-storms. Any violent actions by any protest group are not in the best interests of the group. (Unless they are pro-Trump and then they get a free pass and a Presidential Medal of Poo-poo Freedom.) 

Now you want to get into a pissing match?

I have no interest. Sounds messy and stupid.

Check out the Nazi web site and tell us all a single economic policy that any conservative would ever support? 

Why?

Because there are certain parallels that exist between what happened in 1920's and 30's Germany and the increasingly polarized, politicised and propagandized atmosphere of the current time does not mean that we are heading toward Naziism. That was something peculiar to it's own time and the comparison between either the former or current versions is a non-sequitur. Fascism we definitely need to be aware of and beware of.

BLM and Antifa use the same tactics as the Brown Shirts. They try to silence dissenting opinions throw intimidation and violence. 

No. You are conflating groups whose methods are different. BLM tries to change people's attitudes through protest, education and achieving critical mass socially. The Brownshirts tried to silence opposition by beating and killing it out of people. Antifa almost seems like a revenger of the nerds group. IDK, there may be more organization to them, but it is difficult to tell.

Now when are you going to reign in your leftist Brown Shirts?

I love it. This morning I was given extraordinary powers to reach out and touch someone else's computer, and now I have been granted control of two groups of people, neither of which I belong to, by someone else who belongs to neither. 

I am having a wonderful day!

Makes me wonder what other godlike qualities will be granted me by impotent designers. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.3.4  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.1    4 years ago
Now when are you going to reign in your leftist Brown Shirts?

Probably when you reign in your right-wing racists/bigot/delusion asswipes. 

Good luck.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.3.5  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.1    4 years ago
Biden won the election.

Whoa-- wait a minute!

OMG!

Are you saying the Election wasn't faked-- that Biden legitimately won?

(Tread carefully here Ronin2...tread very carefully! Are you sure you don't want to withdraw that remark...after all, you may well lose some of your very best NT fiends!)

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.6  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.3.5    4 years ago
very best NT fiends!

Ooops-- my apologies. (Typo-- is should read "friends")

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.4  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 years ago
the left's reaction is hilarious.

ROFL!

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cjcold
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5  cjcold    4 years ago

How is saying something like that not a crime?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @5    4 years ago

It will be. However, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is a weak-ass leader who watches the fungus policies he grows so closely that he does not notice that the idiot-bots around him are starting to bounce off the capitol dome! He is responsible to set the tone of the republican senators!

Speaker Pelosi is supposed to get on Minority Leader's A-s-s about Gohmert's funky mouth. Ms. Pelosi should remind McCarthy's sorry ass that when somebody gets killed over a politician's words, she will lay all responsibility for the death/s at the republican house doorstep - hell, or just throw political 'carcasses' inside their capital offices.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
6  SteevieGee    4 years ago

So...  It's treason then.  The taking up of arms against a democratically elected government.  Biden won the popular vote.  The elections were certified by all of the state Governors and Secretaries of State, the electoral college voted giving Biden the necessary votes, and over 60 lawsuits resolved in the courts or dismissed for lack of evidence.  If there is election fraud I want it prosecuted to the full extent of the law.  Bring evidence though or stfu.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  SteevieGee @6    4 years ago

their lawyers have been unable to present any evidence of fraud in any court, while under oath, and yet no trump supporters have questioned that fact. a classic misdirection in order to facilitate trying to end democracy and install trump as the leader of their autocracy.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.1  CB  replied to  devangelical @6.1    4 years ago

If Gohmert, politically ugly, sorry, butt can manage to start a war of political aggression in our democracy, I will eat this computer of mine (and then buy another one, of course)!

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
6.1.2  SteevieGee  replied to  devangelical @6.1    4 years ago

Just like election fraud needs to be aggressively prosecuted, armed insurrection and treason need to be just as aggressively prosecuted.  On Jan 20, Biden will be sworn in.  Any insurrection designed to put somebody else in power at that point is treason.  Additionally, armed insurrection aimed at preventing him from being sworn in as President is also treason.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
6.2  Krishna  replied to  SteevieGee @6    4 years ago
If there is election fraud

What I find ironic is that there was an attempt to commit Election Fraud. And we have irrefutable proof!

(Click the link below):

'I Just Want To Find 11,780 Votes': In Extraordinary Hour-Long Call, Trump Pressures Georgia Secretary Of State To Recalculate The Vote In His Favor

(The irony being, of course, that the fraudster involved was not some poll worker in some imaginary far-away land-- but rather the actual fraudster was . . . Dear Leader himself!!!)
 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7  CB    4 years ago

Incidentally, by this statement alone, Louis Gohmert has destroyed his political promotion chances. The Lincoln Project should light a political 'bun-fire' in his representative community. Here's cheer to the two-year plan that tosses his 'ignorant' self out of public office. Gohmert go get a 'day' job somewhere else!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1  Krishna  replied to  CB @7    4 years ago
Gohmert go get a 'day' job somewhere else!

But who would hire such a total Moron?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8  bbl-1    4 years ago

Some in the GOP are afraid of something.  Could it be dirty Russian/Saudi/Asian money?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8.1  MrFrost  replied to  bbl-1 @8    4 years ago
Could it be dirty Russian/Saudi/Asian money?

Yep. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2  Krishna  replied to  bbl-1 @8    4 years ago
Some in the GOP are afraid of something.  Could it be dirty Russian/Saudi/Asian money?

And in all likelihood not just one thing, but several...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9  MrFrost    4 years ago

14th Amendment. Ghomert is literally pushing for an end to democracy. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
9.1  CB  replied to  MrFrost @9    4 years ago

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

14th Amendment, The Constitution.

No one is allowed to cause insurrection or rebellion! That one, friend 'Frost.'

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

I'll bet the NRA is just licking their chops.  What could make them happier than a civil war over this?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
11  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

This ahole should be charged with sedition for his statement and charged with 2nd degree murder if anyone is killed due to it.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
11.1  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11    4 years ago
This ahole should be charged with sedition

INALB I would imagine there's a good chance that phone call may result in that happening.

But it may take a while-- after all there will be a lot more changes against Dear Leader after he loses the protection of the Presidency!!!

(Apparently several prominent lawyers representing The Southern District of NY are salivating at that prospect-- have spent considerable time in researching and preparing necessary documents, locating witnesses To Trump's numerous crimes-- and are just waiting to pounce! jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
12  Krishna    4 years ago

After Trump is no longer president and no longer has his office to protect him... I wonder if they will put him in the same cell as Gohmert? Trump would drive Gohmert crazy-- err, I mean crazier than he already is! 

And versa-vice!!!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
13  Thrawn 31    4 years ago

Meh, fuck Gohmert. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
14  Thrawn 31    4 years ago

Meh, fuck Gohmert. 

 
 

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