Feds charge over 200 in Capitol riot. We've learned a lot about why it happened.
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WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors have now filed charges against 211 people accused of taking part in the assault on the U.S. Capitol last month, alleging a wide range of motives and behavior, from extreme violence to apparent ignorance that what they were doing was illegal.
Some defendants have been accused of assaulting police officers and threatening to attack lawmakers, while others are charged with the lesser offense of illegally entering a protected building. One father told authorities he wanted to give a son a memorable birthday.
Those charged came from 43 states, with Texas and New York topping the list. Men outnumbered women by about 7 to 1. Twenty were described as military veterans.
"There was absolutely a spectrum of support," said Seamus Hughes, deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University. "In many ways, Jan. 6 was a bug light. It brought extremists from all areas. And they all came with different skill sets."
He added, "You have the militias on one side. On the other side, you have the merely curious, people wrapped up in the moment."
Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, left, and rally organizer Joe Biggs congratulate each other as they return to the march's starting point at the "End Domestic Terrorism" rally at Tom McCall Waterfront Park in Portland, Ore., on Aug. 17, 2019.John Rudoff / AFP via Getty Images file
The FBI said nearly two dozen had ties to right-wing extremist groups, most notably the Proud Boys. Investigators said one of its national leaders, Joe Biggs of Florida, was among the first to enter the Capitol after another member, Dominic Pezzola of New York, used a police shield to break out a window, allowing the first rioters to get in.
Court documents said after Pezzola was inside, he smoked what he called a victory cigar and said on a video that he "knew we could take this mother------ over (if we) just tried hard enough."
Proud Boys leaders from Hawaii and Washington state were also charged, including Ethan Nordean, who was accused of planning in late December for violent action in Washington, D.C., in January.
Federal judge holds hearing for 'Cowboys for Trump' leader who participated in Capitol riot
Three members of a militia group known as the Oath Keepers were accused of making similar plans and of using their cell phones as walkie-talkies during the siege to coordinate their actions. As it was underway, one said, "We have a good group. We have about 30-40 of us," according to court documents.
A month after the siege at the Capitol, details in arrest warrants and indictments have yet to suggest that the raid was the idea of a single person or group. Nor do they specify when the first plans were formulated for storming the building to disrupt the counting of Electoral College votes for president.
The charges against Nordean, for example, say that "he and other Proud Boys members were planning in advance to organize a group that would attempt to overwhelm police barricades and enter the United States Capitol building." But court documents don't indicate exactly when such a plan was hatched.
Police clash with supporters of President Donald Trump who breached security and entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.Mostafa Bassim / Anadolu Agency via Getty Images file
Prosecutors said some of the hundreds who stormed the Capitol were prepared for battle, wearing helmets and tactical gear. At least four were seen on video or in photos carrying baseball bats. Twenty-two are accused of assaulting some of the 140 police officers who officials said were injured during the rioting.
Jeffrey Sabol of New York was charged with grabbing a Washington, D.C., police officer, dragging him down the stairs and beating him. The FBI said Ryan Samsel of Pennsylvania was in the vanguard of people who pushed over police barricades on the Capitol grounds, knocking down a Capitol police officer who hit her head and suffered a concussion.
A New Jersey man, Scott Fairlamb, was accused of shoving and punching a Washington, D.C., police officer. Fairlamb's brother is a Secret Service agent. Court documents said Patrick McCaughey III of Connecticut used a police riot shield to forcefully push against a police officer pinned at a door who cried out in pain.
Trump supporters try to break through a police barrier on Jan. 6, 2021, at the Capitol.Julio Cortez / AP file
No charges have been filed in connection with the death of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick. And the FBI has yet to identify the person who planted two pipe bombs near the Capitol the night before the siege outside the national headquarters of the Republican and Democratic parties.
Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said prosecutors could file charges of seditious conspiracy for anyone considered a leader or commander of the siege, but no such cases have yet been filed.
At the opposite extreme, court documents say some who entered the Capitol seemed unaware it was illegal and claimed they were simply swept up in the fervor. Many later told the FBI they regretted what they did and turned themselves in.
Prosecutors said Dalton Ray Crase, 21, drove from Lexington, Kentucky, with two other men and attended the rally where then-President Donald Trump spoke before the assault. The FBI said he admitted entering the Capitol but said he did not participate in any violence, telling agents, "I think it was dumb that we went in," and adding, "I was breaking the law by being in the Capitol building but it didn't register with me."
Trump supporters near the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.Shay Horse / NurPhoto via Getty Images file
The FBI said James Uptmore of San Antonio was at the Capitol on Jan. 6 as part of a five-day trip to celebrate his son's birthday. Agents said the son, Chance Uptmore, told them he entered the Capitol building "because he was caught up in the crowd and because it was a once-in-a-lifetime event."
The FBI's task of identifying people who entered the Capitol was aided by the more than 200,000 photos and videos sent in by tipsters, including a few who turned in members of their own families, and by the use of facial recognition software to put names to faces.
Investigators said they had little trouble identifying Troy Faulkner of Ohio, accused of kicking in a window. He was photographed wearing a coat that said "Faulkner Painting" on the back.
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It’s mostly Facebooks fault that it happened.
Maximum sentence to all the traitors.
meh, I'm thinking a concrete wall within sight of Arlington.
I thought the criminal is the person who uses the gun, not the gun itself. Isn't that what your ilk always says? Now it's Facebook's fault and not the traitors? lol.
GQP/MAGA... The party of cop killers.....
You forget about the retired St.Louis cop the democrat party killed.
You can't complain endlessly about censorship on Facebook on one hand and then point to them as the reason for what happened because there was freedom of speech. Pick one.
uh yeah, good luck with that, teacher ...
Who shut down Parler, goose?
I don’t talk politics on Facebook. It’s strictly to keep track of friends and distant family. I’d be censored or banned from there for sure. I’ll stick with Parler, Gab, MeWe instead of Facebook and Twitter.
The bottom line...
Amazon...
And who owns the platform on which Parler operated, MAGA?
Different Servers.
Damn! Here comes Perrie using logic again!
Now, who owns the platform on which Facebook operates?
But Parler's fate wasn't decided by Amazon or anyone other than Dan Bogino and
Rebekah Mercer, who fired John Maetz rather than hire more Mods or accept oversight from Amazon or any other
IPS, Russian or otherwise.
Basically corporations avoid lawsuits, they don't seek them out deliberately.
Nothing in this story to disprove that many of them were incited by Donald Trump.
Psssst...... The Earth is round! There are plenty of videos of those arrested clearly stating that Trump was the one that told them to go charge the capitol.
Denial of the facts and truth is foolish and futile by both you and your savior Trump.
They are facing federal charges. Since there is no way to prove that it was Trump that incited this, because there is no way to prove, other than their interpretation, what the intent was from the get go. That is NOW their convenient way of trying to tamp down their own stupidity and maybe get off a little easier. IF they really think that, they heard what they wanted to hear. But I don't think they do. As posted all over the place, this attack was orchestrated long before Trump's speech on inauguration day. To say that Trump "told them" to go charge the Capitol and break in and terrorize is crap. They needed an excuse to excuse their own dumbass behavior and find a scapegoat for said dumbass behavior before the shit hits the fan in court..
Again..... Denial of the facts and truth is foolish and futile by both you and your savior Trump.
Why do you want to save the person that is so against democracy Jim?
Who would that be? The dumbass House Dems who continually moved the goal posts in the first go around trying to oust a duly elected President or the dumbasses that couldn't accept this election? Face it FN1, they just don't want him to run again and it's no holds barred in doing and in achieving that goal? He upset the status quo apple cart and the elitists in Congress just cannot afford to lose the power and influence over the American people.
Oh bullshit. He tried to extort the President of Ukraine into announcing an investigation of Joe Biden, Trump's election opponent. In itself, that was more than enough to impeach him. And they proved it.
The incessant whining of Trump's supporters is doing nothing but getting worse.
Go sell it on Breitbart Jim.... cause that dog don't hunt in the real world!
BTW.... Got any evidence of court admissible, results altering election fraud yet? We're still waiting.....
And Joe Biden extorted the Ukraine to get a prosecutor who was going after Hunters Bosses fired. Six of one half a dozen of the other, or maybe not since Trump was actually trying to uncover a crime while Joe Biden was trying to cover some up. Besides Trump is being impeached because he's supposed to have incited an insurrection during his speech on Jan,6, that's all, but I read the transcript of his speech and I didn't see anything to that effect. The Impeachment charge is bogus, they're just using it because they can't legally impeach him for saying and doing perfectly legal things that the Democrats didn't like but that's the real reason they're going after him.
They found four dead republicans that voted for trump in Pennsylvania.
Evidence says otherwise............
I don't make a habit of responding to deflections...................
BRILLIANT RESPONSE!!!!
First line says... "Evidences says otherwise" Which you never provide...! Ever!
Second line.... "I don't make a habit of responding to deflections..................." When asked to supply evidence...!
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Uh, no. You should try to educate yourself about this instance without using discredited right wing conspiracy media.
Bullshit. My history says otherwise. Your commentary wreaks of a few others around these parts. Would you read it? Would you think about it? Or would you poo poo it and respond as you did above?
About a topic far from the topic of the seeded article. No relevance to the discussion. Evidence of voter fraud is far from it. And your insult aside,
There is documented proof of all of the former occupant of the White House's mob's incitement by the former occupant of the White House.
I cannot believe that every time the subject is brought up, this fact is totally ignored - that the former occupant of the White House - during his incitement to insurrection speech - said that he would go with them - he did not!
This is all the result of the 'right' accepting the former occupant of the White House's loss gracefully. LOL!
Where is that evidence?
You have made quite clear over the years that you wouldn't read it anyway so why do you ask?
In other words..... as usual..... you got dick!
Try posing your evidence.... There are many of us that would enjoy reading what you think passes as "evidence".
Democrats can’t let go of Donald Trump even as a former President, so on Monday House managers walked their article of impeachment to the Senate for a trial. Their goal is to banish Mr. Trump from running for office again. The result may instead be his acquittal and political revival.
Even the Aussies see through it.
It's not that we can't let the former occupant of the White House go - he needs to be held accountable - FOR ONCE.
Why the hell should the former occupant of the White House BE ALLOWED TO RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN?
Because a democracy means the people get to vote for who they want.
Over 7 million people DIDN'T WANT HIM
and won't want him in 2024 EITHER
Then there is no need to fear him!
Who says I fear the former occupant of the White House?
Exactly! Well said.
Trumps lawyers and GOP house managers should go scorched earth on the democrats salt the fields and poison the wells rhetorically in the trial vs the illegitimate total bs sham trial before a kangaroo court. Democrats don’t want healing so call them out on all their hypocrisy and double standards and make it as openly personal as possible for Schumer, AOC, Pelosi, and others.
We are going nowhere and only doubling down on our open and proud support of him. Might as well get those involuntary camps and compulsory re education centers ready as nothing short of that will end our support of him and being vocal about it.
Breitbart is the real world.
Great question !
Factually false.
Biden, (with international support), got a prosecutor that refused to try corruption in the Ukraine, fired. The Ukraine was and is trying to clean up it's act by prosecuting corruption cases. THAT prosecutor refused, so, he was fired.
That's reality. Right wing conspiracy theorists made up the story you are pushing, to feed a political agenda that you apparently bought.
Like I said before, the right wing spins and twists itself into knots trying to attach Biden, (or any other Dem), to any country that is currently out of favor with the right wing.
Biden/Ukraine/Iran/Iraq/Russia/China/etc... All bullshit.
So trump should just get a pass..."because"? It's comical that for the last 4 years trump supporters keep telling Dems to "shut up and deal with the loss", but now, look who doesn't want any accountability and, "unity"?
Hypocrites.
Breitbart is the real paranoid world.
Just wow. Donald just threw Q-Anon and the Senate republicans under the bus (when it comes for them), and guess who is next? (Anybody who gets in the way of Donald's mission to rule the world.) Control and dominate.
Put the crack pipe down; did I just heard you say ,,,
Breitbart is the real world.
But obviously those that vote for Trump are not interested or informed enough to be able to vote. Isn't that right Vic???
So people who weren't interested in voting or informed enough to vote actually went out and voted? That simply makes zero sense.
What exactly is your point here?
Well, to begin with, it is because he has not been convicted of anything that would bar him from running again if he chooses.
You're arguing against Vic here. He claims that if people aren't well enough informed, they should not be allowed to vote.
Did he write the following?
"But obviously those that vote for Trump are not interested or informed enough to be able to vote."
That doesn't show up in your post #2.1.35 as you quoting him.
They look like something you wrote.
I was paraphrasing his quote. His exact quote was:
BTW, his answer to his own question was "no".
paraphrasing isn't necessary
Yeah, because you'll just ignore all of the facts anyway . . . .
your post has ZERO relevance to mine.
Then you didn't read the same story. I noted that planning took place sometime before Trump's speech. I noted that pipe bombs were planted the day before Trump's speech.
I also want to take issue with words being improperly used:
The assault on the Capitol was a riot, and a violent one, but it wasn’t an “insurrection.” It wasn’t a coup. Law enforcement had a tough fight on it's hands but the police were loyal to the Congress and the United States of America. Once the mob was defeated & dispersed, the Members returned to the House chamber and counted the votes. Joe Biden was never in danger of not being rightfully installed as President elect.
The and take control part never happened.
The purpose of the effort was to get Pence to invalidate the election. That is overthrowing the government, as , 1. Pence had no such authority, and 2. The electoral college had reported already and informed that Biden was the winner.
But John, the article shows that extremist groups planned the riot prior to Trump's speech:
Proud Boys leaders from Hawaii and Washington state were also charged, including Ethan Nordean, who was accused of planning in late December for violent action in Washington, D.C., in January.
Three members of a militia group known as the Oath Keepers were accused of making similar plans and of using their cell phones as walkie-talkies during the siege to coordinate their actions.
The charges against Nordean, for example, say that "he and other Proud Boys members were planning in advance to organize a group that would attempt to overwhelm police barricades and enter the United States Capitol building."
"But John, the article shows that extremist groups planned the riot prior to Trump's speech"
At the former occupant of the White House's urging. . .
Remember - 'Stand Back and Stand By?'
He said "go peacefully' remember?
But who cares about the truth, right?
After the riot had been raging for a number of hours already Vic. AFTER people had gotten hurt, AFTER the capital had been breached.
Trump's incitement started long before Jan 6th.
You mean the riot started before the speech!
Got it!
That's right - you now have to move those goalposts.
It seems democrats think showing films of the riot are all they need as "evidence." Yup turn up that volume! It's all about emotion!
The Proud Boys, oath keepers etc, were roughly 10 percent of those that entered the building.
There are some who entered the building that told law enforcement or media that they were there because Trump asked them to.
Had Trump not lied about the election for two months and told these people they needed to have his back , NONE of them would have been there on the 6th. Without Trump's instigation no one would have gone there, period. Not even the Proud Boys.
According to the article, there were a lot of average people who just got caught up in it:
"At the opposite extreme, court documents say some who entered the Capitol seemed unaware it was illegal and claimed they were simply swept up in the fervor. Many later told the FBI they regretted what they did and turned themselves in.
Had Trump not lied about the election for two months and told these people they needed to have his back , NONE of them would have been there on the 6th.
That's like saying if the Titanic had not set sail it wouldn't have hit an iceberg. No John, despite the President's belief that the election was stolen from him, it would be far fetched to assume his intent was to overthrow the government.
Without Trump's instigation no one would have gone there, period. Not even the Proud Boys.
It was meant as a peaceful protest. The President said "Go peacefully...
You don't plan something like this and travel from outside of the state and then suddenly 'get caught up in the moment' and IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE.
It was never meant as a peaceful protest. The former occupant of the White House said 'go peacefully' after he incited his mob and watched it unfold on TV.
BUT MANY DID NOT PLAN IT. MANY GOT CAUGHT UP IN IT.
READ IT AGAIN!
NO
You don't want to read?
Alright.
To each his own.
For those who may not know, this is Jeff Tiedrich:
Yes, and?
Hours after the attack, Trump asked members of the mob to "go home with love and peace" and referred to them as "great patriots." He also wrote that they would "remember this day forever."
So will you and I and several million others...............
Oh goody, we actually agree
He who thinks he IS the government, has no intention of overthrowing himself, but it would be paramount for him
to remain in power by having the votes changed by any means possible.
The political left doesn’t
3 hours after the riot started and only because his handlers told him to.
Too little too late.
I never want to hear how the right wing supports the, "Boys in Blue", again after they murdered a cop on the steps of the capitol because they couldn't accept that trump fucking LOST.
Nice picture...and?
That's bull patty. Did the organized attempt happen? Enough of these sophomoric anti-truth games! It's stomach-churning. People are dead and some conservatives won't even mention their graves! It's beyond shameful. Its putrid!
Unfortunately, the operative word from your definition is "attempt".....
From Merriam Webster: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
From Vocabulary.com :
Well, the Boston Tea Party used to be the "most famous American act of insurrection"
Were they or were they not acting against the the Constitutionally defined authority of the United States Government?
Sedition lookups spiked 1500% on Merriam Webster the 6th of January .
As is clearly shown, if you use the real meanings of these words, that both acts of insurrection and sedition occurred on the 6th. Unless someone just wants to play Trump and totally ignore the facts.
No, the former occupant of the White House told his mob - several hours after they had 'Stormed the Capitol'! that he loved them and that they were special and they should go home now.
which proves incitement how exactly?
Because they clearly following his directives.
you must have misunderstood the question.
Anoon tessylo...when Trump said they were special...I wondered if he was referring to them as mentally impaired??
Here if you refer to someone as special, that is what it means. Would be different if he said you are special to me etc...so in some respects you can take it either way..
Yup, along with the former occupant of the White House announcing the 'rally' on January 6th, 2021 - weeks ahead of time - he also gave a lot of his supporters the go ahead with, remember, 'Stand Back and Stand By'?
Yup, they have so much evidence/s. I suppose that's why the House rushed impeachment without hearings and have not a single witness scheduled for the trial.
The morons who did this plotted it beforehand on social media and bragged about it, to the press, social media - took selfies of - themselves in the act - and then posted that on social media. With many saying that they did this because the former occupant of the White House told them to.
But Tess, that means that Trump's speech on January 6th did not incite the riot. That's what the so-called impeachment was built on.
No, it doesn't. This was all done at the urging/incitement of the former occupant of the White House, including those QANon whackjobs whom he supports and encouraged/encourages who are in Congress - Taylor-Greene, and Boebert - whackjobs.
No, it just means it was Trumps words and actions since losing in November as he constantly lied about supposed election fraud and told his loyalist the election was stolen and rigged which culminated with his speech on January 6th and his clear call to action based on the lies he'd been repeating for months.
Is there any doubt that the insurrection would not have happened had Trump conceded when it was blatantly clear to everyone that he had lost the election? Is there any doubt these unhinged seditionists would not have acted the way they did and felt they had Trumps approval had he not continued that shameless rhetoric up until just minutes before the attack? Is there any question at all that there would have been no planned attack if Trump had not planned his speech that day telling all his faithful to be there and then continued to rile them up against the members of congress and Mike Pence who were at that moment attempting to do their constitutional duties and proceed with a peaceful transfer of power? Of course not, we all know Trump has blood on his hands, trying to duck and dodge, deflect and defend for this clear criminal is just sad, ignorant and shameless.
Besides, the number that were doing the planning and were far smaller in number than the thousands that showed up and were led en masse into the capital. Would they have been able to do what they did if it had been the few dozen who had pre-planned the attack but didn't have the crowd Trump had just riled up at the speech behind them?
READ THE CHARGES:
You are correct DP. If Trump had not lied about the election for two months and riled his activist base up no one would have marched on the Capitol on the 6th. There would have been no reason to.
Just stop with the 'redirection' and gaslighting. Donald Trump only had to keep his big damn mouth and manipulations in the White House with him. But no! That stupid, dirty bastard had to be a 'royal' pain up to and touching eyeballs. And some conservatives got 'talking points' for us? Un-damn believable!
Here are the charges from Vic's link :
The Charges do, in fact, contain his actions before January 6th.
200? That's a lot of folks trying to play head badminton with flag poles and fire extinguishers.
"It’s mostly Facebooks fault that it happened."
That's akin to blaming carrier pigeons for WWI.
Nice analogy..
It’s a valid counter to the absolute bs lie that it all happened on Parler. The wrong social media was deplatformed after the riot.
Do Trump supporters understand nuance and blame assessment? Trump supporters, its the lies, the gaslighting, the lack of a balance scale, the no apology motto, the cruelty quotient, the open and deliberate demonization and "Other-izing" of those who do live as supporters do, and the stupid waste of time co-oping and feigning grievance (when the world has 'gushed' into your pockets for hundreds of year)s.
But I thought all those insurrectionists had been banned from Face Book before all this happened? Weren't you bitching about face book and twitter censorship before Jan 6?
Bingo.
Now the new conspiracy theory is that the attackers were not Trump supporters or GOP but actors, BLM and Antifa
and that security was complicit and allowed this.
To what end?
Who knows.
Michigan State Senator Shirkey knows, just ask him.
Michigan state Senate leader Mike Shirkey apologizes for calling Capitol riot a hoax (msn.com)
I wonder too. After all, they would have to stand with Donald at the White House January 6, and listen and hem and haw approval of his bull patty.