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Dissecting the "anti-Asian" narrative and the progressive mind.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 years ago  •  250 comments

Dissecting the "anti-Asian" narrative and the progressive mind.
"Racism is in America, and it has always been," Harris said. "Xenophobia is real in America and always has been -- sexism, too."

Last week the nation heard of the random killings of 8 people in Atlanta GA and an Atlanta suburb. The suspected gunman, Robert Aaron Long, 21, of Woodstock, Ga., was captured Tuesday night.

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Robert Aaron Long

The suspect admitted to the murders and was asked why he committed the senseless crimes. He said that he was a sex addict and wanted to destroy temptation:

"Officials said Long has claimed he committed the shootings because he has a "sex addiction" and wanted to eliminate his temptation. However, authorities are also considering if the crimes may have been racially motivated – despite the suspect's denials – because six of the victims were Asian women. The other two victims were both White."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-shooting-suspect-robert-long-rehab-sex-addiction-former-roommates


Does a mentally deranged man need proof of what he tells us are his motivations?

There is more:

Tyler Bayless, 35, told  Reuters  and  USA Today  that he spent months living with Long in an Atlanta halfway house named Maverick Recovery in late 2019 and early 2020.
"In the halfway house he would describe several of his sexual addiction 'relapses' as he called them," Bayless told Reuters. "He would have a deep feeling of remorse and shame and say he needed to return to prayer and to return to God."

He faces a certain murder conviction no matter what he says. Why would he therefore lie about his motivations? So why do progressives continue to try and make this out to be an anti-Asian hate crime?

Joe Biden had this to say: "Whatever the motivation, we know this: Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake."

His vice president said: "For the last year, we've had people in positions of incredible power scapegoating Asian Americans," she said. "People with the biggest pulpits spreading this kind of hate." 
"Racism is in America, and it has always been."  "Xenophobia is real in America and always has been -- sexism, too."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-harris-condemn-violence-against-asian-americans-on-georgia-trip/ar-BB1eJwOX?ocid=uxbndlbing

So, progressives openly lie about this being an Anti-Asian hate crime. The question is why?

I believe there are two reasons. One is obviously to blame Donald Trump for using the term "China virus." Clearly there is nothing wrong with that. The virus originated in China and beyond that the CCP blatantly allowed it to spread to the world. The second reason is to find a way to confirm the progressive view of America as being evil and "racist." Only progressives don't seem to understand that when you have to create a racist act, like Jussie Smollett and others have done, it only goes to prove that the opposite must be true - that America is a decent and even handed nation. Thus, may be why so many non-whites choose to enter the country by any means possible.

Where do progressives get their evidence of all this anti-Asian activity? It all seems to be coming from sources such as "the Stop Asian American Pacific Islander Hate national coalition." Has anyone ever catalogued all the black on Asian attacks that took place in places like Oakland (Kamala Harris hometown) or San Francisco?  Why wasn't that a concern for the left?

There was a time when the new left (what I call the modern progressive) was fighting for causes like freedom of speech and real reforms. That was back in the late 60's, when they were on the outside looking in. One of their first newspeak terms was "the establishment." That was the term for all the institutions that brought stability to our society. Fifty-three years later and the left now controls all the levers of power. Ironically, they no longer believe in free speech, equality or even freedom of thought.



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

To those who voted for "normalcy": Is this what you voted for?


I am not the topic

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

Because there was no gun violence before the election?

 
 
 
CB
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1.2  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

Are you kidding? You write an OP/ED and then set your viewpoint apart from yourself? Wow, Vic.

Anyway:

- that America is a decent and even handed nation. Thus, may be why so many non-whites choose to enter the country by any means possible.

The U.S. is a great many good and decent things, but some conservatives within it can not square decency and even-handedness with choosing Donald Trump as the face and leader of the Republic Party!  There ain't a damn thing normal about that choice. It reeks of indecency, imbalance, and danger .

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As for non-white entry into the country, they come for the peace this country PROMISES them and Whites alike. Certainly these folks to not for the sad, pathetic, malcontent, and never satiated Whites and parse number of Others, who work day in and day out to debase and thwart the ambitions of minorities .

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

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bbl-1
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1.4  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

I believe it would have clearer merit to discuss the 'Anti Asian' narrative and the regressive mind.  

It appears the fulcrum of this ( journalistic piece ) leans toward an attitude that progress leads to narratives against certain people or ways of life.  

I read this twice and can not piece ( that ) together or comprehend how or why 'progressive' thought would denigrate itself in order to denigrate others of the same ilk.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

What does President Biden have to do with this scumbag who targeted Asian women?

Just because he said it was to resist temptation, we should believe him?  The answer to his problems is murdering the women?  He couldn't keep his little dick in his pants so he killed these women?  Like most on these scum, they blame everyone else for their actions.  

Anti-Asian violence has gone up 150% since the former occupant of the White House called it Kung Flu.  He must have been a supporter.  Some were wondering where this inbred little scumbag was on 1/6/21.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2  Gsquared    3 years ago
random killings

These were not "random killings".  The victims were specifically targeted by the murderer as a result of his delusions.

Why would he therefore lie about his motivations?

That question underlies the biggest fallacy.  Why would anyone believe what a murderer says?  It is clear that Trumpist so-called conservatives have latched onto what are allegedly the delusional murderer's words about his motive to deflect from Trump's racist anti-Asian incitements.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @2    3 years ago
t is clear that Trumpist so-called conservatives have latched onto what are allegedly the delusional murderer's words about his motive to deflect from Trump's racist anti-Asian incitements.

While you ignore all evidence of his motive to cling to your theory that somehow Trump is too blame for everything.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    3 years ago
all evidence of his motive

All evidence?  The police telling us he said he did it based on his "sex addiction" is hardly "all" evidence.

your theory that somehow Trump is too blame for everything

Where did I say that?  In my opinion, the fault for the murders belongs with the murderer.   But that doesn't excuse Trump's racist anti-Asian incitements.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.1    3 years ago
police telling us he said he did it based on his "sex addiction" is hardly "all" evidence.

Fine. What evidence do you have to support that it was racially motivated?

Where did I say that?

Did you not understand your own comment? You imply  the murderer's confession is a deflection from the real cause of the shootings, Trump's "racist anti-asian incitements."  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    3 years ago

Personally guys I think it was a combination of using hookers, crossing the race barrier in sex and his religious beliefs.

Not a good combination !

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    3 years ago
Fine. What evidence do you have to support that it was racially motivated?

So far just the FACT that after he hit on Asian business, he drove to Atlanta and hit  another Asian business. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.1.4    3 years ago

They were all in the Atlanta area.........................jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

And no. He hit another massage parlor staffed by Asian people.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.6  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.5    3 years ago
They were all in the Atlanta area.........................

The first hit was in Cherokee County about 30 miles away from the second in Atlanta with multiple other 'massage parlors' in between. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.1    3 years ago
Trump's racist anti-Asian incitements.

When did he do that?

Be specific....and calling a flu where it started is not a new precedent.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.4    3 years ago
So far just the FACT that after he hit on Asian business, he drove to Atlanta and hit  another Asian business

So you think all spas are Asian owned? For someone that is Asian descent, that still sounds pretty bigoted.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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2.1.9  Drakkonis  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.1    3 years ago
But that doesn't excuse Trump's racist anti-Asian incitements.

Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't recall Trump making anti-Asian incitements. Maybe you just mean his insistence on calling it the China Virus? If so, speaking for myself, I felt not the least amount of anger for the smallest fraction of a second against Asians for the Covid outbreak. I felt a lot of it toward the CCP. I think most feel the same way. 

Or perhaps you speak of Trump talking about how the CCP is sending spies over here to steal whatever isn't nailed down, infiltrate our organizations and governments and set up propaganda organizations. All true things. Again, that doesn't make me feel anti-Asian. It makes me feel anti-CCP. It does make me think we need to look at every single Chinese citizen with a fine tooth comb and send any with the least connection to the CCP packing. That doesn't make me anti-Asian. It makes me someone with common sense. 

I think most people feel the same, on the conservative side anyway. Sure, there's always going to be people who are genuinely anti-Asian, but they don't really need an excuse for doing things anyway. Trump isn't to blame for what they do. Right now, Biden isn't calling it the China virus but he seems to definitely be getting in the CCP's face. That is going to "incite" anti-Asian sentiment just as much because these people are already prone to do so, no matter who's in charge. They're going to see Biden's hard stance against China and be encouraged by it just as much as you feel the were by Trump. That's just how they think. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.10  Gsquared  replied to  Drakkonis @2.1.9    3 years ago

I am strongly in opposition to the CCP, as are all on the liberal side who I know.

If you don't think that calling the virus the "Kung Flu" is a racist jibe, I don't know what to tell you.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.4    3 years ago
So far just the FACT that after he hit on Asian business, he drove to Atlanta and hit  another Asian business

The very businesses he was a customer of.  

Guess how many Asian massage parlors he passed up between Cherokee County and Atlanta? Hint..it's more than 20.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.12  cjcold  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.1.3    3 years ago

Just call it bad wiring.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.13  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @2.1.12    3 years ago

Killers like to kill. Knew a few. 14 year old kids become recruited and trained as killers in the US military these days. 

Kids are the best at video games. War is all about video games these days.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.14  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.8    3 years ago
So you think all spas are Asian owned?

WHERE the fuck did I say ANYTHING about ALL spas bugsy? 

For someone that is Asian descent, that still sounds pretty bigoted.

Well since someone of Asian descent POSTED it, it's more likely the readers bias interpretation. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.11    3 years ago
The very businesses he was a customer of.  

You KNOW that HOW Sean? 

Guess how many Asian massage parlors he passed up between Cherokee County and Atlanta? Hint..it's more than 20.

How many non Asian massage parlors did he pass up? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.16  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.14    3 years ago
WHERE the fuck did I say ANYTHING about ALL spas bugsy? 

Maybe you need to read your post to understand it.

"Well since someone of Asian descent POSTED it, it's more likely the readers bias interpretation."

I know who POSTED it. That's why I made the comment I did.

You don't like it?

Not my problem.

BTFW, Dulay, your insinuation is that because he hit Asian businesses, he was a raging racist that targeted only Asians.

I bet MSDNC and CNN did not tell you he also killed at least 2 whites.

You probably still believe the shooter in Colorado is white, dontcha?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.17  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.16    3 years ago
BTFW, Dulay, your insinuation is that because he hit Asian businesses, he was a raging racist that targeted only Asians.

Bullshit bugsy. I haven't said a fucking thing about the shooter being a racist. 

How about you refrain from trying to hold me responsible for your fallacious interpretation of my comments.  

I bet MSDNC and CNN did not tell you he also killed at least 2 whites.

You lose. I posted the names and ages of the victims in another seed 4 DAYS ago and my source was neither of the above. 

You probably still believe the shooter in Colorado is white, dontcha?

What color do YOU think he is bugsy? He sure doesn't look black, red or yellow...

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.18  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.17    3 years ago
Bullshit bugsy. I haven't said a fucking thing about the shooter being a racist.

You said he hit Asian businesses. If you had just said he hit several spas, then the bigotry would have maybe been less.

"What color do YOU think he is bugsy? He sure doesn't look black, red or yellow..."

According to the loon liberal left, he is not Irish, Canadian, British, or any other European origin, so therefore, he is automatically embraced as a "person of color".

Prove me wrong.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.19  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.18    3 years ago
According to the loon liberal left, he is not Irish, Canadian, British, or any other European origin, so therefore, he is automatically embraced as a "person of color". Prove me wrong.

You're deflecting by citing ethnicity bugsy.

You know that ethnicity and COLOR are two different things right?

You bet that I think the shooter is WHITE. WHITE is a COLOR.

He ain't the other three COLORS [black, red or yellow] that we use to characterize people, so he's white. Of course, should he self identify differently, I would accept his personal preference. 

Now if you had said Caucasian, I would say that I KNOW that he is in fact Caucasian by definition. 

BTFW, those of European origin aren't the only ones who qualify as Caucasian. Look it up. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.19    3 years ago

Well, I see you are deflecting from the fact that he was automatically assumed by the loon left that he was white....nothing of ethnicity.

The left cares nothing about ethnicity, but it is all about the color of one's skin. Maybe you don't know how to use the sliding skin scale the left has issued out.

Face it, Dulay, if this guy had skin color of ANYTHING other than white, and shot up a bunch of WHITE people, you would never hear about it because the left would not want you to.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @2.1.20    3 years ago

No, deflection, projection, and denial are your MO

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.22  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.21    3 years ago
No, deflection, projection, and denial are your MO

And yet, you have never been able to refute anything I have posted...ever!!

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.23  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.20    3 years ago
Well, I see you are deflecting from the fact that he was automatically assumed by the loon left that he was white....nothing of ethnicity.

I see that YOU are deflecting from the fact that YOU insisted that I believe he is WHITE. No one else bugsy, ME. 

The left cares nothing about ethnicity, but it is all about the color of one's skin.

MORE deflection. YOU brought up ethnicity AND skin color. 

Maybe you don't know how to use the sliding skin scale the left has issued out.

I LIVE it every fucking day bugsy. 

Face it, Dulay, if this guy had skin color of ANYTHING other than white, and shot up a bunch of WHITE people, you would never hear about it because the left would not want you to.

You must be presuming that my news sources are as limited as yours are. Just stop. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.24  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.23    3 years ago
I LIVE it every fucking day bugsy. 

You live in a blue city, no?

Don't be surprised.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.25  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.24    3 years ago
You live in a blue city, no? Don't be surprised.

NO. I live in a rural area of blood RED Indiana and have NEVER been surprised by the racism and xenophobia here. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.26  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.25    3 years ago

So maybe you should try and educate that population you believe is racist instead of just making accusations of those you don't even know.

People need to speak to each other instead of accusing them of things they know nothing of them.

Just sayin'

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.27  CB  replied to  bugsy @2.1.20    3 years ago

What person of color goes around shooting up "a bunch of White people"? The closest you can come is a Muslim sympathizer (Boston Marathon) and John Allen Muhammad (Beltway  (D.C.) Sniper) and these folks routinely "pollute" the count with others whom they cross paths. Besides all that the MSM reports such activities routinely as a matter of newsworthiness.

Care to continue?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.28  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.26    3 years ago
So maybe you should try and educate that population you believe is racist instead of just making accusations of those you don't even know.

They are known by their deeds bugsy. 

People need to speak to each other instead of accusing them of things they know nothing of them.

Both they and I know all we need to know about racism and xenophobia. 

I HAVE 'checked' every young [and some old] man of every race I have worked with here over the decades. Whether it's misogyny, racism or homophobia, the LEAST they do is STFU when they are around me. Once called out, most of them are embarrassed and apologetic and many have become guys I can call on at the drop of a hat. A crew of them will be coming over this weekend to remove a bad tree from my property. I will be feeding them. 

Just sayin'

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.29  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @2.1.28    3 years ago
I HAVE 'checked' every young [and some old] man of every race I have worked with here over the decades. Whether it's misogyny, racism or homophobia, the LEAST they do is STFU when they are around me. Once called out, most of them are embarrassed and apologetic and many have become guys I can call on at the drop of a hat. A crew of them will be coming over this weekend to remove a bad tree from my property. I will be feeding them. 

Well there ya go. Complaining about something you have some control over gets you...and them...nowhere. I don't have a problem checking those with bigoted views. I do it here quite often.

Understanding who you are dealing with may just be an misunderstanding about them...or you.

Actually...I'm glad you are getting that tree knocked down.

You serving pancit and lumpia?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.30  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @2.1.29    3 years ago
Well there ya go. Complaining about something you have some control over gets you...and them...nowhere.

Making a statement isn't complaining bugsy. Stop twisting my words. 

You serving pancit and lumpia?

No. Pork verde.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Gsquared @2    3 years ago
Why would anyone believe what a murderer says?

He confessed to the killings. No one seems to have a problem believing that . What would he gain now by lying about his motivation? It’s not as if he had a shot at a light sentence, and I see no reason to think he is worried about his reputation. There is also corroborating evidence from people who know him.

“I never took him for a racist,” a look at the suspect charged in area spa killings

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    3 years ago

"What would he gain now by lying about his motivation? It’s not as if he had a shot at a light sentence, and I see no reason to think he is worried about his reputation."

With a hate crime enhancement, if there is a death penalty, he could get the needle.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.2.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tacos! @2.2    3 years ago
What would he gain now by lying about his motivation?

His life ? 

If convicted of a hate crime he may pay in prison from the gangs. 

Likely he hasn't even thought that far in advance though. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    3 years ago
With a hate crime enhancement, if there is a death penalty, he could get the needle.

Here is a link to Georgia's death penalty law . It lists all the ways someone can get the death penalty. Committing a crime because of race or nationality isn't one of the options.

Georgia's recently passed (and apparently untried) hate crime law just adds time to the sentence. It doesn't appear to create an avenue to the death penalty. Here is a link to the hate crime sentencing enhancements . In the case of felonies, five years is added to the sentence. I doubt very much this guy had any illusions about the fact the the penalty for his crime would - at minimum - be life in prison.

So, as I said, it doesn't look like he is going to benefit from having a non-racial motivation to commit mass murder.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.2.2    3 years ago
His life ?

Georgia's death penalty doesn't appear to have anything to do with hate crime enhancements. The worst that hate crime enhancement could do would be to add 5 years to his time (although it could be 5 years per victim would would increase any minimum time). He's going to get life (or death) anyway, so it makes no difference.

Likely he hasn't even thought that far in advance though. 

I agree.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.6  Gsquared  replied to  gooseisgone @2.2.4    3 years ago
If it happened in LA he would probably be out on bail. 

Stupid comment.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.8  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    3 years ago

God forbid his motivation could mimic yours.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.3    3 years ago

Whatever

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.6    3 years ago
"If it happened in LA he would probably be out on bail."
"Stupid comment."

What else is new?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  gooseisgone @2.2.11    3 years ago

No, it's not accurate.  But you admit it's stupid.  LOL!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.13  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @2.2.8    3 years ago

What does that even mean?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3  devangelical    3 years ago

tsk, tsk, tsk, scratch another georgia trump voter in 2024.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    3 years ago

""the establishment.""

Now known as the swamp? Were there too many syllables in the original term for Trumpists?

Moving to another question, are Asians also lying when they call this a hate crime?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    3 years ago

Sorry, but the assertion that this was racially motivated is absurd. Trump's comments were directed to the duplicitous and corrupt Chinese Commie government, not toward Asians or Asian-Americans. in general

If you knew any Asian Americans, you would be aware of this. But it's in the DNA of the leftists to cast blame on Trump or Republicans for all kinds of things are not true, and then exploit the lies. 

Once again...there is no systemic or widespread or anti-Asian sentiment or racism in this country, the evidence is simply not there.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @5    3 years ago
If you knew any Asian Americans

I know a lot of Asian Americans.  One of my closest friends, who is Asian American, is very scared and has written me emails about it.  He has included other Asian American friends of his on his emails about this topic, and they also have been expressing significant concern for their safety in their reply emails.

 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Gsquared @5.1    3 years ago

Amazing how some on here seem to know what Asians feel and think or what a killer's motivations were. 

Our neighbors are Korean and own a restaurant here in Ocala and he now has a shotgun under the counter and both he and his wife carry and yes, they are very concerned about their safety.  But being Korean what do they know compared to our non-Asian experts on NT. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    3 years ago

The fact that Korean Americans are fearful speaks to the fact that few of those who have been attacking Asian Americans either verbally or physically could tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese or other South Asian populations. The bigots who are perpetuating these attacks live in such an insular protectionist 'white culture' society that they have no clue as to the broad differences between the different Asian communities, their habits, politics and beliefs and just stupidly lump them into one bowl of "other" similar to how some Americans reacted to the Sikh population after the 9/11 attacks simply because they wore turbans.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @5.1    3 years ago

My office managers daughter in law (who is Japanese) is going back to Japan because of the harassment and stalking she has been facing.  Also another of her family members (who is a Pacific Islander) is also going home due to being harassed and assaulted.     

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    3 years ago
going back to Japan because of the harassment and stalking she has been facing

Sadly that is the exact reaction these worthless bigots attacking Asian Americans desire.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Gsquared @5.1    3 years ago
One of my closest friends, who is Asian American

So what? My wife s is Filipina and is not scared at all. As a matter of fact, the only racial slurs she has endured is by blacks.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  bugsy @5.1.5    3 years ago

My wife is also Filipina.  She has not expressed any fear, but my Chinese (Chinese-American) friend has, as have some of his Asian-American friends.  What does that fact that your wife is Filipina have to do with other people?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
5.1.7  pat wilson  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.6    3 years ago
What does that fact that your wife is Filipina have to do with other people?

Nothing but we hear about it ad nauseam.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.1.8  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @5.1    3 years ago

The only Asians I have ever known for any amount of time are martial artists and/or musicians whom I have the greatest respect for.

Earned my first black belt at 14. Have a Kanji tat on my forearm. Slept with a Chinese stripper for a few months at one point in time. Taught Arnis in the PI for a year. Asians are just like anybody else on this ball of dirt. No better; no worse.

Yo-Yo Ma just put on an impromptu concert at a vaccine location. How cool is that? As a bassist have always admired his virtuosity on the cello and he has effected my fingering on the fretless bass as much as Jaco did.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.6    3 years ago
"What does that fact that your wife is Filipina have to do with other people?"

Absolutely nothing, as usual

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Gsquared  replied to  cjcold @5.1.8    3 years ago

Aside from the Chinese-American friend I mentioned, who lives in Hawaii, I have been and still am friends and/or co-workers with many other Asian-Americans, including other Chinese-Americans, many Japanese-Americans and others.  I have had Filipino friends and co-workers for years, even before I met my wife.  Since I married a Filipina, I now know many, many Filipinos.  I am "Uncle" to several nieces and nephews, although some of them are her cousins' children, and even children of  family friends.  They all call me "Uncle" as is there custom.  I have also represented many Asian and Asian-American clients, as well as clients who were Tongan, Samoan.   The mechanic who has been taking care of our cars for years is from Thailand.   He is awesome and has become a friend.  He even invited me to a festival at his Thai Buddhist temple a couple of years ago.  As an aside, I also have several Black friends, some of whom are among our greatest musicians.

I used to play bass just for fun, but I had to stop a few years ago when I developed fairly severe arthritis in my fingers.  Yo-Yo Ma putting on a concert at a vaccination location is very cool.   Jaco was awesome, of course.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.6    3 years ago
What does that fact that your wife is Filipina have to do with other people?

Hmmmmm...above, there are 3 posts, including yours, before mine, that claim to "know" people of different Asian countries, but decided to question me as to why I mentioned the race of my wife.

I wonder why you did not ask them the same question.......what...no I don't.

As a side note, many blacks...and white liberals, claim that many white people are racist if they say that they have black friends. Does that logic include blacks that say they have "friends" from other races?

You don't have to answer. We already know it.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Gsquared  replied to  bugsy @5.1.11    3 years ago

Hmmmmm....  I didn't ask you why you mentioned the race of your wife.   Read my question carefully.   

It's interesting that you claim your wife is Asian.  But that fact that you claim she has no fear has no bearing on whether other Asians do.

You don't have to answer. We already know it.

I'm convinced that you don't. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.14  Gsquared  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.12    3 years ago
Keep exposing hypocrisy and double standards.

Except, he didn't.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.16  Gsquared  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.15    3 years ago

No.

He didn't.

Not my problem if some people pretend like he did. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
5.1.17  bbl-1  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    3 years ago

The MAGA roam.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
5.1.18  bbl-1  replied to  bugsy @5.1.5    3 years ago

Nicely slipped that in, right?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @5    3 years ago
mp's comments were directed to the duplicitous and corrupt Chinese Commie government, not toward Asians or Asian-Americans

That's the new way to stifle criticism of the CCP.  Criticizing the Chinese  government is intentionally conflated with attacking the Chinese people, and the leftist mob comes for you.

It's playing out at the UCSD law school where left wingers and racist agitators are trying to get a professor fired for criticizing the CCP.

 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.4  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @5    3 years ago

This 66 year old white man who grew up in a small Kansas town says different.

Racism and violent bigotry are rampant among sub 90 IQ religious fools.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
7  Hallux    3 years ago

OK ... so the author would have us believe the 'I can't stop masturbating' guy and Atlanta had only Asian Massage Parlors to choose from. Sorry but if this was an Asian who did the shooting at white staffed spas he'd be strange fruit by now.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1  Ronin2  replied to  Hallux @7    3 years ago

Right, because we have so much lynching in this country now. 

If this was an Asian shooting at white staff they would never get a charge of racism to stick. That is not how this country works. The narrative is only whites can be racist; and be charged with hate crimes.

Hell, Latinos have to be careful; because the left will dump them in with whites if they commit a crime against another minority. The left have a wonderful slide rule for racism they love to use. See George Zimmerman for a good example. 

Obama didn't could even call out an ISIS/ISIL terrorist- for shooting up a military base and killing US soldiers. It was "work place violence".

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7.3  Tacos!  replied to  Hallux @7    3 years ago
he author would have us believe the 'I can't stop masturbating' guy and Atlanta had only Asian Massage Parlors to choose from.

How much do you know about massage parlors and illicit sexual activity? Asian spas are the majority of such places. That is well documented as I have linked in other seeds. A reputation exists that has been well-earned. There is a lot of human trafficking that pulls women from Asian countries into this kind of work.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
7.3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @7.3    3 years ago

And captain dumbass went to Asian spas because they are less expensive.............and more likely to deliver. Probably pissed cuz he was running out of cash and couldn't get the "frequent pervert" discount.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
7.4  zuksam  replied to  Hallux @7    3 years ago
shooting at white staffed spas

Therein lies the only thing about this that might be racist, if there were White Staffed Spas they would have been raided. If White Women were being held and sold in bondage it wouldn't matter who shot them half the story would be how could this slavery have occurred in a public business on a main thoroughfare in America. The Sick thing is everyone seems to know exactly what these places were and how they are staffed but are only concerned about whether the guy who killed the women being held as sex slaves was racially motivated. Have the owners of these "Spas" been arrested yet ? Seems like if the damn Police had been doing their jobs these women wouldn't have even been there to be shot, if they had done their duty the Spas wouldn't have even existed they'd have been closed down long ago.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.4.1  CB  replied to  zuksam @7.4    3 years ago
Seems like if the damn Police had been doing their jobs these women wouldn't have even been there to be shot, if they had done their duty the Spas wouldn't have even existed they'd have been closed down long ago.

The operative word for the above is, "Scope." The scope of this discussion is Man enter and kills in Spa.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
8  Dismayed Patriot    3 years ago
" Joe Biden had this to say: "Whatever the motivation, we know this: Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake." " So, progressives openly lie about this being an Anti-Asian hate crime. The question is why?"

What part of Joe's statement was a lie?

"Hate Crimes Targeting Asian Americans Spiked by 150% in Major US Cities"

" Hate-fueled attacks on Asian Americans spiked across major U.S. cities last year — in some cases by triple-digit percentages — even as overall hate crimes declined, newly analyzed police department statistics show."

It's no wonder that many wondered if an attack against primarily Asian Americans might have been motivated by this new phenomenon that was directly related to how many bigoted piece of shit Trump supporters reacted to Asian Americans around them especially after the divisive rhetoric being spouted by their bigoted Dear Leader.

" I believe there are two reasons. One is obviously to blame Donald Trump for using the term "China virus." Clearly there is nothing wrong with that."

Trump used multiple different wrong terms for the Corona virus which either directly or indirectly tied the virus to the Chinese and Asian communities. His supporters, many of which are poorly educated as he pointed out himself, "We won with the poorly educated! I love the poorly educated!", likely aren't smart enough to discern a difference between Asian Americans who had nothing to do with the virus and the Communist government where the virus originated. So clearly there is a lot wrong with using such bigoted language to describe the virus as he wasn't calling it the "Communist virus", he was labeling it with clearly Asian names such as the "China Virus" and the 'Kung Flu" which spoke directly to his bigoted base who often hate anyone who's not a white evangelical Christian that looks and thinks like them.

"The virus originated in China"

True.

"and beyond that the CCP blatantly allowed it to spread to the world."

Proof? Of course not, just pure bigoted conjecture.

The second reason is to find a way to confirm the progressive view of America as being evil and "racist." 

More bullshit. America isn't evil or racist, just certain segments of it that have been that way for centuries and have been passing on their bigotry to their descendants. These folk are the "My country right or wrong" white Christian evangelicals who refuse to admit America has ever done anything wrong and often praise the confederacy and racist confederates by erecting monuments and memorials to them or who protect and defend the monuments and memorials today. That part of America exists and in fact we've seen a surge in their visibility as Trump gave those bigots cover with his divisive rhetoric which has ridiculed and insulted anyone who wasn't a white conservative Christian or anyone who dared to tell the truth about American history.

Only progressives don't seem to understand that when you have to create a racist act, like Jussie Smollett and others have done, it only goes to prove that the opposite must be true

Jussie Smolletts actions do not prove racism doesn't exist, it just proves there are dumb shits on both sides of the political aisle. Nothing he did proves any of the other acts of racially motivated violence aren't what we know them to be.

Where do progressives get their evidence of all this anti-Asian activity?

From statistics that prove there has been a dramatic increase in attacks directly targeting Asian Americans regardless of what any whiny bigoted Trump supporters think.

Ironically, they no longer believe in free speech, equality or even freedom of thought.

How does condemning attacks on Asian Americans somehow prove progressives no longer believe in free speech (the government or 'establishment' is not silencing anyone, private companies with every right to do so are asking their users to abide by their rules of conduct), equality or "freedom of thought"? You can believe whatever you want about Asian [ Americans,deleted, ] that's your right, but when you start to act on those beliefs by attacking other Americans based on the color of their skin or their ethnicity then you've crossed the line and it's no longer "thought" but action which rightly is regulated.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8    3 years ago
What part of Joe's statement was a lie?

All of it as pertains to Robert Aaron Long. Long didn't kill anyone for being Asian and that speech was connected to those killings, remember?



 newly analyzed police department statistics show."

Analyzed by whom?


bigoted piece of shit Trump supporters reacted to Asian Americans 

Bull Shit!  The only haters I know are progressives.


Proof?

Here:

"China may have allowed the new coronavirus to spread across the world by allowing international flights to and from Hubei province, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, while taking stronger measures to ensure the virus didn’t spread within China, according to the latest criticism of the country’s handling of the outbreak.

The ruling Communist party in China has previously been accused of underreporting cases and not communicating swiftly enough with the global community vital information about the virus, which first emerged in Wuhan in December 2019, including what the party knew about human-to-human transmission and just how fast it spread.

Now, critics have also suggested that China is partly to blame for the virus spreading globally because it continued to allow flights to Hubei for its own interests – while taking greater action to stop the spread within China.

Addressing China’s President Xi Jinping directly, historian Niall Ferguson wrote in an op-ed: “... after it became clear that there was a full-blown epidemic spreading from Wuhan to the rest of Hubei province, why did you cut off travel from Hubei to the rest of China – on January 23 – but not from Hubei to the rest of the world?”

Ferguson’s accusations refer to China continuing to allow international travel long past January 23, the date when it imposed serious restrictions on travel within China in an attempt to quarantine Wuhan from the rest of the country."



It was in all ways: THE CHINA VIRUS!

 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
8.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    3 years ago
All of it as pertains to Robert Aaron Long. Long didn't kill anyone for being Asian and that speech was connected to those killings, remember?

"Whatever the motivation, we know this: Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake." 

Is it a problem with reading comprehension that makes you believe Biden was somehow claiming this was motivated by anti-Asian sentiment? Because he doesn't say that there, he makes a truthful statement, "too many Asian Americans have been" "feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake". That's a fact as many of them have openly stated. The attacks on Asian Americans did increase by 150% since Trump took to calling it the "China virus" or 'Kung flu" so, as Biden sdtated, whatever this most recent attackers motivations were, too many Asian Americans are fearing for their safety.

Analyzed by whom?

Oh, right, I forgot you only believe shit that has been fed to you through right wing media sources and if they're not telling you there has been an increase in violence against Asian Americans then I guess it's not happening. /s

"The only haters I know are progressives."

So I guess you've been plugging your ears and closing your eyes whenever they show footage of Trump rally's, the Nazi march in Charlottesville or the attack on the capital.

"China may have allowed" "critics have also suggested"

So no proof then, just a bunch of conjecture and supposition but nothing that actually proves the "CCP blatantly allowed it to spread to the world" as you falsely claimed. None of the rest of that opinion piece about flights from Hubei province prove anything about the CCP "blatantly allowing" the virus to spread.

I'm not defending the CCP for any of their mishandling which it appears was clear to many, they no doubt made many mistakes. But before you go claiming it was some intentional attack on the rest of the world by the CCP you ought to have at least a shred of evidence and by looking at your link you obviously don't.

It was in all ways: THE CHINA VIRUS!

You go ahead an tell yourself whatever you want to believe. Whether that is true or not makes ZERO difference when it comes to the dangerous rhetoric used which did increase violence and anti-Asian sentiment against Asian Americans that had ZERO to do with the virus. Screaming "Fire!" in a theatre that is not on fire is dangerous, and using the excuse that some other theatre across the sea may have been on fire is a poor excuse for such dangerous conduct. I can only think of one reason why someone might be desperate to link a pandemic to an ethnicity/people and that is to support and normalize their own preconceived prejudices against that ethnicity/people.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.1    3 years ago

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.2    3 years ago

The MAGA roam.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    3 years ago
Bull ⋅!  The only haters I know are progressives.

same here!

It was in all ways: THE CHINA VIRUS!

true! 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10  Buzz of the Orient    3 years ago

I've been wondering how long it will be, or even IF anyone was going to post an article about TODAY'S mass shooting, or is it just such a "ho hum what else is new" situation in America that it isn't even newsworthy.  Click the link to the Boulder, Colorado supermarket shooting story below:

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Ender
Professor Principal
10.1  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10    3 years ago
Well , another day, another dollar
After I've sang and hollered
Oh, it's my way of living, and I can't change a thing
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @10.1    3 years ago
"Oh, it's my way of living, and I can't change a thing"

Maybe the present government will pass some more restrictive gun laws - that would be a start.  I hope nobody is naive enough to post a reply that "Guns don't kill people, People kill people" because it's the people with guns who kill a lot of people, because killing with a gun is easy.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.1.2  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.1    3 years ago

The Democrats passed a universal background check bill and the republicans threw a fit.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
10.3  bbl-1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10    3 years ago

Another day.  At least this appears to be Islamic 21 year old and now the MAGA bots have something to run and froth over.

Do not know if 'religion' has anything to do with anything with this shooting.  Hell, the shooter might have been an atheist.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
10.3.1  bugsy  replied to  bbl-1 @10.3    3 years ago
At least this appears to be Islamic 21 year old and now the MAGA bots have something to run and froth over.

No different that the liberal loons that frothed at the mouth over the Atlanta shooting when it was learned the guy was white. They ran with the loon liberal narrative that he did what he did because of racccciiisssssmmmm.

The loon left was wrong yet again.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @10.3.1    3 years ago

Dog whistle

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
10.3.3  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @10.3.2    3 years ago

Woof woof...tweet tweet....

You are wrong...yet again...

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
10.3.4  bbl-1  replied to  bugsy @10.3.1    3 years ago

What are you talking about?  Sheesh, white people shoot people everyday.  And................or would a simple 'duh' quantify it easier?

 
 

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