The Age of Uncertainty

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  6 days ago  •  142 comments

The Age of Uncertainty
On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," branding guru Donny Deutsch fretted that pocketbook issues would win out with voters this year and in 2024 as more important to them than America's democracy being "in peril." "I'm concerned and everything in my gut tells me… unfortunately, the gas prices and bread is going to be more compelling," he said Thursday.

The above title was used by Harvard economist John Kenneth Galbraith. It was both the title of a book and a TV series promoted by the BBC in the late 70's. The subject was economics or Galbraith's version of economics. I'm using the title in a different way. My purpose is using it in a truer sense to explain the current political stage the US is enduring. I wanted to get that out of the way before some zealot complained that I stole the title, without acknowledging that it had been used before.

The United States is the world's oldest democracy. Our Constitution which was written, edited and ratified on September 17th, 1787, has served this nation well for over 235 years. Within the past decade, we have entered into a new age. We are no longer a society that is ruled by law. The US has entered into a period not unlike that of 1920's Russia, where the law is whatever the power that exists says it is. The examples are everywhere. Extremist groups on the right are infiltrated by the FBI and are quickly prosecuted by the federal government for law breaking. Leftist groups like antifa, BLM or "Ruth Sent Us" are not. ( Ruth Sent Us recently threatened riots if the Court makes a decision they don't like.)  If one is a Trump supporter they get shackled & tossed in jail for refusing to testify before congress. Eric Holder was found in contempt of Congress and nothing happened. Carter Page has his Civil Rights violated and Andrew McCabe commits perjury and walks despite a criminal referral. For John Brennan and James Clapper there are no consequences. In 2020 we had riots in blue cities and a dozen people died. Democrat mayors had the police stand down. Few people were ever prosecuted for those crimes. In many blue cities we have progressive DA's who ignore the laws they are supposed to enforce and instead allow for crime based on "social justice."

Thus, American law has become reconstructed on the premise that the "noble ends" justify the means. Crime is raging in many American cities and the economy is in dire straits. The US border is wide open and it's obvious that it was all part of the plan to change not only the voters in the US, but also the nation's demographics as well. On every issue the current radical regime simply gaslights the people. The media is a partner in this evil cabal. Knowing that the party in power is in for a terrible beating in November, the leftist media is out telling people to discard the suffering and vote on the character of Donald Trump:

"After downplaying concerns about the economy in the last year, some media outlets are now panicking that high gas prices and inflation will tank Democrats in the midterm elections , with some pundits even scolding voters for making it a priority.

Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell told readers that it was a "wild fantasy" to believe the GOP could lower gas prices, as she warned voters to "think carefully about what they’ll get if they cast their ballot based on gas prices," in a Sunday opinion piece.

"The president does not have some super-secret special dial on his desk that can adjust gas prices, but many voters believe otherwise," she wrote. 

"They’re counting on voters to project their hopes and dreams — including their wildest fantasies about cheaper gas — onto Republican challengers," her analysis continued.

But Rampell claimed that neither party had "serious" solutions to dealing with gas prices or inflation and there were "relatively few tools" that  President Biden  or Congress could use to "help boost oil production or moderate inflation." So, she advised voters to ignore the gas price problem at the voting booth.

Quoting colleague E.J. Dionne, she cautioned that if Republicans win in November that could lead to "far more radical and sinister forces" trying to "undermine democracy."

On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," branding guru Donny Deutsch fretted that pocketbook issues would win out with voters this year and in 2024 as more important to them than America's democracy being "in peril."

"I'm concerned and everything in my gut tells me… unfortunately, the gas prices and bread is going to be more compelling," he said Thursday.

Polling bears that out, with surveys consistently showing inflation is the most significant issue to Americans right now. A  recent Fox News poll  found 41 percent of voters say inflation will be an important factor in their midterm decisions, well above issues like guns (12 percent) and abortion (10 percent). Another poll from ABC News earlier this month found 71% of Americans disapprove of Biden on inflation."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-wapo-abc-figures-warn-voters-against-gas-prices-influencing-vote-november


They fooled the people once, can they do it again? Or was Lincoln right?





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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

We can only hope that there won't be any more violence before the midterms. 

It has been a long wait for many.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 days ago
Another poll from ABC News earlier this month found 71% of Americans disapprove of Biden on inflation."

Well, it would appear that there are 71% of people who do not understand the relationship between the Presidency and prices controlled by the "free market. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Thomas @1.1    6 days ago

Since Biden and his motley crew of incompetents are doing nothing to improve the situation, they will get the blame come November.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Thomas @1.1    6 days ago

Well, it would appear that 100% of Democrats and leftists are upset their tone deaf attitudes and do nothing approaches to gas prices and inflation isn't resonating with voters.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @1.1    6 days ago

And you are going to explain it to them?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.4  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    6 days ago
Well, it would appear that there are 71% of people who do not understand the relationship between the Presidency and prices controlled by the "free market. 

It's Hilarious to watch how the "Theology of Liberalism" Won't make a Democrat President accountable for any wrongs going on in this country, and twist them into "Doing his best and not his Fault", but they sure will ignore anything that actually went right for this country during a Republican Presidency and even find faults in the "Right things" that a Republican President actually did, and still Blame them for anything that went wrong.

But Brandon ?

He's Old......so NOT HIS FAULT !

Andrew yang had it right (Even though the boo's) when he called out Brandon's Age during the Democrat Debates.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.4    6 days ago

Who is Brandon?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.6  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    6 days ago
Who is Brandon?

Who is Tessylo ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.4    6 days ago

We can hear the partisan excuse making all over this site.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.8  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    6 days ago
We can hear the partisan excuse making all over this site.

More like the "Hypocritical excuse", For Sure !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.8    6 days ago

First it was the pandemic, then Putin and now it's the greedy businessmen that Biden tried to put out of business.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    6 days ago

Yes we can.  Especially on your 'articles'.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.6    6 days ago

I note you're one of the only folks referring to someone as Brandon.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    6 days ago

You bet!

You sure told me a thing or two!

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.13  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.11    6 days ago
I note you're one of the only folks referring to someone as Brandon.  

Apparently.....you really "Don't know", but are going to post some response anyway.

Have a wonderful day !

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.13    6 days ago

Apparently you really don't know.

But are going to post some response anyway.  

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.15  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.9    6 days ago
First it was the pandemic, then Putin and now it's the greedy businessmen that Biden tried to put out of business.

It's like Brandon is "TRYING" to be "the best of the worst" .....on purpose ! 

I guess "bad recognition" is better than no recognition ?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.16  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.14    6 days ago
Apparently you really don't know.

Don't know what ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.16    6 days ago

EXACTLY !

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.15    6 days ago

Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon.  

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.19  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.17    6 days ago
EXACTLY !

That was a "Question" !

ques·tion
[ˈkwesCH(ə)n]
NOUN
  1. a sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information:
    Apparently....you had NO INFORMATION to give!
 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.20  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    6 days ago
Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon.  

It's like your a scholar in ..... "Immature". 

From which College degree ?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.21  JBB  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.20    6 days ago

And, you're a scholar of what? Not grammar...

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.22  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  JBB @1.1.21    6 days ago
And, you're a scholar of what? Not grammar...

Coming from the poster child of memes ?

LOL !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.1.21    6 days ago

Careful, spelling corrections were recently ruled a violation.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.24  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.23    6 days ago

I would be getting a lot of crap if people went after me. I tend to type a close letter that the spell check doesn't catch. Like I will type put instead of out...

I am thinking I am also dyslexic. I type tehm instead of them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @1.1.24    6 days ago

That was one of the reasons given.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.26  afrayedknot  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    6 days ago

“Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon.”

So tired, so stale.

Only surpassed by quoting a dictionary reference when parsing words in lieu of engaging in an honest conversation. When that is the fall back position, there was no position to begin with. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.26    6 days ago
“Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon.”

Wasn't it an NBC reporter who did it first?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.26    6 days ago

Kinda like referring to folks here as morons,

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    6 days ago
Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon. 

And you are the epitome of maturity the way you refer to the previous POTUS.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.27    6 days ago

No, it wasn't.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.29    6 days ago

Whatshisname earned those names such as steaming pile of shit.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.32  dennis smith  replied to  Thomas @1.1    6 days ago

71% do understand the relationship between the presidency and prices controlled by the "free market" 

29% do not

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.33  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    6 days ago

Your comment is 100% wrong as usual

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.32    6 days ago
71% do understand the relationship between the presidency and prices controlled by the "free market"  29% do not

Now that Democrats are in control of a faltering economy, it must be time to try and change how America has traditionally voted--their wallets.

Blaming voters for not understanding could be another 'deplorable' moment.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.35  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.23    6 days ago

If you are going to insult someone's education then it is best not be illiterate while doing so.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.36  Thomas  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.32    6 days ago

You must be one of the 71% who do not understand that there is no direct connection or relation between the two. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.37  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    6 days ago

They don't listen. I have. Others on this forum have. 

Unfortunately, it is a lot like using the directions on a shampoo bottle: Lather. Rinse. Repeat. If one follows those directions, one finds oneself in a never ending cycle.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.38  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.34    6 days ago

We are in a global economy and the whole world is in the same mess as we are in. Is the President supposed to cure the world's problems?

All we can do is mitigate some of ours, and even that is hard to do since the economy can be quite contrarian. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.39  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.38    6 days ago
Is the President supposed to cure the world's problems?

WE possibly could if we are successful and the rest of the world takes notice on how it was done. The old "lead by example" thing.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.40  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.39    6 days ago

Don't tell me, drill baby drill and lower taxes....

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.41  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @1.1.40    6 days ago
Don't tell me, drill baby drill and lower taxes

I won't cuz that is more likely than not, not the answer.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.42  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.38    6 days ago
We are in a global economy and the whole world is in the same mess as we are in. Is the President supposed to cure the world's problems?

Indeed we are and were in the 90's as well.  Frequently, we read here how successful Bill Clinton was at delivering an economy that worked well for us.  Folks here were expecting Biden to do the same.  Maybe if he had a VP like Al Gore instead of Kamala Harris.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.43  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.41    6 days ago

For some reason, I bet that will be their plan though.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.44  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.38    5 days ago

what i am sure of is that the sitting president gets credit or blame for the economy.

I am not saying it's fair, but that it is reality

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.45  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.39    5 days ago
WE possibly could if we are successful and the rest of the world takes notice on how it was done. The old "lead by example" thing.

This is not a case of leading by example. We are intertwined with the world economy. I can't think of one thing we could do, that would cause a significant change to our or the world economy. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.46  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.42    5 days ago

Ah, sarcasm.... about nothing we are talking about. But I am amused. 

Maybe if he had a VP like Al Gore instead ofKamala Harris.

And since I am easily amused, I find it amusing how people find less than VP's  of one party while forgetting that of another....

But then some do like eating potatos.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.47  dennis smith  replied to  Thomas @1.1.36    5 days ago

Blaming 71% shows you do not live in reality. Sounds like Biden = blame everyone else

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.48  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.45    5 days ago

We have been entwined with the world economy for decades and have been successful by leading. 

The difference now is we have an incompetent administration who takes no blame for anything and is unable to lead

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
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1.1.49  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.38    5 days ago

How about not making matters worse to start.   This doofus isn't going to cure anything so the answer to your question is a flat NO!

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.50  Thomas  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.47    5 days ago

I haven't blamed anyone. There are a whole host of factors that go into the price of gasoline that we pay at the pump, none of which are significantly under the control of the president or congress. You know, the free market and all. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.51  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.39    5 days ago

Gee, how did whatshisname lead by example?

Do tell. . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.52  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.48    5 days ago
"The difference now is we have an incompetent administration who takes no blame for anything and is unable to lead"

Sounds like #45, you know, whatshisname.  

Only his, whatshisname, #45's was more like a criminal enterprise of an 'administration'

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
1.1.53  dennis smith  replied to  Thomas @1.1.50    5 days ago

You blamed 71%. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
1.1.54  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.52    5 days ago

This is about Biden but your deflection is noted.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.55  MonsterMash  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.6    2 days ago
Who is Tessylo?
My cat's name is Tessylo but the only name she'll respond to is asshole
 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.56  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    2 days ago
Only immature morons refer to President Biden as Brandon. 

I thought you didn't know who Brandon was.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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1.1.57  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  MonsterMash @1.1.55    15 hours ago

LMAO !

 
 
 
MalamuteMan
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1.2  MalamuteMan  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 days ago

Hi Vic,

I left a comment in the "Hate is not welcome here" group... I hope you see it.

Cheers,
Mal

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MalamuteMan @1.2    2 days ago

Got it.

We need more like you.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    6 days ago

The voters are much more concerned with the ever rising cost of just about everything,  and the rampant crime rate.

January 6th and climate change are least of their worries

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @2    6 days ago
The voters are much more concerned with the ever rising cost of just about everything,  and the rampant crime rate.

Something the typical NT liberal can not comprehend.

Carville needs to remind them again.

Can they ever learn?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2    6 days ago

You mean they won't listen to the Washington Post? 

They aren't stupid enough to vote against Trump and against their families?

Five months will tell the story.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

It is the era of the ascendancy of the radical left. It has been nothing short of terrifying.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

American cities are awash in crime, but at least we have this:

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    6 days ago

Vic,

The crime epidemic is nation wide, and is a reaction to post pandemic lockdowns, as best as we know. Here is a map of the US and crime per capita:

512

This is a state issue and not one that is easy to stop.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1    6 days ago

A state issue?  Isn't the issue more local?  In 2019 the homicide rate per 100,000 was:

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1    5 days ago
and is a reaction to post pandemic lockdowns,

Could you prove that claim?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.1    5 days ago

We are not talking about 2019, are we?

The map speaks for itself.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    5 days ago

Domestic violence

Gun violence

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1    5 days ago

Like any big city.  

Why some refuse to acknowledge that, is mind boggling.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.3    5 days ago
We are not talking about 2019, are we?

We are talking about crime and statistics ,lag by several years.

The map speaks for itself.

Yes, it speaks to state averages.

When you dig a little deeper, you will find significant differences between rural, suburban and urban areas. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    5 days ago
Like any big city.   Why some refuse to acknowledge that, is mind boggling.  

Exactly, one just has to accept high homicide rates in urban areas.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

He was almost elected Governor of the great state of Florida:


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Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    6 days ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    6 days ago

You never got a participation trophy?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    6 days ago

Doesn't it just gall ya?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    6 days ago

I thought he was a republican and therefore a loser.  

They must have done some serious redistricting in that area.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    6 days ago
I thought he was a republican and therefore a loser.  

You don't remember that election?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    6 days ago

You got it half right, he is a loser.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    6 days ago
They must have done some serious redistricting in that area.  

Could you explain that please? Redistricting means jack shit in a governor race.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

"The Minnesota Supreme Court delivered a win Monday for a group of Minneapolis residents who have been suing over an influx of crime into their neighborhood following  the defund police movement , ruling the city is not hiring the approximately 731 police officers required under its charter. 

The nine-page order, issued Monday by Chief Justice Lorie S. Gildea, stems from a lawsuit brought by a  group of eight North Side residents  who sued Mayor Jacob Frey and the Minneapolis City Council for not fulfilling their obligation to fund and employ 0.0017 sworn police officers per Minneapolis resident. 

Based on the 2020 census, at least 731 officers should be on the force based on the city’s population. "


 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    6 days ago

Budget cuts are not defunding.

Minneapolis is known for their racism in their police department.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    6 days ago
Minneapolis is known for their racism in their police department.  

Minorities in Minneapolis tend to disagree. They want their police back.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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6.1.2  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    6 days ago
Budget cuts are not defunding.

However many times it takes to get yourself to "Believe your own lie", have at it.

Good Luck to you.

 
 
 
evilgenius
PhD Guide
6.2  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    6 days ago

No "defunding of police" has happened in Minneapolis. The police force has been understaffed for at least a decade, because there are not enough QUALIFIED applicants. So, even with this bullshit court case the MPD will not be mass hiring anyone soon. 

Also today - 

The city of Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, has agreed to pay $3.25 million to the family of  Daunte Wright,  a Black man who was killed by police during a traffic stop last year, attorneys for his family said.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    6 days ago

But there is no problem with racism anywhere in Minnesota.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    6 days ago
No "defunding of police" has happened in Minneapolis.

Lol.  The left tried and failed.  

As AOC said when objecting to a proposed billion dollar but from the police budget as insufficient ,  "Defunding police means defunding police"

Now they all want to pretend it never happened. 

Par for the course. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    6 days ago
No "defunding of police" has happened in Minneapolis.

Other cities scaled back planned cuts. While New York City officials said they agreed to cut $1 billion in police spending, Mayor de Blasio’s budget slashed less than half that. The Minneapolis City Council cut $7.8 million from the police department last year but later injected $6.4 million back into their budget to hire new officers. 

Now, I am not current with the new math trends, but it appears that some $7.8 million WAS slashed, and then some $6.4 million was later restored. That looks like a net slash of $1.4 million, but hey, my math could be off. I trust you to correct me if I am wrong on the figures.

 

 
 
 
evilgenius
PhD Guide
6.2.4  evilgenius  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.2    6 days ago
The left tried and failed.  

Thanks for the agreement, perhaps Vic can amend his statement. 

You would, of course, be more truthful to say the far left Progressives tried and were blocked by other Dems on the City Council and the Democratic Mayor. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
PhD Guide
6.2.5  evilgenius  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.3    6 days ago
...it appears that some $7.8 million WAS slashed...

What's the context of that funding change? 

How a Pledge to Dismantle the Minneapolis Police Collapsed

The pledge is now no closer to becoming policy, with fewer vocal champions than ever. It has been rejected by the city’s mayor, a plurality of residents in recent public opinion polls, and an increasing number of community groups. Taking its place have been the types of incremental reforms that the city’s progressive politicians had denounced.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.4    6 days ago
"You would, of course, be more truthful to say the far left Progressives tried and were blocked by other Dems on the City Council and the Democratic Mayor."
AND that's the truth.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.5    6 days ago

Are you trying to claim that Minneapolis did not cut the police budget?????

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.1    6 days ago
But there is no problem with racism anywhere in Minnesota.

I wouldn't think so in the historically progressive state.  Their linage includes the progressive Minnesota Farmer–Labor Party, which merged with the Dems in 1944.

They also had the moderate Reform Party until 2014.

The state's Green Party is stronger than in most states. 

The state always has high voter turnout and has voted for a Dem for president every time since the 70's.

 

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
6.2.9  dennis smith  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    6 days ago

Minnesota has had a Dem governor for the last decade which tells the story. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
6.2.10  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.6    6 days ago

Spin away but the fact remains that the Dems have defunded the police.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
6.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    6 days ago
No "defunding of police" has happened in Minneapolis.

You might want to come up with another line of BULLSHIT.

The Minneapolis City Council approved a 2021 budget plan Thursday morning agreeing to make cuts to the police department's budget. At the same time, it said it will not be reducing the number of officers in the police force, and instead, it will continue to give the city flexibility to adjust staffing capacity in the future.

The move comes seven months after George Floyd, a Black man , was killed by police in Minneapolis. Following his death, protests calling for state governments to "defund the police" erupted across the U.S.

The new council-approved $1.5 billion budget will dedicate at least $400,000 to the Minneapolis Forward Community Now Coalition and $1.1 million in ongoing funding to the Minneapolis Forward Rebuild Resilient initiative to support economic recovery..

The Minneapolis Forward Community Now Coalition isn't part of the police force.

Minneapolis Forward Rebuild Resilient isn't part of the police force.  

The Minneapolis City Council has voted to shift almost $8 million in police funding to expand other services, including violence prevention and mental health crisis response teams. But, in the face of a veto threat from the mayor, the council also voted to keep its police staffed at current levels, reversing earlier plans to cut officers from the force. The vote on Thursday emerged from the national debate over police funding that was sparked in May by the death of George Floyd , a Black man, at the hands of Minneapolis officers as well as numerous similar incidents around the country. The incidents were followed by massive protests about racial injustice.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.2.12  Kavika   replied to  Tessylo @6.2.1    5 days ago
But there is no problem with racism anywhere in Minnesota.

That is incorrect, there has been and still is racism in MN. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.2.13  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.8    5 days ago
I wouldn't think so in the historically progressive state.  Their linage includes the progressive Minnesota Farmer–Labor Party, which merged with the Dems in 1944.

Then you have no idea about MN. There is racism in Minnesota and has been for generations under both parties. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.10    5 days ago

"Spin away but the fact remains that the Dems have defunded the police."

Not true.

No spin.

No proof whatsoever has been provided by the author of this 'article' that any police have been defunded anywhere.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @6.2.12    5 days ago
"But there is no problem with racism anywhere in Minnesota."
"That is incorrect, there has been and still is racism in MN."

I forgot the sarcasm tag.  I was being facetious.  According to certain posters and the poster of this 'article' that racism does not exist anywhere including Minnesota.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
6.2.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.14    5 days ago
No proof whatsoever has been provided by the author of this 'article' that any police have been defunded anywhere.

Helps if you actually read the responses to your comment.

See 6.2.11

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.2.17  Kavika   replied to  Tessylo @6.2.15    5 days ago

OK, thanks.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.16    5 days ago

No.

See 6.2.5

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

Imagine if he won that one?

It was close....but it won't be anymore.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    6 days ago

Because of serious redistricting?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    6 days ago

Because the policies enacted by Gov DeSantis have made him immensely popular nation wide.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    6 days ago

Because of serious redistricting.

Got it!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    6 days ago

I wanted to walk the high road with you.

Oh well!

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Freshman Expert
7.1.4  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    6 days ago
I wanted to walk the high road with you.

It's more like trying to maneuver a mountain bike trail with many cliffs.

Desantis has been doing fine. Many want him to stay as Florida Governor, and not run for President !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.1.4    6 days ago
Many want him to stay as Florida Governor, and not run for President !

Obviously, the Presidency is his ultimate goal.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
7.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    6 days ago

Redistricting affects his national polling, how?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Freshman Expert
7.1.7  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.5    6 days ago
the Presidency is his ultimate goal.

Yep !

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    6 days ago

You have no clue where that is.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
PhD Silent
7.1.9  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    6 days ago

That is a well traveled road but some never take it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.9    5 days ago

We can all see that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.9    5 days ago

So true

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

"The Chicago Police Department has unveiled a new policy prohibiting its officers from chasing people on foot simply because they run away, or because they have committed minor offenses.

The policy, which was introduced Tuesday, also encourages cops to “consider alternatives” to pursuing someone who “is visibly armed with a firearm.”




But you, the law-abiding citizen, are on your own, unarmed and defenseless. It's called social justice

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

This Just In:

Senator Tom Cotton and Rep Jim Banks
are introducing legislation today that would allow adults to sue doctors who perform gender transition procedures on them up to 30 years after they turn 18.


 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    6 days ago

How ignorant and moronic of Cotton and Jordan.  So no surprise.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    6 days ago

I know it. We should let those who made a terrible mistake suffer for the rest of their lives./S

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    6 days ago

So you know they're ignorant morons?

PROGRESS!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.2    6 days ago

There is nothing more moronic or evil than let some impressionable young adolescent have a sex change operation.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.3    6 days ago

So these ignorant morons have nothing better to do than introduce such legislation.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    6 days ago

Extensive mental counseling is done before the surgery is performed. But I don't expect Cottonmouth Tom to know that.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.2.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.2    6 days ago

I swear, they are determined to destroy the medical profession as well. Now they are setting in place that doctors can refuse medical care if it is not in their religious beliefs...Add suing doctors for certain procedures.

The republican mantra is to dismantle and destroy every thing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.2    5 days ago

Which counseling would that be?  It wouldn't be the slime-ball that puts such thoughts in the minds of minors?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @9.2.1    5 days ago
The republican mantra is to dismantle and destroy every thing.

There is one thing that needs to be dismantled. It's the ideology that your moronic tool president has rammed down the nation's throat.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.2.4  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.3    5 days ago

As the right use to say about trump, he is your president too.

What ideology specifically?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

BREAKING:

"The Center for Legal Equality—our newly-launched division of America First Legal—has filed a federal civil rights complaint against Morgan Stanley, Princeton, Harvard and University of Michigan for discriminating on the basis of race and gender:"




From the ACLU they have learned how to play!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
10.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    6 days ago
he Center for Legal Equality—our newly-launched division of America First Legal—has filed a federal civil rights complaint against Morgan Stanley, Princeton, Harvard and University of Michigan for discriminating on the basis of race and gender:"

It's sad that's necessary, but it is. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
11  Dismayed Patriot    6 days ago
Extremist groups on the right are infiltrated by the FBI and are quickly prosecuted by the federal government for law breaking.

True.

Leftist groups like antifa, BLM or "Ruth Sent Us" are not.

False.

" The F.B.I. set up extensive surveillance operations inside Portland’s protest movement, according to documents obtained by The New York Times and current and former federal officials, with agents standing shoulder to shoulder with activists, tailing vandalism suspects to guide the local police toward arrests and furtively videotaping inside one of the country’s most active domestic protest movements."

The F.B.I. Deployed Surveillance Teams Inside Portland Protests - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

The US has entered into a period not unlike that of 1920's Russia

Complete horse shit.

You go on this rant claiming that the 'left' isn't being held accountable and so some "leftist' must be manipulating things in the shadows to prevent prosecutions. You claim Brennan and Clapper should have somehow should have faced "consequences" for an investigation when the fact is their actions were proven justified regardless of how many whiny dip shit Trump supporters call the Russian investigation a "hoax". Bitter right wing half wits constantly fantasize about some fictional 'deep state' they can neither prove or even name any members but is supposedly controlling the establishment.

The fact is right wing Republicans ARE a major part of "the establishment'. They're the ones stacking the SCOTUS with conservative justices in contradiction to their stated position of letting the American people decide during an election year. Their political tricks caused a two justice flip with the denial of Garland and the last minute force through of Barret. Trying to claim the 'right' are powerless and are the ones being unfairly targeted is just more unadulterated horse shit. The reality is that apparently many conservatives, Republicans, Trump campaign staff and right wing bigots have no problem committing crimes, lying to investigators, knowingly fabricating lies about fictitious voter fraud, getting caught by the courts writing election laws that specifically target minorities with "surgical precision".

The current State of America isn't because of "the left" so much as it's an amalgamation of 2 years of Covid, backed up distribution chains, constant mass shootings made more possible by lax gun laws, constant climate disasters from devastating flooding to massive wildfires, inflation, the Russian attack on one of our European allies, a massive political divide and how the right is reacting to what they call "wokism" which is simply rational persons recognizing injustice and finally choosing to do something about it. Trying to pin all the problems we face on "the left" is beyond ignorant, it's just plain bigoted horse shit.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    6 days ago
False.

Lol..  Here's Biden's DOJ intervening to reduce the charges against left wing terrorists who bombed a cop car during the left's riot filled 2020.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1    6 days ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1    6 days ago

They will pretend this didn't actually happen despite the evidence.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    5 days ago
You claim Brennan and Clapper should have somehow should have faced "consequences" for an investigation

They lied to congress!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12  Tessylo    6 days ago

"The current State of America isn't because of "the left" so much as it's an amalgamation of 2 years of Covid, backed up distribution chains, constant mass shootings made more possible by lax gun laws, constant climate disasters from devastating flooding to massive wildfires, inflation, the Russian attack on one of our European allies, a massive political divide and how the right is reacting to what they call "wokism" which is simply rational persons recognizing injustice and finally choosing to do something about it. Trying to pin all the problems we face on "the left" is beyond ignorant, it's just plain bigoted horse shit."

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Thank you for always providing the truth and facts of the matter - in a nutshell.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
13  Sean Treacy    6 days ago

All one needs to do is compare the hysterical war on parents, replete with lying, waged by Biden and the DOJ who had the gall to be angry over the rape of a student by a cross dressing male in a girls bathroom, with their silence when an actual terrorist groups commits dozens of crimes and publicly threatens to escalate the violence.  

Has Biden condemned the assassination attempt against Kavanaugh yet?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
13.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    6 days ago

So you just made up all that nonsense.  

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Freshman Expert
13.2  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    6 days ago
Has Biden condemned the assassination attempt against Kavanaugh yet?

No !

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
14  Nerm_L    5 days ago

There seems little uncertainty about the winter of our discontent.  He who would be king has resorted to pleading for a horse.  But the only regal steed available appears to be quite dead.  Beating harder doesn't seem to be getting anywhere.  The final act draws near a close.

The weird thing about Putin's price hike is that Europe still buys Russian oil.  The EU is only planning to ban Russian oil and gas -- next year.  Maybe the Europeans hope the war will be over by then.  The war has been going on for only 120 days; there's still plenty of time to back peddle.  Just mind the toe cages.  Putin must be on the run by now, anyhow.  Funny how he who would be king doesn't gloat over Putin's defeat.  Wasn't that the plan?

So, yes, inflation is on everyone's mind.  Even the mindless press is worried.  The war ain't going as planned, protests look too much like an insurrection, and the damned Republicans have compromised on gun control.  The dead horse they've been riding doesn't have any legs.  Certainly looks like he who would be king is going to get Henry'ed.  Or is that Tudor'ed?

 
 

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