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US Capitol: Pro-Trump protesters storm the building as lawmakers gather to count electoral votes - CNNPolitics

  
Via:  Trout Giggles  •  3 years ago  •  401 comments

By:   Ted Barrett, Manu Raju and Peter Nickeas (CNN)

US Capitol: Pro-Trump protesters storm the building as lawmakers gather to count electoral votes - CNNPolitics
Supporters of President Donald Trump have breached the US Capitol, according to Capitol police officers, as lawmakers count the Electoral College votes certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win.

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(CNN)Supporters of President Donald Trump have breached the US Capitol, according to Capitol police officers, as lawmakers count the Electoral College votes certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Shortly after 1 p.m. hundreds of pro-Trump protesters pushed through barriers set up along the perimeter of the Capitol, where they tussled with officers in full riot gear, some calling the officers "traitors" for doing their jobs. About 90 minutes later, police said demonstrators got into the building and the doors to the House and Senate were being locked. Video from inside the Capitol showed Trump supporters marching through Statuary Hall. The US Capitol Police is asking for additional law enforcement for assistance, including federal authorities, per a source familiar. The source says there are several suspicious devices outside the Capitol building. The protesters have breached exterior security barriers, and video footage shows protesters gathering and some clashing with police near the Capitol building. CNN's team on the ground saw a number of protestors trying to go up the side of the Capitol building. Several loud flash bangs have been heard. Read More Protesters could be seen pushing against metal fences and police using the fences to push protesters back, while other officers reached over the top to club people trying to cross their lines. Flash bangs could be heard near the steps of the Capitol as smoke filled the air. In some instances officers could be seen deploying pepper spray. Tear gas has been deployed, but it's not clear whether by protesters or police, and people wiped tears from their eyes while coughing. Trump supporters chanted "USA" and waved American and "Don't Tread on Me" flags toward the front of the crowd after things had calmed some. This is a breaking story and will be updated.

CNN's Pamela Brown contributed to this report.

UPDATE:

Video from inside the Capitol showed Trump supporters marching through Statuary Hall. The US Capitol Police is asking for additional law enforcement for assistance, including federal authorities, per a source familiar.





The source says there are several suspicious devices outside the Capitol building.



The Capitol police officer in the House chamber told lawmakers that they may need to duck under their chairs and informed lawmakers that protesters were in the building's Rotunda.

While the White House refused to comment on the protests, Trump said on Twitter, "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"




The protesters have breached exterior security barriers, and video footage shows protesters gathering and some clashing with police near the Capitol building. CNN's team on the ground saw a number of protestors trying to go up the side of the Capitol building. Several loud flash bangs have been heard.

Protesters could be seen pushing against metal fences and police using the fences to push protesters back, while other officers reached over the top to club people trying to cross their lines.

Flash bangs could be heard near the steps of the Capitol as smoke filled the air. In some instances officers could be seen deploying pepper spray. Tear gas has been deployed, but it's not clear whether by protesters or police, and people wiped tears from their eyes while coughing.

Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser just announced a citywide curfew from 6 p.m. ET on Wednesday until 6 a.m. ET Thursday.

This is a breaking story and will be updated.


CNN's Pamela Brown, Phil Mattingly, andDaniela Diaz contributed to this report. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html




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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

Where are the National Guard that were supposed to be deployed to DC today?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

armed standoff at the door of the house right now.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.1  Dulay  replied to  devangelical @1.2    3 years ago

They should be shooting through the glass and let the bodies pile up...

I am more than done with this bullshit. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  devangelical @1.2    3 years ago

Gas every one of them followed up by flash bang grenades and watch the cockroaches and rats run.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.2.1    3 years ago

Like this?

800

800

And, supposedly, this is where the young, unarmed woman was killed - through the door - add to the body count.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.3    3 years ago

every domestic terrorist that breached capitol security should have been dropped.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.5  1stwarrior  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    3 years ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.5    3 years ago

Is that all you have?  Deflection?  Projection?  Denial?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
1.2.7  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.3    3 years ago

Yes. 

Every person that attacked the Capitol is a terrorist and those photos prove it. 

BTW, judging from the video, she was with a group storming a different set of doors.  

Oh and I don't give a shit whether she was 'unarmed' or not. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.8  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.5    3 years ago

Just stop, 1st.....The was/is an attempted coup against the seat of our government. 

Don't fucking try to deflect to anything else.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.9  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.5    3 years ago

I'm over the false equivalencies 1st.

STOP conflating yesterday's insurrection on the Capitol of the United States of America during a joint session of Congress with the events outside of a shut down Federal Courthouse in Portland. 

Just fucking STOP.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.10  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.2.7    3 years ago

Where's the story on that claim?

What's your definition of "attacked".

And why don't you "give a shit" about unarmed combatants?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.2.11  Bob Nelson  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.5    3 years ago

Whataboutism to delect from a historically unique occupation of our nation's capitol is obviously giving aide and confort to enemies of the republic.

Unless I'm mistaken... "giving aide and confort to enemies of the republic"... is a definition of treason.

Please, 1st... do not go there.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.12  1stwarrior  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.5    3 years ago

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1stwarrior
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1.2.13  1stwarrior  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.10    3 years ago

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1stwarrior
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1.2.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.2.9    3 years ago

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Dulay
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1.2.15  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.10    3 years ago
Where's the story on that claim?

The same place as the one that supports yours. 

What's your definition of "attacked".

The same as Webster's. 

And why don't you "give a shit" about unarmed combatants?

Why should I. There is unequivocal evidence that a plethora of unarmed Americans are gunned down by LEOs without due process. Why decry one that was actually committing federal crimes when it happened? 

She became the 'domestic enemy' that she took an oath to defend our country against. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.10    3 years ago
"And why don't you "give a shit" about unarmed combatants?"

She was a domestic terrorist who got exactly what she was asking for

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.2.17  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.16    3 years ago
She was a domestic terrorist who got exactly what she was asking for

Her blood is on Trumps hands.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.18  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.10    3 years ago
And why don't you "give a shit" about unarmed combatants?

Because no one knew she was unarmed, they were attacking the seat of our government which is why she was shot. It was said she was an Air Force veteran she took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America, Obviously, she had did not honor her oath.

If you can't understand that then there is nothing that can be done to help you grasp reality.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.19  1stwarrior  replied to  Kavika @1.2.18    3 years ago

no one knew she was unarmed - standard LE practice/rule - determine the threat before determining the reaction. 

3. Take action against the active shooter As a last resort, and only when your life is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or incapacitate the active shooter by: • Acting as aggressively as possible against him/her • Throwing items and improvising weapons • Yelling • Committing to your actions

Obviously not done.

You don't shoot people who don't believe as you do.  She was no longer in the military.  Not ALL military personnel will/do honor that oath when they are discharged.  She was "active" for 14 years - why just 14 - bad evals???  attitude???  was she a good soldier???  She was a conspiracy believer.  I wouldn't place much faith in her emotional stability, but did/does that make her a loose-cannon??

With your experiences, I'm quite sure you've seen/reacted to this type of person before.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.19    3 years ago
"no one knew she was unarmed - standard LE practice/rule - determine the threat before determining the reaction."

like all those unarmed black folks who were killed for doing nothing other than being black?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.2.21  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    3 years ago
Is that all you have?  Deflection?  Projection?  Denial?

I think by now most of us here on NT are quite familiar with his tactics. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.22  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.19    3 years ago
With your experiences, I'm quite sure you've seen/reacted to this type of person before.

She was part of a very large mob that was attacking the Capitol and completely outnumbered Capitol police trying to protect elected officials and themselves. Did you see the videos of these attacks?  Do you not think that they felt their lives and the lives of those they are sworn to defend were in danger.

And yes I've have both combat experience and also dealing with people that are not acting in a sane manner. I do not want to see anyone killed but on the other hand, she is responsible for her own death. She chose to follow a mad man that fomented treasonist actions against our country.

Stop defending her and trying to deflect from the real rats in our country. 

I'm done with this conversation.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.2.23  Bob Nelson  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.19    3 years ago

Stop, 1st.

Please.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.24  1stwarrior  replied to  Kavika @1.2.22    3 years ago

And to me, the stupidest thing is that the others who were with her were trying to get her to leave with them and SHE JUST WOULDN'T GO.

Sorry, but even Darwin doesn't have an award for that.

But, the underlying impact to me was the non-verified threat to life/imminent threat to life did not require firing their weapons. 

Reportedly, the folks in that stairwell were not armed.

A witness to the shooting  told the TV station WUSA9  that "a number of police and Secret Service were saying, 'get down, get back, get out of the way.' She didn't heed the call." At that point, the witness said, "they shot her in the neck."

"As protesters were forcing their way toward the House Chamber where Members of Congress were sheltering in place, a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon, striking an adult female," the United States Capitol Police wrote in a statement on Thursday.

"Medical assistance was rendered immediately, and the female was transported to the hospital where she later succumbed to her injuries."

A law enforcement official told NPR that Babbitt was unarmed.

She was unarmed - where was the imminent threat to life?

 
 
 
Ender
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1.3  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

It looked like nobody stopped these people, they just went straight in.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.3    3 years ago

That's bad. 

And before any NT clown says it...I never wanted defunding of police. And this is one of the reasons why

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.1    3 years ago
I never wanted defunding of police. And this is one of the reasons why

Defunding the police would not make 1 whit of difference to what is happening now.  Not sure why you even brought it up.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.2    3 years ago

There might be more police on site than what there are right now. That's why I brought it up

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.3.4  Drakkonis  replied to  Ender @1.3    3 years ago
It looked like nobody stopped these people, they just went straight in.

Yeah, kind of curious, isn't it?  An unbelievable level of incompetence on someone's part, it seems. Especially given the speculation of something like this happening over the last week. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.3    3 years ago

FBI swat team has entered the complex, reported at 4:35pm EST

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.6  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.3.5    3 years ago

ruh-roh...the shit's about to hit the fan

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.3.7  Thomas  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.6    3 years ago

Saddened without the capability of expression

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.2    3 years ago
"Not sure why you even brought it up."

Maybe for the same reason someone brought up BLM.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
1.3.9  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.3    3 years ago

Trout Giggles:

Former IMT here:

It is always wise to assume that internet fora such as NT are monitored. If the phone of Germany's Chancellor is monitored, if Edward Snowden is forced to flee the country for exposing massive domestic spying ...

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
1.3.10  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Ender @1.3    3 years ago

'It looked like nobody stopped these people, they just went straight in.'

As I see it, serious resistance was not offered. That raises substantial questions in my mind about the police themselves, their orientation, what they expected, what they were prepared to do, etc.

Trump cultivated a very close, careful and intentional relationship with police organizations. Were they waiting for a word to 'let them pass?' I can't speak to this. And the meaning of events is almost never clear at the moment when they occur. That includes Trump's highly uncharacteristic 'calling off' the demonstration.

Had Trump told the protesters, 'you've stood down and waited as I instructed ... now you're here at the right time, in the right place, with the right gear ... you know what needs to be done... now do it,' events would have played out very differently.

We came to the edge of the abyss, and it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Trump may yet initiate a major action against Iran and use this as a rationale for suppressing dissent at home. Don't doubt that these events will be studied by Trump supporters who will incorporate lessons learned into guidelines for future actions.

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.11  CB  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @1.3.10    3 years ago

Everybody adapts.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.3.12  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.6    3 years ago

800

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.13  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @1.3.12    3 years ago

I've been waiting on that meme

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.3.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.3    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.15  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @1.3.9    3 years ago

Ummmm....I'm not worried about the Gestapo

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.3.16  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.15    3 years ago
I'm not worried about the Gestapo

How about th NSA? How about ICE (whose helicopters have overflown manifestations)?

Be worried.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.17  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.3.16    3 years ago

I'm not saying anything wrong. We still have a constitution in this country.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.3.18  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.17    3 years ago
We still have a constitution in this country.

If you say so. We all saw a mob of White people do shit that would have gotten Black people killed. We saw our President encouraging the overthrow of our republic... with the support of a large number of Congresspeople.

If you think that old parchment meant much yesterday, you're a lot more optimistic than I.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.3.19  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.3    3 years ago
There might be more police on site than what there are right now. That's why I brought it up

There's needs to be a thorough investigation. Why were they so ineffective?

Was it a lack of sufficient numbers  of law enforcement officers on the scene?

Was it that they didn't do what they should've?

Or, possibly, some other factor?

(it may be easy for us to jump to conclusions., Something was definitely wrong...and there should be a thorough investigation to see what it was)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.20  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.3.18    3 years ago
If you think that old parchment meant much yesterday, you're a lot more optimistic than I.

Today's a new day, Bob

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.3.21  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.20    3 years ago

Yup... a LOT more optimistic!  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

Look how the 'president' incites these things and then leaves it to local law enforcement to clean up his fucking mess.  

Starts a fire and then pours gasoline on the flames . . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

All these republicans supporting tRump are dead weight.  How the hell do we get rid of them?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.5.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.5    3 years ago

All these republicans supporting tRump are dead weight.  How the hell do we get rid of them?

Well, they're all in one spot right now. Nuke the entire site from orbit--it's the only way to be sure.

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devangelical
Professor Principal
1.5.2  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.5.1    3 years ago

nuking them sounds somewhat excessive.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.5.2    3 years ago

It's the only way to be sure . . . . . 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.5.4  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.3    3 years ago

that would be a lot of radioactive granite and marble though... something that would clean up with a power washer might be better.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.5.5  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.5.4    3 years ago
that would be a lot of radioactive granite and marble though

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

They all got there. The DC Mayor called every agency she could and unlike the year of violence and rioting we went through in which cops were ordered to stand down and let the mob have it's way - today they came with guns drawn and live ammunition.

Who is responsible for the killing of that Air Force Veteran?

We want his name and we want justice!


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In memory of Ashli Babbitt


 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.6.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

She attacked her government.  She is dead at police hands.  Justice was served.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.6.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.1    3 years ago

I don’t [deleted like you deleted]

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.6.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.2    3 years ago

I have no problem with police defending themselves and those they protect with force.  Maybe you should ask what my views are instead of making assumptions, Sean.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.6.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.3    3 years ago
Maybe you should ask what my views are instead of making assumptions, Sean.

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Paula Bartholomew
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1.6.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.1    3 years ago

She brought a knife to a gun fight and the trash got taken out.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.6.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.4    3 years ago

You never heard me advocate for violent protests nor criticize police for using force in response to violence, either.

Stop trying to tell me what I think, Sean. It's dishonest and trollish. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

This "veteran" gave a black eye to all Air Force veterans. I took the same oath she did which was to protect and defend my country against all enemies foreign and domestic. I'm certain that the vets here on NT took that oath to heart and still abide by it to this day.

She tried to enter a federal building illegally and was shot. The traitor is dead.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.8  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.4    3 years ago

You are going off-topic. I will not put up with it. This is your only warning

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.6.9  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.7    3 years ago

Of course, we have the idiots on NT that never served a fucking day in their lives that are suddenly all outraged because a traitor got shot. 

Fuck them.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.10  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @1.6.9    3 years ago

Oh...but don't you know, Kav...you and I wear our service on our sleeves. I guess it's not ok to be a vet and a liberal. At least that's what I was told by a certain someone

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.6.11  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

very disappointing that more of her Q friends didn't join her.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.6.12  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.10    3 years ago
At least that's what I was told by a certain someone

Fuck him 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.13  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @1.6.12    3 years ago

Only with a ten foot pole at least 6 inches in diameter

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.6.14  Bob Nelson  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago
The DC Mayor called every agency she could and unlike the year of violence and rioting we went through in which cops were ordered to stand down and let the mob have it's way - today they came with guns drawn and live ammunition.

 That is more misleading than most lies.

Such misdirection is a typical fascist propaganda technique.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.6.15  Bob Nelson  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.6    3 years ago
Sean. It's dishonest and trollish. 

Gosh... what a surprise...

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
Freshman Silent
1.6.16  Duck Hawk  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

She got what she deserved. She turned against the US and her oath to defend the Constitution. I saw on other sites and major news organizations that she was a Q supporter and a a "right wing radical," her info was also posted on MSN. She was trying to break into a locked room with federal agents inside. She was the one who wasn't were she belonged.  Any of the Radicals that were in DC need to be arrested and tried for sedition. (IMHO).

As a former SGT of Marines, I fully support an armed response to such actions of SEDITION. I believe that if these idiots want to start the 2nd American civil war then we should put them down like Sherman did in his march to the sea. 

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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1.6.17  Duck Hawk  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.10    3 years ago

I met a lot of "liberals" while I was in. Interestingly, most of the ones I meet were in the Infantry or intelligence.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.18  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Duck Hawk @1.6.16    3 years ago

She had to come across areas where armed response was authorized if indeed she was in the Air Force. She went there of her own accord and died a traitor's death

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.19  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Duck Hawk @1.6.17    3 years ago

Intelligence and Infantry? That surprises me.

I knew a few. I worked in the Med Group

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.6.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.6    3 years ago
Stop trying to tell me what I think, Sean. 

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Sean Treacy
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1.6.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.20    3 years ago

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Dulay
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1.6.22  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.2    3 years ago

More false equivalencies. 

The more you and yours equate a locked down empty Federal Courthouse with the Capitol of the United States during a joint session of Congress, the less credible your comments. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.6.23  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.6.22    3 years ago

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1stwarrior
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1.6.24  1stwarrior  replied to  1stwarrior @1.6.23    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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1.6.25  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @1.6.24    3 years ago

This is a group, 1st, rules are a little different regarding moderation and commenting. As the owner of the group and the author of the seed it's up to me to maintain control. Devan is my appointed moderator for this group.

Now I would appreciate if you would stop telling group mods what to do and go back to making on topic comments or find somewhere else to play.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.6.26  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @1.6.22    3 years ago

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1stwarrior
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1.6.27  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.25    3 years ago

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Sean Treacy
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1.6.28  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.1    3 years ago

he attacked her government.  She is dead at police hands.  Justice was served.

I  don’t remember you advocating the feds shoot and kill the hundreds of rioters who attacked the federal courthouse in Portland with explosives over the summer, but I’m sure you did. It’s not like you have situational principals, right?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.6.29  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.28    3 years ago

Sean,

Until we know what happened there, there is no way to judge why she was shot. We all saw several photos of the police with their guns drawn so we know they felt that there was an imminent threat. I'm sure there will be an investigation. 

As for you comparing the rioters to what happened yesterday, that is a non starter. Those "patriots" came armed and attacked our government buildings. And while I feel that looting is always bad, that is not an attack on our government. What we saw yesterday was an armed insurrection, and if you can't tell the difference between the two, then that is on you.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.30  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

I thought this was deleted once already?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.6.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.29    3 years ago

e all saw several photos of the police with their guns drawn so we know they felt that there was an imminent threat

If the cop who shot an unarmed woman can demonstrate there was an imment threat from her, than there won't be charges. I'm not arguing that the cop should be arrested or charged, at all. 

What's funny is watching the same people who supported rioting because a criminal was shot while attacking a police with a knife and turned that criminal into a victim  so cavalierly dismiss the killing of this  woman.   

Those "patriots" came armed and attacked our government buildings.

How many nights did the armed rioters attack a Federal Courthouse or police stations?  And Democratic politicians and many progressives  here made excuses for them and attacked police for having the temerity to defend themselves.   If the BLM rioters had done what they did yesterday,  mayors like De Blasio and Lightfoot and politicians like Schumer would be out there today marching with them in support,. 

that is not an attack on our governmen

Attacking courthouses, police stations and police is the very definition of an attack on our government.  

day was an armed insurrection, and if you can't tell the difference between the two, then that is on you.

No, it's on you if you dismiss some  attacks against police and government buildings  but not others. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.6.32  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.31    3 years ago

Sean,

If you can't tell the difference between an armed attack on our actual government when in session, encouraged by the POTUS, then you are missing the entire event and how utterly shocking it was to watch. The world can tell the difference... somehow you have found a way to equivocate. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.6.33  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.29    3 years ago
We all saw several photos of the police with their guns drawn so we know they felt that there was an imminent threat

There where two police officers in uniform with guns pointed standing right behind her when she was shot.  An investigation is needed indeed.  

What we saw yesterday was an armed insurrection.

Do you mean at the nation's Capitol? Who was armed?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.34  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.29    3 years ago

You put WAAAAAYY too much power in this rag tag bunch of idiots. Insurrection, coup, and all the other terms are now becoming over used. They never had a chance and you and others know it. I'm not condoning just but rather trying to squelch some of the paranoia of the events. Trump is gone in two weeks. Let the guy just fade into the sunset. Any other action is purely for political points and the final "gotcha" for the dems so they can say they succeeded at finally, after all the ridiculous attempts, to push him out.

And all these resignations are just people trying like hell, NOW, to disassociate themselves for further career gains. Can't really say I blame them but.....................

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.6.35  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.25    3 years ago
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Sean Treacy
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1.6.36  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.32    3 years ago
e between an armed attack on our actual government when in session, encouraged by the POTUS, then you are missing the entire event and how utterly shocking it was to watch. The world can tell the difference... somehow you have found a way to equivocate. 

I oppose violent  riots and attacks on the government.  You pick and choose. That's the difference. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.6.37  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.35    3 years ago

No, that would be on certain other posters' seeds/articles - if you're for tRump, your comment stays, if you're not, your comment is gone.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.6.38  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.34    3 years ago
You put WAAAAAYY too much power in this rag tag bunch of idiots. Insurrection, coup, and all the other terms are now becoming over used. They never had a chance and you and others know it.

The British said the same thing about Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill so one should not diminish what they did. It was insurrection, but not a coup as history has taught us.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.6.39  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.38    3 years ago
. It was insurrection,

As long as you use that word to describe the assaults on police and the federal courthouse in Portland...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.40  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.34    3 years ago

There's a photo of a man dressed all in black with zip ties in his hands. What do you think that man intended to do with those zip ties?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.41  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.39    3 years ago

stop the trolling, Sean

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.42  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.40    3 years ago
What do you think that man intended to do with those zip ties?

Kinky sex at the hotel? You tell me what he was going to do with zip ties FFS. It may have been an undercover cop for all you/we know. 

Got that picture?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.6.43  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.36    3 years ago

Bullshit. You're defending this violent attack by deflecting to other nonequivalent incidents.  If you oppose violence and attacks on government,  you would agree that justice for this terrorist has been served.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.44  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.42    3 years ago

384

My point is that I think you're not taking this very seriously. That was a very large crowd and they overwhelmed what police presence there was. They made into the building and trashed it. Do you think that's all they intended to do was just vandalism?

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.6.45  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago
Who is responsible for the [ killing? ] We want his name and we want justice!

I agree-- and your photo of trump answers those questions!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.46  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.33    3 years ago
There where two police officers in uniform with guns pointed standing right behind her when she was shot.  An investigation is needed indeed.  

Do you have a photo or a link for that statement?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.6.47  1stwarrior  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.43    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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1.6.50  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.48    3 years ago

The cop that shot her (Capitol Police) was defending his life and those in his charge. Isn't that the same shit we get from folks whenever an unarmed black person is shot and killed?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.51  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.44    3 years ago

Again, you give WAAAYY to much power to these morons. Who fired shots? If it had been determined that they were an existential threat, the LEO's wouldn't have just stood there (basically) and let it get to where it was. Yep, they got in but then what? Feet on a desk. Stolen envelope. Broken glass. A total mess to clean up. There didn't seem to be that many to me that breached the doors or especially constituted a "deadly" threat. Perhaps you have a different idea?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.6.52  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @1.6.47    3 years ago
A friend writes:
"- Steve Scalise gets shot and almost dies;
"- Rand Paul is assaulted and severely injured;
"- Stephen Miller is harassed and threatened at his home;
"- Sarah Sanders is harassed out of a restaurant;
"- Maxine Waters publicly calls for the harassment of GOP officials and voters;
"- ANTIFA and BLM loot, destroy, kill, and burn down cities, on a daily basis for months, with impunity;
"- Aforementioned thugs can protest mask-less and without social distancing, while law-abiding citizens have to stay cooped up in their homes;
"- Josh Hawley’s wife and newborn child are harassed at their home;
[and much more]"
Non-equivalent incidents????

"Non-equivalent incidents????"

YES!!!!

Your continued deflection and whataboutisms and non-equivalencies are duly noted.  

What cities have anti-fa and BLM burned down????

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.53  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.51    3 years ago

Morons? Yes? Dangerous morons? Yes, again. I don't want a crazed mob running through my house.

I don't know why the police just stood there. I have my own theories but don't feel like sharing them. One shot that I know of was fired and that was the CP that shot that woman. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.6.55  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.50    3 years ago

Isn't that the same shit we get from folks whenever an unarmed black person is shot and killed?

Shouldn't folks be claiming shooting of an unarmed white woman by police proves that police nationwide are murdering white women and use the shooting to justify looting,  shooting people, destroying small businesses, arson and attacking police around the country? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.56  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.44    3 years ago
Do you think that's all they intended to do was just vandalism?

I have no clue and neither do/can you. As for the zip ties, you can see them on the floor all over in some of the pictures. What's to say this guy wasn't just harvesting some police "property". Again, all we can to at this point is jump to conclusions and that seems to be running rampant in some circles.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.57  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.55    3 years ago

That unarmed white woman was actually in the act of committing a crime.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.6.58  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.50    3 years ago

well done TG

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.59  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.56    3 years ago

So it's against the rules to speculate now?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.60  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.6.58    3 years ago

thank-you

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.6.62  Sunshine  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.50    3 years ago
The cop that shot her (Capitol Police) was defending his life and those in his charge.

Seems he was scared shitless to me.  Two uniformed cops standing directly behind her with their guns drawn didn't see her as a threat to shoot her.

We will see what further information an investigation tell us.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.63  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.62    3 years ago

Maybe he was. Can we use that same excuse whenever a cop shoots an unarmed black person? Scared shitless?

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
1.6.64  Sunshine  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.63    3 years ago

No we can't and we shouldn't here either.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.6.65  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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1.6.66  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.64    3 years ago

Why not? You just made the claim that you thought the CP cop looked scared shitless, didn't you?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.67  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.64    3 years ago

you just did ?

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
1.6.68  Sunshine  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.6.67    3 years ago

did what?

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
1.6.69  Sunshine  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.66    3 years ago

So? You said it was warranted and he should be excused for it not me.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
1.6.70  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.68    3 years ago
You just made the claim that you thought the CP cop looked scared shitless, didn't you?

"You just made the claim that you thought the CP cop looked scared shitless, didn't you?"

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.6.71  Sunshine  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.6.70    3 years ago

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Bob Nelson
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1.6.72  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.6.32    3 years ago
If you can't tell the difference between an armed attack on our actual government when in session, encouraged by the POTUS...

Perrie! 

You've known how this works for 10 years at least.

It's not because someone knows something like they won't say the opposite.

I suppose this shocks you... but there are NT members who are not honest! There are even some who are hypocritical.

Shocking, isn't it?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.6.73  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  1stwarrior @1.6.47    3 years ago

Have you noticed that with this going on, there was NO looting or burning in Kenosha last night after it was announced that the officer would not face charges in the Blake shooting? I wonder where all the antagonizing factors were?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.74  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.69    3 years ago

that's your answer?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.75  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.73    3 years ago

It was freaking cold last night in Kenosha? Maybe sitting near a warm fire with a cat in their lap?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.6.76  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.33    3 years ago

Fascists work diligently to develop reasonable doubt.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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1.6.77  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.75    3 years ago

Wasn't that cold compared to what it normally is this time of year. It was in the 30s; that's a heatwave for Jan.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.78  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.75    3 years ago

There was still an ACTUAL peaceful demonstration.......this time.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
1.6.79  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.40    3 years ago
There's a photo of a man dressed all in black with zip ties in his hands.

They look like law enforcement grade flex cuffs, and there is only one use for them.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
1.6.80  Sunshine  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.6.76    3 years ago

Oh gawd..fascist, sychopants, can you ever come up with something other than fear mongering bs?

I have no doubt you believe she deserved to die without any due process.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.6.81  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.79    3 years ago

er... 2...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.6.82  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.36    3 years ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.83  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @1.6.77    3 years ago

That's unusual. I figured it would be at least in the teens this time of year

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.6.84  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.6.39    3 years ago

Just answer the question!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.6.85  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.6.52    3 years ago

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bugsy
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1.6.86  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @1.6.85    3 years ago

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MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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1.6.87  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.83    3 years ago

It is usually in the teens this time of year. The entire upper Midwest has been warmer than usual all winter thus far. However, my anniversary and birthday is next week, so we'll probably get a hell of a snow dump just in time for it. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif There's only been a handful of birthdays through my entire life that it hasn't snowed considerably just before or on the day.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.6.88  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.41    3 years ago

... and breathing?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.89  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.73    3 years ago
Have you noticed that with this going on, there was NO looting or burning in Kenosha last night after it was announced that the officer would not face charges in the Blake shooting? I wonder where all the antagonizing factors were?

Now who's speculating?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.6.90  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @1.6.85    3 years ago

Where are these 'cities we're burning to the ground' on a daily basis?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.6.91  Bob Nelson  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.6.43    3 years ago
You're defending this violent attack by deflecting to other nonequivalent incidents. 

Oh!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.6.92  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.46    3 years ago

Kyle Rittenhouse!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.6.93  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @1.6.52    3 years ago

And how many Black people have been shot to death by police?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.6.94  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.6.88    3 years ago

He can breathe just not on me or take up my O2

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.6.95  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sunshine @1.6.48    3 years ago

Thank you. Hadn't seen that. It appeared he may have been standing in a doorway just inside the glass and shot through the glass she was behind to pop her. And in the neck? I'm going to guess yep. He was scared for his life...........even though, as someone said previous (perhaps you) that there were cops behind her in the same 10 feet or so that didn't feel the threat this guy did on the other side of the glass. She was unfortunately right in front of his gun and low hanging fruit.

Thanks for posting.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.6.96  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.6.89    3 years ago
Now who's speculating?

Obviously, both of us.

jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.6.97  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.96    3 years ago

You know, Jim, some days....

lol

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2  Ender    3 years ago

Unbelievable. donald urged these people and provoked them and now they are inside the capitol building.

I heard they deployed teargas inside and had to evacuate because they were trying to break onto the house floor.

I bet donald is smiling his ass off at what he has sown.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2    3 years ago

trump is on record of inciting this coup attempt.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @2    3 years ago

He just tweeted that they may have gone too far jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    3 years ago

Even fox news is condemning these people.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    3 years ago

trmp tweeted that?????

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    3 years ago

I think it was Fox that reported it.

I'm doing a lot of channel hopping.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    3 years ago

I just updated my seed from CNN. Trmp's tweet is quoted

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.4    3 years ago

320

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    3 years ago

very weak....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    3 years ago

Is Bunker Bitch Whiny Little Bitch Boy in his Bunker?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.8  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.6    3 years ago

Any other protest and he was quick to want to call in the national guard. Now he is silent on it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.9  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    3 years ago

Like any of those people are looking at their phones right now....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.10  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    3 years ago

Here's a quote from Jr's twitter feed:

Others inside the President's orbit tweeted their calls for calm as the mob repeatedly attempted to take over the building.
Donald Trump Jr., the President's son, said that his supporters who mobbed the Capitol were "wrong and not who we are."
" Be peaceful and use your 1st Amendment rights, but don't start acting like the other side. We have a country to save and this doesn't help anyone," he tweeted.
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.11  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.10    3 years ago

I don't buy it. They egged these people on, hyped these people up, filled these people's heads with lies and now are going to act like it is beyond their control?

Bullshit.

They pushed and pushed, what did they think would happen. Most of these idiots are saying they will never recognize Biden as the president.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.2.12  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    3 years ago

Trump is trying a CYA with that tweet.  Screw him and his supporters.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.13  Split Personality  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.12    3 years ago

Trump appeared live and asked for the people to stand down and then went into his own rant about being the real victim here, and everything he said gave them more reason to continue the "protest".

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
2.2.14  Freewill  replied to  Ender @2.2.8    3 years ago
Any other protest and he was quick to want to call in the national guard.
Now he is silent on it.

I’ve read reports that the White House did indeed call in the national guard, but conflicting info as to whether that was at the behest of Pence or Trump.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
2.2.15  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.7    3 years ago

Reports have that he got into his motorcade and ran like the little bitch he is.  Congress ended up in their own bunkers.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.2.16  Bob Nelson  replied to  Freewill @2.2.14    3 years ago

Trump opposed sending in the National Guard. Saying the contrary is a fascist-style Big Lie.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
2.2.17  evilone  replied to  Freewill @2.2.14    3 years ago
I’ve read reports that the White House did indeed call in the national guard...

The reports I read said aides and congress critters tried to get Trump to do so, but he would not. It took the Governors of Virginia and Maryland to send the request. EDIT: I just found this bit on CNN - 

Pence played a key role in coordinating with the Pentagon about deploying them, and urged them to move faster than they were.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.13    3 years ago

Yup and he told this freakshow coup that he loved them and that they were special.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.15    3 years ago
"Reports have that he got into his motorcade and ran like the little bitch he is.  Congress ended up in their own bunkers."

Yup, 'president' freakshow said he was going to walk with these freaks to the Capitol but got into his motorcade back his bunker.  

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
2.2.20  Freewill  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.2.16    3 years ago
Trump opposed sending in the National Guard. Saying the contrary is a fascist-style Big Lie

Wow!  Good thing I didn't say that then.  Goose-stepping and the Nazi salute are bad for my back and shoulder.  Also, not fond of the swastika as it is neither in my color wheel nor does it afford the necessary feng shui with my existing decor.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2.2.21  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    3 years ago
trmp tweeted that?????

That's what he does-- he tweets comments designed to incite violance-- then a little something to cover his ass. (But his supporters know what he really means..)

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.2.22  Bob Nelson  replied to  Freewill @2.2.20    3 years ago
not fond of the swastika as it is neither in my color wheel 

Fascism is a behavior.

(See Trump, Donald)

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.3  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2    3 years ago

teargas in the rotunda. come on national guard.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @2    3 years ago
"and now they are inside the capitol building"

What do these fucking morons expect now that they are inside?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.4.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.4    3 years ago

Do they have weapons?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.4.2  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.1    3 years ago

They found one explosive INSIDE so far...

They have noted at least three suspected packages or abandoned back packs outside.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.4.3  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @2.4    3 years ago

They are taking selfies of themselves sitting in McConnell's and Schumer's offices.

VERY EXPENSIVE selfies.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.4.4  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.1    3 years ago

I just turned on my local news and I'm just seeing President Elect Joe Biden giving an excellent speech.  He is calling for 'president' [deleted] to call for an end to this now.

'This is not protest.  This is insurrection.'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.4.5  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.3    3 years ago

I can't wait to see them in handcuffs.  

There better be a lot of arrests made.

I wonder who that woman is who was shot.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
2.4.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @2.4.5    3 years ago

Every one of them should have their stim checks confiscated to pay for the damages.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
2.4.7  Freewill  replied to  Tessylo @2.4.4    3 years ago
He is calling for 'president' tRumpTurd to call for an end to this now.

Wow! Actually called him “tRumpTurd”, did he?  Are you planning to file a complaint about him stealing your clever  nickname?  (-:

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
2.4.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @2.4.7    3 years ago

I doubt he used that name.  Name calling is Trump's MO and Biden is so above that sort of thing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.4.9  Tessylo  replied to  Freewill @2.4.7    3 years ago

Cute

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.4.10  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @2.4.9    3 years ago

his comedy skills lag far behind his mod skills.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
2.4.11  Freewill  replied to  devangelical @2.4.10    3 years ago
his comedy skills lag far behind his mod skills

Ah shit so nearly no comedy skills then?  Tough room....

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.4.12  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.4.11    3 years ago

RodneyDangerfield.jpg

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3  Ender    3 years ago

Now it looks like they have completely surrounded the capitol building.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

Anyone remember "Stand back and stand by"?

I wonder if there was a secret code tweeted out by trmp that was the go ahead for the chaos?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    3 years ago

I wonder what they think they are going to accomplish, other than trying to tear the house down.

Did you see the Graham tweet that resurfaced? I could only shake my head...

@LindseyGrahamSC
If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.
Now they are using RVs and blocking roads.
 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5  Kavika     3 years ago

Pence has been evacuated from the Capitol per CNN

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @5    3 years ago

Pence called in the NG.

Why didn't Trump?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Split Personality @5.1    3 years ago
Pence called in the NG. Why didn't Trump?

Because he's insane?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.1    3 years ago

Was there ever a more proper time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.2    3 years ago

About 10 days after the election would have been the time to start considering this.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Junior Participates
5.1.4  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.3    3 years ago

Agreed.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

I'm getting a very bad feeling

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    3 years ago

not to worry, early bird dinner specials start in less than 2 hours and all the reds hats and yellow flags disappear.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1    3 years ago

Where are all the defenders of these 'protesters'?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
6.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    3 years ago

hiding , asz they should be

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    3 years ago

bouncing around naked in front of their TV's and wearing maga hats while yanking it to ymca?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Ender  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    3 years ago

Puppetry of the penis?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    3 years ago

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    3 years ago

You know it is bad when I heard several people on fox even say that donald was lying to his supporters.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Ender  replied to    3 years ago

They should but somehow I doubt they would. They need to stop this farce now. If they had any integrity they would.

Now they are saying someone was shot.

I am getting a bad felling that come dark, it may get worse.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
6.2.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to    3 years ago

theirs and Trumps' LIES, will be the reason persons will DIE

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @6.2.2    3 years ago

I am getting a bad felling that come dark, it may get worse.

It undoubtedly will..

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.5  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.4    3 years ago

So no certification of the electoral vote today?

That's what they wanted and they got it

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.2.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.5    3 years ago

So no certification of the electoral vote today?

That's what they wanted and they got it

It's still President Biden at noon, 1/20/2020.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @6.2.6    3 years ago

Thanks, Ozz. That helps. I'm also imagining smoking a bowl with Mr Frost and Tessy

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.7    3 years ago

I'm going to take a couple of bong hits now and think of you both. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.8    3 years ago

Trump claims he'll lead march to the Capitol, only to slip back to White House in motorcade

Jeva Lange
Wed, January 6, 2021, 2:14 PM EST
As chaos ripped through Washington, D.C., on Wednesday afternoon, President Trump quietly slipped into his motorcade to be whisked back to the White House , despite having told his supporters that he was going to walk with them to the Capitol Building.

Trump had used his pulpit at his rally to continue to falsely claim that he had won the presidential election, going as far as to threaten his own vice president, Mike Pence, who   had publicly broken with him   by refusing to block President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Protesters, meanwhile,   stormed the U.S. Capitol Building , overwhelming federal police. From   behind bulletproof glass , Trump called for the rest of his assembled supporters to walk toward the Capitol to join the protests, claiming he would lead them in the march, which is being characterized by CNN as a "coup attempt."

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.10  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.8    3 years ago

'preciate ya!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.11  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.9    3 years ago

That yellow bellied chicken shit coward! I hope they see him for what he is finally

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.10    3 years ago

'preciate ya!'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.13  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.12    3 years ago

I always loved the circle.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.13    3 years ago

Me too.  That one is one of my favorites.  

Another favorite is when Jackie is in the circle for the first time.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.2.15  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.11    3 years ago
That yellow bellied chicken shit coward! I hope they see him for what he is finally

Anyone want to bet that he is once again "inspecting" the Whitehouse bunker?

a454bb0c-6fb0-40ff-9b89-a92366fab610.jpg

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.16  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @6.2.15    3 years ago

I hope he has wireless down there

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.2.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.16    3 years ago
I hope he has wireless down there

He's "inspecting" the WiFi connection in the bunker...

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
6.2.18  Raven Wing   replied to  Ozzwald @6.2.15    3 years ago
Anyone want to bet that he is once again "inspecting" the Whitehouse bunker?

I would expect him to do just that. To make sure he won't be able to be arrested or taken into custody by the Capitol police or the Military for inciting revolution/rebellion.

But, unless he can count on his staff at the WH and/or Melania to provide him with food and a port-a-potty while there, he won't be able to stay there very long.

If Melania stays with him, keeping Barron with them, then she is an accessory to the event as well, and endangering her own child by keeping Barron in harms way.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
6.2.19  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.8    3 years ago

I am way ahead of you on that.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.20  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.5    3 years ago
So no certification of the electoral vote today?

I am betting that they will postpone until tomorrow. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.21  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.20    3 years ago

I think they may go thru the night and get it resolved. there's a chance for less political theatrics without any cameras running on the inside.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.2.22  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    3 years ago
"The GOP members of the House and Senate bringing objections to the election should unanimously withdraw said objections and unanimously condemn the reactions their specious efforts have wrought."

Of COURSE they should - after all, they were part of the cause of this insurrection.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.2.23  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Raven Wing @6.2.18    3 years ago

Barron should change his name and go into hiding in another country.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
6.2.24  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @6.2.2    3 years ago

The woman who was attempting to breach a locked glass door was shot and later died.  She messed with the wrong bull and got the horns.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.25  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.20    3 years ago

They finished up early this morning. The election has been certified and Joe Biden will definitely be sworn in on Jan 20

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.26  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.20    3 years ago
"So no certification of the electoral vote today?"

"I am betting that they will postpone until tomorrow."

I already know this because it happened, but it's a good thing they continued on after the freak show was gone - didn't let them get away with it.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.27  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.25    3 years ago

tRump said there'd be a peaceful transition. . . . 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.28  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.27    3 years ago

And we all know he never lies....

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

Arrest Donald Trump right now.  Yank his fat ass out of his chair and put him in cuffs.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
8  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

It's funny how they are all wearing masks now.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8    3 years ago

they're concerned about their public image

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @8.1    3 years ago

They are worried about being identified with this shit

or better yet arrested for trespass, vandalism, refusal to disperse, resisting arrest etc

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
8.1.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Split Personality @8.1.1    3 years ago

And attempting a rebellious coup to help keep Trump in the Oval office.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
8.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8    3 years ago
It's funny how they are all wearing masks now.

Only because they fear the tear gas and pepper spray used by the LE.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9  Tessylo    3 years ago

image.jpg

LOCK HIM UP

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
10  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

Where is the fucking national guard???!?!?!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.1  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @10    3 years ago

From what I gather, donald won't call them in.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
10.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @10.1    3 years ago

I thought they were supposed to be there today just for this reason?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
10.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @10.1    3 years ago

From what I gather, donald won't call them in.

It's unfortunate that the D.C. Mayor cannot call them in. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
10.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.1    3 years ago

I thought they were supposed to be there today just for this reason?

Trump will not call them in or ask for his supporters to vacate the capital grounds because this is exactly what he wants. He said back in 2016 he loves to see people in conflict with other people. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
10.1.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @10.1.3    3 years ago

jesus h christ

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
10.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @10.1    3 years ago

That keileywhathernutzMcininny just tweeted that trump just called out the NG.  My ass.  Someone else had to do it because Trump refused.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.1.6  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @10.1.5    3 years ago

Now the press secretary is saying they are on their way....

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
10.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @10    3 years ago
Where is the fucking national guard???!?!?!

Well, I support calling them out, but all summer we were told it was racist or anti-democracy to call out the national guard on protestors. With that in my memory, I find it kind of funny that people are immediately demanding the NG come out today.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
10.3  Raven Wing   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @10    3 years ago
Where is the fucking national guard???!?!?!

They are on their way from DC, Maryland and Arlington VA.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
11  MrFrost    3 years ago

How ironic that the right wing claims to be very, "pro-police", then turn on a dime support trump supporters attack police. 

Trump's legacy? 350,000 dead, impeached and a failed coup attempt. That's what trump will be remembered for. 

Trump should be arrested today, right now, and tried for treason. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @11    3 years ago

I dunno about failed coup attempt....

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
11.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1    3 years ago

I dunno about failed coup attempt....

Biden will be sworn in on Jan. 20th.. This coup attempt will not be successful. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.1    3 years ago

I trust your word. I just need to calm down

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
11.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.2    3 years ago

Come over, I just bought some killer weed. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.3    3 years ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.5  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.2    3 years ago

Some of them are actually calling themselves a revolution.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.3    3 years ago
"Come over, I just bought some killer weed."

Same here!  Me too!

Come on over!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @11.1.5    3 years ago

Now that would be sedition. People go to prison for that

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
11.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.6    3 years ago

Me too.

"All I need is a cool breeze and some tasty waves." (Jeff Spicoli)

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11.1.8    3 years ago

"Me too.

"All I need is a cool breeze and some tasty waves." (Jeff Spicoli)"

The more the merrier!

Remember to bring some munchies.

I'll bring the Funyuns.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2  Kavika   replied to  MrFrost @11    3 years ago

Ivanka Trump tweeted that the rioters are ''American Patriots''....She took the tweet down.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @11.2    3 years ago

that...that...that....

I won't say it

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.1    3 years ago

that . . . . feckless . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @11.2.2    3 years ago

... FC.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @11.2.3    3 years ago

Now you two will get all the abuse heaped on your heads. LOL!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.4    3 years ago

boo hoo hoo, I'm on ignore ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
11.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @11.2    3 years ago

She tagged Trump as Meatloaf on the way to Geogia

Hilarious responses from people who noticed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @11.2.6    3 years ago
"She tagged Trump as Meatloaf on the way to Geogia Hilarious responses from people who noticed."

She's so proud of daddy meatloaf

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
12  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

Trump just now ordered the national guard?  Someone else finally called the national guard.  Had trump done it, he would have tweeted that he did it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @12    3 years ago
The Department of Defense has received a request from the US Capitol Police for additional DC National Guard forces but a decision has not been made, according to a senior defense official.
The official said DC National Guard was not anticipating to be used to protect federal facilities, and the Trump administration had decided earlier this week that would be the task of civilian law enforcement, the official said.
Wow. Just wow. Everything is going according to his plan
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
12.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.1    3 years ago
from the US Capitol Police

Yep, Donny won't do it. He loves this shit. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
12.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.1    3 years ago

They've had two months to plan this.  

Something else to consider:  While everybody is looking there, somebody better be looking behind us.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
12.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @12    3 years ago

Trump just now ordered the national guard?  Someone else finally called the national guard.

Trump didn't call them in.. I don't know who did, but no way in hell it was Dipshit Donny. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @12.2    3 years ago

White House: Trump has directed National Guard and other "federal protective services" to respond to riot

From CNN's Maureen Chowdhury and Ryan Nobles
White House Press Secretary tweeted that President Trump has directed the National Guard and other "federal protective services" to assist with responding to the rioters at the US Capitol. "We reiterate President Trump's call against violence and to remain peaceful," she tweeted.
Virginia is sending 200 state troopers and mobilizing a unit of the Guard to quell the situation at the US Capitol, according to Clark Mercer, chief of staff for Gov. Ralph Northam.

Looks Governor Northam of Virginia did it.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  MrFrost @12.2    3 years ago

It was the mayor who called the National Guard.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
12.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @12    3 years ago
Someone else finally called the national guard.

I would guess that it has to come from the president in some way. He is the CinC for the DC National Guard (in states, they report to a governor).

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
12.4  Raven Wing   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @12    3 years ago
Trump just now ordered the national guard?

No, Trump would never spoil his own fun. The DC Mayor and Pelosi called them in. They were already primed to be called in ahead of the protests and just needed to be transported to the location. Trump would never call them in to stop his loving rebels and insurrectionists from doing his dirty work for him from the safety of his hiding place. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
13  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

Ivanka Trump called these animals 'American Patriots' in a tweet.  Did anyone get a screen shot of it?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
13.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @13    3 years ago

I hope somebody did because that will definitely ruin her chances in 2024

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
13.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @13    3 years ago

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
13.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @13.2    3 years ago

Joe Biden is giving an excellent speech right now.

'This isn't protest, this is insurrection.'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
13.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @13    3 years ago

look below. does that work for you?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
14  JohnRussell    3 years ago

NYT reporting Trump refusing to act to stop rioting

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
14.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 years ago

While I don't support non-action, I don't see that many liberals (be they politicians or newspapers) will have much of a leg to stand on if they complain about the government letting these maniacs run amok. All summer long, we saw destructive and violent demonstrations - including the total takeover of a small part of Seattle, and nightly demonstrations in Portland that went on for weeks - and anyone who suggested the police or National Guard be called in was labeled as racist.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
14.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Tacos! @14.1    3 years ago

The difference being that this is happening to the Capitol of the United States of America. And that is a really different than the protests outside.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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14.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @14.1    3 years ago

Blah de fucking blah . . . . . 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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14.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @14.1    3 years ago

Funny, I hear politicians from both sides calling in to FOX & MNC, CNN

questioning why these predominately white protesters, egged on by the POTUS, are being treated with such "kid gloves" and deference?

More than one has asked what would the response have been if BLM were storming the capital?

What would be the difference in gunfire and casualties?

We aren't talking about 3 unremarkable blocks in Seattle or an already blighted couple of square blocks in Portland,

we are talking about the Capital while Congress is in a rare joint session.

I doubt people will call Pence a racist for calling in the NG on white people...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Thomas @14.1.1    3 years ago
The difference being that this is happening to the Capitol of the United States of America. And that is a really different than the protests outside.

I'm offended by these people forcing their way into the Capitol and I'm also offended at their illegal attempt to fuck with our Constitutional process. That said, what happened today - in terms of mob violence - is not better or worse than driving your car into a shop window or burning down a restaurant. They should be equally unacceptable.

 
 
 
CB
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14.1.5  CB  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.4    3 years ago

So to your mind, we should report shop windows breaking and fired restaurants around the world because such buildings are models of democracy and cutting-edge governance?

Clearly, the context and dynamics of any situation or matter to some conservatives can be diminished and hewned around its edges until it begans to fit every other occurrence.

I am offended by that!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  CB @14.1.5    3 years ago
So to your mind,

Funny you put it that way. You don't seem to be much interested in what's actually in my mind - just what you want to imagine is there. That's how it usually goes.

we should report shop windows breaking and fired restaurants around the world because such buildings are models of democracy and cutting-edge governance?

We should respond to those actions with outrage and law enforcement because they are violent crimes.

the context and dynamics of any situation or matter

I have already stated my feelings about the context. Ignoring my words on the subject would be an exercise in dishonesty. I hope you won't continue to do that. I'll repeat them here since you seem to have missed them (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt):

I'm also offended at their illegal attempt to fuck with our Constitutional process

There's some Context for you. That's a quote. Did you read it? It was in the comment you replied to.

This event didn't truly become outrageous until the people broke down barricades and stormed the building. Before that, it was just a demonstration - one I don't particularly support, but they have a right to demonstrate.

Meanwhile, when protestors were attacking federal buildings over the summer, Democrats and media didn't give a shit because they wanted to show sympathy for the political cause driving it. They let the violence and destruction go on and on and on. You didn't hear anything about the sanctity of government buildings.

Now they (and apparently you) want to pretend that these buildings that "are models of democracy and cutting-edge governance" are sacred to you? I'm not buying it.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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14.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @14.1.3    3 years ago

They should have had every firetruck available to hit these morons with high pressure hoses.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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14.1.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.4    3 years ago

Excusing the fascist assault on the Capitol is itself a fascist action.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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14.1.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.6    3 years ago

Trying to diminish the significance of yesterday's assault on our nation's capitol is just another fascist propaganda operation.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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14.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.4    3 years ago

"I'm offended by these people forcing their way into the Capitol and I'm also offended at their illegal attempt to fuck with our Constitutional process."

Sure you are . . . . 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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14.1.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @14.1.10    3 years ago

He never minded when Trump tried to fuck with the constitution.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  Bob Nelson @14.1.8    3 years ago
Excusing the fascist assault on the Capitol is itself a fascist action.

Well then it's a good thing I didn't do that. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.13  Tacos!  replied to  Bob Nelson @14.1.9    3 years ago
Excusing the fascist assault on the Capitol is itself a fascist action.

Maybe if you keep accusing people of being fascist, it will be true. You know, like chanting a magic incantation. Try some fairy dust next time.

 
 
 
CB
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14.1.14  CB  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.6    3 years ago
So to your mind,
Funny you put it that way. You don't seem to be much interested in what's actually in my mind - just what you want to imagine is there. That's how it usually goes.

So "to your mind" is a harmless idiom. Why attack it in the new year?

 
 
 
CB
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14.1.15  CB  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.6    3 years ago

Many of us, (not all) did give a "shit" for what it was worth, but it happened in spite of that. Context being what it was/is. Now then, while you are doing this "whataboutism' thing. . . riddle me this. Is the U.S. Capital, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the White House grounds - set apart and lifted up - in your mind or not?

Or does all ransacked and 'rooted' places in this country measure the same sense of respect and urgency to your mind?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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14.1.16  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.13    3 years ago

A fascist NEVER admits to being a fascist.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  Bob Nelson @14.1.16    3 years ago
A fascist NEVER admits to being a fascist.

Then I won't expect you to admit that you are a fascist. Although the red and black flags of your avatar might suggest otherwise.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.18  Tacos!  replied to  CB @14.1.15    3 years ago
Now then, while you are doing this "whataboutism' thing

Pointing out hypocrisy is not whataboutism. However, claiming whataboutism when confronted with hypocrisy is deflection.

Is the U.S. Capital, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the White House grounds - set apart and lifted up - in your mind or not?

Absolutely. And I have said so explicitly in multiple places on this site since this happened.

 
 
 
Thomas
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14.1.19  Thomas  replied to  Tacos! @14.1.4    3 years ago
That said, what happened today - in terms of mob violence - is not better or worse than driving your car into a shop window or burning down a restaurant. They should be equally unacceptable.

They are equally unacceptable because they are acts of violence, but one must weight actions according to the greater context in which they occur. What occurred yesterday was not, in any way, relative to somebody smashing a window to gain entry to a place of business. That would be like saying that the Whitehouse burning is equivalent to a general structure fire.

The Capitol Building of the US is a symbol of people working with people despite their differences, and that symbol was turned on its head yesterday as a direct result and logical outcome of the POtuS's inflammatory, bald-faced, outright lies to his followers. Period. There is no "maybe" involved. That is what happened and why it happened.

Trump has proven, once again, that he is unfit to hold the office.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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14.1.20  Tacos!  replied to  Thomas @14.1.19    3 years ago

I am bothered in a different way by what happened yesterday than I am by the riots of summer and fall because it has two components for me.

As an act of violence, it is no worse than the hundreds of incidents that took place in other places over the last year. In fact, several were worse. Businesses were emptied of their inventory or even burned down. Cops have been murdered.

As an act connected to American traditions of government, it is worse than anything that happened over the last year.

But I complained about all of those things all year long, while self-righteous partisans dismissed them or even encouraged them. So, I have earned the right to be offended by what happened at the Capitol yesterday. I'm not interested in the outrage from people who only get pissed off when their political opponents do something offensive and dismiss the actions of people they agree with.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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14.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 years ago
As the clashes broke out, Trump appealed for peace. “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” he tweeted.

The White House says National Guard troops along with other federal protective services are en route to the Capitol to help end an violent occupation by President Donald Trump’s supporters who are seeking to prevent the certification of the 2020 presidential election.

Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted that “At President @realDonaldTrump’s direction, the National Guard is on the way along with other federal protective services.”

As he faced growing pressure from allies to condemn the violence Wednesday afternoon, Trump tweeted, “No violence!” adding: “Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue.”

 
 
 
Thomas
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14.2.1  Thomas  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @14.2    3 years ago

Now he says that. A few hours earlier he was egging them on, like a kid playing with a matchbook in a room full of dynamite.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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15  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Protesters breach Nancy Pelosi's office

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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15.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @15    3 years ago

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Tacos!
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16  Tacos!    3 years ago

What a bunch of assholes.

It seems to me this is what can happen when people confine themselves to a bubble, tell each other only what they want to hear, and encourage bizarre conspiracy theories. They brainwash each other into doing something insane. 

And if any of these douchebags mocked crazy Democrats and their reactions after the 2016 elections, then they have proven themselves to be massive hypocrites.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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16.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @16    3 years ago
And if any of these douchebags mocked crazy Democrats and their reactions after the 2016 elections, then they have proven themselves to be massive hypocrites.

Link, please...regarding crazy democrats and their reactions after the 2016 elections.  I'll wait.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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16.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @16.1    3 years ago

Don't you remember the pussy hats, the gnashing of teeth, the shaking of fists at the sky, the rendering of clothes?

Me, neither. I remember pussy hats and tears but that;s all

 
 
 
Tessylo
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16.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.1    3 years ago

I remember wanting to cry when I heard that it wouldn't be Hillary in the White House but I moved on.  We all moved on.  

It appears tRump and his supporters are unable to accept/admit defeat.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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16.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @16.1.2    3 years ago
but I moved on.  We all moved on.

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JBB
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17  JBB    3 years ago

384

 
 
 
MrFrost
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18  MrFrost    3 years ago

Right wing talking heads are already saying that there are no trump supporters attacking the US Capital building...they are all AntiFa...

That's so fucking stupid it's comical. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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18.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @18    3 years ago

omg...they should all be fired for their outrageous lies

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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18.2  JohnRussell  replied to  MrFrost @18    3 years ago

that is funny.

what about all the Q flags ? 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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18.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @18    3 years ago

Are we awake right now?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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18.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @18.3    3 years ago

Close, just took my bong out of the dishwasher.. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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18.3.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @18.3.1    3 years ago

I'll be right over.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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18.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @18.3.2    3 years ago

Everybody needs to bring some munchies. . . 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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18.3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @18.3.2    3 years ago

Race ya!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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19  Gsquared    3 years ago

This is a neo-fascist coup and insurrection.  

I saw a Confederate flag and neo-fascist militia flag carried into the Capitol.

An IED was reported found on Capitol Hill.

Someone has been shot inside the Capitol building.

I saw someone with a crowbar smashing a door trying to break into the Capitol.

Biden is calling on Trump to go on national TV and call for stop to this.

If the protestors were black, can you imagine the police response?  

Every participant should be prosecuted for rioting and sedition.

And it was all incited by Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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19.1  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @19    3 years ago

I think the 'president' went on TV for all of two minutes calling for peace while still claiming the election was stolen.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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19.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @19.1    3 years ago

Trump just told the rioters:  "We love you.  You're very special."

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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19.1.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @19.1.1    3 years ago

oh that's helpful....

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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19.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Gsquared @19.1.1    3 years ago

As in special ed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
19.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @19.1.3    3 years ago

I was mistaken, it was more like a minute.

I believed you G-squared about the "We love you. You're very special", but I just had to hear it with my own ears.   

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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19.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Gsquared @19    3 years ago
This is a neo-fascist coup and insurrection.   If the protestors were black, can you imagine the police response?  

Yup

 
 
 
devangelical
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19.3  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @19    3 years ago

funny how there always seems to be a shortage of trigger happy cops around when trumpsters are acting unstable.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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20  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

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 This is bad.  This resort to mob violence and intimidation that has overtaken  this country the last year has to end, now.  It'd have been nice if the some of the people so outraged about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago, but that's never going to happen, because those are the people who blame "outside agitators" when they run amok. Or at least cared when left wing mobs were literally killing people this summer.   But wrong is wrong, and it's not acceptable for either side of the spectrum to resort to this. 

The mob has no place in a functional democracy and   I hope every single person who broke a law during this debacle is arrested and punished to the full extent of the law. Sadly, the celebrating of the mob and mob violence  by the media over the summer has set the precedent that this is acceptable. It's not. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @20    3 years ago

"It'd have been nice if the some of the people so outraged about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago, but that's never going to happen, because those are the people who blame "outside agitators" when they run amok."

Blah de fucking blah . . . . 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
20.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @20.1    3 years ago
ed about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago, but that's never going to happen, because those are the people who blame "outside agitators" when they run amok." Blah de fucking blah . . . . 

Let me guess, it was all outside agitators and white supremacists who did stormed the Wisconsin Capital to disrupt Scott Walker, right? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.1.1    3 years ago

Blah de fucking blah

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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20.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @20    3 years ago

What did Trump say to them this morning to make them go crazy? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
20.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @20.2    3 years ago
What did Trump say to them this morning to make them go crazy? 

 I've only seen news clips of the rioters. I didn't see any of it in real time, so I have no idea what the sequence of events was. Regardless, it's a disgrace.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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20.2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.2.1    3 years ago

oh that's a convenient excuse

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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20.2.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.2.1    3 years ago

Let me break it down for you.

1) Fuckhead Trump has been pimping lies and conspiracy theories for months because he is an insecure little bitch and can't handle losing.

2) He lost the election and then proceeded to relentlessly attack the basis of a functional democracy for months, continuing to pimp lies and conspiracy theories to his retard base.

3) He encouraged his retard base to attend protests in Washington today.

4) He gave a speech this morning that was his usual incoherent rambling and bitching and moaning while also telling his supporters to head march to the capitol.

5) We are watching the predictable result of all of Trump's bullshit over the last few years, the last few months especially. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
20.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @20.2.3    3 years ago

One funny thing someone pointed out about this coup - all these tRump supporters here staging their coup, they all got there at tRump's urging and now what do they do?  There's no bathrooms, no food, it's going to be below freezing. 

They do this stupid shit, for what?

How do they expect it to end?

Do any of these people have jobs?  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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20.2.5  Gsquared  replied to  Thrawn 31 @20.2.3    3 years ago

The New York Times is reporting that the storming of the Capitol was organized on social media.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @20.2.5    3 years ago

"The New York Times is reporting that the storming of the Capitol was organized on social media."

They can start there with the arrests. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
20.2.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tessylo @20.2.4    3 years ago
Do any of these people have jobs?

Clearly not, or they would make better clothing and tattoo choices.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
20.2.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @20.2.4    3 years ago

There's no bathrooms, no food, it's going to be below freezing. 

These are the kind of people who would just piss on tress and who would eat their own.  They can all turn into meat Popsicles for all I care.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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20.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @20.2.5    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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20.2.10  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thrawn 31 @20.2.3    3 years ago

AND...here's the kicker. trmp said he would march with them right down to the Capitol bldg.

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He never made it one step. Coward

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
20.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @20.2    3 years ago

"What did Trump say to them this morning to make them go crazy?" 

They were already nuts - inbreeding tends to do that 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
20.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @20.2.10    3 years ago
"AND...here's the kicker. trmp said he would march with them right down to the Capitol bldg.

He never made it one step. Coward"

Nope, the Whiny Little Bitch went right to his bunker.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
20.3  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @20    3 years ago
It'd have been nice if the some of the people so outraged about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago

I believe that they camped out there. Totally different than breaking and entering the US capitol.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @20.3    3 years ago

There's no comparison.  That's all he's got, projection, deflection, and lies. . . 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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20.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @20.3    3 years ago

Totally different than breaking and entering the US capitol.

No, it was the exact same thing. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
20.3.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.3.2    3 years ago

Oh Really? At what point did the protesters in Wisconsin fight through a police barricade, physically break into the state house during a legislative session, and start breaking shit because their candidate lost a free and fair election?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
20.3.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Thrawn 31 @20.3.3    3 years ago
At what point did the protesters in Wisconsin fight through a police barricade,

A bit hard to do since there wasn't one........................

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
20.3.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @20.3.3    3 years ago

did the protesters in Wisconsin fight through a police barricade, physically break into the state house during a legislative session, and start breaking shit because their candidate lost a free and fair election?

Thanks for makign my point for me.  Now you are going to split hairs on which sorts of mob action to disrupt a legislature are okay.  

I mean it's right here for you "Thousands of protesters rushed to the state Capitol Wednesday night, forcing their way through doors, crawling through windows and jamming corridors, as word spread of hastily called votes on Gov. Scott Walker's"

Locking doors to keep the police out.. entering Republicans' offices.  That's all okay because they were Democrats, right?

See, it's easy for me. I just condemn mob interference with our legislatures. You have to embarass yourself trying to defend some mobs and not others, as if your principle was anything other than "whatever my side is okay, whatever the other does is a threat to America."

 
 
 
Dulay
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20.3.6  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.3.2    3 years ago

Your own link doesn't cite even ONE instance of violence or destruction. 

Again NOT the same at all. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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20.3.7  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.3.5    3 years ago

There was NO violence or property damage Sean. NO arrests, NO citations. NOTHING, NADA. Just stop. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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20.3.8  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.3.2    3 years ago

Nope. They were let in.

Shortly after 8 p.m. Wednesday, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the locked King Street entrance to the Capitol, chanting "Break down the door!" and "General strike!"
Moments later, police ceded control of the State Street doors and allowed the crowd to surge inside, joining thousands who had already gathered in the Capitol to protest the votes. The area outside the Assembly, which is scheduled to take the bill up at 11 a.m. today, was crowded with protesters who chanted, "We're not leaving. Not this time."

and

At one point, officials estimated up to 7,000 people had spilled into the Capitol, some coming through doors and windows opened from the inside, including one legislative office and several bathrooms. Some door knobs and door handles were removed, Donovan said.
Officers eventually retrenched to the third floor, Donovan said, adding, "it was felt by several law enforcement officials that the best solution was to keep everybody safe" and stop trying to keep the crowds out.
Rob Koening, who has been involved in Madison protests for decades, exhorted protesters to remain peaceful.
"I ... encourage all my brothers and sisters to not make keeping this house our priority," Koening said. "It's not about maintaining this space. It's about building this movement."

Does not seem to be the same thing that we saw yesterday at all.

Let me put it another way: If your moral compass makes equivalence out of a group of people actually having their rights removed and a group of people whipped into a frenetic state for two months by misinformation and outright lies coming from the President Of the United States, then something is wrong with your moral compass.

 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
20.4  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @20    3 years ago
It'd have been nice if the some of the people so outraged about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago, but that's never going to happen, because those are the people who blame "outside agitators" when they run amok.

No one is going to 'speak up' about that because NO ONE stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse to try and overturn Walkers election. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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20.4.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @20.4    3 years ago

I was wondering why I couldn't remember that

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @20.4.1    3 years ago

It's funny how tRump and his supporters remember so many things that never happened!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
20.4.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @20.4    3 years ago

It was over the passage of a bill, not Walker's reelection. My bad.

But the point is the same,. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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20.4.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.4.3    3 years ago

No, it isn't, at all.

 
 
 
Dulay
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20.4.5  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.4.3    3 years ago
But the point is the same,. 

Nope, it isn't 'the same' at all. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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20.4.6  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @20.4.3    3 years ago

Nope . . . 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
20.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @20    3 years ago
It'd have been nice if the some of the people so outraged about today would have spoken up when progressives stormed the Wisconsin Statehouse and tried to overturn the election of Scott Walker a few years ago,

Yeah, that didn't happen.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
21  Ender    3 years ago

In better news, Ossoff has been declared the winner. That is two blue senate seats.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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21.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @21    3 years ago

Yeah, baby!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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21.2  Gsquared  replied to  Ender @21    3 years ago

Very good news.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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21.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @21    3 years ago

Judge Merrick Garland is going to be the new AG.  Expect a long list of indictments.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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21.3.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @21.3    3 years ago

The FBI is asking for all assistance in identifying rioters.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
21.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @21.3.1    3 years ago

"The FBI is asking for all assistance in identifying rioters."

I'm sure they're perusing their social media accounts right now.  The fucking idiots must have plenty of selfies from their insurrection.  Idiots probably have a lot of the evidence right there in plain sight.  

 
 
 
Ender
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21.3.3  Ender  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @21.3    3 years ago

I love that. A sap in the face to McConnell and the republicans.

 
 
 
Kavika
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23  Kavika     3 years ago

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freepress
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24  freepress    3 years ago

Trump and Bannon wanted to burn it all down and boy were they experts at conning their supporters. "Mission Accomplished". We need a National Deprogramming Unit to address the harm to all these deluded Trump supporters who have quite literally been indoctrinated into a cult. Fox and right wing media lied, spread outrageous propaganda, and are responsible for indoctrinating gullible people to a frenzied belief system that will accept the lies. Now they are like a Frankenstein monster where the creator of this mob cannot stop what they have created.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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25  MrFrost    3 years ago
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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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25.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @25    3 years ago

Talk about too little too late...  But, it's still good to know it happened.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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27  Right Down the Center    3 years ago

[deleted] most Republican lawmakers are denouncing what happened yesterday [deleted]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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27.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @27    3 years ago

This is fascist propaganda.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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27.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @27.1    3 years ago

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
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27.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @27.1    3 years ago

Indeed.  Their 'president' said he'd lead the fascist coup to the Capitol but bunker bitch whiny little bitch boy turned tail and fled to his bunker.  He's a fucking bully coward whiny little bitch.   

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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27.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Bob Nelson @27.1    3 years ago

[deleted] The same rules should apply for both sides.  Also note that most Republican lawmakers are denouncing what happened yesterday [deleted]

 
 
 
Ender
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27.1.4  Ender  replied to  Right Down the Center @27.1.3    3 years ago

What gets me with this whataboutism is the idea of trying to make things the same when they are not.

Try as some might, they never will be.

It cannot be compared, people fighting injustice they see on a daily basis, to people trying to subvert an election.

Not in the same ocean.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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27.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @27.1.3    3 years ago
Also note that most Republican lawmakers are denouncing...

How is it possible that even a single one is not denouncing what happened?

In a situation like this, anything less than full-throated condemnation is tacit support.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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27.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Bob Nelson @27.1.5    3 years ago
In a situation like this, anything less than full-throated condemnation is tacit support.

I agree.   Nobody should be supporting Trump at this point.   He has tarnished the office of PotUS far more than any president in my lifetime.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
27.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @27.1.6    3 years ago

He put them all in danger yesterday.  How anyone can support him in any way, shape, or form, is mindboggling, dumbfounding, incomprehensible

He even threw Mike Pence under the bus yesterday.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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27.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @27.1.7    3 years ago

I have no answer for you Tessylo.    What goes on with minds who, at this point, do not condemn Trump's behavior?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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27.1.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @27.1.2    3 years ago

I heard that he was taken to an airport to meet his moron children so they could fly out, most likely to FL.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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27.1.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Right Down the Center @27.1.3    3 years ago

The only reason they are is that the violence landed in their laps forcing them to work late.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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27.2  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @27    3 years ago

Blah de fucking blah

Deflection, projection, denial.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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28  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

I'm locking this seed because it's 400 comments and taking a while to load. Thanks everyone for your comments

 
 

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