12 Republicans Stormed Lawful Impeachment Proceedings
12 Republicans who stormed closed-door impeachment proceedings already had permission to attend
- Many of the House Republicans who on Wednesday stormed a closed-door hearing that was part of the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump would have been allowed to go inside if they wanted.
- More than 30 Republicans forced their way into the hearing, delaying it for about five hours. They now face allegations of risking national security.
- Twelve were already able to attend the hearing, as they sit on relevant committees, but they said they entered to protest its secrecy.
- Longstanding rules say witnesses should be interviewed in a classified setting. House Democrats have said they will hold open hearings once their initial investigation is done.
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Axios and BuzzFeed News reported that 12 of those Republicans were actually already able to attend the hearing because they sit on relevant committees, including the Oversight or Foreign Affairs committee:
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Paul Gosar of Arizona
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Mark Green of Tennessee
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Jody Hice of Georgia
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Jim Jordan of Ohio
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Fred Keller of Pennsylvania
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Carol Miller of West Virginia
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Ralph Norman of South Carolina
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Mark Meadows of North Carolina
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Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
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Steve Watkins of Kansas
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Ron Wright of Texas
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Lee Zeldin of New York
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-stormed-closed-impeachment-hearing-but-were-allowed-to-attend-2019-10?utm_source=reddit.com
Why the fuck would the 12 Republicans storm a hearing that they could attend? Were they pretending that they were locked out? I guess they wanted to please Trump (who inspired the stupidity). It's an idiotic way to deflect the attention away from the hearing that is part of the lawful impeachment inquiry. The Republicans want the headlines to focus on their lame angry mob "demonstration".
The "dipshit dozen" could have participated in the hearing and questioned the witness. Butt they didn't want to be a part of the process, they just wanted to disrupt the hearing.
There was a recent NewsTalker article, House Republicans Storm Secret Impeachment Hearing; Schiff Reportedly Gets Up And Leaves With The Witness by sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom. That awesome article received 541 comments . I found it amusing that many "law-and-order" types were forced to support Republican idiots who were trashing the SCIF by bringing in their cell phones.
It's obvious that the Republicans will do anything to disrupt and delay the impeachment inquiry. A judge recently rejected the Justice Department claim that the impeachment inquiry is lawful.
Judge orders DOJ to turn over Mueller grand jury evidence
The judge also determined, despite arguments to the contrary from the White House, that the House had launched "an official impeachment inquiry"
By Dareh Gregorian and Tom Winter
A federal court judge on Friday ordered the Department of Justice to turn over grand jury material referenced in redacted portions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to the House Judiciary Committee.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge for the Washington, D.C. district court, ordered DOJ to turn over the materials by Wednesday, Oct. 30.
"The Department of Justice claims that existing law bars disclosure to the Congress of grand jury information," Howell wrote in the 75-page ruling. "DOJ is wrong."
The ruling — which DOJ is expected to appeal — would allow House investigators to see redacted portions of the report that involve Donald Trump Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting with Russians promising dirt on rival candidate Hillary Clinton, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's sharing of internal polling data with a Russian business associate, and "information about what candidate Trump knew in advance about Wikileaks’ dissemination in July 2016 of stolen emails from Democratic political organizations and the Clinton campaign," the judge noted.
Howell found that despite public protestations from the Trump administration that House Democrats have not actually launched a formal impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, one is underway.
The White House Counsel's office has refused to cooperate with the inquiry , arguing it's illegitimate because the House didn't hold a formal vote to declare one.
Howell said that standard is "cherry-picked and incomplete, and more significantly, this test has no textual support in the U.S. Constitution."
"Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been required to begin an impeachment inquiry," Howell wrote.
The Judiciary Committee "has shown that it needs the grand jury material referenced and cited in the Mueller Report to avoid a possible injustice in the impeachment inquiry," and that the "need for disclosure is greater than the need for continued secrecy."
"Impeachment based on anything less than all relevant evidence would compromise the public’s faith in the process," she added.
Trump continues to obstruct the proceeding by trying to prevent Congress from questioning administration officials and refusing document requests. Trump's continual obstruction should be the first article of impeachment.
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There's no need to storm this article. Your participation is welcome.
Well said and thank you for the list of idiots that already had access. I guess they thought they needed to 'fluff' the numbers to make it look 'good'. IMHO, every one to them should be censored and fined since they violated their oaths of office and sworn affirmation in reference to the security protocols regarding the SCIF.
Here is an article about what the GOP Congressmen who ARE participating are asking about:
They seem to think they know who the whistleblower is and they don't seem to care that it is a violation of Federal law to disclose the whistleblowers identity.
As for the Howell ruling, it's awesome. It reads like a treatise on the jurisprudence of Impeachment and Congress' rights as a co-equal branch. My favorite part is that Howell uses the WH counsel's ridiculous letter as one of the reasons for the ruling. The DOJ's appeal filed today is the equivalent of 'nu uh'.
The judge managed to cut right through the ridiculous arguments posed by the DOJ.
Many of the conservatives on this site have used the same talking points in calling the impeachment inquiry illegitimate. Butt, guess what... they're fucking wrong.
The gaslighting is galactic. There are some that KNOW better and IMHO, they are complicit in gaslighting the others. It proves to me that they can't argue the issue on the merits. They have to deny, lie, deflect, misdirect because they have nothing else and then, when called out on their bullshit, they either lash out or bail, only to come back the next day [or sometimes just a different seed] spewing the exact same debunked bullshit.
Yep. "The DOJ is wrong" is about as succinct as it gets and Judge Howell documents exactly why with 'receipts', many of which quote GOP Chairmen or WH Counsel.
After reading some of the briefs coming out of the Sessions DOJ I thought that I had seen the worst. Then came Trump's WH Counsel's letter and now the DOJ appeal. It definitely got worse.
Here is the 75 pages from Judge Howell.
"Dipshit dozen"
those cheap fucks just wanted a free slice of pizza
Trump doesn't know how to eat pizza.
Who were those 'sophisticated' bastards that wanted Chik-Fil-A? Word on the street is that the left a fuckin' mess in their wake. Kinda like Trumplethinskin.
Do they prefer homophobic chicken to racist pizza (Papa John's)?
I would sincerely hope in today's world that adults would know that food is neither homophobic or racist.
Aw jeez.
Duh. That's a fucking joke.
The food is just food, however, the founders of ChikFilA and Papa John's are fucking assholes. So, I boycott the chicken and the pizza.
Schnatter said Col. Sanders also used the N-word. Butt, there is no evidence that Col. Sanders ever used the N-word. Schnatter is still the majority stock holder in Papa John's.
Samuel Truett Cathy, a homophobic asshole, founded Chick-fil-A.
Perhaps he thought this group is called 'Everything here is serious as a heart attack'
Never liked Papa John's pizza. Last time I had it the crust tasted like cardboard.
Luckily we don't have a Chick-fil-a around here.
Another one is Jimmie John's. The asshole likes to kill elephants, rhinos and other big game.
Nobody gives a shit who you boycott, or why.
What your personal perceptions of who those people are are merely your opinion.
So are you saying John Schnatter did NOT use the N-word?
Are you claiming that S. Truett Cathy was NOT homophobic?
Or, maybe, their behavior doesn't bother you a bit because they hate the same people you hate.
Do you even bother to read before replying?
Did I say those things--is THAT what you read, or are you just confused?
I stated that those were YOUR opinions. Do you know what that means?
They are facts which I documented (2.1.6).
Why did you dodge the questions posted in 2.1.10?
it is merely your opinion that those folks are racists.
I never directly answer inane questions.
Try to keep up.
I said John Schnatter is a racist. I provided the proof.
I said Samuel Truett Cathy was a homophobic asshole. And I provided proof of that too.
It's interesting that I proved my "opinions" with facts.
Isn't it great that "Big Business" can actually be charitable, no matter what the "Left" says about "Big Business" ?
Well, here's where your logic fails:
Schnatter is no longer associated with Papa John's Pizza, so your freaking bizarre claim that pizza from there is racist falls flat.
Just because someone isn't a cheerleader for gays doesn't mean they are homophobic. That is just a term some lazy fools choose to use to justify hating on someone different from them.
Yes, many corporations donate to charities.
He owns less than 17% of the company, and does not sit on the board. He really has nothing to do with the company now other than owning a part of it.
Calling the company racist is stupid bullshit from people who should know better.
Schatter is the largest shareholder in Papa John's Pizza.
He will always be "associated" with Papa Johns because of his "colorful language".
Nobody called the company racist.
I called the pizza racist which is obviously a fucking joke.
I even explained the joke.
I then documented the FACT that Schnatter (AKA "Papa John") is a racist.
Only a fucking hard head would deny it.
Perfect!
And he still only owns less than 17% of the company.
So what?
And that makes him the largest Papa John's stockholder.
WTF is your problem?
John Schnatter is a racist.
Do you use the N-word too?
Which I didn't deny. The claim made was that he was the majority stock owner. See post 2.1.18.
Now, if less than 17% ownership makes him the majority owner in your math-less world, so be it. It doesn't fly in the same world the rest of us live in, where less than 50% ownership would ever be considered a majority owner.
My "problem" is jerks who cry racist over every conceivable thing.
Do you know exactly what he said? He was QUOTING what someone else said.
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Do you always ask inane questions?
In one of his many different apologies he said he was "pushed to say it".
Read the link I provided.
'nuff said.
Please stop hitting on me.
I am already in a long-tern cyber-relationship with a fantastic woman - Cobalt.
I'm sure you can find someone else to newSTALK.
Maybe you can hook up with John Schnatter.
You seem to be in love with him.
Please stop posting in your sleep, because you HAVE to be dreaming to post such tripe!
And, here you are again.
As I said, I'm cyber-spoken for.
Cobalt and I are a cyber-couple.
Have a Papa John's pizza and find someone else to newStalk.
Oh, that's so cute! Best wishes for the happy couple!
Hope she keeps you!
Thanx.
Please stop newStalking me.
I am not stalking you, I am responding to posts made by you. That is how this shit works. If you don't want me commenting, either kick me off your article, complain to the mods, or ignore me.
I don't run to tell mommy, I don't kick anyone off of my articles and I don't ignore people.
Butt I do feed the trolls.
You are NOT obligated to respond to my posts.
Really? You sure do aim lots of comments at me. And you started the crap fest on this thread ( 2.1.4 Texan1211 ).
Do you need spelling lessons?
Well, no shit, Sherlock. And you aren't required to respond to me.
Of course, I wasn't the one whining and crying about some mythical stalker---how scary for ya!
I felt compelled to point out exactly how asinine the following statement made by you actually is:
"Do they prefer homophobic chicken to racist pizza (Papa John's)?"
You have several options here, which I have pointed out to you.
Instead of whining incessantly, how's about exercising one of them?
And I will even let you have the last word, seeing how important it is to you!
You're trolling. Either knock the shit off or get gone.
I think he loves me.
Which merely proves that you fail to get the gist of the purpose of this group:
If you can't get it, perhaps you should re-evaluate your membership.
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I would like to respond to you, but someone apparently is protecting you from reading what I write so as to not get your little feelings hurt.
Awww.
That's so sweet.
Wouldn't want someone to get upset in your little group.
You're being rude. Please leave this seed
I can't believe you waste your time commenting in whinners and butthurt threads. No discerning comments to there TDS mania will be tolerated.
Oh boy!
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Are you hungry too?
I found this automatic [deleted] feeder online.
Well gee Tex, I just got back from work. If you have something that you really need me to know, there's this thingy called chat where you can contact me. Just remember, the same CoC applies there as here. So if you can express yourself within the CoC, you should be able to do it here with no issues.
Oh and BTFW, why you be dissin' Sinners and Buttheads, callin it a 'little group' and shit?
The GREAT & POWERFUL Trout runs this place and if she said you were rude, you were RUDE.
Try harder.
Yet here you.
Just explain to your little friend that you're a big girl now and don't need protecting from mere words, and maybe she'll restore my comments.
I was equally as rude as you were.
Difference is I got flagged and you didn't.
Oh well...…...
WTF does that mean?
I suggest you take care how you refer to our group leader Tex.
I wasn't rude at all but you obviously were.
Hey, shit happens. Now you know how we feel about the 'moderation' on 'We the People'.
You are perfectly welcome to keep your suggestions to yourself.
Flat-out falsehood.
I don't care how you and others "feel".
Nice deflection.
You are perfectly welcome to post elsewhere.
Again, you just don't get the premise of this group. If you can't take ribbing, or a joke, this isn't the group for you.
We, who like it here, quickly tire of bitching and whining.
What next, are you going to hold your breath?
You'll never fit in here unless you can start adulting.
I just noted that Trout Giggles told you to leave the seed Texan.
You're obliged to leave. Do so.
He can't leave, it's like asking Trump to stop lying.
It's an adicktion.
You're here. And have posted lots of little memes in Frost's seed. Guess what? That seed is in Sinners and Buttheads.
If I said you were rude, you were rude.
You know why he won't leave? Because he loves to fight and insult people more than actually posting anything of real value
And thanks for the kind words
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Laugh at what ? my comment got deleted because it offended the whinners and Butthurts.
Nice.. lol
Those 12 have shit for brains.....if one is invited, why does one "storm" and make themselves look like complete and utter dumb fucks. But then again they're Republicans
To convince the other "dumb fucks" in their districts, to vote for them next time they are up for reelection.
I said this on Sister;s seed.
They had a meeting with trump then come out and do all this stupid crap.
It is like they cannot even embarrass themselves. I certainly would be, if for nothing else than being a stooge for dear leader.
Pathetic that we have elected members of congress that do not work for the people that elected them, they work for trump.
Sad and pathetic.
Yep. Their fearful leader told them to "shake things up".
The "dipshit dozen" pretended that they were locked out of the hearing.
Butt, had they attended the deposition, none of them would have had anything constructive to contribute.
The Republicans who attend these closed door hearings are only there to keep the White House informed of the progress.
They are probably acting like they do in public hearings, grandstanding and asking questions about Benghazi and Mueller.
Oh yeah, no one to grandstand to. I know, let's storm a secure area with our cellphones and take video and pictures.
They want to pretend they were locked out, then keep it real and totally lock them out.
A topic for which the republicans had several closed door meetings. But you didn't see any democrats storming those meetings. Because that's not proper protocol.
Why they felt they had to storm a meeting wherein republicans were in attendance is beyond me. It's a fuckin' Traitor-In-Chief move.
LOCK THEM OUT!
LOCK THEM OUT!
LOCK THEM OUT!
Judge Beryl Howell- nominated by Barack Obama, well that explains that.
More on this not so center judge.
I'm not surprised that you're using talking points from a right-wing blog.
I'm sure the DOJ will use those talking points when they appeal Judge Howell's decision.
And, I'm also sure that the DOJ will lose their appeal.
The DOJ keeps losing in court and appealing. Their strategy isn't a winning one. It's just delaying tactics to try to drag the impeachment out until the election.
Then, of course, when Trump loses the election he will will appeal the election results (or call for Civil War again).
Wow! Finally someone who admits to the pettiness.
Oh it's getting along pretty fucking good already.
So sometime late this year or early next year.
Well since it took the Senate a whole 36 days to acquit Clinton, I expect Moscow Mitch should be able to manage it before Super Tuesday, 2020.
Good news!
They found the fucking witch.
Didn't you hear Moscow Mitch say that they HAD to follow Senate rules?
I'm pretty sure that's how the GOP felt in Sept. 1973.
Then you should be cheering them on.
Article 1, Section 3, paragraph 6: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Yeah, yeah, Wally. Aren't you going to add a lot of baseless and made up "facts" without links like you have a tendency to do?
From your link:
After which he goes on to spew utterly uncorroborated bullshit.
These statements are logically contradictory:
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If they would have been allowed inside, then it shouldn't delay anything for 5 hours. Just let them inside and there would be no delay.
I have a hard time believing national security was at risk. I guess we'll just have to take their "word" for it.
That's kind of a joke. Let's be real, they have their minds made up already. They literally wanted to impeach Trump before he was even sworn in. So go ahead and ridicule Republicans for pretending they were locked out, but it's not half as bad as pretending you're investigating something you decided on three years ago.
They had cell phones. A no-no for anyone entering that meeting.
Do the math.
12 of the 30 Republicans who stormed the SCIF would have been permitted inside. Butt they joined in with approximately 18 others who were not permitted inside because it made a better photo op.
The phones are NOT permitted in a SCIF. Phones can be hacked.
The "pretend" investigation is producing evidence of impeachable offenses that will become articles of impeachment.
It's a well known fact that bald eagles hate toupees.
I think the "fearful leader" pissed his pants.
This is the guy who once said he would storm an active shooting situation and rescue the people. He can't even handle an angry bird.
the eagle thought trump's comb over was a prairie dog
But McCain was not a hero. Because he was captured.
One story handed down is that Papa Drumpf dropped the family liar [the "donald"] off at the military entrance processing station, but before Papa could leave the parking lot, the enlisting officer chased him down. Seems that Trumplethinskin ran down the hall and was “whimpering and crying and screaming” and "whimpering like a dog." Then the next day, he got bone spurs.
Are ''bone spurs'' hereditary?
Real ones, no. Fake ones, probably.
Congratulations!
You posted the 69th comment.
Can you guess what you won?
A thorough tongue lashing?