Trump's Public Confession

  
By:  al Jizzerror  •  2 weeks ago  •  145 comments


Trump's Public Confession
asking for help from foreign governments is illegal

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It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election - Ellen Weintraub (The head of the Federal Election Commission)

Opposition research, or as Trump calls it "oppo research" is valuable .  The democrats paid a U.S. firm to obtain a copy of the "Steele dossier". 


FEC chairwoman appears to subtweet Trump over the illegality of accepting foreign help in election


Savannah Behrmann , USA TODAY

WASHINGTON— The head of the Federal Election Commission reminded candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal in an apparent subtweet of President Donald Trump 

Ellen Weintraub's tweet came after  Trump exclaimed that China should investigate former vice president Joe Biden , despite already being in the middle of an impeachment inquiry after asking Ukraine for the same thing.

"By the way, likewise, China should start an investigation into the Biden's because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine," Trump told reporters on the White House South Lawn Thursday.

 “Is this thing on?” Ellen Weintraub wrote soon after Trump's press gaggle, re-upping her original scathing memorandum from June , accompanied with the microphone emoji.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/10/03/fec-chairwoman-subtweets-trump-over-accepting-foreign-help-election/3855546002/

Okay, that's the law.

Here is one of several public confessions Trump has made.

You just saw (and heard) Trump confess.  

You are now a witness.

Are you willing to testify against The Donald?

I am!


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al Jizzerror
1  author  al Jizzerror    2 weeks ago

LOCK HIM UP!

 
 
 
cobaltblue
1.1  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago

Here is the Traitor-In-Chief asking for China to investigate the Bidens . "If they don't do what we want, we have great power."

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.1.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1    2 weeks ago
Here is the Traitor-In-Chief asking for China to investigate the Bidens .

Yep.

That's another article of impeachment.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1    2 weeks ago

After the tariffs he imposed on China, what makes him think they would do anything to help him.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.2    2 weeks ago
After the tariffs he imposed on China, what makes him think they would do anything to help him.

As the code states, the 'solicitation' is enough, the 'receipt' isn't necessary. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1    2 weeks ago

"China  should start an investigation..........................can you pick out the operative word? Didn't hear him ask.............anyone.jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_50_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.5  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

Gotta link for that "code" because "Foreign National" doesn't fit the description of a country - which China is.

Foreign National - A foreign national is any person who is not a national of the country in which they are residing or temporarily sojourning. For example, a foreign national in Canada is someone who is neither a Canadian citizen nor a permanent resident.

Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 107–155, §303(2), added subsec. (a) and struck out former subsec. (a) which read as follows: "It shall be unlawful for a foreign national directly or through any other person to make any contribution of money or other thing of value, or to promise expressly or impliedly to make any such contribution, in connection with an election to any political office or in connection with any primary election, convention, or caucus held to select candidates for any political office; or for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any such contribution from a foreign national."

New section (a)

It shall be unlawful for—

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

     (A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

     (B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

     (C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.1.6  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Gotta link for that "code"????

https://thenewstalkers.com/trout-giggles/group_discuss/7179/trumps-public-confession

It's in this article.

Maybe you should read it before posting ignorant comments.

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Dulay
1.1.7  Dulay  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

Yep, right there on the bottom of Ellen Weintraub's statement. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.8  1stwarrior  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

Since you didn't understand it, obviously it wasn't so ignorant.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.1.9  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

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Dulay
1.1.10  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Foreign National - A foreign national is any person who is not a national of the country in which they are residing or temporarily sojourning. For example, a foreign national in Canada is someone who is neither a Canadian citizen nor a permanent resident.

That's hilarious 1st. 

Instead of relying on the definition in the US Code, you post a definition from Wikipedia. Without posting a citation for it BTFW. 

If you're going to try to argue that LAW with me, you better bring FACTS and a lunch. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

Dulay - you don't know WTF you're talking about.  Regardless of where it comes from, THAT is the definition of who a Foreign National is.

Believe me - I'll never argue the "law" with you - too low to go.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.1.12  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Gotta link for that "code" because "Foreign National" doesn't fit the description of a country - which China is. Foreign National - A foreign national is any person who is not a national of the country in which they are residing or temporarily sojourning. For example, a foreign national in Canada is someone who is neither a Canadian citizen nor a permanent resident.

Once again, read the fucking article.  This is right there in the article:

FEC Chairwoman Appears To Subtweet Trump Over The Illegality Of Accepting Foreign Help In Election

Savannah Behrmann , USA TODAY

WASHINGTON— The head of the Federal Election Commission reminded candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal in an apparent subtweet of President Donald Trump 

Let me repeat that:

The head of the Federal Election Commission reminded candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal
 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.13  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.11    2 weeks ago
Dulay - you don't know WTF you're talking about. Regardless of where it comes from, THAT is the definition of who a Foreign National is.

Well at least I  know how to read a fucking LAW.

From 52 USC 30121

(b)“Foreign national” defined As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means— (1)a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22

That means that you have to go to 22 USC 611(b). There you will find: 

(b)The term “foreign principal” includes— (1)a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;
Believe me - I'll never argue the "law" with you - too low to go.

You chased me all over the fucking seed making snarky comments and demanding that I spoon feed you information that is already right in the seed. I don't know if it's laziness or obtuseness that caused you to post those comments instead of carefully reading the law that was right in front of your face. 

Now you want to pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about. Well make a fucking argument because your proclamation goes NOWHERE with me. 

I note that you haven't even tried to defend Trump against the allegation that he violated 52 USC 30121. Your whole argument is that it doesn't apply. Well Chairwoman Ellen Weintraub and I say that it does, prove us wrong. Or is supporting your own fucking bullshit 'too low to go'? 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
1.1.14  cobaltblue  replied to  Dulay @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
That's hilarious 1st. 

Omigawd! How did I miss this?? I'm laughin' so darned hard!!!!! You're so right on, Dulay. 

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.15  Karri  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Oh. Puh-lease!  It is not wise to exculpate Trump by differentiating between a country and a person.  In fact, asking the country is worse.

For the record, I have many relatives who are residents/citizens of other countries.  They could not do anything for my campaigns.

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.2  Split Personality  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 weeks ago

This morning Mick Mulvaney is wondering how many other meetings he was not invited to.

He found out about the Baghdadi raid after the fact.  He is officially the White House's new "invisible man".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mulvaney-was-left-in-the-dark-on-al-baghdadi-operation/ar-AAJzePR?ocid=spartanntp

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.2.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    2 weeks ago
Mick Mulvaney

Here's Mickey being honest.

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MUVA
2  MUVA    2 weeks ago

no 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
2.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  MUVA @2    2 weeks ago

Be careful, you can be considered an accessory (after the fact).

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.1  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @2.1    2 weeks ago
considered an accessory

Like a pearl necklace~!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 weeks ago

Are you willing to testify against The Donald?

Count me in!  Time's a-wastin'! 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3    2 weeks ago
Count me in!  Time's a-wastin'! 

Count me in too! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1    2 weeks ago

I'm in!

 
 
 
Ronin2
4  Ronin2    2 weeks ago

The protect Joe Biden at all costs campaign continues.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 weeks ago

There is still ZERO evidence either Biden did anything illegal in the Ukraine. None. Only the words of a chronic liar. So yea they should be protected. 

Donny says lots of things, 85% of it is lies and made up conspiracy theories.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  MrFrost @4.1    2 weeks ago
There is still ZERO evidence either Biden did anything illegal in the Ukraine.

Durham and Barr aren't finished yet. jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.2  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
Durham and Barr aren't finished yet. 

Thanks for admitting that there is a perfectly LEGAL venue for investigations of Trump's conspiracy theory and that therefore Trump's Ukraine/China asks were unforced violations of the law. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Thanks for admitting that there is a perfectly LEGAL venue for investigations of Trump's conspiracy theory and that therefore Trump's Ukraine/China asks were unforced violations of the law. 

Ya....that's what I meant to say ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Are you for REAL ? 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

What LAWS did he violate with China and the Ukraine?????

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.5  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.3    2 weeks ago
Ya....that's what I meant to say !

The world is full of unintended consequences. 

Are you for REAL ? 

Yep. 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.6  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.4    2 weeks ago

READ the seed for that information 1st. It's ALL right there. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.7  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

Ahhh - can't handle the heat of actually DISCUSSING something, eh?  Got it.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.1.8  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Dulay @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
READ the seed for that information 1st. It's ALL right there.

This article (which conservatives can't comprehend) lays out the case that Trump has publicly confessed to violating FEC laws.

It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election - Ellen Weintraub (The head of the Federal Election Commission)
 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.9  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
Ahhh - can't handle the heat of actually DISCUSSING something, eh?  Got it.

You asked a question. I answered it. That WAS discussing something. 

What is it you want 1st? Do you want me to hold your hand through the content of the seed TOO? 

I suppose it's too much to ask that some people practice a little 'adulting' for themselves. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Read 1.1.5 - rrreeeaaaalllll slow.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @4.1.9    2 weeks ago

OK Duly - enough of the smart azz answers which are not answers.

My question TO YOU is simply - What LAWS did he violate with China and the Ukraine?  You haven't published/responded with any, so, please quit sidestepping.

Neither China nor Ukraine are "FOREIGN NATIONALS" - as such, the code listed is not applicable.

So, what, exactly, are the laws he violated?

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.12  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.11    2 weeks ago
OK Duly - enough of the smart azz answers which are not answers.

My question TO YOU is simply - What LAWS did he violate with China and the Ukraine?  You haven't published/responded with any, so, please quit sidestepping.

Neither China nor Ukraine are "FOREIGN NATIONALS" - as such, the code listed is not applicable.

So, what, exactly, are the laws he violated?

WTF is your major malfunction 1st? How many times do you have to be told the READ the fucking seed. The content of the law is at the very beginning and the number of the law is cited at the bottom of Ellen Weintraub's statement. 

Do you want me to look up the Code and spoon feed the fucking thing to you one sentence at a time. Sheesh.

All you have to do is copy the wording of the law from the seed and paste it into your search engine. Or scribble the code # down and type it into google. 

Oh and Zelensky is most definitely a foreign national. 

Get over yourself, and do some adulting 1st.

BTFW, it's DULAY. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.1.13  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.11    2 weeks ago
exactly, are the laws he violated?
It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election - Ellen Weintraub (The head of the Federal Election Commission)

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.14  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.11    2 weeks ago

It helps if you know how to read a fucking LAW.

(b)“Foreign national” defined As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means— 
(1)a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22

That means that you have to go to 22 USC 611(b). There you will find: 

(b)The term “foreign principal” includes— 
(1)a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;

So now that I have held your hand through the process, do you know what law he broke? 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.15  Dulay  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.1.13    2 weeks ago

I guess some are so used to swilling pabulum that when solid food is put on the table they just can't manage to digest it. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.1.16  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Dulay @4.1.15    2 weeks ago

It would help if they would just read the fucking article they are disputing.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.1.17  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Dulay @4.1.15    2 weeks ago

I love it they demand to know what "laws are violated".

They are admitting that they didn't even look at the fucking article.

The first sentence of this article is:

It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election - Ellen Weintraub (The head of the Federal Election Commission)

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.18  Dulay  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.1.17    2 weeks ago

I KNOW!

It's as if they think that if they actually READ some facts, the cognitive dissonance will overwhelm them and their whole world will collapse. 

Yet NOT knowing the facts doesn't keep them from proclaiming that there isn't any proof of Trump's Impeachable conduct. 

The RW petulance of just saying 'nu uh' is getting old. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

He keeps mocking member names like Mr. Frosts' and yours - if that was me, I would have gotten tickets every time  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.1.20  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.19    2 weeks ago

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devangelical
4.1.21  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.1.17    2 weeks ago

most of those in the current executive branch and their supporters are too fucking stupid to know what the Hatch Act is as well

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.22  devangelical  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.20    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
4.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @4.1.22    2 weeks ago

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devangelical
4.1.24  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @4.1.22    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2  cobaltblue  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 weeks ago
protect Joe Biden

And you protect a crook and traitor at all costs. There's no honor in protecting a known liar, cheat, thief, wannabe incest dad, and juvenile name caller. What's he hiding if he's so innocent? What's he afraid of? His kid may be looked at prosecutors down the line. His children are not as pure as the driven snow. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 weeks ago
The protect Joe Biden at all costs campaign continues.

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It Is ME
4.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3    2 weeks ago

I see an "On-Going" "Pattern" here ! jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.3.2  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3    2 weeks ago

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al Jizzerror
4.3.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @4.3.2    2 weeks ago

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It Is ME
4.3.4  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3.3    2 weeks ago

Please don't stay "Stupid" ! jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

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al Jizzerror
4.3.5  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @4.3.4    2 weeks ago

How about ridiculous?

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.3.6  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3.5    2 weeks ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.3.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3.5    2 weeks ago

No one has more respect for women than me...

Oh yeah?  Well no one wants to kick your balls so hard they fly out of your ears more than me.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
4.3.8  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @4.3.6    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.3.9  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.3.8    2 weeks ago

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cobaltblue
4.3.10  cobaltblue  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.3.7    2 weeks ago
kick your balls

That's assuming too much already. 

 
 
 
WallyW
5  WallyW    2 weeks ago

Trump will not be impeached over a courtesy congratulatory phone call to another leader

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1  r.t..b...  replied to  WallyW @5    2 weeks ago
Trump will not be impeached over a courtesy congratulatory phone call to another leader

But he will be impeached for coercing a foreign entity to investigate and thus diminish his main political rival in the run up to the next election. Where it goes from there is TBD...the Senate will conduct a cursory investigation, will not convict, and the election will proceed...in an unprecedented fashion where the incumbent is saddled with trying to gain reelection carrying an impeachment during his first term as his main accomplishment. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1    2 weeks ago
diminish his main political rival in the run up to the next election

Because of polls saying he is/would be the Dem nominee? Last I knew we had more debates and a long wait and many primaries to see who his "main political rival" is. And wasn't part of the premise to also find out if any "collusion" took place in the 2016 election by the dems to dig up dirt on Mr. Trump?

Morning my friend.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Biden is Trump's election rival , period.  They are running for the same office. 

Biden is not Trump's only rival, all the other candidates in both parties are Trumps election rivals as well, but Biden is definitely Trump's election rival . 

When Trump asks for a "favor" the only two parties he mentions as needing investigation are Democratic Party entities (The DNC and Biden). 

He is guilty as hell. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Because of polls saying he is/would be the Dem nominee?

Neither here nor there. His actions are subverting the process that separates us from every other form of governance...a free and open election conducted every four years where we as an electorate choose the candidate to best represent our common interests. His contention to tie-in possible corruption in the 2016 election is a separate issue, and one worthy of investigation. The behavior exhibited after his election, however, should concern us all and is certainly worthy of the same degree of investigation. 

...and a good morning to you as well.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
He is guilty as hell.

Thank you your Honor

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Dulay
5.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Because of polls saying he is/would be the Dem nominee? Last I knew we had more debates and a long wait and many primaries to see who his "main political rival" is.

It's about Trump's perception of a treat. Any review of the polls in July will prove that Biden was a + 15-19 points. 

BTW, the RNC 'polling' is the only one that matters to Trump and it's pretty clear that the RNC recognized Biden as Trump's biggest rival. 

And wasn't part of the premise to also find out if any "collusion" took place in the 2016 election by the dems to dig up dirt on Mr. Trump?

No. The election 'premise' was an utterly debunked conspiracy theory about the DNC server. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1    2 weeks ago

On what basis?  Tell us, exactly, what "laws" he violated.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
And wasn't part of the premise to also find out if any "collusion" took place in the 2016 election by the dems to dig up dirt on Mr. Trump?

It is rather hilarious that the Republicans low bar is set at "criminal conspiracy" so any other crime is apparently irrelevant to them. Sure, they once impeached a President for lying about a blow job, but now they are defending a serial adulterer and unindicted coconspirator where the other conspirator is already serving time, who we know has asked at least three foreign governments to dig up dirt on his political opponents (Russia, Ukraine and China), has said he and the murderous North Korean dictator had "fallen in love" and wished that Americans would "sit up and listen" to him like the oppressed North Koreans are forced to do for their vile leader. As long as no one finds "criminal conspiracy" though, the Republicans are more than willing to forgive and forget. Ten counts of obstruction? Not their problem. Holding back $391 million in congressionally approved military funding for an ally that is desperately trying to fend off Russian aggression, all to get dirt on a political opponent? Not their problem. Illegally spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep porn stars quiet during the 2016 campaign where his coconspirator is already serving time and the only reason Trump isn't in jail already is because the justice department ruled they can't indict a sitting President? Not their problem. They just look the other way and smirk at the frustration they see on faces of millions of other Americans. They've been waiting years to get back somehow at the "coastal elite's" who they feel have left them behind and changed America into a diverse melting pot some refuse to acknowledge as positive change.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.6    2 weeks ago
Tell us, exactly,

The GOP fallback position. By any metric of reason and logic, a quid pro quo occurred. They rest their case on the fact that the overwhelming preponderance of evidence does not 'exactly' conform to their blatantly partisan concerns . Unfortunately for them, recordings and testimony exist that do just the opposite. We should all welcome the investigations that are forthcoming, though the degree to which the Senate is willing to go will be an interesting exercise in observing their self-serving interest in walking the tightest of ropes.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.1.9  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.6    2 weeks ago
Tell us, exactly, what "laws" he violated.

He has violated obstruction laws butt this article lays out the case that Trump publicly confessed to violating FEC laws.

It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election - Ellen Weintraub (The head of the Federal Election Commission)

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

foreign national is a person - not a country, state or entity - so that code is NOT applicable.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.1.11  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
The head of the Federal Election Commission reminded candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal

Gee, the head of the FEC said "asking for help from foreign governments is illegal".

So that law IS applicable.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
foreign national is a person

True, and accepting information in regards to a US election from a person, (foreign national).........illegal. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.7    2 weeks ago

Now he's bribing folks to not testify against him with fundraising funds.  

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.14  cobaltblue  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
foreign national is a person - not a country, state or entity - so that code is NOT applicable.

Holy shit. Are you kidding me? Of course you're not. Of course.  

 
 
 
Karri
5.1.15  Karri  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.10    2 weeks ago

Are you saying that it is okay for foreign countries to have a say in our elections? 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.2  cobaltblue  replied to  WallyW @5    2 weeks ago
courtesy congratulatory phone call to another leader

Omigawwwwd! That's the hardest laugh I've had all day!!!! But the day is young, Wally. I'm sure you'll continue to amuse me to no end before the day is through. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3  Split Personality  replied to  WallyW @5    2 weeks ago

You are of course correct Wally.  But remember Nixon? 

Nixon wasn't impeached for the breakins at Watergate or his foul language in private.

He was impeached for the missing 18 minutes on a secret recording and the subsequent effort to cover up evidence that made him look bad.

What we presently have is a memorandum of a Trump phone conversation that lasted 33 minutes and is missing roughly 20 minutes of that

conversation and was secreted away in a special top secret safe for national security records,

not the normal repository for "congratulatory phone calls".

Three people testified that  the so called transcript is missing key sections, large key sections and phrases.

That smells like a coverup.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @5.3    2 weeks ago

They're gonna get Donny on obstruction charges. Watch and see

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Split Personality @5.3    2 weeks ago
That smells like a coverup.

It smells like another article of impeachment.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.3.1    2 weeks ago
They're gonna get Donny on obstruction charges.

The Mueller report cites 10 counts of obstruction.

800

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.3.4  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @5.3    2 weeks ago

If it's going to be considered a "cover-up", then the LtCol who was making editing comments/remarks should be the main suspect and not Trump.  Trump DID NOT write the transcript - nor did he approve the transcript.  However, an "expert" on the Ukraine conducted and edited the entire document, approving/disapproving phrases/words/context.

Hmmmmm.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.3.5  1stwarrior  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.3    2 weeks ago

You left out some very important wording - "Attorney General William Barr stated that there are ten episodes of potential obstruction"

POTENTIAL is the key word here - don't make something out to be a fact that isn't.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.6  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.4    2 weeks ago
If it's going to be considered a "cover-up", then the LtCol who was making editing comments/remarks should be the main suspect and not Trump.

What are you alleging Vindman was trying to 'cover-up' by correcting the record? PLEASE be specific. 

 Trump DID NOT write the transcript - nor did he approve the transcript.

No ultimately, his minions signed off on the final 'version'. 

 However, an "expert" on the Ukraine conducted and edited the entire document, approving/disapproving phrases/words/context.

First of all, are you denying that Vindman is an expert on Ukraine. You know that Trump named him to the NSC right? 

Secondly, it is part of Vindman's JOB to listen to and contribute to the accuracy of the summary of the call. He speaks fluent Ukrainian and Russian. So please tell me specifically WTF your issue is with him doing his JOB.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.7  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.5    2 weeks ago
Attorney General William Barr

Why would I give a shit what the Presidents personal lawyer spews?

 
 
 
Ender
5.3.8  Ender  replied to  Dulay @5.3.6    2 weeks ago

The best and most accurate political cartoon I have seen in a while.

512

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.3.9  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @5.3.8    2 weeks ago

Ya gotta love it when Cadet Bone Spurs tries to denigrate, demean and ruin the reputation of a loyal and Patriotic Military man, who put his own life on the line for his country, in order to cover his own fat a$$ as a traitor to our country. 

Trump may not pay for his crimes here on earth, but, he will not get a free ride when his time comes to face the Netherworld. 

 
 
 
Ender
5.3.10  Ender  replied to  Raven Wing @5.3.9    2 weeks ago

What is even more sickening is his loyal supporters jumping on the bandwagon.

They have no loyalty to country, only to the piece of shit that runs around the country holding rally's to satisfy his ego. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.11  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ender @5.3.10    2 weeks ago
They have no loyalty to country,

Yep.

It's always Trump over country with the White-wingers.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.3.12  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @5.3.10    2 weeks ago
holding rally's to satisfy his ego. 

Very true. We don't have a man ruinin.....eh...running the country, what we have is the sickening ego of a man that has no love for his country or its people. Only for himself.....and his eldest daughter.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.3.13  Raven Wing  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.11    2 weeks ago
It's always Trump over country with the White-wingers

I am very proud of our military men and women, who are willing to put their lives on the line for America and its people. ALL its people, no matter what their skin color, religion or lack of, their background, rich or poor. 

They are the true Americans, not Trump and his rabid, blood thirsty, war monger home grown terrorists. Many of which have likely never served even one minute in the service of their country, or willing to put their own life on the line for it and the American people. 

But, America has withstood other times of disloyalty and revolt and the people have won. It will take more than a piss ant like Trump and his a$$ kissers to bring America to its knees. 

 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.14  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Raven Wing @5.3.13    2 weeks ago
I am very proud of our military men and women

I like people who didn't fake bone spurs.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.3.15  1stwarrior  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.7    2 weeks ago

Simply because they, the POTENTIAL violations, are listed in Mueller's report.

Read it yet?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5.3.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @5.3    2 weeks ago
Nixon wasn't impeached for the breakins at Watergate or his foul language in private. He was impeached for the missing 18 minutes on a secret recording and the subsequent effort to cover up evidence that made him look bad.

Nixon wasn't impeached at all.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.3.17  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @5.3.6    2 weeks ago

Alright your honor - 

Nothing.

Yup.

Nope.  Yup.

None - just stating a possibility - not a fact nor a judgement nor a theory nor a hypothesis - just a "Hmmmmm".

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.18  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.15    2 weeks ago
Read it yet?

Yep.

The report specified 10 instances of obstruction.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.19  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jack_TX @5.3.16    2 weeks ago
Nixon wasn't impeached at all.

He resigned when he knew impeachment was inevitable. 

He avoided impeachment by resigning.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.3.20  Raven Wing  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.14    2 weeks ago
I like people who didn't fake bone spurs

Me too. It's a slap in the face of those who were/are willing to serve and put their own lives on the line for A-holes and cowards like Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.21  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.17    2 weeks ago
None - just stating a possibility - not a fact nor a judgement nor a theory nor a hypothesis - just a "Hmmmmm".

So you have no issue with Vindman doing his JOB but you just enjoy spewing allegations and innuendo about him. Pretty fucking sad 1st. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5.3.22  Jack_TX  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.19    2 weeks ago
He resigned when he knew impeachment was inevitable.  He avoided impeachment by resigning.

Yes.

But he wasn't ever actually impeached.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.23  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.4    2 weeks ago

2 points

1    We don't know yet, but I think we will eventually find out, why an actual transcript is not being done of every Presidential phone call and just who is editing the "boiled down" memorandums. It certainly wasn't the O-5.  He wanted the message to be more complete and someone overrode him, so no, he would not be a suspect.  The WH lawyer who refused the O-5's corrections and put the documents in the NICE system might have some answering to do and to explain the first phone call already in the NICE system...hmmmmm?

2     While Trump did not write the "Transcript", he certainly approved it's release, very publicly, over and over.  How many times has he said "it was a perfect phone call, read the transcript"?

If he released the "transcript"  without reading it, or participating in the editing ( which we clearly have no knowledge about ) then he is guilty of plain dumb negligence.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.24  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @5.3.16    2 weeks ago

Impeachment proceedings were under way for months.

Unlike todays vote of 232- 196  to proceed,

the vote on 2/06/1974 was 410- 4.

While legally Nixon resigned, the political process of impeachment succeeded by forcing that resignation.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.25  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.24    2 weeks ago
While legally Nixon resigned, the political process of impeachment succeeded by forcing that resignation

Yep.  When SCOTUS ordered Nixon to turns the tapes over to Congress, impeachment became a slam dunk.

Several Republican Senators, led by Barry Goldwater, told Nixon they were going to vote to remove him from office and they managed to convince Nixon to resign.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.3.26  cobaltblue  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.15    2 weeks ago
the POTENTIAL violations

Oh please. 

In a sudden and dramatic turn, Mueller, whose report on Russian election interference and Trump campaign links to Moscow was published [earlier in the year], delivered a sombre nine-minute statement that many construed as a signal to Congress to act on his finding that Trump sought to obstruct justice. “If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that,” Mueller said from a podium at the justice department in his first public remarks since the investigation began. 

Sometimes I'm just so damned curious to see how much some of the Traitor-In-Chief's supporters sold their souls for. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.3.27  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.25    2 weeks ago
Several Republican Senators, led by Barry Goldwater, told Nixon they were going to vote to remove him from office and they managed to convince Nixon to resign

Then Ford pardoned him, which I'm sure Pence will do. Even if they vote in the Senate not to impeach, this will forever go down in history. Trump's a crook, has always been a crook, and will always be a crook. He lies about every single thing. He's forever known as a cheat, a liar, and a guy who wants to screw his daughter. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.28  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.24    2 weeks ago
the vote on 2/06/1974 was 410- 4.

That was back when Republicans put country ahead of party.

The Republicans in Congress today have no respect for the Constitution.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.3.29  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @5.3.27    2 weeks ago
Trump's a crook, has always been a crook, and will always be a crook. He lies about every single thing. He's forever known as a cheat, a liar, and a guy who wants to screw his daughter. 

And Republicans are okay with that.

They'll still be defending him in Hell.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.3.30  Raven Wing  replied to  cobaltblue @5.3.26    2 weeks ago
Sometimes I'm just so damned curious to see how much some of the Traitor-In-Chief's supporters sold their souls for

Twelve wooden pennies and a free weekend at one of Trumps gold clubs.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.31  Dulay  replied to  Jack_TX @5.3.22    2 weeks ago
Yes. But he wasn't ever actually impeached.

If Nixon hadn't been pardoned he would have died in a deep dark Federal prison. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5.3.32  Jack_TX  replied to  Dulay @5.3.31    2 weeks ago
If Nixon hadn't been pardoned he would have died in a deep dark Federal prison. 

Probably so.

 
 
 
Karri
5.3.33  Karri  replied to  1stwarrior @5.3.4    2 weeks ago

an "expert" on the Ukraine conducted and edited

That is not quite correct, 1st.  The Lt. Col. tried to correct the summary (fill in the ellipses), but he was ignored.  That is when he went to the NSC lawyer.

 
 
 
Karri
5.3.34  Karri  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3.19    2 weeks ago
impeachment was inevitable

It wasn't only impeachment, al, but conviction/removal by the Senate.  Apparently he had only a few Senators who would have voted to retain him.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.4  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  WallyW @5    2 weeks ago
a courtesy congratulatory phone call to another leader

Did you watch the video confession embedded in the article?

The head of the Federal Election Commission reminded candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.4    2 weeks ago

Wally missed that part...or in true Wally-fashion he didn't bother to read the article

 
 
 
cobaltblue
6  cobaltblue    2 weeks ago

trump-is-rumpis-trump-is-aliar-a-fraud-a

 
 
 
It Is ME
7  It Is ME    2 weeks ago

"It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election"

It's a good thing Joe "Sleepy" Biden wasn't running for office when he got his kid a really, really "Lucrative" Job ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
7.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @7    2 weeks ago
It's a good thing Joe "Sleepy" Biden wasn't running for office when he got his kid a really, really "Lucrative" Job !

800

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @7.1    2 weeks ago

Love " Go To's ", when "ONE" has NOTHING ELSE  ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Was Joey a " Private Citizen " when he "DID THE DEED" ?

When "Running for Office"....there is "NO PRIVATE " ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
7.1.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @7.1.1    2 weeks ago
Was Joey a " Private Citizen " when he "DID THE DEED" ?

800

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

Having a SIMPLE "Pattern" isn't "Flattering" ! jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
7.1.4  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @7.1.3    2 weeks ago
Having a SIMPLE "Pattern" isn't "Flattering" !

You're so right (wing).

800

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @7.1.4    2 weeks ago

jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  It Is ME @7    2 weeks ago

As opposed to Trump putting his daughter and son-in-law in high positions of which neither were qualified to hold?

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.3    2 weeks ago
As opposed to Trump putting his daughter and son-in-law in high positions of which neither were qualified to hold?

Do they get a "Salary" ?

His "Daughter" should just "STFU" about "women" and "Rights" in business....huh.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
7.3.2  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  It Is ME @7.3.1    2 weeks ago
Do they get a "Salary" ?

They donate their salaries to their favorite charity - the pornstar hush money fund.

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.3.3  It Is ME  replied to  al Jizzerror @7.3.2    2 weeks ago
the pornstar hush money fund.

Cute is just that ….."Cute" ! jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
7.3.4  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @7.3.1    2 weeks ago
His "Daughter"

Why the scare quotes? Do you doubt her paternity? 

should just "STFU" about "women" and "Rights" in business....huh.

Were those 'thoughts' expressed on her private email or her WH email? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.3.5  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @7.3.4    2 weeks ago
Why the scare quotes? Do you doubt her paternity? 

Your Desperation is showing again ! jrSmiley_40_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
cobaltblue
7.3.6  cobaltblue  replied to  Dulay @7.3.4    2 weeks ago
Do you doubt her paternity? 

I think Trump doubts Barron's paternity. Because, remember, "Melania has a son ... together ... that she loves very much." 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
7.4  r.t..b...  replied to  It Is ME @7    2 weeks ago
Joe "Sleepy" Biden

Come up with that all on your own? Parrot away as necessary, but doing so is skirting the incestuous.

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.4.1  It Is ME  replied to  r.t..b... @7.4    2 weeks ago
Come up with that all on your own? Parrot away as necessary, but doing so is skirting the incestuous.

David Alexrod agrees with me ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.5  MrFrost  replied to  It Is ME @7    2 weeks ago

It's a good thing Joe "Sleepy" Biden wasn't running for office when he got his kid a really, really "Lucrative" Job !

So you are saying trumps kids who make a LOT of money in foreign countries, right now, today, should be thrown in prison? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.5.1  It Is ME  replied to  MrFrost @7.5    2 weeks ago
So you are saying trumps kids who make a LOT of money in foreign countries, right now, today, should be thrown in prison? 

Is that what I said ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bbl-1
8  bbl-1    2 weeks ago

"Trump's public confession."  ? ?

Uh, "When you're a star you can do anything," comment by the DJT pretty much covers it.

The Trump will be an entertainer to the very end.  His destiny is the same destiny as the late Lenny Bruce.  MAGA rallies filled with yawning red hats that can't remember why they are there.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  bbl-1 @8    2 weeks ago

Lenny OD'd on drugs.  Trump will do it with Big Macs.

 
 
 
bbl-1
8.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.1    2 weeks ago

I was referring to Bruce's stage performances in the end.  Spending his time railing about his court proceedings on obscenity charges.  Trump will also do 'the big whine' about being victimized.  Reread my last sentence. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.1    2 weeks ago

Apologies.

 
 
 
bbl-1
8.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.1.2    2 weeks ago

Although your 'Big Mac' comment does have authenticity.

The apologies would be mine.

 
 
 
lady in black
9  lady in black    2 weeks ago

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cobaltblue
10  cobaltblue    2 weeks ago
SAN FRANCISCO — The crowd of people waiting to get into the Apple Store in Union Square on a Tuesday in February 2017 included tourists, shoppers, techies — and Rudy Giuliani, the newly appointed cybersecurity adviser to President Trump.

Giuliani showed up at the San Francisco store after being locked out of his iPhone, just 26 days after Trump named him cybersecurity advisor,   NBC News reported Thursday, citing interviews with two sources and an internal Apple Store memo.

The former New York mayor had entered his passcode incorrectly 10 times and went to the store for help — a troubling move that suggests a sloppy approach to cybersecurity for someone so close to the president, experts said.

“There’s no way he should be going to a commercial location to ask for that assistance,” E.J. Hilbert, a former FBI cybercrime agent, told NBC, saying that Giuliani could be vulnerable to hackers and should have turned to White House technical officials for help.

* * * *

As for his 2017 appearance in San Francisco, a former Apple employee who was at the store when Giuliani sought help told NBC that the former presidential contender was waiting outside the store’s glassy facade when it opened at 10 a.m. that morning. A tech helped Giuliani erase and reboot his phone

While black t-shirt-clad employees at the San Francisco store said Thursday they couldn’t talk to a reporter or hadn’t heard about the Giuliani news, shoppers and tourists had a laugh over Giuliani’s iPhone woes.

“That’s not a shock to anyone who’s ever heard him speak on TV,” said Mike McKinley, who carried two white Apple bags with laptops for his New York hospitality business out of the store. “He almost seems senile at this point. It’d be sad if it wasn’t so disturbing.”

Mike Sparkuhl, a surgeon from Southern California who was browsing for a new iPhone before a lunch meeting, chuckled when he heard the news.

“It speaks to how the people the president chooses play fast and loose when it comes to security,” he said. “Whether you’re talking about (Giuliani’s iPhone), or about what they did in Syria.”

Cite

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
10.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @10    2 weeks ago
Giuliani showed up at the San Francisco store after being locked out of his iPhone, just 26 days after Trump named him cybersecurity advisor, NBC News reported Thursday, citing interviews with two sources and an internal Apple Store memo.

WTF?

Giuliani was named cybersecurity advisor?

And he can't even use a fucking iPhone?

That's like naming a foreign agent National Security Advisor.

Oh yeah.  Trump did that too.

 
 
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