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How The Left Has Used COVID-19 To Bankrupt The United States

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  3 years ago  •  146 comments

By:   Stephen Moore

How The Left Has Used COVID-19 To Bankrupt The United States
Under Trump policies, we had one of the most robust financial and economic expansions on record, especially regarding minority advancement and historic reductions in poverty. The entitlement state was in retreat as income growth and record job openings pushed millions of people out of the welfare state into work. If the left truly cared about the plight of the poor, they would have celebrated. Instead, the results showing tax cuts, deregulation and laissez-faire policies work made liberals...

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Democrats are using covid to ruin America.  They are creating big government and cramming the green new deal.  Covid has come from China and is giving us China like fascism as our government.  Democrats are using covid to control the economic choices of the people, limit individual rights, repress religious liberty.  They are using covid to trample upon the constitution and break us.  


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How The Left Has Used COVID-19 To Bankrupt The United States



Stephen Moore Jul 29, 2021

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I have never bought the conspiracy theories that COVID-19 was a diabolical political plot to undermine the country. But what is apparent with each passing week is that the virus has been the springboard for the left’s agenda to transform America in a way that Sen. Bernie Sanders, Michael Moore or Rachel Maddow could have never imagined.

Without COVID-19, President Joe Biden would never have been elected, of course. So, for the left, the virus defeated former President Donald Trump. COVID-19 is now the gateway to the left’s utopian agenda of multitrillion-dollar climate policies, hyperregulation of the economy, the rebirth of the welfare state and a radical redistribution of income.

Under Trump policies, we had one of the most robust financial and economic expansions on record, especially regarding minority advancement and historic reductions in poverty. The entitlement state was in retreat as income growth and record job openings pushed millions of people out of the welfare state into work. If the left truly cared about the plight of the poor, they would have celebrated. Instead, the results showing tax cuts, deregulation and laissez-faire policies work made liberals miserable.

COVID-19 made the rebirth of big government possible. Last year, with Trump still in the White House, Congress spent $6 trillion, much of it (such as the $600 a week bonus unemployment benefits) wastefully and ineffectively. But it was emergency spending.

The National Bureau of Economic Research recently declared the recession ended in April of 2020, and the recovery has been accelerating thanks to the vaccine.

We would be aggressively cutting government spending in a rational world, as we did after victories in World War II and the Cold War.

Instead, the left has leveraged COVID-19 fears to call for a $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill on top of the $1.9 trillion spent in March on welfare programs and now $4.1 trillion in public works programs; labor union protections; green new deal subsidies; Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps expansions; and bailouts of Amtrak, urban transit and schools. The public schools in many blue states were shut down for a year, yet taxpayers have to give the teachers unions $100 billion. Explain that one.

The Congressional Budget Office calculates all of this will add $20 trillion of new debt spending over a decade — and that is with a massive tax increase.

COVID-19 has somehow given a new license to even the nuttiest leftist ideas. So, we have Democrats speeding forward with a plan to raise tax rates to more than 50% and implement welfare benefits that can pay families more than $100,000 in annualized wage equivalent benefits. The government could hit and remain above 50% of GDP, matching the European socialist nations.

Spending programs that were once scoffed at with price tags in the billions of dollars are now sailing through with trillion-dollar budgets. Moreover, COVID-19 has unleashed Modern Monetary Theory, meaning that the federal government apparently has a no-limit credit card.

COVID-19 is all but over, and the toll has been awful. Life expectancy fell in 2020 for the first time since World War II. Tragically, the “cure” — or should I say, the carnage — of the Biden post-COVID-19 progressive experiment might, in the end, be far more devastating and long-lasting than the terrible disease itself.

Stephen Moore is a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation and an economic consultant with FreedomWorks. He is the co-author of “Trumponomics: Inside the America First Plan to Revive the American Economy.” To find out more about Stephen Moore and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    3 years ago
COVID-19 has somehow given a new license to even the nuttiest leftist ideas. So, we have Democrats speeding forward with a plan to raise tax rates to more than 50% and implement welfare benefits that can pay families more than $100,000 in annualized wage equivalent benefits. The government could hit and remain above 50% of GDP, matching the European socialist nations.

Spending programs that were once scoffed at with price tags in the billions of dollars are now sailing through with trillion-dollar budgets. Moreover, COVID-19 has unleashed Modern Monetary Theory, meaning that the federal government apparently has a no-limit credit card.

COVID-19 is all but over, and the toll has been awful. Life expectancy fell in 2020 for the first time since World War II. Tragically, the “cure” — or should I say, the carnage — of the Biden post-COVID-19 progressive experiment might, in the end, be far more devastating and long-lasting than the terrible disease itself.

https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/13661/how-the-left-has-used-covid-19-to-bankrupt-the-united-states
 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 years ago
COVID-19 is all but over, and the toll has been awful

It morphed into Covid-D and the toll will also be awful.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @1.1    3 years ago

Take your vaccine shots, stop worrying, and quit fear mongering

And show some concern and quit denying the reality of the ongoing super spreader event occurring at the southern border.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.1    3 years ago

Vaccines are not as effective against covid variants and will probably become increasingly less effective as newer variants emerge. If everyone had tried to get their shots asap without refusing to do so or spread misinformation about it, then perhaps we wouldn't have to worry about it now. Instead, people continue to be irrational and stupid and now there's a surge in covid cases again. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @1.1    3 years ago

No it won’t.  It’s much more mild in hospitalizations and deaths than the original.  We are likely to have flu like variants of covid for years to come.  That’s manageable without ridiculous controls on our actions or our economy which is the topic of the seed.  Democrats want to keep covid going longer so that they can use it to transform the economy into command socialism

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.2    3 years ago
Gordy327 wrote: "Vaccines are not as effective against covid variants and will probably become increasingly less effective as newer variants emerge".

Can you post some credible sources confirming that. I would expect the formula to constantly be modified as these variants appear, similar to the seasonal flu shots.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.1    3 years ago
Take your vaccine shots, stop worrying, and quit fear mongering

I have, I worry about those who have willfully not and by not taking them turning themselves into Covid Mary Petri dishes. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.6  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    3 years ago
 It’s much more mild in hospitalizations and deaths than the original.

That is a flat out lie. It's as deadly and much more contagious than the original. You are completely devoid of facts and spew BS. 

If you watched or read anything other than Fox you know right now we are in a huge surge. Wake up and quit posting lies.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @1.1    3 years ago

There's also the gamma variant now which I believe is deadlier

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    3 years ago

No, it's deadlier and that sheer ignorance is killing people

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @1.1.6    3 years ago

I don't understand how such complete ignorance and outright lies like this are allowed to stand here.  Every 'article' more ignorant than the last.

This is outright propaganda and misinformation and outright lies.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.10  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.9    3 years ago

He can't get away with his BS anywhere else...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    3 years ago

No it’s not.  The UK just went though a delta issue.  It lasted about 4 weeks and is receding.  No major upticks in hospitalization or deaths there just cases. It should be much the same here.  Not an excuse for more government controls over our lives.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.9    3 years ago

Sorry but it’s not a lie to disagree with you or the regime.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1.1.10    3 years ago

Where else am I. Are you suggesting if I’d have put my articles on Facebook or the videos from them on you tube that they would have been censored police state style?  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.3    3 years ago
No it won’t.  It’s much more mild in hospitalizations and deaths than the original.  We are likely to have flu like variants of covid for years to come.  That’s manageable without ridiculous controls on our actions or our economy which is the topic of the seed. 

The CDC has four variants of concern listed for the USA:  alpha, beta, gamma and delta.   A variant of concern is defined by the CDC as:

A variant for which there is evidence of an increase in transmissibility , more severe disease (e.g., increased hospitalizations or deaths), significant reduction in neutralization by antibodies generated during previous infection or vaccination, reduced effectiveness of treatments or vaccines , or diagnostic detection failures .

Also per the CDC:

These variants seem to spread more easily and quickly than other variants, which may lead to more cases of COVID-19. An increase in the number of cases will put more strain on healthcare resources, lead to more hospitalizations, and potentially more deaths. So far, studies suggest that the current authorized vaccines work on the circulating variants. Scientists will continue to study these and other variants.

From Yale Medicine :

“It’s actually quite dramatic how the growth rate will change,” says Dr. Wilson, commenting on Delta's spread in the U.S. in June. Delta was spreading 50% faster than Alpha, which was 50% more contagious than the original strain of SARS-CoV-2 , he says. “In a completely unmitigated environment—where no one is vaccinated or wearing masks—it’s estimated that the average person infected with the original coronavirus strain will infect 2.5 other people,” Dr. Wilson says. “In the same environment, Delta would spread from one person to maybe 3.5 or 4 other people.”

The vaccines are largely holding against these variants albeit not as effectively.   But new variants continue to evolve with no guarantee that the vaccines efficacy will hold up.


Democrats want to keep covid going longer so that they can use it to transform the economy into command socialism

Brain-dead, fear-laden conspiratorial nonsense.

The push to get people vaccinated is a critical measure to help counter the variants of COVID-19.    If Biden (and the Ds) wanted to keep COVID going (again, fear-laden, utterly stupid conspiratorial nonsense) they would talk down the virus and vaccinations like Trump did.   They are doing the opposite of that.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.15  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.11    3 years ago

We are not in the UK for Christ's sake. There are huge upticks in cases and hospitalizations including children in the US.

Cases in Florida are now over 16,000 per day and hospitalizations are again nearing record highs. Many hospitals are canceling elective surgeries.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.16  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.13    3 years ago

Dangerous disinformation gets people killed.

Sites which allow it can be held responsible...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @1.1.16    3 years ago

Sites which allow false claims to be repeated and then counter those claims with facts do a service to truth.   The counter arguments and facts that show the false claims to be stupid, emotional nonsense are arming people with good information.

It is important to have a place where false claims can be made by the irresponsible stubbornly ignorant so that they can be torn apart and shown to be crap.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.18  Gordy327  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.4    3 years ago
Can you post some credible sources confirming that. 

Here you go:

From the New England Journal of Medicine .

From the CDC

From the WHO

As reported in Observer .

From the IHME .

From Washington School of Medicine .

From the NIH .

I would expect the formula to constantly be modified as these variants appear, similar to the seasonal flu shots.

Studies are still being conducted to examine the mechanism and effects of Covid and the vaccines. Science is still learing about the virus in real time. So it's not just a simple matter of producing a new vaccine on the fly for every variant. Especially since we still haven't achieved herd immunity against the ancestral Covid virus yet. With each new variant, there's a chance for the genetic markers and receptors of the virus to mutate enough to further negate the effect of the vaccines.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 years ago

The Turd Reich and his republican supporters/enablers are already responsible for over 500,000 deaths and counting.

Now I believe they will be responsible for hundreds of thousands more.

They have so many deaths on their hands and if it weren't for them, we wouldn't be where we are now.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    3 years ago

The Turd Bidenreich and his democrap supporters/enablers are already responsible for over 200,000 deaths and counting daily. 

They will all be responsible for hundreds of thousands more.

They have so many deaths on their hands and if it weren't for them, we wouldn't be where we are now. They imported more covid from south of the border to keep covid alive to advance their political agenda.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    3 years ago

That comment is an out-and-out lie.

btw, the delta variant came from India, not south of the border and the whole world is now sick with it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.2    3 years ago

India didn’t have the degree of vaccination we do and most of what they had was far less effective than what we have.  It rolled through the UK and is receding there as it will here.  As long as biden is allowing the southern border to be open, he is a super spreader.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.2    3 years ago

Looks like your words were processed by an often-used confirmation bias spin mechanism to make the belief true in spite of the facts.   One can offer facts (as you did) only to see them spun into stubbornly ignorant bullshit.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.2.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.4    3 years ago

The variant came from India because of the very reason of low vaccination rate. It spread worldwide because it is even more contagious than the previous variant. It is receding in the UK since they 1. went back into lockdown, which is something that we would never do here in the US, and 2. They have a higher vaccination rate than we do.

Vaccinations by country

Doses administeredPct. of populationPer 100 peopleTotalVaccinatedFully vaccinated
World 52 4,012,379,298
U.A.E. 170 16,645,208 79% 71%
Malta 149 750,641 79% 74%
Bahrain 139 2,287,637 67% 64%
Uruguay 137 4,742,902 74% 63%
Chile 134 25,337,393 73% 64%
Qatar 132 3,730,856 72% 60%
Iceland 130 468,416 74% 70%
Canada 129 48,530,223 72% 58%
Aruba 129 136,907 68% 60%
Singapore 128 7,305,300 75% 55%
Mongolia 128 4,127,311 67% 61%
U.K. 126 84,300,153 70% 56%
Denmark 123 7,157,842 71% 53%
Israel 123 11,121,858 64% 59%
Belgium 122 13,996,874 69% 56%
Spain 117 55,185,352 67% 56%
Ireland 116 5,726,222 66% 54%
Portugal 115 11,852,193 67% 54%
Mainland China 115 1,601,249,000
Netherlands 114 19,751,575 68% 50%
Luxembourg 112 691,290 63% 48%
Italy 111 67,003,275 63% 51%
Curaçao 111 174,286 59% 52%
Maldives 110 583,034 61% 49%
Germany 109 90,998,253 61% 51%
Austria 108 9,553,753 59% 50%
Hungary 57% 55%
France 104 69,690,510 60% 46%
Switzerland 104 8,875,854 54% 48%
United States 103 343,361,524 57% 49%
Sweden 101 10,399,256 62% 40%
Finland 99 5,442,267 66% 32%
Norway 97 5,183,188 64% 33%
Greece 96 10,304,614 53% 47%
Czech Republic 96 10,192,331 52% 44%
Lithuania 94 2,612,291 50% 44%
Dominican Rep. 92 9,904,559

And I already posted that Biden is not letting people over the southern border... Here:

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.2.7  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    3 years ago

You've completely lost your shit.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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1.3  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    3 years ago

Complete mindlessness and nonsense. Categorize according to the following graphic.

800

The partisanship adds a twist of political masturbation.

Here is your assignment:

1. Find out how much money Federal Reserve Incorporated creates and pumps into the markets every month.

2. Then ask yourself to whom that money is available, and who will pay for it and how.

3. Then explain how the necessity of generating mountains of fictitious currency is a good thing afterall.

I had other questions, but these should suffice for now.

One final point: you're allowed to reply to these questions with partisan political masturbation.

I'm requiring intelligent, meaningful replies to a policy that has been in place for years.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2  Paula Bartholomew    3 years ago

[Deleted] Try visiting a red state hospital, say FL, and ask the over worked HCP's if covid is almost over.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2    3 years ago

Biden is extending the disease here by deliberately importing covid positive illegal aliens and shipping them off to red states.  That’s the super spreader. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    3 years ago
deliberately importing covid positive illegal aliens

Deliberately is quite the accusation, you of course have proof of your assertion.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    3 years ago

Of course he does not have proof.

Another NT user once said China allowed Covid to spread as an opportunity to take down Trump. The wild claims some make are beyond ridiculous. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    3 years ago

They are letting people into the country and transporting them to the interior knowing that they are covid positive.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    3 years ago

It's on the news daily...unless one is in complete denial, or willfully ignorant

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

Deliver evidence that our government is knowingly transporting COVID positive individuals into the interior of our nation.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.4    3 years ago

The word being used is "deliberately" and the phrase being used is "deliberately importing covid positive illegal aliens."

I watch CBC, BBC, CTV. Global, ABC, PBS and MSNBC for news and not one talked of "deliberately".

What do you watch to keep you from being wilfully ignorant?

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.8  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

I see you have dropped 'deliberately' from your tune.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hallux @2.1.6    3 years ago

Once they have been discovered covid positive and are not immediately deported along will all they have been in close contact with it becomes deliberate and willful with malicious intent to let them stay here. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

That's nice. Prove it!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.10    3 years ago

That they have settled covid positive and those in close contact with them in this country rather that deporting them is all the proof one needs to make this well founded allegation against the Biden administration.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.11    3 years ago

Still empty allegations. I asked for actual proof. Not your own opinion.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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2.1.13  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    3 years ago

Your guy wanted to spread infection. Get your story straight.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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2.1.14  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    3 years ago

The more we reply to inane nonsense, the less bandwidth remains for discussing class struggle.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.1.14    3 years ago

There is plenty of time to discuss many varied topics.   A focus on a single topic tends to desensitize people.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @2.1.14    3 years ago

The only class struggle is the war the bi coastal secular progressive urban elites including media, big tech social media, and multinational corporations and the non working  and servant class very poor against the working class, farmers, ranchers, some of the professional class, and middle class in this country.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.17  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.16    3 years ago

That is an idiotic comment.  This article, your introduction to the article and every comment you wrote are totally fraudulent.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Your mother is.

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.18  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    3 years ago
Deliver evidence that our government is knowingly transporting COVID positive individuals into the interior of our nation.

Hate to butt in here, but as we discussed back in March  there was indeed evidence from those on the ground along the border that undocumented immigrants were indeed crossing the border untested for Covid by the DHS unless they showed obvious symptoms.  Local resources were charged with trying to detain and emergency test these people with organizations like Catholic Charities trying to assist and arrange for places for those who tested positive to quarantine for two weeks.  It was reported that many who tested positive did in fact not properly quarantine and were released to locations north knowingly infected with Covid-19, with DHS clearance to proceed. The reports to which I linked can still be found   HERE  and  HERE.

In the Gulf Coast city of Brownsville, 108 migrants released during the past month have shown to be carrying the coronavirus, U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, said Wednesday. And he says that is putting the South Texas border community, as well as the volunteers who help them, and the border agents, at risk.

“They tested some of the people who got put at the bus station in Brownsville and according to the rapid tests, about 108 tested positive. So basically that creates a situation that they are letting people who are positive (for coronavirus) get on buses and with the permission of Homeland Security they can go anywhere in the United States,” Cuellar said during an online news conference.

But migrants crossing into South Texas are not getting tested for the coronavirus when they are first apprehended by Border Patrol agents. U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials have told Border Report that they do not have the staff or equipment to test everyone who is apprehended without documents on the border.
Felipe Romero, spokesman for the City of Brownsville, confirmed to Border Report late Wednesday that 108 migrants who were released at the downtown bus station in Brownsville over the past month by DHS officials have tested positive for the coronavirus. He said that nonprofit organizations, such as Team Brownsville and Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley, have stepped in to offer hotel rooms to the migrants for them to quarantine. But he said the city cannot stop the migrants from traveling because they have been issued documents by Department of Homeland Security allowing them north into the interior.   “We let them know and we guide them with CDC guidelines and explain to them that it’s really important that they isolate and quarantine, but I want to make clear that we can’t contain them. We can’t stop them,” Romero said.

Granted this was reported early after the new administration began to reset the border policy, and one would hope the conditions would have improved since then.  Although THIS more recent article does not bode well.

A Texas county judge has signed a disaster declaration to stop the U.S. Border Patrol from bringing in busloads of migrants — many infected with the coronavirus — from the Rio Grande Valley.

The actions occurred after Laredo officials last week expressed desperation that a growing number of migrants with coronavirus were being dropped off in Webb County. And it came after DHS officials had said they would stop busing the migrants, but then went back on their word.

The overlying concern is that at least 10% of all migrants apprehended in the Rio Grande Valley are testing positive for coronavirus when they are released to non-governmental organizations.

Border Patrol does not test migrants for coronavirus when they’re apprehended. Many border agents are being exposed and potentially infected during the three-hour bus ride to Laredo and are bringing with them the deadly virus that Saenz said Laredo hospitals cannot handle.

Currently, the city’s largest NGO-run migrant shelter remains quarantined due to COVID-19 infections, and Saenz says they have nowhere to put the migrants.

Since the start of July, Laredo-area DHS officials have begun taking in migrants from the Rio Grande Valley as well as Del Rio, Texas area.

The numbers went from three buses per day to six buses carrying upwards of 300 migrants, Saenz said.

More HERE from earlier this week:   

The COVID-19 infection rate for released migrants is over 10% here, making the situation more difficult.   The City of Laredo has sued DHS   to stop the transfer of migrants from the RGV to that South Texas city because the city’s mayor said he believes they are bringing coronavirus.

On Tuesday, Hidalgo County Judge Richard Cortez called on the federal government to stop releasing migrants into the area, which is suffering a staggering rise in local coronavirus rates.

Cortez also called on Abbott to allow him to re-implement coronavirus prevention protocols, such as a mask mandate.

"Ill-conceived policies by both the federal and state governments are beginning to have serious consequences on Hidalgo County. I call on federal immigration officials to stop releasing infected migrants into our community and I am further calling on Gov. Abbott to return to Hidalgo County the safety tools he took away that would help us slow the spread of this disease,” Cortez said in a statement.

It has been quite some time since these things were first being reported in February and March, and it would appear that it is only getting worse.  It is difficult to believe at this point that what the DHS is doing (or not doing as the case may be) is happening unknowingly.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.19  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Freewill @2.1.18    3 years ago

Thanks for documenting these episodes we remember seeing or reading news reports about dating back as far as months ago.  The ones being released back in March coincides with Texas, Mississippi,and other states ending all covid restrictions and mask mandates and being accused of Neanderthal thinking.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.1.18    3 years ago

XX made this allegation @2.1:

Biden is extending the disease here by deliberately importing covid positive illegal aliens and shipping them off to red states.  That’s the super spreader. 

Do you believe Biden seeks to extend COVID-19 infection in the USA?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.20    3 years ago
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Trotsky's Spectre
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2.1.22  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.16    3 years ago

'The only class struggle is...'

Anywhere on earth, working class people are those of any color or gender who must sell their labor power to survive.

Kapital can't exist without this. Yet these very dynamics unite workers everywhere against capitalist owners, investors and their governments.

You can't prevent class struggle; you can only repress it. And you know how well repression goes over with human beings.

As socialists, our task is to make this objective reality of Kapital [and the tasks arising from it] consciously understood.

Enjoy the ride!

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.23  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.20    3 years ago
Do you believe Biden seeks to extend COVID-19 infection in the USA?

No I do not believe he is purposefully trying to target red states by shipping people with Covid to them.  But the current policies are resulting in more people who have tested positive migrating further north either on their own or more recently actually being transported by the DHS to places like Laredo.  That does need to be acknowledged and addressed.

As indicated in the last report to which I linked, it is a combination of the Fed and State policies that is creating an explosive situation with the spread of Covid especially in the southern states.

I don’t buy into these red state blue state games, or these theories that Biden wants to spread Covid on purpose.   No Governor in any state is actively discouraging people from getting vaccinated as some have claimed either.

There are many reasons why Covid is spreading and why people are hesitant to get vaccinated.  We need to focus on each of those reasons, educate people and adjust policies intelligently without the animosity generated by over-politicizing and seeking to heap blame on political rivals.  We need to work together and our leaders need to quit putting politics in the way of real solutions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.1.23    3 years ago
No I do not believe he is purposefully trying to target red states by shipping people with Covid to them.  But the current policies are resulting in more people who have tested positive migrating further north either on their own or more recently actually being transported by the DHS to places like Laredo.  

My focus has been to challenge XX's claim that Biden seeks to increase the infections in the USA for political gain.

The sloppiness / incompetence of how we are managing our borders is in my mind a separate issue.    It is important, but it should not be used (by those like XX) to encourage nutty conspiracy theories such as Biden (and the Ds) purposely infecting the USA so that they can control the citizens.

I don’t buy into these red state blue state games, or these theories that Biden wants to spread Covid on purpose.   No Governor in any state is actively discouraging people from getting vaccinated as some have claimed either.

Well XX is now quite thrilled (see @2.1.21) because he thinks you have provided evidence that Biden wants to spread COVID on purpose.  

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.25  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.24    3 years ago
It is important, but it should not be used (by those like XX) to encourage nutty conspiracy theories such as Biden (and the Ds) purposely infecting the USA so that they can control the citizens.

Agreed 100%!

Well XX is now quite thrilled (see @ 2.1.21 ) because he thinks you have provided evidence that Biden wants to spread COVID on purpose.

Well he shouldn't be because that is not what I have done. I have reported on what is ACTUALLY happening due to Federal and State policies. This is being reported by Democrats and Republicans in the cities and counties along the border.  I have not claimed that the Feds or the State or any red or blue politicians are actively trying to spread Covid or discourage/prevent people from getting vaccinated.  THAT is what the partisans on either side are doing and I think it does more harm than good.  It puts politics in the way of focusing on the core problems and coming up with proper solutions.

There have been other folks here and elsewhere in the partisan blogosphere who have maintained that there is no impact from undocumented migrants entering the country without being tested by the DHS, later found to be Covid positive by third party emergency testing and then moving further into the country on DHS authority without proper quarantine.  If the science means anything to anybody, this is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, not simply swept under the rug or bussed to another city, nor reduced to a fricken Red vs. Blue circus!  Fixing this, and better educating people as to the importance of getting vaccinated (and addressing their concerns/hesitancy), are things we need to work on together, not continually arguing about which fucking party is to blame.

I can't control how people react to the facts that I present.  XX turns this issue into a weapon against Biden and we all know that doesn't help solve anything.  On another article I presented data from the CDC/KFF showing that African-Americans and Latinos lag well behind White folks and Asians in ALL states with respect to percentage of those communities fully or partially vaccinated.  Which indicates to me we need to pinpoint the reasons for that and focus on solutions to mitigate it to protect those communities and those around them.  Instead I was met with accusations of trying to shift the focus from a red-blue argument to a racist assignment of blame for our Covid issues to people of color.  WTF?!!!  Partisans will kill any efforts to logically identify the core problems and create reasonable targeted solutions by immediately injecting their partisan poison.   Don't you find that frustrating AF? 

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.26  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.24    3 years ago
Well XX is now quite thrilled (see @2.1.21) because he thinks you have provided evidence that Biden wants to spread COVID on purpose. 

I was responding to your 2.1.5 which was a response to his 2.1.3

They are letting people into the country and transporting them to the interior knowing that they are covid positive.

Turns out that statement is actually true if the "they" is the DHS.  You asked for evidence in 2.1.5 and since I had just read the reports, I provided them.  Should I have just kept my mouth shut since such facts are inconvenient, or they might be misused by some?

As to his statement at 2.1

Biden is extending the disease here by deliberately importing covid positive illegal aliens and shipping them off to red states.

Complete partisan bullshit!  And it only causes people to discount or ignore the actual facts behind the issue. You won't see me voting that kind of shit up.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.1.25    3 years ago
XX turns this issue into a weapon against Biden and we all know that doesn't help solve anything.

He (and others) will take a data point (e.g. sloppy handling of illegal immigrants) and connect it with an extremely long line to 'Biden wants infections to increase'.  

I was responding to your 2.1.5 which was a response to his 2.1.3

Context, however, was the allegation against Biden.   I used 'our government' in my challenge but I was thinking 'government by Biden's direction'.   I probably should have phrased it:   "Deliver evidence that Biden has knowingly directed our government to intentionally transport COVID positive individuals into the interior of our nation."

I try to make my challenges very narrow but obviously I do not always accomplish that.

With certain people here we are dealing with perpetual spin and often whole-cloth bullshit (making shit up).   Any remote kernel of truth is more than enough for them to confirm their bias.

Partisans will kill any efforts to logically identify the core problems and create reasonable targeted solutions by immediately injecting their partisan poison. 

Absolutely.   Pure partisan thinking is a major factor behind the sorry state of our current political system.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.28  Kavika   replied to  Freewill @2.1.25    3 years ago
Instead I was met with accusations of trying to shift the focus from a red-blue argument to a racist assignment of blame for our Covid issues to people of color.  WTF?!!! 

The accusations is BS, the response to that type of nonsense could be that Native Americans/Alaska Natives have the highest vaccinated rate by a long way. They are followed by Asians, then Native Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders. All of these groups are minorities so their argument is void at that point. Whites follow then Hispanics and blacks are the bottom two demographic groups. The mission is to find out and overcome the hesitancy in those groups, if we don't this pandemic will never end.

Many times the peer groups in each demographic have more sway than anyone else. Since I am a member of the most vaccinated group, IMO there are things that can be done to help get more of the bottom three vacinated, and continue more vaccinations in the top groups.

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.29  Freewill  replied to  Kavika @2.1.28    3 years ago
The mission is to find out and overcome the hesitancy in those groups, if we don't this pandemic will never end.

Finally!  Someone who understands me...LOL.  We see it the same way Kavika, thank you!.  I think that is a fairly simple concept to grasp, but as soon as finger pointing partisans get a hold of it, the mission goes out the window and it becomes all politics and blame game.  Facts are useless unless we use them to solve problems instead of using them as weapons.

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.30  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.27    3 years ago
Any remote kernel of truth is more than enough for them to confirm their bias.

I am truly sorry about that, but to me that is no reason to hide or suppress the truth.  Especially in a situation as critical as this where we need to identify the contributing factors in the spread of this disease, and the hesitancies to get vaccinated, and then develop reasonable solutions to every one of those factors to get the situation under control. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.1.30    3 years ago
... that is no reason to hide or suppress the truth.

Why did you state this?   I am not trying to hide or suppress truth.   I was challenging XX to back up his claim that Biden seeks to increase the infections in the USA for political gain.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.32  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.24    3 years ago

I only speak for myself among members here.  As to my posted cartoon, it just seemed so right on for this conversation. [deleted]

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.33  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Freewill @2.1.25    3 years ago

I too have received some blowback for mentioning vaccine reluctance being higher among Hispanic and African American communities than among Trump supporters.  That reality deflects from the narrative since a lot of people in those communities live in red states. 

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.34  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.31    3 years ago
Why did you state this?   I am not trying to hide or suppress truth. 

Sorry TiG, I did not mean to infer that you would want to hide or suppress the truth.  I know you would not. 

What I meant was that this border issue is not widely reported in the mainstream media and when I bring it up (not just here) some folks just don't want to hear it.   They will minimize it, blame it on Trump or other rival, suggest that I'm just being xenophobic, or insist that the issue is strictly a red-blue state issue especially in the South. I'm just frustrated I suppose when facts that could lead us to some real solutions and improvement are twisted to fit some partisan narrative by either side, and nothing gets done because of it.   

As usual, I flapped my gums too much here and wrote something without properly considering how it might be taken.  Sorry about that my friend.

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.35  Freewill  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.33    3 years ago
I too have received some blowback for mentioning vaccine reluctance being higher among Hispanic and African American communities than among Trump supporters.

I said nothing about Trump supporters, I said white folks and Asians because that is what the data shows, so don't lump me into that statement.  I don't even know if what you said is true.  I concur with Kavika that we need to address the particular reasons for hesitancy in each group and then use that knowledge to best educate everyone as to the importance of getting vaccinated.   I agree that Trump did tell people to get the vaccine back in Feb and March, but I think it would really help if he continues with that message in earnest given what we are seeing right now. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.36  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.32    3 years ago
As to my posted cartoon, it just seemed so right on for this conversation.  

It illustrates the blind partisanship replete in your comments.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @2.1.35    3 years ago
I agree that Trump did tell people to get the vaccine back in Feb and March, but I think it would really help if he continues with that message in earnest given what we are seeing right now. 

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Opinion | A vile new Trump-GOP claim about vaccines suggests trouble ahead - The Washington Post

July 19

It was only a matter of time until Donald Trump converted the debate over covid-19 vaccines into an occasion for his supporters to show their loyalty to him — and even worse, to the “big lie” that his 2020 loss was illegitimate.

“People are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don’t trust his Administration,” the former president  said  in a statement Sunday, referring to President Biden. “They don’t trust the Election results, and they certainly don’t trust the Fake News.”

There you have it: Trump is telling his supporters that they are correct not to trust the federal government on vaccines, because this sentiment should flow naturally from their suspicion that the election was stolen from him.

Expressing the former has been magically transformed into a way to show fealty to the latter.

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This suggests the anti-vaccine mania on the right may only get worse, at exactly the moment that we need it to get better. This vile new Trump claim hints at how this is likely to happen, with the complicity of even relatively responsible Republicans.

We’re seeing a   new surge in coronavirus   cases due to the delta variant and the lag in vaccinations, with new cases   overwhelmingly concentrated   among the unvaccinated. Both trends — surging cases and lagging vaccinations — are   unfolding primarily in red states .

It’s bad enough that Trump has now recast the question of whether to trust the federal government on vaccines as a proxy for whether the election was stolen from him.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.38  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.37    3 years ago

Is that good enough for you? 

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.39  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.37    3 years ago
People are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don’t trust his Administration,” the former president  said  in a statement Sunday, referring to President Biden. “They don’t trust the Election results, and they certainly don’t trust the Fake News.

Christ!  That is the exact opposite of the message he needs to send right now.  What utter dumb-fuckery!!!  

 
 
 
Freewill
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2.1.40  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.38    3 years ago
Is that good enough for you? 

You talkin to yourself John?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.42  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @2.1.40    3 years ago

If anyone believes that Donald Trump gives two shits as to whether or not anyone gets vaccinated , they need to have their head examined

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.43  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @2.1.39    3 years ago
Christ!  That is the exact opposite of the message he needs to send right now.  What utter dumb-fuckery!!!  

Does not surprise me a bit.   That sounds just like what would come from a malignant narcissist.    Although XX claims (without evidence) that Biden wants infection rates to increase, here we have Trump yet again providing an excuse for his sycophants to continue to not get vaccinated and, by extension, disregard sensible precautions while Delta flares in the USA.

Yet XX, et. al. will very likely spin this ...somehow... as Trump being a patriot.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.44  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.32    3 years ago

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.45  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Freewill @2.1.35    3 years ago

The fact is that a bunch of the progressive left do make a point of singling out Trump supporting conservatives for vaccine reluctance when other groups who actually vote their way in the majority have higher numbers of unvaccinated.  The left wing progressive narrative that its Trump supporters who are why vaccines are coming up short is a flat out bald faced lie.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.46  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.36    3 years ago

And I stand by everything I said to you.  Today’s Biden cartoon is even better.  See post #8 below.  I highly recommend it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.47  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.43    3 years ago

Trump has urged people to get the vaccine every time he’s asked about it.  If Biden had a functional brain inside that head of his, he’d be asking Trump to make PSA’s urging people to take the vaccine and then place his ads on Facebook, Twitter, You Tube , and network tv.  He’d do it if they asked him to.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.48  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.46    3 years ago
I stand by everything I said to you

jrSmiley_90_smiley_image.gif   meaningless platitude.   You standing by what you wrote adds nothing to its credibility;  just shows that you have nothing to defend your irresponsible hyper-partisan position.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.49  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.47    3 years ago

You cannot see how Trump is equating not getting vaccinated with 'defying the Biden administration'??

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.50  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    3 years ago

No, because he’s not doing that.  Now that you made the accusation, prove it! 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.51  Snuffy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    3 years ago
You cannot see how Trump is equating not getting vaccinated with 'defying the Biden administration'??

Yep,  it's partisan politics in all it's gory glory. Using something like this to attack the other party and by extension the Biden Administration. Kind of like how the Democrats last year used the development of the vaccine as an attack against Trump Administration and the Republican party.  You remember I'm sure, both Biden and Harris stating they would not trust or take the "Trump Vaccine".  This pandemic has been politicized from the very beginning and used to attack the "other" party all along. The lies and misinformation that was pushed from both sides as an attack on the other party was clear to see but people need to remove the scales from their eyes before they can see what is really happening. 

I'm confident that there are those on this board who will attack this because I used that "red flag" of both sides do it.  I can only hope that someday the majority of citizens of this country grow up to realize that the two political parties do not give a shit about any of us. So long as they can remain in power they will continue to use anything and everything to remain there. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    3 years ago

URP! This from Moore, King of the Supply Siders...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1  Split Personality  replied to  JBB @3    3 years ago

The Heritage Foundation, too.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    3 years ago

In other words, the BS Factory. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    3 years ago
The Heritage Foundation, too.

That is a very good organization.  Almost as good as the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the Heartland  Institute.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.1    3 years ago
In other words, the BS Factory. 

That would be Biden and Pelosi.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.3    3 years ago

How juvenile.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.4    3 years ago

Not so much as the post I responded to was.  Tit for tat.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.5    3 years ago

So a version of "you did it so I can too." That only makes it worse.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.7  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.5    3 years ago

original

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.8  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.7    3 years ago

[removed]

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.6    3 years ago

Good.  Launch a personal attack, end civil discussion.  So stop initiating the cheap shots.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.9    3 years ago

I'm not the one initiating the cheap shots here.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.10    3 years ago

See 3.1.4

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    3 years ago

See 3.1.5

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.12    3 years ago

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.12    3 years ago

See 3.1.6

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.14    3 years ago

See 3.1.4.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3    3 years ago

Supply side works. There is no better economic model for an economy.  

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.1  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2    3 years ago

You voted that up yourself. Nobody else would...

Never ever has cutting taxes increased income!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.2.1    3 years ago

Of course I did.  I always vote up my replies to secular progressives posts.  

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.3  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.2    3 years ago

We know, though nobody else hardly ever does!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.2.1    3 years ago

It has almost every time it’s been done.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.5  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.2    3 years ago
I always vote up my replies to secular progressives posts

... because no one else does.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4  Split Personality    3 years ago
Democrats are using covid to ruin America.

That's fertilizer.

 They are creating big government and cramming the green new deal.

Donald Trump inherited a Federal government of 8.5 million federal workers, contractors, military, postal and grants

and grew that to almost 11 million that Biden inherited. 

Nothing known as the "green new Deal" has passed yet.

 Covid has come from China and is giving us China like fascism as our government.

I think that falls under dramatic license.

 Democrats are using covid to control the economic choices of the people, limit individual rights, repress religious liberty.

The mother load of fertilizer.

 They are using covid to trample upon the constitution and break us.

 You never fail to disappoint our expectations, bravo...

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @4    3 years ago

Stephen moore is The Paul Lynde of Economics...

He cracks himself up he is so full of rightwing lies.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4    3 years ago

Stephen Moore is correct about each and every single point he made in his article without exception.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    3 years ago

Really?

The USA is bankrupt?

That's quite a credibility killer there.

COVID-19 is all but over,

Wow talk about credibility..."all but over" for who?

One one hand you agree that it's almost over, but with another seed you state we are deliberately importing it.

That's a rather problematic way of acknowledging ( at some level ) that this won't end here until it ends globally.

So which is it?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.1    3 years ago

No he said liberals are using covid as a rationale or cover to create programs that would if implemented would leave us in that condition.  He’s right.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    3 years ago

Meaningless declaration.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.2.3    3 years ago

That is exactly what post 4.2.3 is.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.5  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.4    3 years ago

Another Pee Wee Herman response. How droll.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.2    3 years ago
No he said liberals are using covid as a rationale or cover to create programs that would if implemented would leave us in that condition.  He’s right.

I'm older than you, fairly well educated and very well traveled, please don't insult your own intelligence or mine.

The title of this piece of partisan literary masturbation is written in the past tense.

How The Left Has Used COVID-19 To Bankrupt The United States

 

It's an inflammatory lie of gargantuan proportions.

But typical for Moore and his think tank.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.6    3 years ago

I’m proud of Moore and his foundation.  They are the ones who are correct here.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5  TᵢG    3 years ago
Democrats are using covid to ruin America.  They are creating big government and cramming the green new deal.  Covid has come from China and is giving us China like fascism as our government.  Democrats are using covid to control the economic choices of the people, limit individual rights, repress religious liberty.  They are using covid to trample upon the constitution and break us.  

"Chicken Little", emotional, irrational conspiracy theory.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago

What's funny is how they yell chicken little too whenever the topic of climate change and its impact comes up. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1    3 years ago
Spending programs that were once scoffed at with price tags in the billions of dollars are now sailing through with trillion-dollar budgets. Moreover, COVID-19 has unleashed Modern Monetary Theory, meaning that the federal government apparently has a no-limit credit card.

COVID-19 is all but over, and the toll has been awful. Life expectancy fell in 2020 for the first time since World War II. Tragically, the “cure” — or should I say, the carnage — of the Biden post-COVID-19 progressive experiment might, in the end, be far more devastating and long-lasting than the terrible disease itself.

https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/13661/how-the-left-has-used-covid-19-to-bankrupt-the-united-states#cm1619348
 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.1    3 years ago

Is there something you wanted to say?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.2    3 years ago

I sad it.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.3    3 years ago

Copy & pasting isn't saying anything. It's what one does when one doesn't have a valid argument or original thought to make.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago
Cartoon of the Day
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TᵢG
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5.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    3 years ago

This is the kind of crap that encourages simple minds to not take CDC/government recommendations seriously.   The cartoon makes it look as though these acts are entirely arbitrary when in fact these have been logical responses to changing conditions (i.e. at first this was based on learning-while-combating the virus and the pandemic and later the result of vaccinations and the pandemic slowing and finally in response to new variant infections).

This very stupid and false representation of what took place is what many take as their base of information.   They are walking about stubbornly ignorant.

You do a disservice to society by helping to spread this with your parroting.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    3 years ago

While I can disagree with the cartoon's lyrics

I can completely appreciate the comedy and political irony of matching it to The Hokey Pokey.

Now put your right foot in
Your right foot out
Right foot in
Then you shake it all about
And then you do the hokey pokey
Turn yourself around
That's what it's all about
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.1    3 years ago

CDC truly sucks at doing their job an have since Jan. 20.  

 
 
 
Ender
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5.3  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago

It is sickening to me that people use this outbreak of sickness as some political football and do nothing but spread lies and disinformation.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @5.3    3 years ago
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A.F. BrancoJuly 29, 2021
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A.F. Branco Cartoon – Political Science Quackery

With no science that supports children wearing masks, this is pure child abuse. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2021. Donations/Tips…

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Ender
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5.3.2  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3.1    3 years ago

A science denial. We all know...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @5.3.2    3 years ago

We all know it is a denial of science to make kids wear masks

 
 
 
Ender
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5.3.4  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3.3    3 years ago

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Paula Bartholomew
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5.3.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.3.1    3 years ago

He is a junk cartoonist.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.3.5    3 years ago

He’s one of the best political cartoonists.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.3.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @5.3    3 years ago

So tell the Biden regime to stop doing it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago

The truth is hard for some to handle..  

 
 
 
Veronica
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6  Veronica    3 years ago

What a piece of shit posted as a credible seed.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Veronica @6    3 years ago

It is only credible to him.  We know better.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1    3 years ago

Stephen Moore is a very accomplished economist and has been right on regarding his written opinion content for a long time.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8  MrFrost    3 years ago

Covid deaths over time in the US, for those making false claims about the Biden Admin. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @8    3 years ago

Riding Biden Out Of Town On A Rail – Tina Toon

TinaJuly 30, 2021

Tar and Feathers will be in short supply soon

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New Tina Toon

In Allentown, Pennsylvania an amazing scene unfolded.  Thousands of American citizens lined the streets to watch the “President” drive through their neighborhood on his way to “promote” American manufacturing that Biden is handing over to China. Expect American citizens were not cheering, they were jeering.

Yesterday thousands of Trump flags outnumbered the Biden flags as shouts of “Trump! Trump!” rang through the streets.  The people are awake and are giving fake President Biden a big middle finger.

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https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2021/07/riding-biden-out-of-town-on-a-rail-tina-toon/
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1    3 years ago

Right on Tina!  Well said.  Great cartoon and awesome photo. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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8.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.1    3 years ago

You fucking seriously gave props to your own post? Do you really have no low? One of the most pathetic people on the internet. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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9  Thrawn 31    3 years ago

I will sum up the seed right here.

Time began on 01/20/2021

 
 

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