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What happened to 'Honest Joe'? President Joe Biden's promises are turning into lies.

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  4 years ago  •  108 comments

By:   Scott Jennings (MSN)

What happened to 'Honest Joe'? President Joe Biden's promises are turning into lies.
Biden only looked honest next to Trump. We are finding out every day the consequences of judging someone by who they aren't rather than who they are.

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© AP Vice President Joe Biden.

President Joe Biden started a tweet Sunday with: "I give you my word as a Biden"

He was making a lofty promise about his signature legislation: that no one making less than $400,000 a year would see a tax increase.

I laughed out loud at Biden's tweet, because A) to what other name would he attach to his word? and B) Biden's word has never been worth less.

Furthermore, the promise was laughably false, disproven by the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, which found taxpayers in every income bracket - yes, every single one - would see a tax increase by 2023. Read it for yourself.

And it followed a series of falsehoods told by this president that makes Biden seem like everything he railed against in the 2020 campaign.

"The words of a president matter," Biden used to say. With a straight face.

Biden was elected on a promise to be different than Donald Trump. In fact, on Nov. 1, days before the election, Biden led Trump by 15 points on the question of which candidate is "honest and trustworthy," according to a Fox News poll.

It worked. He won. And then continued to profess honesty as he took office.

"There is truth and there are lies," Biden said in his inaugural address. "Each of us has a duty and responsibility, as citizens, as Americans, and especially as leaders - leaders who have pledged to honor our Constitution and protect our nation - to defend the truth and to defeat the lies."

But less than a year in, what's become clear is that Biden's "word" means virtually nothing, and that he lies with the same ease as his predecessor.

What did Biden know on Afghanistan?


Apart from his lies about raising taxes and that his $3.5 trillion spending plan "costs zero dollars," Biden was badly exposed this week regarding his decision on Afghanistan.

In August, ABC News' George Stephanopoulos, in an interview with Biden, asked, "So no one told - your military advisers did not tell you, 'No, we should just keep 2,500 troops'?"

Biden said: "No. No one said that to me that I can recall."

On Tuesday, during sworn congressional testimony, U.S. Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie confirmed that he "recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan."

Biden clearly lied in August, as his disastrous decision was unfolding before our eyes.

It is the commander in chief's right to make whatever military decision he wants to make. And I suppose it is his right to lie to Stephanopoulos about it. But on the topic of Afghanistan, in which Biden's decisions cost 13 American servicemembers their lives, to lie so effortlessly is even more disgusting.

A long series of lies


Biden only looked honest when posted up against Trump. He only looked reasonable to Democrats when compared to Bernie Sanders, for that matter. And we are finding out every day the consequences of judging someone by who they aren't rather than who they are.

Remember the stories about his son's laptop that Biden asserted was Russian disinformation? Politico, citing a new book, said recently that "some of the purported HUNTER BIDEN laptop material is genuine."

What about the southern border? Biden once brushed off our illegal immigration crisis as a seasonal influx, intimating that once the weather turned hot the migrant surge would abate. Nope.

Or how about Biden's claim that proposed voting laws in Georgia and Texas amounted to "Jim Crow in the 21st century"? These mainstream election security efforts are nothing like America's dark history of voter suppression, and the president knows it. A large majority of Americans (Black voters included) support voter identification and other measures that make it harder to cheat.

Biden claimed "America is Back" as a reassurance to allies and a warning to our adversaries. Then he turned around and greenlighted a long-sought Russian pipeline that infuriated our Ukrainian friends, before angering the French so badly that America's oldest ally pulled its ambassador from Washington.

Whether Biden is claiming that trillions of dollars in new spending will cost zero dollars, that he was arrested in South Africa or that "no serious economist" is worried about inflation, he has no problem stretching, bending or outright obliterating the truth.

When you point this out to Democrats, you get a similar refrain: But Trump lied all the time!

© provided Scott Jennings is a Republican adviser, CNN political contributor and partner at RunSwitch Public Relations. He can be reached at Scott@RunSwitchPR.com or on Twitter @ScottJenningsKY.

No doubt. But is that the standard you want to set for your guy? That he can lie just slightly less than Trump and be successful in your eyes?

Biden's low bar


Biden promised to "always level with you." He centered his campaign around restoring the "soul of the nation." He has violated - repeatedly - that pledge.

I'm continually amazed at how low Democrats are willing to set the bar for Biden by simply screaming "But Trump!" every time the new president does something they hated about the old one.

It seems, however, that the American people are catching on.

A tracking poll from YouGov says 46% of Americans say Biden is dishonest versus just 41% who say he is honest.

An Axios/Ipsos survey released Tuesday reported that "45% ... say they trust Biden a great deal or a fair amount to provide them with accurate information about the virus and pandemic, while 53% said they have little or no trust in him." In January, the scores were reversed, with Biden judged to be honest by a 58% to 42%.

This is what destroys presidencies - when people decide you are a liar, it is hard to regain that trust. And Biden has lied so frequently and so obviously that he's in a true political danger zone.

The next time the president tries to give you his word "as a Biden," just remember: You've been handed something as worthless as screen doors on a submarine.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    4 years ago

Gotta be a bummer for some of our more ardent Biden supporters.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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1.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    4 years ago

It comes down to 'my guy lies less than yours does, so it is okay' .. !

It is sad that 'now a days' the lies of 'our' elected officials are accepted, HELL even expected!  President Biden is not the man I was expecting when he took office.. he has been faced with crisis's that he has not handled well ..  HA!  Bush is looking like a better and better president every day!

Honestly I am not convinced that some of what is said by Biden is a lie .. I sincerely think he does not remember what his adviser tell him ... like Trump, Biden thinks he has all the answers, thus does not listen to [or remember] what the experts around him have to say..!

Peace

P.s.... I thought Harris was the worst choice possible for VP .. he had far better choices .. Val Demings would have been the better choice .. in my opinion

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    4 years ago

What lies?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @1.3    4 years ago

Whenever his lips were moving and sound came out, he was lying.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    4 years ago

President Biden is doing just fine despite all the desperate hit pieces regarding him.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2    4 years ago

As stated elsewhere, there wouldn't be "hit pieces" if he was doing just fine.

And I see comment 1 was spot on.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    4 years ago
... there wouldn't be "hit pieces" if he was doing just fine ...

That is not the case.   In our toxic, partisan environment a PotUS, et. al. will be attacked no matter what they do.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    4 years ago

It's the press doing it. Didn't start out that way from last November up until say July/August if people were paying attention. They tried like hell to keep it positive but the man and the administration have made it so much less possible to maintain. Has less to do with the toxic environment than the nature of the administration.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    4 years ago
That is not the case.

That is true.  Trump was far more successful in 4 years than Biden has been in 50 and the hit pieces keep on comming.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    4 years ago

That's so ass backwards and nothing but projection, deflection, and denial.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.5  Gazoo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    4 years ago

I agree. Trump did a lot of good things yet was constantly attacked by the left, hell, he’s no longer president and the fucking morons are still attacking him.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.5    4 years ago
he’s no longer president and the fucking morons are still attacking him.

Not a single one of them can prove a single claim they make

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.6    4 years ago
'Not a single one of them can prove a single claim they make'

So true!  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.5    4 years ago
... hell, he’s no longer president and the fucking morons are still attacking him.

Trump engaged in the most outrageous poor-loser behavior of any PotUS in our history.   His narcissism was on full display to the world as he engaged in a con-job to attempt to change the results of a legitimate election.   He abused the authority of his office to work tens of millions of people into a frenzy thinking that our election process was rigged and that Biden was an illegitimate PotUS.   He continues that even now.

Calling people who criticize Trump for his malignant narcissism and pathological lying "fucking morons" would be something I would expect from a Trump-blinded sycophant rather than a critical thinker.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.9  Gazoo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.8    4 years ago

You think that’s the only thing he gets criticized for? You think he never got criticized by these fucking morons before the 2020 election?  Pull your head out. They have and continue to criticize him for everything. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.9    4 years ago
You think that’s the only thing he gets criticized for?

No.   Why do you presume that?   I was very specific in my objection.

Don't give me your bullshit 'pull your head out' crap, it is your responsibility to read carefully.   

So, real simple, is someone a "fucking moron" if they criticize Trump for his Big Lie con job?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.11  Gazoo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    4 years ago

“Why do you presume that?”

because that is the only criticized item you brought up. It’s like you assumed i was talking post 2020 election, as if there was no pre 2020 election criticism.
That is the type of thinking i expect from a blinded partisan liberal who hears maddow or some other idiot say the word “sycophant” and decide to overuse it, not a critical thinker.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.12  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    4 years ago

How so?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.11    4 years ago
... because that is the only criticized item you brought up.

Then your presumption was beyond naive.   People do not write novels in posts.   A post will never enumerate every possibility.   One must use one's brain (common sense) when reading.

Ending your comment in Pee  Wee Herman style punctuates my point.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.14  Gazoo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.13    4 years ago

No, there is a plethora of criticisms against trump, some deserved, some not. You pick one and try to pin me on that one criticism. Ignoring the rest. And it would not take a novel to simply acknowledge them. That’s what i would expect from a partisan, not a critical thinker.

you throw out insults and get pissy when insulted back? Again, not what i would expect from a critical thinker.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.14    4 years ago
Ignoring the rest.

Once again, posts do not enumerate all possibilities.   One must use one's brain when reading.

The 800lb gorilla issue with Trump today is his perpetuation of his Big Lie which continues to showcase his malignant narcissism, pathological lying and abysmal character.    Labeling people who criticize Trump for his malignant narcissism and pathological lying "fucking morons" is both juvenile and wrong.  

And even for undeserved criticism (as you would see it), you chose to label those who criticize Trump "fucking morons".    Disagreeing with you on Trump does not make one a "fucking moron".  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.16  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    4 years ago
In our toxic, partisan environment

Agreed .. yet a large part of said toxicity is within the party of (D) - there is a significant divide.  The media runs with it... click bate to write about the partisan divide and party infighting ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.16    4 years ago
"Agreed .. yet a large part of said toxicity is within the party of (D)"
Complete nonsense.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.16    4 years ago

Much of the toxicity comes from pure partisanship wherein the two parties (and mostly here I am talking about the people more than the politicians) generate hatred against each other.   In result the divide increases and fuels more of the same.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.19  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.17    4 years ago

Really?  Please tell me your opinion on there being a bi-partisan infrastructure bill being held hostage in the House by members of the presidents own party ... his own party is threatening his domestic policy agenda / promises.

Seems toxic to me

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.19    4 years ago

Honestly, Colour, I like it when party members buck their leadership.   We need more of that.   The leaders in Congress have way too much power and that power comes from members kowtowing to same for campaign support and chairmanships.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.19    4 years ago

We disagree on toxic

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.22  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.18    4 years ago
(and mostly here I am talking about the people more than the politicians)

Okay .. I see where you are coming from.. 

In result the divide increases and fuels more of the same.

Agreed..!

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.23  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.17    4 years ago
Complete nonsense

Really?

So tell us how democrats are getting along so lovingly and not opposing each other at every turn.

Today's democratic party is a shitshow.......

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.24  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.20    4 years ago

I cannot argue with you TiG .. Yet, I want healthy debate and descent ..  blocking this infrastructure bill is wrong, the nation needs this.  I agree that the wish list is need as well ... yet compromise is needed, that is how a functional congress should work.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.25  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.21    4 years ago

Fair enough

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.26  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.1.23    4 years ago
So tell us how democrats are getting along so lovingly and not opposing each other at every turn.

I think that is healthy.

My greatest dream (which I will very likely never see) is for the D party to split into two parties and the R party to do likewise.    A four party system with largely equal parties each of which has a decent chance to get its members elected.   Real choice.   And, importantly, we break free of the impossible two party system where punishing one party for failure rewards the other (even if undeserved).   The electorate needs to get off this stupid see-saw and have some discrimination via political competition.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.25    4 years ago

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Yeah, sorry about the total nonsense remark.  

I have to remember to agree to disagree and not be such a bitch sometimes.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.30  TᵢG  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.24    4 years ago

I agree with you that the nation needs physical infrastructure.   But even this legislation has a bunch of pork in it and in general I do not have any significant confidence that these funds will realize the benefits we should expect.   Thus if it fails it is not as much of a loss as one would think.

Something has to happen to stop irresponsible politicians from this incessant spending (given so much of it is wasted by incompetence and diverted via corruption).    Instead of these monster bills we should be producing targeted legislation to accomplish something that is cohesive, well-defined and includes a specific process of oversight with specific named individuals of authority/responsibility and the means, at stages, to cease the initiative if it fails to deliver as expected.

That, I would submit, is the minimum that a responsible government would do.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.31  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.27    4 years ago

We all have our moments Tess .. I appreciate you recognizing that I am only offering my opinion based on what I see and read..

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.32  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.30    4 years ago
Instead of these monster bills we should be producing targeted legislation to accomplish something that is cohesive, well-defined and includes a specific process of oversight with specific named individuals of authority/responsibility and the means, at stages, to cease the initiative if it fails to deliver as expected.

Amen!

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.33  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.26    4 years ago
  A four party system with largely equal parties each of which has a decent chance to get its members elected. 

Four party seems like an impossible dream .. I am still fantasizing that a viable third party will come to fruition .. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.34  Colour Me Free  replied to    4 years ago

Hello razing ... sorry I have only been coming back to comments directed at me ..

Hope all is well with you..

Think we have had more than one conversation about a viable third party .. my fingers are still crossed!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.35  TᵢG  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.33    4 years ago
Four party seems like an impossible dream

Agreed.  Unfortunately.

But, in a sense, the two major parties both splitting might have a better chance than a third party growing strong enough to be viable.   We seem incapable of growing a viable third party in the USA.

And if only one party splits (e.g. the MAGAs and the balance of the R party) but the other party (D in this example) does not split, that would almost certainly give us the equivalent of a single-party system.   The Ds would rule and all the other parties would simply protest.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.37  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.35    4 years ago
But, in a sense, the two major parties both splitting might have a better chance than a third party growing strong enough to be viable. 

Yet, we run the risk of the extremes of both parties running the show .. which is somewhat what we are seeing now..  that is why I think a third party, say the 'dreaded bothsiders' finally coming together is what is needed or a moderate party .. socially liberal, fiscally conservative- in a sense ultimately 'we' are the ones that cement the vote for president..?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.38  TᵢG  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.37    4 years ago

Hey, Colour, sign me up for a viable third party.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.39  Colour Me Free  replied to    4 years ago

sorry for your loss .. it can be overwhelming ..

Still a huge fan of Pete, or at least someone like him; sincere, well-prepared and eloquent. It will take extraordinary leadership to either form a viable alternative or right the course. 

I am with you 100 ... !!!  I am hopeful that a younger individual will be the nominees of both parties in 2024 .. intelligent and articulate ....  If my girl Nikki Hailey does not seem viable  ... I would vote for Pete!

Not everything that is faced can be changed ... but nothing can be changed til it is faced   -James Baldwin

It spoke volumes to me .. to me, those are your words..!

Peace and Love you my friend!

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.40  Colour Me Free  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.38    4 years ago

Lets put our heads together and get the ball rolling .. razing will join  : )

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1.41  Veronica  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.39    4 years ago
I am hopeful that a younger individual will be the nominees of both parties in 2024 .. intelligent and articulate

That is what I am hoping for, since it does not look like we will be getting a viable third party.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.42  Colour Me Free  replied to  Veronica @2.1.41    4 years ago

Sadly it may take a third party to break the status quo  :(.......     otherwise DC will never have fresh eyes - it will continue to be the same old Dukes and Dutchess in congress and career politicians nominated and winning the presidency ...

Trump in my mind was a fluke .. had Biden run against H. in the 2016 primaries .. I do not think Trump would have been elected - or perhaps that is just my fantasy 

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1.43  Veronica  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.42    4 years ago
otherwise DC will never have fresh eyes -

I am tired of the old dogs remaining in control, no matter how much new blood we try to send - and it seems like the new blood gets tainted as soon as it arrives...

To me Trump was an aberration.  In my opinion he has such foulness to him.  I wish the DNC had chosen someone other than Hillary.  

Here's hoping for decent candidates in the future on both sides.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.45  Colour Me Free  replied to  Veronica @2.1.43    4 years ago
and it seems like the new blood gets tainted as soon as it arrives...

Agreed, very true... along with the moderates running for the exit...

Here's hoping for decent candidates in the future on both sides.

Agreed!

I am curious, do you see Vice President Harris as a good choice for a nominee? .. it seems she is the likely the heir apparent if Biden choices not to run in 2024... ?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.46  Colour Me Free  replied to  Kathleen @2.1.44    4 years ago

Hello B .. I am hanging in .. life just has a way of doing what it wants.. hope you and yours are well .. my baby turned 21 in August  : )

Here's hoping for decent candidates in the future on both sides.

People keep saying 'democracy' is at risk .. a third party is the only way to possibly get royalty out of the US government .. I am tired of the old guard

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1.47  Veronica  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.45    4 years ago
do you see Vice President Harris as a good choice for a nominee

I am currently doing more research on her.  I didn't know that much about her when she was named VP candidate.  I am trying to learn even more. The hard part is finding unbiased sources.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.48  Colour Me Free  replied to  Veronica @2.1.47    4 years ago
  I am trying to learn even more. The hard part is finding unbiased sources.

So true .. I try to read at least 3 sources, find the middle of said sources before formulating my opinion .. yet it is becoming more and more difficult to find the middle in America's media, seems as if it is all 'ish opinion based..

I was a NBC news watcher .. now it seems that Shepard Smith is the moderate on the air .. 

If you find a moderate media source .. send up a flare..!

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1.49  Veronica  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.48    4 years ago
If you find a moderate media source .. send up a flare..!

I will keep looking.

I really miss true news reporters.  The ones that told the facts and checked their sources and updated facts as they became known.  Ones that kept speculation to a minimum and didn't pass their speculation or opinions as fact.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.50  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.40    4 years ago

You can count me in. I voted 3rd party in the last 3 elections...

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.51  Colour Me Free  replied to  Veronica @2.1.49    4 years ago
I really miss true news reporters.  The ones that told the facts and checked their sources and updated facts as they became known. 

I do not think younger people have any concept of reporting from news anchors like Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather (among others) .. but to be fair, it is not only younger people getting their news off Facebook, Twitter and Reddit.. or from sources that do not actually research and write the stories they post, they pick up bits and pieces from several other sources and splice it together ... OOO they credit the sources .. pretty much counting on 'many / most' will not clicking on the original source link, let alone reading it...

I grew up with 2 channels and the newspaper... a time when the American media was revered world wide

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.52  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.50    4 years ago
The ones that told the facts and checked their sources and updated facts as they became known. 

I already had you on the top of my list  : )

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.53  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.14    4 years ago

Well said and right on.  

 
 
 
squiggy
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2.2  squiggy  replied to  Tessylo @2    4 years ago

Take a ride on the Wayback

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    4 years ago

No the comment at 1 was not spot on.

Another desperate hit piece from the alleged conservatives.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3    4 years ago

So USA Today is a conservative publication?

Don't think so cupcake.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    4 years ago
So USA Today is a conservative publication?

It was originally an opinion piece from the Louisville Courier Journal.

You seeded it, don't you know where it was from????

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    4 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.3  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    4 years ago

USA Today picked it up and put their reputation on it for publishing it. I don't care if it came off of a cocktail napkin at the Dew Drop Inn.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.3    4 years ago
I don't care if it came off of a cocktail napkin at the Dew Drop Inn.

A truer statement you have NEVER made.  As long as it fits your hyper-partisan narrative, you don't care where the story comes from.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.5  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.4    4 years ago

If USA Today picked it up and ran with it, your pointless point is moot.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    4 years ago
Notice how the source is attacked while the substance is ignored?

YUP!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.8  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    4 years ago

Always..............

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.4    4 years ago
As long as it fits your hyper-partisan narrative

Wow...pot meets kettle

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
3.1.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  bugsy @3.1.9    4 years ago

Says the kettle lol.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
3.1.11  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.3    4 years ago
USA Today picked it up and put their reputation on it for publishing it

No different than Yahoo .. everything Yahoo prints is picked up from other sources, yet it is a better source than USA Today?  Interesting... 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    4 years ago
Notice how the source is attacked while the substance is ignored?

Notice how you STILL are unable to read anything I post?  Seeder chose to seed an article which he not only did not know where it came from, he probably didn't even read to see that it was an opinion piece.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @3.1.9    4 years ago
Wow...pot meets kettle

Really?  Show me 1 single article that I have seeded that is partisan in the least.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.16  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.13    4 years ago

You couldn't be more fucking wrong in your posit.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.17  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.14    4 years ago

Kind of hard to do since you don't EVER seed any. [deleted]

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
3.1.18  Veronica  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    4 years ago

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Veronica
Professor Guide
3.1.19  Veronica  replied to  Veronica @3.1.18    4 years ago

Ridiculous - All I did was laugh - so now laughing is off topic.  Grow up JJ.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.20  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Veronica @3.1.19    4 years ago

It wasn't merely a laugh and you know it. It was a taunt due to the fact that Ozzwald was dissing me. My seed my call. Just like your buddies in their echo chambers.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
3.1.22  Veronica  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.20    4 years ago

No, it was a laugh.  Don't tell me that you know what I am thinking better than I do.  I was merely responding to something I found amusing - if you can't take it maybe you should not seed shit.

I don't know why you are taking out what happens to you in other places out on me - maybe if you weren't so biased in your moderation others wouldn't be either.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.20    4 years ago
Just like your buddies in their echo chambers.

Is that why you deleted her comment? That's bad form. Very bad form and apparently you aren't above petty forum games

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.24  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.23    4 years ago

I explained why I did it.

apparently you aren't above petty forum games

Pot meet kettle TG

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.25  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Veronica @3.1.22    4 years ago

Don't compare me to you know who. What was so funny about it other than it was directed at me.. I was born on a Saturday but it wasn't last Saturday.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.24    4 years ago

I'm not the pot or the kettle

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
3.1.27  Veronica  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.25    4 years ago
What was so funny about it other than it was directed at me

Frankly I didn't know who it was directed to when I posted my laughing - I am sorry what I find amusing upsets you so.  One person cannot explain what they find funny.  It's like to trying to describe yellow.

You have issues - called persecution complex.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.28  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.25    4 years ago

Oh, please. You know why your you-know-who does it...he does it to piss you off. You admitted that you deleted her comment out of retaliation.

You ain't no better than those you condemn

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.29  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.28    4 years ago

No, it wasn't retaliation. I said it was a taunt due to the fact it was directed at me. Apparently, according to her I was wrong. If I could bring it back I would.

Enough discussion about this if you please.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.29    4 years ago

impasse

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.31  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.28    4 years ago

So you agree that person sucks as a mod....

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.1.32  GregTx  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.28    4 years ago
Oh, please. You know why your you-know-who does it...he does it to piss you off.

That certainly doesn't seem like responsible moderation. Does it?

You ain't no better than those you condemn

Nor than those you endorse, right?...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.33  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.15    4 years ago
You addressed NOTHING IN the article, just whined about the source, as usual.

Are you that incapable of reading the english language?  As I wrote, and wrote again, I am not trying to address anything in the article, I don't care about its source, I am pointing out the hyper partisanship of the seeder and his eagerness to seed anything that fits his narrative.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.34  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.17    4 years ago
Kind of hard to do since you don't EVER seed any.

Correct.  Thank you for showing Bugsy that his pot/kettle claim is utter bullshit.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

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Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

Not that I'm enamoured with Biden, because I'm not, but I wonder how many of the "promises" he might have made were ones that the Republicans have done their damndest to PREVENT him from carrying out, so promises not kept were NOT his fault and it is a LIE to call them lies. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

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Ed-NavDoc
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10  Ed-NavDoc    4 years ago

Joe may be the president, but he has certainly never been honest!

 
 

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