Sandy Hook mom slams Trump for hosting NRA head on anniversary of shooting
The mother of one of the children killed in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School tore into President Trump for hosting National Rifle Association (NRA) president Wayne LaPierre at the White House on the fifth anniversary of the massacre.
Nicole Hockley, whose son Dylan Hockley was one of 20 children killed in the shooting, slammed both Trump and White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders for their actions on the anniversary of the shooting in a lengthy Facebook post .
Hockley first criticized Sanders for saying she didn’t think any action could have been taken to prevent the shooting.
“But while I can forgive Sanders for her lack of knowledge (though not her lack of compassion) I cannot say the same for President Trump,” Hockley wrote.
“Not only did he ignore the 5-year remembrance completely - not even a single tweet - he slapped us all in the face by having none other than NRA President Wayne LaPierre at his White House Christmas party that night. The appalling lack of humanity and decency has not gone unnoticed.”
Sanders confirmed to the New York Daily News that LaPierre was among the guests at the White House Christmas party on Dec. 14.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/365366-sandy-hook-mom-slams-trump-for-hosting-nra-head-on-5th
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What is wrong with having the NRA president to the WH?
Would you see anything wrong with having NWA come to the WH and perform Fuck the Police on the anniversary of the Dallas police shootings?
A lot of people had serious problems with Obama inviting Black Lives Matter to the WH and that was while the cop killings were still going on.
Really?.....So just how are they different?
But why? If going by some commenters here....if no one should have a problem with LaPierre coming to the WH why should someone have a problem with #BLM being invited...because it's not the same thing right?
The NRA promotes gun safety and rights of gun owners.
BLM promotes divisive lies and hate while doing nothing to stop out of control black on black crime.
Big difference.
Comedy! You see what you just did right? You basically put your perceived notions of one organization as a justification for the negativity you are giving it, just like this mother did with the NRA........but yet somehow it's different?!......s
Thanks for making my point!
I'm shocked that you asked such a question. The answers are obvious:
Is there an NRA song called "Shoot the Children? No, there isn't. So your analogy doesn't work.
Here's a fun fact: No organization in this country does more to teach gun safety to children than the NRA.
Good, so you also agree there isn't an issue with the NRA visiting the White House, now the only issue is the faulty analogy.
I have no problem with the NRA, as an organization, the mass proponents of the NRA do good work but, I do have a problem with the upper management and, the lobbyists of the NRA, they have done more to undermine safe gun laws and, the protection of the population from those with mental illness's being prevented from owning guns and, they have done enough to prevent laws that would make things like "bump stocks" illegal in the U.S. It's time to get something done that will prevent shootings like Las Vegas and, the church in Texas from happening again.
What is a safe gun law?
So Obama shouldn't have had a sit-down to try to moderate? Let me guess. You fascists would have persecuted him if he hadn't.
You're thinking of the old NRA back when I used to be a member. These days all their money is spent on pushing fear and propaganda in order to increase gun and ammo sales. I miss the days when all they were doing was teaching hunter safety classes. They still send me all of their mailings and it has become some pretty weird paranoid insanity.
Show me where I had a problem with LaPierre visiting the WH? But it's obvious you would have had a problem with if #BLM visited during the WH during the anniversary of the Dallas police shooting
You still haven't proven what is different! But let me put it another way what if Ice T was invited to the WH and performed "Cop Killer" on the anniversary of the Dallas police shooting!.....would you have a problem with that?
Once again.....Thanks for proving my point!
You don't think that is mother could make the same argument with the NRA being in the negative? You're trying to compare organizations trying to justify or biasness toward one group over another when it hasn't been about that, it's been about the sentiment and of the person who has the issue.......too bad that fact went over your head (doubtful it did, you just wanted to wail about #BLM)
You still haven't answered the question.......would you have a problem with it?
No, we just have prominent NRA members making statements like "My rights trump your dead!" So I think my analogy is right on point!
actually... nothing trumps our rights / period.
I didn't say you had a problem, my post implies the exact opposite, try reading it again.
But it's obvious you would have had a problem with if #BLM visited during the WH during the anniversary of the Dallas police shooting
No, I would think it would be obvious that I haven't an issue, after all I agreed with your position below
You basically put your perceived notions of one organization as a justification for the negativity you are giving it, just like this mother did with the NRA
As I'm in agreement with this it's illogical to think I'd have an issue with the BLM visit, I can only think you're confusing me with someone else.
You still haven't proven what is different!
This was your post " Would you see anything wrong with having NWA come to the WH and perform Fuck the Police on the anniversary of the Dallas police shootings?" note the highlighted section, as another poster mentioned, the issue isn't about the NRA performing a song called fuck Sandy Hook at the WH, so it's not like for like. As this had already been pointed out before my post, I feel the issue had already been proven.
But let me put it another way what if Ice T was invited to the WH and performed "Cop Killer" on the anniversary of the Dallas police shooting!.....would you have a problem with that?
Once again it's the same issue, it isn't like for like. An honest analogy would be the Ice T, or BLM visit without the add-ons.
BLM has never advocated violence against the police. But of course that won't stop rightwing race-baiters from lying about it. FarzNooz has been especially energetic in spreading this lie by claiming every black person who's made violent statements or even acts against the police were part of the BLM movement when none of them have been.
It is really left up to Trump's assistants to make certain of calendar events.
According to only whites who have problems with any black person standing up to the violence inflicted on them. Still that's a goddam lie on its face. BLM organizers have never advocated violence as part of their cause. If they're responsible for what any black person does then so are all the cops for even just one of them killing an innocent, unarmed black man:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/07/former-south-carolina-police-officer-who-shot-walter-scott-sentenced-to-20-years/?utm_term=.5f31cd0b1816
If you want to play it like that, we can happily obliges you.
What a load of NRA and rightwing racist crap. Where do you get this bullshit? It's obviously a cut-and-paste job.
BLM promotes equality in the justice system. For a long time there has been a huge disparity between how our justice system treats whites and blacks. It has nothing to do with black on black crime, that's not what they are addressing. Should the police, courts and prison system treat blacks differently because there is an epidemic of black on black violence in some communities? Of course not. They are supposed to treat all suspects the same regardless of race.
"Black Lives Matter" in no way means only black lives matter. Much like a sign proclaiming "Save the Bald Eagle" doesn't mean screw all other birds. BLM is just bringing attention to a disparity, a group that is under attack when other groups are not. It's simply saying we need to change the status quo regarding how black Americans are treated by police, there shouldn't be this high number of unarmed black men and women being murdered by police who almost always claim self defense, claiming they feared for their lives. If this number of white Americans were being killed, many with video evidence of unarmed people, admittedly at times not following shouted instructions, but in no way should that turn a police stop into an extra-judicial death sentence.
A police side arm is never meant to be used to keep a suspect from escaping, it is ONLY to be used in defense of that officers or the general publics life. Sadly we have many cases where unarmed black Americans run from police and are gunned down, many shot in the back for no other reason than the officers commands were not being followed to the letter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2017/04/07/another-survey-of-police-shootings-finds-wide-racial-disparities/?utm_term=.658291f09416
Really? So then why is Trump's justice department trying to prosecute protestors because rioters mixed in to their peaceful group and caused problems? Why are some commenters are happy that peoples right to peacefully assemble can be taken away just because a small group of people want to initiate violence?......
The liberals think the NRA is directly responsible for the shooting. Like they gave the shooter the weapons.
You're right. To think it would imply they had the ability to do so.
Utter BS. Most progressives and liberals just recognize that the NRA couldn't care less about those kids who were gunned down which is shown by their constant rejection of any reasonable discussion on new gun laws. No one is trying to take all guns away, some just recognize that universal background checks, sensible restrictions on magazine size and some military style weapons might reduce the casualties we have experienced in the last two decades of mass shootings just about every other week. Their refusal to even come to the table and have a discussion instead of just shouting rhetorical slogans proves they don't care about the victims, they only care about gun manufacturer profits and riling up their base to get more donations. After each new mass shooting it becomes "Too soon" to have the discussion, and then when it fades from most peoples memory a few weeks later it's "Too late" because there's little motivation as people get on with their lives.
you do know that Congress makes laws?
The Congress gets massive donations from the NRA and they won't even discuss implementing sensible gun legislation without the NRA weighting in on it which is why the NRA and the citizens they claim to represent should come to the table to discuss reasonable gun safety laws. By simply rejecting any discussion as an attack on the 2nd amendment they turn a deaf ear to the victims and show their callous disregard for those gunned down. They even sabotaged the reasonable discussion about bump stocks after the Vegas mass shooting, something that had bipartisan support before it was sunk by the NRA.
NRA is not holding a gun to anyone in Congress. Congress makes the laws not the NRA. Any influence on Congressional members is the fault of the member not any organization.
They are holding their approval rating to Congresses heads, and for any congressmen from Red States that's as good as a gun being held to the head of their reelection prospects.
And what role in law making does the NRA play?
Lets see how that works. Lets take a look at large city like Chicago. They have all these restrictions you are advocating. Yet they lead the country with THE highest murder rate. Now tell me again, how more legislation will help.
It's never "too soon" or "too late" to have a discussion about the problem. But many refuse to address the problem. And just a hint, it's not the metal inanimate object that needs a person to manipulate in order for it to work.
" most of the guns recovered in Chicago came from outside the state."
" Many of the guns recovered in Chicago — a fifth of them — were purchased in Indiana"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/07/where-the-guns-used-in-chicago-actually-came-from/?utm_term=.4bd77d47f2cd
Also, the Chicago violence has little to do with the mass shootings I was discussing. Only 18 States currently have any laws against 3rd party gun sales with zero background checks. A universal background check law could help prevent felons and the mentally unstable from purchasing guns on the unregulated secondary market. Tracking guns with a comprehensive database WILL NOT lead to all guns being taken away as some conservatives have suggested but could help lower murder rates like we see in Chicago. Bans on bump stocks and some military style assault weapons does not equate to taking all your guns away. People will always be able to get a gun if they really want to in America, all sensible gun laws do is help reduce the ease of getting one if you're a convicted felon or mentally unstable. It won't fix all gun violence, but it could help and doesn't hinder law abiding gun owners from owning guns for self defense.
From what I've read, the United Nations might be stepping in to "solve" Chicago's gun problems. It's obvious that Chicago's mayor isn't up to the job...
Excuses, excuses. The legislation is Chicago has FAILED. And will continue to FAIL.
You were discussing legislation. Hence, why I decided to give an example of what a FAILURE it is.
That's an understatement. And they will make excuses for it, as one person just did.
I foresee A LOT of problems with that.
Of course the long term objective is to overturn the 2nd Amendment and seize people's guns. Tell the truth for once.
Jeremy, I know being ignorant doesn't bother you, but I will post this for the benefit of others.
Chicago’s Murder Rate Is Rising, But It Isn’t Unprecedented
By Rob Arthur
Filed under Criminal Justice
Donald Trump sent a tweet last night decrying Chicago’s murder rate and threatening to “send in the Feds” unless it goes down.
Chicago’s murder rate is high, and it has risen significantly in the last two years. But the recent rate of killings is not unprecedented: During the mid-1990s, Chicago experienced a higher toll of murders than it did in 2016.
Nor, despite the attention it often gets from Trump and others, is Chicago uniquely dangerous among U.S. cities. According to preliminary data compiled by my colleague Jeff Asher , Chicago had the eighth-highest murder rate among big U.S. cities in 2016. Cities including St. Louis, Baltimore and Detroit have much higher rates, as do a host of other towns scattered throughout the United States.
During its 72 years, the UN has, for the most part, been an ineffectual entity that resides on extremely valuable NYC real estate.
Of Course it isn't .......but you just keep drinking the NRA Kool-Aid and telling yourself it is.
Ineffective is an understatement when it come to the UN.
And that is supposed to distract us from a murder rate in Chicago that dwarfs other COUNTRIES?
That's true. Some imbecile at CNN or MSNBC will always say the NRA has blood on its hands, and people just believe it even though the accusation is never supported.
I hear these words over and over again but nobody ever says what they are and how they will work.
Care to be one of the first?
Can't be enforced without universal registration. Registration historically leads to confiscation and yes it has happened in states that require registration.
What are sensible laws?
The California gun restraining order with due process enhancements is one.
Sentencing reform that targets those who use a firearm in a felony with long sentences instead of non violent offenders. One of the few times I applauded President Obama!
Target problem people and not the whole country.
For example?
Actually, they are.
It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
The Second Amendment must go: We ban lawn darts. It’s time to ban guns
Dear America: it’s time to grow up and ban guns
Repeal the Second Amendment
I haven't seen what I would consider a "sensible restriction" on magazine size. As someone who might someday have to defend himself or his family with a gun, I like the idea of likely not having to reload. In such a stressful situation, it would be one less thing to worry about.
I replied with a cogent answer citing the fact that one cities gun sale laws don't make a dent if all the surrounding States where 60% of the guns come from have lax laws with no restrictions or background checks on secondary market sales. Just because you don't think it relevant doesn't make it so. The fact is that universal background check legislation would impact those sales and the supposed "failure" of a single city that has tried only local measures.
So you are saying it's a failure of the government and law enforcement? I can agree to that.
Google is your friend. Look up just how often that the NRA has fought tooth and nail against any sort of ownership restriction.
How naïve can you be?! The NRA swings a big stick (gun) in the halls of congress. Huge lobby!
I go house to house and collect the guns of every far right wing fascist on NT? That would make a good start. I know where you live.
Sorry, you've obviously been listening to and swallowing Trumps lies about Chicago again. Google the facts on the deadliest cities. Chicago is definitely up there but then again there are others that one might not expect. Whether pushing skateboards, bikes or cars, it's fairly obvious that the vast majority of murders in the USofA are gang related.
The only administration I've ever been worried about trying to take my guns is the current one.
You can have my lawndarts when you can pry them from my cold impaled fingers!
Since you are still on the keyboard I know you haven't tried that yet.
It would only work with guns sold after the law went into effect. Prior to the laws effective date there is no way of knowing when a private sale happened. It is estimated there are over 300 million guns in civilian hands now so tell me how you will prove when the sale took place? Tell me how many criminals will do a background check? The fifth amendment won't allow prosecution of a criminal for not registering a gun. SCOTUS already ruled on that decades ago.
So tell me how a universal background check is going to do anything.
Target problem people and not the rest of the population.
I am glad they do. It's nice to see my contributions going to a good cause.
If you want to make the claim, you can offer the support. Show us the legislation the NRA has defeated that would have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting.
Not going to happen, because it doesn't exist.
And you've been drinking from the liberal kook-aid again. Especially if you think it started after Trump took office.
Trump has nothing to do with years of high numbers of black on black and gang related gun shootings/deaths with stolen weapons in Chicago. You might want to research why Chicago's Commissioner recently asked the UN for help. Perhaps he did because Chicago's mayor, Rahm Emanuel, has proven himself to be another Democrat mayor who isn't interested making Chicago safe.
Wayne is a great guy! I had several good conversations with him at the Grand American Trapshoot. My high school team finished second that year.
He deserves a raise for putting up with the radical leftist BS.
I read about it this morning.
There was nothing the NRA could have done to stop Adam Lanza, because the weapon(s) were legally registered and owned. He "stole" them from their legitimate owner.
Perhaps Nicole Hockley should focus on mourning her son through positive methods by creating a lasting memorial to him instead of politicizing her hatred of President Trump and the NRA on Facebook.
DAMN IT!!!!! You aren't supposed to bring up facts like that. It makes them look bad and destroys their narrative.
It always amazes me the left does nothing but criticize a group like the NRA that exists to protect the Constitution.
The NRA exists to promote gun manufacturers and gun sales.
Wow, you mean the Brady Campaign doesn't teach any gun safety courses?
Who knew ........
It's about time!
Obama should have invited LaPierre to the WH in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. Instead, the NRA was left out of the meetings even though there was some common ground concerning School Resource Officers and safety training programs.
Since the NRA had no connection to the shooting, this person is upset for no reason.
Perhaps Nicole Hockley should contact Rosemarie D'Alessandro to learn how to effectively seek justice and cope with the death of one's child. Ms. D'Alessandro's 7-year-old daughter, Joan, was raped, strangled, and murdered while delivering Girl Scout cookies in 1973.