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Today's atheists are bullies -- and they are doing their best to intimidate the rest of us into silence

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  358 comments

Today's atheists are bullies -- and they are doing their best to intimidate the rest of us into silence

There’s no polite way to say it. Atheists today are the most arrogant, ignorant and dangerous people on earth.

We’ve all seen how these pompous prigs get offended by the slightest bit of religious imagery in public and mortified if even a whisper of “Merry Christmas” escapes the lips of some well-meaning but naïve department store clerk during the “holiday season.”

To cite a few recent examples: Last December, the group American Atheists launched its annual billboard campaign with the slogan: “Just Skip Church -- It’s All Fake News.” In February, the American Humanist Association became furious when President Trump had the gall to mention Christianity and Jesus Christ without also mentioning atheists—at the National Prayer Breakfast! (How dare he!) And just this month, the Freedom From Religion Foundation raised holy hell because the Reverend Billy Graham was laid out in state in the Capitol Rotunda before his burial.

Yes, these atheists are loud, nasty, unapologetic and in-your-face.

But while their arrogance is annoying, it’s nothing compared to their ignorance. Atheists believe that the vast majority of human beings from all periods of time and all places on the Earth have been wrong about the thing most important to them. They basically dismiss this vast majority as being either moronic or profoundly naïve. What they don’t seem to know – or won’t admit – is that the greatest contributions to civilization have been made, not by atheists, but by believers.

Too many Christian authors have tried to be kind and amiable in an effort to demonstrate that believers don’t have to sink into the mud in order to defend the faith. That tact is very charitable, but unfortunately, it just doesn’t work with bullies.

Aristotle, Francis Bacon, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Isaac Newton all believed in God. Nobel-prize winner Wilhelm Rontgen, the discoverer of X-rays; Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry; William Keen, the pioneer of brain surgery; rocket scientist Wernher von Braun; and Ernest Walton, the first person to artificially split the atom—all believed in God.

And speaking of pioneers of science, who do you think coined the term “scientist” in the first place? William Whewell, an Anglican priest and theologian! He also came up with words “physicist,” “cathode”, “anode” and many other commonly used scientific terms. Essentially, the very language used by scientists today comes from the brain of a believer.

Even the Big Bang Theory itself – which atheists mistakenly think bolsters their arguments against God – was proposed by Fr. George Lemaitre, a Belgian astronomer and Roman Catholic priest! And the father of genetics—which provides the basis for the whole theory of evolution—was Gregor Mendel, an Augustinian monk!

Yes, the new atheists have an ignorance of history bordering on madness.

But are they really dangerous, too?

You bet they are. The truth is, the atheist position is incapable of supporting any coherent system of morality other than ruthless social Darwinism. That’s why it has caused more deaths, murders and bloodshed than any other belief system in the history of the world.

Atheists, of course, are always claiming hysterically that Christianity has been responsible for most of the world’s wars, but that’s just another example of atheistic ignorance. The main reasons for war have always been economic gain, territorial gain, civil and revolutionary conflicts. According to Philip Axelrod’s monumental “Encyclopedia of Wars,” only 6.98 percent or all wars from 8000 BC to present were religious in nature. If you subtract Islamic wars from the equation, only 3.2 percent of wars were due to specifically Christian causes. That means that over 96 percent of all the wars on this planet were due to worldly reasons.

Indeed, in the last 100 years alone, upwards of 360 million people were killed by governments—and close to half of those people were killed by atheist governments!

Yes, there is a profound and frightening connection between atheism and death. Atheist leaders like Stalin, Mao Zedong, Hideki To ̄jo ̄, Pol Pot and many others bear the blame for the overwhelming majority of deaths caused by war and mass murder in history. And while many atheists make the preposterous claim that Adolf Hitler was a Christian, his private diaries, first published in 1953 by Farrar, Straus and Young, reveal clearly that the Fuhrer was a rabid atheist: “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity,” Hitler stated, “was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew… Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of 
Christianity.” 


The facts are incontrovertible. Between the years 1900 and 2017, approximately 150 million people were killed by atheistic political regimes. 150 million!

And it makes perfect sense, doesn’t it? Atheists don’t believe in God, so they don’t believe in any transcendent, objective moral law. Nor do they believe that human beings are made in the image of God, and so they don’t believe humans possess infinite value and dignity. When you put these two beliefs together, you have a deadly recipe that makes killing “problematic” human beings quite easy and defensible.

One has only to look at the growing numbers of abortions, suicides, homicides, and cases of state-sponsored euthanasia, and infanticide, to see the atheist-death connection. As a thoroughly secular and functionally atheistic culture, we are fast becoming accustomed to “killing” our problems rather than dealing with them in a compassionate, loving, and sacrificial way.

So yes, the modern breed of atheist is arrogant, ignorant and dangerous. Too many books written in response to these pseudo-intellectual hatemongers have been altogether too nice. Too many Christian authors have tried to be kind and amiable in an effort to demonstrate that believers don’t have to sink into the mud in order to defend the faith. That tact is very charitable, but unfortunately, it just doesn’t work with bullies.

And that’s exactly what modern-day atheists are—bullies; bullies who are doing their best to intimidate the rest of us into silence.

Well, we can’t allow that to happen. As I say in my book, “Inside the Atheist Mind: Unmasking the Religion of Those Who Say There is No God,” there is only one way to deal with bullies, even in this politically correct world—and that is to stand up to them and fight them; to fight them in a bold, aggressive, and fearless way, and to fight them now.   http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/20/todays-atheists-are-bullies-and-are-doing-their-best-to-intimidate-rest-us-into-silence.html


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Randy
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2  Randy    8 years ago

Atheists don't care if you believe in your sky fairy and never did and never will. Just so you keep your myth out of the government and the public schools and our lives. You and other Christians are making up a so called war on yourselves every once in awhile as a way of making yourselves feel like martyrs and to make your dicks hard and if that gets your rocks off, go for it, but don't expect anyone to believe your bullshit.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Randy @2    8 years ago

A little crude, but accurate.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
2.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    8 years ago
Atheists are always running around trying to silence Christian voices around the country and yet globally they have caused for problems than any other belief system.

And Christians are always running around the country trying to deny certain rights to certain groups or try impose their religious BS on the rest of us. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    8 years ago

Thumpers that go thumping outside of their church or home should be prepared to deal with the exercise of free speech by others.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    8 years ago
Atheists are always running around trying to silence Christian voices around the country

Huh? I never have had an atheist on my porch telling me what to believe in, not once. But I do get bible babblers on my porch about once a week trying to force their cult on me. Silence their voices? If that's true the atheists are doing a terrible job of it. 

You have freedom of religion, that's all you are getting, deal with it or get the eff out of the country. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  devangelical @2.1.3    8 years ago
Thumpers that go thumping outside of their church or home should be prepared to deal with the exercise of free speech by others.

True, but they literally think that "freedom of religion" applies to THEIR religion, no one else's. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.2    8 years ago
And Christians are always running around the country trying to deny certain rights to certain groups or try impose their religious BS on the rest of us.

Yep. 

Of course it won't stand given that it's legal nation wide, per the SCOTUS. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    8 years ago
Atheists are always running around trying to silence Christian voices around the country and yet globally they have caused for problems than any other belief system.

Examples?  Anything to support even 1 of your claims?

I didn't think so.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.1.8  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.1    8 years ago
Atheists are always running around trying to silence Christian voices around the country and yet globally they have caused for problems than any other belief system.

If atheists were trying to silence you then how can you post your 5 threads a day on this forum?

Christians have the very same free speech rights in the US as everyone else. The fact that you cannot trample the rights of atheists doesn't mean that your rights or speech is being infringed.  Grow up and learn logic so you can outgrow your celestial pacifier. 

 
 
 
Randy
Sophomore Quiet
2.1.11  Randy  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.4    8 years ago
Huh? I never have had an atheist on my porch telling me what to believe in, not once.

Though I will have to admit that when a thumper comes to my door I have been tempted to grab my copy of Dawkins' "The God Delusion" and say something along the lines of "Have you heard the good news! There is no god! No Christ! No Heaven or Hell! Hallelujah!" Just to see what they'd say. Or maybe go door to door myself and do it! laughing dude

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.1.12  epistte  replied to  Randy @2.1.11    8 years ago

 Tell them to pray that you stop being an atheist and to stop by in 3 weeks to see if the prayer worked.

 
 
 
Randy
Sophomore Quiet
2.1.13  Randy  replied to  epistte @2.1.12    8 years ago

Laugh

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.14  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.10    8 years ago

It's every patriotic American's duty to confront any unconstitutional imposition of non-secular ideology and defend the establishment clause of the 1st amendment.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
2.1.16  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.15    8 years ago
They have the right to promote laws for the general welfare

But all laws cannot be based on religious ideology, per the separation of church and state.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.4    8 years ago
You have freedom of religion, that's all you are getting, deal with it

love it

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.1.18  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.17    8 years ago

no watt I luv

teaching atheist Sunday school

every Sunday,

especially hot fudge

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.19  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.15    8 years ago

Thumper politicians have a patriotic duty to keep their religious agendas at home while on the clock for Americans that have the mental ability to comprehend the Constitution.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.21  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.20    8 years ago

Thumpers were all created with an easy to reach storage place for their religious agendas.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.1.22  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.20    8 years ago
People don't have to leave their particular religious agendas anywhere.

ever here of separation of church and state ,

or are you divorced from such a reality ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.1.25  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.23    8 years ago
And nothing about separation prevents any politician from espousing their views

come again

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.1.27  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.26    8 years ago
What part don't you get?

The part where a pol uses his religious beliefs to push forth an agenda that contradicts the term separation of church and state.

Which part don't you get ?

I don't care what people believe about religion, I just don't want it forced on any.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1.30  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.29    8 years ago
No one is forcing anything to do with religion on you.

Then you'd agree that prayers on public property at public events when many people (or even one)  in the gathering are not willing to participate should not occur.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.32  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.24    8 years ago

I understand my right to be free from having to listen to any bible babble from public servants.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.34  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.29    8 years ago
No one is forcing anything to do with religion on you.

Tell that to any woman trying to get an abortion.

Tell that to children in some southern states that are being taught creationism along side evolution in Biology class.

Tell that to the tax payers in Kentucky who had some of their taxes go to the Noah's Ark center.

Tell that to same sex couples who have had to fight for years for the right to marry, and the states that are still trying to block that right.

Tell that to all the Presidential candidates (almost all Republican) who have openly stated that they are running because "God told them to".

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.1.35  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.15    8 years ago
They have the right to promote laws for the general welfare that would improve things as well as a patriotic duty to preserve the free excercise there of clause of the 1st amendment of all people and their beliefs or lack there of.

You can vote for Mickey Mouse it for want to. Consider some of the people who are Republicans, electing Minnie or Mickey Mouse would be preferable.

Legislating your morality only works for people that are a member of your church. Others have the very same right to live and believe as they choose but passing laws that endorse your religious beliefs infringe on their religious beliefs as well as those who are not a member of any religion. 

Your free exercise rights are not in any way inhibited by the strict separation of church and state.  The 1st Amendment says that I don't have to obey your religious commands.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2.1.37  charger 383  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.36    8 years ago
"But I wouldn't WANT people too dumb to use effective birth control to EVER reproduce."
I very much agree with you on that
 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.1.38  epistte  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.24    8 years ago
is it easier for you to insult and demean because you don't understand?

Because it is factual. These were written almost 2000 years ago.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. - Seneca (ca. 4
All religions are equally sublime to the ignorant, useful to the politician, and ridiculous to the philosopher. - Lucretius (94 BC - 49 BC)
Do you understand this quote?

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

― Epicurus
 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.39  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.36    8 years ago
Well, you don't know if God told them to run or not, and if He did tell them, what business is it of yours? If you don't like a  candidate, don't vote for them--problem (??) solved.

Moving the goalposts again??

We're talking about religion, NOT whether God exists.  In the above example, religion has just limited my choice on who I can vote for.  And stating it is a blatant attempt to curry favor with religious groups.

tax dollars didn't go to Noah's Ark in Kentucky. They got a tax BREAK, just like many businesses that have the promise for hundreds of jobs.

Semantics.  Either they are getting tax money or are being supported by tax money.

Noah’s Ark theme park getting $1.8 million state tax rebate after first year

people are opposed to abortion for more than just religious reasons, and everyone who is religious is not necessarily against abortion.

Really?  What argument can you provide, non-religious, that opposes ( NON-LATE TERM ) abortions, including in cases of rape or incest?

  • Pain?  Nope...science says no.
  • It's a human being?  Nope...many miscarriages are further along, no police investigations when that happens.
  • Laziness?  Why do you care, you are in no way affected by her choice.
  • Sex is only for procreation.  Says the religious person who has never had good sex.
But I wouldn't WANT people too dumb to use effective birth control to EVER reproduce.

That one statement shows just how sociopathic some people are.  You have absolutely no empathy for rape victims, people too poor to afford birth control after Republicans have driven out all Planned Parenthood clinics, or people whose birth control failed.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
2.1.41  mocowgirl  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.36    8 years ago
Well, you don't know if God told them to run or not,

Which god?  Zeus?  Apollo?  Odin?  

Why would a god care about elections, football games, award shows?  Shouldn't a "loving" god be tending to the millions of children it created that need its help to survive the poverty, and/or abusive, hostile environment that the "loving" god created for it to be born into?

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
2.1.43  mocowgirl  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.42    8 years ago
This isn’t any longer the environment that God created for us to be in.

 So you believe in the Garden of Eden and original sin and disbelieve in evolution?

Also, is Yahweh responsible for conception or is Yahweh just a bystander and doesn't know if a sperm is going to fertilize an egg?

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
2.1.44  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.42    8 years ago

For crying out loud.  The world is the same as it's always been - your god either doesn't exist, or doesn't give a rat's ass.  The world is a lot more moral than it was in biblical times, at least in many countries (not nearly enough, because fundie religion is still too dominant in too many places).  No more selling rape victims to their rapists.  Mo more women being owned by men, or slavery.  No more of the state killing people who you think blasphemed your particular interpretation of your god.  No more murdering people for their sexual orientation.  No more condemning women for having sex, while men get a free ride.  Oh wait .. those things are still happening, because of fundamentalist religion, and the lack of morality it breeds in its brainwashed followers.

I know, you'd love to see Christian Sharia Law so these "moral" practices you so miss could be legally returned to us, instead of being on their way out.   Remember the days of Henry VIII, and after his death. Papist, Protestant, Papist, Protestant .. so many people killed over stupid myths, forced to switch faiths at the drop of a crown.  Even if your god does exist, do you really think it wants its followers committing such atrocities in its name (and if you do think that, why would you worship it)?  Separation of church and state protects you as much as it protects me.   But your brain can't even accept those facts.  If you get the country you want, you might be the next one beheaded for not following the exact same interpretation of the bible as your new leader.  Be careful.  Be very, very careful what you wish for.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.1.45  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.42    8 years ago
Thus Christians consider ourselves to be apart from this world, committed to seeing the next one replace this one as we know it.

Nobody is keeping you here against your will. Go off and rapture yourselves if that is what you want but leave us out of your insane religious fantasies.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.46  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @2.1.45    8 years ago

It's also very dangerous thinking. If HA's Christians are separating themselves from this world, then they don't care what happens to it. Thus...we have increased pollution in our air and water which kills the planet and then ultimately us

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.47  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.40    8 years ago
YOU brought up God talking to politicians, not me.

I brought up religion with people claiming their god talked to them.

Leftists often seem to confuse people keeping more of their own money as some weird type of government giveaway of tax dollars. It isn't.

WOW, yet religious institution get to keep all of their money unlike everyone else, yet they still make use of tax funded infrastructure and projects.

Abortion. Why would it matter one iota at what point during pregnancy the mother receives the abortion?

Either the baby she is carrying is a human or it isn't human.

Wow, we agree.  AND up to the point that it could survive on its own, IT IS NOT HUMAN.  I notice that you are completely ignoring the point or who determines if and when it is a human being.  Ask a pro-life and they'll start quoting religious texts to you.

Why would we as a society WANT those people reproducing? By all means, I hope they DO get abortions. People who can't afford to have kids shouldn't be having them.

so·ci·o·path
ˈsōsēōˌpaTH
noun
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Randy @2    8 years ago
Atheists don't care

They clearly do, or they wouldn't buy billboard space trying to discourage people from celebrating Christmas.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
2.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago

My gawd.  Another right wing attack on XMAS.  Let it be.  Little kids want their presents.  Wish the conservatives would quit screwing with the darn holidays.  Merry Christmas.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2.2.2  charger 383  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago

Christmas is fun

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  bbl-1 @2.2.1    8 years ago
Another right wing attack on XMAS.

What right winger is attacking Christmas?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.2.5  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
They clearly do, or they wouldn't buy billboard space trying to discourage people from celebrating Christmas.

Atheists have free speech rights 365 days of the year. Thery can also tell you to think rationally instead of celebrating zombie Jesus next weekend.

  If you are threatened by a billboard then see a phychlogist because the problem is not with them but you.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2.2.6  charger 383  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.4    8 years ago

That's your big day and I also enjoy it.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
2.2.7  It Is ME  replied to  epistte @2.2.5    8 years ago
Thery can also tell you to think rationally

What IS "Rational" anyway.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.2.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
they wouldn't buy billboard space trying to discourage people from celebrating Christmas.

"They" aren't doing any such thing.  The billboard messages are a reminder that a large number of people do not celebrate Christmas and that those who do do not have the right to intrude their religious beliefs into every public space.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2.9  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.4    8 years ago
Christ mass should be a Holy day that everyone benefits from.  It’s an opportunity to share His story.

Except it's not.  If Jesus existed, the Bible clearly shows his birth in the May time frame not December. 

So Happy Saturnalia to everyone.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.4    8 years ago
It’s an opportunity to share His story.

more proselytizing from our resident proselytizer

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.2.11  epistte  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.9    8 years ago
So Happy Saturnalia to everyone.

A blessed Yule to you.

Christians stole Easter from the Pagans and didn't bother to change the name. Easter was traditionally the spring fertility festival and that is where eggs and rabbits come from. 

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.12  katrix  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.10    8 years ago

i guess I'm going to have to find a way to post Celestina's Elevenish Ways to Kill a Peep in here.  This would be the first Easter in years without that.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.2.13  epistte  replied to  katrix @2.2.12    8 years ago

I have a special avatar for holy week.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Oh goody, another long argument between Christians and Atheists on Newstalkers. What a novelty. 

Will anyone say anything original this time? 

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
4  luther28    8 years ago

Well it's today and I am an atheist and I've still not attempted to intimidate anyone.

In my little world, religion or lack of it falls into the folder marked personal. As most I have my own notions as to how the world around us works, which I fairly much keep to myself unless asked. What I ask in return is simple that others do the same.

Religion, politics and sexuality (all personal matters) have become somewhat of a team sport over the past forty years and the fan base seems to have an un-natural need to push their teams onto those of us that root for another.

By the by, there are many more religions on the face of the planet than Christianity have they no validity?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1  Ozzwald  replied to  luther28 @4    8 years ago
Well it's today and I am an atheist and I've still not attempted to intimidate anyone.

Of course you probably haven't had a Bible thumper ringing your doorbell yet today either. 

When they do ring my doorbell, invariably just when we sit down to eat, I allow my 140 pound Rottweiler to do all the intimidating for me.  Mormon's stopped coming by a few years ago after he pushed his head and shoulders out.  I still get  different sects coming by at times.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  luther28 @4    8 years ago
I've still not attempted to intimidate anyone.

To many Christians, especially in the heartland, your very existence is an attack on them. They cannot abide by anyone around them not validating their version of Christianity and any time you dismiss them they feel intimidated by your independence. They can't have their kids seeing high functioning intellectual atheists living well, being good people, showing empathy for others, achieving success, no, they can't stand for such things because it undermines their entire ideology. They have taught their children that atheists are selfish evil troglodytes who can't help but do evil things because they don't have a God threatening them with hellfire if they do. Atheists who don't conform to their invented description make them seem like liars and they just can't allow that. So the common lie they tell is how evil authoritarians like Mao, Lenin or Stalin murdered millions because they were atheists even though their evil actions had nothing to do with their religious views and everything to do with maintaining their own power and privilege over large populaces. Being a humanist with empathy for your fellow man is simply not allowed because it doesn't fit their preconceived depiction of atheists.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2    8 years ago
To many Christians, especially in the heartland, your very existence is an attack on them. They cannot abide by anyone around them not validating their version of Christianity and any time you dismiss them they feel intimidated by your independence.

Bingo, exactly right. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4.2.2  charger 383  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2    8 years ago

That sums it up very well

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
4.2.3  epistte  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.1    8 years ago
To many Christians, especially in the heartland, your very existence is an attack on them. They cannot abide by anyone around them not validating their version of Christianity and any time you dismiss them they feel intimidated by your independence.

You just described much of my extended families respone to me admitting that I wasn't part of their cult. Being a Humanist in a family of conservative Catholics makes me about as popular as The Honey Baked Ham store in Jereselum.

 
 
 
Randy
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4.2.4  Randy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2    8 years ago
They have taught their children that atheists are selfish evil troglodytes who can't help but do evil things because they don't have a God threatening them with hellfire if they do.

They also teach their children (and like to believe themselves) that atheists are living some sort of dark and hopeless life of misery because they are missing the light of the living Christ or some such nonsense, when that's just a crock. I have  a pretty good life and a good marriage and am happy most of the time. I'm not missing anything.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.2.5  charger 383  replied to  Randy @4.2.4    8 years ago

Dark,  only dark thing is my room when I sleep in on Sunday morning and I really enjoyed that before I retired.

 
 
 
Randy
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4.2.6  Randy  replied to  charger 383 @4.2.5    8 years ago

That's why my bedroom is painted dark grey with dark grey curtains. Even the ceiling is dark grey. I like to sleep in in the morning and it's also great for taking naps. I like a dark room when I sleep, even in the daytime. Hell even all of my bedroom furniture and bedding is dark grey and the floor is black tile. In the middle of a bright sunny day it's still nice and dim in there.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2    8 years ago

Thank-you. That sums it all up.

When you live in the South and you just move into a neighborhood the very first thing your new neighbors will ask is "Do you have a church home?"

I've had that same question put to me while I was in uniform. My LT asked me what church I went to. He knew it wasn't allowed, but he dared me to do anything about it

 
 
 
katrix
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4.2.9  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.8    8 years ago

When's the last time you've even been to the heartland?  I thought you lived in California, were on unemployment for quite some time while waiting for Trump to give you a job, and are still enjoying the coastal life?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.8    8 years ago

And I'm grateful to those "jack booted thugs" who are trying to save my small community from people such as you who would insist that my kids pray to Jesus every day or insist that I have to listen to a sermon when I go to a city council meeting

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  luther28 @4    8 years ago
Well it's today and I am an atheist and I've still not attempted to intimidate anyone.

Of course, it's the other way round but believers seem to need to invent a persecution complex to keep them going (and to justify their extreme reaction to atheists who speak up and out). 

 
 
 
katrix
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4.3.1  katrix  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.3    8 years ago

Their faith isn't actually all that strong, which is why they get outright angry and hateful when presented with logic.  Also, their morals apparently aren't that good - since they can't behave properly unless they have the threat of eternal punishment or the promise of eternal rewards, they can't possibly understand a truly moral person, who behaves simply because treating others well is the right thing to do.  Besides, with a get out of hell free card, there's no need for them to act morally - they think their faith means they can literally get away with rape and murder, but it's all OK because God will forgive them (and to hell, literally, with the victims).  What a pathetic attitude they have, but I guess it's a lot easier than simply being a good person.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5  MrFrost    8 years ago

This article is from fox news and it's an opinion piece......of crap.... Nuf said. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1  Gordy327  replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago
This article is from fox news and it's an opinion piece......of crap.... Nuf said.

That pretty much describes all of his articles.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago
Fox News is the most trusted name in news.

Um, nope. Not even close. 

Fox News - Right Biashttps://i0.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/right06.png?resize=300%2C33&ssl=1 300w" sizes="(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px"> RIGHT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.   See all Right Bias sources.

Factual Reporting: MIXED

Notes: Fox News Channel, also known as Fox News, is an American basic cable and satellite news television channel that is owned by the Fox Entertainment Group subsidiary of 21st Century Fox. Fox News Channel has been accused of biased reporting and promoting the Republican Party and has been deemed the least accurate cable news source according to   Politifact . (7/19/2016)

Source: 

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Gordy327
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5.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.1    8 years ago
Thank you for the compliment. Coming from you that comment made my day

That wasn't a compliment. But I'm not surprised you didn't get that. Perhaps it's selective hearing or wishful thinking on your part.

Fox News is the most trusted name in news.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [deep breath] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
 
 
Pedro
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5.1.5  Pedro  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago

Actually, The Associated Press is the most trusted source of news.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.1.6  lennylynx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago

Uh huh.  Sorry for going off-topic, HA, but I would like to hear your opinion, if you don't mind, about Trump congratulating Putin on Putin's election victory.  What do you think of that?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.4    8 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA [deep breath] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

chuckle

 
 
 
arkpdx
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5.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.3    8 years ago

According to a  Newsweek article from January 2018:

Fox News—far above of The New York Times, CNN, and the BBC—is the most objective source

 
 
 
bbl-1
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5.1.12  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago

Yeah, sure is.  FOX News is the best there ever was.  Will Hannity be canonized for sainthood?  Or at least knighted by The Queen?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.10    8 years ago
True and we have to remind them that Fox News is fair and balanced.

Just so you know? Fox Fake News dropped their, "fair and balanced" credo a few months ago because even they know they are NOT fair and balanced. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.10    8 years ago

“Ralph Peters is entitled to his opinion despite the fact that he's choosing to use it as a weapon in order to gain attention.

We are extremely proud of our top-rated prime time hosts and all of our opinion programing,” Fox News said in a statement.

Even Fox News calls it opinion....

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.9    8 years ago
when Obama did exactly the same thing in 2012

You mean before Russia deployed active measures to meddle in our elections? Before Putin illegally invaded Crimea? Before sanctions for said invasion were put in place? Before Putin was so open about assassinating dissidents and arresting political opponents? Before Putin deployed banned chemical weapons to murder a defector and his daughter on British soil? Yeah, Obama totally did the same thing as Trump... /s

 
 
 
epistte
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5.1.16  epistte  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.8    8 years ago
The New York Times, CNN, and the BBC—is the most objective source

You should try to tell the entire truth. Fox News is merely the most trusted news source among Trump supporters.

Fox News—far above of The New York Times , CNN, and the BBC—is the most objective source, according to 24 percent Americans surveyed for the study. Although that percentage is low, the other outlets scored much lower. Fox News' rating is largely due to the network’s dominant position among Republicans (60 percent of whom say it is objective) and their near complete distrust of other sources.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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5.1.17  Old Hermit  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.8    8 years ago

According to a  Newsweek article from January 2018:

Fox News —far above of  The New York Times , CNN, and the BBC— is the most objective source

FOX News is just the go to trough, where a small segment of the population is feed their daily swill of lies, red meat and bizarre conspiracy theories.

Fox News —far above of The New York Times, CNN, and the BBC—is the most objective source, according to 24 percent Americans surveyed for the study. Although that percentage is low, the other outlets scored much lower. Fox News' rating is largely due to the network’s dominant position among Republicans (60 percent of whom say it is objective) and their near complete distrust of other sources.

Fun fact, (coincidence only I'm sure:), when Nixon left office in 1974 his job approval rating stood at 24%.

Just think about that.  24% of the country thought Nixon was doing just fine as President the day he left in disgrace, (and 24% think Fox is a great place for their news). 

I wonder if Trumps job approval numbers on his last day will beat Nixon's?  I'm taking the under.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @5.1.16    8 years ago

Some people try to be so sneaky....but fail. They deserve our pity

 
 
 
epistte
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5.1.20  epistte  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.19    8 years ago
Some people try to be so sneaky....but fail. They deserve our pity

Google makes fact checking these claims almost embarrassingly easy. Do people sincerely think that they can make wild claims that they cannot defend and not be called out for their actions?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @5.1.20    8 years ago

Or omit part of the statement that has been made and not be found out?

 I laugh at their absurdity

 
 
 
katrix
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5.1.22  katrix  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.21    8 years ago

Just like Trump, they don't care if they get found out - they will believe their lies, and scoff at facts, no matter what proof there is for the facts.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.23  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago
Fox News is the most trusted name in news.

Do you seriously buy it when someone or something writes its own press? Like if Fox's slogan was "Fox News, never wrong about anything ever!" you would take it as being accurate? 

 
 
 
katrix
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5.1.26  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.25    8 years ago

Wouldn't a god be above the petty human emotions, such as needing to be worshipped, jealousy, all that?  Why would you worship something which threatens you with eternal torture and wants you to fear it?  It's like you worship a reality TV star.

If your god truly murdered thousands of innocent first born male humans and animals because it was pissed off at a pharaoh, rather than just smiting the pharaoh it was pissed off at .. and you think that's OK and worship that god  ... that's just monstrous.

But the real issue is the false prophet crap, which Jesus spoke very strongly against.  You think you know God's mind - while telling us its mind is beyond our comprehension.  Yet somehow you, personally, get it, and can speak for it, and can judge for it.  That's blasphemous ... your views on religion have nothing to do with what Jesus said or did, and are actually in opposition to it.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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5.1.27  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.25    8 years ago
I believe God is all present, all powerful, aware of everything at once at all times. I also believe that he offered each of his created beings including angels and humans free will to choose between loving and following Him or not. He wills that all will choose to be saved. That he knows people will not make that choice doesn’t mean He didn’t give them the opportunity to make a choice. We all make choices every day. God didn’t force any of them upon us.

God doesn't have to choose for any person - the choice is already predetermined since God already knows what they will choose, the person isn't given the freedom (or freewill) to choose an option that God wouldn't know (which is a necessary option for freewill to exist). Freewill necessitates the element of surprise or the unknown which isn't possible with an all-knowing God, correct ?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago
This article is from fox news and it's an opinion piece.

skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
lady in black
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6  lady in black    8 years ago

I was raised Catholic, I am non-practicing. 

The pedo priest scandal is hitting close to home.

The Buffalo Diocese just released the names of 42 priests that were accused pedos.  One of them was the Msgr. (he is deceased) of the grammar school I went to. He resigned the year I graduated (1976).  It breaks my heart to think that guys I knew from grammar school could the ones he abused.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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6.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  lady in black @6    8 years ago
I was raised Catholic, I am non-practicing.

I'm in the ever-growing "recovering Catholic" parish, myself.  Christianity, at least as malpracticed in this country,  in general is losing adherents at a pretty fast pace and that explains why those remaining are becoming even more extreme and less Christian by the day.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 years ago
Atheists today are the most arrogant, ignorant and dangerous people on earth.

Right behind Christians and Muslims.  When was the last "Crusade" the Atheists put on again?

Yes, these atheists are loud, nasty, unapologetic and in-your-face.

So the religious are upset Atheists are acting like them.  

Yes, the new atheists have an ignorance of history bordering on madness.

Coming from a group of people who want you to fall lockstep in with the oppressive bible with it's hundreds, if not thousands, of edits, changes and omissions.

The facts are incontrovertible. Between the years 1900 and 2017, approximately 150 million people were killed by atheistic political regimes. 150 million!

Is this supposed to distract everybody from the millions killed by Christians in that religions existence?

  • As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
  • Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
  • Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
  • Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer."
  • Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. 
  • Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. 
    According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
  • In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
  • In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. 
  • The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.

Oh and we can't leave out:

  • Catholic extermination camps
    Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

    In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
  • Catholic terror in Vietnam
    In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

    Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

    The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
    • "Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."

Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....

  • Rwanda Massacres
    In 1994 in the small african country of Rwanda in just a few months several hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a conflict of the Hutu and Tutsi ethnic groups.

For quite some time I heard only rumours about Catholic clergy actively involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of involvement were printed in Catholic church journals, before even anybody had openly accused members of the church.

Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany - a station not at all critical to Christianity - the following was stated:

"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally butchered facing the crucifix.

According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.

In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their victims alive..."

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    8 years ago
To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....

Something that most don't want to remember or hear about. In addition to the KIA, the tens of thousands of Americans that were KIA maimed for life. And the many more that died from Agent Orange long after the war ended. 

Don't forget that little genocide by the Christian Serb's against the Bosnian Muslims in the 1990's..Yup, in the town of Srebrenica 9,000 men, women and children were killed by the Christian Serb's...And that was just the one incident in a genocide that killed tens of thousands. 

I could keep going but hopefully some will see the light. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @7.1    8 years ago
Don't forget that little genocide by the Christian Serb's against the Bosnian Muslims in the 1990's..Yup, in the town of Srebrenica 9,000 men, women and children were killed by the Christian Serb's.

And in 1997, I was torn from my newborn daughter to go separate these "peaceful" religions.

I could keep going but hopefully some will see the light.

They won't.  All they see is that some other group is now acting as mean spirited and demanding as they are.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    8 years ago
They won't.  All they see is that some other group is now acting as mean spirited and demanding as they are.

Sadly you're probably correct.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @7.1.2    8 years ago

Thank-you, Kavika, and Jeremy.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Kavika @7.1    8 years ago

You can easily write a 1000 page books on religious genocides and massacres carried out by Christians, and if you include Muslims then you would have to release it in multiple parts. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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7.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    8 years ago

Yikes, Jer.  I can't believe I'm voting you up.  Did the earth stop spinning?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.2    8 years ago

We disagree politically, that's all.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.1    8 years ago

Kinda goes to what Randy was saying below, we come in all forms and in some cases (like you and I) the lack of any religious conviction is one of the very few things we actually have in common. 

 
 
 
katrix
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7.2.3  katrix  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.2.2    8 years ago

Jeremy and I get along quite well except for politics.  If we met face to face, I imagine we'd manage to talk about politics as well, without strangling each other.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  katrix @7.2.3    8 years ago

I'd buy Jeremy a beer just for having the guts to jump out of a perfectly good air plane

 
 
 
charger 383
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8  charger 383    8 years ago

I feel bullied by religion,  I will  put up with with a lot of their stuff just like I put up with some football fans but often they go too far.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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9  pat wilson    8 years ago

Seems kinda masochistic that you seed these ludicrous articles and subject yourself to the ensuing ridicule, over and over and over.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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9.1  Raven Wing   replied to  pat wilson @9    8 years ago

Ain't that the truth! Like the man he worships, Trump, he does not realize he is his own worst enemy, yet, tries to blame the problems that results from his own actions on everyone else.  

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.1  Skrekk  replied to  Raven Wing @9.1    8 years ago
Like the man he worships, Trump, he does not realize he is his own worst enemy, yet, tries to blame the problems that results from his own actions on everyone else.

He's probably just a Russian troll who is doing it on purpose, much like Trump.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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9.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  pat wilson @9    8 years ago
Seems kinda masochistic that you seed these ludicrous articles and subject yourself to the ensuing ridicule, over and over and over.

HA seems to have no ability to feel embarrassed or ashamed.  IOW, he's the perfection the extremist of any type or stripe.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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10  bbl-1    8 years ago

Religion has become a political means to sew discontent, fear, ignorance and division in societies.

Humankind would fare far better if it concentrated it's desires for the well being and life prosperity of the amphibians and their habitats.

Human overpopulation needs to be dealt with. 

Does religion bully?  It has never not bullied.  Jeremy Retired in NC #7 did very well.  This Vietnam Veteran thanks him.

 
 
 
charger 383
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10.1  charger 383  replied to  bbl-1 @10    8 years ago

                 "Human overpopulation needs to be dealt with."

and religion doesn't want anyone to even think about our biggest problem

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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10.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1.1    8 years ago

And many of the countries in that fix were overpopulated to begin with.

Will there be hard times?  Yes, because it will be difficult to find enough people willing and able to support and care for the elderly in those nations.  It may be difficult to fill necessary employment positions in both the public and private sectors, just because of a lack of warm bodies. It may well become an employees' market, with employers forced to offer higher wages and better benefits to attract talent that is more scarce than now.

But maybe that will force people to take a good, hard look at the idea of having a lot of kids whose future is uncertain, just because of somebody's interpretation of somebody else's supposed commands, or because that's what we've always done (never mind that couples used to have quite a few children to ensure that one male heir would survive to adulthood).  Uncontrolled population growth has its consequences, and one of them is difficulties when that growth reverses.  Family planning also allows for wise population planning.  When we overpopulate, we increase the risks of disease, famine, and war.

 
 
 
Randy
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11  Randy    8 years ago

So yes, the modern breed of atheist is arrogant, ignorant and dangerous.

This one line shows the ignorance of the author of the whole opinion. There is no "modern breed of atheist" because that implies that we can be grouped somehow or that we already are a group of some kind when nothing could be further from the truth. I mean it's not like atheists have meetings or a creed that we follow. We don't have atheist beach parties or picnics. Atheists have a wide variety of ideas of what an atheists is, so we do not have the collective power to be a modern breed because we have never been a breed of any kind of all ever. Atheists are as varied as there are people on the 405 during rush hour. There are people of every type and job and profession and most of all we have no idea who the other atheists are in the first place are because we really don't care to meet them on that level because that is their business and because they are doing their own thing or not doing anything at all and we don't want to disturb it. We are just us and such a wide variety of different type of people, with a wide variety of jobs and lives and attitudes that it is impossible to put us into any group or breed and anyone who thinks they can hasn't the slightest idea or bit of knowledge of the of the subject of atheism. We are everywhere.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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11.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Randy @11    8 years ago
We don't have atheist beach parties or picnics.

Have you not been getting the invites?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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11.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Randy @11    8 years ago

Honestly, the ONLY time I ever see atheists come together as atheists is when religious folks are overstepping their bounds. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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11.2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Thrawn 31 @11.2    8 years ago
Honestly, the ONLY time I ever see atheists come together as atheists is when religious folks are overstepping their bounds.

It's hard to imagine atheists grouping together other than for that purpose.  Meetings to discuss the non-existence of something aren't exactly high on the social calendar.  About their only attractive quality is how short they'd be so people could get to something important, like  drinking. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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11.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @11.2.1    8 years ago

If there isn't any booze I am not attending. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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13  TᵢG    8 years ago
So yes, the modern breed of atheist is arrogant, ignorant and dangerous.

Do you really think it is valuable to put forth categorical attacks?    Really heartland?   This is the hasty generalization fallacy - taking characteristics of a few and applying them to all.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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13.1  Raven Wing   replied to  TᵢG @13    8 years ago

Comment removed for skirting the CoC.

I have addressed all of the flags on this article. The fact is that many of the comments are off-topic, and half of those are posted by the member who seeded the article. If this keeps up, I will recommend to Perrie that the article be closed for good.   jwc2blue

 
 
 
Split Personality
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13.2  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @13    8 years ago

Interesting rebuttal from one of the USA's atheists which make up maybe 1.5% of the population (frequently confused by zealots with 'non-religious' people)

DeStefano closes the piece with his central thesis:

"… that’s exactly what modern-day atheists are — bullies; bullies who are doing their best to intimidate the rest of us into silence."

Who knew Christians were unable to talk? I thought churches and bookstores and podcasts and websites and damn near everyone in Congress were enough to get their message to a wider audience.

Good thing we have the guy who wrote a book and published an excerpt from it on FoxNews.com telling us how no one lets him speak .

His whole book is like this. It’s a lot of whining with no substance. It’s a lot of conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality. It’s a lot of name-calling and dog whistles.

Read more at

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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14  Thrawn 31    8 years ago

God, some Christians are such babies. Atheists being allowed to express our opinions and preventing you from violating the US Constitution is not bullying, grow the fuck up. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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15  Kavika     8 years ago

This train is bound for glory. I'm on my way to Canaan's Land. 

All you sinners and non sinners, be you Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Buddist, Hindu, Shinto, Jewish, Atheist or any other. Give me your hand brother and sister and I'll  lead you to the promised land. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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15.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Kavika @15    8 years ago
and I'll  lead you to the promised land.

I'll pass thanks. (smile)

But, I did watch that movie. Billy Graham reminded me a lot of Elmer Gantry and his cornies.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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15.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @15    8 years ago

Great movie!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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16  Split Personality    8 years ago

Locked until someone (else) can address the flagged items

or until XX returns to moderate his seed.

 
 

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