Only A Little More Than 1 in 3 Republicans (37%) Believe That The News Media Is An Important Part Of Democracy
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Quinnipiac University Poll. April 20-24, 2018. N=1,193 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.4. |
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"Which comes closer to your point of view: the news media is the enemy of the people, or the news media is an important part of democracy?" |
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| Enemy of the people |
Important part of democracy |
Neither (vol.) |
Unsure/ No answer |
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| % | % | % | % | |||
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ALL |
22 | 66 | 4 | 8 | ||
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Republicans |
51 | 37 | 4 | 8 | ||
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Democrats |
3 | 91 | 2 | 4 | ||
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Independents |
16 | 70 | 5 | 9 | ||
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This is what Fox News and Donald Trump have done to a gullible group of people.
Nope. This is what the MSM has done to the people, gullible or not.
Trump has repeatedly lied about the media, in order to get his dimwit followers to disbelieve the news. That is his evil doing, not the medias.
Suck it up. Be a man. You don't want us to become a Third World Country, do you?
If you made a list of the top 500 mainstream media sources , ranked from the most to least accurate, number 500 would still be more honest than Donald Trump. This is what you can never understand, let alone admit.
I have eyes and ears and a fucking brain.
Don't forget how the MSM joked about it when Trump said Comey told him three times he wasn't under investigation?
CNN issues correction after Comey statement contradicts reporting
CNN has corrected a Tuesday report after the release of former FBI Director James Comey's opening statement for his Thursday testimony in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee contradicted the report's sources.
The CNN report said Comey was expected to dispute President Trump 's claims that Comey said he was not under investigation on multiple occasions.
The report, titled “Comey expected to refute Trump," was based on unnamed sources and said Comey's conversations with the president "were much more nuanced," and that Trump drew the wrong conclusion.
The story was compiled by four CNN journalists, including Gloria Borger, Eric Lichtblau, Jake Tapper and Brian Rokus.
What we miss out on this here is all the little jokes that went on daily about the accusation on the TV. If you think something may be important on YouTube or any other MSM source, you'd better download it, not just the link, but the video or article or you may just find it no longer exists
What about Trump saying the Obama Administration was wiretapping his phones. The MSM had a field day with that. Comey and all the rest of those lowlife liars got in on it by saying it wasn't true. Trump knew what he was talking about and it turned out to be true. Trump left an opening that the corrupt MSM and the corrupt Obama Administration used to make jokes about it, the word wiretapping, but the spying on Trump's campaign was true and so was the fact that hundreds more Americans were being spied on and unmasked the last year and right after the election by the scumbags who profess they don't want a Third World country.
There's plenty more examples, but it doesn't matter, the Trump supporters are not as gullible as the haters would like to think they are.
Actually I believe he does. It would not bother him at all if we became just like Cuba or Venezuela is today.
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Suck it up man. We put up with the Maladministration for 8 years and fortunately we didn't have to put up with it for another 4 years. You'll live through it.
Some of these people would have been thrilled to have Obama as President for as long as he wanted to be President and others would have loved to have Bernie Sanders with his 100% employment plan as President. I bet if you ran a poll before the election, quite a few of the people who are saying we're the gullible ones would have voted to have Obama given the Presidency until he died in office like Castro.
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How exactly would center-right capitalist Hillary Clinton make the US a 3rd world country? Where do you find this nonsense?
So he's right in line with every other politician in the world. But for some reason, this ONE lying politician has destroyed your world.
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Speaking with experience as the Editor-in-Chief of my university newspaper for two years, and at that time (1957-1958) considering The Christian Science Monitor to be our role model not only for its design but due to its multiple awards for being (unfortunately only then) non-biased and objective:
What a laughable but most likely accurate indication of the liberal left-wing bias of the media.
Is it any wonder that the statistics are what they are?
Buzz, in this poll only Republicans say the media is not important to democracy. Democrats and INDEPENDENTS overwhelmingly say it is.
Applying a little logic to the situation, it would seem the Republicans (conservatives) are the ones out of step.
Leave it to you to misunderstand and blame liberals.
Your obsession with pc is turning you around in circles.
I didn't misunderstand or blame liberals for anything. I blame the media for its bias.
Since you want to talk about obsessions, being obsessed about overzealous PC and the problems it causes, is preferable and perhaps more productive in my opinion than being obsessed about Trump. Pot-Kettle.
Real news is vitally important to freedom.
Unfortunately, what we have thrown at us today is "For profit news" which is mainly biased garbage used for pushing agendas for both ideologies.
Today a person needs to watch a variety of "news" sources and scrutinize each one for reality to be properly informed.
Already it can be quite an undertaking to get to the reality of a story and I dont see this changing for the better any time soon.
Someday many people will probably look back and regret what they did to our nation by dividing us all up for their own power and profit.
United we stood, devided we will fall, sooner or later.
If we can't unite against a total piece of shit like Trump, I don't see how we can unite, Steve.
Small world! I used to say the same thing about Clinton and Obama!
The politicians nor the news outlets want the American citizens to unite. They both gain power and profit from our division.
Or secretly giving the biggest supporter of terrorism over a billion dollars in cash, only to be discovered several months later after the fact.
He got the prize for not being a war criminal like the previous president was, and although he didn't really deserve it, he does deserve a lot of credit for the strong economy, more credit than Trump, that's for sure. Obama was handed the worst crash since '29 and passed off a strong economy to Trump, who hasn't fucked it up...yet. That's the actual reality of the situation. Now, back to your alternative, right wing reality buddy!
Divide and conquer ! Is working for both politicians and the media. Unfortunately its weakening this republic. (United we stood, divided we will fall.) It happens elsewhere, it could happen here. Less we forget we are all Americans ... first.
Personally I sure dont see this as a one sided thing. our republican president sure benefits from this as well and I sure dont see him doing much to correct it.
Why persuade everyone your way is right when ya dont have to ?
They don't. Neither side does anymore. compromise is next to dead and fighting and winning at any cost is the new norm.
Some of us are asking is the cost worth it ?
I think time will tell, but I question it.
Personally I liked it when the 537 people oversaw our government and did compromise and even had responsible solutions from time to time.
Now we seemingly have one person in charge of "solutions" We'll see how this works out in the long run as well.
I say "Good Luck America !"
Exactly!
Mainstream media reports the truth. Unfortunately for our right wing dingbat friends, the truth has a strong liberal bias.
which so-called truth would that be?
(the truth once was that hillary would be president)
a right brain left brain thing, both can be correct and everybody is wrong at the same time.
I respectfully disagree with this blanket statement.
I've known many a emotional conservative person. I've also known many thoughtful fact based liberal people.
IMO our conservatism/liberalism tendencies come from a variety of elements during our maturity, including our environment, standard of living, employment, location and family believes.
In short I've seen people of both ideologies both ways. Emotionally driven and fact driven.
I think I'm some of both. I think and consider my feelings as well. Probably most of us do.
in essence, you said the same thing I did you only took longer to do it.
QUOTE from my post above.
"a right brain left brain thing, both can be correct and everybody is wrong at the same time."
(the difference between conservatives and liberals is which side of the spectrum rules the other.)
for example
"I've known many a emotional conservative person. I've also known many thoughtful fact based liberal people."
This seems pretty short to me.
did they vote for hillary?
try not to confuse being emotional with always having an emotional response.
there is a difference between the two, we all have emotions, but not all of us are ruled 24/7 by those emotions.
again I ask.. did your "conservative emotional friends vote for hillary? or bernie?
my bet is they voted as conservatives.
LOL... If you knew me and you knew the most conservative friend I have, you would very quickly see which one of us is more ruled by their emotions.
Hint, It sure isn't me, (in fact he calls me sometimes to help him settle down.)
truth !
and yep he voted for trump.
in austin during the antifa bs my emotions said to just bust everyone of them in the face. did I do that? nope. did I need to be calmed down? nope.
a tactical unemotional response:
I waited until their emotions forced them to touch me... then I defended myself / put them under my boot and stole their left shoe off their feet. those shoes are still hanging in the tree in my backyard. ( they make me smile
the left will always lash out from emotion... is predictable.
Good for you. But, most mature people can control their emotions without an outside source. I guess this shows my very conservative friend needs to do some growing up himself.
I'll let him know....lol
(discreetly...)
at some point you may be forced to just rip the bandaid off.. ha
Cheers
I doubt if I do, We have been friends for over 20 years. His ideology has not changed neither has mine. He's very conservative where I'm more independent. When he needs someone to help steady him I'll still be here.
One thing I've learned about the typical person with many conservative tendencies is , They dont tend to change much. So I dont see his occasional need for a calm steady voice of reason changing anytime soon.
As a friend I try to help him, I'm sure I have or he probably wouldn't still be calling me when his life is a mess from one reason or another.
My life is far from prefect, But at least I'm stable and willing to help others.
I have some more.
People who demand "proof" that Donald Trump has lied should be locked up in rubber rooms.
Hey, we all know Donald Trump lies because the Washington Post is keeping a diary of it. Kind of like Comey taking notes on Trump and not on Zero.
No link to a source of the survey. But then again, it's not like polls are accurate in the first place.
Such polls are stupid in the first place. Who gives a crap if we don't believe the Main Stream News lies and twisted reporting?
Good point. Much of what they "report" is wrong, or late anyway.
a poll that shows people currently do not trust the media
becomes...
5th grade journalism at best.
What would a poll of democrats say about Fox News?
the media overwhelmingly echoes democratic talking points, Republicans by and large don't like billion dollar corporations serving as pr firms for the democrats. Not a surprise many doent think these billion dollar propaganda peddlers are important to democracy.
I hope you weren’t expecting a rational, thoughtful discussion from this seed. NT is the last place on earth to find that. This topic in this forum is just CoC violation bait.
Like the proverbial train wreck, you can't look away. TPTB can't say they weren't warned what was coming.
The poll is rather straight forward. Is the media the enemy of the people or an important part of democracy?
On this seed, anyway, Newstalkers chose to say that the media is not needed to protect democracy. I don't know whether Trump is the originator or beneficiary of this bile. Some of both I expect. But I do have to say that the responses here are among the most ignorant I have ever had to any of my seeds. I also thought "liberals" would have more to say, but maybe yesterday wasn't a good day to find liberals on NT.
NONE of the "independents" here defended the media, although in the poll independents are greatly on the side of the press. The independents on NT "don't want to get involved."
bullschit.
where is the choice of?
your selling what is known as a false choice. not buying it.
I wouldn't call it lying by the media, I would say that the source was wrong and, the media is correcting the error with the retraction, it has happened in the past and, the media always either prints a retraction or, retracts on air. When was the last time you saw FAUX Noise put a retraction up for things they have said on air that was wrong or, Breitbart or, Rush Limbaugh, they've been wrong many times and, yet nothing from them, except they try to double down on the lie told.
You are in favor then of Fox News closing down completely.
It's called "Pot Stirring', because no matter what source you provide, where form, how legitimate, they can then call it 'fake news', leftist, progressive, right wing, or find some other reason to try and deny it to fit their own personal agenda, or just for kicks and giggles like little 3 y/o's. They do it all the time. I don't waste my time playing their game. I will post my source when I find a new article I wish to post, and if that isn't good enough, too bad. Let them do their own homework if they want to find out bad enough.
My opinion.
The problem with FAUX Noise is it would have to spend the next two years on air 24/7 retracting story's to equal what the other news organizations have retracted and, I don't mean in volume, I mean to become known as somewhat truthful, they have spent their entire time on air from the first day they aired telling lies and, half truths so, three instances when they came out and, said they had the story wrong won't even cover what they have gotten wrong over the years. Not my opinion, it is fact.
No, my reason for not liking FAUX Noise is that they tell lies on air and, then don't even try to admit they lied, in fact they double down on the lies they tell.
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Fox News Channel, also known as Fox News, is an American basic cable and satellite news television channel that is owned by the Fox Entertainment Group subsidiary of 21st Century Fox. Fox News Channel has been accused of biased reporting and promoting the Republican Party and has been deemed the least accurate cable news source according to Politifact. (7/19/2016)
You can check out the lies told by FAUX Noise here.
It is difficult to the point of being impossible to accurately use ratings as an indication of the individual number of people who watch Fox News, and to a lesser extent, the other networks you mention.
The 2.5 million, or whatever it is , for Fox News is for one show. Let's say for the week Hannity averages 2.5 million. NBC Nightly news averages 7 million or whatever. But NBC nightly news is one half hour a day while Fox News channel has about 18 hours a day of original shows. While they all dont get 2.5 million, in total for the 18 hours it comes to much much more than 2.5 or even 7.5 million.
However, we would then have to consider how many people watch more than one Fox show and one Fox hour per day, and certainly this is a lot of people as well, so that calculation would lower the total number of individual viewers. In the end we just don't know.
I am an independent and I am on the side of the press. I believe in the 4th estate, hence NT.
The issue with the press, is that there has been so many mistakes, both partisan and in a rush to beat each other in our never ending 24/7 news, that we have lost our some of our trust in the press. But to say that it is not important is ridiculous. On the other hand, the press has a lot to do to repair it's reputation with the people. We need more investigative reporting and less spin. Investigative reporting is a dying art and that is where the truth is found. Otherwise, everyone is reporting the same thing, with their spin on it.. and that is where we are now.
I do realize that there are those who want to discredit the press all together. I think that serves a specific purpose for a specific agenda and I actually think that is a very dangerous thing. The state of the press is not great, but it is necessary because there is still some truth out there, for those who vet what they read.
The issue really is that people tend not to vet, and only read what confirms their POV, which is nothing more than confirmation bias. That is a human flaw.. and really can't be stopped.
I would say it is because there is such a low bar on putting out a negative story on Donald Trump. The msm hates Trump and wants to remove him from office, so desperately, that they have debased themselves in the process
Nonsense. If anything, the press has been far too easy on Trump, especially during the campaign.
When you say the MSM are you also including Fox? Because Fox has some issues with him, and they support him. See, I do watch fox as well as other media outlets. I am curious about how they are reporting.
Maybe as I said, when people don't get their confirmation bias, it is easier to cry fake news.
There are many who will claim media bias and fake news merely to keep the pot stirred. Regardless how many sources one provides, or from where, they will always find fault with it and deny it to fit their own personal agenda or political beliefs, or....merely to stir the pot. Childish at best, but, they think it makes them look astute and all knowing.
The mainstream media reports the truth as best they can, and always strive to correct their mistakes. The truth is that the Republican party is no longer a viable choice. They have devolved into nothing more than a gang of corporate thugs. If there is any 'spin' going on with the 'liberal' media, it's that they desperately try to portray the Republican party as viable; eagerly trumpeting any little thing they do that may be construed as trying to do something good for the country. It's slim pickings.
We don't have any serious right/left debate anymore, we don't have two parties trying to do good things for the country. The Republicans are nothing but corporate attack dogs, they aren't trying to do good things for us. They are trying to enslave us to their corporate masters. If the Republicans had their way, most of the country would be making 50 cents/hr. and living in cardboard boxes under bridges.
Today it's right vs. wrong, and if you can't see which is which by now, you never will. Donald fucking Trump is our president. Covfefe.