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Ivanka Trump photo with son sparks backlash over separations at border

  

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Via:  galen-marvin-ross  •  8 years ago  •  125 comments

Ivanka Trump photo with son sparks backlash over separations at border

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An online backlash greeted Ivanka Trump on Sunday, after the president’s daughter tweeted a picture of herself cuddling her two-year-old son at the same time widespread news reports detailed children being taken from their mothers by US border agents.
Related: US to stiffen border rules and separate children from parents
Trump’s tweet was captioned “My <3! #SundayMorning

The comedian Patton Oswalt was one of thousands to draw a connection between the tweet and the separation of families at the border under policies pursued by the Trump administration.
“Isn’t it the just the best to snuggle your little one – knowing exactly where they are, safe in your arms?” Oswalt wrote. “It’s the best. The BEST. Right, Ivanka? Right?”

Outraged reaction to Trump’s tweet included responses by many mothers who asked the first daughter to contemplate being forcibly separated from her child.
“You’re a mother of 3,” wrote a user with the Twitter handle @litbrit. “So am I. Imagine someone in an ICE uniform takes away your precious baby, and you never get to see him or her ever again. This is what’s going on, thanks to your Dad’s policy. DO SOMETHING.”
Brian Klaas, a fellow at the London School of Economics and former Democratic strategist, wrote: “This is so unbelievably tone deaf, given that public outrage is growing over young kids being forcibly ripped from the arms of their parents at the border – a barbaric policy that Ivanka Trump is complicit in supporting.”

Previously, families suspected of crossing the border illegally were allowed to stay together until their cases were resolved. In early May, attorney general Jeff Sessions announced a “zero tolerance” policy on illegal immigration.
A Department of Homeland Security official told Reuters: “Those apprehended will be sent directly to federal court under the custody of the US Marshals Service, and their children will be transferred to the custody of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement.”
On Friday Laura St John of the Florence Project, an Arizona nonprofit that provides legal services to migrant families, told Chris Hayes of MSNBC the policy had been in effect for months, directing border agents to separate children as young as one year old from their parents.
In April, a New York Times report concluded that “more than 700 children have been taken from adults claiming to be their parents since October, including more than 100 children under the age of four”. The Times also reported that the Department of Health and Human services had lost track of almost 1,500 migrant children placed with US sponsors after showing up at the border alone.
In a tweet on Saturday, Donald Trump, who as president guides the application of immigration laws, blamed Democrats for the separation policy.
“Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the US,” he wrote.
The reasoning by which the president held Democrats responsible for a policy announced and followed by his own administration was unclear.


Ok, I can understand why people would be upset, I'm upset about the policy of separating families but, it is Donald Trumps policy and, Jeff Sessions policy, not Ivanka Trumps policy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ivanka-trump-photo-with-son-sparks-backlash-over-separations-at-border/ar-AAxTKa8?ocid=spartandhp


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Galen Marvin Ross
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1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross    8 years ago
“Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the US,” he wrote.

A tone deaf president for sure. What folks don't get about these people is that they are "American Royalty" it isn't right but, they are "above the common folk" and, don't understand what it is they are doing that is so wrong, even if you tell them what it is, they still wouldn't understand it.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1    8 years ago
What folks don't get about these people is that they are "American Royalty" it isn't right but, they are "above the common folk" and, don't understand what it is they are doing that is so wrong,

Omg the left with this issue is worse than the right claiming Michael Obama's, All this for a damned fag lip reading comments.

Did you see the Fake occupy democrats picture of how President Trump was treating illegal immigrants? It was taken in 2015.

I can't believe all the simple minded people that follow stuff like them and other extreme pages.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1    8 years ago

that's flag....

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

Hard to believe. Anybody in the President's family probably can't even buy a soda without the media twisting it into an insult. I don't know for the life of me why anyone would even THINK about wanting to be the POTUS. Just wait. Baron might get caught holding a girl's hand and there will be banner headlines: "Young Trump Molests Innocent Underage Girls - Just Like His Father"

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    8 years ago
Baron might get caught holding a girl's hand and there will be banner headlines: "Young Trump Molests Innocent Underage Girls - Just Like His Father"

I doubt this would happen since it hasn't happened to his older boys. Yet.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2  cjcold  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    8 years ago

And my first thought was that I liked her sunglasses. Anybody know what they are?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.2.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  cjcold @2.2    8 years ago
Anybody know what they are?

Expensive?

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.2.1    8 years ago

Likely.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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2.3  Spikegary  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    8 years ago

It's Trumpmentia.  No matter what, no matter when, ti will be twisted into something insulting.  Thta's the way of the left.  Formerly intelligent people cannot see past their bias.  It's foolish at best.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.3.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Spikegary @2.3    8 years ago
No matter what, no matter when, ti will be twisted into something insulting.

Oh, please, it's not like you guys didn't do the same thing with the Obama's and, the Clinton's so, get off of your high horse.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.3.2  cjcold  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.3.1    8 years ago

At least most of us are not cixelsyd

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 years ago
“Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the US,” he wrote.

Many of the articles I've read on this have been dated 2014, 2015.  I guess it was OK under the last administration.  I guess this is just like the monuments.  It only become offensive because of Trump.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    8 years ago
Many of the articles I've read on this have been dated 2014, 2015.

It is only the Trump administration who have decided to separate family's, other administrations took the option of  keeping family's together until their case was decided.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1    8 years ago

Well, surely the parents knew the possibility of this happening, so coming here illegally is sorta irresponsible on their part. They could have stayed in Mexico since they were out of Central America. The previous administration is largely responsible for this continuing influx of illegal immigrants.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.2  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.1    8 years ago
The previous administration is largely responsible for this continuing influx of illegal immigrants.

Yeah, I guess that's why the immigrants called Obama the "Deporter and, Chief".

 
 
 
TTGA
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3.1.3  TTGA  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.1    8 years ago
Well, surely the parents knew the possibility of this happening, so coming here illegally is sorta irresponsible on their part. They could have stayed in Mexico since they were out of Central America.

Yep.   They were no longer refugees since they were out of the danger zone. 

Simple solution for the separation problem, easily understood by anyone.  If you do not wish to be separated from your children, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CROSS THE BORDER INTO THE US WITHOUT THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK.  If you do so, you are a criminal.  Criminals do not get to stay with their children.

If they commit the crime of  crossing our border illegally, whatever happens to them is not our problem, neither is it Trump's problem.  It is strictly THEIR PROBLEM.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.2    8 years ago
the immigrants called Obama the "Deporter and, Chief"

Turning illegals away at the border is not the same as deporting them.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.4    8 years ago

Actually it is, the end result is the same...they didn't come into the country. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.1    8 years ago

Imagine being poor, starving and in threat of your own government killing you for no good reason.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.7  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.4    8 years ago
Turning illegals away at the border is not the same as deporting them.

30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

Very Christian of you.

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.1.8  Rmando  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.7    8 years ago

The illegal aliens sneaking in here ARE the robbers!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.9  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rmando @3.1.8    8 years ago
The illegal aliens sneaking in here ARE the robbers!

Is that how you feel about your ancestors who came here? Were they "robbers"?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.10  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.4    8 years ago
Turning illegals away at the border is not the same as deporting them.

For data purposes they are. Trump counts a 'turn away' as a deportation just like Obama did. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.1.11  Spikegary  replied to  cjcold @3.1.6    8 years ago

And yet, they have come from Central America and are now in Mexico, which is not a threat to them, especially from their own government. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.1.12  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.7    8 years ago

Was a decent comment, until you decided to make it personal.  For shame.

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.1.13  Rmando  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.9    8 years ago

It's a little late to do anything anybody robbing land. And it doesn't even apply to most illegals anyway. They can trace themselves back to the conquistadors who were the first Europeans to start grabbing land.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.14  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rmando @3.1.13    8 years ago
They can trace themselves back to the conquistadors who were the first Europeans to start grabbing land.

And, something to consider, they at one time, owned all the land up to Louisiana, Northern Colorado and, west to the Pacific.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @3.1.13    8 years ago
It's a little late to do anything anybody robbing land.

Why? The Jews waited centuries. 

And it doesn't even apply to most illegals anyway. They can trace themselves back to the conquistadors who were the first Europeans to start grabbing land.

Do you really think that there were no indigenous people living in the West and Southwest before the fucking Conquistadors invaded? 

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.1.16  Rmando  replied to  Dulay @3.1.15    8 years ago

The illegals invading from the south arent Native Americans from the West and Southwest, are they? They are descendents of the original colonizers and no more entitled than anyone else. But keep on searching for a victim....

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.1.17  Rmando  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.14    8 years ago

And lost it in a war. Of course before that it was all owned by Spain. I don't see anybody wanting to give them back their old colonies.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.18  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rmando @3.1.17    8 years ago
And lost it in a war. Of course before that it was all owned by Spain.

France also had a hand in ownership once upon a time.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.19  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @3.1.16    8 years ago
The illegals invading from the south arent Native Americans from the West and Southwest, are they?

Actually, historically, they sure as hell are.

Oh and perhaps you were unaware that Mexico is in North AMERICA and there is a South AMERICAN continent too. EVERYONE born there are 'Native Americans' and the VAST majority have a much longer ancestral claim to this hemisphere that anyone with European ancestors. 

They are descendents of the original colonizers and no more entitled than anyone else.

Wrong again. There are MANY Indigenous Tribes in Mexico and South America that have quite pure ancestry compared to their U.S. counterparts. No one but an idiot would claim that U.S. Native American Tribes aren't 'more entitled' to a claim to this land. 

But keep on searching for a victim....

Keep on striving for an education. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.20  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @3.1.17    8 years ago
And lost it in a war. Of course before that it was all owned by Spain. I don't see anybody wanting to give them back their old colonies.

You really have NO clue WTF you are talking about. For you summer school assignment, go read a history book about the history of the west. 

In the mean time, here is a visual aid for you edification. 

NA tribes. .png

You MAY recognize some of the Tribes on the map. Alas unfortunately, all too many are all but extinct. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    8 years ago
“Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the US,” he wrote.

I Trump wrote here is a falsehood, ask this one question when you read his statement. Who is currently in charge of both houses of Congress and, the Executive Branch? Those are the people who are currently in charge of changing laws. If Trump was interested in fixing this he could submit a bill to Congress who could then vote on it.

Many of the articles I've read on this have been dated 2014, 2015.

Again, who currently is in charge of Congress, they have the power, if they chose to use it.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2    8 years ago

It is what it is, elections have consequences, but what is the point of attacking Ivanka.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.2  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.1    8 years ago

That is why I seeded this, I don't see the reason myself.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.2.3  PJ  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2.2    8 years ago

I can't believe I have to point this out.

Ivanka Trump is an advisor to the President.  She has CHOSEN to sit in the White House and help move the President's agenda forward as well as shape policies for all of the United States.

Let's also not forget her proclaimation that she was going to be an advocate for women.  Well guess what.....women are mothers.

If she wants to be a private citizen then she needs to get out of the White House.  Otherwise, she is a surogate of this President and open to criticism.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.4  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  PJ @3.2.3    8 years ago
If she wants to be a private citizen then she needs to get out of the White House.

Then criticize the policy put forth by her father and, Sessions, not the idea that she is a mother.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.2.5  PJ  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2.4    8 years ago

Where did I criticize at all?  I simply pointed out that she is fair game because she works for America and not just the President Trump supporters.  If she doesn't want criticism she needs to get out of the White House.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.6  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  PJ @3.2.5    8 years ago
Where did I criticize at all?

Maybe I used the wrong word.

I simply pointed out that she is fair game because she works for America and not just the President Trump supporters.

True but, she is also the First Daughter, there is some latitude that needs to be given for that. Not much but, some.

If she doesn't want criticism she needs to get out of the White House.

That won't happen as long as daddy is POTUS, unfortunately.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.2.7  PJ  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2.6    8 years ago

I'm sorry but I disagree.  She is a civil servant.  She will receive no latitude because she is using her position to promote policy in the country and well as to financially benefit personnally.  Not sure if you saw that principal advisor/first daughter just received several brand approvals from China......  I'm not giving her any free passes.  

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.8  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  PJ @3.2.7    8 years ago

Yep, I did see that, 7 brand lines in China, just as Trump gives in to easing sanctions on China and, saying China needs jobs. Amazing how that worked out, isn't it?

Now, let's stay on topic. Please?

 
 
 
PJ
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3.2.9  PJ  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2.8    8 years ago

I have nothing else to add but I do take exception to you suggesting I'm off topic.  My comment about the brand shows that she is in a position of influence.   Try and look at the broader picture.  

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.2.10  Spikegary  replied to  PJ @3.2.3    8 years ago

Is she complaining or is it the silly people that are making a big deal about a photo of her and her son, which, BTW, she is ignoring? 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4  magnoliaave    8 years ago

Lovely photo of Ivanka and her little one.  The DOJ clearly said children who are brought in illegally could be separated from parents.  Even though I am totally against this happening, it is totally irresponsible of the parents to do so. There is no way I would do this unless it meant my child's life.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4    8 years ago
Even though I am totally against this happening, it is totally irresponsible of the parents to do so. There is no way I would do this unless it meant my child's life.

Should they have just left their children in the country they came from? Wouldn't that have been more irresponsible of them? Wouldn't it have cost that child's life to have left them in the country they came from?

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.1  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1    8 years ago

I wouldn't have left to begin with leaving my children behind.  I am responsible for them.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.2  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.1    8 years ago
I wouldn't have left to begin with leaving my children behind. I am responsible for them.

And, they know that they are responsible for their children, that is why they take them with them and, the reasons they want to leave the country they are from may vary by person and, country, not enough jobs, a crooked government, rebels raiding villages like the ones they come from, if you don't want to leave conditions like those to save your children then, what kind of parent does that make you?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.2    8 years ago
they are responsible for their children, that is why they take them with them and, the reasons they want to leave the country

For some if not many immigrants I'd say that is true and the catch 22 that drives them to try to relocate to a better existence.

It seems its a universal want, for our children to have it better than we did or do.

I was fortunate when my life needed more than the local area and workforce and government provided in my area I legally "immigrated" or as I called it relocated to another state.

also more fortunately, I was born in America to begin with.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.4  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.3    8 years ago
It seems its a universal want, for our children to have it better than we did or do.

Which is the point I'm trying to get across to Magnolia.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.5  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.2    8 years ago

They had children in conditions like that.  We have children in the U.S. who don't have it so good.  Parents unemployed, living on the streets or in squalor. 

That's like taking food from your own hungry kids and giving it to a neighbors kids.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.6  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.5    8 years ago
They had children in conditions like that. We have children in the U.S. who don't have it so good.  Parents unemployed, living on the streets or in squalor.

Well, gosh, I don't think they had much choice in were their kids were born,

slums.jpg slum2.jpg

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.7  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.6    8 years ago

Why no choice?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.8  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.5    8 years ago
That's like taking food from your own hungry kids and giving it to a neighbors kids.

Sure, a North American slum,

slum 3.jpg

In our country we help the poor, at least right now, that could change with Trump in office. Which place, if you had a choice of the two sets of pictures I've shown you, would you rather live in? By the way, it's your only choices.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.9  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.7    8 years ago

Because their government doesn't give them a choice, that is why a lot of them become rebels and, try to over throw the government or, they become drug lords, either one pays more than labor work.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.10  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.8    8 years ago

I have lived in two other countries...one, being Mexico. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.11  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.10    8 years ago
I have lived in two other countries...one, being Mexico.

That's nice, how much time did you spend in the slums?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.12  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.5    8 years ago
That's like taking food from your own hungry kids and giving it to a neighbors kids.

True, Unless you are the neighbor, then both scenarios suck.

 
 
 
TTGA
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4.1.13  TTGA  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1    8 years ago
Should they have just left their children in the country they came from? Wouldn't that have been more irresponsible of them? Wouldn't it have cost that child's life to have left them in the country they came from?

Galen,

They were in Mexico, not in Central America any more.  They had reached a reasonable level of safety, for both themselves and their children.  All they had to do was visit the US Consulate and start the paperwork if they felt that they had a case.  Under no circumstances should they have attempted to cross the US border, with or without their children.

they are responsible for their children, that is why they take them with them and, the reasons they want to leave the country

And just why would that be our problem?  We are not, and never will be, responsible for the welfare of everyone in the world.  If they wish us to be responsible for their welfare, they should force the government of their country to give up sovereignty to the US Government.  Then we will rule their country and make it better.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.16  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.11    8 years ago

Actually, from our beautiful villa we had to walk through various parts of Guadalajaro and Cuernavaca; 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.17  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  TTGA @4.1.13    8 years ago
They were in Mexico, not in Central America any more. They had reached a reasonable level of safety, for both themselves and their children. All they had to do was visit the US Consulate and start the paperwork if they felt that they had a case. Under no circumstances should they have attempted to cross the US border, with or without their children.

Maybe because of this.

The Mexican government made clear to visiting US emissaries that it will not accept deportees from third countries under any circumstances, the interior secretary said on Friday.

Mexicans fear Trump deportation plan will lead to refugee camps along border
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Miguel Angel Osorio Chong said in an interview with Radio Formula that the US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, and the homeland security secretary, John Kelly, asked Mexican officials during their Thursday visit if they would host deportees from other countries while their immigration cases are processed in the US.
“They can’t leave them here on the border because we have to reject them. There is no chance they would be received by Mexico,” he said

And just why would that be our problem?

The Parable of the Good Samaritan
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”
Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

We are not, and never will be, responsible for the welfare of everyone in the world.

Jesus says otherwise.

If they wish us to be responsible for their welfare, they should force the government of their country to give up sovereignty to the US Government. Then we will rule their country and make it better.

How, we can barely rule ourselves without killing each other, ask the Native Americans how it's working out for them.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.18  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to    8 years ago
So libs do believe in the Immaculate Conception?

What does virgin birth have to do with this? Off topic.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.19  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.16    8 years ago
Actually, from our beautiful villa we had to walk through various parts of Guadalajaro and Cuernavaca;

Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus
19 Jesus said, “There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed in purple and fine linen and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus who was covered with sores. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man’s table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores.
22 “Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the heavenly banquet.[a] The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and he went to the place of the dead.[b] There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side.
24 “The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’
25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’
27 “Then the rich man said, ‘Please, Father Abraham, at least send him to my father’s home. 28 For I have five brothers, and I want him to warn them so they don’t end up in this place of torment.’
29 “But Abraham said, ‘Moses and the prophets have warned them. Your brothers can read what they wrote.’
30 “The rich man replied, ‘No, Father Abraham! But if someone is sent to them from the dead, then they will repent of their sins and turn to God.’
31 “But Abraham said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.21  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to    8 years ago
Well, why would people in abject squalor procreate? And then claim there are children in poverty?

You make no sense here, I'm still wondering why you mentioned "Immaculate Conception", which is the term used for the birth of Jesus. As to your question in this post, why do people have children to begin with? Maybe because they want a family. Maybe because, they are Catholic and, their religion forbids abortion or, contraception so, when they have sex, the women tend to get pregnant.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.22  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.19    8 years ago

Great.....you have a Bible.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.23  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.22    8 years ago

LOL, Maggie, I've had a Bible in my life since I was a kid, I just don't believe in following what some greedy preacher says and, Wicca is closer to what I believe anyway.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.1.24  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.23    8 years ago

I remember you said something about being a Wiccan.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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4.1.25  lennylynx  replied to  magnoliaave @4.1.24    8 years ago

He has a broom that he can fly around on!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.26  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  lennylynx @4.1.25    8 years ago

Yeah, it's called a "Silverado".

 
 
 
lennylynx
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4.1.27  lennylynx  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.26    8 years ago

A Chevy man??  Cool, I always liked you Galen, now I flat out love ya!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.28  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  lennylynx @4.1.27    8 years ago
Cool, I always liked you Galen, now I flat out love ya!

Chevy trucks and, Mopar Dodges pre 1980's.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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4.1.29  lennylynx  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.28    8 years ago

Dodge cars?  Ok, now we might be sliding back to just 'like.'

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.30  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  lennylynx @4.1.29    8 years ago

Real Dodges not the ones they're making now.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.31  charger 383  replied to  TTGA @4.1.13    8 years ago

you are right it is not our problem

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.32  charger 383  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.30    8 years ago

I like the old Dodges

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.33  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.31    8 years ago

If you are a Christian refer to my post 4.1.19.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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4.1.35  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1    8 years ago

The assumption that they would just go and live in the United States is the issue.  There is no guarantee that a citizen form another country can just move into the United States.  There is an immigration policy.  Follow it, just as everyone else has.  If you try to enter the country illegally, you are a criminal and will be spearated from your children.  It shouldn't be a surprise when this happens.  If you cross the border illegally into Mexico, or Canada for that matter, you are also subject to arrest.  Why should that be any different her in the U.S.?

 
 
 
Spikegary
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4.1.36  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.8    8 years ago
In our country we help the poor, at least right now, that could change with Trump in office.

He is in office.  That's a pretty foolish statement.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.37  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Spikegary @4.1.35    8 years ago
If you try to enter the country illegally, you are a criminal and will be spearated from your children.

Only under the Trump Administration, no other administration has done this.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4.1.38  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Spikegary @4.1.36    8 years ago
That's a pretty foolish statement.

No, that is fact.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    8 years ago

The insanity of the left wing on twitter (which is where all these "firsetorms" take place) is large part of the reason why Trump is our President. 

This is the perfect example.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    8 years ago

Why hate on Ivanka? She's not out there breaking the law with her kid in tow. Therefore, she won't be arrested for anything and she won't have to be separated from her child.

By contrast, these foreign nationals cross our border illegally and are - quite appropriately - arrested for breaking the law. Of course they are separated from their children! Are the children supposed to go to jail with them? Are we not supposed to arrest law breakers just because they have a child with them? People need to grow up and face reality.

 
 
 
TTGA
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6.1  TTGA  replied to  Tacos! @6    8 years ago
Why hate on Ivanka? She's not out there breaking the law with her kid in tow. Therefore, she won't be arrested for anything and she won't have to be separated from her child.

They hate on Ivanka because she is connected to Donald Trump.  In the view of the Resistance, anyone having anything at all to do with Trump must be guilty of something.  If they can't find something real, they will twist something innocent or just make something up.  The rule the Resistance follows is, ANYTHING TO GET TRUMP, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.  They believe, as first propounded by Josip Stalin, that "The Party Comes First. Anything that must be done is acceptable if it helps the Party".  "The Party" is not, of course, the Democratic Party.  The Resistance, no longer has much use for them. except as a nominal tag to keep from offending too many voters.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.1  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  TTGA @6.1    8 years ago
They believe, as first propounded by Josip Stalin, that "The Party Comes First. Anything that must be done is acceptable if it helps the Party".

Your whole comment is pure BS.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.3  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    8 years ago
No, he pretty well nailed it.

Only if he's talking about the current crop of Republicans.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @6.1.1    8 years ago
Your whole comment is pure BS

Your argument is not persuasive. It's also not an argument.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.6  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.5    8 years ago
Your argument is not persuasive. It's also not an argument.

So? His comment is still BS.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @6.1.6    8 years ago

off topic [ph]

 
 
 
Spikegary
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6.1.9  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @6.1.1    8 years ago

A well reasoned reasponse.  Not.  Come on, you're better than that.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.10  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Spikegary @6.1.9    8 years ago
Come on, you're better than that.

Spike, I don't like stupidity and, deflection and, that whole post in 6.1 was both, that is what makes it BS.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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8  seeder  Galen Marvin Ross    8 years ago
Or possibly, the left is tone deaf? Has she done anthing criminal?

How did she get 7 trademark protections in China so quickly? It is said the president used his office to do it, seems fishy to me.

No. Have illegals? Yes. There lies the difference that you can't seem to hear.

The "illegals" are trying to find a better life and, escape a life were there is more death than life to be had.

 
 

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