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Page 203 of IG Report says Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton tarmac meeting was planned via Secret Service, FBI

  

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Via:  norman-d  •  8 years ago  •  249 comments

Page 203 of IG Report says Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton tarmac meeting was planned via Secret Service, FBI

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Stunning revelations from the IG report of DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz (an Obama appointee) suggests that the 2016 tarmac meeting between then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton was coordinated — contradicting their claims that the meeting was accidental and coincidental.

In 2016, Lynch — the U.S. attorney general under Barack Obama — secretly met for 30 minutes with Bill Clinton on an airport tarmac in Arizona. At the time, then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was being investigated by the FBI over her 30,000 deleted emails and her destroyed government-issued phones, which she and her team smashed with hammers.

Page 203 of the   IG report  suggests that Bill Clinton’s Secret Service detail had contacted Lynch’s FBI detail to set up the meeting when their planes were on the tarmac:


“The OPA (Office of Public Affairs) Supervisor said that he later learned that former President Clinton’s Secret Service detail had contacted Lynch’s FBI security detail to let them know that   the former President wanted to meet with Lynch . Although Lynch’s staff was supposed to receive notice of such 204 requests, witnesses told us that they were not informed of the request from former President Clinton.”


As BizPac Review has reported, Lynch and Clinton   claimed they only discussed grandchildren   and golf during their rendezvous.

“Our conversation was a great deal about grandchildren…and he mentioned golf he played in Phoenix,” Lynch said at the time.

Christopher Sign, an anchor for   ABC News 3340   in Alabama, said there’s no evidence that Clinton had played golf during his visit. “Two years later and I have not found a person who can confirm that former President Clinton played golf during that trip to Phoenix,” Sign remarked.

Furthermore, page 209 of the IG Report suggests that people nearby were instructed not to take any photos of the tarmac meeting: “The OPA Supervisor said that there was a photographer outside, and he recalled telling the photographer that Lynch would not be taking pictures. The OPA Supervisor said that he remembered telling the photographer that he (the photographer) needed to go back in his car.”


And page 210 of the IG report states:

“The Senior Counselor said that when she tried to go back on the plane, she was stopped by the head of Lynch’s security detail, who was at the door of the plane. The Senior Counselor said that   she told him that Lynch’s meeting with former President Clinton was not a good idea, and that she needed to get back on the plane, but he still would not let her on .


Less than a week after the Lynch-Clinton tarmac meeting, then-FBI Director James Comey (whose boss was Loretta Lynch) announced that the FBI would not recommend an indictment against Hillary. Coincidence?

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Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 years ago

No one can possibly believe they jumped though all these hoops to set up a secret meeting so they could discuss grandchildren, do they?  

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
6  Sunshine    8 years ago

Busted....applause

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sunshine @6    8 years ago

caught_red_handed_by_naybabe.gif

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    8 years ago

More 'fluff' for the 'fluffers.'

Ex-presidents and serving Attorney Generals' always have Secret Service close at hand.

This 'piece' is searching for straws in the soybean field again.

Right wing is constantly trying to tag something on The Obama Administration.  Perhaps the right wing should search porn archives to see if anything turns up.  Then again, maybe they shouldn't.  Its rough to look for dirt only to find out you are the one bringing it.

 
 
 
epistte
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8.1  epistte  replied to  bbl-1 @8    8 years ago

The Secret Service is always involved with Air Force One and the POTUS's security. It would be news if they were not. 

This article is fluff in search of a nutty conspiracy theory.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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8.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  epistte @8.1    8 years ago
The Secret Service is always involved with Air Force One and the POTUS's security. It would be news if they were not.

Can you tell us what type of aircraft she was in, because it was NOT Air Force One. That designation is only used when a president is aboard. According to news reports Clinton knew she was arriving and had his flight crew wait for her.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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8.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  epistte @8.1    8 years ago
The Secret Service is always involved with Air Force One and the POTUS's security. It would be news if they were not.

You're correct, except the meeting was between a former POTUS and the (at that time current) AG. Obama wasn't there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @8.1    8 years ago
nutty conspiracy theory.

The IG report?

 
 
 
epistte
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8.1.4  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    8 years ago

Where is the evidence of her supposed crimes? Republicans have been chasing your tails for 18 years to get Hillary and so far you have only achieved is making yourselves look like fools and wasting millions of dollars in the process.  

Attacking Hillary has become a way for the GOP to defect their supporters attention from their failures or from serious issues that they would rather have ignored. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.2  Kavika   replied to  bbl-1 @8    8 years ago
This 'piece' is searching for straws in the soybean field again.

Are those the same soybeans that were destined for China until the new tariffs (gasp)..Now they just lying in a field rotting.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
8.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Kavika @8.2    8 years ago

Nope.  Let em' rot.  They voted for the rot now they can eat the rot.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.2.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Kavika @8.2    8 years ago
Now they just lying in a field rotting.

Yeah....rather than to give them to people who are starving right here in the US of A.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @8    8 years ago
Ex-presidents and serving Attorney Generals' always have Secret Service close at hand.

Lol' that's not exactly the issue

This 'piece' is searching for straws in the soybean field again.

And appears to have exposed a big fat biased AG crossing a bright red line!

Right wing is constantly trying to tag something on The Obama Administration.

All roads lead there

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9  MrFrost    8 years ago

I don't really care...do you? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1  bbl-1  replied to  MrFrost @9    8 years ago

If any other First Lady would have worn a jacket with that slogan...…………………...but not this one.  Why?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
9.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    8 years ago

What lies?  You mean the dems lied about meeting Russians in Obama Tower?  Those lies?

"I really don't care--------do you?"  What does that mean?  And why did Melania--the exquisite dresser--choose that for that event?

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  NORMAN-D @9.1.4    8 years ago

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MrFrost
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9.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  NORMAN-D @9.1.4    8 years ago
Beats me....But, it seemingly triggered some.

What difference does it make? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1.7  bbl-1  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.5    8 years ago

Why?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @9    8 years ago
I don't really care...do you?

Kinda like Gen Custer didn't care about all those thousands of Indian pony tracks.

 
 
 
Ender
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10  Ender    8 years ago
suggests

Haaha...I could suggest a lot of things.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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11  lennylynx    8 years ago

I saw Loretta Lynn live once...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

Perhaps previously only The Shadow knew, but now the rest of the world has notice of "what evil lurks in the hearts of men (and women)". Previously clandestinely hidden, now exposed and all the bleating denials and ridicule from the Hillerians cannot cover up the cesspool. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    8 years ago

Or you could actually READ the NEXT couple of paragraphs in the report and realize that the innuendo is bullshit. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Dulay @12.1    8 years ago

I don't have to read the report to know this was a pre-arranged meeting. And everyone knows it, no matter how much the left denies it.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
12.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Greg Jones @12.1.1    8 years ago

Everything is pre-arranged.   You do know that, right?

On the upside, I'm sure Lynch and Clinton didn't discuss their Russian contacts like the Trump team were doing.

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.3  epistte  replied to  Greg Jones @12.1.1    8 years ago
I don't have to read the report to know this was a pre-arranged meeting.

Of course it was pre-arranged. AF1 doesn't just land at an airport without previous security checks. This isn't like a road trip in your family truckster.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bbl-1 @12.1.2    8 years ago

And proper security required the Attorney General to be there? Why not the POTUS?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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12.1.6  arkpdx  replied to  epistte @12.1.3    8 years ago

Air Force 1 was not at that airport. Only when the currently serving president is aboard any fixed wing aircraft is it designated AF1. Rotary aircraft is Marine one. 

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.7  epistte  replied to  arkpdx @12.1.6    8 years ago
Air Force 1 was not at that airport. Only when the currently serving president is aboard any fixed wing aircraft is it designated AF1. Rotary aircraft is Marine one.

Why do you care who the former POTUS meets? He does have a Secret Service security detail so they make arrangements for any flights. 

Do you think that Slick Willy and Lynch are having an affair or was the meeting preliminary to some nefarious deep state meeting where they will sell us to a one-world government and force you into perpetual slavery in Vietnam working for a Chinese corporation?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  epistte @12.1.7    8 years ago

No, not at all. Just a simple discussion about Hillary's culpability. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @12.1.7    8 years ago

And you see nothing inappropriate about the AG who is investigating Hillary Clinton meeting with her husband?  I hate to say it this way, but even you know it's wrong.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.1.11  Greg Jones  replied to  epistte @12.1.3    8 years ago
AF1 doesn't just land at an airport without previous security checks.

There is no evidence her airplane was AF1. Please provide proof.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.1.12  Greg Jones  replied to  epistte @12.1.7    8 years ago
Do you think that Slick Willy and Lynch are having an affair or was the meeting preliminary to some nefarious deep state meeting where they will sell us to a one-world government and force you into perpetual slavery in Vietnam working for a Chinese corporation?

Really bad job of deflection and denial.

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @12.1.1    8 years ago
I don't have to read the report to know this was a pre-arranged meeting.

So despite the facts you prefer to rely on the tingle down your leg. Got ya. 

And everyone knows it, no matter how much the left denies it.

Nope, no matter how much y'all want to claim that how you FEEL about an issue should be the basis of everyone's opinion, there are STILL people that prefer to base their opinions on FACTS. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
12.1.14  Jasper2529  replied to  epistte @12.1.3    8 years ago
Of course it was pre-arranged. AF1 doesn't just land at an airport without previous security checks.

Why were a former POTUS and a current AG using AF-1? That plane is specifically for a sitting POTUS' use - at that time, it was Barack Obama.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
12.1.17  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.16    8 years ago

Maybe they had to meet secretly on a plane because they didn't want anyone to know they were talking about their grandkids?

maybe all their phones broke?

I just want to know why they lied about it.

Simple - they (the Obama Administration from POTUS down and its talons) planned on Hillary winning ... until she didn't ... and that's why they've all been caught with their pants down.

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.18  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.15    8 years ago
it is an undeniable fact that Lynch meeting with Clinton and then lying about it was highly unethical.

Please post a link from a reliable source that proves that Lynch lied about anything. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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12.1.19  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @12.1.18    8 years ago
Please post a link from a reliable source that proves that Lynch lied about anything.

And the reliable source in YOUR mind would be ?

Funny word these days.....reliable ! 

Abused ..... just like other words Democrats, Leftists and Progressive types have thrown out there.....over and over and over again.

This word …. reliable ...…. is Useless too ! winking

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.21  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.20    8 years ago

Pretty links you have there. Which one of them proves that Lynch lied? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.22  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @12.1.19    8 years ago
Funny word these days.....reliable !

Nope, it's no funnier than it ever was. What's SAD is that all too few are willing to acknowledge what it means and want to pretend that meaning has changed. It hasn't. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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12.1.23  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @12.1.22    8 years ago

"Please post a link from a reliable source"

I notice YOU didn't give a source you would be proud of.

So YOU were just pretending ?

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.26  epistte  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.8    8 years ago
No, not at all. Just a simple discussion about Hillary's culpability.

How long are you going to continue this charade? 

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.29  epistte  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.10    8 years ago
Ummmm... he was a potential witness in a major investigation, involving his wife. Gee, no conflict of interest there.

Maybe they buried the incriminating documents under a pizza shop?

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.30  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @12.1.27    8 years ago
Culpability for what?

Hillary is satan in a pantsuit and sensible heels.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
12.1.33  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  epistte @12.1.30    8 years ago
Hillary is satan in a pantsuit and sensible heels.

Sorry epi, but I CAN NOT resist this, and I am going straight to hell.....

her pant suits reminded me of my grandmothers couch covers , and they looked better on the couch , as for the sensible shoes , most women her age develop Canckles  so they make sense , and since cowboys like fat calves, just only in the cow pen not on women .

 damn I hate it when I decide to have some devilish fun.....

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.34  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.32    8 years ago
You asked nicely for links, and I provided them.

I asked for a link that PROVES that Lynch lied. None of your links prove that she lied about anything. The report doesn't say she lied about anything, nor does it prove that their meeting was 'planned'. Y'all are welcome to believe whatever you want but claiming that what you believe is a fact that is a totally different thing altogether. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.38  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.37    8 years ago
Here is your challenge....YOU show us proof that Gen Flynn...lied.

Gee Norman, it kinda looks like your running your seed off topic. 

BTFW, that's not much of a challenge since Flynn pled guilty to lying. 

And I will happily show you prove that Loretta lied her ass off.

I thought that's what your seed was supposed to prove and that was all you had. Are you saying you have been holding back vital information? Because your seed is a dude. 

Are you game?

Always.

Or are you just in this for the hell of it?

Well since at least I don't get paid to post here, the hell of it will just have to do.

Statements matter.

Why yes, YES Norman, they do. 

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.39  epistte  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.36    8 years ago
So....are you now, prepared to admit that AF-1, was not involved in the Clinton/Lynch tarmac obstruction of justice meeting?

What do you suspect Hillary Clinton being guilty of, except bad taste and a personality that could turn kittens away?  Is she a member of the super-duper secret Bilderbergers who schemes to sell all white male Trump voters into white slavery for her next pair for low heeled pumps and a gold butt plug crafted from the molar fillings of both Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.42  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.40    8 years ago
Now, if you deliberately choose to see THAT as "truth", when the IG report specifically says the meeting WAS planned, then I can't help you.

As quoted in the article:

“The OPA (Office of Public Affairs) Supervisor said that he later learned that former President Clinton’s Secret Service detail had contacted Lynch’s FBI security detail to let them know that the former President wanted to meet with Lynch. Although Lynch’s staff was supposed to receive notice of such 204 requests, witnesses told us that they were not informed of the request from former President Clinton.”

The IG report DOESN'T say that the meeting WAS 'planned'. 

I can't make you see what the lie is anymore than I can make you see the truth.

You can't make me see a lie that doesn't exist anywhere but in your mind. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.43  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.41    8 years ago
Please keep your snarky comments to yourself--or at least direct them to someone who gives a damn.

Did you forget that you already replied to that comment Tex? 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
12.1.44  epistte  replied to    8 years ago
If Slick Willy has a security detail then the Secrert Service is involved in the flight planning.
 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.48  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.46    8 years ago
I can be as snarky as you.

Please proceed...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.1.49  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @12.1.13    8 years ago
"Nope, no matter how much y'all want to claim that how you FEEL about an issue should be the basis of everyone's opinion, there are STILL people that prefer to base their opinions on FACTS."

Actually, that's a valid statement. I feel the same way about people who criticize me for posting articles from The Gatestone Institute.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.50  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.49    8 years ago
I feel the same way about people who criticize me for posting articles from The Gatestone Institute.

Is that why you pulled the seed? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.51  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @12.1.50    8 years ago

Constructive criticism is one thing, attacking a member is another. The extent of being uncivil is indicated by the scores of flags each day.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.53  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.51    8 years ago
Constructive criticism is one thing, attacking a member is another.

Please post the link to my comment that you claim 'attacked a member'. 

The extent of being uncivil is indicated by the scores of flags each day.

Who would you know how many flags any given member gets each day?

If conservatives would stop flagging comments just because they don't like the content, our Mods would have an easier time of it. 

Oh and I'll note that no matter how many of my comments that y'all DO flag, they are RARELY removed for CoC violations. 

BTW, you didn't answer my question. 

 
 
 
epistte
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12.1.54  epistte  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.52    8 years ago

Do you sincerely trust the pronouncements of this alt-right loon? 

Mike Tokes

Mike Tokes is one of the many self-described “journalists” who have been showing up at rallies to produce agitprop for the “alt-right” movement. He capitalises on the deep animus the “alt-right” have for mainstream “fake news” to raise funds for himself and others to travel around the country to “alt-right” events (right now, he’s trying to crowdfund his trip to Portland). He has 126,000 Twitter followers, and images and videos there and on his Instagram account show how close he is to other LA-based “alt-right” figures like Baked Alaska and Omar Navvarro , who is running an Infowars-endorsed campaign for Congress against Maxine Waters. Expect him to gather images of the chaos for recruitment and intelligence.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.55  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @12.1.53    8 years ago

You are referring to an article I deleted long ago, and frankly, although I know why I deleted it, which I said, I don't recall exact quotations or comments - sorry, but at my age my memory is no longer perfect. Perhaps if you had asked contemporaneously with my deleting the article, my memory might have been better.

The answer to your question about whether my being criticized, and in my opinion neither constructively nor civilly nor fairly, the answer would be yes.

Only mods, declared and undeclared, are aware of flags.  That's all I'm going to tell you.

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.56  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.55    8 years ago
You are referring to an article I deleted long ago, and frankly, although I know why I deleted it, which I said, I don't recall exact quotations or comments - sorry, but at my age my memory is no longer perfect. Perhaps if you had asked contemporaneously with my deleting the article, my memory might have been better.

It wasn't that 'long ago' and it's interesting that you had no problem remembering that I was ONE of the members criticizing your Gatestone seed. I will say though that my criticism wasn't merely the source since I proved that the posit of the seed was a lie. 

The answer to your question about whether my being criticized, and in my opinion neither constructively nor civilly nor fairly, the answer would be yes.

I have no idea what question you are talking about. 

Only mods, declared and undeclared, are aware of flags.

Ohhh intrigue. 

That's all I'm going to tell you.

No worries, I'll ask Perrie about it. 

BTW, I see that you didn't link my comment that you claim was an attack on another member. Please do so or retract your false accusation. You're all about civility right? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.57  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @12.1.56    8 years ago

IMPASSE

 
 
 
Dulay
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12.1.58  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.57    8 years ago

Dulay,

When someone calls impasse there is no further commentary. Comment removed.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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12.1.59  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.9    8 years ago

You mean like Nunes meeting with Trump people to convey any information The House Investigative Team discovers concerning the investigation into Russian actions?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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12.1.61  Raven Wing   replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.41    8 years ago
Please keep your snarky comments to yourself--

The same can be said of you. You are the King of snark, yet, you feel you have the right to tell others what to do. Try taking your own advice for a change.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1.65  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @12.1.59    8 years ago
You mean like Nunes meeting with Trump people to convey any information The House Investigative Team discovers concerning the investigation into Russian actions?

That is something that really needs to be proven.

Link please

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.67  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.66    8 years ago

Wow, you really stretched hard for that one. 

So the author of your BS link states:

Trey Gowdy explicitly asked her whether she used any email accounts other than her official email.

And as 'proof' for that, the author then quotes Gowdy's question:

“So, you use official email to conduct official business,” Gowdy asked.

So as you can see, Gowdy did NOT 'explicitly ask' Lynch 'whether she used any email accounts other than her official email'. 

No LIE. 

Thanks for playing...

still waiting for proof...

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.69  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @12.1.68    8 years ago

But Norman, you said that you would happily show me proof 'that Loretta lied her ass off'. I'm just waiting for you to fulfill your promise. 

BTFW, if you think my comment was a CoC violation, flag it, don't reply to it. If you didn't flag it, inferring that it is a violation is BAD FORM. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.75  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.70    8 years ago
some can not accept proof when presented to them, no matter how many times it is shown.

While others pretend ad nauseam that they have provided proof to support their comments even though any thinking person here can see for their own eyes that they haven't. 

Don't worry about it!

Unless you care about your credibility. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
12.1.77  Dulay  replied to    8 years ago
Hard for someone to do that when snark is all they have and therefore all they ever use.

Don't think it's gone unnoticed just how hard it's been for you. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
12.2  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    8 years ago
Perhaps previously only The Shadow knew, but now the rest of the world has notice of "what evil lurks in the hearts of men (and women)".

It does show that most conservatives are incredibly gullible.    No wonder they're prone to believing such loony conspiracy theories.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @12.2    8 years ago

There is a saying about the Palestinians that 'they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity'.  As for quite a few NT members, I would change that to that 'they never miss an opportunity to insult others'.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
12.2.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.2.1    8 years ago
'they never miss an opportunity to insult others'.

Spot on!! Thumbs Up 2

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
13  Colour Me Free    8 years ago

Interesting read … while I was out searching for "congress forcing H. Clinton to testify under oath" .. I ran across several articles regarding the tarmac meeting … bad bad bad optics seemed to be the general consensus, which made me laugh  -  optics is not even half of what made this meeting a bad idea...

Some sources even report that B. Clinton was already on the tarmac and delayed his departure and crossed to the other side of the airport in order to have the (not so) clandestine meeting with Lynch … what was said in the meeting is all speculation .. and what took place a week later is all speculation that the meeting had anything to do with not being able to prove intent in regards to the private email server and the sending and receiving of classified information …. Comey call H. extremely careless .. when most feel he should have said gross negligence ...

I doubt we will ever know what took place .. perhaps in the future B. Clinton will be arrogant enough to write about the meeting in his memoirs (?)

P.s.. if Airforce One was at the airport, does that mean Obama was part of this meeting as well?  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
13.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Colour Me Free @13    8 years ago
Comey call H. extremely careless .. when most feel he should have said gross negligence ...

Comey's original report stated "gross negligence" ... but "someone" made him change it to "extremely careless". Gross negligence indicates criminal intent, and the Obama administration couldn't afford to expose Hillary's criminality to the public.

P.s.. if Airforce One was at the airport, does that mean Obama was part of this meeting as well?  

According to some posters on this seed, AF-1 was the plane on which B. Clinton and Lynch met to talk about "golf and grandkids". That means that Obama was there, too. How interesting!

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
13.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1    8 years ago

the planes that serve as AF-1 do not become AF-1 until the president is aboard, at any other time they use different call signs.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
13.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @13.1.1    8 years ago
the planes that serve as AF-1 do not become AF-1 until the president is aboard, at any other time they use different call signs.

Yes, I know. As you can see in my comment  13.1  , all I said was ...

According to some posters on this seed, AF-1 was the plane on which B. Clinton and Lynch met to talk about "golf and grandkids". That means that Obama was there, too.
 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1    8 years ago
Gross negligence indicates criminal intent

Wow, you are the first one of your group to admit that fact. Cheers. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
13.1.4  Colour Me Free  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1    8 years ago
Gross negligence indicates criminal intent, and the Obama administration couldn't afford to expose Hillary's criminality to the public.

Good point .. for Comey to seek no indictment of H. based on the lack of proof regarding intent - the wording had to be flowery.  I never thought that H. would be found guilty, but I did not think intent would be the thing to prevent the indictment … I would think that setting up a private server for government emails would show enough intent to indict.

                                                                            I was wrong

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Colour Me Free @13.1.4    8 years ago
I would think that setting up a private server for government emails would show enough intent to indict.

Setting up a private server for government emails isn't a crime. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
13.1.7  Colour Me Free  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.6    8 years ago
Hey now, just because Clinton was the ONLY S of S to NEVER use a @state.gov email address, doesn't mean she purposely tried to circumvent FOIA requests!

The private email server shows intent .. but since 'intent' could not be proven, no one will ever know why a private server was 'necessary' .. I do not buy that a private server somehow was convenient and lightened her load of multiple devices .. which is just speculation on my behalf - - - this will go down in history as an unsolved mystery : )

Still is frustrating that some think that a private email account is in anyway the same as a private server for private email accounts..

This is a dated as well as a rather long article, but I found it to be worth the time spent reading.. goes into great detail on the rules and the lack there of within State department ...

What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server

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3. The technophobe

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Why didn’t she have a State Department email address? That remains, to a certain extent, a mystery in the FBI files. At the beginning of the administration, the Executive Secretariat’s Office of Information Resource Management (S/ES-IRM)—the unit in the State Department that oversees information technology for the department’s top leadership—did offer the new incoming secretary a State.gov email address. But someone—exactly who is lost to history—on Clinton’s team declined. (Over the course of her tenure, the unit did create two email addresses for her, but neither was used personally. One address, SMSGS@State.gov, was used to send all-employee emails, while another, SSHRC@state.gov, was used to run the Outlook calendar and schedule meetings.)

Her preference for a personal email account was not technically against the rules. At State, FBI agents later found, there was “no restriction on use of personal email accounts for official business,” but employees were cautioned about security and records retention concerns. The State Department told employees that they should forward such emails to their official accounts for recordkeeping purposes. “There were no rules in place that specifically denied Secretary Clinton the use of her private network,” but, according to the State Department IG Steve Linick, private email was “highly discouraged.”

Officially “discouraged,” sure, but according to many that the FBI interviewed, the State Department’s culture uniquely embraced—and its poor information systems actively seemed to encourage—employees turning to private emails to conduct business. As FBI Director James Comey said in July when he reported the bureau’s findings: “We also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
13.1.8  Jasper2529  replied to  Colour Me Free @13.1.4    8 years ago
for Comey to seek no indictment of H. based on the lack of proof regarding intent - the wording had to be flowery.  I never thought that H. would be found guilty, but I did not think intent would be the thing to prevent the indictment … I would think that setting up a private server for government emails would show enough intent to indict.

As we've seen play out, the whole  HRC investigation ... errrrr "matter" ... was a farce. Comey wrote his exoneration before the FBI interviewed her.  if "intent" (criminality) had been found, their candidate (HRC) would be prosecuted and found guilty and the WH, DoJ, and FBI knew it. Obama, through Lynch as his mouthpiece, made Comey change his wording after they read his original conclusion.

Per rules and the contract HRC signed when she was SoS, she was not allowed to transmit or receive classified government-related emails through a private server. She deliberately did this many times - at home and abroad - including with the POTUS. If that doesn't show intent, I don't know what does!

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
13.1.9  Colour Me Free  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1.8    8 years ago
Per rules and the contract HRC signed when she was SoS, she was not allowed to transmit or receive classified government-related emails through a private server. She deliberately did this many times - at home and abroad - including with the POTUS. If that doesn't show intent, I don't know what does!

Preaching to the converted Jasper …  

NO one in the Obama administration was surprised when the server came to light either - great orator. excellent condescending look of boredom when speaking to the American people ..  however, the shocked look was not the former President's strong suit....

 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.10  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @13.1.8    8 years ago
Obama, through Lynch as his mouthpiece, made Comey change his wording after they read his original conclusion.

Wow! What page is THAT on in the IG report? /s

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.12  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.11    8 years ago
But it IS common knowledge

If only 'common knowledge' had any relationship to FACTS. As it rarely does, I prefer PROOF and am still waiting for you to post some that proves that Lynch LIED as you asserted.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.14  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.13    8 years ago
I provided it top you and you refuse to accept that,

Why keep making what has been proven is a false statement? NONE of your links prove the Lynch LIED. That is a FACT. 

What I refuse to accept is a false assertion. You've made more than one in this thread alone. 

And this little tidbit for ya!
Common knowledge

The only 'common knowledge' at issue here about the topic at hand and the false assertions by you and others. Y'all can't prove anything you claim so you obfuscate and deflect. 

Keep Digging a whole .

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
13.1.17  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @13.1.16    8 years ago

12.1.66 was comical. Thanks for the laugh.

So what conspiracy theory are you claiming your video proves? 

By the way, you seem to have veered away from defending the posit of your seed. I hope that is because you recognize that it's bullshit. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
14  cjcold    8 years ago

Sorry right wingers you've gotten all of the political spin out of this harmless meeting between old friends that you're going to.

You do realize that there are inventions called telephones where they could have talked all day don't you? But since everything is a conspiracy to far right wingers..............

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
14.2  Sunshine  replied to  cjcold @14    8 years ago
between old friends

Yeah....old friends, Eye Roll

Loretta Lynch is beholden to the Clintons. Bill Clinton appointed Ms. Lynch to serve as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York in 1999, jump-starting her career with the White House. It isn’t a well-known fact Loretta Lynch was a litigation partner for eight years at a Washington law firm that served the Clintons. Loretta Lynch was with the international law firm Hogan & Hartson LLP from March of 2002 to April of 2010. Lynch has refused to suggest her relations with the Clinton’s is a conflict of interest. (The average person would think there is a conflict.)

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14.2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @14.2    8 years ago

Ka-BOOM!

Clapping

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
14.4  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @14    8 years ago

Of course Clinton's Secret Service detail and Lynch's FBI detail coordinated with each other. That's what they do. Trying to make this fact sound ominous just shows the ignorance of far right wing propagandists and their target audience. Amazing how they can make innuendo last for so many years with no facts other than two old friends running into each other.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
14.4.2  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @14.4.1    8 years ago
why did Lynch and Clinton both lie?

It was called a "Misspeak". Eye Roll

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
14.4.4  lib50  replied to  It Is ME @14.4.2    8 years ago
It was called a "Misspeak".

Since when do republicans care about lies?  If they accuse someone else of doing something, its good odds they do it themselves.  All this shit that has hit the fan since Trump became pres, and somehow this old bullshit (pales beside what has gone on with Trump and Comey).  So much crap with Trump, and you want to make us care about some old litigated bs?  And since you don't really care about lies (we would notice),  why should anybody else? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
14.4.7  It Is ME  replied to  lib50 @14.4.4    8 years ago
since you don't really care about lies (we would notice),

Since no one in politics really cares about lying, why should anyone else ?

It always just comes down to how good things are going for folks....lies and all. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
14.4.8  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @14.4.6    8 years ago
I don't think the topic was Republicans, but rather Democrats.

One can't talk about 'lies' and NOT talk about republicans.  Kindly address why you care about one party and not the other?   Why seed about this and go on others and defend Trump and other republicans who lie, far more, under oath and about far more timely and important things?  Because this seed is nothing more than deflection from what the Trump/gop is doing right now AND you defend them doing it! 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
14.4.10  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @14.4.9    8 years ago

And AGAIN.  You can't talk about lies and NOT TALK ABOUT TRUMP AND GOP.  You can't just ignore and pretend one side has a problem, that would make this entire seed a LIE.  So sick and tired of conservative gaslighting.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14.6  Jasper2529  replied to  cjcold @14    8 years ago
You do realize that there are inventions called telephones where they could have talked all day don't you? 

Excellent observation, cjcold.  

Now you need to explain why Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch didn't choose your easy (and obvious) option but instead arranged a clandestine meeting involving Secret Service detail on an airport tarmac where no reporters or photographers were allowed and then lied about its "spontaneity". 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
14.7  MrFrost  replied to  cjcold @14    8 years ago
You do realize that there are inventions called telephones where they could have talked all day don't you?

Exactly. Pretty obvious that Clinton and Lynch have been friends for a long time, but if they talk....Ho boy!!!! The conspiracy game is on. But then you have to remember that these people believed that the Clinton's were running a child sex ring out of a fucking pizza parlor basement, in downtown Manhattan....and the damn place didn't even have a basement. But some of these people bought it hook, line and sinker... Sad. But then these are the same people that now think the FBI are the bad guys, and Russia is the good guys. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
15  Sunshine    8 years ago
“Our conversation was a great deal about grandchildren…and he mentioned golf he played in Phoenix,” Lynch said at the time.

So, Clinton makes the entire airport diddle daddle around him to talk about golf and grand children.  Apparently Clinton played imaginary golf because no one can vouch for him.  Or is golf a code word for something else?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
15.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sunshine @15    8 years ago
So, Clinton makes the entire airport diddle daddle around him

reminds me of a 90s haircut at LAX......

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
15.3  Dulay  replied to  Sunshine @15    8 years ago
Or is golf a code word for something else?

Yes, for Trump it's code for work. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
16  devangelical    8 years ago
her destroyed government-issued phones, which she and her team smashed with hammers

That is why I have no respect for any rightwing LEO, gov't contractor, or past and present gov't employee that lets that statement fly here. If you are one of the aforementioned, you know why.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17  JohnRussell    8 years ago

It's a good thing that the nation's far right conspiracy nuts are zeroed in on this drivel. Maybe with their obsession on this they will leave the rest of us alone about the Trump investigations. 

Who needs another box of crayons? 

 
 

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