‘Full Trumpism’: The President’s Apocalyptic Attacks Reach A New Level Of Falsity
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This article is not an opinion piece. It is a news article of factual reporting from the Washington Post.
‘Full Trumpism’: The president’s apocalyptic attacks reach a new level of falsity
NOVEMBER 04, 2018
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. — President Trump is painting an astonishingly apocalyptic vision of America under Democratic control in the campaign’s final days, unleashing a torrent of falsehoods and portraying his political opponents as desiring crime, squalor and poverty.
As voters prepare to render their first verdict on his presidency in Tuesday’s midterm elections, Trump is claiming that Democrats want to erase the nation’s borders and provide sanctuary to drug dealers, human traffickers and MS-13 killers. He is warning that they would destroy the economy, obliterate Medicare and unleash a wave of violent crime that endangers families everywhere. And he is alleging that they would transform the United States into Venezuela with socialism run amok.
Trump has never been hemmed in by fact, fairness or even logic. The 45th president proudly refuses to apologize and routinely violates the norms of decorum that guided his predecessors. But at one mega-rally after another in the run-up to Tuesday’s midterm elections, Trump has taken his no-boundaries political ethos to a new level — demagoguing the Democrats in a whirl of distortion and using the power of the federal government to amplify his fantastical arguments.
In Columbia, Mo., the president suggested that Democrats “run around like antifa” demonstrators in black uniforms and black helmets, but underneath, they have “this weak little face” and “go back home into mommy’s basement.”
In Huntington, W.Va., Trump called predatory immigrants “the worst scum in the world” but alleged that Democrats welcome them by saying, “Fly right in, folks. Come on in. We don’t care who the hell you are, come on in!”
And in Macon, Ga., he charged that if Democrat Stacey Abrams is elected governor, she would take away the Second Amendment right to bear arms — though as a state official, she would not have the power to change the Constitution.
Unmoored from reality, Trump has at times become a false prophet, too. He has been promising a 10 percent tax cut for the middle class, though no such legislation exists. And he has sounded alarms over an imminent “invasion” of dangerous “illegal aliens,” referring to a caravan of Central American migrants that includes many women and children, is traveling by foot and is not expected to reach the U.S.-Mexico border for several weeks, if at all.
With his breathtaking cascade of orations, tweets, media appearances and presidential actions, Trump has dictated the terms of the political debate in the final week of the campaign even though he is not up for reelection for two years.
“He goes out and says crazy, horrible things, blows race whistles and sits back and watches his topic of craziness dominate cable TV for the next 24 hours,” said Republican strategist Mike Murphy, a Trump critic. “Everybody repeats his charge, and then there’s a lot of pearl-clutching and tsk-tsking, and then repeating it again.”
Trump’s omnipresence has frustrated Democrats, who are attempting to stay focused on their campaign messages of health care and other pocketbook issues.
“It’s really important not to take the bait from the president, with his scare-a-thon and his this-and-that,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in an interview this weekend. “That diverts people from what is really important in their lives and how this election will make a difference.”
Trump has had only one formative political experience: His 2016 race for president, which he won against odds by galvanizing his conservative base around nativist themes. Two years later, he is returning to the same playbook.
“This freneticism at the end . . . him ratcheting up to a new level of histrionics and fear, the question is, ‘Is there a point of diminishing returns?’ ” asked David Axelrod, who was former president Barack Obama’s chief strategist. “Do these tactics at once offend some people but also appear so fundamentally contrived that even some who are inclined to vote for Republicans say, you lost me here?”
“His gamble is that this will work,” Axelrod added. “Certainly the veracity doesn’t bother him, and the optics don’t bother him. The only thing that would bother him is losing.”
Trump is campaigning as if his presidency were on the line — and in a way, it is. Should Democrats win the House majority, as public polling suggests, they probably would use their subpoena power to launch investigations into the president and his behavior and, perhaps, begin impeachment proceedings.
“All his bad characteristics get amplified when he’s in a crunch,” Murphy said. “He doesn’t have any allegiance to the truth or reality to begin with, so he’s drunk on crowds, in a corner and under great political pressure.”
Trump’s campaign maneuvers — which Vice President Pence and many Republican candidates are reinforcing and defending — are not only rhetorical.
The president last week deployed thousands of U.S. troops to the border, ostensibly to protect the United States from the coming caravan, and has gloated on the stump about the “beautiful barbed wire” they have installed there. Several prominent former military leaders have denounced the deployment as a political stunt.
Trump has been fueling the baseless conspiracy theory that the caravan is being funded by George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist and Democratic mega-donor who was the target of a mail bomb last month. The same conspiracy theory allegedly motivated the suspect in the mass slaughter at a Pittsburgh synagogue eight days ago.
“They want to invite caravan after caravan, and it is a little suspicious how those caravans are starting, isn’t it?” Trump asked at a Saturday night rally in Pensacola, Fla. “Isn’t it a little? And I think it’s a good thing maybe that they did it. Did they energize our base or what?”
Trump also has floated the idea of signing an executive order to end birthright citizenship. Many legal experts argue he does not have that power because the 14th Amendment to the Constitution protects the right to citizenship for any child born in the United States.
“These ideas are mostly stunts that serve to act as a semaphore,” said Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law and a former chief speechwriter in the Clinton White House. “The executive order is flatly unconstitutional. The tax cut that is going to be passed by Election Day is nonexistent. And the generated panic over the caravan and sending up to 15,000 troops to the border is expensive political theater and not much more.”
Trump’s focus on immigration and nationalist appeals is part of a strategy to counter high voter enthusiasm on the left by mobilizing all of his 2016 supporters to turn out for other Republicans. As Pence says in his stump speech, “That blue wave is going to hit a red wall.”
“Their calculus is that every voter that surged for Trump is a Trump person first and foremost and not a DeSantis person or Scott person, so they’re leaning in on full Trumpism,” Steven Schale, a Florida-based Democratic operative, referring to the state’s GOP candidates for governor and Senate, respectively.
At his Saturday rally in Belgrade, Mont., Trump told a cheering crowd, without a hint of irony, “I’m the only one that tells you the facts.”
But Trump’s flood of misinformation has swelled to epic proportions in recent weeks, according to an analysis by The Washington Post’s Fact Checker . In the seven weeks leading up to the election, the president made 1,419 false or misleading claims, an average of 30 a day. That compares with 1,318 false or misleading claims during the first nine months of his presidency, an average of five a day.
Each of Trump’s rallies usually yields 35 to 45 suspect claims, which he has repeated in media appearances, according to The Fact Checker analysis.
Trump’s supporters say they don’t much care about the falsehood meter. At his rally Wednesday in Estero, Fla., one Trump fan after another explained away the president’s disregard for the truth.
Hope Heisler, an emergency room doctor: “I’m not a fact-checker. All of the candidates, whether they be Republican or Democrat, don’t say things completely accurately all the time. But I trust in President Trump.”
Linda Sears, a housewife: “Presidents should tell the truth, but sometimes they make mistakes. . . . At least Trump tells it like it is. Trump is a truth teller.”
Pat Banker, a retired registered nurse: “I don’t think he lies. He gets excited when he’s talking, and he likes to exaggerate a little bit. But that’s just his way.”
Trump has never had much of an appetite for nuance, and he has been framing the choice before voters on Tuesday in terms of black and white, right and wrong.
“This election is a choice between Republican results and radical resistance,” Trump told a rally crowd Thursday in Columbia, Mo. “It’s a choice between greatness and gridlock. It’s a choice between jobs and mobs. And it’s a choice between an economy that is going strong and the Democrats who are going crazy.”
When it comes to assailing Democrats, Trump — who for years was a registered Democrat — has adopted a kitchen-sink strategy. On Friday night in Indianapolis, he told thousands of red-capped supporters, “If Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and the legendary Maxine Waters, if they take power, they will try to erase our gains and eradicate our progress.
“The Democrats want to raise your taxes. They want to restore job-killing regulations. They want to shut down your steel mills. And that will happen.”
He kept going.
“They want to take away your real health care and use socialism to turn America into Venezuela,” Trump continued. “Lovely place, lovely place. And Democrats want to totally open borders.”
The crowd reacted, just on cue, with loud boos.
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We have a president* who is unmoored from reality.
What will his "deplorables" do?
It is interesting that this WAPO article is not by a columnist or editorial writer. Philip Rucker is a REPORTER. He is required by journalistic ethics to be accurate and truthful. The newspaper is presenting it's picture of Trump "unmoored from reality" as FACT, not conjecture.
Of course, they have all the evidence on their side.
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Oct 17, 2018 · Philip Rucker is the White House Bureau Chief for The Washington Post . He previously has covered Congress, the Obama White House, and the 2012 and 2016 presidential campaigns.
You doin the bla bla bla thing there Tex
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Some people love to embarrass themselves with ridiculous comments.
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lol. The religious right has chimed in.
I know the truth hurts pastor, but don't despair. Redemption is always available for the deplorables. We are a forgiving nation.
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Rucker is a leftist liar
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I can't help but think back at what would have happened if I tried to spew that BS as a kid.
I was excited so I LIED.
I like to exaggerate a little bit.
It's just the way I roll...
My mother would have cracked me upside the head and grounded me forthwith. I would have ended up scrubbing floors, walls and whatever other horrors she could think up for at least a week.
I can't help but wonder how parents explain to their kids that Trump's lying is fine because he's somehow 'special'.
It can't be denied that the former 'moral majority' is now morally bankrupt.
A reporter can still write opinion pieces. This is in reality an opinion piece as it is using opinions of political pundits as the basis for the "hard" reporting. Someone opines that an Executive Order regarding "Birthright citizenship" to a child born of illegal immigrants is unconstitutional, when the US Supreme Court has made NO SUCH ruling. The only rulings regarding "birthright citizenship" have been regarding LEGAL residents and naturalized citizens and their children as they meet the requirements listed in Section 1:
As you can see the conditions are: Born or naturalized in the United States AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF. An illegal immigrant is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States as they are not present legally. Therefore, it can be argued that the child is not a citizen due to that little tidbit.
That makes zero sense. Are you saying anyone that is undocumented is not subject to US or state laws?
This might be the funniest thing on the internet today.
ESTERO, Fla. – Last Wednesday afternoon was typical for Donald Trump over these past weeks: The president was en route to a rally where he would let loose a torrent of falsehoods and outright lies about everything from trade to immigration to even the name of the opposing party.
Just don’t bother telling that to the lady who wore the New England Patriots socks at the very front of the line to get into Hertz Arena on the outskirts of Fort Myers. Presented with a short list of Trump’s most frequent falsehoods, she countered with a homemade placard with a photo showing Louis Farrakhan with former Democratic President Barack Obama and demanded to know why the media wasn’t covering that.
She added that she was not interested in whether or how many times Trump might lie that evening. “I don’t care if he sprouts a third dick up there,” she said.
(She declined to give her name or to elaborate on her views of the president’s anatomy.)
Her response, though, was typical of fans so committed to Trump that they take time off from work and spend hours in the rain or under a blazing sun to listen to his speeches. And it highlights the other half of the president’s destruction of the truth: As Trump has passed through the looking glass into a make-pretend world of invented facts, legions of his fans have happily followed him.
Jennifer Petito, who drove across the state from Melbourne to see Trump, was similarly dismissive of proof that Trump’s claims are false.
“I don’t believe that,” she said, joining in with the verbal assault on HuffPost for daring to challenge Trump’s version of reality. “I don’t believe he would lie like that.”
Tom Nichols, a professor at the Naval War College and the author of the recent book, “The Death of Expertise,” said the Trump supporters’ response does not surprise him in the least.
“There are a lot of scientific explanations for it, but most of them boil down to ‘shooting the messenger.’ Deep down, they know that these things are false. They don’t care,” Nichols said. “What they object to is the sense of inferiority created when someone tells them that the things they know to be false are actually false.”
As those monitoring Trump’s speeches even casually have noted, Trump began ramping up dishonesties in service of GOP candidates about two months ago. The Washington Post found that Trump’s more frequent speeches combined with more prevarications per speech have raised his average number of false statements per day to 30 – making these past seven weeks a veritable festival of falsehoods.
Trump supporters’ efforts to defend these untruths often put them in the position of denying the existence of any objective truth at all. Everything becomes a matter of opinion or perspective.
Four days later and 600 miles northwest awaiting Trump’s rally at Pensacola airport, Gene Ponder, a high school government and politics teacher in Daphne, Alabama, wound up arguing that there was no real difference between having built a wall and falsely claiming to have built one .
“It’s a matter of semantics,” he said, and pointed out that falsely claiming to have built a wall was an effective campaign tool. “It’s wonderful campaigning for the Republican Party in congressional seats around the country, to stimulate the base.”
To be among the first handful of attendees to get into the Fort Myers hockey arena, Virginia Alonso drove across Alligator Alley from Fort Lauderdale the previous afternoon. She and a friend slept in lawn chairs under the stars, and a few hours before the start of the rally were in place right outside the entry doors.
With only a short time left before the doors were opened, the Cuban-American retiree was in little mood to hear about Trump’s falsehoods. She regarded the single page HuffPost had asked her to review with suspicion.
While Trump typically has been putting out many dozens of falsehoods and exaggerations per hour-long rally, HuffPost curated five with which to interview rally-goers: 1) Trump has received nearly $5 billion already to build his wall; 2) military veterans got the ability to see private doctors in the event of long waiting lists thanks to Trump; 3) his recent $716 billion military budget is the largest ever; 4) U.S. Steel is opening as many as eight new plants thanks to Trump’s tariffs; 5) and the real name of the Democratic Party is the “Democrat” Party.
All five are flatly untrue and easily disproven. In reality, Trump has received zero funding from Congress for wall construction; veterans received that choice under President Obama; the largest recent military budget was also under Obama; U.S. Steel is opening zero new plants; and the real name of the Democratic Party is, in fact, the Democratic Party.
“Why should I believe you?” Alonso said. “I don’t believe you.”
Others near the entrance doors who had likewise spent a chilly night and then a steamy, hot afternoon outside so that they could get in first were similarly outraged by HuffPost’s list.
“He doesn’t like fake news. Why would he say things that are not true?” asked Barbara Guzman, who owns a label-making business in nearby Cape Coral. “Most of the things he says I agree with, and I believe.”
Further back in line, even those who had invested far less of their time to see Trump were just as defensive.
One man who would not give his name said HuffPost’s list of falsehoods was unfair because it had only five items and because it did not contain an equal number of good things Trump had done.
“This is fake news!” he shouted, repeating the line Trump regularly uses to describe reporting that does not flatter him.
Marie Brausan, who lives in the Chicago suburbs but winters in Fort Myers, said if the news media didn’t like Trump’s words, it was their own fault for criticizing him all the time rather than giving him positive feedback, as a parent does with a toddler.
“Of course I want him to be truthful and honest,” she said, but added: “The bottom line is he is not a politician, he is doing what he said he’d do, and I trust him.”
Most of those approached by HuffPost at Trump’s second Florida rally in four days in Pensacola Saturday had similar reactions.
“He does what he says he’s going to do,” said a Penscola woman who would only give her first name, Diane. But after learning that Trump had not, as he has claimed, started building a wall, she said that it didn’t really matter. “No, it doesn’t bother me, because he’s going to make everything balance out in the end.”
Rick Wilson, the author of the recent “Everything Trump Touches Dies” and a longtime GOP consultant in Florida who opposed Trump from the start, said the president’s supporters are the victims of a con artist.
“Once a con man cons somebody, there is a bias among the marks not to admit that they’re that stupid,” he said. “In this particular one, they want it to go on and on. They love it.”
Nichols, also a Trump critic, said that the gulf between what supporters believed Trump would bring and what he has actually delivered is clearly causing mental anguish for them. “When you start from the assumption that they know they’re wrong, and how the immensity of the cognitive dissonance makes them deeply uncomfortable, the rest of their reactions start to make a lot more sense,” he said.
That cognitive dissonance was visible among some Trump supporters who seemed disappointed at learning the facts belying Trump’s claims. Yet even those who told HuffPost that they are troubled by his falsehoods almost always found some mitigating factor to excuse them. Hillary Clinton. Democrats generally. The Bernie Sanders supporter who opened fire at a congressional Republicans’ baseball practice. Planned Parenthood.
In Pensacola, retired Defense Department project manager Armando Hernandez shrugged off Trump’s falsehoods entirely. “Well, a lot of people believe him,” he said of Trump, and then unloaded on Democrats. “Democrats say whatever they want to say, even if it’s false. The last Democrat I voted for was Jimmy Carter and that was the worst mistake I ever made.”
Denny Elkins, a technician with the local Glass Doctor franchise, said he couldn’t explain why Trump felt compelled to lie so much but that, in the end, it wasn’t important. “I’m more comforted having him as president, even if he doesn’t tell all the truth all of the time,” he said. “It makes me ill to think that Hillary could have been president. In my opinion, you can’t trust a thing she says.”
Back in Estero, retired economist Tom Walton said that Trump’s advanced age might factor into all his untruths – the way Ronald Reagan’s dementia was affecting his words and decisions in his second term. Like many others, Walton, who is 73, said that the strength of the economy and Trump’s appointments to the Supreme Court and efforts to roll back business regulations outweighed his negatives.
“It doesn’t bother me. No one’s got a perfect memory,” Walton said of Trump’s propensity for falsehoods. “He’s got a lot on his mind.”
One 75-year-old woman who declined to give her name said she supported Trump because Obama had doubled the national debt in his two terms in office. But when it was pointed out that Trump was on track to have $1 trillion annual deficits during a strong economy, she demanded to know why the media has not covered that. She added that she watches Fox News religiously and had not seen that mentioned.
One rally-goer who attended more out of curiosity than adoration for Trump, though, said the falsehoods of what he had accomplished could come back to bite Trump – particularly regarding his singular promise from the 2016 campaign, that he would build a wall along the border with Mexico.
“If in another year or so there hasn’t been a wall started, he’s going to have a big problem,” said Phil Deems, a commercial real estate broker in Naples, who added that that could serve as a consequence for all the dishonesties. “It kind of fixes itself.”
In the meantime, however, Deems’ point of view appears to be in an exceedingly small minority among the universe of Trump supporters.
Virginia Alonso, walking out of the arena after hearing Trump repeat four of the five falsehoods on HuffPost’s list that evening, said the day-and-a-half wait to see him had been worth it.
“I loved it,” she said.
For three years people have been complaining that I complain too much about Trump supporters.
I don't think I and others have complained enough. Trumpsters are the worst people in America, as a group, without a doubt. They have enabled this travesty of trumpism and the Trump presidency that have befallen our beloved nation. It is like a biblical plague of locusts or something, lol.
Donald Trump is no more qualified to be president of the United States than you are, and probably less, because I doubt if you lie anywhere near as much as he does.
No one has complained enough about Trump, because he is still there.
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It does when taking into account the wording of an English common law case cited in United States v. Wong Kim Ark:
The key phrase is "aliens of amity". This refers to people subjecting themselves to the law of the land where they reside and therefore are there legally despite being foreigners as they are there on a friendly basis. Illegal aliens/illegal immigrants are violating the immigration laws and therefore are not subjecting themselves to the laws of the land where they plan to reside. In fact, part of the problem we have with illegal immigration is that those seeking asylum are given a court date...and NEVER SHOW UP. That means they do not care about the law and will not subject themselves to such law and therefore are not "aliens in amity".
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So, epistte is quoting from a book she claims does not exist?
Makes sense
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Read it again. It says specifically that people born from alien parents are citizens.
E.A see what was erroneously said about Judge Ho, and " Chinese and Gypsies " add that to the above " his father being an alien enemy "
And what one has is that at TIMES some people might be deemed to be " Stateless " and hence under NO Jurisdiction, in such cases!
epistte has never claimed that the Bible does not exist.
I think you really need to reread the link you provided, because you overlooked the interpretation that was given to English common law by the Justives:
This was part of Justice Gray's majority opinion from
There are undocumented people that live, have a residence and work in the country. Their children would be considered citizens according to the law.
You seem to be stuck on the word amity. Most people that come here are not hostile towards the country. Quite the opposite I would say.
Pretty much a guarantee that they're going to vote for whoever is the most fascist and the most authoritarian.
Tom, it sounds like all the effort a few days ago was entirely wasted on you.....you still don't grasp the plain language of the 14th Amendment or the Wong Kim Ark ruling.
The Wong Kim Ark ruling was regarding someone legally residing in the USA. That seems to be the context you who are in favor of birthright citizenship seem to forget. The point is that those who are here illegally are not subjecting themselves to our laws or jurisdiction as shown by them not showing up for asylum court dates, committing hit and run accidents, not being insured, etc., etc.
Being stuck on the word amity is actually the entire point. They are friendly IF they subject themselves to our laws. The moment they fail to show up for an asylum case, they are no longer friendly and are not an alien of amity. And, you are trying to muddy the water by calling them undocumented. That means they are not following the law, and therefore are not an alien of amity. They are not friendly, they are not under the jurisdiction of the USA, and they and you know it.
I see the right wingers have hacked the - button
Irrelevant. All that mattered was that Ark's parents did not have diplomatic immunity.
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That's just blithering nonsense which reveals that you don't understand what US jurisdiction actually means. It doesn't matter one bit if a person is a criminal or chooses to ignore US law.
What you're pushing is far right wing fringe stuff which has no legal merit whatsoever. It's just a nutty fantasy of xenophobes who are constitutionally illiterate.
And yet he ignores those ethics and writes a highly partisan opinion piece. That's one of the things that's so sad about the current state of journalism.
Rucker lists some of Trump's unmoorings. It is not difficult to conclude that Trump makes statements, often, that are disconnected from reality. That would make it a fact, not an opinion.
You're still on the Obama loses seats meme. Well, here's the opposite side of the ledger. During Trump's first year, 91 seats switched from Republican to Democrat. This was a record for first year presidents. But the real news here is that this election had 372 seats in government switch during the election to go along with the 91 from 2017 and another 32 that switched earlier in the year. This is a total of 495 seats that switched in the Trump administration's first two years. Projecting this out over an 8 year term {Heaven forbid} we are looking at 1980 seats to be lost. That figure would dwarf the losses during the Obama administration.
What do you think the Republicans will learn from this election. It is probable that many of them are thinking about breaking with the president and forming coalitions with Democrats. It may be the best thing that comes out of the entire Trump administration.
just peace loving women and children right John?
The Mexican Govt says these invaders entered violently
Here we see trucks hauling the caravan and it's mostly young males
WHAT US Trucking Company? Name please.
I don't know and don't care. What matters is that they AREN'T walking and it isn't mostly women and children
This claim is a blatant lie. San Javier trucking is HQed in Mexico.
The US DOT number only means that they are permitted to cross the US border and deliver the trailer to a US depot before heading south again.
Did you forget how the Bible instructs Christians to treat immigrants? Christian conservatives love to cite Leviticus, until it disagrees with their discriminatory beliefs.
So the stated purpose of your video doesn't matter. Got ya.
BTW, who claimed that it WAS mostly women and children. Please link the comment.
WTF is it with you and FACTS epistte? /s
BTW, I knew that...Trap sprung.
I calculate that these homeless refugees should arrive "looking for a room at the inn" just in time for the annual war on xmas claims by hypocritical thumpers that support a buffoon in DC.
Did you see that meme going around Facebook?
1. I posted that to show the immigrant's are not walking. I could care less about the trucking company tag
2. You quote Leviticus which is an instruction for Jews, not Christians. And we certainly are responsible to care for those who are immigrants.
BUT NOT INVADERS
Are sheep native to Jerusalem?
Correct. After all, did not the oppressed walk their way out of Egypt? There weren't any trucks for them to hitch a ride on. And trucks paid for by Pelosi, Obama, Clinton and Soros. The audacity of it all.
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You posted a video that said that there are US truck fleets bringing them to the US. I proved that claim was a bold lie. Most of them are walking, so why does it matter that some are taking advantage of wheeled transport? Would you feel different if they were riding an ass, like Mary and Joseph did?
Don't try to be intellectually dishonest. They are not invaders, any more than the Jews running to Egypt were when they faced persecution. Lying is a sin according to the 10 Commandments, or does that only apply to others? Or maybe that now doesn't apply because it is also in the Old Testament.......
Does this mean that you won't cite Leviticus when you claim that being LGBT is sinful to Christian views and that the Earth is 6000 years old, or is this claim a one-time exemption? You previously said that Matthew 25:40 was meant to describe how Christians were supposed to treat others in regard to charity, so does that also not apply in this instance?
Why does it seem that you, like other religious conservatives, are the least like Christ's teachings because you are always looking for an exemption when you are required to treat others as equals? It's almost as if hypocrisy is a sacrament.
They are illegal immigrants from Mesopotamia. Send those fluffy things back to where they belong before the minds of native men are corrupted.
Ha. In the meme, that would only leave a jackass.
1. I have never quoted Leviticus when discussing the sin of homosexual behavior. I quote Jesus and the Apostles
2. When a horde of 1000s breaks down border crossings while throwing rocks at the police and border security and while displaying their national flag in front of them, then they are an invasion force
3. I'm not a young earth creationist. There is no conflict with the book of Genesis and the earth being at approx 5 billion years old.
4. Matthew 25 says we are to extend care to the needy. I've been doing so for 30 years and the ministry I'm with helps the needy every week here in the US and throughout the world. That is not the same as what you marxists call for which the unbiblical compulsory charity through forcibly seizing the earnings of others to redistribute them and in this case to give it to people who break our laws and invade our country.
If they were invaders they would have weapons.
Does the preacher believe the POSSIBILITY of a few stones constitutes weaponry against the US military?
This whole "invader" bs is beyond ridiculous, in other words Trumpism.
Jesus never taught his followers to hate LGBT. He said that you are not to judge others.
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Thumping on a podium is not the same as caring for others. We are to care for others as ourselves.
Jesus told his followers to pay taxes and not to seek wealth. I am not aware of the Ayn Rand translation of the Bible. Got a link?
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Religious leaders are denouning Trump's xenophobia. Hispanic people are almost always Christian and many are Catholic.
These people are fleeing central America for the same reason that Jews ran to Egypt. They are not a drain on the economy, despite Trump's xenophobic claims.
E.A John, want to have a sensible discussion with ME, about " weapons "?
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Our care is not "thumping from a podium". We feed tens of thousands every week. We help native american reservations to build better communities. We help villages in Africa build wells and schools. We ship relief supplies world wide. After Hurricane Katrina we did what we do and sent a truck with relief supplies including medicine, vitamins, blankets, clothing, and a triage team of doctors and nurses to help
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You can make any comment you want about "weapons" . If i decide you are making any sense I might answer you.
Tell that to the family of Border Agent Rogelio Rodriguez who was killed by a border rock thrower last November
Tell that to the Mexican police who were injured at the Guatemala border by these invaders
Tell that to the Israelis who are killed and injured by Arab terrorists every week
Mexico's Interior Secretary said that the caravan had thrown not just rocks but Molotov Cocktails at Police
E.A I am not interested on " Any " So lets start simple::
Tell me to a Person that wants to commit a " crime " shall we say or any act, that they need a " tool " does one have to have it with them, or can it be " made on site "?
There's no such thing as sin, Big Bird. Sorry, I feel compelled to hit you with reality once in awhile, even though it always just bounces off!
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If these people were actually Christians, they wouldn't be engaged in this illegal action of trying to illegally enter countries they are not legally allowed to live in. Nor would they break down border crossing fences and throws rocks and bottles at authorities
For the Lord’s sake, accept the decrees and laws of all the various human institutions, whether they come from the highest human ruler 14 or agents he sends to punish those who do wrong and to reward those who do well. 15 You see, it is God’s will that by doing what is right and good you should hush the gabbing ignorance of the foolish. 16 Live as those who are free and not as those who use their freedom as a pretext for evil, but live as God’s servants 1 Peter 2:13-16
E.A If I May::
God Evolution, their god also has " sin " see how that is and how impossible " evolution of the FITTEST would have been had it not!" !!
What God?
E.A No Response, must have been a really really hard question!
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First of all I despise using UK trash papers as a legitimate source for American news. Having said that, you should probably retract this inaccurate tall tale and stop spreading it anywhere...
The FBI declared it an accident in February of 2018 based on a lack of evidence - there were no other foot prints, other than the 2 agents - no sign of a scuffle, nothing stolen, etc. It was an unfortunate accident.
And for the sake of his family let's get his name correct, Rogelio Martinez...
According to your own mythology neither Jesus or any of the apostles ever said anything on the matter. The only one who did was Paul and he wasn't an apostle, heck, he never even met this supposed Jesus when he was alive and he preached a very different ideology. No wonder you're a Paulist rather than a Christian, Larry.
I saw that a few years ago on NV. Accurate for trumpmerica.
Good Lord, what a stretch you have to hid bigotry
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Can we flag trmp with a CoC violation? I like sweeping generalization for this guy.
This woman is scary. I think she was the one who set my ankle when I broke it. It might explain why it didn't heal properly:
How can you trust a doctor who doesn't check facts?
We trust Trump because his ACTIONS have been good for America and Americans compared to the destruction by Hussein Obama and the Democrats
How is golfing 3 times a week good for America?
His policy actions, legislation signed, most Federal Court Judges, 2 Supreme Court Justices.
You go ahead and keep supporting the man who lies with every breath he takes
Every politician, right or left lies whenever they open their mouths.
I don't care about his lies as long as he continues with his policies and other executive actions. he's been the best president policy and actionwise in 90 years.
So the preacher supports the politician that breaks a Commandment multiple times on a daily basis. Thanks for clarifying your values.
But lying is a sin, Pastor.
If nobody lied the pastor would be out of business, lol.
I wonder if Trump would allow our good pastor here to lay hands on him?
Notice the rogue's gallery in that scene , lol.
Pence, Cohen, Trump, Omarosa
not enough prayers in the world to save that gang
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Since there are no honest politicians that I'm aware of, I focus on their actions and not their words. I wish no politician lied, but all of them do lie and lie daily
So liars don't bother you but women, gays and transgender folks must be subjected to your sect's twisted sharia laws, right?
That's a LIE.
The right wingers even cheated and lies for all those things yet your ignorant party continually back all this:
Then do not ever preach at me or quote scripture at me ever again.
I'm an independent since I left the GOP in 1970 because they are too far to the left
out of context response on your part. I'd rather that no politician lie, but since they all do I'm left with relying upon their ACTIONS and not their words.
i've been involved in watching and engaging politically for 60 years and I've yet to find any politician that doesn't lie all the time.
Name me a politician who doesn't
There are a lot of politicians that don't lie 'all the time'' and don't 'lie daily'.
Peter Visclosky for one...
Which proves that he 'lies all the time' and/or 'lies daily' HOW?
BTFW, at least one of the people on that CREW list has been DEAD for 8 years. Got anything from THIS decade?
According to conservative logic, a fetus is a person with rights but an immigrant isn't.
Trump's multiple affairs aren't public policy but LGBT marriage is public policy.
How can Republicans be too far to the left when you claim to support the Constitution party?
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E.A Ahh Look nothing so far from one that always " Jumped in First " I wonder why?
Right because the MEANING of words is so irrelevant when communicating exclusively in the written word. /s
The question wasn't predicated by the word 'honest' BF. Pete Visclosky neither 'lies all the time' or 'lies daily'.
How about WoW, I should READ MORE CAREFULLY.
Again, I did not cite him as honest.
The only reason you try to besmirch both sources is the fact that your bias doesn't let you even think that you have no clue about what you comment other than you don't like the facts
You mean like McConnell, steve king, and the other republican slugs
Fear is what he runs on and the gullible eat it up.
It is always someone out to get them. Someone out to ruin their way of life. Someone out to cause them harm.
Must be a horrible way to live thinking a boogie man is around every corner.
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Ah, deflection. A tool for having no counter argument.
What do you call it when politicians and the media call the president Hitler and Stalin for 2+ years? What do you call it when they keep saying an insane president has his finger on the nuclear button? What do you call it when they say a Supreme Court nominee is going to cause the deaths of thousands of women or that whole swaths of the population will lose the right to vote?
A very accurate analogy.
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A good warning.
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A fair prediction, and good reporting.
I don't care if you agree with it or not. You still want people to be afraid of Trump and other Republicans. Democrats are hypocrites when they criticize Trump for "running on fear."
Article is misleading. The Trump has not reached or exceeded a zenith in lying. He is exactly in the same place he always was, except now since he has somehow ( with Russian help ) became the POS in the WH his coverage has increased 1000%.
"This article is not an opinion piece. It is a news article of factual reporting from the Washington Post."
The Washington Post:
"Hillary Clinton has enough electoral votes to win the White House in final Fix map !"
Sure .…….. it's "Factual" !
Sure, that's sounds like objective reporting.
And why not? Have you seen San Francisco? and other big cities long-controlled by Democrats?
Well, there's Keith Ellison rocking the "I don't believe in borders" in shirt:
San Francisco is registering illegal aliens to vote in some elections , and so does College Park, Maryland , and several other progressive cities. California and other places run by Democrats distribute driver licenses to them. Progressive sanctuary cities refuse to cooperate with ICE and their mission of catching and deporting illegal aliens - not because they don't have the time or resources, but because they object to deporting such people. In fact, multiple elected Democrats have said publicly they want to abolish ICE . If you're going to extend the benefits of citizenship to people who don't even have permission to be in the country, it makes the border meaningless whether you say so explicitly and out loud or not.
They are. That's the effect of sanctuary policies. If progressives find the accusation unsavory, maybe they should stop allowing illegal alien criminals to roam the streets. It's real simple. When they're about to get out of jail, just call ICE. Oh wait, you want to abolish ICE. Case closed.
And that's outrageous? Beyond the pale? Several politicians and pundits predicted the stock market would crash immediately when Trump was elected. It's hard to be more wrong than they were. Meanwhile the economy is actually doing pretty well, at least in part - according to economic experts - because of Trump.
Trump's right: The economy is doing well and he deserves some credit
Love Him Or Hate Him, Trump Deserves Credit For Booming Economy
Democrats are vowing to undo his good work. Sounds like they're trying to destroy the progress we have made, so there is some truth to that claim.
Good, because the GOP sure as hell isn't going to stop him.
At least we got you to admit that Trump was telling the truth. Welcome to the club.