8 dead in series of Atlanta-area massage parlors shootings, suspect arrested

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  one month ago  •  148 comments

By:   Phil Helsel

8 dead in series of Atlanta-area massage parlors shootings, suspect arrested
Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed Tuesday in a series of shootings at Atlanta-area massage parlors, Georgia officials said.

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A man captured in Georgia on Tuesday night is suspected in three shootings at Atlanta-area massage parlors or spas that killed eight people, officials said.

Four people were killed in Cherokee County, north of Atlanta, around 5 p.m., and four women died in two shootings in Atlanta less than an hour later, authorities said. The four killed in Atlanta appeared to be Asian women, as were two of the victims in the Acworth community of Cherokee County, officials said.

The Cherokee Sheriff's Office did not provide additional details or identifying information about the other victims.

Officials have not disclosed a suspected motive.

Robert Aaron Long, 21, was arrested, Cherokee County sheriff's Capt. Jay Baker said.

Atlanta police said Tuesday night that the suspect in the city's two shootings is likely the same as Cherokee County's and that an investigator was working to confirm that the cases are related.

Cherokee County deputies discovered two people dead and three others wounded at the massage parlor in the Acworth community, Baker said. The injured were taken to a hospital, where two of them later died, he said.

Law enforcement officials confer outside a massage parlor following a shooting, in Atlanta, on March 16, 2021.Brynn Anderson / AP

About 45 minutes later and 30 miles away, police in Atlanta responded to a report of a robbery on Piedmont Road in the northeast part of the city.

Officials discovered three women dead from apparent gunshot wounds, and while on scene, received a call of shots fired across the street, where a woman was found dead inside that business, Atlanta police said.

Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant described one location as a spa, and another as an aromatherapy spa.

After the Cherokee County shooting, the sheriff's office released photos of a suspect.

Long, who lives in an unincorporated part of Cherokee County, was arrested in Crisp County, which is about 125 miles south of Atlanta, officials said.

The suspect vehicle was spotted southbound on I-75, and a Georgia State Patrol trooper used a PIT maneuver, which is a move in which a police vehicle is used to physically stop another vehicle, the Crisp County Sheriff's Office said.

Bryant, the Atlanta police chief, said that police were reviewing video. He said earlier Tuesday it was too soon to know what motivated the killings.

"We are in the very early stages of this," Bryant said.

While a motive has not been disclosed if one is known, because the shootings were all at massage parlors and spas, Atlanta police said officers were dispatched to similar businesses, and that patrols were increased.

In New York City, police were deploying counterterrorism officers to Asian communities out of an abundance of caution, a department spokesperson said.

"Our entire family is praying for the victims of these horrific acts of violence," Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp tweeted, adding his appreciation for the quick apprehension by law enforcement.

After the slayings, U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock, D-Ga., said he was praying for the vicitms' families and community. "My heart is broken tonight after the tragic violence in Atlanta that took eight lives. Once again we see that hate is deadly. Praying for the families of the victims and for peace for the community," he tweeted.

Baker, the Cherokee County captain, said deadly violence was rare for the area.

"This is not very common for us," he said. "In 2020, we had one homicide."


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GaJenn78
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1  GaJenn78    one month ago

I live and work very close to there. I had just passed by there on my way home from work before it happened. Very scary and sad 😢

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  GaJenn78 @1    one month ago

The article points out that deadly violence was rare for the area. We all hate seeing this stuff happen.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

Yet you asked another poster on another seed to point out any instances of violence or threats or anything like that against Asian Americans?  Didn't believe it was happening?  While it's happening everywhere?  We all know who to thank for this also.

Celebrities Slam Anti-Asian Hate Speech, Trump After Massage Spas Killings

Lee Moran
· Reporter, HuffPost
Wed, March 17, 2021, 5:10 AM EDT
Asian American celebrities led the condemnation of anti-Asian rhetoric following the killing of eight people  at massage spas in the Atlanta area on Tuesday.

Six women of Asian descent were shot dead in three attacks. A 21-year-old man was   arrested and police said they believed he was the shooter.

Olivia Munn, George Takei, Jeremy Lin, Lulu Wang, Jimmy Wong, Eugene Lee Yang and others called out hate speech directed at Asian Americans ― which has  soared during the coronavirus pandemic  ― and ex-President Donald Trump’s use of racial slurs to describe COVID-19.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    one month ago
Yet you asked another poster on another seed to point out any instances of violence or threats or anything like that against Asian Americans? 

First of all Tess this article clearly states: 

Officials have not disclosed a suspected motive.


Second, I had previously asked who is doing it?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    one month ago

May have had a problem with "massage" parlors to begin with. We've witnessed some whackjobs who do this kind of thing in other venues. But let's jump to conclusions. It's easier...................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.3    one month ago

I'm guessing "insanity" will be the plea.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    one month ago
"insanity" will be the plea.

So he's a liberal?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    one month ago

This scumbag turd has a love of 'god and guns'.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    one month ago

No, another right wing domestic terrorist.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    one month ago

the cops made him take off his maga hat for the mugshot.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.1.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    one month ago

And naturally the bodies aren’t even cold before you try to make it political. [deleted]

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.10  GaJenn78  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

Yea, it is.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.11  GaJenn78  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.3    one month ago

Here, locally, things are still being updated. As of about an hour ago, local news said he was a customer at these places

 
 
 
zuksam
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1.1.13  zuksam  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

Turns out it wasn't racial at all, he's a sex addict and a customer who was trying to eliminate the temptation. He's a wackadoo who was addicted to handjobs. Good thing they caught him as he was headed to Florida to take out more "Spa's".

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.14  bugsy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @1.1.9    one month ago
And naturally the bodies aren’t even cold before you try to make it political

I looked around to see where you made the same comment about 1.1.6, but I don't see it. Could you please direct me to where you posted your response?

Never mind. We know you never did.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @1.1.14    one month ago

You were the very first person to bring politics into this thread.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.1.16  Thrawn 31  replied to  bugsy @1.1.14    one month ago

Nope, you made the first one dragging politics into the conversation [Deleted]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  zuksam @1.1.13    one month ago

Amen.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.19  bugsy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @1.1.16    one month ago
Nope, you made the first one dragging politics into the conversation

Doesn't matter what I did "first". The fact remains that one of your friends did the same exact thing, and you made no comment concerning that.

I simply made an observation, and of you don't like the explanation,.......too bad.,

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.15    one month ago

My 1.1.19 applies to you too.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.21  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    one month ago
No, another right wing domestic terrorist.

So, anyone that kills more than two people qualifies as a right-wing terrorist in your mind?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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1.1.22  MonsterMash  replied to  Thrawn 31 @1.1.16    one month ago
Nope, you made the first one dragging politics into the conversation/
Nope, as usual, Tess was the first one to bring politics into the conversation

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  zuksam @1.1.13    one month ago
Turns out it wasn't racial at all, he's a sex addict and a customer who was trying to eliminate the temptation. He's a wackadoo who was addicted to handjobs.

So Just Jim was right, he is a "whackjob" who liked to "jump to conclusions"...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    one month ago

DON'T TELL ME THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.8    one month ago

The poor little inbred scumbag was probably famished too after murdering all those Asian women.  They probably stopped off at Burger King before they booked the little inbred.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.26  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.24    one month ago
DON'T TELL ME THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM!

WHITE PEOPLE WERE KILLED, ALSO. UNLESS YOU THINK THOSE WHITE PEOPLE WERE SIMPLY COLLATERAL DAMAGE FOR YOUR BULLSHIT NARRATIVE, THIS HAD NOTING TO DO WITH RACE!!!

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.1.27  Veronica  replied to  bugsy @1.1.26    one month ago

Does it have something to do with gender? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Veronica @1.1.27    one month ago

Don't think so.........

Elcias Hernandez-Ortiz

Hernandez-Ortiz was shot in the forehead and the bullet traveled down into his lungs and into his stomach, his wife Flora Gonzalez Gomez said on   GoFundMe . He is now in the intensive care unit in the hospital, she said.

According to Yoseline, doctors told his family he was very lucky to have survived. "He is a really good dad," she said. "I don't want him to go."

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.1.29  Veronica  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.28    one month ago

One out of nine.  So nothing to do with gender at all.  AND his wife said in the article i read - HE was not the intended target".

She said she did not believe he was an intended target of the gunman.
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @1.1.20    one month ago

meh. [Deleted]

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @1.1.26    one month ago

"THIS HAD NOTING TO DO WITH RACE!!!"

OF COURSE IT DOES!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.30    one month ago
"meh Removed for context - sandy
 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.33  pat wilson  replied to  bugsy @1.1.26    one month ago

Can't you make the font bigger ? That will make your words more true you know.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.34  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.30    one month ago

[Deleted.]  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.35  bugsy  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.33    one month ago
Can't you make the font bigger ? That will make your words more true you know.

HMMM...two posts just above mine (posted before mine) has the exact same font, but you failed to post your same response to that. I wonder why s/

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.36  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @1.1.34    one month ago

care to retract your comment?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.37  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @1.1.35    one month ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.38  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.37    one month ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.39  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.36    one month ago
care to retract your comment?

Nope...but I am highly amazed.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @1.1.38    one month ago

Maybe they can start a support group for those offended by certain size fonts?

You know, give them hugs and a puppy and some crayons?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.41  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @1.1.39    one month ago

You shouldn't be. I get lots of tickets from the more liberal mods

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @1.1.38    one month ago
'It truly is difficult keeping up with all the whining from the left.'

The 'right' has whiny little bitch down pat!

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.43  Ender  replied to  bugsy @1.1.38    one month ago

Funny considering this whole thread is a whine fest.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.44  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.42    one month ago

No kidding. Even when donald was in office, just complain about everything...

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.45  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.40    one month ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.46  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @1.1.45    one month ago
[removed]
 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.47  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.46    one month ago

Let's all discuss the article please, not each other, font sizes or partisan sweeping generalizations.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.48  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.46    one month ago

Funny how you always whine about articles not being about you, but you sure don't have a problem making an article about someone else.

Maybe you can help me with a problem I have.

[deleted]

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.49  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @1.1.48    one month ago

I'm locking this thread for being off-topic.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    one month ago

Maybe he couldn't achieve a happy ending and blamed the ladies. [deleted]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Greg Jones @2    one month ago

What makes you think this guy is a liberal? He shot people with a GUN. I thought liberals hated guns?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    one month ago

I just heard on the news that they think this guy is a religious wacko.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @2.1.1    one month ago

Wouldn't surprise me. He probably has a sex fetish of some kind and had a disappointing experience

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.2    one month ago

He does - a sex addiction - like I said below - that goes so well with a love of 'god, guns, family, pizza' not necessarily in that order.

According to Steve below:  "his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion."

Wonder if there was any sexual abuse growing up?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    one month ago
He shot people with a GUN. I thought liberals hated guns?

Exactly. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.4    one month ago

I really do think that some don't think before they let their fingers fly across a keyboard

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.5    one month ago
some don't think before they let their fingers fly across a keyboard

...uh,... can't think.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Greg Jones @2    one month ago
Liberals like to cast blame, it seems to me.

Libs aren't the only ones. :) 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @2    one month ago

The fuck are you talking about? Not everything is political. If he is guilty he is an asshole and should never see the light of day again, who gives a shit about his politics? 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     one month ago

A trickle of details about the suspect, who went by his middle name, offered few clues.

“Pizza, guns, drums, music, family, and God. This pretty much sums up my life. It’s a pretty good life,” read the tagline on an Instagram account that appeared to belong to Long.

A student who graduated from Sequoyah High with Long in 2017 who spoke on the condition of anonymity told The Daily Beast, “He was very innocent seeming and wouldn’t even cuss. He was sorta nerdy and didn’t seem violent from what I remember. He was a hunter and his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion.”

Robert-Aaron-Long-uuuu_pmwiud

Crisp County Sheriff's Office

The rampage began at Young’s Asian Massage in Acworth in Cherokee County, where two people were killed, one other person succumbed to their injuries en route to a nearby hospital, and one died while in treatment, according to the sheriff’s office. The victims were two Asian women, a white woman, and a white man, according to the   Atlanta Journal-Constitution . A Hispanic man was also injured in the shooting and was rushed to a hospital for medical treatment, a spokesman for the sheriff said.

About an hour later and 30 miles away, two spas on the same Atlanta street—Gold Spa and one in Aroma Therapy Spa—were targeted by gunfire, and four Asian women were killed.

.................................................

What a messed up dude. So sad for everyone. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3    one month ago
his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion.

bingo

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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3.1.1  Drakkonis  replied to  devangelical @3.1    one month ago

Bingo what, exactly? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.1    one month ago

Don't be coy.  It doesn't suit you.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.1    one month ago

I guess you don't keep up with what's been going on in Protestant churches.

The Catholic Church gets the headlines meanwhile preachers are diddling little kids, too

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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3.1.4  Drakkonis  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    one month ago
The Catholic Church gets the headlines meanwhile preachers are diddling little kids, too

I see. So, you've solved the why of this incident by using your preferred stereotype of pastors and other church leaders. No need to wait on actual facts. Don't need 'em. Since the racial hatred angle doesn't appear to be panning out, may as well use this situation to attack from another angle. We can go after the religious, instead. Well done. 

You know, I certainly expected such from devangelical, but I really didn't expect it from you. That isn't a guilt trip attempt. I know we have a lot of differences but I really didn't expect it from you. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.4    one month ago

I've listened to a lot of trash over the years on this forum about the Catholic Church and its predatory priests.

If you can't admit that there have been the same problems in Protestant churches, I can't help you

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.5    one month ago

I just assume religious leaders a diddling little boys as a default. That is in addition to riding the gravy train of fear and ignorance that is religion.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.6    one month ago

It happens in all religions but like I said the Catholic Church got the headlines

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.6    one month ago

I hate to admit it, but I assume the same . . . . so often that is the case

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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3.1.9  Drakkonis  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.5    one month ago
If you can't admit that there have been the same problems in Protestant churches, I can't help you

I don't deny the problem. It is also not the subject of discussion. It is a stereotypical prejudice used, not to explain the shooter's actions, but to use this incident to attack an institution you seem to hate. You take one piece of information from an unnamed source (an individual the shooter went to high school with) and manufacture an explanation as to how someone could do this, implying such is typical of the religious.

In other words, the only significance this crime has to you is figuring out in what way you can project it onto those you hate. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.9    one month ago

blah blah blah

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.10    one month ago

I agree wholeheartedly!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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3.1.12  MonsterMash  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.9    one month ago
You take one piece of information from an unnamed source (an individual the shooter went to high school with) and manufacture an explanation as to how someone could do this, implying such is typical of the religious.
Liberal mind:
Religion bad
Cardi B simulating lesbian sex on stage: performing art.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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3.1.13  Drakkonis  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1.12    one month ago

I think you mean progressives but, yeah, that's about the sum of it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  MonsterMash @3.1.12    one month ago

I actually like Episcopalians. They don't come to my house on Saturday morning asking if I've found Jesus.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4  Thrawn 31    one month ago

Ahhh, as we start getting the pandemic a bit more under control isn’t it nice to see normal headlines again in America?

Too bad we are going to have to start getting used to this shit again. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4    one month ago

I was thinking the same thing. a whole year without a school shooting.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5  Hallux    one month ago

As expected, a lot of folks jumping to hasty conclusions ... @!@

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    one month ago

Off topic ... what's up with white guys and scraggly beards?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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6.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Hallux @6    one month ago

...incels gone mad...

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1.1  Hallux  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1    one month ago

I've seen neater pubic hair than what folks are sporting these days.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @6.1.1    one month ago

That is just so ugly - that scraggly beard.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.2  Ender  replied to  Hallux @6    one month ago

Never trust someone with weird facial hair.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Hallux @6    one month ago

It does look like shit, that is a fact.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7  Tessylo    one month ago

I just read that this guy had a sex addiction - goes so well with a love of 'god, guns, family, pizza' not necessarily in that order

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7    one month ago

where I live, those asian massage parlors are/were basically brothels exploiting asian women with work visas supplied by their employers. the spas would play cat and mouse with local law enforcement until they could land in a friendly city within the metro area, usually a very conservative city.

the escort services and spas were a big scandal in denver over a decade ago and it was always a topic of conversation in the poker games I attended where more than half the players were cops. if you knew the secret regimen for payment and gaining admission, you obviously got a lot more than a massage. a scandal within the scandal also occurred when a few law enforcement officers went above and beyond gathering evidence concerning the types of crimes that the spa businesses were committing.

those places are usually owned and run by asian crime syndicates thru a front person. the girls are sex workers going nonstop thru all hours of operation and are usually housed together, sometimes at the massage parlor. they are rotated around the parlors owned by the syndicates, even across state lines. by not having access to travel documents and no way to afford traveling, being completely isolated, and sometimes unable to understand any english beyond their work menu, they are sex slaves. the girls are usually sent back home broke, if they're lucky, after they become a business liability due to their age.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1    one month ago

That's just horrible.  You hear about those kinds of things all the time.  Using these poor girls and then throwing them away like garbage.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  devangelical @7.1    one month ago

They are more or less “legal” forms of human trafficking.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @7.1    one month ago

That just breaks my heart. These poor girls were probably sold a bill of goods about going to America and got enslaved by becoming prostitutes who don't even get to keep the cash they earn.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.3    one month ago

Honestly a lot of them were probably rotated here from similar places in SE Asia. It is a real problem out there, a lot of these girls are coming from places like the Philippines or Thailand and are essentially pressed into it by criminal elements or have little choice for fear of their families being harmed. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1    one month ago

I wonder how often it was the uptight 'conservatives' frequenting these places????????????????

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Participates
7.1.6  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    one month ago
I wonder how often it was the uptight 'conservatives' frequenting these places????????????????

I wonder how often compassionate liberals went to these places?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  MonsterMash @7.1.6    one month ago

How many liberals go around killing people because they can't keep their dick in their pants?  Blames others for their 'addictions'.  Accepts no responsibility for their actions?

Sounds like the so-called 'conservatives' and 'conservative' 'small c christians'

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
7.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  devangelical @7.1    one month ago

This is the underlying issue.

The ugly truth that also is an indication of the anti-Asian, anti-woman bias...looking the other way rather address the abuse. 

Thank you for exposing it. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Masters Principal
8  MrFrost    one month ago

I knew the shooter was white when I heard, "Shooter was arrested". 

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
8.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @8    one month ago

... especially in georgia. where's the usual background info dump on this killer? I wonder if he's got somebody in his life that doesn't want to be embarrassed? maybe he wiped his past on the way out.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Masters Principal
9  MrFrost    one month ago
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Ari Berman
@AriBerman
38,000 gun deaths a year in US: who needs gun control? 2 cases of voter fraud in 2020: let’s pass 253 new voter suppression laws
 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
9.1  Ender  replied to  MrFrost @9    one month ago

And then complain because the Dems put forth a universal background check bill.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
9.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @9.1    one month ago

... that more than 2/3's of americans want enacted now ...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
10  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

Ho Hum.  Another day another shooting.  Welcome to America.  Buy a gun.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
11  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

As more is learned about the perpetrator, I'm not so sure that this was a hate crime or even an anti-Asian intention.  Certain questions are coming to mind, such as if his intent was to kill Asians, then why go to distantly spread out locations of a specific business, why not just go to the local Chinatown and fire in any direction?  Asians were not the only ones killed - two of the victims were not.  And as Steve said above: "...his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion."  So by listing God as one of his great interests, maybe he felt he was doing God's business, ending the lives of sinners, sins to which he succumbed and was harbouring an uncontrollable guilt - perhaps by doing so he was cleansing himself.  No specific motive has been indicated as yet, so it's open to conjecture.

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
11.1  zuksam  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @11    one month ago

He was a Whackjob and like most Whackadoos who lose it there was something that triggered him and that became his target. He's said to be a sex addict but I think that's a symptom of larger problems. Maybe he was a sad lonely man who took comfort where he could get it but he was a whackjob so when the "Love" he paid for disappeared when he ran out of money he snapped. I wonder if he maxed out a few credit cards at the "Spa" and found himself in financial trouble. I'm sure there were lots of "Reasons" he did what he did but in the end it was the Whackjob who killed those people and one reason is as good as the next to a whackadoo. There are lots of people who make bad decisions and do stupid shit and have to learn hard lessons and some never learn and spend their lives in a shitstorm of their own making but lucky for us most aren't whacky enough to go on a killing spree.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  zuksam @11.1    one month ago

He's a whackjob who was racially motivated to kill these Asian women and he had a sexual addiction and he killed the women because he's an inbred domestic terrorist!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Junior Expert
11.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.1    one month ago
He's a whackjob who was racially motivated to kill these Asian women

No, but you believe what you have to.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.2    one month ago

Yes,  it's true.  

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
11.1.4  zuksam  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.1    one month ago

No he was just a Whackjob and that's the reason he did what he did. Whackjobs often latch on to a cause or excuse for their crimes but it's not the reason they kill they kill because they're a whackadoo. A Whackjob killer can be a Racist that hates Asians or a Social Justice Warrior that hates White People it makes no difference because the excuse is secondary it's the fixation, it takes a Whackjob to do these types of killings and he could just as easily have shot up a BurgerKing for making him Fat. Maybe they'll find a copy of The Catcher in the Rye in his possessions and some people will try to assign some type of meaning to that. In the end Whackadoos fixate on all types of things and twist them into their delusions but it's the crazy that pushes the cheese off the cracker.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
11.1.5  Veronica  replied to  zuksam @11.1.4    one month ago

Maybe we should stop giving these people "cute" names like "whackadoodle, whackjob, nutjob, etc" and call them what they truly are - murderers.  The description you are using lessens the horror of what they did.  He is not a person that walked into Walmart with his ass hanging out of his pants - he killed people - not a whackjob - he is a murderer, plain and simple. Stop making this less, stop giving him an excuse - he killed people.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.1    one month ago

I don't think it was racially motivated. I do think his brain wasn't working properly due to influence of religion and massage parlors being readily available. He couldn't stand the guilt and shame any longer and he snapped

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.6    one month ago

I respect your views on this matter. . . . . 

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
11.1.8  zuksam  replied to  Veronica @11.1.5    one month ago

He's a Murderer but that's understood, what type of Murderer is he ? A Whackjob Murderer. It's not "cute" or "less" just a specific type. I call them Whackadoos and Whackjobs because it's an insulting degrading name just like they deserve. Maybe you'd like to call him "The Asian Ho Murderer" but I'd rather call him "the little dick Whackadoo whose cheese turned to wizz". We all know what he did and what he is.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
11.1.9  Veronica  replied to  zuksam @11.1.8    one month ago
Maybe you'd like to call him "The Asian Ho Murderer"

I never said anything remotely like that, but keep covering the fact the terms you use make his crime seem like a lark.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
11.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  zuksam @11.1.8    one month ago

‘The Asian Ho Murderer?’

This is exactly the reason for the outcry...the killers motive is yet to be determined, but those so willing to deflect the protestations speak more clearly to the issue than anything the shooter did. 

The saddest condemnation of all. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12  Tessylo    one month ago

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Ever heard of counseling you little inbred scumbag?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
13  Tessylo    one month ago

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14  Tessylo    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15  Vic Eldred    one month ago

The left is trying to make it look like these shootings were anti-Asian hate crimes.

Sorry the facts prove otherwise.

This is what happens when another false narrative is used to demonize people. I say we give a code violation to anyone falsely claiming a hate crime!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @15    one month ago

No, it's not the 'left' trying to make these killings look like they were Anti-Asian hate crimes.  It's the killer who made it 'look like' they were Anti-Asian hate crimes.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @15.1    one month ago

The killer may have hated women, but Asians NO!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1.1    one month ago

Then why did he only kill Asian women?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.2    one month ago

He didn't..  They weren't all Asian women..

READ THE ARTICLE!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1.3    one month ago

So yours is bigger?  Happy now?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1.3    one month ago

The majority of them were!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16  Tessylo    one month ago

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bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @16    one month ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @16.1    one month ago

Do I hear a dogwhistle?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @16.1    one month ago
there is a high probability that she has wished every Jew on the face of the planet to somehow "disappear", and not care how they did it.. Mainly because she does not look at Jewish people as "innocent".

Do you make similar sweeping generalizations about all ethnicities/colors/religion that are not white and Christian?

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @16.1.1    one month ago
Do I hear a dogwhistle?

Again...that only you hear.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.2    one month ago

How is my comment a SG? It is about ONE person, not a whole group of people.

This person is a documented anti semite.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @16.1.4    one month ago

Really? Can you show us some proof that she's a documented anti-semite? I've never heard of her

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.2    one month ago
"Do you make similar sweeping generalizations about all ethnicities/colors/religion that are not white and Christian?"

Yes she does.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
16.1.7  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.5    one month ago

Never heard of her either.

Must be though, you know, because of the headscarf and all...s/

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.5    one month ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @16.1.8    one month ago

It's a hit piece.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
16.1.10  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.9    one month ago

Yeah, I read some of the medium link. I didn't see what they are quoting her saying as all that bad. So she supported the million man march....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @16.1.10    one month ago

Yeah, lock her up!  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.12  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.9    one month ago
It's a hit piece.

If you think so, then maybe you can do a little research and you will find articles by both the NYT and Newsweek, bot far left publications. They are behind a payroll but the headline should tell you all you need.,

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @16.1.12    one month ago

Why should I pay to find information that you claim is the truth? You put the claim out there by calling her an anti-semite. I'm not going to pay good money to do your homework.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.14  bugsy  replied to  Ender @16.1.10    one month ago
I didn't see what they are quoting her saying as all that bad.

It's not always about what one says, it sometimes is their actions. She s a rabid supported of Farrakhan, a true, out and out, anti semite.

I've heard many, many liberals in here say that if you support Donald Trump, then you must be a racist, mysogynist, homophobe, and whatever -ist, ism and -phobe a leftist could come up with.

Because of that logic, you should agree that because Sarsour is a big supporter of Farrakhan, she must also be an anti semite.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.13    one month ago

"Why should I pay to find information that you claim is the truth? You put the claim out there by calling her an anti-semite. I'm not going to pay good money to do your homework."

So typical!  The gqp'ers expect everybody to do their work for them!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @16.1.14    one month ago

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Ender
PhD Principal
16.1.17  Ender  replied to  bugsy @16.1.14    one month ago

Not a fan of Farrakhan. Never cared for him.

Actually, I always said a lot of racist, mysogynist, homophobe, and whatever -is are donald supporters.

A subtle difference, yet a difference.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.18  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @16.1.15    one month ago

Reading comprehension can be your friend. I never said you should pay for something. I said there are two articles that back my position, but because they are behind a pay wall, I can't post them here.

Anyhoo...why would I post anything that would shine truth on you? You have said many times you don't read links, but yet, you always have something negative to say about...well........everything.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
16.1.19  Ender  replied to  bugsy @16.1.18    one month ago

I hate the paywalls. Wapo is always behind one.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @16.1.18    one month ago

Well if they actually backed your position like you say, you would have provided the entire documents, not just the headline.  

When have you ever provided anything resembling the truth or facts?

I don't read links from you . . . or anyone else who supports that orange turd.

"I never said you should pay for something."

I didn't say this, you forgot who you were insulting.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.21  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @16.1.20    one month ago
Me....."I never said you should pay for something." You....I didn't say this,

No? You didn't say this?

Why should I pay to find information that you claim is the truth?

Maybe someone hacked your NT account s/

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
16.1.22  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @16.1.20    one month ago
Well if they actually backed your position like you say, you would have provided the entire documents, not just the headline.

Not surprising you would contradict your self in the same post...because you then said this....

"I don't read links from you . . . or anyone else who supports that orange turd".

Admit it...you don;t read anything that may provide you something that goes against your provided narrative.

".

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
16.1.23  Ender  replied to  Ender @16.1.19    one month ago

Another one is Newsweek, is always blocked on my phone.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17  Tessylo    one month ago

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