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Walgreens closing 5 more San Francisco stores over shoplifting fears

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  3 years ago  •  61 comments

By:   The Associated Press

Walgreens closing 5 more San Francisco stores over shoplifting fears
Walgreens said Tuesday that it will close five more stores in San Francisco next month because of organized retail theft in another blow to a city that has

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SAN FRANCISCO — Walgreens said Tuesday that it will close five more stores in San Francisco next month because of organized retail theft in another blow to a city that has earned an embarrassing reputation for widespread and brazen shoplifting.

The stores will close down next month, SFGATE reported. It said Walgreens has closed at least 10 stores in the city since the start of 2019.

"Retail theft across our San Francisco stores has continued to increase in the past few months to five times our chain average" despite large increases in security, Walgreens spokesperson Phil Caruso said.

San Francisco Supervisor Ahsha Safai said he was devastated by the loss of a Mission Street store that "has been a staple for seniors, families and children for decades."

"This is a sad day for San Francisco," Safai told SFGATE. "We can't continue to let these anchor institutions close that so many people rely on."

Last year, Walgreens closed one store where the chain said it was losing $1,000 a day to thefts.

Frustration and fear over thefts have been fueled by widely circulating images of shoplifting caught on video. This summer, shoplifters in masks carrying armfuls of designer handbags sprinted from a downtown Neiman Marcus department store and into getaway cars.

In June, a masked man was caught on video at a Walgreens, stuffing items into a trash bag before cruising out of the store on a bicycle. A suspect was arrested in that theft.

Last month, Mayor London Breed and Police Chief Bill Scott announced that they will dedicate more police, beef up coordination and make it easier to report shoplifters.

The strategy aims to counter thieving that has added to the liberal city's reputation as being soft on crime.

"We care about criminal justice reform. We care about second chances. We care about making sure that people are not wrongly accused," Breed in announcing the new measures. "But don't take our kindness for weakness, our compassion for weakness."


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zuksam
Junior Silent
1  zuksam    3 years ago

I'd rather spend the thousand dollars a day on five burly security guards than let them steal it. 25 years ago I went to a liquor store near RFK in DC (a bad area/housing project) and it was an empty room with windows with products in view and a bank teller type window. You ordered what you wanted and paid and they gave you your order in the drawer or if it was a case of beer through a cabinet with locking doors on either side. Shoplifting was impossible and employee theft couldn't be blamed on customers so it probably worked real well..

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2  Gazoo    3 years ago

They ought to shoot the shoplifters. Shoot the fuckers dead. That will put an end to this shit right away. Plus, it will rid society of some shitbags society is better off without. 

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gazoo @2    3 years ago

Having seen the videos that are referred to in the seed, and even more, that went through my head as well, but shoot them in the legs to disable them rather than kill them.  That way the goods are recovered and the criminals will be dealt with.  I have zero sympathy for the looters.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    3 years ago

“and the criminals will be dealt with.”

but the way dems deal with criminals won’t work. Dems will simply let them go and they’ll be back to their sleazeball, shitbag ways the same day. Society is better off if they are permanently removed.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.2  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.1    3 years ago

That is how Nazis spoke about the Jews...

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2.1.3  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @2.1.2    3 years ago

There is a huge, major, difference between jews and criminals that screw over society and law abiding citizens by taking advantage of soft laws. Geez, what a stupid post.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.1    3 years ago

Then you would have shot and killed Jean Valjean, the starving man in Les Miserables who stole a loaf of bread he could not afford to buy.  Let each be judged and punished according to their own level of guilt.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @2    3 years ago

That is so messed up it is hard to decide were to begin. How much liability insurance will malls need if security gards are going to start shooting at all the shoplifters? A gazillion trillion billion million dollars!

No wonder people shop online instead of in malls.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2.2.1  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @2.2    3 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.2  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.1    3 years ago

No, what is fucked up is you thinking that shooting petty criminals in malls is an answer.

Petty crime predates all modern ideologies.

Snatch and runs happened in Mesopotamia.

original

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2.2.3  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @2.2.2    3 years ago

Criminals will always be taking advantage of one as long as one keeps kissing their ass. No penalty, no repercussions, no problem for the criminal mind. That’s what they want.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2.2.4  zuksam  replied to  JBB @2.2    3 years ago

it's a bad situation all around, Security costs money but comes with liabilities not just from security hurting perps but from perps hurting security, often the clerks are afraid to confront the perps and rightfully so. People rely on these stores especially elderly folks so something has to be done. I think we need tougher penalties when they're caught, no more slaps on the wrist. Also if I were Walgreens I hire off duty cops to run stings at various stores, lots of cameras in the store and once you've identified a perp you arrest them in the parking lot with enough force to do it safely. By moving this security force around to random stores they could put a big dent in these thefts, even if the justice system is a revolving door the perps will go steal from some other chain.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.5  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.3    3 years ago

Yet, you want mall cops to shoot shoplifters and have the gall to get indignant about it...

I do not think you get how ridiculous that is.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.6  JBB  replied to  zuksam @2.2.4    3 years ago

What about all of the innocent bystanders?

Don't you think somebody thought this out?

Shooting people isn't a good way to fix this.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2.2.7  zuksam  replied to  JBB @2.2.2    3 years ago
No, what is fucked up is you thinking that shooting petty criminals in malls is an answer.

A thousand bucks a day puts a store out of business. Walgreens is a big company and can close the store and absorb the loss but a Mom and Pop business cannot. These "Petty" thefts destroy businesses and destroy a lifetime of work and investment and that's not Petty at all.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2.2.8  zuksam  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago
Shooting people isn't a good way to fix this.

I wouldn't recommend shooting anyone who doesn't need shooting. That's why I'd rather use cops and arrest the perps in the parking lot. If a perp pulls a weapon he needs shooting so F it, if they resist but have no weapon taze them. Security shouldn't have to brawl with perps to arrest them. When stores are closing because of shoplifting it's obvious things must change, how do you think Detroit ended up with all those so called "Food Deserts".

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
2.2.9  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @2.2.5    3 years ago

Where did i say mall cops? Point that out and i will admit you are right, [Deleted]

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.10  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.9    3 years ago

Then who do you imagine shooting shoplifters?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2    3 years ago

How much insurance do you think is necessary to cover the losses due to dumbfuck Democratic "policies"??

Bunch of dumbasses elected these fools to pass these kind of dumbfuck laws, so they get what they wanted so badly.

I hope all sane business owners revolt and leave a state where criminals are given priority over businesses that pay taxes and employ people, besides providing people with goods needed.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.12  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.11    3 years ago

Now you are just being hysterical. Walgreens is not pulling out of California and they are not closing San Francisco locations because they are not allowed to shoot shoplifters! 

Store Count by State
       

Total Drugstores -  9,021

Through August 31, 2020 Includes all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands
 
Alabama 151  

Maine

79   Oklahoma 116
Alaska 11   Maryland 154   Oregon 73
Arizona 234   Massachusetts 249   Pennsylvania 115
Arkansas 79   Michigan 232   Rhode Island 46
California 586   Minnesota 153   South Carolina 150
Colorado 169   Mississippi 83   South Dakota 14
Connecticut 116   Missouri 208   Tennessee 271
Delaware 62   Montana 13   Texas 701
Florida 820   Nebraska 56   Utah 56
Georgia 270   Nevada 83   Vermont 32
Hawaii 17   New Hampshire 35   Virginia 204
Idaho 38   New Jersey 280   Washington  135
Illinois 574   New Mexico 70   West Virginia 94
Indiana 188   New York  564   Wisconsin 226
Iowa 72   North Carolina 356   Wyoming 10
Kansas 70   North Dakota   1   Washington D.C.

14

Kentucky 171   Ohio  242  

Puerto Rico

105
Louisiana 172      

 

U.S. Virgin Islands

1

Total 9,021

© 2021 Walgreen Co. All rights reserved

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.12    3 years ago

Seriously, dude, what in the FUCK did you read???????????

Hysterical?

Hardly.

Please learn what the fuck an opinion is and stop the melodramatic bullshit.

Tell you what--you live in that rat hole Democrats created.

You and the shoplifters will be quite happy, I'm sure.

Can you tell me what POSSIBLE good you see in policies that almost encourage shoplifters?

Can you tell me what good you see in companies having to abandon markets because dumbfuck Democratic policies put their business at risk? 

Can you tell me how people living in the neighborhoods which were serviced by stores who leave will be positively affected by the results of dumbfuck Democratic policies?

And for the record--since you obviously didn't read my comment or understand it (surely you weren't trying to put words in my mouth again and then debate what the fuck you invented), I never said even ONE fucking word about Walgreen's or any other business abandoning the state OR even one fucking word about shooting anyone.

Get real. dude.

Debate what I write, not the crap you invent.

SMMFH

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.2.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.14    3 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.2.16  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @2.2.2    3 years ago

A new Mexican food restaurant just opened up in Beijing......

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.14    3 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.2.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.15    3 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

No surprise as progressive governance does its damndest to make even the most wealthy cities unlivable. 

No surprise here:

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
4  al Jizzerror    3 years ago

One way to deal with shoplifters is to hire off-duty police officers for security.

They can make arrests and they know how to testify in court.

They also know it's ridiculous to "gun down" shoplifters. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1  Texan1211  replied to  al Jizzerror @4    3 years ago
One way to deal with shoplifters is to hire off-duty police officers for security.

Yes, and when one reads the article, they magically discover that Walgreen's DID hire extra security and STILL had to close stores.

Dumbfuck Democratic policies are responsible for this travesty.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    3 years ago

As long as the liberal courts in blue states insist on treating perps with kid gloves and letting them off scott free back into society, said problems will persist and most likely increase. So glad I live in rural SE Arizona instead of the fecal receptacle San Francisco in the cesspool state called California!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5  Ender    3 years ago

Shoplifting is just a misdemeanor in my state. Most likely won't get any jail time.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @5    3 years ago

Shoplifting like picking up an item and putting it under your jacket is one thing, but when you fill up a big green garbage bag with items and run out of the store, as I saw in the news videos, that is a little extreme to be considered just shoplifting. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1    3 years ago

Point being, if the same kinda laws are here, what is the difference...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @5.1.1    3 years ago

Yeah, I guess if you backed up a truck to the door and emptied the store shelves it would still be just shoplifting. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.2    3 years ago

I am talking about similar laws in not so similar places.

I know here there is a threshold, a dollar amount before it is a felony.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Ender  replied to  Ender @5.1.3    3 years ago

Plus with shoplifting, we have a three strike law.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
5.1.5  zuksam  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1    3 years ago
a little extreme to be considered just shoplifting.

It's not shoplifting it's strong arm robbery. The brazenness of the crime infers the threat of violence. Anyone with any sense knows a thief like that who doesn't care that you know they're stealing isn't going to peacefully allow you to stop them.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7  Buzz of the Orient    3 years ago

Here's an idea.  Many stores have electronic devices on poles prior to the exit doors that can detect items that have not been scanned at the cash registers.  How about that they activate a control when they detect an item that was not scanned and automatically cause all doors to immediately shut and lock.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    3 years ago

Then they would probably just break the windows and/or glass doors. I mean if they go to the trouble of filling trash bags with items to steal, what's a window or door thrown in?

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
7.2  Gazoo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    3 years ago

That has the potential to put innocent, law abiding citizens in harms way if the criminals feel trapped and get desperate. Better to nab them outside the store. Catalogue the stolen items, question them, get as much info from them as possible because many of these thugs are part of organized theft rings, then rid the planet of their existence.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    3 years ago
Here's an idea

Here's an idea.  Do exactly what Walgreens is doing and move stores out of that area.  If people complain that they can't get their prescriptions and whatever, then they need to do something about their neighborhoods.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.3    3 years ago

Welcome to America.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
7.3.2  zuksam  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.3.1    3 years ago

Shoplifting carries a minimum penalty of three years to a maximum of ten (plus a fine) in the People’s Republic of China.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  zuksam @7.3.2    3 years ago

Really?  I guess that explains why I've always been so amazed that stores and vendors hardly lock things up overnight - in many cases just throwing a canvas over their wares, fruit, veggies, etc. because they know that nobody is going to try to grab anything.  And bank guards do not have guns.  However, I have heard that there have been pickpockets, and there are guards at the doors of some apartment buildings (like mine) and there are gated communities, so China is not entirely free of petty crime.  More serious crime is VERY strictly dealt with.  

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
7.3.4  zuksam  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.3.3    3 years ago
More serious crime is VERY strictly dealt with.

I imagine so with penalties like 3 to 10 yrs for shoplifting which US courts see as a petty crime. It works though and I bet the rate of recidivism is very low.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8  Mark in Wyoming     3 years ago

`OR, simply close the store , and not do business in that jurisdiction , no place is entitled to have someone operate any business anywhere if conditions are not to their liking .

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8    3 years ago

Unfortunately that causes a real problem for elderly and disabled persons who may have difficulty getting to a store far away in order to fill their life-preserving prescriptions.  I would suggest that a small pharmacy be opened where only necessary usual drugs (e.g. aspirin), and drugs and appliances requiring prescriptions be stored behind the counter with metal grills like one sees in some pawn shops are located - i.e. nothing anyone can just grab.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
8.1.1  shona1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1    3 years ago

Morning...would be interesting to know after the riots with all the burning of supermarkets and shops etc....how the locals are now fairing???

Or was it more the case of outsiders creating all the mess and mayhem and then all going back to their comfy homes...and leaving all the destruction to others to suffer... especially the elderly and infirm.

Has any TV reporters gone back to see what the go is???

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1    3 years ago

Buzz , im willing to bet they looked at all the options before deciding to close , walgreens is not just a pharmacy , they have snack food first aide supplies ,hair care products aftershave perfume , you name it if its small and health and beauty related they likely have it  , i doubt it would be worth it to clear everything else out and just have the pharmacy end , so best they can do is simply close and walk away , they are under no obligation to make anyones life easier for convienience , they after all have to make a profit as well .

 maybe the state can open a little state pharmacy in its place .

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  shona1 @8.1.1    3 years ago

I don't know.  I'm as far away from it as you are.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.2    3 years ago

Seems to me that the only solution would be for anyone who knows who the culprits are to provide that info to the authorities, but I assume that they would more likely fear retribution.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Participates
8.1.7  1stwarrior  replied to  shona1 @8.1.1    3 years ago

Shona - totally off topic - but - sent my Brother in Law (Lives in Victoria) a plastic bag (from WalMarts) with 10 clothing items for our new, soon-to-be, one y.o. niece on Wednesday and it should arrive next Wednesday.  Weight?  1.3 pounds.  Cost to ship??????? $411.91.

No more for her :-)

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
8.1.8  shona1  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.7    3 years ago

Anoon 1st...cricky you could have almost brought it out yourself on a plane...hmmm not sure about arriving in a week...all the post is up the creek as there is a massive backlog and they stopped delivery for a week..

I posted a box 4 kilo about 2 years ago  to England. Went by ship took 3 months to get there and that was $100... which was not to bad....

Did you get your new kitty??

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
8.1.9  shona1  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.7    3 years ago

I live in Victoria as well...small world..

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
8.1.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.7    3 years ago

Oh for the days of FPO's (Fleet Post Offices). When our amphibious group of 3 ships pulled in Sydney in 81, I mailed a 5 pound box to my kids in Arizona and it did not cost me a cent courtesy of the US Navy!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11  JohnRussell    3 years ago

There have been mass store robberies in the Michigan Avenue area of downtown Chicago. That district is very important to tourism in Chicago. It will be cracked down on , but these things take a little time. 

In the 1930's they created task forces to go after the Dillingers and Baby Face Nelsons.  They need to get something like that going federally, related to these mass shoplifting cases. 

 
 

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