Virginia mom claims white daughter asked if she was ‘born evil’ after history lesson

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  156 comments

By:   By Joshua Rhett Miller

Virginia mom claims white daughter asked if she was ‘born evil’ after history lesson
"My six year old somberly came to me and asked if she was born evil because she was a white person, something she learned in a history lesson at school."

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A Virginia mother yanked her children out of public school after her 6-year-old asked if she was “born evil” for being white — something the young girl purportedly picked up in her history class.

The Loudoun County woman, whose identity wasn’t immediately clear, detailed her concerns against critical race theory during an impassioned plea at a Loudon County Public Schools board meeting on Oct. 26,  video shows .

“My children are now in private school and are thriving,” the woman told the board, claiming the “swift and uncompromising” political agenda of the district’s former and current administration forced her hand.

“First, it was in early spring of 2020 when my 6-year-old somberly came to me and asked me if she was born evil because she was a white person — something she learned in a history lesson at school,” the concerned mom said.

“Then you kept the schools closed for a year and a half, despite the science indicating it was safe for kids to return,” she continued. “Now you’ve covered up a rape and arrested, humiliated and falsely accused parents of being domestic terrorists.”

Some parents in the district have been calling for the resignations of Superintendent Scott Ziegler and the board for allegedly covering up a sexual assault report and ongoing issues with critical race theory in classes,  Fox News reported .

A May 28 email obtained by Fox News also shows Ziegler informing the school board about a sexual assault allegation in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School.

At a school board meeting in June, though, Ziegler said the “predator transgender student or person simply does not exist” and that staffers had no record of an assault in a school district restroom, Fox News reported.

The discovery of the email led critics to claim that district officials covered up the alleged assault, which a spokesman has denied.

District spokesman Wayne Byard told Fox News the alleged assault was first reported on May 28 and was relayed to sheriff’s officials immediately. But the report couldn’t be released to the public because it was “still under investigation,” Byard said.

The displeased mom said she wishes she could send her children back to Loudoun County Public Schools — and called on the entire school board to resign.

“Private school is expensive and I want my kids to be able to walk home from school with their friends in their own community,” she said. “I refuse to allow you to destroy our schools. They are not your schools — they are our schools. You all should be ashamed and you should have the moral courage to admit you are wrong and step down.”

The controversy comes as Democrat Terry McAuliffe  tries to stave off surging Republican Glenn Youngkin  in Tuesday’s gubernatorial election — which has been dominated by education issues in the state.

Youngkin has pulled ahead of McAuliffe with 53 percent of likely voters, compared to McAuliffe’s 45 percent, according to a Fox News poll last week.

Youngkin’s surge has been powered by outrage on issues like schools and education, including whether parents should have a say in what books are assigned to their children.

McAuliffe, meanwhile, has dismissed concerns about critical race theory by saying it wasn’t taught in the state, but a presentation on the Virginia Department of Education website  urges teachers to embrace the concept .

A message seeking additional comment from Loudoun County Public Schools was not immediately returned early Monday.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

And this is exactly what CRT is all about!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

And this is exactly what CRT is all about!

The article never said that she was taught CRT, and even if she was, that is not what CRT says.  So she wasn't paying attention to the class.

Maybe she was being taught about christianity and was told how original sin made her a sinner instead.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago

Ya, we know, she was hallucinating

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago
Maybe she was being taught about christianity and was told how original sin made her a sinner instead.

Prove it!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago
The article never said that she was taught CRT, and even if she was, that is not what CRT says.

To ignorant right wing conservatives any history that tells the truth about how our white conservative Christian ancestors treated minorities for the last 250+ years is considered "CRT".

Claiming something is "CRT" is now just code word for any history or facts that put white people or their ancestors in a bad light. These white conservative Christians today are desperate to paint a rosy picture of some dominant white Christian race that civilized the world with kindness and empathy instead of slavery, white supremacy, forced Christian conversions, inquisitions, witch hunts, lynching's and genocide.

Any parent that is actually teaching their children the truth about history won't have kids asking whether they were born evil, because they would be taught that no one is born evil or born superior and that in the past when life was cheap and everyone struggled to survive without quality science and medicine the strong took advantage of the weak which had little to do with skin color and everything to do with clashing cultures, limited resources and unbridled greed.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
1.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    one month ago
conservatives any history that tells the truth about how our white conservative Christian ancestors

So teaching kids that  white people are  evil is the truth for progressives. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    one month ago

I'm not in favor of teaching much about race to kids under the age of 10 or so. Before that age they should be taught that everyone is equal and treat everybody nice. 

At ten they should start to learn what racism has historically been in this country, absolutely. 

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
1.1.6  Veronica  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago
Maybe she was being taught about christianity and was told how original sin made her a sinner instead.

Yep yep yep....

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
1.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    one month ago
So teaching kids that  white people are  evil is the truth for progressives. 

Of course not, and there is no evidence that this child's teacher did anything like that. The claim made by this mother is that her child asked her if she was evil because of " something she learned in a history lesson at school". It does not claim that she was being taught that white people are evil. Apparently she inferred that from whatever story about history was being taught. The teacher might have said something about black Americans having been slaves of white masters, which is the truth. And perhaps the teacher even called slavery "evil" which would also be true. Is that really teaching that 'white people are evil"? Of course not. This parent had the perfect opportunity to teach her child and show them that no one is born like that, that prejudice and hatred and racial superiority or racial inferiority has to be taught, but instead, like many other half-brained bitter white conservatives she blew up at the messenger.

You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught

- Rodgers & Hammerstein

The anti-CRT folk are just angry that their lessons in prejudice are being undermined by historical facts instead of being validated by teachers and school districts as they had been in the past by the blatant whitewashing of American history.

Back when South Pacific came out it was very controversial. I would liken peoples responses then to the responses many conservatives are having over the very thought of CRT being taught.

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Greg Jones
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1.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    one month ago
JR wrote:  "At ten they should start to learn what racism has historically been in this country, absolutely."
For what reason? For what good and positive cause and purpose?
All this erroneous and unproven racist propaganda is being used by the left to stir up racial tensions, hatred, and divisiveness

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.8    one month ago
For what reason? For what good and positive cause and purpose?

Likely for the same reason an 82 year old woman is petitioning to get her record cleared of her arrest in 1955 when she refused to give up her seat on a bus.

“I am an old woman now. Having my records expunged will mean something to my grandchildren and great grandchildren. And it will mean something for other Black children,”

Sure, some weak little sniveling white supremacists or white nationalists might claim there is no point to her actions, the arrest was way back in 1955, we should just let sleeping racism lie so the racists and their descendants who continue their legacy of prejudice won't be bothered by exposure, criticism or, God forbid, effective societal change. We wouldn't ever want to make racists feel uncomfortable, right? /s

" propaganda is being used by the left to stir up racial tensions, hatred, and divisiveness"

That's weird, I'm as white as they get yet I don't feel any racial tension, hatred or divisiveness toward fellow Americans because of their skin color.

I do feel tension, dislike and a separation from fellow Americans who embrace certain rancid worthless conservative ideologies that ridicule education, attack factual American history by claiming it's divisive, wave confederate flags that clearly represent and support the open racists in our past who flew them, protect confederate memorials to those who fought to conserve owning humans like cattle and reject out of hand the idea that any sort of systemic racism might still exist today just some 60 years after the civil rights act was first signed into law. But then again, I don't give two shits about those whiny weak useless losers and it has nothing to do with their skin color and everything to do with the content of their character.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    one month ago
Prove it!

Prove what????

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.10    one month ago

Well, when one reads the entirety of my post (especially the quoted part I responded to) it should be clear.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    one month ago
Claiming something is "CRT" is now just code word for any history or facts that put white people or their ancestors in a bad light.

Meh.

"CRT" has become the broad, sweeping rallying phrase for people who are just sick to death of hyper-emotional angry white liberals demanding that everyone else join in their neurotic self-loathing.

It's the same kind of thing liberals do with things like "BLM" or "OWS".  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.8    one month ago
All this erroneous and unproven racist propaganda is being used by the left to stir up racial tensions, hatred, and divisiveness

The usual nonsense. There are mountains of evidence that prove widespread racism throughout American history. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
1.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.7    one month ago
Of course not, and there is no evidence that this child's teacher did anything like that

Only if you ignore evidence.

But you are the one who said telling kids they are evil because they are white is the truth. 

Claiming something is "CRT" is now just code word for any history or facts that put white people or their ancestors in a bad lig

Why do you keep telling that lie? It speaks volumes you can't address the issue honestly, and instead rely on disingenuous strawmen. 

Apparently she inferred that from whatever story about history was being taught. 

No, that's what you are inferring. 

he anti-CRT folk are just angry that their lessons in prejudice are being undermined by historical facts instead of being validated by teachers and school districts as they had been in the past by the blatant whitewashing of American history.

Burn that strawman! The irony is, of course, the CRT folks are engaged in the exact same sort of racialist propaganda  you decry in those who opposed south pacific. Got to keep lying to the kids about race to turn them into the next generation of race obsessed progressives who see the world through a racialist lens. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
1.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  Veronica @1.1.6    one month ago

Well, some religions do teach that we're all inherent pieces of $hit to be sent to he'll and only by kissing God's cosmic ass will we become his BFF. 

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
1.1.16  Veronica  replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.15    one month ago

Oy yes, I grew up the guilty Catholic.  Every thought not of god was a sin and had to be confessed & a penance done.  I finally realized I am not that bad of a person, in fact I am a good person, on my own without the threat of hell fire.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.18  Gordy327  replied to    one month ago

The idea of a blood sacrifice for a deity that supposedly makes the rules and reality itself  is quite illogical in itself.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
1.1.19  Gordy327  replied to  Veronica @1.1.16    one month ago

Leave it to religion to make one question or doubt their self worth or esteem, or otherwise make directly proportional to the amount of "hail Mary's" one can utter at a time. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.20  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.11    one month ago
Well, when one reads the entirety of my post (especially the quoted part I responded to) it should be clear.

I know you have issues with the English language at times, but even you must have read the very first word of the sentence you quoted. 

I have nothing to prove because I made no claim, I just offered up a suggestion that would have made more sense than what this article claims.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.20    one month ago

Your "suggestion" was a joke, right?

Surely you weren't serious????

God, I hope not!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.22  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.21    4 weeks ago
Your "suggestion" was a joke, right?

Ahh, you are not familiar with "original sin".  That's easy, let me provide a link so you can learn it.

You're welcome.

Surely you weren't   serious ????

Me?  Believe in "original sin"?  Of course not, that is ridiculous.  But it is a serious concern for myth believers.  They take it very seriously.

God, I hope not!

Are you saying that you hope christians don't believe in original sin?  I'm finding it hard to understand you again, since you only talk in bumper sticker sized sentences.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.22    4 weeks ago

I have said nothing about original or any other kind of sin.

why are you deflecting?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.24  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.23    4 weeks ago
I have said nothing about original or any other kind of sin. why are you deflecting?

Oh, I'm sorry.  Did I get you stuck in a corner, where you are now denying everything previously said?  We've been there multiple times, so I understand and will let you attempt to spin your way out.........again.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.24    4 weeks ago
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Tessylo
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1.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 weeks ago

Much ado about nothing, as usual, over a subject, CRT, which is not taught in schools, K-12.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.27  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.26    4 weeks ago
Much ado about nothing, as usual, over a subject, CRT, which is not taught in schools, K-12.

I always like the way he attempts to refute something by failing to deny it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.28  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.27    4 weeks ago

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gooseisback
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1.1.29  gooseisback  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 weeks ago
that is not what CRT says

Tell us Ozzwald what does CRT say?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

"no honey, you weren't born evil. now come help mommy hang this confederate flag up on the front porch"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

Only if mommy worked for the Lincoln Project.

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.2  Veronica  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

Oh but if they are Christian she most certainly was born evil - original sin & all - and she needs to be sprinkled.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.3  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    4 weeks ago
Only if mommy worked for the Lincoln Project.

Or the democratic party

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.4  JBB  replied to  bugsy @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

Ever heard of Project Veritas?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    4 weeks ago

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cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    one month ago

So your contention is that a teacher told a six year old girl she was "born evil" ?

Prove it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

The seed proved it. You don't want to believe the innocent 6 year old?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago

Ok show us the sentence in the seed that proves it. 

Yes, Vic , I doubt if a six year old said "Mommy, am I evil?" 

I think Mommy said it for her daughter. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    one month ago
Yes, Vic , I doubt if a six year old said "Mommy, am I evil?" 

I don't. That is what CRT teaches.


I think Mommy said it for her daughter. 

Yes, Mommy is being a mother and speaking up for and protecting her daughter. That POS teacher is just lucky that I'm not the father.

To the Teacher's union: Keep your filthy ideology out of the classroom.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    one month ago

Vic prove that a teacher told a six year old she was evil.  [Deleted]

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.5  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago

 The idea that school taught a 6-year old that she was born evil is absurd. They would not be teaching antebellum history or slavery to a 1st grader. The concept of evil is a religious idea.  You might have had half an argument if the student was in 6th grade.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @2.1.5    one month ago
The idea that school taught a 6-year old that she was born evil is absurd.

That's what one would have thought about a four star General telling the nation that he was "concerned about white rage."  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago
The seed proved it.

Then why not quote from it where it "proves it"?

All you've got is a mother claiming her daughter asked her a tough question, which should have been seen as an opportunity to teach her child instead of accuse the school, claiming her query was because of "something she learned in a history lesson at school". So what was it? What was she taught? And a 6 year old, that's kindergarten, the most they teach in kindergarten is to treat all people regardless of skin color, with respect. They certainly weren't teaching 'CRT' as it's not a curriculum used by any k-12 schools. Might there have been a zealous anti-discrimination teacher? Perhaps, but that isn't 'CRT'.

For any parent, that isn't a total shit show I suppose, that question should have come as a teaching moment, a child asking a serious question that the parent could have used to help their child grow and thrive. Instead she screams at the school board and exposes how uselessly embarrassed she apparently was by the question and decided to attack the messenger instead of simply addressing the question with sincerity and honesty.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.7    one month ago
Then why not quote from it where it "proves it"?

The girl told her mother.  The truth hurts for a little while, then it goes away.


They certainly weren't teaching 'CRT'

It's my turn:

PROVE IT!

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Principal
2.1.9  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    one month ago

Do you not understand the difference between a one-star general talking about the threat of domestic terrorism because of white supremacists and a 1st grader learning their ABCs? One is much different than the other.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @2.1.9    one month ago

You brought up the absurd. I demonstrated that the left has us living in absurd times. A four-star General has no business talking about "white rage."

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.1.11  Veronica  replied to    one month ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.7    one month ago

they were teaching this in Virginia schools in the 1970's

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Published in 1956 and used in Virginia classrooms through the late 1970’s,      Virginia: History, Government, Geography       by Francis B. Simkins and Spotswood H. Jones, and Sidman P. Poole      describes the life of a Virginia slave as “happy”, “cheerful”, and “prosperous.”

“.   …The      Negroes learned also to enjoy the work and play of the plantations…Virginia offered a better life for the Negroes than did Africa   …”

“A feeling of   strong affection existed between masters and slaves   in a majority of Virginia homes. . . The house servants became almost as much a part of the planter’s family circle as its white members. . . The Negroes were always present at family weddings. They were allowed to look on at dances and other entertainments . . .   A strong tie existed between slave and master   because each was dependent on the other. . . The slave system demanded that the master care for the slave in childhood, in sickness, and in old age.   The regard that master and slaves had for each other made plantation life happy and prosperous.  Life among the Negroes of Virginia in slavery times was generally happy. The Negroes went about in a cheerful manner   making a living for themselves and for those for whom they worked. . . But they were not worried by the furious arguments going on between Northerners and Southerners over what should be done with them. In fact, they paid little attention to these arguments.”
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to    one month ago

A parent has every right, a solemn duty to protect their children.

Oh, don't tell me....They hate the nuclear family in academia.....I almost forgot!

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Principal
2.1.15  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    one month ago

A general of any rank certainly has the responsibility of discussing threats to the country and government from white supremacists.  That is a basic responsibility of protecting the country "from all enemies, foreign and domestic".

 This is the oath of enlistment,

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.16  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    one month ago

John, you didn't just come across that on your own. Let's see the link..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  epistte @2.1.15    one month ago

That's all part of CRT being used by flag officers pandering to people like Biden & Rice.

Show us the threat from "white supremacists?"

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.18  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.17    one month ago

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.19  Ronin2  replied to  epistte @2.1.15    one month ago
A general of any rank certainly has the responsibility of discussing threats to the country and government from far leftist terrorists.  That is a basic responsibility of protecting the country "from all enemies, foreign and domestic".

Fixed it for you. The military is preparing for the wrong damn threat as usual. It isn't white supremacists that took over several square blocks of Portland for weeks; rioted for how many straight days in Portland or Seattle; committed assault of federal officers; looting, arson, and vandalism of federal property in how many cities. While Biden has the US government vainly searching for white supremacists plots; the far left factions are rioting across the US. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.20    one month ago

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Williams: For two decades, Virginia textbooks fed baby boomers a bogus history of slavery. Why that matters today.

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“Virginia: History, Government, Geography,” a seventh-grade textbook, included this chapter titled “How the Negroes Lived under Slavery.”

Slavery, in the pages of "Virginia: History, Government, Geography" is generally described as what was best for the enslaved.

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The seventh-grade textbook included this image of a painting of George Washington overseeing his slaves at Mount Vernon. The text on the page said Virginia "offered a better life for the Negroes than did Africa."

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This illustration from the seventh-grade textbook envisioned a scene at George Washington's birthplace in Westmoreland County. Among the textbook's passages: "Life among the Negroes of Virginia in slavery times was generally happy. The Negroes went about in a cheerful manner making a living for themselves and for those for whom they worked."

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The seventh-grade textbook included the following passage on the page that featured the illustration above: "A strong tie existed between slave and master because each was dependent on the other. ... The slave system demanded that the master care for the slave in childhood, in sickness, and in old age. The regard that master and slaves had for each other made plantation life happy and prosperous."

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The seventh-grade textbook featured this map illustration and included the following passage: "Virginia did not begin the War of 1861. But when it came, she led her sister states of the South in the battle to preserve Southern homes, the Southern way of life, and the State's rights under the Constitution."

"Virginia: History, Government, Geography" was the seventh-grade textbook.

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My parochial school did not force-feed me the bogus Virginia history that poisoned the minds of so many Virginians of my generation.

So I turned to my mom, a retired Richmond Public Schools teacher, for her memories of “Virginia: History, Government, Geography,” one of three state-commissioned textbooks whose fake take on history was detailed by Rex Springston in Monday’s issue of Discover Richmond magazine, produced by the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

The textbooks, commissioned by the state in 1957 — an era of burgeoning civil rights agitation and the resulting Massive Resistance — “taught Confederate-friendly ‘Lost Cause’ ideas to a generation of Virginians and cast the state’s segregationist political leaders in a favorable light,” Springston wrote.

These textbooks weren’t entirely purged from state classrooms until the late 1970s, he wrote. But the cottony euphemisms about the horrors of slavery remained evident in the textbook industry as recently as 2015, when a McGraw-Hill World Geography manual — in a section titled “Patterns of Immigration” — said the slave trade brought “millions of workers from Africa to the southern United States.”

“Virginia: History, Government, Geography” was a seventh-grade textbook that, among its other transgressions, spun a fictional tale of contented slaves:

“It was not difficult for the Negroes to adjust themselves to Virginia life. They had worked hard in Africa, and so the work on the Virginia plantations did not hurt them. In Africa they had known a form of slavery more stern than that of the Virginia plantations ...

“In his new home, the Negro was far away from the spears and war clubs of enemy tribes. He had some of the comforts of civilized life. He had better food, a better house, and better medical care than he did in Africa. And he was comforted by a religion of love and mercy.”

Of course, the state-sanctioned baloney in these textbooks didn’t fool my mom or her fellow teachers.

“We knew exactly what was going on,” she recalled Monday. “Yeah, we talked about it.”

Teachers had to hew to the curriculum but knew they couldn’t rely on the textbooks to convey an accurate history. “You just interjected what you knew. ... We let the kids know ... teachers knew what was in the textbooks and what was left out.”

But the teachers had to be careful in their classroom discussions. And they knew there was nothing they could do about the offensive textbooks.

“Those were terrible times,” she said.

And in that regard, they are the perverse gift that keeps on giving.

“These textbooks explain why so many in the South use the Lost Cause talking points — we were force-fed this in grade school on up,” said Alice Dunn Lynch, the former executive director of the Virginia Capitol Foundation.

“We were lied to by our own teachers!”

Ram Bhagat, an activist and retired Richmond educator, said a participant in a recent Emotional Emancipation Circle shared her “Virginia: History, Government, Geography” textbook.

The book “blew our minds last week because it’s a concrete example of the depth of the lie,” Bhagat said via text message. “I’m not sure why it hit me deeply, considering what’s been going on the past few years, along with the traumatic legacy of slavery.”

He called the textbook discussion timely as we prepare to commemorate the arrival of African captives at Jamestown 400 years ago, launching an era of black subjugation in America. “Until we change the narrative, our individual and collective lives as African Americans will never be valued!”

But how can we change a false narrative that has never truly gone away?

The monuments to the Lost Cause on Monument Avenue — unlike those in New Orleans — do not appear to be going anywhere anytime soon amid cries to preserve “history.” The names of Lee-Davis High School and Stonewall Jackson Middle School in Hanover County are being retained by popular demand.

Yes, Richmond is in the process of changing the name of J.E.B. Stuart Elementary School. But overall, how do you arrive at the historical truth in an environment filled with two competing narratives of slavery and the Civil War?

To get there requires that we undo the damage that this false narrative has inflicted upon us.

“It pushes really on three generations,” said Christy Coleman, CEO of the American Civil War Museum. “Baby boomers, who learned it. Gen Xers, who were at the tail end of it ... and to some degree, it pushed into the older millennials. They grew up with this from their parents and grandparents.”

The Massive Resistance-era push for pro-Confederate textbooks was nothing new, Coleman said, noting that former College of William & Mary President Lyon Gardiner Tyler had joined Georgia educator Mildred Lewis Rutherford’s crusade to create more pro-South textbooks decades earlier.

The false narrative was challenged in the 1980s “but not heavily,” she said. By then, the scrutiny focused on the Founding Fathers, particularly Thomas Jefferson and his relationship with Sally Hemings.

Today, she said, those who learned history from those textbooks “are for the most part in positions of leadership and power now. It’s what they grew up hearing. It’s reinforced now.”

Coleman said there’s a time in life where youngsters solidify concepts, “a period of concrete learning, basically laying the brick over where the other learning will take place.”

If one of those pillars of learning is reinforced by family and landscapes, “it’s more than just a base of knowledge. It has now become for some so entangled in their value systems or belief systems ... breaking that cycle is extremely difficult.”

In that regard, the kicker to Springston’s piece is absolutely chilling. Virginia was the perpetrator of a state-sanctioned brainwashing that has left too many folks dazed and confused, unequipped to feel empathy or process incontrovertible evidence contrary to their beliefs.

Worshipping this false narrative stunts our progress. How do we break this cycle and move toward an honest assessment of our history?

“Just keep at it, keep repeating, keep repeating, keep challenging,” Coleman said. “After a while, it becomes irrefutable.”

Coleman is admittedly optimistic. From my vantage point, getting there from here requires more intentionality than we appear capable of. I look around and I see that Massive Resistance never truly left, but merely took on a new form of denial. The differences between our history and reality are irreconcilable.

The Lost Cause, for too long, has masqueraded as truth. If we don’t reject the lie, the truth will be a lost cause.

mwilliams@timesdispatch.com

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JohnRussell
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2.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.21    one month ago

A seventh grader in 1978 or so would be about 56 years old today.  In other words, prime of life. Maybe protesting at a school board meeting or the parent of someone protesting at a school board meeting. 

Ancient history my ass. 

The false narrative was challenged in the 1980s “but not heavily,” she said. By then, the scrutiny focused on the Founding Fathers, particularly Thomas Jefferson and his relationship with Sally Hemings. Today, she said, those who learned history from those textbooks “are for the most part in positions of leadership and power now. It’s what they grew up hearing. It’s reinforced now.”
Coleman said there’s a time in life where youngsters solidify concepts, “a period of concrete learning, basically laying the brick over where the other learning will take place.” If one of those pillars of learning is reinforced by family and landscapes, “it’s more than just a base of knowledge. It has now become for some so entangled in their value systems or belief systems ... breaking that cycle is extremely difficult.”
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.16    one month ago

800

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago

don't use common sense like that.  reading comprehension is lacking and their heads will explode.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.25  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.22    one month ago
Maybe protesting at a school board meeting or the parent of someone protesting at a school board meeting. 

Sure.  One of the tiny percentage of kids who may have been using a particular textbook in the last year it was supposedly being used in some schools is now one of the tiny percentage of 56 years olds with grammar school aged kids would be perfectly okay with indoctrinating kids with left wing racism if only he hadn't been exposed to a few paragraphs in a text book almost 50 years ago. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.25    one month ago

It was more than one text book and they were used for more than one year. Anyone from 56 to 76 years old who went to public school in Virginia may have been taught from these racist textbooks. This is by any counting a lot of people. 

We hear more about "crt", a thousand time more, than that Virginia was teaching racist history to people who are middle aged today. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.27  epistte  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.19    one month ago

 Black people and the Antifa are not a threat to the stability of the country.  They are a response to the white supremacy and Neo-Nazis that Donald Trump has encouraged. White conservatives still have gotten over the Magna Carta, the Civil War, and VE day.  It could be decades until they accept that all other people are their equals, regardless of their race, gender, creed, sex, or other ideas, which is the result of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.28  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.26    one month ago
Anyone from 56 to 76 years old who went to public school in Virginia may have been taught from these racist textbooks.

Yes, it's all very vague exactly when and where this textbook was used. 

But because some kids were exposed to a book decades ago isn't justification for indoctrinating kids with racist  nonsense today.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.29  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.28    one month ago

I dont think its that vague. These were required lessons in Virginia schools. The only thing that seems vague is just how long into the 70's these books were used in classrooms. It seems they were used through the 70's but maybe not in every school district. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.30  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.29    one month ago
seems they were used through the 70's but maybe not in every school district. 

Regardless, the use of racist tropes in the 70s doesn't justify indoctrinating kids with racialist viewpoints in the 2020s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.31  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.30    one month ago

Virginia has a long history of extensive racism. 

And you dont want that taught to school kids in 2021. 

Sorry, I dont think you are going to get your way. It would be far better if these complaining white parents would just say, we need to do better to make sure we have a non racist society. 

White people are not victims of racism, now or ever. The sooner everyone gets on that page the sooner we can end all of this. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.32  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @2.1.27    one month ago
Black people and the Antifa are not a threat to the stability of the country.

Black people....no.  

Antifa...yes.

Putting those two groups in the same category..... how batshit is that?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.33  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.31    one month ago
d you dont want that taught to school kids in 2021. 

You are better than that John. No one is claiming that kids can't be taught about the past.  

t would be far better if these complaining white parents would just say, we need to do better to make sure we have a non racist society.

 we need to do better to make sure we have a non racist society.

If you want a non-racist society, stop discriminating on the basis of race and stop indoctrinating  kids that their race defines them and their life.  you want to destroy the US, keep pushing  identity politics. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.34  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.33    one month ago

White people are not now or ever the victims of racism. Yet we hear "white grievance" every day.  Why? 

Fear Of A Black And Brown Planet (U.S.) 

It explains almost everything about the past 15 years in this country. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.35  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.32    one month ago

Antifa are not a threat to the country. Grow up.

Antifa are only a threat to fascists, so if you feel that the Antifa are a threat to you then you by definition are a fascist or you support fascism.  They are a non-issue to me because I do not support fascism.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.36  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.31    one month ago
White people are not victims of racism, now or ever. 

That's just categorically ridiculous.

The sooner everyone gets on that page the sooner we can end all of this. 

The implication here is that as soon as everybody accepts this particular bit of batshit foolishness you won't immediately follow with another round of batshit foolishness.  I'm not sure evidence supports that.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.37  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @2.1.35    one month ago
Antifa are not a threat to the country. Grow up.

People who organize riots and violence are a threat to any civilized society.

Antifa are only a threat to fascists, so if you feel that the Antifa are a threat to you then you by definition are a fascist or you support fascism.  They are a non-issue to me because I do not support fascism.

That's the most idiotic comment on the internet today.

Those assholes are much bigger fascists than anybody they oppose.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.38  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.36    one month ago

I dont pay any attention to you anymore. Keep prattling on though if you must. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.39  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.16    one month ago

It seems to be a book about Colonial America (17th century) ... not the United States of America. Also, it was published in 1956 ... 65 years ago! Long before our Civil Rights movement and laws.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.41  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago
The seed proved it. You don't want to believe the innocent 6 year old?

A 6 yr old's interpretation of what's happening is wholly unreliable...because they're 6.

Further, we need to stop making curriculum decisions based on "feelings".  That's what the white guilt crowd want.  The idea that we're going to act based on the child's "feelings" is as indefensible as acting on the adult's "feelings" of guilt or whatever.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.42  Sean Treacy  replied to    one month ago
You want to destroy the US [sic], keep denying our past indiscretions.

No one is denying past indiscretions.  That's apparently the immortal  straw man that will never go away.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.44  bugsy  replied to  epistte @2.1.35    4 weeks ago
They are a non-issue to me because I do not support fascism

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Did you believe BLM did not loot and riot, too?

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.45  epistte  replied to  bugsy @2.1.44    4 weeks ago

It was not about Donald Trump. The BLM protests,. which were very peaceful for the most part, were about the deeper problem of systemic police abuse and racism that have still not been effectively addressed in the US. This was supposed to be settled with the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act but American conservatives still are fighting the idea that others are equal to WASP conservatives.

 Donald Trump only made the problem worse with his support of racism and fascism.

The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests —more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.46  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @2.1.45    4 weeks ago
The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests —more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

So roughly one of every 14 BLM protests resulted in violence.

There is literally no other activity in America that turns violent that often. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.47  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.46    4 weeks ago

I think that pro trump marches in Washington DC have a higher rate of violence than 7%. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.48  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.46    4 weeks ago

Klan rallies, Neo-Nazis, and the Proud Boys said to say hello...............

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.49  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.47    4 weeks ago
I think that pro trump marches in Washington DC have a higher rate of violence than 7%. 

I await your statistics.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.50  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @2.1.48    4 weeks ago
Klan rallies, Neo-Nazis, and the Proud Boys said to say hello...............

I await your statistics.

I am happy to see you recognize the league in which BLM "protests" belong. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.51  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.50    4 weeks ago

 Is the FBI also a liar?

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Christopher Wray bluntly labeled the January riot at the U.S. Capitol as “domestic terrorism” Tuesday and warned of a rapidly growing threat of homegrown violent extremism that law enforcement is scrambling to confront through thousands of investigations.

Wray also defended to lawmakers his own agency’s handling of an intelligence report that warned of the prospect for violence on Jan. 6. And he firmly rejected false claims advanced by some Republicans that anti-Trump groups had organized the deadly riot that began when a violent mob stormed the building as Congress was gathering to certify results of the presidential election.

Wray’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, his first before Congress since the insurrection, was one in a series of hearings centered on the law enforcement response to the Capitol insurrection. Lawmakers pressed him not only about possible intelligence and communication failures ahead of the riot but also about the threat of violence from white supremacists, militias and other extremists that the FBI says it is prioritizing with the same urgency as the menace of international terrorism organizations.   

The violence at the Capitol made clear that a law enforcement agency that remade itself after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to deal with international terrorism is now laboring to address homegrown violence by white Americans. President Joe Biden’s administration has tasked his national intelligence director to work with the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to assess the threat. And in applying the domestic terrorism label to conduct inside the Capitol, Wray sought to make clear to senators that he was clear-eyed about the scope and urgency of the problem.

In quantifying the scale of the FBI’s work, Wray said the number of domestic terrorism investigations has increased from around 1,000 when he became director in 2017 to roughly 1,400 at the end of last year to about 2,000 now. The number of arrests of white supremacists and other racially motivated extremists has almost tripled, he said.

Many of the senators’ questions Tuesday centered on the FBI’s handling of a Jan. 5 report from its Norfolk, Virginia, field office that warned of online posts foreshadowing a “war” in Washington the following day. Capitol Police leaders have said they were unaware of the report at the time, and the former chief of the department has said he received no intelligence from the FBI that would have led him to anticipate the sort of violence that besieged them on the 6th.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.52  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @2.1.51    4 weeks ago
Is the FBI also a liar?

Do you understand what lying is?  Please cite where I have accused anyone of lying.

I said I awaited your statistics.  Do you understand what statistics are?  Do you understand that you have not provided any statistics on acts of violence by white supremacists?

They surely could not have been that hard to find.  

We haven't even mentioned the average property damage from each of these "peaceful" events exceeds a quarter million dollars.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.53  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    4 weeks ago

Where is the proof?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.54  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.52    4 weeks ago
Do you understand what lying is? 

i only LIE when sitting up in bed

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.55  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.38    4 weeks ago

I put him on ignore a long time ago.  Just arguing for the sake of arguing.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago
So your contention is that a teacher told a six year old girl she was "born evil" ? Prove it. 

So you will believe a woman who claims she was assaulted some 30 years earlier, but won't believe a 6 year old who immediately tells what she heard?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2    one month ago

This is what they choose to deny. Parents have had enough of these indocrinated teachers who are teaching racism and gender confusion to 6 year olds.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    one month ago

Prove it.  Prove that a teacher told a six year old she is evil and prove the child said it to her mother. 

For all we know this parent is ku klux klan. 

Im not saying she is but there is as much evidence of that as there is that a teacher told a six year old she is evil. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago

So you will believe a woman who claims she was assaulted some 30 years earlier, but won't believe a 6 year old who immediately tells what she heard?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago
I think Mommy said it for her daughter. 

I'm taking the child's word. You don't want to because you're invested in CRT. Sorry, but this is what CRT is.

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.5  Veronica  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one month ago
I'm taking the child's word.

In this instance, however if the child said Trump abused her you wouldn't.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Veronica @2.2.5    one month ago

Don't forget - you and a few others here don't do hypotheticals.

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.7  Veronica  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.6    one month ago

DO NOT speak for me.  EVER.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Veronica @2.2.5    one month ago
In this instance, however if the child said Trump abused her you wouldn't.

She didn't say that, however, so no point made.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.9  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one month ago

No, Vic. You have repeatedly not answered me when asked what CRT actually was, and you do, through the posting of this article and the commentary that follows it, prove that you have no idea what CRT is. CRT, to you, is whatever you want it to be. It's alright though. Someday I will be dead and won't have to breathe the same air as racist bigots.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Thomas @2.2.9    one month ago
Someday I will be dead and won't have to breathe the same air as racist bigots.

You don't have to now.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.11  bugsy  replied to  Veronica @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

I don't think he spoke for you. I just think he highlighted how most liberals think.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.12  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @2.2.9    4 weeks ago
won't have to breathe the same air as racist bigots.

You can start that today by not voting for white liberals

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.13  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    4 weeks ago
I'm taking the child's word.

As a former classroom teacher, I can promise you that this is folly.

The best quote ever from "meet the teacher" night goes something like this:  "If you parents promise not to believe everything your child says happens at school, I promise not to believe everything they say happens at home."

 
 
 
epistte
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2.2.14  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

Nobody is treaching racism., They are teaching about accurate US history and where  racism placed a part, unless you want  to deny that slavery existed and the racism is still a problem in the US?   Maybe you should stop supporting racism if it is a problem for  you.

What  gender confusion are they teaching and how is gender confusion taught?   Does the fact that trans people exist openly with equal rights a problem for you?  

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.15  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.2.16  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.13    4 weeks ago

Was it folly to believe two girls were raped in school restrooms and that the schoolboard covered it up?


 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.13    4 weeks ago
As a former classroom teacher, I can promise you that this is folly.

Just-named Florida "teacher of the year" charged with abusing student

http:// hill.cm/KWB64Ga


How's that?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.18  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.16    4 weeks ago
Was it folly to believe two girls were raped in school restrooms and that the schoolboard covered it up?

Are we really going to have to explain the difference between a 6 year old's ability to grasp intellectual material and a 14 year old's ability to know when they've been assaulted?  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.19  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.17    4 weeks ago
Just-named Florida "teacher of the year" charged with abusing student http:// hill.cm/KWB64Ga How's that?

You read this story....and you actually believe this??

So let me get this straight.....

A 60-year-old lady....award-winning teacher....calls a teenage girl.... who is not her student... into class and bloodies her nose??? 

The fuck she did.

This girl is not in any of this teacher's classes....yet this sixty-year-old supposedly lost her mind and beat this teenage girl up over an Instagram post.   Because so many 60-year-olds are on Instagram... *eyeroll*  And apparently this woman is so good with her fists that a 15-year-old couldn't get a glove on her.  Riiiiiight.

How convenient is it that there were no witnesses?  Because teenage girls don't travel in packs or anything. 

What the fuck.  Lord of the Rings is more believable. 

So your choices here Vic are that you can believe Story A...where absolutely everyone behaves in an utterly implausible manner, or you can read through the nonsense and figure out Story B, where the bratty leftist teenage girl hears that decorated teacher has failed to censor the racial slurs from Of Mice and Men while reading to the class along with various other "microaggressions", so she fabricates an outlandish bullshit story to get the teacher fired.  

Which sounds more believable to you, Vic?  The Sextagenarian Pugilist or The Angry Leftist Teenage Liar?

Don't believe everything kids say, any more than you believe everything politicians say.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.13    4 weeks ago

Jack, you nailed it. As a former teacher, I couldn't have said it better.

And you gave me a good laugh with:

"If you parents promise not to believe everything your child says happens at school, I promise not to believe everything they say happens at home."

So true!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.21  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.19    4 weeks ago

There are good teachers and bad teachers. A good teacher teaches kids how to think. A bad teacher teaches kids what to think.

It's time to eliminate tenure throughout the entire education system.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.22  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.21    4 weeks ago
There are good teachers and bad teachers. A good teacher teaches kids how to think. A bad teacher teaches kids what to think.It's time to eliminate tenure throughout the entire education system.

I taught in schools with no tenure, but frankly it didn't matter all that much.  Demand is high and supply is low, so lots of poor teachers keep their jobs even without tenure.

Personally, I think we have more of a management problem than we do a teacher problem.  So, so, so many people running schools and school districts have no clue in hell what they're doing.  They get the basics of organizational management so wrong in so many ways, it's just staggering.

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.2.23  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.21    4 weeks ago
tenure is a protection sort of like seniority in other jobs 
I worked a private school for 29 years, 28 at supervisor or director level, but not regular classroom.  Teaching or staff, school can be a stressful and burnout job and one mistake can ruin your career. It not tenure there should be early retirement available.  Although 4 of the best teachers we had taught until their late 70s      

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
2.2.24  Gordy327  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.22    4 weeks ago
They get the basics of organizational management so wrong in so many ways, it's just staggering.

It always comes down to politics and bureaucrats, sometimes who are in the role of managing something they have no clue about.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.25  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.22    4 weeks ago

I'm more concerned with pervasive ideology than incompetence.

Thanks for the input. Others can't seem to face the music today.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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2.2.26  JaneDoe  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.22    4 weeks ago
Personally, I think we have more of a management problem than we do a teacher problem.  So, so, so many people running schools and school districts have no clue in hell what they're doing. 

My son and daughter-in-law are both teachers in different districts. He complains about this almost daily. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.27  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.25    4 weeks ago
I'm more concerned with pervasive ideology than incompetence.

People who are actually well-educated instead of just rubber stamped with meaningless degrees are much more resistant to ridiculous ideology.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Perfect timing btw!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Sadly, this isn't new. Earlier this  year we had the head of an elite grammar school in Manhattan admit  that their teachers  demonized white kids for being born. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

Very good article Sean.

That's required reading.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 weeks ago

You guys realize that Grace Church School is a private school and not part of the NYC school system. What they teach is up to the parents and facility of that school. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

So you are at least recognizing that the demonization of white students actually took place at a private school?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Principal
4.1.3  epistte  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

How are white students being demonized?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago
demonized white kids for being born

White kids can be amazing, smart, caring, honest, empathetic and understanding, as long as you get them away from the rotten putrid vile racist trees they sometimes fall from. Those decayed trees with their putrescent ideology are desperate to pass on their hate and prejudice which is why they are coming out of the wormwood to fight against any teaching that tells the truth of their past and their ancestors history and they've labeled such truths "CRT" as a convenient straw man they can take their hate out on.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2    one month ago
White kids can be amazing, smart, caring, honest, empathetic and understandin

So generous of you!  I'm glad you recognize white kids are humans.   I didn't know that the possibility of white kids being honest was an issue. 

ut of the wormwood to fight against any teaching that tells the truth of their past and their ancestors history

Are you that insecure that you must lie about the terms of the debate? No one is claiming that kids shouldn't be taught the truth of the past. Do you think repeating the big lie will just wear down people's defenses? 

hey've labeled such truths "CRT" as a convenient straw man

There should be a warning on your post about potentially lethal amounts of irony. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.1    4 weeks ago
I'm glad you recognize white kids are humans.

Of course I do, I have two of them myself. It takes years and years of right wing religious conservative indoctrination to warp them into weak sniveling bitter whiny bigots who march with tiki torches along with fellow Nazi's and other white nationalists in protest of a confederate monument removal shouting "Jews will not replace us!". I've no doubt which side of the CRT debate those pricks are on, and it's not mine.

No one is claiming that kids shouldn't be taught the truth of the past

That is exactly what the anti-CRT crowd are preaching, they want a whitewashing of history, pure and simple.

Do you think repeating the big lie will just wear down people's defenses?

You should ask that of dirty Donald's sycophants who have been keeping up their 'big lie' for a year now. If irony were actually lethal conservatism would have died out long ago.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.2    4 weeks ago

s years and years of right wing religious conservative indoctrination to

How many years of indoctrination does it take to cause someone to become so obessesed with their racist world view that they believe it's appropriate to teach children that their race defines them and that its appropriate to treat kids differently within a racist hierarchy or victims and oppressors? 

actly what the anti-CRT crowd are preaching, they want a whitewashing of history, pure and simple

Its sad that you literally have to resort to making things up. 

u should ask that of dirty Donald's sycophants who have been keeping up their 'big lie' for a year no

I'm asking you because you continue to spread lies.  Why can't you deal with reality?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
5  Sean Treacy    one month ago

And now McAuliffe thinks white people teaching minority kids is a problem.  It never ends. Race uber alles for the left. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

"What , Me Racist?"  Virginia edition

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4/7/2010

www.csmonitor.com   /USA/2010/0407/Virginia-governor-Is-it-so-wrong-to-love-the-Old-South

Virginia governor: Is it so wrong to love the Old South?

Patrik Jonsson 5-6 minutes   Invalid Date


Atlanta

After living through a   decade of attacks   against the Confederate battle flag and school administrators suspending students who wear   Dixie regalia , Virginia   Gov. Bob McDonnell   (R) is, like a true   Johnny Reb , fighting back.

By reinstating   Confederate History Month   after previous Democratic governors banned it in the   Old Dominion , Governor McDonnell says he wants to remember the South's sacrifices ahead of sesquicentennial commemorations of the Civil War, which start next year. This is the state that housed the Confederate government in   Richmond   and where most of the Civil War, the country's bloodiest campaign, was fought.

But the designation by the   Virginia   governor for the month of April is bringing back ideas and symbols that many Americans – including many Southerners – find offensive and divisive. It could derail efforts to win favor among   Democrats , not to mention Southern blacks, and it could drive a cultural wedge into the Republican Party as it looks for ways to win in November.

On the other hand, McDonnell's proclamation could also rally a substantial conservative base that's felt beleaguered by attempts to, if not rewrite, effectively banish Confederate history.

Some see those attempts as part of a political correctness movement. "If the proclamation does anything, it hopefully will be a nail in the coffin of political correctness," writes   Brag Bowling , commander of the Virginia division of the   Sons of Confederate Veterans .

The   National Association for the Advancement of Colored People   and other groups have for years fought against   Southern states   keeping Confederate symbols, especially on public lands such as capitol grounds and public colleges. To many, the Old South is a slave-holding blot on history and deserves to be demoted in the annals of history.

Indeed, most appalling to critics is McDonnell's decision to leave out references to slavery, which were included in a previous proclamation. McDonnell's declaration asks Virginians to "understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War ...."

He did not mention slavery, he told   The Washington Post , because "there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states." He continues, "Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia."

"Confederate history is full of many things that unfortunately are not put forth in a proclamation of this kind, nor are they things that anyone wants to celebrate," former Virginia Gov.   L. Douglas Wilder , who is the first African-American to win the governor's office in Virginia,   tells the Post . "It's one thing to sound a cause of rallying a base. But it's quite another to distort history."

One backdrop to efforts like McDonnell's declaration is what   Southern Legal Resource Center   founder   Kirk Lyons   describes as a situation where Southerners are facing discrimination, harassment, humiliation, employment termination, and school suspensions "simply because they're proud of their Confederate ancestry."

At the same time, some Southerners are starting to reclaim their heritage, in part by flying   giant Confederate flags   along Southern interstates.

McDonnell, who has been known as a staunch social conservative, avoided hot-button cultural issues during a governor's race that was seen as a repudiation of recent Democratic victories across the   United States . But he has since waded into cultural issues such the   gay rights debate   and now Confederate commemorations.

Politically, McDonnell's move shows the   tone-deafness of Republicans , writes   Charles Johnson   in True/Slant, an online news network. "Republicans like McDonnell are reveling in their racism, and pandering to the most vile segments of US society," he writes. "And then they whine and complain when African Americans want nothing to do with them."

Shawn Rider , in a review of   Tony Horwitz 's "Confederates in the Attic," writes that the age-old pull between the darker meaning of the Civil War's symbols and the affection Southerners have for their ancestors who fought and died in the Civil War is an   enduring American condition .

"[G]reat enthusiasm leads to reverence for ancestors that do not necessarily deserve it," he concludes. "Still, it is not as if any individual can decide for another which ancestors are worth revering… [W]e need the courage to confront our [past] head on ...."

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
7  Kathleen    4 weeks ago

School is a place that should boost your confidence and help you to learn and get along with other students. It gives you the experience to be around others and to express yourself. It is not a place to make you feel that you are to be punished because of your race and what happened over a 100 years ago. Blame the people that were involved during that time, but do not blame people that had nothing to do with it now, especially the children.  History should be taught, but there should be no 'shaming' of a child for what others did long ago. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
7.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @7    4 weeks ago
School is a place that should boost your confidence and help you to learn and get along with other students.

Absolutely, though boosting confidence should not come at the expense of truth.

It is not a place to make you feel that you are to be punished because of your race and what happened over a 100 years ago.

There is zero evidence that any K-12 school is actively teaching any CRT curriculum and there is no teaching standard being pushed by any Democrats, liberals or progressives to teach children that whites are evil or that white children should be "punished" because of their race. They should be taught the facts however, facts like how it's only been 57 years since the civil rights act was passed and just 54 years since bans on interracial marriage were ruled unconstitutional. We may want to pretend it's been "over 100 years" but there are many people living today who grew up segregated, were hit with fire hoses for attempting to attend public schools, had police dogs sicked on them, were arrested for refusing to give up their seat on a bus or daring to enter a whites only establishment or restaurant. It's only been since 1981 when the last KKK lynching occurred, that's well within most of our life times. These are all facts our children deserve to know, not to make them feel guilty but to educate them about the real dangers of prejudice and so we never repeat such behavior in the future.

Blame the people that were involved during that time, but do not blame people that had nothing to do with it now, especially the children.

While it appears many on the right are imagining teachers telling white kids they are evil or some shit, this is false. There may be a overzealous teacher here or there who makes such idiotic comments to her students but there is no actual K-12 curriculum that teaches such things. What the anti-CRT crowd is doing is manufacturing a straw man to attack in which they include any teaching that puts whites or white culture in a bad light, that teaches children the ugly truth about our ancestors and even many today who grew up in those divisions and have harbored those prejudices in their hearts for decades, angry with the civil rights laws and angry that they've had to essentially hide their once open bigotry in the closet.

With Trumps Presidency he gave these folk cover and so we've seen them come out of the woodwork, march with their tiki torches, protest confederate monument removals, wave their confederate flags and swastika side by side and demand their right to discriminate against those they hate or consider "sinners". This is why we need to teach children the truth and not gloss over the horror of treatment suffered by black Americans for hundreds of years in our nation. It would be like teaching WWII to German children but completely leaving out concentration camps and the genocide of over 7 million humans just to keep their feelings from being hurt.

there should be no 'shaming' of a child for what others did long ago

Of course there should be no intentional shaming of children. There should only be teaching the facts, warts and all, and if a child feels shame derived from knowing that their white ancestors did something like own slaves, fought to conserve slavery or supported segregation and considered black Americans inferior, then it's a teaching opportunity to assure that child that they do not have to carry the burdens of their ancestors and can be conscious of prejudice and work to overcome it if they find themselves treating others that don't look like them or worship like them differently.

It's important to teach the true effects of racism and hate. Absorbing or learning prejudices from grandparents, parents or peers then holding on to it like a burning coal will only hurt themselves and continue a cycle of pain and suffering.

"Can a man take fire to his bosom, And his clothes not be burned?" Proverbs 6:27

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1    4 weeks ago

What I got from your message is that you are part of the problem.

 
 
 
Sunshine
PhD Guide
7.1.2  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1    4 weeks ago

There are no secrets about the history of slavery in the US.  Your ongoing ramblings about some cover up about it is ridiculous.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @7.1.1    4 weeks ago

I am sure people think the same of you.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Kathleen  replied to  Sunshine @7.1.2    4 weeks ago

Exactly. I remember for a long period of time being taught about the civil war. We did a long segment on slavery. Then we all realized it was something that was wrong that happened in the past. Then we all realized it’s something that should not be repeated and then we moved on.....

Just about everyone, except for a few idiots understand that. 

As far as the ancestors go, how would anyone know what our ancestors did and thought. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
7.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Kathleen @7.1.4    4 weeks ago

It's called anthropology.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Kathleen  replied to  Hallux @7.1.5    4 weeks ago

Yes, I am aware of that, but I was talking about ‘my’ ancestors.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
7.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @7.1.1    4 weeks ago
What I got from your message is that you are part of the problem.

So far no one here has been able to actually show any hard evidence of a problem. A parent claiming their child asked them if they were evil doesn't prove that the school district is pushing some "whites are evil" CRT history curriculum.

First actually prove there is a problem before demanding solutions. How can K-12 schools stop teaching something they aren't teaching? Or do you also believe it's "subliminal" messaging from the liberals and Democrats thus there is no evidence, it's just in the air?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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7.1.8  Gazoo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.7    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7.1.9  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1    4 weeks ago
There is zero evidence that any K-12 school is actively teaching any CRT curriculum and there is no teaching standard being pushed by any Democrats, liberals or progressives to teach children that whites are evil or that white children should be "punished" because of their race.

Then the "anti-CRT" laws shouldn't be a problem.  Especially since they're not really anti-CRT anyway.

First actually prove there is a problem before demanding solutions.

Solving imaginary problems is standard political practice for both parties and has been for decades.

Frankly, I'm not sure I agree.  I'd much rather have them spending their efforts on "solutions" to non-problems that don't really impact anything as opposed to focusing their ineptitude on real things that actually matter and screwing them up further. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
7.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.9    4 weeks ago
Then the "anti-CRT" laws shouldn't be a problem.

Claim:   HB 1775 bans the teaching of critical race theory in Oklahoma schools.

Source:   Widespread media reports

Fact check:   Mostly false

Critical race theory, or CRT, is not a curriculum but instead a process for studying history that grew out of the work of legal scholars Derrick Bell, Richard Delgado and Kimberlé Crenshaw. The theory holds that racism is not purely a result of individual prejudice but also ingrained in systems, such as housing policy, the criminal justice system and voting laws, according to its   original use and continued adaptation   by scholars and historians. 

House Bill 1775   bans the teaching that one race is superior to another, or teaching that a person is “inherently racist, sexist or oppressive” because of their race. These are not concepts of critical race theory and the bill does not appear to ban the teaching of systemic racism or how past acts of racism still impact people today . It also does not appear to ban discussions about how a person may participate or benefit from racist systems without knowing it. 

For example, a white student is not told they are “inherently racist” just because they are taught they might still benefit from a   historic housing system   that once banned black families from living in desirable communities.

Claim:   Oklahoma City Community College has cancelled classes dealing with race in response to HB 1775. 

Source:   Claims surfaced on Twitter that Oklahoma City Community College had started cancelling    summer classes   in response to the new law.  

Fact check:   True

OCCC officials said a class for health professions majors in the social sciences division related to race and equity was removed from the summer schedule

Claim:   HB 1775 will change the way history is taught in public schools after complaints from parents about classroom discussions on race. 

Source:   Education Secretary Ryan Walters said HB 1775 was   “probably the No. 1 topic I’m asked about” by parents concerned their children are being taught about white privilege and inherent racial traits.

Mostly false:   State education officials have said they have never heard a complaint about a teacher using a curriculum that claims one person’s race is lesser or that a person is responsible for racism because of their own race. Although state education officials said they will review the new law in detail over the summer and offer any necessary guidance to schools in the fall. 
-Ben Felder

There is no actual CRT curriculum, the anti-CRT laws are simply muzzling teachers from speaking about race and preventing school districts from enacting any sort of racial insensitivity training for teachers even though Oklahoma State education officials " have never heard a complaint about a teacher using a curriculum that claims one person’s race is lesser or that a person is responsible for racism because of their own race".

Much like how Republicans have used non-existent voter fraud to scare their gullible conservative voters into passing onerous voter ID laws to indirectly disenfranchise minority voters, now they are using non-existent CRT curriculums to scare gullible conservative voters into passing onerous laws that prevent teachers from having any sort of rational discussion about racial disparities.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
7.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.11    4 weeks ago
Claim:   HB 1775 bans the teaching of critical race theory in Oklahoma schools. Fact check:   Mostly false

Hence the quotes around "anti-CRT".

the anti-CRT laws are simply muzzling teachers from speaking about race 

Are they?  You just said that teachers haven't been doing anything the law prohibits anyway, and your own source indicates there have been no complaints.

onerous voter ID laws to indirectly disenfranchise minority voters

This is one of the most racist views I hear anywhere.  The idea that minority voters are somehow so helpless and pathetic that they can't manage to obtain an ID is ridiculous and offensive.

laws that prevent teachers from having any sort of rational discussion about racial disparities.

That's not hyperbolic nonsense or anything. *eyeroll* 

Again, you've just said none of this was happening. What conversations were they having that are now mysteriously prohibited?   

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
7.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to    4 weeks ago
If that is the actuality, and it is difficult to offer a counterpoint, then the problem lies squarely with us for enabling such ineptitude. We can, and must, demand better. 

Maybe.  I agree the problem is us, but I'm not sure the mistake is necessarily who we elect.

I think we (the electorate) need to step back, take a look at ourselves, and question what supposed problems we want the government agencies to solve and whether we've done everything we can otherwise do to solve them ourselves.

I think we've been conditioned over the decades (or centuries) to actually believe charismatic, smooth talking politicians who tell us as they're runnning for office that they can get the government to solve whatever problem they tell us needs solving. 

When they get elected and subsequently and predictably fail abjectly to solve the problem in question, we believe whatever bullshit they tell us about how it was the other party's fault... or worse yet... we believe them when they say they've solved it despite overwhelming observable evidence to the contrary.

Over the last 50 years or so, the greatest periods of peace and prosperity in this country have coincided with gridlock.  Tip O'neal fought with Reagan.  Newt Gingrich fought with Clinton.  Ryan and Mitch McConnell blocked Obama.  During each of those periods, we had minimal government "helping", so people went on about their business and thrived in the way Americans typically do when left alone.

So I'm not sure we need "better", and I'm honestly not sure that's a realistic expecation.  I'll be content if we can just slow down whoever is there.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.12    4 weeks ago
This is one of the most racist views I hear anywhere.  The idea that minority voters are somehow so helpless and pathetic that they can't manage to obtain an ID is ridiculous and offensive.

Republican legislators requested data on voting patterns by race and , with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision ," the court said.

It's not about anyone saying someone is "helpless and pathetic", it's about slimy racists studying and using voting habits to create laws that take advantage of those habits to discourage or make it harder for those voters to exercise their right to vote. That's why Republicans are trying to make cuts to early voting, eliminate same-day registration, reduce or eliminate drop boxes, allow in person voting locations to close as early as 5pm, limit or cancel Sunday voting, limit or ban mail in voting, ban out-of-precinct voting and preregistration of high school students.

More than half of all voters in NC where Republicans passed the law that targeted black Americans "with surgical precision" use early voting, and African-Americans do so at higher rates than whites. African-Americans also tend to overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.

"We understand very clearly the intentionality around voter suppression. And it feels like Jim Crow," said Corine Mack, the president of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg NAACP.

Republicans have been using the bullshit excuse of voter fraud they can't prove to disenfranchise voters they know are unlikely to vote for their parties candidate. And now they're using the scary straw man of CRT to scare the public into supporting ignorant laws that are already being challenged in court that would put teachers under scrutiny for saying anything about race. While no school is actually using any sort of CRT curriculum, these laws have a chilling effect on any teacher who might now have to think twice about even responding to questions from students that involve race, gender equality or lgtbq community.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
7.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.14    4 weeks ago
And now they're using the scary straw man of CRT to scare the public into supporting ignorant laws

What exactly do you object to in HB 1775?  Have you read it?  

that would put teachers under scrutiny for saying anything about race.

Where does it say that in the law?

While no school is actually using any sort of CRT curriculum, these laws have a chilling effect on any teacher who might now have to think twice about even responding to questions from students that involve race, gender equality or lgtbq community.

So..... these teachers that are not doing something now are somehow going to be afraid of continuing to not do the thing you keep saying they're not doing.  

The fact is that the text of the law could easily have been written by a civil rights activist, and if Democrats had sponsored it you would hail it as the greatest achievement of the 21st century.   

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
8  Hallux    4 weeks ago

This story has holes in it big enough to drive a tank through Virginia.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
9  Steve Ott    4 weeks ago

I find this to be a rather disingenuous article. Mere allegation with no facts or proof.1st grade is most often concerned with learning the ABC's, counting to 10 and some spelling. There also seems to be a lot of coloring involved.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Steve Ott @9    4 weeks ago

I totally agree Steve.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
9.1.1  Steve Ott  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    4 weeks ago

The thing that bothers me most about these things: What are the parents teaching their children?

That the way to get what you want is to yell, scream and threaten? How is that going to go over in the home when the children emulate what their parents are doing?

 
 
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