formed thought a "woke" Chicago jury would never convic
IT took a special prosecutor who made his bones prosecuting Iran Contra because the DA's office was too compromised to handle the case, but sure, this is a banner day for Chicago.
"What happened today to @JussieSmollett must never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up and demand that we no longer give this hate safe harbor; that homophobia and racism have no place on our streets or in our hearts. We are with you, Jussie."
"What happened today to @JussieSmollett must never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up and demand that we no longer give this hate safe harbor; that homophobia and racism have no place on our streets or in our hearts. We are with you, Jussie."Joe Biden
What a clueless tool!
It was reported on the radio yesterday that the prosecutor had to be ordered to prosecute, they really didn't want to but was forced to by the DA... Prosecute this or find a new line of work type thing...
So you are saying that every republican is so racist that they would not support protesting of the unlawful killing of a minority by law enforcement? Okay, I guess you are the right wing expert.
Nice way to deflect and avoid answering what was asked, but expected.
The only way that could possibly be an answer is if you were able to prove that not a single BLM member is republican. Can you do that and document your proof? Or are you talking out of the wrong hole on your body...AGAIN?
So you are saying that every republican is so racist that they would not support protesting of the unlawful killing of a minority by law enforcement? Okay, I guess you are the right wing expert.
I would prefer you not to make up stories about what I have written. It is a lazy and intellectually immature way to debate.
The only way that could possibly be an answer is if you were able to prove that not a single BLM member is republican.
I would also prefer if you actually read my entire question or statement instead of glossing over it.
For the record, here is my entire statement which you have managed to mangle all to hell and back:
BLM supports him, do you think they are not Democrats for the most part?
If one actually does read what I wrote, they will find I mentioned Republicans exactly zero times. I also didn't claim that every BLM member is a Democrat, as PLAINLY written right in front of you. I highlighted the part you missed or ignored.
I didn't make the claim, texan1211 has to do his own job.
Why the insistence on obtuseness now?
I said BLM supports him.
When a spokesman issues a supportive statement, it stands to reason the organization he represents is behind it.
I never said ALL Democrats, this is just yet another deflection from you, going off on some tangent because it is easier for you to twist words and invent them than it is for you to debate honestly.
Yes you did, and offered no evidence to support that claim. You are, once again, over generalizing.
When a spokesman issues a supportive statement, it stands to reason the organization he represents is behind it.
Bullshit! It means that the spokesman, himself supports it. The same as if a union representative makes the same type of statement. It speaks to the union, but not each individual member of that union.
I never said ALL Democrats
Never claimed you did. Are you trying to distract and deflect again?
Yes you did, and offered no evidence to support that claim. You are, once again, over generalizing.
Read and understand post 1.5.10, including the LINK.
Bullshit! It means that the spokesman, himself supports it. The same as if a union representative makes the same type of statement. It speaks to the union, but not each individual member of that union.
I can't understand it for you, and refuse to be dragged into your obtuseness.
If a union head says he is striking, do you think that maybe, just maybe, he is talking about his union striking? Do you think only a small portion of workers would strike or something?
Never claimed you did. Are you trying to distract and deflect again?
You have successfully managed to add nothing to this conversation.
Read and understand post 1.5.10, including the LINK.
The link to 1 person's opinion? Why?
I can't understand it for you, and refuse to be dragged into your obtuseness.
You are way to firmly situated in your own "obtuseness".
If a union head says he is striking, do you think that maybe, just maybe, he is talking about his union striking?
Wow, comparing apples to oranges?
If a union head says he is striking, do YOU think that means it was a unanimous decision by all members??? Because that is equivalent to what you are claiming with BLM.
You have successfully managed to add nothing to this conversation.
So BLM consists of 1 person? Your attempts to support your claim are getting ridiculous. It doesn't matter if the person supports them, we are talking about all members of BLM, and you claimed that ALL of them support Jussie. Your attempts to deflect around that claim are outlandish.
Look, I can't understand this for you
That's because I am not a brain dead right winger that accepts as fact anything ion my spam folder.
choose to be obtuse
LOL! Is that your word of the day? Is it posted on your breakroom door? [deleted]
They should be embarrassed at their fawning coverage of his alleged "attack" and their breathless reporting of Biden's and Harris' outrage at such an event occurring! Of course, then they would have to be honest with themselves and actually report how Biden and Harris really screwed the pooch on this by yapping about shit they know nothing about.
What a sad and bizarre story. I don’t know what his personal life was like, but he had a perfectly good career going, and I would assume that is over now.
Although I think a little time behind bars is deserved for this charade I don’t think he will either. Probably some community service and maybe electronic monitoring for a while.
I should have known when he wouldn't take the rope off of his neck.
I thought the same thing back then. Seems like the first thing a person would want to do would be to remove any restraints applied during the assault.
It's possible that he would have gotten away with his nonsense had he not trash-talked the police on the front steps of the jail when he bonded out. The entire statement was one big fat dare to law enforcement. To Jussie's self-entitled surprise, the prosecutor took him up on his dare and moved forward with the case.
On a distantly related side note, one of Jussie Smollett's Empire co-workers made a fool out of herself several years ago. Taraji Henson's son, Marcell Johnson, was stopped twice by police, once for driving irradicably and subsequently found to be in position of marijuana, and once for behaving in an assaultive manner at USC where he was a student. He claimed to his mother that he was racially profiled on both occasions, and Taraji went nuts in a hugely public way. In defense of the officers involved, both law enforcement agencies released tapes of the encounters, which revealed Marcell to be one big fat liar. To her credit, Taraji issued public apologies, but then proceeded to give all kinds of lame excuses for her son's behavior. Thank goodness there was solid proof Marcell was lying. Otherwise, the officers involved would probably have lost their jobs, and lawsuits would have been commencing all over the place.
Yes Sister, there is enough stress and strain to go around. All these cases tee-off one another where the real damage sometimes is to determine who exactly is telling the truth (first)! 'Cases -taking a live of their own.'
Many a pastor and preacher is known to shout out: "The Devil Is A Lie." That is, this won't be allowed to stand once the truth is brought forward and out!
It kills me how some are all up in arms - how the President and Vice President - didn't see through this charade . . . whatever . . . but once the truth was known . . . who still supports him?
Yeah, funny how when that idiot Trump did the same crap, the left was all over him for it. Now the the right does the same when when Biden and Harris can't keep their mouths shut and complains, the left cannot stand it. It would be really comical if it was not so pathetic!
But they didn't keep their mouths shut. And though in some instances it would be a better discretion to reserve 'speak' sometimes people have an unction to want to speak even out of 'turn.' That said, Tesslyo is absolutely correct in that the 'error' when found out is not perpetuated.
Donald Trump is a complete JERK who tries to dominate people (and has great success that empowers him to try even harder to repeat) in his sphere of influence with laborious lies and deceptions.
It is not a true comparison (and reasonable people know it). Do not associate Joe Biden and Kamala Harris with Trump—Donald won't like that!
Sorry, I call em like I see them. I don't dislike Trump more than I do Biden and Harris. I dislike them equally. I try to be equal in my politics. Not always, but I do try.
Let's be clear, you are free to dislike whomsoever you wish. It is evidentially not the case that Donald Trump (who won't even act "presidential" as a former president) is a man of integrity, nevertheless. I would like to think you can find something of integrity in Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. That said, to each his or her own.
I understand what you are saying and respect that, but from my perspective, I have yet to see anything of integrity from either Biden or Harris so far. But that is my own perspective. A good day to you Sir.
Sir, you are so respectful (of me) that I want to return the sentiment. However, what does one man as president have to do to earn your respect? Integrity is defined as doing right or the best one can in good, tense, frustrating, and grave times. Donald Trump wants to be 'received' as a threat to anybody who crosses him by hook or crook; Joe Biden and Kamala Harris simply are not like that!
When a man, woman, boy, or girl is doing 'what the Lord loves' to the best of his or her ability, why inpugn or malign? Give praise where praise is do. I say. Donald Trump does not want praise, he wants obeisance. Accompanied by a great amount of 'bowing and scraping.'
(I write this in furtherance of discussion and do regard your discomfort with Biden and Harris, nevertheless.)
The most glaring thing I can bring up regarding the lack of integrity regarding Biden and Harris is the ongoing fiasco at our Southern Border with Mexico. (Believe me there are plenty more than I could go into here) You do not live where I do and you do not see the every day situation down here that I and other residents here do. You and others only see and hear what CNN, MSNBC, and other liberal media spoon feed the populace with and believe it. When was the last time Biden set foot on the border and spent more than a 10 minute photo op? Harris is a even bigger joke. She made one trip to a "safe and secluded" area of the border where the mass crossing were not even occurring and only did pretty much of a drive through just so she could say she went to the border. And this is the Border Czar who is supposed to be taking care of the problem(s)? Did not even stop to talk to border residents. There are people hurting on this side of the border and the Biden administration is turning a blind eye to them, and does not even want to talk about it except to put all blame on his predecessor. How is that integrity? My apologies for venting but this is a very serious situation for me that a lot of the rest of the country does not seem to care much about. Out of sight out of mind I guess.
You make an interestingly great point! I can not see from California what is going on in Texas or any of our southern borders in person. Consequently, I am forced to speak from a lack of personal experience and base anything I 'utter' on the statements of others. And, we all do this all the time! For example, I have never been shot (and do not wish to be) and am told it is a very devastating experience which can alter many perceptions first-hand.
The thing is this. I won't start pointing fingers at FOX NEWS or NEWSMAX or any other uniquely conservative perspective if you will not talk to me like I am some 'child' without capability to understand your 'plight' around your locale - as you would be equally hard pressed to comprehend my perspective in California problems, issues, and day to day "dramas." (Dynamics.)
I do not know why Harris or Biden cant solve the border issue. . . . Others have not as well. And neither party wants to incrementally work out the "kinks" (and they are paid to do so) in immigration reform or policy.
Now then, that is not a good, or great, example of integrity, nevertheless. For the border "crisis," issue, paradox, or dilemma is fraught with challenges equal to the former political "fire" that was healthcare for a "growing" nation.
Pick something else.
That being said. It would be remiss if I did not point out that Trump (2016) PROMISED TO BUILT A GORGEOUS WALL WITH A DOOR "immediately" in his administration and five years later that job is unaccomplished. All while he managed to lie, lie, lie, about a myriad of other presidential matters and policies.
Finally, I can respect your pain at the lack of proper and suitably pleasing border policy. Just consider this: I have similar angst and worry over voting rights which are in 'reverse' and a congress, VP, and President who are about to "do nothing" or will be limited in making national voting policy whole again for all citizens of this country. Still, I can not state that integrity of Harris and Biden is the lacking denominator for lack of renewed interest in voting rights legislation.
Ed-NavDoc, I thank you for this privilege of your discussion!
In my comments, I was not referring to you personally and I apologize if it seemed that way. I was being general in my comments.
If you wish to point fingers at other conservative leaning networks, by all means do so as it makes no difference to me. In their own way, FOX and Newsmax are just as bad to me.
Trump made and continues to make a lot of stupid statements and he made promises he never had any intention of keeping and obviously the wall built by Mexico was the biggest. People in high office routinely make big promises to get elected. Biden is no better. Just part of life in the swamp that is DC nowadays.
I very much agree with most of your last paragraph. Where we disagree is the extent of or lack of integrity of the current POTUS and VP. My thanks for your polite and insightful comments.
Frankly, Jussie Smollett is a problem. And to date, this brilliant entertainer, boy is he a good singer/actor combo on a top show. A show topper on Fox Broadcasting Company of all places! And for the life of me, I wish Jussie would relent and tell us why he killed off that powerfully emotional show that was a 'power-house' of star creation for young up and coming Blacks and Other performers.
Jussie wiped it out - just like that.
I will forgive him for doing this to his "gay-self influence" on the culture (a set-back), but I will never forget the loss he has equally caused.
(CB spits.) I am not sure this young man full of talent is mentally well.
Jussie Smollett is a foolish young man who will live to regret (unless he 'hurts' himself) the loss of his acceptance into the high and lofty places of 'American' society. This brilliant young man sang before a president at the White House. And then, he stooped so low as to throw it all away. . . . If there is a lesson here, it is not to envy others' their successes, even as he strived (past tense) to get more of his own. Now, he is an outcast: He may never work in Hollywood again.
Oh and I think at critical "inspection" it is a bit rich for Jussie to claim racism (and shows ineptness and amateurishness) for a black man to be "molested" by two other larger black men due to his race or ethnic makeup. Racism is charged by someone against someone else who is "Not."
On a positive note, I was so proud of Jussie Smollett, "Empire," and FOX Broadcasting for taking up the "strange" dichotomy of promoting a homosexual HEADLINER in a major television series (not targeted at homosexuals). Who could imagine that the homosexual real-life character would crumble under the stress of representing so many who needed him to shine at the apex of a sterling career?
Jussie Smollett is black, homosexual, attractive, and notable. In the words of Phil Collins, he was caught red-handed, "throwing it all away."
And now, EMPIRE is shuttered. FOX BROADCASTING is. . . licking its wounds over a loss it could not have factored, and the show's homosexual creator, Lee Daniels, is besmirched just for giving a young homosexual singer the chance of a lifetime to be somebody great!
And yes, the ADDED TOUCH of blaming "MAGA" is insult to injury. Jussie Smollett is one bad and confused young man. May he get some help (now). May he continue to live to comprehend the scale of this error. Lastly, may he be able to endure it.
The underinformed thought a "woke" Chicago jury would never convict.
Oh well.
IT took a special prosecutor who made his bones prosecuting Iran Contra because the DA's office was too compromised to handle the case, but sure, this is a banner day for Chicago.
"What happened today to @JussieSmollett must never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up and demand that we no longer give this hate safe harbor; that homophobia and racism have no place on our streets or in our hearts. We are with you, Jussie."
Joe Biden
that was today?
lol.
No, that was Biden blowing smoke up someone's ass without even knowing what the hell he was yapping about.
Sounds like another day ending in a "y" for Biden and those who like to try to cover for him.
SOSDD
What a clueless tool!
It was reported on the radio yesterday that the prosecutor had to be ordered to prosecute, they really didn't want to but was forced to by the DA... Prosecute this or find a new line of work type thing...
I am sure some folks thought that after the sweetheart deal the former State's Attorney gave him before at last sanity prevailed.
I guess it was the way they rushed him to trial.
It gets on my last nerve how some say democrats support/supported him - no matter what.
Once the truth was found out, how all this was staged, who still supports him???????????????????????????????
That would be a good comparison.
How many democrats still openly support Jussie, after being shown that his claim was false.
Compared to....
How many republicans still openly support Trump, after being shown that his claim was false.
While the 2 claims are different, the support, despite the evidence, would be equivalent.
BLM supports him, do you think they are not Democrats for the most part?
It would be up to you to prove they are, individually.
ROFLMAO!!!
Surely you jest.
SMMFH
Nice way to deflect and avoid answering what was asked, but expected.
So you are saying that every republican is so racist that they would not support protesting of the unlawful killing of a minority by law enforcement? Okay, I guess you are the right wing expert.
The only way that could possibly be an answer is if you were able to prove that not a single BLM member is republican. Can you do that and document your proof? Or are you talking out of the wrong hole on your body...AGAIN?
I would prefer you not to make up stories about what I have written. It is a lazy and intellectually immature way to debate.
I would also prefer if you actually read my entire question or statement instead of glossing over it.
For the record, here is my entire statement which you have managed to mangle all to hell and back:
If one actually does read what I wrote, they will find I mentioned Republicans exactly zero times. I also didn't claim that every BLM member is a Democrat, as PLAINLY written right in front of you. I highlighted the part you missed or ignored.
Why would failure to support a fundamentally ineffective activity be an indication of racism?
Hey, when one has to invent an argument, would you expect it to make sense?
Okay, you wrote, and I quote "BLM supports him". So prove that BLM, each and every one, supports him.
Black Lives Matter stands with Jussie Smollett after verdict - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
What Texan Quoted was accurate, you want to know if "all" BLM ask their leader Melina Abdullah.
Prove it. One person's opinion, in the latimes, does not equal proof.
I didn't make the claim, texan1211 has to do his own job.
Why the insistence on obtuseness now?
I said BLM supports him.
When a spokesman issues a supportive statement, it stands to reason the organization he represents is behind it.
I never said ALL Democrats, this is just yet another deflection from you, going off on some tangent because it is easier for you to twist words and invent them than it is for you to debate honestly.
That's a good way to phrase it. There are more than one here that suffer from that affliction.
I think far too many have been enamored with the old Bill Clinton defense--"Well, it depends on what your definition of 'is' is".
Sad lemmings, learning from one of the worst.
Yes you did, and offered no evidence to support that claim. You are, once again, over generalizing.
Bullshit! It means that the spokesman, himself supports it. The same as if a union representative makes the same type of statement. It speaks to the union, but not each individual member of that union.
Never claimed you did. Are you trying to distract and deflect again?
Read and understand post 1.5.10, including the LINK.
I can't understand it for you, and refuse to be dragged into your obtuseness.
If a union head says he is striking, do you think that maybe, just maybe, he is talking about his union striking? Do you think only a small portion of workers would strike or something?
You have successfully managed to add nothing to this conversation.
Its the "Leader" of BLM, if you don't like it tell her to stfu.
He is merely being obtuse.
Always going down some rabbit hole, derailing conversations and pretending what he says is germane to the conversation.
Don't expect that to happen. It would be a admission that he could be wrong.
The link to 1 person's opinion? Why?
You are way to firmly situated in your own "obtuseness".
Wow, comparing apples to oranges?
If a union head says he is striking, do YOU think that means it was a unanimous decision by all members??? Because that is equivalent to what you are claiming with BLM.
Which is the story of YOUR Newstalker's life.
It doesn't matter, unless you are claiming that every single one of them agrees. If that is your claim, we are back to PROVE IT.
Because the person represents BLM, duh. Why? So you can converse while knowing the facts.
Look, I can't understand this for you, and if you choose to be obtuse, I will respect that.
We're done here then.
Obtuseness once again.
So BLM consists of 1 person? Your attempts to support your claim are getting ridiculous. It doesn't matter if the person supports them, we are talking about all members of BLM, and you claimed that ALL of them support Jussie. Your attempts to deflect around that claim are outlandish.
That's because I am not a brain dead right winger that accepts as fact anything ion my spam folder.
LOL! Is that your word of the day? Is it posted on your breakroom door? [deleted]
Obtuse again or should I say still?
he can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that BLM supports this assclown.
He won't read the link to find out for himself, and is content to argue nothing.
Can't wait for him to post something!
Hopefully they add an enhancement for perjury.
And this too----"Jussie Smolette Stupid."
Won't be long now before we hear the "It's a white supremacist judicial system", or, "it was outside agitators". crowd chime in.
BLM has already issued a statement which makes them lose any credibility they ever had--some nonsense about a white supremacist charade.
Yep...........here it is.
Unbelievable. A man sets up a fake hate crime and it was a white supremacist charade.
Somebody aught to post that as a seed or Blog... (in one of our groups)
That .... is the triggered mind at work.
Triggered indeed.
No matter what happens, who it happens to, what the truth ends up being it’s all those damn white supremacists fault.
It's like a good Turkey call .... irresistible to Turkeys if done right
Leftist media is outraged...too funny.
Outraged how? No one supported him once it was found out it was all fake.
let that sink in for trump supporters.
Damn shame that Biden and Harris didn't wait for FACTS before opening their damn pieholes and making stupid-ass statements of "support" for the idiot.
Had to show how woke they were and all.
Real, not imagined proof ...... let that sink in for the TDS ridden.
All they have is their faux outrage. On top of their typical deflection, projection, and denial. SSDD
let that sink in for trump supporters.
Now, let's look at who is supporting him even now--BLM--which has now lost any credibility it ever had.
Pretend they aren't if one chooses, but the facts are facts.
Outraged because it all fell throught and the left got caught
They should be embarrassed at their fawning coverage of his alleged "attack" and their breathless reporting of Biden's and Harris' outrage at such an event occurring! Of course, then they would have to be honest with themselves and actually report how Biden and Harris really screwed the pooch on this by yapping about shit they know nothing about.
Which everyone knows they can't.
No one gives a shit about this except the 'right' with all their faux outrage.
What a sad and bizarre story. I don’t know what his personal life was like, but he had a perfectly good career going, and I would assume that is over now.
I;ll bet he has a renewed career in the slammer, lol
I honestly doubt he’ll do much, if any, time.
We can only hope he does.
Although I think a little time behind bars is deserved for this charade I don’t think he will either. Probably some community service and maybe electronic monitoring for a while.
Wonder if he ever paid that $130K the city wanted?
Good question. I hope they do get it. He deserves to pay for his lie.
the city is filing suit to recover the money wasted
Nah, i bet Hollyweird will embrace him again. Or at least try to.
They'll probably make a movie out of it and have him play himself!
Lol ... no doubt
With him as the used and abused party no doubt...
For sure...lol.
saw a good meme.. Smollet looking all sad in jail...read "when your acting is so bad you can't convince a jury"...lol!
Is that the reaction of a typical Christian?
Just asking for a friend, lol....
I don't know.
Why don't you ask one of your legion of Christian friends?
Right.
Some people would consider that meme to be rather funny, I know I did.
Here's a few more you may or may not find funny
Love the third one.
Back when the world was not so woke.
Can you imagine trying to make the movie today?
Impossible!
One more just for the fun of it:
Good.
I agree! What a skank of an individual. He had better get at least a couple of years behind bars. If he doesn't, I'm going to wonder why.
I should have known when he wouldn't take the rope off of his neck.
I thought the same thing back then. Seems like the first thing a person would want to do would be to remove any restraints applied during the assault.
It's possible that he would have gotten away with his nonsense had he not trash-talked the police on the front steps of the jail when he bonded out. The entire statement was one big fat dare to law enforcement. To Jussie's self-entitled surprise, the prosecutor took him up on his dare and moved forward with the case.
On a distantly related side note, one of Jussie Smollett's Empire co-workers made a fool out of herself several years ago. Taraji Henson's son, Marcell Johnson, was stopped twice by police, once for driving irradicably and subsequently found to be in position of marijuana, and once for behaving in an assaultive manner at USC where he was a student. He claimed to his mother that he was racially profiled on both occasions, and Taraji went nuts in a hugely public way. In defense of the officers involved, both law enforcement agencies released tapes of the encounters, which revealed Marcell to be one big fat liar. To her credit, Taraji issued public apologies, but then proceeded to give all kinds of lame excuses for her son's behavior. Thank goodness there was solid proof Marcell was lying. Otherwise, the officers involved would probably have lost their jobs, and lawsuits would have been commencing all over the place.
Yes Sister, there is enough stress and strain to go around. All these cases tee-off one another where the real damage sometimes is to determine who exactly is telling the truth (first)! 'Cases -taking a live of their own.'
Many a pastor and preacher is known to shout out: "The Devil Is A Lie." That is, this won't be allowed to stand once the truth is brought forward and out!
Actors have to act !
Damn shame the President and Vice President didn't have your smarts to see through Smollet's charade.
I like her as an actress - never knew about these incidents.
It kills me how some are all up in arms - how the President and Vice President - didn't see through this charade . . . whatever . . . but once the truth was known . . . who still supports him?
Actually, they should have stayed detached from the situation and kept their mouths shut.
Yeah, whatever.
Bazinga.
Exactly what many of the same people, who are giving Joe and Kamala a free pass right now, were saying to Trump during his four years.
Hypocrisy abounds!
Yep, it most certainly does.
Yeah, funny how when that idiot Trump did the same crap, the left was all over him for it. Now the the right does the same when when Biden and Harris can't keep their mouths shut and complains, the left cannot stand it. It would be really comical if it was not so pathetic!
Again, whatever.
All you have is one instance on the 'left' and endless examples on the 'right'
But they didn't keep their mouths shut. And though in some instances it would be a better discretion to reserve 'speak' sometimes people have an unction to want to speak even out of 'turn.' That said, Tesslyo is absolutely correct in that the 'error' when found out is not perpetuated.
Donald Trump is a complete JERK who tries to dominate people (and has great success that empowers him to try even harder to repeat) in his sphere of influence with laborious lies and deceptions.
It is not a true comparison (and reasonable people know it). Do not associate Joe Biden and Kamala Harris with Trump—Donald won't like that!
Sorry, I call em like I see them. I don't dislike Trump more than I do Biden and Harris. I dislike them equally. I try to be equal in my politics. Not always, but I do try.
And all you have is deflection as usual.
Let's be clear, you are free to dislike whomsoever you wish. It is evidentially not the case that Donald Trump (who won't even act "presidential" as a former president) is a man of integrity, nevertheless. I would like to think you can find something of integrity in Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. That said, to each his or her own.
I understand what you are saying and respect that, but from my perspective, I have yet to see anything of integrity from either Biden or Harris so far. But that is my own perspective. A good day to you Sir.
Sir, you are so respectful (of me) that I want to return the sentiment. However, what does one man as president have to do to earn your respect? Integrity is defined as doing right or the best one can in good, tense, frustrating, and grave times. Donald Trump wants to be 'received' as a threat to anybody who crosses him by hook or crook; Joe Biden and Kamala Harris simply are not like that!
When a man, woman, boy, or girl is doing 'what the Lord loves' to the best of his or her ability, why inpugn or malign? Give praise where praise is do. I say. Donald Trump does not want praise, he wants obeisance. Accompanied by a great amount of 'bowing and scraping.'
(I write this in furtherance of discussion and do regard your discomfort with Biden and Harris, nevertheless.)
The most glaring thing I can bring up regarding the lack of integrity regarding Biden and Harris is the ongoing fiasco at our Southern Border with Mexico. (Believe me there are plenty more than I could go into here) You do not live where I do and you do not see the every day situation down here that I and other residents here do. You and others only see and hear what CNN, MSNBC, and other liberal media spoon feed the populace with and believe it. When was the last time Biden set foot on the border and spent more than a 10 minute photo op? Harris is a even bigger joke. She made one trip to a "safe and secluded" area of the border where the mass crossing were not even occurring and only did pretty much of a drive through just so she could say she went to the border. And this is the Border Czar who is supposed to be taking care of the problem(s)? Did not even stop to talk to border residents. There are people hurting on this side of the border and the Biden administration is turning a blind eye to them, and does not even want to talk about it except to put all blame on his predecessor. How is that integrity? My apologies for venting but this is a very serious situation for me that a lot of the rest of the country does not seem to care much about. Out of sight out of mind I guess.
You make an interestingly great point! I can not see from California what is going on in Texas or any of our southern borders in person. Consequently, I am forced to speak from a lack of personal experience and base anything I 'utter' on the statements of others. And, we all do this all the time! For example, I have never been shot (and do not wish to be) and am told it is a very devastating experience which can alter many perceptions first-hand.
The thing is this. I won't start pointing fingers at FOX NEWS or NEWSMAX or any other uniquely conservative perspective if you will not talk to me like I am some 'child' without capability to understand your 'plight' around your locale - as you would be equally hard pressed to comprehend my perspective in California problems, issues, and day to day "dramas." (Dynamics.)
I do not know why Harris or Biden cant solve the border issue. . . . Others have not as well. And neither party wants to incrementally work out the "kinks" (and they are paid to do so) in immigration reform or policy.
Now then, that is not a good, or great, example of integrity, nevertheless. For the border "crisis," issue, paradox, or dilemma is fraught with challenges equal to the former political "fire" that was healthcare for a "growing" nation.
Pick something else.
That being said. It would be remiss if I did not point out that Trump (2016) PROMISED TO BUILT A GORGEOUS WALL WITH A DOOR "immediately" in his administration and five years later that job is unaccomplished. All while he managed to lie, lie, lie, about a myriad of other presidential matters and policies.
Finally, I can respect your pain at the lack of proper and suitably pleasing border policy. Just consider this: I have similar angst and worry over voting rights which are in 'reverse' and a congress, VP, and President who are about to "do nothing" or will be limited in making national voting policy whole again for all citizens of this country. Still, I can not state that integrity of Harris and Biden is the lacking denominator for lack of renewed interest in voting rights legislation.
Ed-NavDoc, I thank you for this privilege of your discussion!
In my comments, I was not referring to you personally and I apologize if it seemed that way. I was being general in my comments.
If you wish to point fingers at other conservative leaning networks, by all means do so as it makes no difference to me. In their own way, FOX and Newsmax are just as bad to me.
Trump made and continues to make a lot of stupid statements and he made promises he never had any intention of keeping and obviously the wall built by Mexico was the biggest. People in high office routinely make big promises to get elected. Biden is no better. Just part of life in the swamp that is DC nowadays.
I very much agree with most of your last paragraph. Where we disagree is the extent of or lack of integrity of the current POTUS and VP. My thanks for your polite and insightful comments.
Good. Don't waste our time with fake reports dumbass.
Frankly, Jussie Smollett is a problem. And to date, this brilliant entertainer, boy is he a good singer/actor combo on a top show. A show topper on Fox Broadcasting Company of all places! And for the life of me, I wish Jussie would relent and tell us why he killed off that powerfully emotional show that was a 'power-house' of star creation for young up and coming Blacks and Other performers.
Jussie wiped it out - just like that.
I will forgive him for doing this to his "gay-self influence" on the culture (a set-back), but I will never forget the loss he has equally caused.
(CB spits.) I am not sure this young man full of talent is mentally well.
Not a problem now that his lies were exposed and he was convicted.
An understatement. It takes a special "talent" to fuck your career all up over nothing.
I doubt he really cares about that right now, if ever. Too focused on himself.
Apparently so.
Jussie Smollett is the result when the demand for racism outweighs the supply.
Yeah, not enough racism stories to go around.... It's happened before, remember Tawana Brawley?
You had to go so far back to dig up that one incident {chuckle} the only other incident was Jussie {chuckle}
Jussie Smollett is a foolish young man who will live to regret (unless he 'hurts' himself) the loss of his acceptance into the high and lofty places of 'American' society. This brilliant young man sang before a president at the White House. And then, he stooped so low as to throw it all away. . . . If there is a lesson here, it is not to envy others' their successes, even as he strived (past tense) to get more of his own. Now, he is an outcast: He may never work in Hollywood again.
Oh and I think at critical "inspection" it is a bit rich for Jussie to claim racism (and shows ineptness and amateurishness) for a black man to be "molested" by two other larger black men due to his race or ethnic makeup. Racism is charged by someone against someone else who is "Not."
the distinction between white and black attackers was all asshole smollet
On a positive note, I was so proud of Jussie Smollett, "Empire," and FOX Broadcasting for taking up the "strange" dichotomy of promoting a homosexual HEADLINER in a major television series (not targeted at homosexuals). Who could imagine that the homosexual real-life character would crumble under the stress of representing so many who needed him to shine at the apex of a sterling career?
Jussie Smollett is black, homosexual, attractive, and notable. In the words of Phil Collins, he was caught red-handed, "throwing it all away."
And now, EMPIRE is shuttered. FOX BROADCASTING is. . . licking its wounds over a loss it could not have factored, and the show's homosexual creator, Lee Daniels, is besmirched just for giving a young homosexual singer the chance of a lifetime to be somebody great!
And yes, the ADDED TOUCH of blaming "MAGA" is insult to injury. Jussie Smollett is one bad and confused young man. May he get some help (now). May he continue to live to comprehend the scale of this error. Lastly, may he be able to endure it.