Biden faces worst job approval yet in poll | Washington Examiner

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  3 months ago  •  116 comments

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Biden faces worst job approval yet in poll | Washington Examiner
President Joe Biden is hitting rock bottom.

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President Joe Biden is hitting rock bottom.

The 46th president reached his lowest marks yet in terms of overall job approval in the latest CBS News/YouGov survey released on Sunday.

A mere 42% of U.S. adults gave Biden positive marks in this column, 1 point below what he got in February and March and a far cry from the 62% job approval rating the Democrat got in March 2021.

Fifty-eight percent of respondents said they disapprove of the way Biden is handling his job as president.

2024 POLL SHOWS TRUMP LEADING HARRIS BY LARGER MARGIN THAN BIDEN REMATCH

Further broken down, 19% said they strongly approve, 23% said they somewhat approve, 19% said they somewhat disapprove, and 39% said they strongly disapprove.

Much of the dissatisfaction is driven by the economy and inflation, on which disapproval sits at 63% and 69%, respectively. Biden is also facing high disapproval for the "situation with Russia and Ukraine," immigration, climate change, and crime. A majority of respondents, 56%, did acknowledge a good local job market.


NEW: @POTUS Biden's overall job approval is 42%, down one point from last month; it's been hovering in the low 40s for months now, and that tick down does mark its lowest point yet. He is underwater on his handling of crime, immigration, economy and inflation. pic.twitter.com/1XaGwZDih1 — Ed O'Keefe (@edokeefe) April 10, 2022

The poll comes a little less than seven months before the midterm elections, in which Republicans are widely expected to win control of at least one chamber of Congress.

The survey was conducted with a "nationally representative sample of 2,062 U.S. adult residents" between April 5-8, CBS News reported. The sample "was weighted according to gender, age, race, and education based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey and Current Population Survey, as well as to 2020 presidential vote," and the poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 points.


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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    3 months ago

And still, some folks think that in just about 7 months, Biden can turn the dismal numbers around.

Doesn't look good for Democrats in the midterms if Biden's numbers look like these.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Senior Guide
1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 months ago
And still, some folks think that in just about 7 months, Biden can turn the dismal numbers around.

But when you listen to Democrats talk about it,  it's only a messaging problem.  The Democrats just need to find a better message...    


and here I thought they would be better off if they just found a clue..

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    3 months ago
But when you listen to Democrats talk about it,  it's only a messaging problem.  The Democrats just need to find a better message... 

That appears to be true. Seems rather silly since Democrats control their own messaging. 

Perhaps being so out-of-touch with Americans is not all it's cracked up to be for them.

and here I thought they would be better off if they just found a clue..

One might think that if reality didn't tell us differently.

I am sure the autopsy of the midterms will show Democrats they just need to double down on their policies as usual.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    3 months ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 months ago

Exactly, Dems have a winning ticket in Nov.

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.4  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 months ago

Biden did shit!

Unemployment numbers are about what they were pre pandemic. 

Jobs added are mostly those that were lost when businesses were forced by the left to close and lay off their workers. Now that the pandemic is ending those businesses are reopening and need those workers back. 

The GDP is up because people weren't working and could afford to buy anything and they were restricted from freely shopping. 

Wages may be up but since inflation is almost 8%, any gain in pay has been lost. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 months ago

Only a dullard would fall for that propaganda.

Dems are going find that out the hard way in November.

Bigly

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.6  JBB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.4    3 months ago

Yes. Democrats see the glass as half full and Independents see the glass as half empty but the gop says the glass is completely empty...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 months ago

LOL!

Wages are up---and COMPLETELY eaten away by roaring inflation.

I guess Biden did do that!

Funny thing, voters think the country is headed in the wrong direction. They think Biden is doing poorly.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.4    3 months ago

You're thinking of #45.  He didn't do shit!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.4    3 months ago

Prove it!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.1.6    3 months ago

the gop says the glass is completely empty..

You can't see through a red solo cup.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.1.6    3 months ago

Republicans fill the glass, independents help fill it, democrats empty it.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.12  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.11    3 months ago

But, the gop only pours into the rich's cups...

Only Democrats care about working people!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.1.12    3 months ago

Yeah, that’s what you tell people.    Too bad reality is different.

Generationally high inflation hurts the poor and middle class the most.

Thanks for taking care of the poor Uncle Joe!
256

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.14  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.12    3 months ago
Only Democrats care about working people!

Okay, now I am not sure which is funnier--the claim or the fact you believe it!

 
 
 
Snuffy
Senior Guide
1.1.15  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.14    3 months ago

That is a good question,  for sure.  But it is funny sad to listen to the administration who wants to brag about how good the economy is doing.  They point to the high growth of the stock market and the low unemployment.  Both are good numbers but what they don't tell you is that something like only 10% of the richest own 74% of the stock market so when the stock market is doing well the people who are making out are the richest 10% anyway.  But they need to keep telling people that they are the party of the poor and working classes... oy

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.16  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.15    3 months ago

I would just love to see a Town Hall meeting between some Democrats and their constituents when Democrats explain how inflation is all Putin's fault and merely temporary like Biden said it was.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.1.12    3 months ago

Goes back to the days of Tammany Hall, through the Daley Cook County Machine to 2019 's 26 public corruption convictions in the Northern District of Illinois, which includes all of Chicago and the northern third of Illinois.

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.18  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.9    3 months ago

I might just as soon as you prove the dozens of BS statement you have made and were asked to prove. 

I got an idea. Prove me wrong. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.19  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.1.6    3 months ago

You may have the first two right but you got the GOP wrong. We see the reality that the glass is entirely full. Half filled with substance and the other half filled with air. That is the real world. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.20  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.1.12    3 months ago

I guess that's why they don't care that has prices are at record levels and inflation is at close to 8%.  They care so much that they want to make all the working people broke so they can give them government handouts to survive and become dependent on the government for their existence v

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.21  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.1.12    3 months ago

There are even some democrats that don't believe that BS anymore. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.22  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 months ago

Don't know where you found your info. Funny that it says nothing about the criminal handling of the Afghanistan withdrawl debacle, record levels of inflation, outrageous spike in gas and food prices, or the total illegal immigrant fiasco on our Southern border. Those are just to name a few.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.18    3 months ago

You have never provided any facts.  I on the other hand, HAVE,.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.22    3 months ago

All bullshit.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.25  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.24    3 months ago

Yes, the info you posted above certainly was.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.25    3 months ago

No, the info you posted above certainly was.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.27  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.26    3 months ago

So you are saying that none of what I posted happened, is that it?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.29  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.24    3 months ago

Stop projecting ....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.30  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.29    3 months ago

Standard MO when backed into a corner of their own making and no reply to respond with other than those that include projection, deflection, denial, and insults. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.29    3 months ago

Naw - that's your MO - plus deflection and denial

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.33  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.29    3 months ago

I think both our points were proven.

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.34  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.23    3 months ago

You got your comment backwards

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.1.35  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.23    3 months ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.36  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.27    3 months ago

Cricket chirping on the above is definitely deafening!/sarc

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.37  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.33    3 months ago

Yep, nothing new in this case ....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.38  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.37    3 months ago

Yep. They know they've been had and refuse to answer the question put to them in post #1.1.27.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.30    3 months ago

You just have to have the last word.  It's not a matter of being backed into a corner.  No need to reply to your constant need to have the last word.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.33    3 months ago

No, they weren't.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.41  Ed-NavDoc  impassed  Tessylo @1.1.39    3 months ago
 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 months ago

He can’t print his way out of this one.    
Especially since all the free money already printed is a big part of the problem

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.1  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @1.2    3 months ago

Biden cut Trump's deficit by a trillion dollars!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    3 months ago

Yeah I’ve heard that talking point.    Creative accounting to be sure.    

Joseph Gobbels would be very proud of it.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    3 months ago

Exactly,  that $3+ trillion that Trump spent for COVID-19 relief was a mother.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 months ago

The Washington Examiner?  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif    I can get less biased news by reading the China Daily.

So who are YOUR choices for candidates for POTUS for both parties in 2024?  Marjorie Taylor Greene?  Sarah Palin?  Mitt Romney?  LIz Cheney?   Pete Buttigieg?  Bernie Sanders?  Joe Manchin?  Kamela Harris?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    3 months ago
The Washington Examiner?     I can get less biased news by reading the China Daily.

FFS, do you honestly believe the source is lying about the poll?

Here, this little tidbit is in the article:

This was a CBS News/YouGov survey the article cites.

Since you choose to believe the story is false, feel free to look up the survey for your own self.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.3.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.1    3 months ago

Don't jump to conclusions, Tex.  You're being pretty touchy about your source.  Point out to me where I said the WE was lying,  My comment was about BIAS, not LYING.  Are you denying that the WE is biased?

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.2    3 months ago

What if it IS biased?

How does that make a difference in what is in the article?

The source isn't the topic.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.3.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.3    3 months ago

LOL. Nice try.  I didn't expect an apology - apologies say something about the character of those who give them. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.4    3 months ago
I didn't expect an apology

That is a good thing.

apologies say something about the character of those who give them.

Yes, it is recognizing a wrong and taking responsibility and showing remorse for what you have done.

No one has wronged you here.

Do you have anything--anything at all--to say about the topic of the seed?

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
1.3.6  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.5    3 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.3.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.5    3 months ago
"Do you have anything--anything at all--to say about the topic of the seed?"

Yes I do.  If I were an American I wouldn't vote for Biden either.  In fact, I think I'd vote for LIz Cheney.  She actually has the balls to put principles before personal interests.  I note that I had asked you who YOUR candidate of choice would be - and YOU DIDN'T answer, so your statement I just quoted was misleading and wrong and an unfair criticism.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.7    3 months ago
If I were an American I wouldn't vote for Biden either.

We agree.

In fact, I think I'd vote for LIz Cheney.  She actually has the balls to put principles before personal interests. 

That's nice.

I note that I had asked you who YOUR candidate of choice would be - and YOU DIDN'T answer, so your statement I just quoted was misleading and wrong and an unfair criticism.

The topic isn't my choice of candidate.

The topic is Biden's rather dismal poll numbers.

I don't really see any way for him to turn them around before the midterms.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.9  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.8    3 months ago

President Biden is not on the midterm ballot. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.3.9    3 months ago
President Biden is not on the midterm ballot. 

W-H-A-T???

O.M.G!!!!!

/s

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.3.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.3.9    3 months ago

Of that, many are thankful.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.3.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.8    3 months ago
"The topic isn't my choice of candidate."

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.11    3 months ago
Of that, many are thankful.

Tell me the truth--did you already know Biden wasn't going to be on the ballot for either Senator or Congressman in the midterms?

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.3.14  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.3.9    3 months ago

His policies and governing are on the ballot just as Trump was on the ballot during his midterm. The midterms election always reflect the feelings the people have of the president. The worse his popularity the worse it tends to be for his party's candidates for other offices. That may not necessarily be fair to those candidates but that the way it is

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
1.3.15  arkpdx  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.11    3 months ago

Not really it means that we still have two more years of having a dildo as president

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
1.3.16  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.4    3 months ago

And we can be assured that you will never apologize [deleted]

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
1.3.17  Lucifer Morningstar  replied to  Lucifer Morningstar @1.3.16    2 months ago

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Split Personality
Professor Principal
2  Split Personality    3 months ago
President Joe Biden is hitting rock bottom.

Mr. Biden has quite a way to go to hit "rock bottom", pretty funny considering that the previous POTUS polled between 34% and 49% in his four years.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @2    3 months ago

If you would like to talk about Trump, JR has seeds for that.

This article isn't about Trump.

Please stay on topic.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    3 months ago

Great point.  Well said!  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    3 months ago

For most of Trump's time in office his Gallup approval rating was less than 45%. It was often less than 40 %.   Yet Biden is uniquely disapproved?  It is laughable. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    3 months ago

Yet Biden is uniquely disapproved?  It is laughable. 

What laughable is using Trump numbers to defend Biden's.  Biden started his presidency north of 50% and 10-12 points above Trumps at the same point in his term. Now they are neck and neck, not because Trump's poll numbers improved but because Biden's have dropped.    

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.3    3 months ago

Every newly elected president starts out with high poll numbers. Trump was the outlier in that regard for the simple reason that he was completely unfit to hold elected office. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    3 months ago
Every newly elected president starts out with high poll numbers

On day 448 of his presidency, Biden's numbers are below Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy at their same point.  He is one point below Truman and one above Trump.  Still laughing?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    3 months ago

Nah, the triggered were just unfit to judge him in polls.

TDS changed everything once he beat your chosen one.

A good portion of America went clinically insane that November and still are today.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    3 months ago
For most of Trump's time in office his Gallup approval rating was less than 45%. It was often less than 40 %. 

If this was one of your seeds on Trump, great point. On a seed about Biden--DEFLECTION!

Yet Biden is uniquely disapproved?  It is laughable. 

Did you learn that from reading the article?

Did the article claim Biden was unique in any way?

Are you attempting to argue what clearly wasn't stated?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    3 months ago

Then kindly remove Trump from the seed.

I will note that you left this in the seed.

2024 POLL SHOWS TRUMP LEADING HARRIS BY LARGER MARGIN THAN BIDEN REMATCH

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Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.7    3 months ago
Are you attempting to argue what clearly wasn't stated?

See comment 2.54 for a glaring example of that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.9    3 months ago

already dealt with, thanks!

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
2.2  arkpdx  replied to  Split Personality @2    3 months ago
President Joe Biden is hitting rock bottom.

Rock bottom? Not nearly!  He is going to fall much farther before he hits bottom. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  arkpdx @2.2    3 months ago

When it comes to Biden's potentially low numbers, I foresee him eventually having to use a periscope to look up to a amoeba...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @2    3 months ago
pretty funny considering that the previous POTUS polled between 34% and 49% in his four years.

He didn't have a good mid-term election in the House either.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3    3 months ago

Has anyone ?  I can remember Bush, Clinton and Obama getting hammered during their first midterms.

I think Truman had it the worst.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
2.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.1    3 months ago
r Bush, Clinton and Obama getting hammered during their first midterm

Bush picked up 8 House and 2 Senate seats for the Republicans. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.3.3  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.3.2    3 months ago

Thanks for the "clarification".

George M Bush lost 9 seats during his only midterm.

GW Bush is one of only three modern  POTUSs who gained seats (10)

during his first midterm.  Of course he lost 30 during his second midterm.

Midterm Election Results 

This chart shows the number of seats in the House of Representatives and U.S. Senate that the president's party won or lost during midterm elections dating back to Franklin D. Roosevelt. 

Year President Party House Senate Total
1934 Franklin D. Roosevelt D +9 +9 +18
1938 Franklin D. Roosevelt D -71 -6 -77
1942 Franklin D. Roosevelt D -55 -9 -64
1946 Harry S. Truman D -45 -12 -57
1950 Harry S. Truman D -29 -6 -35
1954 Dwight D. Eisenhower R -18 -1 -19
1958 Dwight D. Eisenhower R -48 -13 -61
1962 John F. Kennedy D -4 +3 -1
1966 Lyndon B. Johnson D -47 -4 -51
1970 Richard Nixon R -12 +2 -10
1974 Gerald R. Ford R -48 -5 -63
1978 Jimmy Carter D -15 -3 -18
1982 Ronald Reagan R -26 +1 -25
1986 Ronald Reagan R -5 -8 -13
1990 George Bush R -8 -1 -9
1994 William J. Clinton D -52 -8 -60
1998 William J. Clinton D +5 0 +5
2002 George W. Bush R +8 +2 +10
2006 George W. Bush R -30 -6 -36
2010 Barack Obama D -63 -6 -69
2014 Barack Obama D -13 -9 -21
2018 Donald Trump R -41 +2 -39

Midterm Election Results - The President's Party Loses (thoughtco.com)

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.1    3 months ago

That should serve as consolation with many here.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.3    3 months ago

The 2002 midterms were in the near aftermath of "9/11" , when most of the country wanted to express patriotism by not rocking the governmental status quo. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.5    3 months ago
The 2002 midterms were in the near aftermath of "9/11" , when most of the country wanted to express patriotism by not rocking the governmental status quo. 

Now, that there is some fantastical spinning!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.3.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.6    3 months ago

By near aftermath, JR means 14 months.  In other discussions here, the 7 months to the midterms is a long time.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.3.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.7    3 months ago

14 months in terms of run up to war is "near term". 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
2.3.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.8    3 months ago

14 months in terms of run up to war is "near term". 

We went to war in Nov 2001.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.3.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.9    3 months ago
We went to war in Nov 2001.

And 21 years later we are still at war.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.7    3 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.3.12  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.5    3 months ago

Could be true, but it doesn't hold true for FDR in 1934

or Bill Clinton in 1994.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @2    3 months ago
Mr. Biden has quite a way to go to hit "rock bottom", pretty funny considering that the previous POTUS polled between 34% and 49% in his four years.

It's not just Biden.  Kamala Harris is viewed less favorably than Biden.  Nancy Pelosi is viewed less favorably than Harris.  And Chuck Schumer is viewed less favorably than Pelosi.  Overall approval of the Democratic controlled Congress has been falling since last May and is now lower than it was when Biden was inaugurated.  Right track/wrong direction polling indicates the country thinks we're headed in the wrong direction. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.4.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @2.4    3 months ago

“…polling indicates…”

polling=polemics=posturing=posing=where we find ourselves today.

Is anyone comfortable with where we find ourselves today? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.4.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @2.4.1    3 months ago

I am positive that will be vastly comforting for Democrats after the midterms.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.4.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @2.4.2    3 months ago

“…after the midterms.”

Cannot imagine living a life so defined by what may happen in the future while ignoring the history, missing the present, and never acknowledging how they are all connected.

It’s quite obvious where you hang your hat, tex. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.4.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @2.4.3    3 months ago
Cannot imagine living a life so defined by what may happen in the future while ignoring the history, missing the present, and never acknowledging how they are all connected.

Me either!

Cool!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.4.5  XXJefferson51  replied to  afrayedknot @2.4.1    3 months ago

I’m not 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
2.4.6  Nerm_L  replied to  afrayedknot @2.4.1    3 months ago
"...find ourselves today..."

We find ourselves without leadership.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.4.7  Greg Jones  replied to  afrayedknot @2.4.3    3 months ago
"Cannot imagine living a life so defined by what may happen in the future while ignoring the history, missing the present, and never acknowledging how they are all connected."
The Dems are doing all that right now in so many areas.  What may happen...if Trump runs again...if climate change isn't addressed...etc, etc..

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2    3 months ago
previous POTUS polled between

Nice deflection.  It brought out the rest who can't seem to stay on topic.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.5.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.5    3 months ago

Thanks for your participation and criticism.

I, apparently among many others, am not here to just cheer for whatever swinging dick partisan hit piece is reprinted

and limit myself to criticizing the politician de jour. The article is clearly biased.

Biden is no where near rock bottom and if he loses seats in the midterms, as is historically expected,

it really won't be much of a surprise or a repudiation of his administration.

Thanks again for your deflection.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
2.5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.1    3 months ago
many others, am not here to just cheer for whatever swinging dick partisan hit piece is reprinted

Right. Just certain hit pieces that slant a certain way.

 and if he loses seats in the midterms, as is historically expected,

it really won't be much of a surprise or a repudiation of his administration

[deleted]

It will be funny watching all those who claimed 2018 was some massive repudiation of Trump claim turn around and say it's not noteworthy when the Democrats lose seats. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.5.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.5.2    3 months ago
It will be funny watching all those who claimed 2018 was some massive repudiation of Trump claim turn around and say it's not noteworthy when the Democrats lose seats.

And somehow, some way, they will blame Putin and Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.5.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.1    3 months ago
The article is clearly biased.

In what way are the polls biased?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.5.5  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @2.5.4    3 months ago

Can I quote you?

Are you attempting to argue what clearly wasn't stated?
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.5.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.1    3 months ago
Biden is no where near rock bottom

That would imply he's had some success somewhere.  Nobody can point that success out.  

Thanks again for your deflection.

I made no deflection.  [deleted]   And how it brought out the normal [deleted] who consistently attempt to deflect to the prior administration when the failures of the current administration are brought up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.5.7  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.5.6    3 months ago
That would imply he's had some success somewhere.

No, Jeremy to an objective person it means what it states.  Rock bottom is zero, not 42.

Nobody can point that success out

You have to know that is not the case.

?

And how it brought out the normal [deleted] who consistently attempt to deflect to the prior administration when the failures of the current administration are brought up.

A; the seeder apparently included this for some reason

2024 POLL SHOWS TRUMP LEADING HARRIS BY LARGER MARGIN THAN BIDEN REMATCH

B:  most partisans criticize the other party regardless of the performance of the current party in the White House

It has been that way as long as I can remember, just less nuanced now that we can routinely seek to insult one

another anonymously on the internet.

Thanks for the (deleted) remarks, whatever they were.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.5.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.7    3 months ago
normal [deleted] who

I guess that particular word made you cry.  

Rock bottom is zero, not 42.

Then start listing those successes.  You'd be the first.

And how it brought out the normal [deleted] who consistently attempt to deflect to the prior administration when the failures of the current administration are brought up. A; the seeder apparently included this for some reason

Yo apparently don't understand that I'm talking about the comments by those like yourself who can't stay on topic.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.5.9  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.5.8    3 months ago

And you don't understand that if Trump is mentioned in the seed, he is on topic.

If you want an echo chamber, start your own, shingles doesn't care.

Ciao.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.5.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.9    3 months ago

I guess you missed 2.1   from the person who seeded this.  Maybe you should revisit that before blathering off.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.5.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.5    3 months ago

I am unsure if you can or not, but you should be a better judge of your skills, and since you couldn't answer the question, who knows?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.5.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.5.10    3 months ago
I guess you missed 2.1 from the person who seeded this. 

Doesnt matter. A name mentioned in the text of the seed is on topic no matter what the seeder says. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.5.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.5.12    3 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
3  Nerm_L    3 months ago

The punditry have latched onto the economy as a ready excuse.  But the problem with Biden is more fundamentally deep rooted.

Biden has not governed as a centrist.  The Biden policy agenda is skewed toward extreme positions promoted by a minority of special interests.  Biden governs by making demands and threats; Biden is not a compromiser.  Biden cannot even compromise with his own party.  In fact, Biden has held bipartisan compromises hostage to demand passage of extreme measures that are the core of Biden's political agenda.  Biden focuses a spotlight on every minority issue while giving short shrift to any sort of centrist accomplishment.

Biden has only governed for his side, creating a perception that the country is deeply divided.  And Biden appears to accept that deep division as desirable.  Only Biden's side can win; all others must pound sand.  Compromise is not in the vocabulary of the Biden administration.  Biden sets policy based on the idea of win-lose; there isn't any win-win in Biden's policy agenda.

The electorate is beginning to feel as though Biden has put the country on the wrong track.  Putting a positive spin on that wrong track isn't going to make the electorate happy.  Biden's message all along has been that the good of the few outweighs the good of the many.  Any minority special interest is more important than the country as a whole.  Biden has been imposing more and more sacrifices onto the bulk of the country without a goal or end in sight.  Perpetual sacrifice for no clear purpose isn't going to put the country on the right track.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 months ago

Your post is pretty much right on and well stated.  It will be interesting to see if the GOP wins the house and senate whether Biden governs like Clinton after 1994 or like Obama after 2014.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    3 months ago
It will be interesting to see if the GOP wins the house and senate whether Biden governs like Clinton after 1994 or like Obama after 2014.  

IMO that will depend on two things.  First, Biden may or may not decide to not run for reelection (sort of like Lyndon Johnson).  There doesn't seem to be anything Biden can do to improve Harris' chances during the 2024 Democratic primaries.  (Harris will have to beat a Democratic field to get the nomination.  2024 won't be anything like Humphrey in 1968; Harris is less popular than was Humphrey).  Whether Biden decides to run or not, the only thing Biden can do is appear to be fighting Republicans to 'save democracy'.

The second thing is that Republicans may try to be stupidly obdurate.  That's the losing strategy for Republicans.  Biden simply isn't a compromiser and that gives Republicans an advantage if they don't climb onto the TEA Party wagon again.  Republicans need to pursue a center-right legislative agenda that puts bills on Biden's desk for signature.  If Republicans follow Trump's lead in a more moderate manner then Republicans will become dominant across the ballot.  Today's Republican Party doesn't appear to be sufficiently disciplined to do that.

The worst case scenario for Democrats in 2024 is Hillary deciding to try again.  The worst case scenario for Republicans in 2024 is Trump deciding to try again.  My expectation is that the two years after the 2020 midterms will be a race to the bottom.  2024 is going to be another dirty, dirty election.

BTW, Russia will still be in Ukraine for the 2024 election.  So, big brass balls will be prominent.  It's going to be a game of Russians, Russians, who hates the Russians.  That's an incentive for both Hillary and the Donald to run again.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 months ago
"The Biden policy agenda is skewed toward extreme positions promoted by a minority of special interests.  Biden governs by making demands and threats; Biden is not a compromiser."

That boils down to "My way or the highway."  And in IMO that applies concerning international affairs as well, the results of which are bound to have a negative effect not only for all Americans, but for the rest of the world.  

 
 

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