Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company

  

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By:   Jason Abbruzzese, Kevin Collier and Phil Helsel

Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company
Twitter on Thursday evening suddenly suspended several high-profile journalists who cover the platform and Elon Musk, one of the richest people in the world,

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Twitter on Thursday evening suddenly suspended several high-profile journalists who cover the platform and Elon Musk, one of the richest people in the world, who acquired the company just a few months ago.

Hours after the suspensions took hold, Musk faced off with one of the journalists he suspended in a Twitter Space audio discussion before an audience of more than 30,000 listeners. The suspended journalist, along with several others, found a backdoor way onto the platform through the website's audio function.

"You doxx, you get suspended. End of story. That's it," Musk said, explaining his latest policy to the group, before he left minutes after having joined the discussion.

Musk was referring to Twitter's latest rule change about accounts that track private jets, including one owned by Musk himself, which was put in place Wednesday.

The accounts of Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept,Steve Herman of Voice of America and independent journalists Aaron Rupar, Keith Olbermann and Tony Websterhad all been suspended as of Thursday evening.

The Twitter account for Mastodon, a platform billed as a Twitter alternative, was also suspended early Thursday evening. Twitter accounts operated by NBC News journalists were unable to tweet any links to Mastodon pages. Mastodon was, however, trending on Twitter.

Musk said the suspensions stemmed from the platform's new rules banning private jet trackers, responding to a tweet from Mike Solana, a vice president of the venture capital firm Founders Fund, who noted that the suspended accounts had posted links to jet trackers on other websites.

"Criticizing me all day long is totally fine, but doxxing my real-time location and endangering my family is not," he said in another tweet.

Musk tweeted that the accounts banned Thursday posted "my exact real-time location, basically assassination coordinates, in (obvious) direct violation of Twitter terms of service." NBC News was unable to verify that allegation.

Musk later added that the suspensions would last seven days.

In early November, shortly after having taken control of Twitter, Musk tweeted that he would not ban the account that tracked his jet.

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Rupar wrote on Substack that his account was permanently suspended but that he had no other information.

"I haven't heard anything from Twitter at all," he wrote.

He noted that he had tweeted a link Wednesday to a Facebook page that tracked Musk's jet.

Binder, a tech reporter at Mashable, said he was suspended after he tweeted a screenshot from another suspended reporter, CNN's O'Sullivan, of a Los Angeles Police Department statement.

"I've been on it since 2008. I never got so much as a slap on the wrist, because I always follow the rules," Binder said. "It's not hard to do when you know what the rules are."

Binder said his account notified him that he is permanently suspended.

"This is the very stuff that he's criticized the previous Twitter of doing," Binder said of Musk.

Binder did appear to find a loophole in Twitter's suspension, joining an audio discussion on Twitter's Spaces feature with other journalists Thursday night. Harwell later also joined.

"I'm breaking the law in ways that have never been broken before," Binder joked.

Jack Sweeney, a 20-year-old Florida college student who created the Twitter account that tracked Musk's jet, was also able to join the discussion despite his account's suspension.

Musk later joined the discussion, but briefly — getting out his talking points and then leaving abruptly. He had earlier put up a poll with a variety of options, asking whether or when he should reinstate the journalists' accounts. When a plurality of respondents voted to restore the accounts immediately, he deleted the poll and started a new one with fewer options.

O'Sullivan said Thursday that all those journalists who were suspended with him were people who cover Musk.

"As we saw with the jet tracker last night, Musk seems to be just stamping out accounts that he doesn't like," O'Sullivan said on CNN.

A spokesperson for the network said the suspensions were "impulsive and unjustified" — but not surprising.

"Twitter's increasing instability and volatility should be of incredible concern for everyone who uses Twitter," the network said in a statement. "We have asked Twitter for an explanation, and we will reevaluate our relationship based on that response."

Sally Buzbee, the executive editor of The Washington Post, said Harwell's suspension "directly undermines Elon Musk's claim that he intends to run Twitter as a platform dedicated to free speech."

Harwell was "banished from Twitter without warning, process or explanation, following the publication of his accurate reporting about Musk" and should be reinstated immediately, Buzbee said in a statement Thursday night.

A spokesperson for The New York Times, who called the suspensions questionable and unfortunate, said no explanation was provided to Mac or the newspaper about the ban.

Rep. Lori Trahan, D-Mass., tweeted that she had met on Thursday with Twitter representatives, who said the company would not take action against journalists who criticize the platform.

"Less than 12 hours later, multiple technology reporters have been suspended. What's the deal, @elonmusk?" Trahan added.

Musk has backtracked on his promise that he would run Twitter as a free speech absolutist, reinstating accounts associated with the QAnon movement and other far-right groups while banning others.

Internally, he has removed critics of his policies from the company.

The suspensions add to what has been a tumultuous couple of days for Twitter after it first suspended the account that tracked Musk's jet.

Musk appeared to threaten legal action against Sweeney, the creator of the @ElonJet account, after he claimed that a "stalker" confronted a car carrying his child in Los Angeles on Tuesday.

Musk provided no proof that Sweeney or his account was involved. He did not provide a time or location in the sprawling metropolitan area where he claimed the incident occurred.

Sweeney told NBC News on Wednesday that he hasn't received any notification of legal action and that the last time his bot tweeted anything was Monday, "which is not last night, so I don't get how that's connected."

The Los Angeles Police Department said Thursday that no police reports had been filed.

"LAPD's Threat Management Unit is aware of the situation and tweet by Elon Musk and is in contact with his representatives and security team. No crime reports have been filed yet," Officer Lizeth Lomeli, a police public information officer, said in a statement Thursday evening.

Other law enforcement departments also cover parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area.

CORRECTION (Friday, Dec. 16, 12:30 a.m.): A previous version of this article misspelled the last name of a Los Angeles police public information officer. She is Lizeth Lomeli, not Loeni.


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devangelical
Professor Principal
1  devangelical    2 months ago

gee, I guess musk meant the republican version of free speech for twitter...

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
2  George    2 months ago

The left whining about getting treated the exact same way as they treated the right is precious. Do i think it's right? no. But the lefts reaction is hysterical.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ronin2  replied to  George @2    2 months ago

No, the left is not getting treated exactly the same as the right.

The right were banned because the Biden campaign, and the FBI operating on their behalf, for having the gall to post the truth about Hunter Biden's lap top or Democrat dogma.

These assholes were actually doxxing the location of Musk and more importantly his family. Given todays political climate no way in hell should that be tolerated. If any journalist on the right was doxxing someone on the left- those self same journalists would be howling at the moon for suspension and criminal charges filed.

In case leftists missed it- his son was tracked and threatened.

They were only banned 7 days- not permanently like they should have been.

Elon Musk's 2-year-old son X faced a grave threat when a 'crazy stalker' stopped the car carrying him and climbed on its bonnet. Musk made the incident public on Twitter. The tweet comes hours after Musk decided to ban an account that followed his flight routes. Musk also tried to justify the ban of the account @ElonJet which was taken down for a 'physical safety violation'. The flight tracker's Twitter account and the personal account of Jack Sweeney, the person behind ElonJet, have been suspended.  In his tweet, Musk said, "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family."

The faux outrage from the left is completely hypocritical after supporting Twitter's shadow bans and permanent bans of conservatives. When they had violated a single Twitter rule.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    2 months ago
o, the left is not getting treated exactly the same as the right.

Obviously!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    2 months ago

it's always more expensive to be ignorant...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    2 months ago

So a tracker on a private plane either flying, or perhaps landing at an airfield,

supposedly led a stalker to locate Little X in a car which someone attacked?

Sounds Delusional of Musk to connect those "dots".

Sweeney doesn't track cars.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.3    2 months ago

seems as though rwnj's could use a tracker for all their wacko conspiracies.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.3    2 months ago
supposedly led a stalker

I think you touched on it. All it would take is somebody stalking Musk to set him off.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    2 months ago

gee, an attention whore attracting attention he doesn't want. maybe he should run for office...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Musk is trumpifying himself, and his fall will be just as ignominious. 

Although cranks do thrive in the modern world information based society, the majority of people still shakes their heads and sarcastically laugh at them. 

Elon Musk wasnt satisfied as being perceived as an incredibly successful innovator and entrepreneur, he also wanted to be worshiped by the masses. 

Problem is he isnt capable of making himself worthy.  Narcissism strikes again. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    2 months ago

"Suddenly".... After they doxed him!




This skewed article does not deserve to be on our front page.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
4.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago

See, that's the problem, there used to be 2 sets of rules, 1 for conservatives and 1 for the special need's liberal journalist. They don't like following the rules. Aren't they all supposed to be in Canada anyways?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @4.1    2 months ago

THAT'S RIGHT!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 months ago

wrong...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago
...Musk's behavior is indistinguishable at this moment from that of someone experiencing a personality meltdown and seeking succor from fringe communities willing to shower him with hero-worship because they also resent being treated as outcasts by the big, bad world.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago

NOT DOXED.  ASSHOLES LIKE MUSK ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN DOWNFALL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
4.3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @4.3    2 months ago

Quit shouting

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3.1    2 months ago

fuck off

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.4  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago

He claims they doxed him. He has no proof, does he? I mean that is a lot of publications that he said doxed him... I find it hard to believe. He just doesn't want to look like a hypocrite. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.4.1  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4    2 months ago

All the accounts did was show where planes take off and land. Hardly following him from where he goes from airports.

I also find it ironic that he himself tells people where he is. Hell all one has to do is go to the twitter office....

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
4.4.2  George  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4    2 months ago

Their tweets are the proof, they linked or retweeted information from Mastodon that showed where he was, that is doxing in spite of what others claim. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.4.3  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  George @4.4.2    2 months ago

I'd like to see said tweets. If it is common knowledge then it is not doxing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4    2 months ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.4.4    2 months ago

Most of the journalists recently covered the   suspension of @ElonJet , despite Musk avowing last month he would leave the account up as part of his “commitment to free speech.” The Twitter account, which tracked and shared the location of Musk’s private jet, was created by Jack Sweeney, a 20-year-old Florida college student. He relied on publicly available flight tracking information to build a Twitter bot that tweeted every time Musk’s Gulfstream was on the move.

The Tesla CEO has voiced his frustrations with the account in the past and has even   offered to pay Sweeney $5,000   to stop posting his location. However, when Sweeney made a counteroffer of $50,000, negotiations seemingly ceased.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.4.6  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.4.5    2 months ago

So, Vic, basically one guy was doing this based on public info and Musk was allowing it to be tweeted. How is this any of those publication's problem?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.6    2 months ago

Do you mean Sweeney posting Musk's whereabouts being the public information?

I think that's an intrusion of privacy

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.6    2 months ago
How is this any of those publication's problem?

If they link to Sweeney's post they are doing the same thing

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
4.4.9  George  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.3    2 months ago

Musk gets to define what is doxing on his site, He banned the twitter user who was posting real time location information on him, Bill Gates, Buffett and a couple others. The person posting that info moved his tracker to Mastodon, and the ignorant fools that Musk suspended linked to that banned information.  

Think of it like this, If you banned me for content that I posted here that could potentially put you and your family at risk, and i continued to post the information on 4chan, would you tolerate another poster linking to that information on your site? especially if that poster had millions more followers than i ever had?

You have rules on your site that you enforce, If I don't follow those rules i get ticketed and/or suspended. They refused to follow the rules.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.4.10  Jack_TX  replied to  George @4.4.9    2 months ago

That's a good explanation.  Thx.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
4.5  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago
This skewed article does not deserve to be on our front page.

Only yours are ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.5.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @4.5    2 months ago

that's easily remedied...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.5.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @4.5.1    2 months ago

Not really. You do get credit for trying.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.5.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.5.2    2 months ago

ezpz.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.6  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago

I have been covering Musk for years now, both good and bad. This article is no different from other articles I have posted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.6    2 months ago

Do you think that maybe a line giving his side of the story could have been included in let's say post 1?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.6.2  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.6.1    2 months ago

That is our memberships duty. Otherwise, there would be nothing to discuss.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.6.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.6.2    2 months ago

Well, as Douglas MacArthur once said "I tried to do my duty."


 Otherwise, there would be nothing to discuss.

You are right. I assume I could have done better?

I really didn't need that line quoted in Post 4.5, did I?

I guess I could have been much nicer. I didn't mean it as an attack. If I came on too strong, I apologize.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.6.4  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.6.3    2 months ago

It's all good!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.6.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.6.4    2 months ago

I hope reporters all got the message:

You may not reveal real-time location information of a person (and their family) on social media without consequences.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.6.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.6.1    2 months ago
Do you think that maybe a line giving his side of the story could have been included in let's say post 1?

I've noticed that's always a hard and fast rule in your hit pieces... /s

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
4.6.7  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.6.5    2 months ago
I hope reporters all got the message:

Reporting anything bad about Musk will get you banned.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.6.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.6.4    2 months ago

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sandy-2021492
Professor Principal
4.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago
This skewed article does not deserve to be on our front page.

Irony.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
4.8  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 months ago
This skewed article does not deserve to be on our front page.

Oh the irony?

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
5  freepress    2 months ago

Clear suppression of a free press, dumping journalists for right wing trolls to prove he is "fair and balanced". The law suit that should be filed even though it is a private company is that many people use twitter as a means of income, if they can prove they did not break any rules and all of these unknown arbitrary decisions are being made on a whim rather than notifying users prior to suspension, then they have a case of lost income. This definitely proves how each one suspended lost income due to losing social media access to thousands and thousands of followers who support their work. While it is well documented how Musk has cheated his own workers and treated them, he seems to feel he can do the same thing on social media without consequences. The suspended journalists lose income from lack of access to their consumers on social media so I hope they get the backing from their networks to approach it in that way if a suit is filed. If Musk is just tearing down what he thinks are "liberal, progressive" voices he is going to find a surprise. Right wing haters won't have anybody left to hate if all of these accounts are gone. If all he and all of his right wing cheerleaders want is another Fox echo chamber, all they have left is to shout at each other.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  freepress @5    2 months ago

Doxing is not speech. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
5.1.1  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    2 months ago
Doxing is not speech. 

Repeating public information is not Doxing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.1    2 months ago

It was doxing!

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
5.1.3  George  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.1    2 months ago

Do you have a link to where it was published before it was posted on twitter? 

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
5.1.4  evilgenius  replied to  George @5.1.3    2 months ago

The news accounts talked about in the article were banned after they reported on the kid posting publicly found information on Elon Musk's Jet. They also pointed out where Musk said he wouldn't ban the account and where Twitter has appended a statement to that very post. You can find it on multiple news sites, but here's one for you.

Catch up quick:   Sweeney tweeted   Wednesday   that "it appears @ElonJet is suspended."
  • The account, which has more than 500,000 followers, actively tracks Musk's location through public flight-tracking data.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
5.1.5  George  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.4    2 months ago

Doxing.

the action or process of searching for and publishing private or identifying information about a particular individual on the internet, typically with malicious intent:

So it was absolutely doxing, and against twitters new rules, I'm glad he is teaching the ignorant morons that the rules apply to them. They can go to Mastodon and have 10's of followers, or maybe truth social? 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Ender  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.4    2 months ago

Me thinks people are now twisting what doxing means just to praise anything musk does. Just like they use to hero worship trump, their hero worship has moved on to musk. He can do no wrong in their eyes.

As long as they think they can piss off some libs, is all they care about.

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
5.1.7  evilgenius  replied to  George @5.1.5    2 months ago
So it was absolutely doxing, 

Applying the definition is so thin you could read through it. Considering there are still 100s of similar accounts up that are doing the exact same thing to other celebrities.  Many of them run by the same kid. I'm really, really, really hoping that Musk will try to sue the kid as he claims he's doing. The kid could counter sue and make bank.

and against twitters new rules,

Rules Musk wrote to specifically target this account. No big deal. Musk can run everyone off so that only right wing trolls and Nazis will use it.

I'm glad he is teaching the ignorant morons that the rules apply to them.

What he's teaching people is that the First Amendment Crusader Musk touted himself to be is a joke. 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
5.1.8  George  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.7    2 months ago

On what grounds can the kid counter sue? Go!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  George @5.1.8    2 months ago

Do keep u

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.9    2 months ago

up

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
5.1.11  evilgenius  replied to  George @5.1.8    2 months ago
On what grounds can the kid counter sue?

Harassment and/or defamation come to mind right off the top.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
5.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  George @5.1.5    2 months ago

Elon does not need to be identified any more that Joe Bidens address needs to be published.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.13  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    2 months ago

Actually, it is not. 

Posting private information is doxing. 

This is all out there.

I know as a fact, that members have looked up public information on me. They are still here.

BUT......Posting private on any member is grounds for permanent suspension.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.13    2 months ago
This is all out there.

His current coordinates are already out there?


It's too bad that we didn't see all of this outrage when an entire news organization with a legitimate news story was banned from Twitter or when people had their accounts closed for voicing an opinion or as we are now learning, the FBI was actively engaged in violating the first amendment. Why don't those stories get promoted to our front page? 

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
5.1.15  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.14    2 months ago
Why don't those stories get promoted to our front page? 

Has  someone stopped you, have you not been posting several per day?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @5.1.15    2 months ago

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Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.17  Ender  replied to  devangelical @5.1.16    2 months ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.18  devangelical  replied to  Ender @5.1.17    2 months ago

how about that study documenting that twice as many republicans as democrats died from covid? "nobody is going to make me get the vaccine" >croak< LOL

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.19  Ender  replied to  Ender @5.1.17    2 months ago

Ok, tell me how posting about an actual study is taunting....

Bunch of bullshit.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
5.1.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @5.1.18    2 months ago

Who knew that Repubs had so many people of color.

  • Total cumulative data show Black, Hispanic, American Indian or Alaska Native (AIAN), and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (NHOPI) people have experienced higher rates of COVID-19 cases and deaths compared to White people when data are adjusted to account for differences in age by race and ethnicity.
 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.21  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.20    2 months ago

gee, how did I end up on the false equivalency article? oh wait, I didn't...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

I give Twitter one year before it folds

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    2 months ago

Nope...advertisers value public platforms at call costs. Just look at Google and You Tube

Once the novelty of an uncensored forum wears off, they'll come flooding back

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    2 months ago

Or he'll get new advertisers like Preparation H, Mydol and the like,,,/S

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.1    2 months ago

The My Pillow Moron is a good advertiser!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    2 months ago

50% off with the code "bankrupt"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago

And we are seeing the results of leftists tactics being used against leftists.  Now they think it's wrong.  

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
7.1  evilgenius  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    2 months ago
And we are seeing the results of leftists tactics being used against leftists.  Now they think it's wrong.  

It may, or may not be wrong, but it is majorly hypocritical. Especially when twitter has to append a message saying an account was banned on an Elon Musk tweet saying he wouldn't ban that account. 

Personally I hope it gets worse. Nothing would please me more than Musk running his companies into bankruptcy so something better can rise from the ashes. Tesla stock has tanked over the year and nosedived after Musk took over Twitter. It's so bad even Musk is selling a lot of it. Also Starlink raised it prices awhile back when thousands were still waiting for paid equipment and then they complained there was no one answering the customer service number.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Ender  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    2 months ago

I always thought Tesla was way over valued. Now I read that some of his lenders are going to face having their loans downgraded as they cannot be paid back for face value.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    2 months ago

Yet some act like he's some fucking savior.  Makes me want to vomit.

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
7.1.3  evilgenius  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    2 months ago
Yet some act like he's some fucking savior.

The same people who villified him when they thought him some Progressive leader during Tesla's early days.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.3    2 months ago

Whatever

Never really knew much or cared about him before he became such a big asshole

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    2 months ago
It may, or may not be wrong, but it is majorly hypocritical.

You mean like many have said about the left for a very long time and it still continued?  That kind of hypocritical?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    2 months ago

Tesla dropped to $150.23 today.

800

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.6    2 months ago

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George
Freshman Guide
7.2  George  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    2 months ago

Or course they don't think it's wrong, they would still embrace it fully.......as long as it happens to the "other" side. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  George @7.2    2 months ago

That's exactly it.  

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
7.2.2  George  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.1    2 months ago

It’s amazing how outraged the hypocrites are, gives me a smile to start the weekend.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8  Ender    2 months ago

Of course the right wing loves him. An egotistical jackass that now is an egomaniac. He is now having some God like complex...

I can see him going the way of Kanye...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @8    2 months ago

And Charlie Sheen.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
9  George    2 months ago

I wonder if the left would support the creation of a tracking app that gave 24hour real time location of Sasha and Malia?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  George @9    2 months ago

DEFECTION!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    2 months ago

He also has other accounts that track jets of people like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos.

Funny this was never a problem before, now musk says jump and the right wing says, duh...ok.....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.7  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @9.1.1    2 months ago

Comments from this thread were removed for a slap fight. Knock it off. Only warning.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
9.2  Split Personality  replied to  George @9    2 months ago

No problem if they owned their own airplanes and the FAA made the information available to the public.

I simply cannot wrap my head around why you cannot wrap your head around that simple fact.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10  Tessylo    2 months ago

I MEANT DEFLECTION

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
10.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @10    2 months ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
11  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

So musk is moderating like the old management team.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
11.1  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @11    2 months ago

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Ender
Professor Principal
12  Ender    2 months ago
All four accounts had been singled out for criticism by Andy Ngo, a far-right writer whose   conspiratorial ,   error-riddled reporting   on left-wing protests and social movements has fueled the   mass delusion   that antifa is not just a handful of small antifascist groups that counter right-wing threats, which it is, but a shadow army of domestic terrorists, which it is not. Musk is apparently among those who have mistaken Ngo’s largely fictional reporting for fact. In a   public exchange   on Twitter on Friday, Musk invited Ngo to report “Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him.
“Andy Ngo’s bizarre vision of ‘antifa’ seems to be the metric used to delete the accounts of journalists and publications, most of which engaged in verifiably good journalism and done so completely above board and TOS observant ways,” Shane Burley, editor of the anthology “ ¡No Pasarán! : Antifascist Dispatches From a World in Crisis,”  observed on Twitter . “Paranoid delusions about antifa are driving it.”

Also seems the right wing is going on a flaggot campaign to try to get people they want suspended.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
12.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @12    2 months ago

Antifa and BLM are well known for their bitter and sour fruits (riots and fire bombings)....and their violence against civilians and law enforcement.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
13  Hallux    2 months ago

The current rightwing has bought into narcissism like it's the latest, bestest thing ever. Toss in some chaos and it's the second coming into their pasty palms ... patsies being punked by pukes.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
13.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @13    2 months ago

Wow!  Lots of peeing going on there.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
13.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @13.1    2 months ago

Comes with age, if you are not there yet you soon will be.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
13.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @13.1.1    2 months ago

Only once a night.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
14  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Apparently Musk's sin is lack of subtlety and nuance.  The preferred manner of doing this, established by the press, is to engage in circular reporting to coerce someone else into pulling the plug.  Musk just pulls the plug himself which is intolerable.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
14.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @14    2 months ago
Musk's sin is lack of subtlety and nuance.

Toss in hubris and both have a dance partner.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
14.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @14.1    2 months ago
Toss in hubris and both have a dance partner.

The gilded outrage used by the press to coerce institutions into pulling the plug on speech doesn't come from a position of humility.  Musk isn't displaying any more hubris than does the New York Times.

Musk hasn't employed the subtlety of guilt shaming.  Musk just pulled the plug on his own.  The press wasn't in the loop.  And the press takes great pride in its power to coerce.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
14.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @14.1.1    2 months ago
And the press takes great pride in its power to coerce.

I have noticed the satisfied smirks that litter Tucker's hour.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
15  al Jizzerror    2 months ago

Musk is knee deep in "double think".

He tried to make himself the glorious guardian of free speech.

He said Twitter was going to be a bastion of free speech.

Butt, guess what?  Elon Musk is transforming Twitter into a right-wing echo chamber.

He is kicking people off of Twitter because he can.  It's his site and he can fuck it up if he wants to.

He already lost Twitter's main source of revenue (Apple) and I have a feeling that there will be an erosion of users.

I was kicked off of Twitter years ago.  If I still had an account there, I would suggest that people leaving Twitter should  check out NewsTalkers.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
15.1  Ender  replied to  al Jizzerror @15    2 months ago

Marjorie Taylor Green, Musk and trump stranded on a sinking boat.

Musk says, I built this, it was voted on by right wing twitter.

Donald says, everyone knows I have the biggest boat around.

Green says, if I had a boat it would have guns on the side.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
15.2  Greg Jones  replied to  al Jizzerror @15    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
15.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @15    2 months ago
Elon Musk is transforming Twitter into a right-wing echo chamber.

And it wasn't a left-wing echo chamber?  Sounds like you are upset that it's no longer a left-wing echo chamber.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Junior Expert
15.3.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.3    2 months ago
And it wasn't a left-wing echo chamber?

Really?

Then why did I get banned for trolling The Donald?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
15.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @15.3.1    2 months ago
Then why did I get banned for trolling The Donald?

You can't read your question and not figure it out yourself?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
15.3.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  al Jizzerror @15.3.1    2 months ago

It's not WHAT you do. It's HOW you do it.

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George
Freshman Guide
16  George    2 months ago

Best comment of the day?

Suspending Olbermann seems particularly cruel. He's been fired from every place he's ever worked, and now a place he didn't.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1  Texan1211  replied to  George @16    2 months ago

Keith Olbermann is an ass and probably always has been, even going back to his ESPN days.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
17  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

The left wing bubble is simply amazing.  

(1)  Documented reports that twitter executives lied to Congress, silenced legitimate news stories, colluded with the government to silence dissent ,  made up standards as they went along to silence Donald Trump and others are ignored by the media.

( 2) Musk bans a few left wing reporters a  day and the MSM loses it mind and left wing governments threaten to fine and sanction Twitter.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
18  Kavika     2 months ago

Twitter/Musk has become the newest Three Ring Circus to the enjoyment of many. 

In another head-snapping move Musk has re-instated the ''big bad journalists''...

Musk reinstates suspended journalists after Twitter poll

Pass the popcorn.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
18.1  Ender  replied to  Kavika @18    2 months ago

He is a clown show.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
18.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @18.1    2 months ago

... in an all clown circus.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
18.1.2  Ender  replied to  devangelical @18.1.1    2 months ago

I swear, some of these people would lay down and let musk spit on them, their adoration is so blind.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
18.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ender @18.1.2    2 months ago

yeah, but he really knows how to own those libs, doesn't he? /s

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
18.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @18.1.3    2 months ago
yeah, but he really knows how to own those libs, doesn't he?

No one wants to own a lib.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
18.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @18.1.4    2 months ago

then stick with what you can afford.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
18.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @18.1.5    2 months ago
then stick with what you can afford.

It isn't a question of affordability--they are a dime a dozen.

The question is what the hell would I do with one?

 
 
 
Have Opinion Will Travel
Professor Participates
19  Have Opinion Will Travel    2 months ago

"Criticizing me all day long is totally fine, but doxxing my real-time location and endangering my family is not," he said in another tweet.

People that support this type of behavior by journalists are truly awful. I see evidence of that here.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.1  devangelical  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @19    2 months ago

why are people that knowingly and willingly place targets on themselves surprised when others start taking shots at them?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
19.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @19.1    2 months ago

We had a member doxed on NV.

Did she "place a target" (whatever the fuck that means) on herself?

Does anyone deserve to be doxed?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @19.1.1    2 months ago

it's been so long, refresh my memory...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
19.1.3  JBB  replied to  devangelical @19.1.2    2 months ago

I witnessed it when NJ Person and Ron W revealed Angry Left's real name and where he worked and then they reported him to his work place and his state's veterinary boards for saying he would not provide equal service for police dogs. They also encouraged others to also harass him at his home and his workspace. They were rightly banned from NV but, of course, they just reregged...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.1.4  devangelical  replied to  JBB @19.1.3    2 months ago

ah yes, I remember that. the foam and froth of tea party sewage on NV. I kicked ron w so many times in the bollocks, he knew my shoe size. what a waste of fetid flesh. but I seriously doubt that's what vic was talking about, since it involved a liberal being doxxed...

personally, I was having too much fun facilitating the tea party bicycle, addadicktome, get banned repeatedly, along with all her impotent white knights whenever they reregged. I wonder what she's doing now that her hero is circling the bowl. maybe her coke dealer boyfriend is the go to guy for jr now...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
19.1.5  JBB  replied to  devangelical @19.1.4    2 months ago

Once time Sally busted ATM for having so many sock puppet accounts she was able to collapse articles all by herself. She got banned and then reregged so many times I lost track...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
19.2  Ender  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @19    2 months ago

No matter how many times you and other people say otherwise, posting public information is not doxing.

People that follow the word of someone without even having critical thought and just obeying is what is wrong with this country.

 
 

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