Ukraine claims massive drone strike on Russian bombers in 'Spiderweb' operation
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Ukraine's Security Servicesaid it has struck more than 40 Russian bombers deep inside Russian territory in what would be one of the largest and most audacious attacks on Russian territory in the yearslong conflict.
A sourcewithin the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told NBC News that the country targeted "41 strategic Russian aircraft" in an offensive operation code-named "Spiderweb."
The sourcealso released dramatic video purportedly showing a drone attack at the Belaya air base in Russia's Irkutsk region, located in Siberia, nearly 3,000 miles from Ukraine. The video captures bombers under attack, with explosions visible and smoke rising from the scene.
"Preliminary estimates indicate that enemy aviation has suffered over $2 billion in damage," the source said. "Enemy strategic bombers are burning en masse in Russia."
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at a briefing in Kyiv on May 19.Efrem Lukatsky / AP file
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy praised Ukraine's Security Service for executing what it called its longest-range operation, more than 18 months in the making, calling it a historic success.
The source inside the SBU confirmed that the remarkable attack had been in the works for over a year and a half. According to the source, the SBU first smuggled drones into Russia, followed by mobile wooden cabins. Once they were inside Russia, the drones were hidden under cabin roofs mounted on cargo trucks. During the attack, the roofs opened remotely, enabling the drones to launch at Russian bombers, according to the source, who added that the operation was overseen by Zelenskyy and executed by the country's Security Service.
NBC News could not independently verify the claims.
Russia did not immediately comment on the bombings, but Irkutsk's regional governor, Igor Kobzev, said on Telegram that there had been a drone attack "on a military unit in the settlement of Sredny."
He did not say whether the Belaya air base or others were hit, but said the drone was launched from a truck.
Russian officials in the Ryazan and Murmansk regions also reported drone activity Sunday afternoon, according to The Associated Press, but did not give further details.
The attack follows a night of bombardment, with Russia launching 472 drones, Ukraine's air force said. Earlier Sunday, Ukraine's army said a Russian missile strike on an army training unit killed at least 12 Ukrainian service members and injured 60.
The latest escalation comes just a day before Russia and Ukraine are scheduled to meet for a second round of direct talks in Istanbul.
Zelenskyy appeared to confirm Kyiv's participation Sunday, saying on X that he had "outlined the tasks for the near term and also defined our positions ahead of the meeting in Istanbul on Monday."
"First — a full and unconditional ceasefire. Second — the release of prisoners. Third — the return of abducted children," he said.
On Saturday night, two bridges collapsed in Russian regions bordering Ukraine, killing seven and injuring dozens. Russian officials alleged deliberate sabotage.
The first collapse occurred late Saturday in Bryansk, crashing onto railway tracks and derailing an approaching train, according to Gov. Alexander Bogomaz.
"Unfortunately, there are seven fatalities," he posted on Telegram, later adding that 47 people had been hospitalized.
Hours later in the Kursk region, a railway bridge collapsed while a freight train was crossing it, according to acting Gov. Alexander Khinshtein.
The Associated Press contributed.
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That was a major victory for Ukraine.
take note maga ...
Of?
So glad that I don't have a dog in this fight!
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Excellent news.
I wonder if they could pull off a strike on the Kremlin.
$600 drones taking out multi-million dollar aircraft ...
this pioneering concept has the DoD shitting bricks.
Those cheap, retail kamikaze drones are taking out everything Russia has despite their much much more advanced military technology.
the US is trying to catch up in weaponized drone tech and we have nothing to deter it happening in the US.
Drones have a very limited operating distance due to battery life. The drones used in Russia had to be smuggled in and positioned as close as possible to their intended targets, do you actually think Russia will let that happen again, every shipping container will be stopped and searched well beyond the radius of a drone. I'm sure the US will do the same.
we're not in russia.
the drones that took out 40% of russia's bomber fleet flew something like 35 miles, thru electronic jamming ...
So you're hoping for WW3?
I'm hoping for Ukraine to stop the invasion of their country, which has included attacks on their capitol city. Aren't you?
Dont worry, Trump will stop it all within 24 hours.
trumpski is unhappy that zelenskyy didn't tell him beforehand, so he could warn putin in advance ...
naturally
Like everything else he promised.
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Ukraine has Russia on the run this time, for sure. Anybody happen to notice the repetition in these reports?
This attack was extremely well planned, as well as the operations that Israel has pulled off.
A Taylor Swift concert requires a lot of planning. What did Ukraine get for all the planning?
The Israeli operation against Hezbollah required more than planning. The Israeli attack was technically sophisticated. And the result was Hezbollah quite literally crippled. The Israeli attack on Hezbollah fundamentally removed the threat.
What did Ukraine achieve with the drone attack? A public relations coupe? Were the bombers that were damaged and destroyed really important to Russia's military campaign? Zelensky told the press that this drone operation had been in the works for a year and half. Doesn't that suggest Ukraine has been planning for a protracted war?
Today there were reports of a Ukrainian attack on the Kerch Bridge using underwater mines. (Reminiscent of the attack on the Nord Stream pipeline.) Was the bridge destroyed? Was the bridge made unserviceable? What did Ukraine get from that operation other than public relations?
If reports are true: One third of Russia's nuclear bomber force is gone AND you can bet that every truck & trailer within Russia is being stopped and inspected.
What did Ukraine achieve with the drone attack? A public relations coupe? Were the bombers that were damaged and destroyed really important to Russia's military campaign?
I've heard that Ukraine is producing about 1 million inexpensive drones per year. Those items have played a big part in the war.
Today there were reports of a Ukrainian attack on the Kerch Bridge using underwater mines. (Reminiscent of the attack on the Nord Stream pipeline.) Was the bridge destroyed? Was the bridge made unserviceable? What did Ukraine get from that operation other than public relations?
At the very least, a lot of concern for Vladimir Putin. How does Putin explain to the Russian people all that has been lost for some territory?
Is Russia really planning to use strategic bombers to fight a nuclear war? That's technology from the 1960s and 1970s.
Yep. They're mostly quad copters that have an extremely small payloads. The quad copters have proven to be effective anti-personnel weapons. The quad copters have a typical payload capacity of 5 to 15 kg, according to reports. They're not blockbusters. Ukraine is developing drones that can carry a 250 kg bomb (equivalent to two passengers in a light aircraft) but those aren't quadcopters.
Putin has been repeating the same justifications used for invading in 2022. Putin has not been losing popular support among the Russian people.
Ukraine's attacks on oil storage and infrastructure have been effective.
Ukraine has attacked airports in the past and claimed to have destroyed aircraft using long range missiles. Ukraine has attacked Moscow with drones and missiles. Long range missiles and improved SAMs would be a bigger threat to the Russian homeland than quad copter drones. If Ukraine had deployed the quad copter drones in an attack on Crimea and the Kerch bridge then, perhaps, they would have accomplished something. Attacking Russia's flying aircraft museum didn't accomplish very much.
Strategic bombers are one leg of the nuclear deterrent tripod for them, same as us. Hell, we are still flying the B-52's.
One thing that seems to be missing from all of this is that we have not learned a very important lesson that was taught way back in 1940. These cheap drones have been very effective in the battlefield yet we're still planning the next war based on how the last war was fought. Russian doctrine hasn't really changed from WWII with the massed artillery strikes and massed solders attacking.
The purpose of a deterrence force is ability to counterstrike as part of a Mutually Assured Destruction policy. Removing Russia's deterrence means that Russia can be attacked with nuclear weapons and Russia doesn't have the ability to respond.
Why would Ukraine desire to make Russia vulnerable to nuclear attack? What would be the inherent dangers of that strategy?
Both Russia and Ukraine are using the same tactics of massed artillery and 'over the top' assaults. Ukraine has drained the artillery stockpiles of Europe and the United States and resupply has become problematic.
Ukraine has been provided more technologically advanced weapons but that has not proven to have been decisive. Modern technological methods of war doesn't seem to have changed the battlefield in a substantive manner.
The war in Ukraine has been a test bed for western military theories (and promises). And yet the trench warfare of World War I seems to dominate the battlefield on both sides of the defensive lines.
russian ground tactics haven't changed since WWII. send an army of ill-equipped into the hail of bullets.
Well, you are the one who posted
Now it seems as if you're backing away from that. Of course the bomber force is one leg of the ability to contain MAD. But you seem dismissive of that arm as it's old technology and I was just pointing out that we still rely heavily on the old B-52.
Considering the vast difference in resources and manpower these two countries have, I would say that the advanced weapons from Ukraine have definitely proven decisive. Had they not been so effective, just think how quickly Russia could have conquered the entire country.
No, I'm not backing away from by question about using bombers to fight a nuclear war. You poo-pooed the question. So I responded to your comment by assuming you are correct and pointing out the implications of you being correct.
Apparently returning to the 1980s and exploring the implications of destroying a superpower's nuclear deterrent isn't comfortable, either. Why? Because it points out the Ukraine is flirting with starting a nuclear war that the United States will need to fight? Does that make Ukraine an ally or a problem?
Russia has been using similar drones. Why would drones only be decisive for Ukraine?
Your question was
Yes, strategic bombers (as you agree with) are one leg of the nuclear triad that both Russia and the USA have, and both powers have plans to use all three legs in a nuclear conflict. Now if that is not the question you meant to have answered than you would need to be clearer. We have 76 B-52 Stratofortress bombers, 45 B-1 Lancer bombers, and 20 B-2 Spirit bombers. The first B-52 was built in 1955 and while they have been upgraded several times and the older models retired, these are still initially technology from the 1950's.
Absolutely not comfortable. The purpose behind MAD was that after a first strike, the country that had been attacked would have sufficient on hand to deal a devastating blow to the attacker.
As to if Ukraine is thinking about starting a nuclear war in order to drag the US in, I don't know about that as I'm not in the inner circles of either country's leadership and I don't read minds. But I also know that both platforms that Russa use are also used to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine. Reducing the available platforms could also be a goal of Ukraine to reduce the potential damage by limiting the number of missiles that can be launched.
Didn't say they were only decisive to Ukraine. The point was that the US (and Russia to an extent also) spend a lot of capital on platforms to fight wars the way they have in the past. Ukraine has really shown the power of drones, much more than Russia has. If a $1000 drone can take out a multi-million dollar bomber, we need to really get to work on how better to intercept and prevent drones from attacking our military.
But the real drone innovation has been by the Ukranian technical Navy. They have evolved from self propelled kamikaze submarines that attacked the Crimean bridge, to jet ski kamikazes that sank or chased away Kalibar missile boats to semi submersible platforms with modified air to air missiles that have recently taken out two Rusiann fighter jets and several helicopters just in May.
Russia's defense has been to run away, they have no answers yet.
our own DoD is freaking out about new drone technology and is racing to catch up to ukraine ...
And BTW, Israel has been working on another "anti-missile technology" that once perfected will be effective and relativle inexpensive-- a laser weapon that could take down not only missiles, but also hordes of drones!
Well following that sort of "logic" though-- that means we should abandon all our friends-- all our NATO allies...because any one of the could attack Russia-- (or otherwise piss off Putin)-- and then there would be nuclear war.
Let's abandon our friends!
(/sarc)
Shirley you're not referring to "Jewish space lasers", are you?
Slicing off the context of the 1980s won't substantiate a falsehood implying NATO attacked and destroyed Russia's nuclear deterrent.
Ukraine is bragging about destroying Russia's strategic capability. Isn't that an invitation for the US or the UK or France to attack Russia while it is weak? Ukraine is claiming that Russia can't strike back now.
Who claims Ukraine disabled Russia's military strategic capacity? Got a link?
I don't think anyone actually believes it.
Check the Seed Link for starters.
Putin will go nuclear before he backs down. So sad.
The right wing MAGA response has already begun
"Ukraine is being reckless"
They are being reckless - and when the pushing comes to shoving there will be no or few foreign troops coming to Ukraine's aid against Russia- this has been going on for 3 years .. if the military powers of the world were going to actually provide ground support they would have already .. financially supporting Ukraine is unsustainable .. the further Zelenskyy pushes into Russia, the closer the threat of WWlll and nuclear tactical war heads being used.
This is no longer Ukraine defending itself ... this is an escalation.. Ukraine must defend itself, I get that, so should Israel but Zelenskyy is not Netanyahu .. Netanyahu has trained for this time in history pretty much all his life - Zelenskyy not so much, he is counting on being bailed out... when one is counting on others to help you finish the race .. that is the very definition of reckless.
Just my opinion
Peace...
everybody has one of those too ...
I'm waiting for china, iran, or some local yokels to make a move on russia now, because of it's new vulnerability ...
Iran has more than enough problems of their own right now with the Israelis to care about goings on in Ukraine.
... from a stunt the maga fuhrer pulled in his last term.
They are being reckless - and when the pushing comes to shoving there will be no or few foreign troops coming to Ukraine's aid against Russia
So I suppose we should pullU.S. troops out of all of Eastern Europe-- after all any one of thoses countries might start a nuclear war...???
The United States has enhanced its military presence in Central and Eastern Europe since 2014, with rotational U.S. forces conducting training and exercises in the Baltic states and a persistent rotational presence of U.S. forces in Lithuania since 2019.
Trump is being reckless.
Alex Jones says NATO attacked Russia with the drones
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Jones needs a nap
Alex Jones has 4.4 million followers on X
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Otherwise, we could end up with another Eric Trump..!
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Anyone walking around Moscow should be looking up. There are bound to be high level Russian military staff falling out of windows for a few weeks
Or keeping their heads down. That's what you get when you let Wanna-Be dictators into power. People walking on eggshells trying not to lose their jobs or their metaphorical heads (or literal heads when you're talking Putin).
Trump, another one of those Wanna-Be dictators, has taken the entire Republican party hostage because just about two thirds of the party decided it was more fun to support a total fuck-up that will give progressives nightmares than to actually just present their case that living as a conservative Christian is the best way to live (I guess they know they can't win). Thankfully, there is still the other half of the American public who want nothing to do with MAGA and all the corrosive destructive rightwing authoritarianism they represent. We will not be turning into another faux constitutional Republican like Russia anytime soon because we are far stronger than the sniveling whiny little pissant suck-ups who have been humping Trumps leg hoping to get those treats he promised all the white rightwing conservative leg humpers.
Always funny when a response to a comment about something (like Moscow) is taken as an opportunity to have a rant about Trump.
putin's man in DC ...
Putin is all about throwing folk out of windows.
I hope this is 100% accurate.
If they could start inflicting damage and loss of life on Russian towns and cities to the extent that Putin targets purely civilian targets it would change the negotiation process I think.
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Stupid is spewing insults when you have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation
so much for russian aircraft launched cruise missiles ...
um...thank God?
maga is unhappy that zelenskyy is making their hero's bff look like they're both impotent stooges every day ...
Does this sound like a presidential leader ?
Sure
... and fire more missiles into apartment buildings.
It sounds like Trump approves. Undoubtedly, many, if not most, of Trump's supporters approve, too.
Trump is Putin's bitch.
gee, it's too bad there's no trump tower in moscow, ... for ukranian drones to slam into ...
Because Hilary says so!
I'm sure shes flattered you still care enough to mindlessly bring her up.
She is noted for one thing: tying Trump to Putin.
AKA the lie that won't die even with a stake through the heart. It just keeps going.
So early in the day but I nominate that statement for bullshit of the day award.
Trump tied Trump to Putin.
LMAO! That doesn't tie him to Russia. For those who can't even understand that statement, allow me:
In other words, our own FBI wasn't interested in finding them and even gave immunity to the one who destroyed them. Thus, Trump is asking the very people who likely intercepted the e-mails off Hillary's private server to let us have them.
He was asking Putin to meddle in the US election, a theme he has gone back to more than once since.
Save that for the Trump haters. It defies logic.
I yield to trump's expertise on that concept ...
Really?
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Republicans squirm as Trump presses Putin for dirt on Bidens
WASHINGTON — Republicans on Capitol Hill found themselves in an awkward but familiar spot this week: being asked to respond to yet another controversy sparked by Donald Trump .
This time it was the former president’s urging Vladimir Putin to release dirt on the Biden family as the Russian president wages a bloody and devastating war in Ukraine that has killed thousands of civilians and displaced millions more.
Trump’s request twisted congressional Republicans into a political pretzel: GOP lawmakers have been pushing President Joe Biden to get more aggressive in helping Ukraine combat Putin, whom they’ve called a “thug” and a “murderer,” but now Republicans are being asked why their party's de facto leader is making a direct appeal to Putin, whom he has recently praised as "savvy" and a "genius."
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There was also the attempted extortion of Zelensky in 2019.
Circling back to the failed "Russia Collusion" idiocy again?
I agree-- Hillary has way too much power!!!
She should be impreached and removed from power ASAP!
(BTW, thanks for bringing that up. While it should be obvious, there may be some people here who still don't realize that!)
He didn't write that
No. It's much too coherent, and there aren't endless caps-locked insults aimed at liberals.
As opposed to the superbly articulate Biden & Harris.
That statement shows great weakness.
Point out the caps-locked rants from Biden or Harris. Bonus points if they're inappropriate rants on days meant to be honoring servicemen and servicewomen who fell in battle defending our nation. I won't be holding my breath.
You conveniently left out coherent. They were both dumb as rocks and the one that got elected was controlled by leftwing radicals.
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we got draft dodger trump's take on those suckers and losers in his last term ...
Harris has plenty of faults, but dumb as a rock is not one of them. Biden was never known as a genius but he certainly is not dumb as a rock.
Trump, in contrast, is not smart. His weekly actions illustrate this clearly to those who are not blinded by partisanship.
Do you still think his public threats and execution of tariffs is smart? Do you believe Trump is helping the economy, is helping to lower prices, etc?
Do you still think Trump is a brilliant negotiator? Do you even compare his promises to what he has delivered?
Trump is great at creating problems. He sucks at doing the hard work of actually fixing problems.
Yup, that sounds like one overworked human being and btw, I love listening even then.
But there is no defense of this:
Yup, that sounds like one overworked human being and btw, I love listening even then. But there is no defense of this:
So, you're not going to deny that he's incoherent. You're just going to try to excuse it.
between all the texting, watching FOX on TV, chasing camera lenses, and playing golf, it's a rough schedule that leaves little time for governing ...
Yes, I am.
Well, I'd say that's an exercise in futility, which is why you deflect to Biden and Harris. Harris, BTW, was in no way incoherent in your video, despite the ridiculous spin attempted by your source. I seem to recall Trump getting confused as to the location of his limo, but I'm sure you'd rather not remember that. You know, the limo that was literally right in front of him?
Giving incoherent and inappropriate speeches to military academy grads, spatting with ketamine-addicted techbros...
It's exhausting, truly.
In that case I'll let you have the last word.
I have him where I want him. I just want him to do as he promised.
Also, there was nothing incoherent about his speech, nor did he wander off into the rain forest. There were clearly other people on the path in the direction he was heading. So this was just a dishonest comment.
Biden is no longer PotUS. Instead of trying to defend Trump by comparing him to Biden's worst moments, pay close attention to what the idiot Trump is doing to this nation and its people. Fuck the partisan politics and look objectively at Trump's actions.
This guy is a trainwreck. He is chaos. He is a 5th grader with the car keys and a credit card.
That is what is done in campaigns. What a stupid criticism.
They clearly can't defend the indefensible actions of Trump, all they have left is trying to distract and deflect with inane irrelevant what-a-boutisms.
And they do such a terrible job of it, to the point of needing to blatantly and ridiculously grasp at straws trying to make Biden and Harris look as bad as Trump.
Neither Harris nor Biden were incoherent in the videos Vic posted. Biden did not wander into the jungle. He walked along the path behind him, and other people can clearly be seen in the area toward which he walked. Biden is not much of an orator, but his speech was coherent.
the last election was between a criminal/traitor and a seasoned prosecutor. look what the majority chose ...
"oh, it was this big ass cadillac limo, at the bottom of the stairs from AF1, with the presidential seal on the door ..."
... derp.
But what he did still haunts us. A lot of unvetted crazies, criminals and terrorists are imbedded the country and they will remind us of him over the coming decades. And the problem with passing the budget is that too much of those expensive Biden programs (Build back better and the green New Deal) have not been radically cut away.
Instead of trying to defend Trump by comparing him to Biden's worst moments, pay close attention to what the idiot Trump is doing to this nation and its people. Fuck the partisan politics and look objectively at Trump's actions.
This guy is a trainwreck. He is chaos. He is a 5th grader with the car keys and a credit card.
Instead of the meaningless name-calling and people trying to compare rambling with total incoherence, why not just look at the facts. In March thru April, all the way into May the monthly data revealed that real income is up substantially and so is the savings rate. Energy prices are down. The inflation rate was down to 2.1 % in April and best of all the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta now says the economy could grow at an annual rate of 4.6%
The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta's GDPNow forecasting model indicates a 4.6% annual growth rate for the economy as of June 2, 2025. This estimate reflects a positive outlook for the economy, with recent updates showing an increase in real personal consumption expenditures and real gross private domestic investment growth.
GDPNow - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
As you should know. A higher growth rate means greater federal revenues. Trump has done quite a bit to improve the economy.
Let us be fair.
You continue to exaggerate Biden's failures and essentially ignore those of Trump.
Name the policies in effect that explain these conditions. You know, Vic, it takes time for a policy to have an effect. For example, Trump's brain-dead tariffs have yet to impact consumer prices but will do so in a few months. So, attributing current economic changes, good or bad, to Trump actions right now is naive.
Trump can effect a change (negative) in the stock market and other more immediate indicators, but the economy is slow to change and reflects historical actions rather than those in the past few months.
You need to do more than post facts, you need to show that these conditions are a result of actions by Trump and name the damn actions.
They were not "failures." They were policies put into place by those who operated under Biden's name. The consequences for this country can never be underestimated.
Name the policies in effect that explain these conditions.
Thank you TiG. So, we both agree to a set of facts which I posted and now we can each speculate on how the US economy, under about 6 months into the Trump Presidency is where it is.
My first thought is that Trump encouraged a lot of investment into the country, while prioritizing making Steel production a critical US industry. IMHO that has been the prime mover for the economy. I realize that most of the money hasn't been spent yet, but the announced plans of many companies has had an effect on many others.
Multiple companies are putting big money into the U.S. economy.
1. Hyundai, represented by José Muñoz, is investing $21 billion, including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana that will create at least 1,500 jobs. Trump described it as "a beauty" and applauded Hyundai for building in America.
2. CMA CGM, led by Rodolphe Saadé, will spend $20 billion on ports, shipping, and logistics infrastructure, including a new air cargo hub in Chicago. This investment is expected to create 10,000 jobs and support the U.S. shipping industry.
3. Toyota, with Ted Ogawa in attendance, is putting $88 million into expanding hybrid vehicle production at its West Virginia factory. Trump noted he’d visited the facility and called it "fantastic."
4. Anduril, led by Brian Schimpf, is investing $1 billion in a new drone and defense technology facility in Ohio. The plant will focus on autonomous weapons systems and add thousands of jobs over time.
5. Amazon, represented by Doug Herrington, is investing $4 billion this year, with more expected, focused on logistics and cloud infrastructure across the U.S.
6. Venture Global, headed by Mike Sabel, is putting $18 billion into liquefied natural gas expansion in Louisiana, supporting U.S. energy independence.
7. Siemens USA, under Barbara Humpton, is investing $285 million to grow advanced manufacturing operations and create nearly 1,000 skilled jobs.
8. Pratt Industries, led by Anthony Pratt, has committed $5 billion to expand its American recycling and packaging facilities, creating thousands of jobs in several states.
9. Chobani, founded by Hamdi Ulukaya, is investing $1.7 billion, including $1.2 billion for a new dairy plant in New York. Trump joked the U.S. might start exporting yogurt thanks to Chobani’s growth.
10. Bel Brands USA, led by Ivan Giraud, is putting $350 million into expanding cheese and snack production. Babybel cheeses sold in the U.S. will continue sourcing American milk and the company will expand U.S. production. Bel's Mini Babybel cheese made in the U.S. sources milk from South Dakota, Iowa and Minnesota. After the investment, Bel will expand annual U.S. production of the product by 10,000 tons.
11. Schneider Electric, represented by Aamir Paul, is investing $700 million into U.S. energy infrastructure. It is the largest investment in the company’s 135-year history.
12. Johnson & Johnson, under CEO Joaquin Duato, will invest $55 billion in new manufacturing and technology upgrades across the country.
13. Eli Lilly, led by David Ricks, is putting $27 billion into expanding domestic pharmaceutical production and new facilities.
14. Novartis, represented by CEO Vas Narasimhan, plans to invest $23 billion in building or expanding 10 drug manufacturing facilities in the U.S.
15. Genentech, part of the Roche Group and led by Ashley Magargee, announced a massive $50 billion commitment to biotech manufacturing and research.
16. AbbVie, with Rob Michael at the helm, is investing $10 billion to build four new pharmaceutical plants across the U.S.
17. Thermo Fisher Scientific, led by Marc Casper, is expanding its operations with a $2 billion investment into medical supply and diagnostics manufacturing.
18. Merck, under Rob Davis, will spend $9 billion to grow its domestic vaccine and drug production capacity.
19. Abbott Laboratories, led by Robert Ford, is investing $500 million to improve facilities in Illinois and Texas, especially for diagnostics and medical devices.
20. IBM, with Arvind Krishna as CEO, announced a $150 billion investment to grow U.S. research, chip development and AI technology.
21. GE Aerospace, led by Larry Culp, is putting $1 billion into factories across 16 states to build jet engines for both commercial and military aircraft. Trump praised the company’s leadership in aerospace innovation.
22. SoftBank, led by Masayoshi Son, is partnering with Oracle and OpenAI on a total $700 billion investment in AI infrastructure in the U.S. This includes the largest private sector project in American history to support the development of advanced computing.
23. Apple, represented by CEO Tim Cook, is investing $500 billion to build factories and expand operations across seven or eight U.S. states. Trump noted this was a major shift for Apple, which previously concentrated production overseas.
Trump touts trillion-dollar surge in U.S. investment — here’s who’s cashing in | Fox Business
Don't play absurd semantics games. And yet again, you exaggerate anything bad about Biden while ignoring the continuous stream of bad from Trump.
Your beliefs are irrelevant.
Steel is a critical US industry. So it is good to strengthen the sector. The effects of Trump's 'emphasis' have yet to be felt. But it would be good if the US steel industry were strengthened (depending on the negative consequences to the consumer).
You must surely know that nations have been investing in the USA before Trump.
And of course, you merely credit Trump with all of this without naming the specific actions that he ostensibly took. Relying instead on Fox News reporting, mostly on what Trump has claimed.
Anything good you credit to Trump. Anything bad you attribute to Biden or ignore.
Conveniently, I can have ChatGPT fact-check the claims from Fox News (a network that started great and has devolved into a Trump network). Trump gets credit for Hyundai (inexplicably) buckling to the pressure of tariffs. Very strange that a corporation would make such a decision when Trump keeps changing his mind on tariffs. Not how most corporations make strategic decisions, so I doubt this reporting.
Regardless, ChatGPT to counter your Fox News report:
No, thank you for confirming my facts. Im fine with the overwhelming true on the Fox Business Report
There is one thing. It is your turn. How do you explain the strong economy?
So you did not even read my post. Not only are your 'facts' not confirmed (except the first one), but the point is that actions by Trump (good or bad) will not be measurable in the economy for months.
It was strong when Trump became PotUS. The key problems he inherited were higher prices (his actions will worsen this) and high interest rates (still high). Trump took actions that freaked out investors but happily, cooler heads prevailed, and the market (while off a bit more than 1,000 points from when he took office) has stabilized (for now ... wait until we see future earnings). Of course one can only speculate where the market might be today if the stubborn fool had not engaged in his brain-dead tariffs and related threats/trolling.
As for the economy, I repeat (since it is not getting through), we will know the effects of Trump on the economy in a few months. We need to work through the panic buying that took place (which was good for suppliers, albeit a false surge) and move into consumer prices that reflect the increased costs due to the tariffs.
You can fantasize that Trump is some kind of stable genius who ultimately will do great things for the economy, but you are not doing yourself or anyone else any good by continuing to support this buffoon.
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Evidently you didn't read mine. Here:
Thank you TiG. So, we both agree to a set of facts which I posted and now we can each speculate on how the US economy, under about 6 months into the Trump Presidency is where it is.
We both agreed to certain facts presented in post # 10.2.28. Then you said: "Name the policies in effect that explain these conditions." At which point both you and I are SPECULATING as to what led to the status quo. I presented my OPINION. I then asked "What is YOUR OPINION?"
You attacked my opinion and came back with:
As for the economy, I repeat (since it is not getting through), we will know the effects of Trump on the economy in a few months. We need to work through the panic buying that took place (which was good for suppliers, albeit a false surge) and move into consumer prices that reflect the increased costs due to the tariffs.
So, you have no idea on how we have an inflation rate of 2.1% and a new forecast of 4.6% growth.
Enjoy your day.
Your 'facts' were mostly bullshit from Fox News who parroted what Trump told them. Stop believing what Trump says. Stop blindly taking Fox News as truth. Amazing how you just ignore rebuttals and pretend they were not made. Pathetic, really, that there is no way to defend Trump without dishonesty. That anyone continues to support him is extremely disappointing.
Now you put out this bullshit. The inflation rate was around 2.3% when Biden left office. There is nothing that Trump has done that would explain any downward movement in inflation. As I noted, his actions will not have an effect (good or bad) for months. Outside of panic buying, stock market turbulence, the economic factors are slow to change.
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WTF?
the one that got elected
Trump never got elected-- that election was stolen!
Nice photoshop.
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And you come to this because I don't follow your idiotic narrative?
Perhaps that's the problem?
(I wonder-- perhaps too many people tend to enjoy following idiotic narratives?).
But if that be the case-- what actions can we take-- in order to stop people from following too many idiotic narratives?
(Or if we can't totally stop this veritale epidemic of "idiotic narrative following"-- perhaps we can at least sifninificantly decrease the frequency of these dastardly acts???)
gee, this kind of puts a kink in those russian bomber border testing flights over alaska, canada, and great britain ...
Rumor has it that there's a lot of kinky stuff going on in some of those flights over Alaska!
sarah palin survived going down in a float plane over alaska ...