Trump says Kennedy Center will close for two years for renovations
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Via: perrie-halpern • 9 months ago • 148 commentsBy: Raquel Coronell Uribe
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Feb. 1, 2026, 7:14 PM EST / Updated Feb. 1, 2026, 9:33 PM ESTBy Raquel Coronell Uribe and Megan ShannonListen to this article with a free account00:0000:00
President Donald Trump announced Sunday that he has determined that the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington should close for about two years.
Trump, who wrote on Truth Social that the decision is "totally subject" to approval by his handpicked board, said that the center will close on July 4 and that "financing is completed, and fully in place." He did not elaborate on where the funding came from. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on questions about the funding.
Trump added that the decision was made based on a review that involved "Contractors, Musical Experts, Art Institutions, and other Advisors and Consultants," who were weighing construction with closure and re-opening or partial construction while entertainment operations continued.
A spokesperson for the Kennedy Center did not immediately respond to a request for comment about Trump's announcement, what the center's board thinks of the issue or what would happen to the center's existing programming.
Trump said that the closure will "produce a much faster and higher quality result," that the Kennedy Center can be "the finest Performing Arts Facility of its kind" and that there will be a "Grand Reopening" after the renovation.
He called the Kennedy Center — where the premiere of first lady Melania Trump's documentary was held lastweek — "tired, broken, and dilapidated," adding that it "has been in bad condition, both financially and structurally for many years."
Trump has taken a special interest in the Kennedy Center since he returned to office last year. He replaced the center's board with a handpicked set of members who named him chair and changed programming at the center, including removing Pride events.
Late last year, the board moved to rename the center to include Trump's name. It was then affixed to the facade — before President John F. Kennedy's name — a day later.
The renaming drew criticism from Kennedy family members and members of Congress. Rep. Joyce Beatty, D-Ohio, who is on the board as an ex officio member, sued the administration for changing the center's name, claiming it was not a lawful move, as the center was established by legislation.
In a statement Sunday, Beatty blasted Trump's announcement to temporarily close the center, saying he "has acted with a total disregard for Congress."
"The Kennedy Center is congressionally funded, and Congress should have been consulted about any decision to shut down its operations or make major renovations, especially for two years," Beatty wrote, and questioned what would happen to employees, artists and others who hold agreements with the facility.
"And let's be clear: remodeling the premises won't restore the Kennedy Center to what it was. But a return to artistic independence will," she added.
Since the renaming, a flurry of artists have canceled their appearances at the center, including the composer of the hit musical "Wicked," Stephen Schwartz, who dropped out from hosting a gala for the Washington National Opera. The opera has since left the center, where it had performed since 1971.
Trump has frequently discussed remodeling the Kennedy Center, arguing that the theater was poorly maintained and in desperate need of repairs, some of which are already underway.
Trump's first visit to the Kennedy Center this term was on March 17, when he participated in a board meeting and toured the facilities. Talking to reporters from the President's Box, he said: "We are going to make a lot of changes, including the seats, the decor, pretty much everything. Needs a lot of work."
In May, during a Kennedy Center Board dinner, he spoke about how he is "fixing everything," including the Kennedy Center.
"I don't know what the hell they were doing, but they spent a lot of money, and it's just not possible that they could have spent it so poorly. But we're going to turn it around. That's what I love doing," Trump said.
After he announced the 2025 Kennedy Center honorees, Trump took another tour of the Kennedy Center. White House aide Margo Martin posted a photo of Trump on the concert hall stage with the caption, "President @realDonaldTrump tours the Kennedy Center to discuss renovations."
During the Kennedy Center Honors in December, Trump said the money raised that night would go toward renovating the venue.
"You know, we raised a lot of money tonight, tremendous, record numbers of dollars, a lot of money," he said.
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Well, I understand ticket sales are down and artists are all canceling performances. Is this his weak way of trying to save face?
BINGO!
funny how not many of the trump friendly artists aren't willing to step up and risk their futures by performing there ...
You think they'd be willing to perform to empty seats?
it wouldn't be that much of a stretch, they're already performing to empty heads ...
True, but it's those empty heads that fork over the money for tickets, and sometimes for ad infinitum as Trump has shown.
trump connected to a grift on his own supporters. shocking. I remember the quick refunds ...
Yet those supporters still vouch for him.
Possibly, but I think it's more likely that it takes awhile to source that much gold coloured paint and plastic ornamentation
lol
Does this mean the renovations and donations Trump bragged about to justify adding his name were really a shoddy failure?
So, which lie are our eyes supposed to believe this time?
That was my first thought.
OK that's hilarious. Well done.
[✘] Is this really a major news story, with all the country faces right now?
Whoever still stops by to read this stuff, make sure you vote so such people will not be in power.
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Evidently.
Perrie posts her seeds independent of what anybody else does, there have been a number of times when she seeded something that another member had already seeded or they seeded something not knowing that she had seeded it aleady.. nothing unusual at all
A better question is why is Trump closing the Kennedy Center?
Deflection.
Do you approve of Trump renaming the center giving himself top billing, ruining attendance, and then engaging in another vanity remodeling project?
The PotUS is not supposed to be the Renovator in Chief.
it isn't trump's name that should be gracing the exterior of the kennedy center ...
I posted this first at midnight. Second, this is not an opinion piece. It is news. If you don't like the news, take it up with the people who make it.
[✘] Second, this is not an opinion piece. It is news.
Renovating a government building hardly qualifies as news.
The Kennedy Center was opened in large part to honor the memory of President Kennedy, not to be a toy for the deranged Donald Trump.
Well of course merely renovating a government building is not big news. But you intentionally misrepresent this by omitting the salient details.
The asshole you voted for and continue to defend decided to rename the Kennedy Center and put himself as top-billing. This, naturally for most, is highly objectionable (it is sickening). So, of course, fewer people will attend this in protest, performers will back out and not sign up in protest, and thus sales for the Kennedy Center will plummet. This will likely continue until Trump is gone and a sensible PotUS removes the name of that abysmal human being and restores the honor strictly to JFK.
Now, remember the excuse Trump made for why he 'was honored' with the name change. It was because he " saved " the Center ... because it was in terrible shape. Remember this?:
He claimed the building is now solid and strong. So fast forward a few months and it now needs a $200 million renovation.
It really is incredible watching Trump supporters continue to defend this buffoon after freaking out on anything (good or bad) that a D PotUS did.
it's important to note that trump also claimed the east wing of the white house wouldn't be affected by his pedophile palace addition ...
[✘] If you win the midterms you can impeach him again and bring his agenda to a stop. There is no need for anyone to feel sick.
It is not a government building. It is a center for the performing arts. Renovating a major building is news. When Lincoln Center was renovated, it made the news.
It is news. Trump is an abysmal human being who damages this nation on a weekly basis so the news is typically bad.
Deal with this reality. The current PotUS is a psychopath. You should consider maybe NOT trying to defend him and instead assist in removing him from office.
The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts is a unique institution that serves as both a national cultural hub and a living memorial. Because of this dual role, its leadership and structure involve a combination of federal oversight and private sector participation. While the center is part of the Smithsonian Institution, it is managed by a specific Board of Trustees that oversees its daily work, artistic mission, and financial sustainability.
Who Owns the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts? - LegalClarity
Renovating a major building is news.
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He won the election despite the Herculean effort by the left to stop him. Maybe you should consider ending the resistance and respecting the will of the people.
That comment is a prime example of paranoid delusion.
Is that what you were saying about Trump in 2020? NO.
And what do you call lawfare?
The unprecedented attacks on American democracy being carried out by the Trumpist regime's Department of Justice.
Imagine arguing the left didn’t try to stop trump….
They seem to believe that the end justifies the means.
You mean upholding the law that the left broke?
Imagine being delusional enough to claim the elections are all rigged and millions of "illegal aliens" vote, or that a vote for Trump was a vote for "common sense".
Prove it, and prove it without resorting to delusional fantasies.
Here is the law the left broke:
How Biden’s Open Border Policies Sparked the Greatest Immigration Crisis in U.S. History – And Why America Is Paying the Price
And here is the law Trump is trying to uphold:
Trump Administration delivers 7 straight months of zero releases at the border | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Any more questions?
The Trump second term agenda
Recognize that the guy you helped elect is a psychopath. Pay objective attention to what this narcissistic con-man is doing to our nation.
How on Earth can you sit back and believe that Trump is positive for the USA?
Sure. Do you actually not realize that your link doesn't refer to any law(s) allegedly broken?
The federal cases against Trump were normal justice in action. You deem them lawfare from an extremely biased (and IMO distorted) perspective. Trump did in fact attempt to steal the 2020 election with fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. And he did indeed obstruct the return of classified documents.
Put yourself into the mind of an extremist and then you will know
Your border argument is tired and lame. You ignore all the damage Trump has done and continues to do and just run back to Biden's lax border management.
The damage Trump did as soon as he took office with his tariff and trolling idiocy dwarfed the damage of Biden's lax borders management.
And that was just the beginning.
I do not believe I can do that. Ignoring reality is not easy for me.
Are the people who didn't vote for him "people" or something inferior? I didn't vote for him. Are you implying that I'm inferior therefore I don't deserve to voice my opinion?
Good point.
And most of the electorate did not vote for Trump. Only ⅓ of the electorate voted for him.
And if we look at only those who voted, the majority did NOT vote for Trump.
Finally, look at the polls to see what the people want at the moment. Trump is not doing what the people want.
A couple more.
1. Do you claim "the left" broke any law(s) regarding the 2024 election, and if so, what evidence do you have to support your claim?
2. Do you believe that Haitian immigrants in the U.S. eat people's pets?
Need to work on your math -
58% is quite a bit more than 1/3 - ya think?
Now you know they will come back to lambast you for not including those who didn't vote.
I feel the same way about what style of dress some rich person's wife wore to her wedding yet someone once posted a fashion/celebrity news article about that.
1st, at the right edge of the material you see 48.4 for Harris and 49.8 for Trump. Those numbers are their percentages of the vote that turned out.
The 1/3 estimate would be for all registered voters .
The 58% is Trumps electoral vote.
Vic, it does not say that it's a government building anywhere in the description you showed. It is actually funded by both public and private money, more like PBS.
And I removed the nasty meta comment. I never take down doubles of my articles.
You need to work on your logic, and it would seem, you need to learn more about the electoral college.
The electoral college is not a count of ordinary voters. We are talking about ordinary citizens voting.
49.81% is not a majority of those ordinary voters.
Read my post. It is correct. If you disagree, then at least properly represent what we are talking about.
Good grief, Snuffy, you too? I would have bet $$$ that you understood that the electoral college is not a count of how many of the electorate voted for Trump.
Slow down that hair-trigger and ensure you know what you are arguing about.
Thats the part that pisses Trump off.
No his math isn't perfect but we measure voters, not percentages. 77 million voters out of 241 is 31.9%
The third leg of the stool is the 89 million eligible voter who did not vote.
89 is 36% of 241 million.
Thanks for participating.
Why would you say my math was imperfect?
"And most of the electorate did not vote for Trump. Only ⅓ of the electorate voted for him."
Not arguing with you - just pointed out that YOU addressed the "electorate vote" and your comments/figures were/are incorrect - based on your comments.
Most of the electorate DID vote for Trump which is how he won the election with 312 electorate votes versus Harris's 226 electorate votes.
The CATO institute is notoriously libertarian and right leaning.
They seem to think Biden was the victim, not the cause., hmmm?
Biden Didn’t Cause the Border Crisis, Part 1: Summary | Cato at Liberty Blog
Trump can exercise whatever legal power he wants at the border.
How many over stayed visa people has he caught?
So far including his first term trump only deported 540,000 people.
He wanted to mimic Obama and only deport criminals but now categories don't matter.
The result is comparisons to the Gestapo or the KGB. It's unavoidable.
Who deported more migrants? Obama or Trump? We checked the numbers - Factchequeado
Not part of the discussion. My comment addressed the erroneous part of his discussion dealing with the electoral votes.
Do I get one of the "extra" trophies for being accurate and not for just participating?
Probably not which wouldn't surprise me.
I understand why you think you are correct but you are fixated on something else entirely.
If the country boycotted 2028 and only 10% of the current eligible voters participated and someone won 14 million to 10 million
the Electoral College exercise would be the same with the same amount of electoral college votes.
Which is why there is always a call to dismiss this fail safe the the FF developed to protect themselves from populism.
Well, populism won eventually any way, making the Electoral college just rote, an antiquated ritual we feel obligated to play out.
The electorate is not the electoral college.
The electorate = all citizens who have the right to vote.
My numbers and logic were and remain correct.
And you were entirely wrong. There is no erroneous part in my comment.
Could we agree that it is a public building?
I never take down doubles of my articles.[✘]
Very good sir!
As long as you are here, I have another question a bit off topic involving Billie Eilish. We don't have to discuss it here.
In other words, you are trying to say he didn't win by much and he doesn't have a mandate.
No, you are wrong.
Biden was a proxy for the left. I doubt he even knew what was being done under his name.
Trump can exercise whatever legal power he wants at the border.
And he did.
How many over stayed visa people has he caught?
Oh, there's another leftist talking point.
So far including his first term trump only deported 540,000 people.
And how many did he convince to self-deport?
New Milestone: Over 2 Million Illegal Aliens Out of the United States in Less Than 250 Days | Homeland Security
He wanted to mimic Obama and only deport criminals but now categories don't matter.
Nope. He said he would deport criminals first. We want them all out.
The result is comparisons to the Gestapo or the KGB. It's unavoidable.
No, that is called inciting violence. BTW I thought Mao's Red Gurad or Stalin's police were far worse. How come the democrats never reference them?
The cast majority of Obama deportees were those that were stopped at the border and turned back. Obama admin counted them as being deported
‘How come the democrats never reference them?’
Seems like some people’s gestapo is better than other gestapo.
Just depends on your preference.
I love people that know how to read statistics
but he's not doing that, is he? I'm talking hardcore criminals like murders and rapists not illegal aliens who just wish to better their lives and take care of their families.
That is not what I was saying, but I would say that.
What I was saying was that Trump did not get a majority of those who voted. Also, only ⅓ of the electorate voted for him. (I trust you understand the meaning of the word 'electorate'.) Further, public opinion reflects what people think of what he is doing, and it certainly does not suggest we approve.
On this mandate nonsense:
Trump won by a slim margin. I do not consider that a mandate; typically, a mandate is based on a decisive win. Reagan, for example, could have legitimately claimed a mandate. Trump's claims of a 'landslide' and 'mandate' always strike me as ridiculous. Even more ridiculous than Bush 43 or Obama or Biden claiming a 'mandate'.
But, of course, Trump claims a mandate so you claim mandate.
winning by 1.4% isn't a mandate ...
Glad you've got a sense of humor to laugh off your error and place the blame on others. As we have seen, the error I brought up are totally yours.
Thanks.
Thanks SP - your response makes much more sense.
You seem to be confusing the electorate and the electoral vote.
Absolutely not true. "Most" means at minimum more than half. Trump got 49.8 % of the cast votes, which not only means he didn't get more than half, it also means that slightly more than half voted for someone other than Trump.
I'm sorry, these truths are not debatable.
He won the electoral vote by a comfortable margin, but even that was not at a level that signals "landslide".
The term is electoral votes.
Your comment is pure trolling.
You did not understand that the electorate is the people in society who can vote, and incorrectly thought it meant the electoral college.
Now you post a childish game and pretend that I was the one who made the mistake.
He didn't win by much and he doesn't have a mandate and we are right
No he does not have a mandate not at 49.8% of the popular vote. I fear that some here got very bad grades in math in school.
Trump and his cult think they can just say something and then it is true.
‘not illegal aliens who just wish to better their lives and take care of their families.’
How many of these illegals that want to ‘better their lives’ have you taken into your home, paid for food, clothing, employed them and taken care of their health needs.
if the answer is none, why to you expect hard working Americans to do that?
Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election. He's still telling the "big lie" about the election being "stolen."
I fact checked the "big lie" again on Google:
Biden defeated Trump, winning 306 Electoral College votes and 51.3% of the popular vote to Trump's 232 electoral votes and 46.8% of the popular vote.
Here are the raw vote totals:
Biden 81,268,773 (51.31%) Trump 74,216,728 (46.86%)
Biden won by 7 million votes.
That's a fucking mandate, Donald! Suck on it!!
So when they raise your taxes to make up for all the taxes not being paid by the "no longer living here" people,
you won't complain about being on a fixed income?
Yes, ICE incites violence and the comparisons to the Red Guard is appropriate and Stalins NKVD were simply renamed the KGB in 1954.
Out of curiosity, have you seen any projections on that? Do we have any realistic estimates of the net plus or minus after we subtract social services or other costs?
Who do you think is paying ICE employees $177K a year plus bonuses and benefits?
Who do you think outfits all of these ICE employees in military clothing, protective gear and weapons?
Who do you think rented/bought all of that Detention Center space?
Who do you think is paying to provide food, water and power to all these supposed 700,000 detainees?
I believe Bob Nelson had or has an article on that about an economists estimate
otherwise this claims they have a positive impact of $1.7 Trillion
but honestly who believes our own government? /S
The Economic Case for Immigration: What the Data Shows About America's Workforce | GovFacts
Immigration is good for the U.S. economy, but reforms are needed to maximize gains | Economic Policy Institute
OK, so one of the problems in this national discussion is that we have some folks who will try to substitute "immigration" for "illegal immigration" and hope the rest of us don't notice what they're doing. Those things are not the same.
The GovFacts report talks about immigrants accounting for $1.7 trillion worth of GDP. So they're 18% of the workforce and contribute roughly 5% of GDP. That seems perfectly reasonable for people just getting started in their first generation in a new country.
But generally speaking, illegal immigrants are the hot topic. About 3% of immigrants are illegal (that we know about), which is less than 1% of the people living in the US.
So we're talking about a pretty sizeable investment in enforcement, detention, court costs, etc, which is going to produce some level of reduction in tax revenue (income, sales, property, etc), but is also going to produce some savings in service costs (school costs, medical costs, etc).
I'm not sure it's possible to get a reasonable assessment on that specifically, in large part because you're dealing with a population that is pretty good at being hard to find, but I'm wondering if anybody has tried looking specifically at the impact of illegals and their deportation.
Denver has spent 356 million on illegal immigrants since the end of 2022.
If illegal immigrants are so good for the community why has denver had to cut services to citizens and has a projected budget shortfall for 2026 of 200 million?
denver’s a lightweight compared to new york city and chicago. Those two cities have each spent billions of dollars on illegal immigrants the last few years.
True, even more so when they arrest them in the courthouse they were ordered to appear at for immigration reasons.
ICE trashes the credibility of all of the agencies that have been established to help these people get legal and blend in.
Good, hardworking, patriotic Americans are perfectly fine with taxpayer money paying for these things.
If leftists did not allow millions of illegals to simply walk across the border and released unvetted into the country, we would not need as many ICE, equipment, salaries, etc......but because of democrat actions, here we are.
That sounds terrible. But I hesitate to take some of these suicidal empathy places as reliable examples of what we should expect to see nationwide.
If you're providing them free housing, then yeah, they're gonna cost a fortune. If you're just letting them work that out for themselves, it's not nearly the burden.
That does seem short sighted.
Who am I kidding, our whole immigration strategy is painfully short sighted.
It makes about as much sense as deporting a murderer. No... we lock up murderers. We deport people who are free to leave.
It does seem like we haven't thought this through and we can't get out of our own way.
I think a perfect example of failed migration is that approximately 80 percent of Somalis in Minnesota that have been in the US more than 10 years are on some sort of government assistance.
Probably the same in other states.
This and your previous complaint about Taxpayers covering the cost don't jive.
You bitch about the possibility of spending a few million because of decades old policies and then brag about the fact that you/we should be glad to pay ten times as much to expel people with unpaid traffic tickets or a bounced check.
You know Chief, if that's all you got, move along, tired of hearing it. This started when Texas became sovereign; it wasn't fixed when Texas became a state and it wasn't fixed when Texas was readmitted to the Union and it's been a wide open border ever since. Private property right up to the rivers edge on our side of the border. Lots of Gadson flags down there. Lot's of people fighting decades to keep walls and such off of their grazing land and access to the river for their livestock.
A hundred years worth of politicians, Republicans, Democrats, conservatives and liberals of both parties are dead and buried without fixing it because they knew it was political suicide.
Maybe less thinking and more researching is in order, There are reportedly 107,000 Somalians in MN. 80,000 to 84,000 in the Twin Cities. 58% were born here. 87% of the rest are naturalized. US CITIZENS, it should not matter what their origins are.
Government assistance statistics include actual Medicare recipients and government pensioners.
Other benefits that US citizens are entitled to like SNAP, WIC, etc., are theirs to take legally and supposedly without prejudice.
Probably not because there are only 260,000 people who immigrated or identify as Somalians in the whole of the country.
Think about what that means. Statistically 84% of Somalians is insignificant by any standard, especially if they are utilizing the same benefits granted to all other US citizens.
Somali Immigrant Statistics in US 2025 | Key Facts - The World Data
5 things to know about the Somali community in Minnesota after Trump's attacks | PBS News
Stats for somali assimilation in US
if wingnuts were serious about keeping out undocumented workers, they'd go after those that hire them. but oh no, those employers are most likely among the party's regular benefactors ...
That would double the cost of a lot of ugly jobs like a good old Texas slab leak.
that actually happened to a house I was living in on the coast. fucking goober building codes ...
How many sanctuary states have them on assistance? How many overwhelmed emergency rooms are providing them basic health coverage?
I want immigration law enforced.
Yes, ICE incites violence and the comparisons to the Red Guard is appropriate and Stalins NKVD were simply renamed the KGB in 1954.
You have it backwards. Death threats against ICE have increased by 8,000 % in the last year, and physical assaults on agents increased by 1,300%. The left wants to defy the law by violence and intimidation.
I don't. They come here ready to work and are taking care of themselves. And don't continue to argue with me about it. I will just ignore everything you post
good work, SP!
Yeah...like Tyson. Big employer in Arkansas....to immigrants legal and illegal. But ICE aren't raiding the processing plants
Thanks John.
Could be short or could be lengthy - the Tongva are a state recognized tribe, not Federal. State's rules/regs can either foster or fail this story. Right now, the story is supposedly humorous - but how far could it be pushed - with/without the state's support
This may be disturbing news to you but these people don't like paperwork or checking accounts. They live in an all-cash network to avoid the tax collector, the police and especially ICE.
Being on "assistance" is the dumbest thing they could do.
I don't know how many are considered to be overwhelmed as a permanent condition, but I do know that Ronald Reagan passed the law that says no person in this country can be turned away from an ER for lack of insurance or the ability to pay.
Whoopededo, I want every American citizen to be treated equally regardless of their baggage. Which do you see happening first?
Doubtful.
Nonsense you cannot prove. Who gathers those statistics, ICE? Laughable.
Well I guess that's an opinion. My opinion is that it's all fantasy, every sweeping generalization usually is.
As ICE pulls out of MN the statistics are 4,000 arrests by 5,000 ICE employees, the majority with no criminal records including the two US citizens killed.
That's dismal.
We have a relative who recently retired from HSI; served 6 different Presidents with the Secret Service. He's appalled by what has happened to DHS. These people are making $177K a year to be armed hooligans.
The real police who face much bigger threats every day make half of that in major cities; a third of that in rural areas where they have to buy their own uniforms and handguns.
Some on the right seem to prefer governance by fiat and muscle.
God save this country, please.
Your posts are contradictory to each other.
In 3.5.64, you state, in part.."all the taxes not being paid ", but then in 3.5.86, you state "They live in an all-cash network to avoid the tax collector, "
So which is it? Do illegals pay taxes (maybe sales tax depending on where they live", or don't they?
We have been told for years that most illegals here are law abiding, taxpaying people only trying to do better in their lives.
Is that REALLY true?
Kind of curious where you post, with this word in it, calling the Biden admin stating the border is closed and secure ?
Cities very publicly had to pare back services and raise taxes to meet the cost of caring for migrants during the Biden sponsored invasion. It was front page news and discussed here frequently.
Despite the real world staring them in the face, they'll make bizarre claims about much of a benefit they are to the bottom line because some activist group with an agenda tells them it's true.
Can you buy groceries or gasoline without paying tax?
If they are paying rent, does the home owner not pay real estate taxes?
Like the headless ICE employee?
Exactly. Great point. Believing that illegal migrants don't cost money is exactly like believing a "photo" of a headless ICE is real despite fact checkers pointing out it's fake and the Senator who used it apologizing for doing so.
I'm glad you get it.
No and I pointed that out under sales tax in my comment.
As far as real estate taxes, that might be something the the homeowner tacks onto rent, however, if these people are able to rent a house, buy groceries and gas, they more than likely are working.....under the table, not paying income taxes. That contradicts your 3.5.54
I am sorry if you do not comprehend it.
I cannot help you.
too bad the producers didn't use some of jeff epstein's newly released videos of melania in action at his mansion and on his jet to punch up her documentary. the film's run would've probably been extended indefinitely at the center and would have paid for the steam cleaning and sterilization required after every showing ...
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Yeah, maybe work on an actual argument based on objective facts and sound reasoning instead of mere claims like 'lawfare' and 'illegals voting'.
Think about what your position would be if Trump were doing the same things but as a D. What would you be arguing? Would you approve? Would you defend?
Most of us could predict what you would be arguing. The question, though, is if you can objectively do this exercise.
Lawfare is real and in many democrat precincts there simply is nobody verifying the status of voters. Even the Federal ballot asks citizenship status without any provision for verification.
CNN's Enten: 83% Favor Voter ID, It's Not Controversial | Video | RealClearPolitics
Tell us why democrats are against voter ID?
Tell us why democrats opened the border?
Tell us why democrats are violently opposing the removal of illegal migrants?
Tell us why Harry Reid made it easier to get controversial judicial nominees confirmed?
What we are facing in this country is exactly what the people of Spain faced in the 1930s. There was a revolutionary party there as well. They called themselves "Republicans," but they were a mix of anarchists, Socialists and Communists.
Which one was, a literary hero of yours, named Hemmingway?
Yes, Trump is doing a fine job of illustrating that. Do you even recognize what this vindictive asshole is doing??
This was my question:
Can you not bring yourself to answer it honestly?
It does not appear that they are. They seem to be against overly burdensome voter ID, not a well-run national voter ID.
I personally think it is important that we have a system that ensures only legitimate voters vote. Seems like basic common sense. But not a system that would make it difficult, for example, for seniors, poor, etc. to vote.
First, they did not literally open the border. That is emotional nonsense. But why did Biden not focus more on the border is a good question. It was clearly a mistake.
Probably because the abrupt removal of domiciled illegals, gainfully employed, raising families (often with children who are citizens), paying taxes, abiding by our laws (except for the obvious) is cruel and complicated. That is how I see it. Not sure how the Ds see it, but I suspect it is similar. I am absolutely for border security to prevent new illegals. I am for the abrupt deportation of murderers/rapists/drug dealers/... I am also in favor of deporting recent illegals (e.g. less than 1 year). But domiciled human beings is a very different problem and needs a very different solution. We (USA, both parties too) fucked up in the past, but the solution is not just to rip these lives apart. At least for those who have some level of empathy.
Partisan politics. Is this not obvious? Are you actually trying to suggest that only Ds engage in partisan politics???
Then we can't prosecute them and incarcerate them.
The man pled guilty and was flown out of the country by Trump's ICE.
Due process was implied. We can incarcerate them here too. Getting them off the streets is the key.
The Laken Riley Act, signed last year, mandates DHS to detain any undocumented immigrant charged with certain crimes, including shoplifting... This takes due process away from local prosecutors.
"Tell us why Harry Reid made it easier to get controversial judicial nominees confirmed?"
Okay, if you tell me why Moscow Mitch refused to allow the Senate to vote on confirming Merrick Garland (Obama nominee).
At your service!
How about a nationwide system that simply checks on who has a legal right to vote?
First, they did not literally open the border.
Yes, they did and now they want to shut down, via legislation on one and mov violence on the other, the meaningful immigration enforcement that voters demanded.
Probably because the abrupt removal of domiciled illegals, gainfully employed, raising families (often with children who are citizens), paying taxes, abiding by our laws (except for the obvious) is cruel and complicated. That is how I see it.
Then you are not living in reality. The democrat party is now dominated by the far left and the radical ideas of the far left have many times over been rejected by the American people. That is why Donald Trump is President. So, to win national elections the left needs voters to replace American voters and therefore they depend on the migrants to repay the democrats with their votes either legally or illegally. Do you really think a state like California doesn't have migrants voting?
I am absolutely for border security to prevent new illegals. I am for the abrupt deportation of murderers/rapists/drug dealers/... I am also in favor of deporting recent illegals (e.g. less than 1 year).
Them you must share my concerns about democrats making all of that impossible. Have you seen the democrat demands which they were willing to shut down the government over? They wanted to all but defund ICE. They wanted to make it easy to dox ICE agents. They wanted ICE agents to go to already overwhelmed Article III judges for warrants rather than immigration judges. And of course, you have democrat officials like Governor Walz and Mayor Frey inciting mob violence and not cooperating with ICE and having local police stand down. Democrats in Congress want to give state and local officials, like Walz and Frey the ability to effectively veto ICE enforcement by requiring local approval of ICE actions or permit state courts to issue civil and criminal enforcement actions against these federal agents.
Partisan politics. Is this not obvious? Are you actually trying to suggest that only Ds engage in partisan politics???
The correct answer is that Obama's nominees were radical activists who would never have received a bipartisan vote.
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that's when I stop reading. Your credibility is shot
Yes, in principle. I think it is the details that have caused problems, not the idea of ensuring only citizens can vote.
It is a ridiculous fantasy to believe that the Ds literally opened the border. Unlawful entry has always been illegal and every administration has enforced the border. The difference is the staff levels, detention policy, asylum, etc. Get serious with your terminology. It is not all or none (open or closed). In reality our border always has weak points, we always have illegals crossing, so we are always 'open' to some degree.
Trump has a better border policy than Biden. So that is one of very few things that he has done right. Attempt to now recognize the mountains of things he has done wrong.
(They are the Democratic party; at least get that right.) And you claim I am the one not living in reality. You have a truly bizarre boogeyman view of the Ds and an idealized view of the Rs. Your posts connote an alternate reality; a fantasy.
Not even close. Given the backlash in 2024, I would expect the Ds to pay proper attention to the border. Especially since there is no advantage to the party to have illegals here and there is arguably a negative given many of this community, when legal, are not solid D voters.
ICE is out of control. It was more than doubled in size and has more money available to it per year than the FBI. I agree with adding more border patrol agents, and providing funding to shore up the border with technology and selective hardened barriers. But Trump and his BBB has gone overboard and they have directed their efforts more on trying to remove illegals rather than focus on securing the border.
Now, with Trump, we have masked, armed, poorly trained, poorly vetted ICE agents en masse on the streets in communities raising the temperature of the communities with the obvious results. I say focus on the border, and focus on the murderers/rapists/drug-dealers/... and NOT on domiciled illegals raising families, working, paying taxes, etc.
Get a grip, Vic. Your posts always seem to reflect a bizarre alternate reality where the Ds are extreme radical nutcases and the Rs are idealized heroes returning us to a 'Leave it to Beaver' fantasy world.
Then you are not bothering to read the thread: TiG@5.1.4
maga mental acuity and reading comprehension have never been required in their hilariously incompetent attempts to own the libs ...
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Thank you, that saved me from replying.
Or echoing my inner TiG and saying "get a grip, Vic",
but the day is young...
never had any here ...
it does seem better when most of maga are absent, like it was last week ...
please let us know if some more permanent suggestions are needed for that to do list ...
Absolutely, what's needed are more stories defaming minorities ... alas even the NYP is turning against America's Orban.
Did they forget to pay their tribute?
It must be freeing to be able to genuinely not care what people here and throughout the world think of you, or how obvious your lies are, or how unsavory your acquaintances are to decent people, or feel like “locker room talk” is bragging about grabbing women by their vagina, etc. etc.. And the biggest supporters of this loathsome creep are overtly Christian. It is such a human disaster how our country is degrading under this inept criminal. In a couple years we may not even be here anymore.
A friend recently recommended the best way to take care of Trump. Just tell him Obama could hold his breath under water for 10 minutes.
Trump would lie and claim he just held his breath for 11 minutes.
Same with winning Golf championships. It is much easier to lie than to actually perform in reality.
You're right.
I love that. But TiG is right. Minutes and seconds are interchangeable when it’s convenient for humanity’s biggest liar.
It will be a pile of rubble by March
Trump plan to "save" the Trump Kennedy Center was to show the MAGA hit film Melania at the center. The MAGA cult filled the Center to capacity (SRO). The adoring crowd cheered throughout the film. Unfortunately, after the screening, a sickening stench lingered. It will probably take two years of constant fumigation to rid the Center of the MAGA stench.
The good news is that the latest addition to the enormous MAGA swag collection, the Melampia, sold out after the screening. Thousands of dim bulbs were also sold.