US attacks Iranian military, missile sites in Operation Epic Fury
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President Donald Trump confirmed Saturday that the U.S. is carrying out "major combat operations in Iran." In a video posted to Truth Social, Trump said the objective is to defend Americans by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime, describing it as "a vicious group of very hard, terrible people."
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In his message, Trump urged the Iranian regime to "lay down" its weapons or "face certain death." Calling it their "only chance for generations," Trump urged the people of Iran to "take over your government" after the operation.
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The United States military attack against the Iran is named "Operation Epic Fury." Israel , which coordinated the daytime morning blitz with the U.S., announced the Jewish State's mission as “Operation Roaring Lion."
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The joint military operation is expected to carry on for days. Officials tell Fox News that Israel is targeting Iranian leadership, while the U.S. is targeting military targets and ballistic missile sites that pose an "imminent threat."
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Trump carries a big stick!
They didn't listen.
hopefully, iran's republican guard will offer to award trump the iranian gold medal of peace next weekend in downtown tehran for liberating the country of religious tyranny ...
... and then a big victory parade thru tehran in a convertible.
Yes, yes, we all know how rightwing conservatives like Trump are desperately trying to compensate for their 'shortcomings'.
throw a few billion dollars at the trump family's latest scam along with a free 747 and poof, the american taxpayers will foot the bill to take out your regional enemies ...
more like operation epstein fury ...
Can you tell us why you never posted your poutrage demanding the Biden regime release the Epstein files, or for that matter, any leftist did not?
Once again, if there was something negative about Trump in those files, more than one leftist loser in the Biden regime would have leaked them, but they didn't.
Wonder why that was? s/
Can you show us where you or anyone, left or right, pursued this during the first 4 years of Trump, let alone Biden?
Not I, we?
Now, 20 years after Epstein's slap on the wrist "work release" sentence and 7 years after his death in jail under strange circumstances, in spite of Trump's verbal promises and a law he himself signed, we have missing pages and millions of "redacted for national security" pages and some say 3 million withheld.
Biden had nothing to do with this; at most maybe he chose not to besmirch the country with this Sodom and Gomorrah BS .
Trump brought this on himself, decades ago.
Never said he did. The problem most on the left has is they were completely silent on the release of the files during the Biden years, but all of a sudden, on Jan 20 of last year, the release became a main priority of democrats, and their lemmings followed along like good little...well....lemmings.
The question I posed was why did the poster never demand the release during the Biden years.
The rest of your post had nothing to do what what I asked.
Nothing more than the normal left deflection of.....but Truuuuuuump.
You just learned about Epstein and his crimes in January of this year?
iden had nothing to do with this; at most maybe he chose not to besmirch the country with this Sodom and Gomorrah BS .
If his DOJ had knowledge of crimes and hid them (which anyone who believes the Epstein files implicate Trump implicitly believe) than of course he does. His DOJ covered up a child trafficking ring (again, if you believe the accusations)
And the question that illustrated how stupid your question was is this:
If Trump engaged in wrongdoing (likely) then that should not be covered up. If not (unlikely) then there is no reason for Trump (who is in complete control over this) to not release the files. Indeed, if he is free and clear the clear attempts to cover this up make him look worse.
Why did Biden's DOJ cover it up?
What part of this statement confused you?
I see no evidence that they did. Looks like you have a little conspiracy theory going on in your mind.
It did take the attention off Hillary and Bill. So I can see why you're grateful.
You just claimed it’s likely trump engaged in wrongdoing. Did you forget?
if he did engage in wrongdoing , why wasn’t he charged by the Biden admin or the Obama admin?
Looks like you have a little conspiracy theory going on in your mind.
no, pay attention. it’s the opposite. you obviously do and I’m asking you to explain why you believe trump engaged in wrongdoing but wasn’t charged for it by the Biden admin.
Now you are arguing against yourself. Thanks for doing my work for you.
You are getting closer to figuring this out. The first step is recognizing that that garland did in fact overturn every stone to get trump. You appear to get that.
now explain why he did not charge him relating to epstein despite all of this evidence you believe the garland DOJ possessed and the trump admin is hiding.
Correct. I also stated that I see no evidence of a coverup. You seem confused.
Yes, very confused. I believe Trump took advantage of girls/women via Epstein since that is highly believable given Trump's character, attitude towards women, and the circumstances. Why he was not charged by the Biden administration is not something I can explain other than they did not seem to be focused on Epstein as a priority.
In general, I have no special knowledge of how Garland chose to operate. For example, I still am mystified as to why he dragged his feet so long on the Trump indictments (other than the fact that Garland was timid in terms of ruffling political feathers).
Talk about confused.. You believe Trump Trump took advantage of girls/women via Epstein, Biden's DOJ knew it and did nothing about it and yet claim there's no evidence of a coverup. How many other sex predators do you believe the Biden DOJ refused to prosecute, despite having evidence of their guilt?
Why he was not charged by the Biden administration is not something I can explain other than they did not seem to be focused on Epstein as a priority.
Trump was their priority. And you believe they had evidence of his criminal activity and ignored it. That's a conspiracy theory that makes no sense. A criminal connection to Epstein was a golden ticket for the Biden DO , that they would have ignored it in favor of inventing novel theories that made them look like hypocrites would be the most spectacularly idiotiotic decision possible.
Indeed, I believe Trump likely did take advantage of girls/women via Epstein.
I do not know what Biden's DoJ knew and neither do you.
And yes, there is no evidence of a coverup that I have seen. You have not provided any evidence so why are you so confident?
Back that up with evidence.
No, pay attention, I believe Garland dragged his feet. Clearly when Smith got involved, they clarified the evidence and then pursued it. Why do you pretend otherwise when we all know what is true.
You proposed a scenario that I did not offer and then you call it a conspiracy theory. You have no argument so you invent and argue a strawman (yet again). Pathetic.
Not every administration operates like Trump's. As noted, they did not even pursue the obvious indictments against Trump for his 2020 election wrongdoing for almost two years. So the idea that they did not choose to open up the Epstein case is not surprising since that logically would be a lower priority and more politically messy (something Garland avoided).
You really are doing cartwheels here, Sean. Get a grip.
YOu literally are claiming the DOJ has evidence of Trump's crimes. Get your story straight.
You have not provided any evidence so why are you so confident?
Because I'm not trying to prove a conspiracy that involves the FBI and DOJ over multiple administrations led by both parties. The amount of people involved would be staggering. I believe the evidence released by the FBI.
Why do you pretend otherwise when we all know what is true.
The FBI and DOJ under Biden spent years investigating Trump and indicted him under multiple theories. That is indisputably true. Your crackpot theory is that the very same FBI and DOJ so desperate to indict Trump ignored evidence of Trump committing crimes against minors. That is not rational.
You have no argument so you invent and argue a strawman (yet again). Pathetic.
Completely Orwellian demonstrating a complete lack of respect for reality.
So the idea that they did not choose to open up the Epstein case is not surprising since that logically would be a lower priority and more politically messy
Charging Trump for the no doubt, no brainer crime of assaulting minors would "be politically messy" but inventing novel theories to charge him with political crimes isn't??
That is laughably absurd. Your commitment to the conspiracy is farcical. I thought I was critical of the Biden DOJ, at least I never accused them of ignoring the sexual assault of kids. What an incredibly damning indictment of Biden's DOJ.
More faux obtuseness from you. The DoJ has evidence supporting the crimes for which Trump was indicted. I do not know (and neither do you) if they knowingly had evidence of crimes committed by Trump during the Epstein era.
At least attempt to be honest.
Neither am I, that is your strawman.
Trump's attempt to steal the election and obstruct the return of classified documents are real crimes which required no 'novel theories'. Again, you stoop to trying to defend Trump. Why?
Neither did I. You just keep making shit up. It is pathetic.
You keep saying you believe they did and then denying it when the implication of how ridiculous that belief is becomes clear.
Neither am I, that is your strawman.
Believing the FBI and DOJ under Obama, Trump and Biden had evidence of Trump committing crimes with underage women and did nothing about is the textbook definition a conspiracy. If you claim "you aren't trying ot prove a conspiracy" than it must be because you prefer to offer your evidence free accusations of hidden crimes without even bothering to concoct a rational theory of why they were never prosecuted. I guess I was giving you too much credit. You just want to spout conspiracies without even the pretense of a theory.
classified documents are real crimes which required no 'novel theories'
Sure they did. Rationalizing the prosecution of Trump while letting Hillary and Biden walk for mishandling documents required quite a bit of creative finesse work. Charing Trump with abusing a minor would not. Why would they refuse the easy, most straightforward prosecution in favor of a political one?
Neither did I.
Do you not understand what you are doing? You literally claim to believe the Biden DOJ (not to mention most likely the Obama DOJ considering they first interviewed the "star" Epstein witness in 2010) had evidence of Trump committing crimes with minors and didn't prosecute him. That would be absolutely unforgivable.
At what point in time are you going to stop making shit up?
I have never claimed they knew they had evidence of that. All you have is strawman arguments. Pathetic, Sean.
Another stupid claim. There is no comparison between Trump and Biden regarding classified documents. While both possessed them, Biden cooperated in their safe return while Trump obstructed. The crime was the obstruction. Your argument is stupid.
No, you keep making-up claims for me. You are flat-out lying. Again, pathetic.
I provided the citation, the reading is up to you but I knew you wouldn't read past anything that triggered a "gotcha response" .
That's his MO. Put words in someone else's mouth or statements to start a fight.
Seems that way.
Oh, another opinion piece!
Try this one:
Dev posted a video of Trump himself claiming Obama would start a war for political reasons.
Yet now we have Trump who ran on no wars, starting a war. And likely for political reasons.
there's another one of trump contradicting himself about iran during his campaign in october of 2020 ...
I guess he needed to re-annihilate the nuclear program that he already utterly destroyed. I wonder what new fictions will come out this massively expensive operation.
I guess the left will stand with Iran vs Trump.
Standing with Iran would be sending them AID, not sending them bombs. I realize that this is inconceivable to you, but reasonable Americans don’t want either of those opinions. This POTUS will lead the country into world war.
No, standing with them is taking their side against Trump which you have done.
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Quotes? Otherwise, this is a lie.
We are Americans, not Trumpians.
Iran was not a threat to Trump. He is just starting a war for no reason. Why would anyone support that?
he's doing it to take the spotlight off his activities with epstein, the increasing number of his cabinet scandals, clinch the midterms for republicans, and to bring the cost of gas and groceries down for americans ... /s
One does have to wonder. It doesn't seem very long since we "destroyed" it.
The fictions will be interesting.
However when considered in relevance to all the other money our govt wastes, this isn't going to be very much.
This Administration has refused to reveal the expenses allocated or incurred for every military folly trump has engaged in so far.
As far as Hegseth is concerned, it's in the budget.
As far as Trumps concerned, Venezuela wont cost anything.
Trump’s Retro Imperialism - The Atlantic
his big beautiful bill was a cash windfall to all the depts where his loyalists will do his bidding to the letter ...
No one in the US government has claimed Iran was anywhere near a nuclear bomb.
But It was last June. Iran isn't run by Gavin Newsom. They aren't going to spend decades and billions of dollars to build like a half a mile of train track.
They've probably been working diligently on restarting the program and this sets them back, again.
when considered in relevance to all the other money our govt wastes,
Deposing the ayatollah and destroying the Iranian military seems like a good bargain for the cost of a couple Somali daycares.
Remember when people embarrassed themselves claiming Hegseth was a disaster of a selection?
He's been the best Sec Def/War in generations. American military prestige is as high as its ever been after the last year. Such a recovery from Biden and the Afghan withdrawal debacle.
Steve Witkoff, the White House’s lead negotiator in those discussions with the Iranians, said on Fox News on Saturday that Iran is “probably a week away from having industrial-grade bomb making material .”
Fact-check: In Trump’s Case for an Attack on Iran, False or Unproven Claims - The New York Times
Is "probably" really good enough to start another unprovoked war where American soldiers are already dying. Was just making sure without evidence worth those soldiers' lives to their parents? I'd like to be a lot more damn sure that there is an imminent threat to our citizens before going and starting a war on "probably".
OK
But we're talking about equipment we already own being used by soldiers we already pay.... so far.
If it goes on for a long time or we start calling up reserves, that obviously changes the math.
I didn't even imply they had.
We were told last time that they'd been set back decades.
I don't believe at all this is about nukes.
Cost is just something liberals are going to pretend matters because they seem to believe that if they make up a long enough list of things to bitch about they might be able to convert a few people to the faith.
Once we admit this is the actual goal is deposing a tyrant that massacres his own people and is hell bent on nuclear apocalypse, the conversation changes.
you replied to an assertion that the attack was Because " he needed to re-annihilate the nuclear program that he already utterly destroyed."
I was supplying context.
e were told last time that they'd been set back decades.
Per the DOD- U.S. military strikes on Iran’s three main nuclear facilities in June likely set that program back by 1-2 years, the Pentagon’s top spokesperson said Wednesday.
Wow. Great rebutall.
Forget about arresting a hostile dictator without a single American fatality, an unprecedented attack that successfully decapitated the entire leadership structure of an enemy that has plagued us for almost 50 years and not to mention pulling off an incredibly complicated successful raid on the supposedly impregnatable Iranian nuclear facilities, you hit on the important stuff. .
Those slight inconveniences will no doubt be remembered for hundreds of years and studied by historians as the defining moments of Trump's second term. Remember when they shut down an airport for a few hours?? The world was never the same!
Inconvenient, isn't it, to see evidence that under Hegseth, our military forces look like Keystone Cops.
Are we sure about that? Or is that an unsupported assertion on your part?
Right. You've nailed the important stuff that matters.
Believing the military under Hegseth, with everything it's accomplished, looks like "keystone cops" is the epitome of TDS.
an unsupported assertion on your part?
Even the Iranians have admitted it.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603016067
From your link:
Yes, a Khamenei appointee to the deputy chief position of the IRGC was surely not part of the leadership structure.
It looks like you're reading what you want them to have "admitted".
reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-officials-skeptical-regime-change-tehran-after-khamenei-killing-say-sources-2026-03-02/
I call bullshit. Just wtf is "industrial grade bomb making material"?
Those are not the terms that people on the NRC or IAEA use to describe fissile material.
The problem that we have as Americans is that we gave the keys to the bus, the bomb, and the country to a crazy old man with delusions of grandeur, and we are letting him drive the country off of the edge of the metaphorical world.
What a country.
And there are still tens of millions of people who are so deep in denial they can't even see how fucking deluded they are. It's truly insane. I never thought in all my years I'd see this kind of just blatant abandonment of facts and reality in favor of creating their own reality where they do no wrong and their lord and master is always right. Apparently, no one should even think about challenging the Mango Mussolini's Moronic Opinion 'Weave' which resembles a William Shatner as Hitler on an authoritarian acid trip spoken word rambling poetry jam to "YMCA" background music.
Now getting combat pay times how many participants? How many units in how many countries and states?
How much have we expended in missiles and extra fuels?
The math has already changed.
An unprecedented illegal attack that could bite American diplomacy for decades.
"probably" was a good enough reason to start the last 2 middle east wars we were involved in ...
Apparently potential personal profit, corporate donors and "probably" are all that some Republicans need to endorse sending our sons and daughters into harm's way.
my cousin's son already got to visit venezuela this year and now he's pre-staged somewhere in the middle east. a former colleague's son is attached to a carrier group in the mediterranean. I wonder how many service member deaths and how much of the US treasury it will take to keep a child molester in the oval office.
I'm width you, for times the heights of LIES that have lowered US so far in so many areas covered, buy three sheetz to the wind up toy soldier wanna be CIC, asz not usually do warz bring Good grief, all as Trump playz Loosely with Lucy, pullin that damn ball out from the maga crowds cheerin on our D feat, it has not actually been a treat, to watch what I "never thought in all my years I'd see" yet it's definitely happened, N kot just to you, cause sometimes Y, I also must have not thawt, i'd see , asz much too
I still don't think this had anything to do with nuclear weapons.
It looks very much like they are trying to clear the deck to make it easier for the non-islamist Iranians to take back their country.
Given the previous regime's long history of support for terrorist organizations both in and outside the Middle East, I don't have a problem with that.
Are we going to provide the non Islamist Iranians with tens of thousands of on the ground weapons ?
how?
I have no idea. I'm not in the planning meetings. I'm just doing that thing you hate where I judge situations by people's actions.
Israel hit the Supreme Leader and more than half of is deputies/henchmen. Then, when the remaining deputies (all of whom are Islamist theocrats) convened to select a new supreme leader, Israel hit that group, killing most of those people.
It looks like the idea here is to weaken the autocracy structure deeply enough to allow alternative leadership to emerge. It remains to be seen how effective that will or won't be.
For our part, we've hit significant parts of their military infrastructure, and we appear to be willing and able to continue to do that. Weakening their military reduces a potential major obstacle to an internal overthrow of their dictatorship.
You said we have "cleared the deck". If you don't know how we would help them how can you say we cleared the deck?
From what I understand the anti-regime populace has virtually no weapons.
That's not what I said.
You may be 100% right. But we weren't very well armed comparatively during our revolution, either. We stole cannons from the British and borrowed ships from the French.
I also don't underestimate Israeli intelligence. They very possibly might have some sort of plan in place that we just don't know about.
The President just told the Iranian people that the government is theirs to take.
Who in their right mind cares what he says?
The same President told the American people to take a horse dewormer and ingest bleach.
Evidently many of the Trump haters, lefties and indoctrinated Marxists who routinely misquote him.
The same President told the American people to take a horse dewormer and ingest bleach.
There you go!
Claim:
U.S. President Donald Trump once suggested that people should inject bleach or other disinfectants into their bodies to treat COVID-19.
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What's True:
During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, Trump said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for injections.
What's False:
However, at no point did he explicitly tell people they could or should inject bleach into their bodies.
Fact Check: Trump never advised people to 'inject bleach' to tackle COVID-19. This is what he said
Phantom enemy hysteria.
What he actually said:
The problem is that people hear that from the PotUS and some of them do stupid, dangerous things. The words of a PotUS are powerful and should be used carefully. Trump is fast and loose with words and often speaks out of pure ignorance.
That may be true, but his opponents rush right in and build on it with misquotes and outright lies.
There is no need to misquote or lie about Trump since the truth is damning in itself.
But clearly there is a strong reason for Trump supporters to rush in with lies and misquotes in a feeble (and sickening) attempt to defend this asshole.
From the current democrat mayor of NYC:
"Each according to their need, each according to their ability."
Eric Adams exposes Mamdani for quoting Karl Marx in 2020 social media post | Fox News
I fact checked it via the left of center Snopes.
Apparently you do not know what Marx meant by that. Even though I know I have provided the meaning in the past.
Marx was describing his utopic vision where industrial sophistication would lead to abundant resources and thus everyone could get what they needed and that people would not need to work to live.
His vision was utopic and arguably silly, but that is what he was referring to. That, Vic, is what Marx labeled ‘Communism’. Abundant resources and no class distinctions. And the polar opposite of authoritarian rule.
I gave you the exact words!
I'm not interested in an interpretation. The point is that there is no enemy hysteria. There are actual members of the democrat party as well as a good part of Academia that are Marxists.
As did I. The member you attempted to defend misquoted it, didn't he?
Leader of the Democratic Socialists of America, the radicals behind AOC Mamdani etc is openly cheering for Iran to win.
Another of their "stars" Rashida Talib, refers to the US "they" instead of "we"
They aren't subtle about their hatred for the country.
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Yes, you clearly want to believe that which suits your preconceived notions rather than what is historically accurate.
The hysteria is most definitely real ... seen routinely.
Well of course there are Marxists. But they are a tiny portion of the population and are largely meaningless. Especially in terms of those who could in any way cause capitalism to be replaced with Marxist socialism.
It is hysteria to be concerned about Marxists. Be concerned instead with reality — an incompetent psychopathic authoritarian who you helped give the powers of the US presidency. Marxists can do little damage to our nation; Trump can and does damage our nation on a continuous basis.
I am not defending a member, I am focusing on the facts: what Trump said as PotUS and the implication of a PotUS using those exact words.
Trump is irresponsible with his rhetoric.
That's right, you can't defend him.
Trump said as PotUS and the implication of a PotUS using those exact words.
You and I and Snopes posted his exact words. The implication is he never told anyone to inject themselves with detergent and only a moron would take it that way and only a Trump hating degenerate would try to misrepresent what he said.
I'm glad we solved it TiG.
Get a grip, Vic. I am focused on facts. You are being petty.
My point is that Trump is careless with his words and as PotUS that can be dangerous.
Recognize that you helped elect and continue to try to defend an irresponsible, incompetent buffoon.
Didn't I read that there was a serious increase in bleach related illnesses and a few deaths from the head maga morons' suggestions of STupiDity, that some took upon and acted, cause his ignorance has done infected some of US....
A PotUS needs to be careful (responsible) with his words. Trump is the antithesis of that.
Silly TiG, you just gotta know when he's joshin witt ya, ore when he's just ironing out some of his idiosynchrocies out on his bored of piece of matters ala fecal, cause after the first potUS debacle who really needed to see the sequil feather in a dunce cap, signed automatically buy a pen for piggy in our oh vailed off-Ice N citzens put on, cause when grabs em buy the pussy, makes you want an autistic Tylenol, Kaitlin ain't smilin, cauuse Epstein victims don't think it is a joke, nor do any normal thinkin folk ....this killer of US to distract from the deeds of thee, just means the GOP, has GOTTA WAKE UP and remove HE, cause we can't bee waitin on stingin tapes of Pee
Wee Herman Munster iz doin E Lily's job, vacuumin up our cash at the cost of our country, and even more importantly, lives of our Countryman, all while like Lily, blowin smoke up a bunch of asses
as we ALL take the hit
“…as we ALL take the hit.”
….it’s apparently curtains for us…
meh, I'm not worried. last time I checked mar-a-lardo and bedminster still show up on google maps to find, you know, for all those iranian sleeper cell terrorists that biden let walk across the open borders. not to mention how trump is usually wandering around aimlessly out in the open while cheating on golf at least 3 afternoons a week .... /s
as long as they match the carpet....
Didn't you mean to say the republicon party is actually a reactionary party full of Fascists & Neo-Nazis as well as christian dominionists? Thought so.
no goosestepping allowed, not until after trump declares the winners of the midterms next xmas ...
No, that's what you keep saying.
BTW, have they rebuilt those homes burned down by the fires yet?
How about the high-speed rail project?
They are working on it as fast as possible, the first home was completed 11/21/2025.
One year is pretty fast considering all the infrastructure underground that has to be tested or replaced.
They still have ambitious plans in 2026 to complete the Central Valley section next.
Have you already forgotten the problems with Boston's Big Dig?
Maybe you can remind the class of all of the issues from 1970 to 2007 and all of the massive cost overruns that the Feds had to pay out?
The High Speed rail line was financed by a mix of federal grants, state funding and now since 2008 voter approved Bonds.
In a petty act of political "revenge" King Trump canceled $4 Billion in FRA funding approved long ago.
If you want to read an absolutely disgraceful biased opinion on why the project was canceled go here
I would think that if any former Administration had posted emotional and unsupported drivel like this, then at least the Cabinet Secretary would lose his or her job.
Instead, those who are into vengeful regional politics rejoice.
California, the largest state economy, yay, the 4th largest economy in the world found a way to replace the funding and guarantee that the project continue the old fashioned American way with warts, issues and overruns like all American projects.
IMHO.
Even the homes that escaped destruction in and around the Palisades have issues.
Lead and other toxins still linger in homes after LA wildfires | AP News
Lol.
As of January:
"Metallic grinding sounds mark the start of the day, as contractors report to work in Pacific Palisades and Altadena, California. One year after the fires, construction has begun on just about 500 of the more than 16,000 structures lost, with only a few homes fully rebuilt.
Karen Martinez is one of the lucky ones. Navigating the complex web of permits, insurance payouts and rising construction costs, she started rebuilding her home in Malibu in October."
One year after California wildfires, progress is slow in rebuilding - CBS News
What the hell do you find amusing?
Mocking the trauma and loss of fellow Americans does what, exactly, for your psyche?
typical whiplash inducing deflection when the argument is lost ...
The reconstruction process for many of them is well underway, like you care. Rising costs of construction under the Trump economy hasn't helped.
Actively under construction.
Just the effort to clear the properties of the debris was massive. We were all impressed by the speed with which they were able to accomplish it.
latimes.com/environment/story/2025-08-26/wildfire-milestone-army-corps-says-work-on-la-fire-damaged-homes-is-done#:~:text=L.A.%20fires:%20After%20clearing%2010%2C000,to%20done%20-%20Los%20Angeles%20Times
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I understand that the lead dust contamination is still a problem as it attached and/or penetrated hardwood floors and insurance companies are just walking away leaving incomplete remediations.
it's important to note who was in power when there were no nationwide restrictions on lead and asbestos in building products and building codes, and who were the most resistant to the changes that forced their elimination of exposure to the public.
That's correct. I have a friend who lives in the Pacific Palisades. Her home did not burn but she and her family are still unable to move back in. Her parents lost their home in Malibu to the fires, but they are in their 80s and I don't know if they have decided what to do yet.
There were a few people that drank bleach and died.
Quite a few older people bought big RVs and just park them on their property, waiting...
What else did Iran expect? They refuse to give up developing long range ballistic missiles, have a history of hiding their enriching of uranium from the IAEA, call Israel the Little Satan and the USA the Big Satan, have their proxies Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthies attack Israel and more....
This was a great opportunity to take down that evil regime. They never have been weaker, though they will hit back with everything they have, that is why this operation may involve US casualties. The President told the people that could happen.
Thus far Iran has hit Isreal and most of the Arab countries with the exception of Oman.
It's been reported that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been killed but Iran is denying it. The English language TV news here has been covering the conflict continuously, so I'm spending a lot of time watching TV now. IMO a regime change friendly to Israel could lead to a lot more Middle East nations signing up to the Abraham Accords, and would off Iran's support to its proxies Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthies, just might lead to a more peaceful Middle East.
It would do that and more.
meh, just wait until you see the massive crowds in american cities when trump eventually goes tits up ...
oh, the irony ...
that's almost as bad as stealing weapons grade nuclear materials, then refusing to admit they have nukes or join the IAEA.
Wow! That comment indicates an awfully strong hatred to have broken such a silence.
care to elaborate on the parts that you feel are untrue?
Who knows for sure? Just as the amount of redactions in the Epstein files can cause exaggerated implications, so can no actual proof cause imagination that can outperform reality. However, it was not Israel's silence that I meant.
based upon your escalating acrimony and number of spelling and syntax errors, call it a going away present ...
Poor Hamas Ben Rhodes and Obama who spent the Obama presidency trying to build the world’s largest supporter of terrorism into a nuclear armed middle eastern hegemon. The country they kow towed to and gave billions in cash has alreadt managed to unite the region against it with its completely ineffective missile strikes.
Could you imagine if they were in power. They would throw Iran a huge lifeline.
This operation is going to continue for a while, but when it is over, the world will be a far better place.
Please note that the Europeans are not a partner in this operation.
That's a laugh. Trump just employed Obama's "Arab spring" foreign policy for Libya. Trump turned the clock back to 2011 with his own version of Operation Odyssey Dawn.
Weren't the BENGHAZI Republicans paying attention?
Obama attacked a country in the Middle East. So did Trump. Score one for superficial arguments!
Nothing you wrote disproves my point. Recognizing the Islamic dictatorship of Iran as the regional hegemon and a partner was the lynchpin of Obama's foreign policy. It led to Obama accepting humiliation at the hands of Putin because he thought Russia would "help" with Iran.
Trump's foreign policy, going back to the killing of the terrorist head of the IGRC has been to expose Iran as a paper tiger and isolate it. It's literally the exact opposite of Obama's.
Which sounds very similar to the drum beats about Muammar Gaddafi. When does Trump begin talking about the importance of aiding an ally?
That's a very Clintonesque summation to justify unilateral use of military force on behalf of an ally. Just hope nobody spreads a an anti-Muslim video that triggers another BENGHAZI.
People can spin it, twist it, lie about it but this is nothing more than another Obama Arab spring red line. It might be different if Trump hadn't obliterated Iran's nuclear program.
So, which lie are we supposed to believe?
Just hope nobody spreads a an anti-Muslim video that triggers another BENGHAZI
Lol. A great demonstration of the power of a lie. Almost 15 years later….
It will be a while before we have damage reports.
You sound like a child on Christmas Eve. It says a lot.
It is the Eve of the end of a very evil regime.
You routinely fail to acknowledge what has become glaringly obvious to thinking Americans. Trump totally lacks the gene that invokes empathy. He cares even less for the Iranian people than he does for the American citizens that he stripped of healthcare, or the Americans who could die because of these reckless actions. There is a personal enrichment reason for everything he does, because that is who he is down to his last string of dna.
Does that mean that you prefer this regime be left in place?
Why do I need to even have an opinion on what happens on the other side of the world? Should we queue up the next 100 countries across the planet that abuse their citizens and steer our warships in their directions? Again, Trump does not care one iota for a single one of them. And it’s not like he wants Americans to die because of his careless, reckless, and greedy actions - he just doesn’t care if they do because he lacks the physiological ability to do so. And this is the person chosen to be in charge of the nuclear codes, by Republicans.
“Quid deinde, Ricarde, et cui?”
There is no really viable group or groups that have the infrastructural capabilities of "taking over" governmental functions. There is no leader apparent waiting in the wings.
you got that right, hurry november ...
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Can't make this shit up, it's like comedy that just writes itself.
I know he gave that dreadfully droll emotionless announcement of the first three service members that died in front of a temporary scrim, then he stepped behind that and went straight back to the party at Mar a lago.
What an empty vessel.
... be more charitable. those 3 KIA's each got 3 seconds of POS/POTUS's televised grief and anguish, but to your point, another 2 inches to the right 19 months ago probably wouldn't have fazed his leadership abilities that much today. /s
Good gawd! That's not a secure area and everybody here that's cheering this shit on fucking knows it!
Unless they've never worn a uniform or if they did they ignored all their OpSec, CommSec, and InfoSec training!
The building in Iraq was a hastily rented store front; the unit protested when they got there but the boss said "what are the chances"?
There were actually 5 killed at this site, they didn't "discover" the other two bodies until they were tearing down the rest of the building.
They were from another unit but it still doesn't speak well for the chain of command.
If we had supported the Shah, this would not be necessary now
The Shah was a dictator.
You believe the Ayatollahs were an upgrade?
Who killed more Iranians, the Shahs during their entire reign or the Islamic Republic of Iran during the last few months?.
It's like arguing deposing the tsars was a good thing for the Russian people or the world.
1 Don't care Shah was on our side
2 you don't think Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamene was a dictator?
The Shah had many thousands of peaceful protesters tortured and killed . it isn't that difficult to understand why the Iranians revolted against him 1979
It doesn't matter what you do or don't care about . the people of Iran had reason to overthrow the Shah. The fact that what came after was as bad or worse doesn't effect their justifications for overthrowing the Shah.
Your argument is silly
That argument seems silly, too
given the indefensible nature of your claim, that's about the best you could do.
And for your information, the deposed Shah killed a couple hundred peoples for political reasons over a reign that lasted almost 50 years. [deleted][✘]
I do not support the government of Iran.
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You justified their successful overthrow of the much more peaceful Shah.[✘]
I explained why they wanted to overthrow the Shah. Your ridiculous premise is that they should have been able to see the future.
The Shah was still better and Jimmy Carter should have seen the problem of a power vacuum and religious. extreamists,
Trump was just awarded the Blow Bibi Peace Prize by the Trump Board Of Peace.
I think you misspelled a couple words, it should read "Trump was just awarded the Blow Bibi's Piece Prize by The Trump Bored of Peace".
it's trump's new war on high gas and grocery prices ...
I hope North Korea doesn't have any portable nukes they would be willing to lend Iran.
Yup, nuclear weapons have really kept a lot of Communist and radical islamic regimes in power.
Here is one that will soon be denuked
Then lets attack North Korea.
see 7.1.6
Trump has already obliterated their nuclear ambitions. So he says:
But now they are such a threat that the US must engage in attempted regime change using military force?
The answer is obvious. They have tried to rebuild those facilities and have demonstrated that they intend to continue their pursuit of nuclear weapons.
Do we simply ignore it until they have that capability and we are once again forced to deal with yet another evil regime with nuclear weapons?
No, I am in favor of the international community holding Iran in check.
My comment was pointing out the constant bullshit emanating from Trump. Nobody can believe anything this guy says and unfortunately, he is PotUS thanks to people like you.
It is not possible, with the Trump administration, to rely upon anything coming from the administration and the agencies it influences.
I am in favor of the international community holding Iran in check.
so you aren’t in favor of Iran being held in check.
Try again, and this time actually read what I wrote. Or just read what you quoted.
(The USA is part of the international community relative to Iran.)
So your term is essentially meaningless (Israel, the US and their gulf coast allies) are part of the "international community" or you don't because the entire international community including China and those attached to its pole would never do anything as we've seen from their acceptance of Iran's actions since 1979.
the revenge and retribution cultures in the middle east needed to be refreshed for another century ...
You are trying way too hard to not understand a clear, complete answer.
I will break it down for you:
In response to Vic's question: "Do we simply ignore it until they have that capability and we are once again forced to deal with yet another evil regime with nuclear weapons?" I replied with:
"No". That alone should be very clear.
But I even went further and stated that it is important to hold Iran in check.
On top of that I noted that I believe the international community should all hold Iran in check. The reason is that Iran as a nuclear power affects the entire planet.
And I intentionally referred to the international community because I do not believe that the USA must or should solely be responsible for keeping Iran in check.
So, my answer to to Vic's question was clear "No" and then provided supporting reasoning.
Don't try so hard to not understand clear responses.
Physician, heal thyself.
I will break down my point for you.
Your condition, negates your claim because it relies on an impossibility. The fabled "international community" has not held Iran in check since 1979.
It's like claiming "I'll quit drinking as soon as I win two billion dollar lotteries."
You continue trying too hard to (intentionally) not understand a clear point.
I did not make a claim. I stated what I believe should be true. You should know the difference.
I did not claim that every nation on the planet WILL hold Iran in check. I stated that (logically) every nation SHOULD do so because we are all affected.
And, of course, my point was that the USA should not be the sole nation holding Iran in check.
You are trolling with faux obtuseness.
You keep forgetting that all important reason rightwing religious conservatives are okay with going to war with Iran, Iranians are Muslim! Rightwing conservative Christians see Muslims as an ideological global foe that must be defeated and subjugated. I have a couple MAGA clients who often rage about how Muslims are taking over this country and that we should bomb Iran since that's where they think the masterminds of the Muslim agenda to take over the world is based. They're fucking insane, but these rightwing conservative fuckers believe that shit.
that's right. thumpers are really pissed off that according to the bible their savior is running late, and they really need to jump start armageddon soon, right after they and their next in line religious victims help them exterminate a few million more muslims ...
What is your fascination and love of nuclear weapons?
What a ridiculous thing to say
OBAMA IS BACK!
Attacking a country at the behest of an ally is most definitely not MAGA. What's the difference between Trump's Operation Epic Fury and Obama's Operation Odyssey Dawn?
You see, rightwing conservatives couldn't support Obama's Operation Odyssey Dawn because it's on the 'left' side of the color chart. But Trump is on the 'right' side of the color chart, so that makes it okay for those on the right to support. /s
WTF for? To make Israel happy? What is the mission? Iran is not a threat to us. Didn’t we just “obliterate” their nuclear weapons program like six months ago?
To answer those questions one would need to find a logical or moral center to the administration. I have seen evidence of neither. Maybe that is why.
It's telling that Iranians hare more pro-American than the American left. And it's glaring right here on this site.
You got that right