Iran blinks...Ceasefire in effect
Only hours before Iran was to get pummeled, the remnants of the regime came to the table with a 10-point plan. Under threat of having infrastructure flattened Iranians promiose to open the strait of Hormuz in return for a two week ceasfire.
"President Donald Trump agreed to a ceasefire on Tuesday and to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for two weeks.
The move came after talks with Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, who urged Trump to delay any further U.S. military action while both sides continued to negotiate.
“This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
Trump said he received a 10-point proposal from Iran, calling it a "workable basis on which to negotiate."
"Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated," he wrote."
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If the straight is not opened all bets are off.
If it is, this is a big win for Trump!
For sane Americans, yes, but for many leftists, there will be pissed they will not have a reason to call him a war criminal, even though Iran told them to.
If it's a war crime to bomb infrastructure they'll have to prosecute Bill Clinton. But right now the Dems can pound sand.
It is a war crime to destroy water works and food production/distribution infrastructure as that must be available to keep civilians alive. It is not a war crime to bomb and destroy bridges and power plans unless it can be proven 100% that the usage is only for civilians use and there is no government or military use of them. Plain and simple.
So I agree, the Dems can pound sand for now.
Why is this a partisan question? Why are partisan politics even mentioned given the PotUS (regardless of political party) has changed the nation again for the worst by an unhinged threat of war crimes — to kill an entire civilization?
This is not a political issue; the issue is the fitness of Trump to be PotUS and the potential damage he is likely to continue to inflict on this nation and the planet.
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It's a straight strait.
Even your joke is wrong:
LOL.
Will lhe ceasefire include Iran instructing its proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthies to obey the ceasefire as well?
Stop trying to rationalize and sanewash Trumps behavior.
I have had it with people who both sides Trump and act as if that is a normal thing to do.
I hope Iran never commits terrorism again but that is not relevant to Trump being the worst president ever.
Do you mean that I'm supportive of Trump's attempts to stop Iran from ever being a threat to Israel again, by itself or through its proxies Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthies? If so, I will damn well continue whatever you think I've been doing to rationalize Trump's behaviour, like it or not.
When the winds of Trump blow in what you believe to be Israel's direction you are fine with him. Thats just wrong.
One can wish Israel well without waffling on Trump. Try it sometime.
Notwithstanding how you feel about my attitudes I will give credit where IMO credit is due and criticize where IMO criticism is due. I'm not a slave to your party pollitics or personal attitudes..
Part of this thread was removed for nasty back-and-forth discussion. Knock it off. Only warning!
You can do whatever you want, just dont try to claim you oppose Trump in any meaningful way.
I'll claim whatever I want to the extent I want, and I don't need a teacher.
Yes and no, there's still a lot to work out. If the same group of religious fanatics keep control of Iran then this is not a win but rather just a postponement. Without boots on the ground I don't see how regime change will occur. Boots on the ground doesn't necessarily mean American troops, we could provide sufficient arms to the Kurds as well as indigenous support to overthrow the government while providing air support. But without removing those currently in power, all we do is kick the can down the road again.
It would be ideal to remove them. It may be time to arm the people.
taco.
iran called trump's bluff. trump caved and got nothing out of the deal. it doesn't matter what trump says, bibi isn't done killing muslims yet. trump has wasted enough of the US treasury on his war to fund every domestic program and position that he has cut so far, until the end of his term.
So the deal is done? What are the details, I must have missed them.
It is hard to follow. One week the left says he is Hitler and the next they say he caved.
I think Trump should just play out the negotiations all the way to November and Right after the midterms go right back to bombing Iran.
What Trump should do is resign.
Good grief man, do you actually watch what Trump is doing.
Here is a very simple example:
Now is that something that a tyrant would threaten?
Then, after Iran called Trump's bluff, and we see that " Vance says talks with Iran have ended without an agreement " what does he say now?
He claims we win no matter what.
Vic, let's just hope that he continues to NOT carry out his threat to kill the entire Iranian civilization and just plays his dishonest game of lying about reality in the hope that there are still gullible people out there who believe his ceaseless lies.
I agree that the vast majority of American voters are opposed to Trump's war and continued bombing would cost republicans the midterms. Not unusual for republicans to want to hide their true intentions.
Explain the wisdom of that for us. What would be the objective? What is the exit strategy? What would Trump bomb and why?
To destroy a whole civilization.
Trump leaves office on January 20, 2029.
Everything, which is necessary if you're going to destroy a whole civiliation.
I bet I do not see a real answer to my questions. Likely silence or deflection.
It looks like I gave you the real answer.
no principals within the maga hierarchy have yet to justify trump's war to the taxpayers ...
Let's use some reasoning for a change. Don't you think a regime totally dedicated to terror and destroying Israel and America won't try to rebuild what was taken out from now until November? There are those who will try and help them do that. That is why it is necessary.
And in the meantime, we should find a way to arm the people of Iran.
The projection here is extreme.
Of course they are going to rebuild. We know they are basically run by a terrorist regime. We know they want to rid the planet of infidels. The question is not that this is an evil, sick regime but rather how to deal with it. See? So let's see you apply this reasoning you profess to have.
Just go back to bombing? That is your grand solution?
As I asked (and you ignored):
What would be the objective? What is the exit strategy? What would Trump bomb and why?
When you deflect, you illustrate that you really do not have a well-reasoned position.
Actually, I do. The timing of this was premature. It should have been done after the midterms, but Israel was able to get Iranian leadership in one place and we launched the attack.
Either way the clear goal is noble and justified: To kill off the evil regime in Iran.
What is unreasonable is the total resistance to this President by a bunch of indoctrinated lefties.
Trump did not accomplish that.
Trump cannot accomplish that.
It is a fool's errand to attempt to kill the Iranian leadership since it has layers and layers of replacements. Iran will remain a constant threat that must be held in check with sanctions, destroying nuclear sites, etc. It is a long-term problem and it is brain-dead stupid to think we can go in with bombs and cause a magical change in this theocracy.
Trump is a disaster. It is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic to support a PotUS who makes the USA look like shit on the world stage (damage that will likely continue for decades), enter the USA into a pointless and unnecessary war, fuck up the war, impose tariffs (on and off like a madman) which do nothing but raise prices for USA consumers, and focus his attention on self-aggrandizement rather than work (per the oath of office) for the American people.
To label Trump opponents as indoctrinated must be the height of both hypocrisy and projection.
Based on their stated goals, it would be irresponsible not to take them out.
We cannot take them out. We can only contain them.
Based on what is happening the fourth layer will be thinking long and hard about changing their position after they go to the funerals of the first three layers.
So, you seem to be trying to say that Trump crushed Iran's nuclear-powered vision of wiping anybody off the face of Earth, brought the Middle East to the brink of peace and left the world awash in raw oil? We have to put up with three more years of this shit?
Alternate reality!
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A sad day for the left
Its been a sad ten years for America. Do you really think the Trump years will end well?
It should be a sad day for every rational human being when the PotUS threatens to wipe out an entire civilization.
Do you truly believe that 'the left' wanted Trump to wipe out Iran??
I do.
Whoever follows Trump will have all of the heavy lifting done. Trump took all the heat. Part 2 is for the smooth MAGA leaders.
He never threatened the Iranian people. As a matter of fact, what Trump threatened has already begun:
"The office of Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says Israeli warplanes are carrying out strikes on Iran's infrastructure, ahead of President Donald Trump's vow to do so if the Iranian government fails to open the Strait of Harmuz by Tuesday night.
The warplanes are targeting bridges and railways because Iran's Revolutionary Guard is using them to transport materials to make weapons, according to the office.
Netanyahu approved the strikes with Defense Minister Israel Katz and said they weren't meant to target Iranian civilians but the government, according to the Associated Press."
Netanyahu says Israeli planes have struck Iran bridges, railways ahead of Trump vow to do so tonight
More bad news for the left.
Do you truly believe that 'the left' wanted Trump to wipe out Iran??
Absolutely not. The left wanted Iran to counter Israel. Remember?
Good grief Vic, how can you possibly ignore this??
What do the words "a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again" mean to you?
There is no knowing what 'the left' means to you. Some people did, but others did not. You have created a fantasy boogeyman, and like your other boogeyman (socialism), your claims are exaggerated to the point of being ridiculous.
Gee, TiG, how times have changed:
"Infrastructure that serves both military and civilian purposes can be a lawful target if it provides genuine military advantage and the civilian harm isn’t disproportionate to that advantage. Clinton and Obama both invoked it. The international community accepted it both times. Now, suddenly, it’s a novel atrocity?"
Trump's Iran strike isn't a war crime — it's a Democrat double standard
You see, TiG, this noble exercise ends in one of three ways:
1) The most ideal is for the people of Iran to somehow take charge of the government.
2) The next best way to end it is with a Venezuela type solution in which those remnants of the regime reach an understanding with the US.
3) We can simply use the Gen Curtis LeMay method of destroying infrastructure and leaving. It would leave Iran in a very primitive state. I believe Gen Tecumseh Sherman called it "Total War."
Whatever the end, history will note that it was one of the most effective military campaigns in human history, despite what leftwing media tries to say.
Amazing, you continue to ignore what Trump posted. The denial here is staggering.
Open your eyes and read what the unhinged lunatic wrote!
That is what the folks on the Trump hysteria train seem to ignore. That gives alot of leeway to a president before it is actually a war crime. Although I think his genocide statement was ill advised and over the top if he is trying to get Iranian citizens on board with him I am confident it will not come to that.
Of course many on the left spout he is already a war criminal but that is just rhetoric for the base for the midterms
Funny as hell when so many on the left have been saying something has to be done about Iran for over 10 years but when Trump does exactly what they say needs to be done they decide it is a war crime. They don't even try to hide their hypocrisy.
But it is perfectly OK when the threatened country screamed "death to America" for decades and leftists just said....yep, we agree
The stupidity of that comment is truly breathtaking.
When then take a good breath and show me where democrats outwardly disagreed with Iran stating that exact term.
Your proof? Stating that exact term, or anything close to it.
The problem you have is you do not recognize that, to most leftists, silence is admitting guilt.
Not one left wing politician, except maybe Fetterman, has disavowed Iran using that term.
Also, I made the statement without quotation marks, so to demand someone made that exact quote is disingenuous and would easily be thrown out of court.
Why is the guy that had a stroke have a better understanding of the dangers of the left wing than the left wing does?
You truly are the leading legal "expert" on here. The depth of your legal acumen is astonishing. Remind us again of all the jurisdictions you're licensed to practice law in. It's impressive.
My profession is proving left wingers wrong.
I’m sure you are very aware of that.
That must be one hell of a work load. Easy but a lot nonetheless.
‘That must be one hell of a work load. Easy but a lot nonetheless.’
It is quite easy but does take some time. The reward is the fun it provides…..and no….as some libs say….I don’t want to own liberals. Too much if a burden
That's reward enough.
Although it is a perk.
Since you're a total failure at it, you should try doing something you might actually be capable of. We'll be happy to get you a coloring book and some crayons.
History shows otherwise.
"We'll be happy to get you a coloring book and some crayons."
Thanks. I prefer ones that you (collective you) leftists have not tried to eat.
Gsquared & Bugsy; both stop with the petty back and forth
Now that is some stark projection.
I'm saying that if the strait is opened, it is a home run for Trump. If that strait isn't opened by morning, they suck on more US bombs. Either way that is a win!
How do you think that bombing the Strait of Hormuz is going to cause it to open up? What kind of absurd logic makes you think that Iran is going to just roll over? Those leaders are almost as nutty as Trump, and they have no problem dying for the cause of Allah.
If Trump were to continue bombing, he would just wind up spending more blood and treasure while killing people and capabilities with no useful end.
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Incremental humiliation is the least of our problems.
Of course, Trumps ongoing and worsening mental illness is our biggest problem.
Bombing the Strait itself? Where did I say that? I think there are targets that could motivate Iran to open the Strait. I believe that Iran closed the Strait in order to stop the war. Right now, they partly accomplished that. It is time to deal.
If Trump were to continue bombing, he would just wind up spending more blood and treasure while killing people and capabilities with no useful end.
The remaining targets would bankrupt the regime. Most of the Iranian economy is tied to the oil stored on Kharg Island. We have avoided bombing that for now.
Good lord. Does stupid Adam Kinzinger believe we agreed to that?
That suggests that Iran is lying again.
Remember when they said they weren't negotiating?
As sure as the sun rises in the morning we all knew the left was going to say that Trump lost.
Terminal TDS does to that to some.
Indeed, trump devotion syndrome has really ruined a lot of people.
As you said three days ago. Obviously, you just meant any morning.
check this out
Show me where I have brought up Trump in seeds that have nothing to do with Trump.
On the contrary, I can show you a left winger doing just that.
Matter of fact, the seed about Artemis returning to home mentions Trump because....or something
Sad, really.
You did not read the seed then. It was talking about Trump. For example:
Trump is desperate for Orban to win re-election. He doesn't want to lose his neo-Fascist ally.
He wrote "TDS" in his comment, and then criticizes someone else for mentioning Trump while claiming he didn't. The cognitive dissonance in that comment is textbook. Apparently, he doesn't think the "T" has anything to do with Trump. Maybe it stands for tricycle or tummy.
That should be no problem in a non-election election.
LOL
One thing I'm sure of: lefties trying to say it was him that folded
It's a win/win no matter what happens next.
Okay, explain to us all how you think Trump's threat of destruction of an entire civilization was a rational, productive thing for a PotUS to do.
I thought the bombing was to derail the Epstein Show? Exactly who are these people 'closest to him'? The ones he has fired? The ones who have turned on him? The tell-all book authors? Failed politicians?
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No one has ever told me that. On what basis would it be a coc violation?
I'd rather read opinions from twitter than read some of the brainless trolling that goes on here.
You can quote from Twitter, but you must give the link to the Twitter post.
It got Iran to the table, didn't it.
You consider Trump's threat rational and productive??
You think that Iran would not negotiate to stop the bombing without Trump threatening to kill their entire civilization. Buy a vowel!
Trump gave them what they wanted and their still fkng crying. And they expect to be takens seriously?
I do believe that is the expectation.
Isn't this the Iranian 10-point proposal that President Trump rejected a few days ago? And Iran has already taken steps to selectively open the Strait of Hormuz to allow 5 million barrels of oil per day. Iran even allowed a UAE LNG shipment to transit the Strait on April 4 for humanitarian reasons. The Strait of Hormuz has never been completely closed although the ships allowed to transit have been reduced to a trickle.
President Trump's on-again, off-again declarations of victory are not going to reassure Maersk, MSC, and Hapag-Lloyd. The ships are not going to begin transiting the Strait just because an unreliable Trump says so. Trump's two week pause isn't going to be enough to restart shipping and clearing inventory within the next two weeks.
It sure sounds like it. And if Trump really accepted those terms, I'm Dr Livingston.
And Iran has already taken steps to selectively open the Strait of Hormuz to allow 5 million barrels of oil per day. Iran even allowed a UAE LNG shipment to transit the Strait on April 4 for humanitarian reasons. The Strait of Hormuz has never been completely closed although the ships allowed to transit have been reduced to a trickle.
Good. Then Trump can return to this issue right after the midterms.
President Trump's on-again, off-again declarations of victory are not going to reassure Maersk, MSC, and Hapag-Lloyd. The ships are not going to begin transiting the Strait just because an unreliable Trump says so. Trump's two week pause isn't going to be enough to restart shipping and clearing inventory within the next two weeks.
Why don't we see what happens.
This mornings reporting suggests President Trump accepted Iran's 10-point plan. The Arab states aren't doing hand springs, either. Trump is the one who blinked. And Israel has already attempted to poison the ceasefire.
There is nothing Trump can do to recover the planting season in the northern hemisphere. That damage has been done and cannot be undone. We won't see the affects of the war on food prices until this fall (around election time).
Why would the maritime insurers and operators rely upon pronouncements from President Trump? Trump has been an unreliable source of information and an unsteady policy maker. In business dealings the shippers see Iran as a more reliable business associate than a wildcard like Trump. Iran stands by the deals it makes. That cannot be said of Trump. The shippers are waiting for reassurances from Iran.
We've been waiting six weeks to see what happens. Over those last six weeks, every Trump move has only made the situation worse. The decapitated Iranian leadership were replaced by harder hardliners. Iran's better weapons have been bunkered. And there is now little hope of a nuclear deal. And now it appears Trump has accepted what he had rejected.
The Trump team has only been touting military success which is a baseline expectation that does not warrant an attaboy. That's like an All Start NBA team beating a middle school juvie team. Big whoop. We spend so much on the US military that it should be capable of beating anyone on the planet as a baseline expectation.
It just floors me the way so many of you instantly believe 100% of what Trump has to say about this. Like no part of it could possibly be bullshit. It doesn’t even occur to you.
I have a lot of really valuable collectibles I’d like to sell you guys. Jesus!
I guess he didn’t have any points of his own. That tracks, actually.
We have a well established problem in this country where you can't tell who to believe.
I trust Trump as far as I can throw that Qatari jet they gave us. Unfortunately, that's about how far I trust most sources now.
Even if 100% of it were true, (no fucking way), anyone who trusts him to abide by an agreement is a fool.
Say the people who need fainting couches over what he says...
I believe evil people are being killed and/or defanged. That's what I want.
Most of the world says the opposite is happening.
So, an example of confirmation bias?
Yeah, that’s sort of the problem. You believe. Easily, and without evidence. Because the right people are telling you a thing, you accept it without question.
And then you tell yourself that it’s all what you already wanted - whether it is or not.
The thing is, he does things that are the opposite of what he promised. And his supporters, like you, act like it’s the long awaited delivery of all your hopes and dreams. Because he tells you it is.
It's not that they believe it, they know a lot of it is nonsense (and some of it is funny). What's hilarious is the lefts manufactured freak out over it all. For 10 years now you've all cried "Trumps a liar" then turn around and believe what he says. Then cry harder when you are laughed at for believing the nonsense.
You would think folks would have figured it out after seeing it daily for over 10 years.
It sure doesn't seem that way, especially in the context of this supposed Iran 'deal' and how big we're supposedly 'winning'. You all claim that you know he's just full of hot air, and yet you all cheer and clap when he releases another gaseous lie that waters the eyes.
None of us 'believe what he says', we simply keep pointing out the lies and think to ourselves "surely these fellow Americans will see how they are being lied to and stop this insanity!". But then we're surprised at how the MAGA faithful slither on their bellies and wiggle their way out of being cornered by another Trump lie. First, they cheer him and say he's right. Then, when proven wrong, they laugh at those pointing out the lie as being the gullible ones for taking him seriously. It's their dumb fuck 'win/win' superposition where they take zero responsibility for Trumps insanity while giving him 100% of their support. To still call these Trump supporting wastes of space 'Americans' should be criminal.
Another example of making shit up. It is ridiculous for you to actually believe that Trump critics believe what the pathological liar says. Criticizing his claims and threats is very different from believing him.
Steppeing away from the talking heads and using critical thinking skills will help.
So you your "he's a liar" blathering is subjective.
Reality is, he is no different than any other politician. He's just not YOUR choice so you hypocritically pick and choose. .
That's just nonsense. That's like saying the bubonic plague is no different than the common cold.
He's an admitted sexual predator and convicted felon who lies more than he tells the truth. It's not a matter of him "just not" being my choice. He is a disgusting vile piece of shit human I wouldn't let near my family, especially my 16-year-old daughter. I guess I'm just not a sad stupid fucking bigot in the backwoods of some hollar hoping Trump comes and graces me and my daughters with his slimy presence, but I'm sure his approval rating with all those still marrying their first cousins is through the roof.
Only to those who refuse to acknowledge the truth.
When did he "admit" to being a "sexual predator"? And think about the "conviction". A charge that was years past it's statute of limitations blown up to a "felony" by a TDS judge. A "conviction" that will more than likely be vacated upon appeal. You all should really do better.
Nice of Chris to spread Iranian propaganda for them
Yes , its much better to spread Trumps propaganda for him
And it's on the left's propaganda "news" network.
No surprise. They have had talking heads spouting we are losing the war on also. Iran could not ask for better propaganda to show their people than what the traitorous US left wing politicians and talking heads are supplying.
I'd love to see how they think we are losing this war. Aircraft shot down? Equipment damaged and / or lost? What is their criteria?
Silly question.
Trump. And a love for anything (even terrorist countries) that resist him.
Is that the same Chris Murphy who said that illegal migrants are the people we democrats care about?
Actually he said they care about illegals MOST.
Actual quotes from President Trump: Trump’s “victory timeline” claims. Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully. March 10: practically nothing left to target Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah." April 6 :a whole civilization will die April 7: total and complete victory April8: objectives were met
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Trump supporters still hold that this lunatic is fit to be president of the USA and in control of the US military.
Fucking insanity. If that was a Democrat President, these knuckleheads would be demanding the 25th amendment be evoked.
that does look better
Might as well make use of the technology available to us.
Of course, we have Trump supporters who will reject it because ... AI.
Apparently, not even they are brave enough to defend it because they know it's true and there simply is no defense. They would just make themselves look even more stupid and gullible than they already have if they tried to defend Trumps record of statements versus what every American has actually seen with their own eyes and felt with their own wallet.
Most on the left have shown their true colors in that the only thing they have to run on now and in the future is "get Trump" and "oppose EVERYTHING he does"
I invite any left wing member here to say what the democrat's platform is, besides "hate Trump", to take back the House next year. In addition, I would invite the same to state what 80/20 or 90/10 issue facing this country they are on the 80 or 90 percent of.
Anything that looks in any way negative about the action in Iran they cling to.
The negatives of this war should be glaringly obvious to those who think critically.
Again, the projection is stark. Seems to me, your comments ignore/downplay every wrong/illegal move by Trump and exaggerate any hint of something that he might do right.
Some are fighting pretty hard for a nuclear Iran. I didn't foresee the hate for Trump being this deep and emotional.
The left's new "look up to boy" seems to be Hasan Piker, who is an open anti semite and said the US deserved 9/11 and cheered Hamas and what they did to Israel.
He is the face of the democratic party today
Never heard of him and will be surprised if I ever do again.
So many on the left are not even condemning him.
Many of them are showing up on his podcast.
If we went by the rules of some here, if you do not feed him to the dogs with every breath you make, you are defending him.
There are a lot of democrats defending this guy.
Yep
Truly pathetic and disgusting
Feel free to Google him. You should know where your party is headed
You spelled "has arrived" wrong
Who is doing this? Seems like yet another ridiculous claim ... inventing claims to argue against while ignoring the ongoing stream of stupid acts and rhetoric from Trump.
Yet it is not
It is. Show me those who are fighting hard for a nuclear Iran.
You are posting bullshit.
It isn't, but thanks for your opinion
Give it a little rational thought and you will get there. Hint, lots of them are protesting for Iran
Inconvenient truth
Seems your posts are nothing more than empty claims.
Show me who is fighting hard for a nuclear Iran.
Nope
Give it a little rational thought and you will get there. Hint, lots of them are protesting for Iran
When will you stop with the mere claims and show who is fighting hard for a nuclear Iran?
A mere claim is bullshit.
Will you read what I wrote?
Show who is fighting hard for a nuclear Iran?
Seems the answer is no.
That is OK. If you can't get to the answer from the hint I gave nothing I say will help.
Your comments are consistently vague. Take a stand.
Show who is fighting hard for a nuclear Iran.
Stop with the false obtuseness.
I refuse to play your game
You refuse to back up your claim.
See 8.1.21
I don't think this is the flex you think it is. It's a pretty damning condemnation of how shitty Trump and the MAGA Republicans are doing if all Dems need to do is claim opposition to win.
They have to go with it because it seems that is all they have. The more they talk about their platform the worse it gets for them.
Yup, that makes the current asshole even worse.
Um, no
Pretty obvious way of saying "democrats have nothing else".
Look, if democrats had any ideas that would resonate with the majority of Americans, you would say something like" Trump is a bad guy, but he is not up for reelection. My ideas to make this country better are....."
No democrat has done that. It is always "hate Trump" 24/7.
"claim opposition to win."
How did that work out for democrats in Nov 24?
What 80/20 or 90/10 issue facing this country do you believe Democrats are on the 80 or 90 side? I have asked this several times over the months, and have never gotten a coherent response. Usually just insults and narcissism.
I'm agreeing with your point and taking it to its logical conclusion that if Dems can win on 'nothing else' it's a logical certainty the loser is less than 'nothing else.'
Why am I not surprised that it has been over 24 hrs and zero left wingers have addressed my question.
Maybe they just know they don't have any other argument besides "hate Trump" and that will once again be their election message.
I hope they do because we see how that turned out in Nov 24.