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Live Commentary - January 6th Committee Hearing Tuesday June 21, 2022

  
By:  JBB  •  Opinions  •  6 days ago  •  96 comments

Live Commentary - January 6th Committee Hearing Tuesday June 21, 2022

What are your thoughts on today's hearing of the January 6th Committee? 

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JBB
Professor Principal
1  author  JBB    6 days ago

Wow! Powerful testimony by Arizona Speaker Bowers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @1    6 days ago

Destroyed both Trump and Giuliani in the first couple sentences of his testimony. 

Trump and Giuliani both asked Bowers to help them steal the election in Arizona. 

Giuliani told Bowers he had specific evidence that dead people and illegals had voted in Arizona. Bowers said will you give me the names , and Giuliani said yes. No names were ever given. Nonetheless they wanted Bowers to name new Trump backing electors and throw the Biden electors out. 

Guilty as charged. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    6 days ago

TERRE HAUTE OR BUST!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    6 days ago
TERRA

It is correctly spelled Terre.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.4  author  JBB  replied to    6 days ago

Are you saying AZ Speaker Bowers is lying?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.9  author  JBB  replied to    6 days ago

Conspiring To Commit Constitutional Mischief 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.9    6 days ago
Conspiring To Commit Constitutional Mischief

And who has been charged with that, and where did the charge emanate from?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.11  author  JBB  replied to    6 days ago

If you are not going to comment on today's hearing then you need to kindly fuck off...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.9    6 days ago

So, so far--no charges in this world.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.13    6 days ago

Comments removed for no value.

Please stay on topic and make an actual comment pertaining to the article. Next time points will be given out.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
1.1.18  pat wilson  replied to  JBB @1.1.9    6 days ago

who is "placeholder" ?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.19  author  JBB  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.18    6 days ago

I do not know what happened as I did not flag John. When I post anything a certain element always shows to ruin it for everyone else...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  author  JBB    6 days ago

Can you guys believe this? I believe you must now...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2    6 days ago

Believe what? 

I haven't watched a single minute of this Soviet style charade...

Neither has the vast majority of sane Americans

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago

If you dont know anything about it why are you saying anything? 

Are people supposed to be impressed by your lack of knowledge of this matter?

Giuliani, and Trump asked the Speaker of the Arizona House to name Trump the winner in Arizona (through fake electors) even though there was no evidence whatsoever of voter fraud. 

Bowers said John Eastman asked him to put forward the fake electors and "let the courts figure it out". 

These Trump officials all belong in prison. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    6 days ago
If you dont know anything about it why are you saying anything? 

Where did he say that? Looks to me like all he said was he hasn't watched a single minute of it. There is still reading. It's much faster than watching what I compare to watching paint dry...........or grass grow.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    6 days ago
These Trump officials all belong in prison. 

WHEN will the Democrats DO something about that?

You know--instead of simply repeating the same shit ad nauseum?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    6 days ago

I know all I need I need to know John. From what I've seen, no facts have been  presented.

I'm done with Trump and don't care whether he's found guilty of something.....or not

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.2    6 days ago

I haven't watched any of it, either so this comment is just as boring as watching paint dry...but I'm refraining from acting like I know what's going on

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    6 days ago

JBB , will you please delete Texans comments as trolling?  This is ridiculous.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.4    6 days ago
I know all I need I need to know John. From what I've seen, no facts have been  presented.

Then you know nothing. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago
I haven't watched a single minute of this Soviet style charade...

Such rhetorical projection is just too cute. That's the kind of ridiculous claim that can only come from the right wing conservative alternate universe where conservatives consistently praise Putin but claim democrats are somehow the fascist authoritarians. The ability to contort such that their heads, like some M.C. Escher drawing, can twist around into their own asses is truly fascinating.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    6 days ago
Then you know nothing. 

That's all most right wing conservatives "need to know" because rabid mobs don't act on facts and reality, they don't think for themselves, they foam at the mouth on command from their tiki torch bearing leaders.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
2.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago
I haven't watched a single minute of this Soviet style charade...

In that case how do you know it is a "Soviet style charade"?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    6 days ago

Every single time someone asks a question you can't answer, you go to your troll card.

Really getting old.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.11    6 days ago

fuck off. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.1.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hallux @2.1.10    6 days ago
In that case how do you know it is a "Soviet style charade"?

Has he seen many "Soviet style" political "charades" and assumes the January 6th committee must be similar, or has he watched the January 6th committee and assumed they must be a "Soviet style charade"? With how many right wing conservatives trust news from RT more than they do from the AP, it would seem the former more likely.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    6 days ago

expected reply, nothing new or even original.

yawn.

you need to do better to hold my attention.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    6 days ago
WHEN will the Democrats DO something about that?

Kind of need evidence, a trial and a conviction.  Something, it appears, the Democrats are sorely lacking.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.16  author  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.15    6 days ago

Democrats? All of the first panel of witnesses were Republicans. They all wanted Trump to win. They just would not commit crimes!

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
2.1.17  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.11    6 days ago
Really getting old.

A lot of things are getting old. A prime example being all the bitching that goes on with everyone of JBB's seeds and the truly ugly part is that you want democrats to do the ugly work for you so as to grease the path for DeSantis. T'is the stuff of cowardice. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.1.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1.16    6 days ago

And that is evidence in what way?  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.1.19  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.2    6 days ago

Where is he READING the live testimony that doesn't include the video? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.20  author  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.18    6 days ago

Their testimony was given in evidence today!

Sworn testimony before Congress. Evidence!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
2.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1.20    6 days ago

For a, as Greg called it, Soviet style charade maybe.  This isn't a trial.  This would be called "Testimony" in a trial.  Before the trial you need evidence.  Again, something that is sorely lacking given the number of "investigations" that have been.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.1.19    6 days ago
Where is he READING the live testimony that doesn't include the video

Well I guess you'd have to ask him but there are places that have the transcript(s)

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.1.23  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.22    6 days ago

WHY are you ignoring the LIVE part of the question Jim? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.1.24  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.22    6 days ago

Oh and BTFW, YOU are the one who claimed he was reading it. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.1.23    6 days ago

Who would give a flying fuck about the video? Other than you it seems..............and BTFW, I pointed out the possibility that he was reading it. And if you click the fucking links, there is no video that has to be watched. One CAN read after the fact in the real world. Now go ahead and, in your normal pestering fashion, concentrate on the live bullshit. It IS expected..

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.26  author  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago

You missed some powerful testimony today!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.27  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.25    6 days ago

You need to settle down and keep a civil tone!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @2.1.27    6 days ago

I would hope you are talking to the other person too with the BTFW crap right?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago
I haven't watched a single minute of this Soviet style charade...

That is a clear admission of pure bias.   You have no idea what they have presented yet you deem it a "Soviet style charade" where charade = "an absurd pretense intended to create a pleasant or respectable appearance".

Ignorance of the facts (hard video evidence and direct testimony by Republican witnesses) leads to poor conclusions.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @2.1.17    6 days ago

Quote me bitching or stuff it.

You don't have a damn clue as to what I want, but it sure is cheeky of you to make such erroneous assumptions.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
2.1.31  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.30    6 days ago

OK, here: "Quote me bitching or stuff it."

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @2.1.31    6 days ago
OK, here: " Quote me bitching or stuff it."

jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Guide
2.1.33  Sunshine  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    6 days ago
I haven't watched a single minute of this Soviet style charade...

Wonder how the cross examination in this show trial is going?  Has 'Pencil Neck" done his false narrative performance yet?  

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.1.34  afrayedknot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.25    6 days ago

“…after the fact in the real world…”

There in lies the dilemma…who’s facts and in who’s real world.

Seems too many live in an imaginary reality where the facts and thus the truth have somehow become subjective.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.1.35  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.30    6 days ago

“Quote me bitching or stuff it.

You don't have a damn clue as to what I want, but it sure is cheeky of you to make such erroneous assumptions.”

Asked and answered. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.36  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.34    6 days ago
There in lies the dilemma…who’s facts and in who’s real world.

The actual transcripts of the proceedings...................unless you're implying that the transcripts are getting doctored somehow. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.1.37  afrayedknot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.36    6 days ago

Read ‘em and weep…

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.38  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.35    6 days ago
“Quote me bitching or stuff it.

You don't have a damn clue as to what I want, but it sure is cheeky of you to make such erroneous assumptions.”

Asked and answered. 

Do take special note that I didn't ask him a question in my post, nor did he supply an answer to the imaginary question,  thus rendering your comment unnecessary and rather silly.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.1.39  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.38    6 days ago

“…thus rendering your comment unnecessary and rather silly.”

Could not convey it any better to every single response of yours, tex. Have you ever thought of seceding? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.40  author  JBB  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.37    6 days ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.41  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.39    6 days ago
Could not convey it any better to every single response of yours, tex.

Mimicking my comment is rather a grade-school move.

Have you ever thought of seceding?

Never. Have you ever thought of a germane question?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
2.1.43  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.41    6 days ago

“Have you ever thought of a germane question?”

Here’s a simple one: Have you ever offered a simple answer? Yes or No? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.44  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.43    6 days ago
Have you ever offered a simple answer? Yes or No? 

Yes.

next!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.1.45  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.25    6 days ago
Who would give a flying fuck about the video?

The adults who want to review of the evidence for themselves. 

One CAN read after the fact in the real world.

Again, WHY are you ignoring the LIVE part of the question Jim? 

Now go ahead and, in your normal pestering fashion, concentrate on the live bullshit. 

The 'live' part isn't bullshit, it's the predicate [look it up] of both the seed and my question. 

It IS expected..

Yes Jim, we've already had that conversation so it IS expected that you're pestered by being called out to support your comments.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
2.1.46  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @2.1.45    6 days ago

Sorry for your not understanding. The transcripts are of the live proceedings and therefore ARE the live commentary. That you, in your normal fashion, want to stick to your version of what I meant isn't my problem. You seem to be the only one hung on that and yes, that is bullshit.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
2.1.47  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.46    6 days ago
Sorry for your not understanding.

Your pretense that I don't understand is what's sorry Jim. 

The transcripts are of the live proceedings and therefore ARE the live commentary.

That is a ridiculously obtuse statement. jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

That you, in your normal fashion, want to stick to your version of what I meant isn't my problem.

I haven't mischaracterized your comments Jim, they flop on the merits. 

You seem to be the only one hung on that and yes, that is bullshit.

The comments here refute that. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
2.2  Hallux  replied to  JBB @2    6 days ago

They're busy chasing after FOX's latest squirrel, Colbert's film crew.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @2.2    6 days ago

Did Colbert's crew break the same law the alleged rioters are accused of?

Should they be prosecuted?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
2.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.1    6 days ago
Did Colbert's crew break the same law the alleged rioters are accused of?

No.

Should they be prosecuted?

No.

Anyone who is trying to claim some false equivalence between a handful of people and Triumph the insult dog doing a comedy bit and the violent attempted insurrection and vandalism of our Capital clearly isn't [deleted]

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
2.2.3  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.1    6 days ago

             ... Should they be prosecuted?

In an eye for an eye world, sure. But I choose to live in the more nuanced world.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3  author  JBB    6 days ago

What is worse than making false accusations of crimes like Trump and Guiliani did to those women in GA?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1  Ender  replied to  JBB @3    6 days ago

Missed this one. Had an appointment all afternoon. I came in where a woman was saying she had to leave her house for death threats.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Ender @3.1    6 days ago

Trump and Guiliani falsely accused her and her Mother of stealing the election for Biden. They were terrorized and still fear rabid Trumpists...

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
3.2  Dulay  replied to  JBB @3    6 days ago

Repeating those false accusations AFTER they've been investigated by multiple authorities. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  author  JBB    6 days ago

Today we learned Donald Trump, as President of the United States, demanded (actually ordered) Republican state officials in Arizona and Georgia to commit crimes on his behalf that subverted the US Constitution!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  author  JBB    6 days ago

Why are there not more Big G GOP Republicans like Arizona's Rusty Bowers anymore? He shined today!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1  Ender  replied to  JBB @5    6 days ago

I hate to admit it but I wish the republicans would get back to their roots. I would actually think about voting for one.

The crazies have taken over though.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Ender @5.1    6 days ago

The Confederate and Nazi flag wing of the gop...

No wonder the once Grand Old Party of Abe Lincoln is now known merely as "the gop"!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2  Dulay  replied to  JBB @5    6 days ago

What I find sad is that not one conservative here came forward and supported Rusty Bower's kind of patriotism today. That man walked the walk and not one of them embraced it. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  JBB  replied to  Dulay @5.2    6 days ago

Bowers' kind of backbone is rare in the gop.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dulay @5.2    6 days ago

Perhaps they felt that supporting a conservative from Arizona isn’t welcomed here.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
5.2.3  pat wilson  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.2    6 days ago
Perhaps they felt that supporting a conservative from Arizona isn’t welcomed here.

Lol, no one who participates here is concerned about being welcome.

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
5.2.4  GregTx  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.3    6 days ago

Ha, if they are they should definitely let it go.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
5.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.3    6 days ago

You’re probably right.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.2    6 days ago

What pat said. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6  author  JBB    6 days ago

Americans are today rightly repulsed by testimony that Trump had no compunction at all about falsely accusing innocent people of crimes and corruption! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @6    6 days ago
Americans are today rightly repulsed by testimony that Trump had no compunction at all about falsely accusing innocent people of crimes and corruption! 

The irony here is top notch. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    6 days ago

Can you articulate why? Because, "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness", is plain enough!

Trump / Guiliani knowingly made false claims.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Ender  replied to  JBB @6.1.1    6 days ago

And put people in harms way.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  JBB  replied to  Ender @6.1.2    6 days ago

And, that person's Mother and Grandmother!

That was the worst of it for me. Trump did not care how innocent people suffered or were impacted negatively if he got his way.

Shades of Leona Helmsley, Queen of Mean!

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
6.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  JBB @6.1.3    6 days ago

How many rolls of paper towels can one toss?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Dulay  replied to  JBB @6.1.1    6 days ago

I doubt that you will get a reply, it seems to be all about hit and run for him of late. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
8  igknorantzrulz    6 days ago

I did not watch todays program, but reading the commentary is what is so revealing about the “right”, and it is distinctly disturbing to me, that they refuse to watch, for many, basically forced testimony. We did not see Barr in real time, as he acts like some sort of hero now, while in fact he is truly a coward. How many, if not forced to, would be up there testifying to the ACTUAL TRUTH, if not threatened with possibly real repercussions?? Thus WHY, they should be witnessed First hand, and not via Fox like filters that bias what they can afford to shove down and into the gullibles who would choose to HIDE from the full context that is required to comprehend the ACTUAL TRUTH ABOUT THESE MATTERS!  You embarrass yourself with this charade, and ought to be a tad concerned about how Trump HAS, DOES, and will CONTINUE TO PLAY YOU, until you get off the Trump Cult Cut Train of Thoughtlessness, cause it is FCKN embarrassing just watching so many squirming attempting to defend the former worm in our White House, that has been spray painted and tainted forever, because people were too stupid, to realize they are not clever enough to see what those who could, rightfully pointed out to them, and not just because they could, but because they foresaw what eventually WOULD HAPPEN.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
9  igknorantzrulz    5 days ago

And what individual, truly thinks, they could possibly learn more from written word, than actual TESTIMONY? Cause Trump SURELY was aware, when his lawyers had him do ONLY a written answer booklet to questions posed during the Mueller investigation.