Hundreds of masked members of the white suprematist, neo-fascist, extremist group Patriot Front marched across areas of Downtown Washington, D.C
there was a spattering of confederate flags among the scum
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Hundreds of masked members of the white suprematist, neo-fascist, extremist group Patriot Front marched across areas of Downtown Washington, D.C. earlier this morning, in the lead up to today’s celebrations for the Fourth of July. Members of the group gathered and chanted hate
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Happy 4th ! /s
these people are why I own and carry firearms ...
Theyve got more people than Hitler started with.
Picture on left....Peaceful white men riding a subway..mass leftist poutrage
Picture on right..Black man, unprovoked, kills a white woman...leftist silence
LOL. You are literally defending white supremacists.
show where
They have other plans for her.
You can't show where I am defending anyone, but we can definitely show where you have not condemned an actual nazi in your party in Maine
Platner is a terrible candidate, but deeming him a Nazi is partisan bullshit. His tattoo is weak evidence. So far, I can find no evidence that shows he supports neo-Nazi / Nazi ideology. That he has ever associated with any such groups. Nothing. Just the tattoo.
So unless you can deliver evidence that the guy is a Nazi, your allegation is bullshit.
The Maine Ds fucked up by selecting him. He does not have the character or history to be a Senator IMO. But deeming him a Nazi because of a tattoo is partisan nonsense.
John, did you know that Nazis, who want to exterminate Jews and minorities, are "Peaceful white men"?
You say this only because of the politics. If you met some one on the street wearing a symbol inked into their skin representing something you found reprehensible, how would you think of them?
Many leftists have zero problem claiming conservatives are white supremacists, nazis, racist, etc, etc...with zero proof, but when one of their own sorts a SS tattoo, all of a sudden they are worried about you providing proof.
Hypocrits
A claim with zero justification. In other words, bullshit.
If I saw someone wearing a reprehensible symbol, and that is all I had to go on, then that would lead me to think poorly of them.
A rather normal human reaction.
So if I saw someone sporting a swastika, or wearing MAGA gear, or a tattooed head with symbolic evil tattoos, or ... I will naturally presume what they must believe and judge accordingly until I get more information.
In this case, we have more than simply a tattoo. So focus on the actual circumstances of this case instead of contriving a fantasy.
Second answer. I have stated since day one that Platner is a failure of the D party. Not because of the tattoo, but because of his history. Buy a vowel.
Really? What more do you think there is? How long did he sport that tattoo?
You don't know? It has been all over the news for months!! Go do some research on Platner and answer your own question.
If you have something honest thoughtful to offer, then maybe I will respond.
Ahh, "partisan nonsense" then?....
Find out what is going on with Platner and then offer something of value rather than witless quips.
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Isn't it amazing how many leftists defend Platner? They don't care about the tattoo or his coinciding beliefs. All they care is power.
You never hear them say "When we regain the House and/or Senate", you always hear them say "When we regain POWER".
Those caveats usually include "I don't follow the campaign", or I need more information", or "I will research it more", when you know damn well they know exactly what Platner is about.
Well maybe you can tell us what you have learned about Platner?
Never went to the Philippines and woke up with a tattoo you don't remember anything about?
There's the excuse I was expecting....
When I write that Platner was a bad choice, a failure of the Maine Ds, how does your brain translate that into defending Platner?
Let's see. For starters, his tattoo that he claimed he never knew the meaning of, the kidnapping of an old girlfriend, the profile on a known pedo site that he kept up until just recently when it made news, saying women that get raped probably deserved it, saying the Army soldier should have died when he saved his platoon and getting shot several times in the process, sending lewd chats to women while he is married. That is just off the top of my mind.
"Never went to the Philippines and woke up with a tattoo you don't remember anything about?"
Went there at least 20 times during my career and go back almost every year...never getting a drop of ink anywhere on my body. Unlike your nazi candidate, I have morals and ethics.
Well at least someone has done some level of research and recognizes that Platner's tattoo is not the only factor at play here.
Your positions are of course exaggerated (and there was no need to exaggerate since the facts are damning enough) but, as I noted, at least you have gone beyond the tattoo.
ChatGPT toning down your exaggerations:
Ok what do you think of the intelligence of the average Marine? They went out, got drunk and had skulls tattooed on their chest, death heads just like pirate flags. there were no SS bars. And there are official Marine tattoos that include a skull...
he was drunk and would not let her leave, it's not kidnapping until you are charged and convicted.
The President is a known pedophile that doesn't even deny some of things he did running little girl beauty pageants but denies the obvious Epstein insulations which are much more believable
Well he isn't alone among many cultures, again including the POTUS. He was taped saying "grab em by the pussy" they love it or some such garbage and he lost several cases in court to that women for sexual assault and defamation.
A very harsh opinion of US Army and Nat guard trash that almost every Marine I have ever known agrees with, but I don't know who he was talking about.
Is that a crime somewhere?
Yeah I forgot that you married into the Tagalog family which is why you "can't be prejudiced".../s
Neither have I, treated too many infections from bad needles.
I live in Texas, so no he isn't even on the radar in Texas but maybe he should be...he'd fit right in
because he's probably better than the convicted felon, accused pedophile, convicted sexual assaulter, POS in the White House that cheated on all three of his wives
with them and God knows how many hookers and under aged girls or just the average legal aged masseuse that Jeffery Epstein would lend him.
Not to mention all the businesses he bankrupted deliberately or because he would not honor a construction contract. Honor is a foreign concept to him.
He thinks it's for fools like you and I.
My morals and ethics, despite my many shortcomings, draw the line when it comes to supporting him.
Happy July 4th weekend
Wow!!!!talk about defending someone.
"he was drunk and would not let her leave, it's not kidnapping until you are charged and convicted"
Ah, yes...yet another defense of the indefensible.
"The President is a known pedophile"
Of course you must get your news from left wing podcasters like Joy Reid. You defend a kidnapper because he was never charged, but you accuse someone of being a pedo with no proof only because you like or dislike the people you are defending/accusing.
"but I don't know who he was talking about."
Yea OK. I guess my post about getting news from left wing podcasters is becoming more and more true.
"Yeah I forgot that you married into the Tagalog family which is why you "can't be prejudiced".../"
Nice subtle insult but coming from where it did.....
After all the rest of your rant, one thing remains constant. He is and still will be your president for the next 2years. I think it will be a hard, long road to staying sane for some leftists. I hope there qill be enough sky after they get done screaming at it.
Ok what do you think of the intelligence of the average Marine?
He’s so stupid. he never knew the meaning of the symbol he branded his body with. Vote platner to be one of the most powerful people in the country!
That’s what team Nazi tattoo is reduced to claiming….
never mind his voluminous posting on Reddit about wwii history and military symbology, he’s too dumb to know what he did! And forget all the people who he told what it was, they are part of the conspiracy. His former campaign manager who said he knew what what it was? also part of the conspiracy,
he’s just an incredibly stupid marine who, despite obsessing over military history, had no idea what he put on his body and is surrounded by people engaged in a giant conspiracy to show he’s not the world’s biggest idiot and didn’t walk around for almost two decades without knowing what he branded himself with, vote platner!
Which is more likely?
the ex marine/mlllitary contractor who spent his time posting about military history /symbology etc didn’t know what was tattooed on his body for almost twenty years but his girlfriends , with no millitary background whatsoever, independently knew what it was before he did.
Because if you believe platner, he didn’t know he had a Nazi tattoo until October of 2025, while two ex- girlfriend sent texts, now published, about his Nazi tattoo before the tattoo became public knowledge.
i can’t imagine publicly claiming to believe the military know it all didn’t know what it was, while ignoring that two ex girlfriends did and that their story that he told told them what it was is, by far, the most likely way for two different girlfriends to have learned what it was before platner claims to have known.
This tattoo controversy is ridiculous. It would make sense if there were evidence that Platner favored the Nazis. But given not even a shred of evidence (coupled with his public positions against facism) this is just more low-grade partisan political crap.
Partisan critics are focusing on a tattoo rather than his womanizing and his Reddit posts indicating misogyny, general bigotry, homophobia, sanism, racism, and anti-capitalism. The guy made some pretty damning posts, but best I can tell not a single one suggested a favorable view of fascism.
Why the focus on a tattoo? Seems minor compared to his other negatives.
Platner is a terrible choice for the US Senate. But a tattoo that resembles a Nazi symbol is not the reason.
Apparently, this is what the tattoo looked like:
Do you believe he just learned what his tattoo was in October 2025?
well, duh
I do not care; this is a stupid thing for you to focus on.
Lol. Of course not. Especially given how vociferously you attacked progressives for claiming is a Elon Musk a Nazi for waiving his arm awkwardly, right?
A guy who pushes anti-semitic conspiracies brands himself with an SS tattoo? What's a little SS branding among friends, says the new progressive movement.. Who cares? There's the most moderate member of the Senate to defeat...
Get a grip.
My point, obviously, is that it is absurd for you to focus on his tattoo rather than the real factors that make him a bad candidate. Your criticism is misguided and ridiculous.
why do they have to cover their faces? Are they that ugly? Do they have something to hide? Afraid of losing their jobs?
Because they are coward reich wing trump supporters.
www.usnews.com /news/world/articles/2026-07-04/masked-patriot-front-white-nationalists-stage-july-4-march-through-dc
Masked Patriot Front White Nationalists Stage July 4 March Through DC
U.S. News StaffJune 29, 2026 2-2 minutes 7/4/2026
WASHINGTON, July 4 (Reuters) - Hundreds of masked members of the white nationalist group Patriot Front marched through parts of Washington, D.C., on Saturday ahead of the Independence Day festivities planned for the evening.
The group posted on social media that it had arrived in the capital with about 400 members, and Reuters photographers saw hundreds of people dressed in Patriot Front outfits traveling on D.C. Metro trains.
Videos posted on various social media platforms and shared on Patriot Front's own Telegram channel showed the group marching to drummers near the U.S. Capitol building while wearing khaki pants and caps, blue shirts, white face coverings and sunglasses. Many were carrying the group's flag, Confederate flags, and variations of the American flag, at times chanting "Reclaim America."
Around midday, they boarded Metro trains and exited at New Carrollton, Maryland, in Washington's northeast suburbs.
The Patriot Front, known for its uniforms, face masks and flash mob-style demonstrations, formed in 2017 after the deadly "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, breaking off from the Vanguard America white supremacist group that was at the center of that protest, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
A manifesto on the Patriot Front website says, "Democracy has failed this once great nation," and a "hard reset" is needed to "return to the traditions and virtues of our forefathers," identifying them as European settlers.
(Reporting by David Lawder and Jana Winter; Editing by Sergio Non and Rod Nickel)
Copyright 2026 Thomson Reuters .
(Emphasis added)
We know what that means.
Patriot Front is an offshoot of the neo-Nazi group Vanguard America. This link contains a detailed examination of Patriot Front:
I just read "The Secret War Against Hate" by Professor Stephen J. Ross, a new book that is an excellent examination of American neo-Nazi and neo-Fascist groups and efforts made to combat them. It is well worth reading.
trump pulled the FBI and the DHS off all investigations and surveillance of the rwnj neo-nazi terrorist organizations ...
Hundreds of masked white supremacist, neo-Fascists marched across Washington, D.C., some waving Confederate flags.
Welcome to Trump's America.
tossing a 200 string of 1.5 inch firecrackers into that group and watching those incels shit themselves would have been a lot of fun ...
While I don't agree with their cause I do see how what they are doing is covered as a first amendment activity. It also looks like other groups may learn what a peaceful protest actually looks like.
Apparently, you admire them. Their goal is to take power, exterminate all Jews and kick all minorities out of the country. Peaceful my fucking ass.
Your comment is one of the most, if not the most disgusting I ever have read in all of my years on this website.
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I think they went looking for a fight
You think we should learn from neo-Nazis.
Is the protest peaceful?
Who gives a fuck?
You seem to disagree with it . Explain
You are trolling.
It is quite obvious that G2, being the descendant of individuals killed by Nazis, holds that Nazis (and variants) do not deserve any benefit of the doubt.
You are clearly trying to inflame the situation.
Bullshit. Was the protest peaceful?
There are no reports of violence that I know of.
Why do you need me to shore that up for you?
as long as there has been no violence or vandalism , whats the problem ?
i think that is where people actually start to have issues , if those2 things happen , otherwise very easy to ignore because someone is being a dumbass.
if it is going to be shut down someone because someone finds something offensive or the people are being dumbasses , this site alone would never exist .
Imagine being a descendant of family members who were murdered by Nazis.
Peaceful or not, I can easily see how the contemporary existence of Nazis is extremely offensive to such an individual. You can see that too, right?
I do not blame such people for being offended. Do you?
I'm sure if it went to court their 1st amendment rights would be upheld. I don't see anyone here talking about legality. That's not the point. The point is that hundreds of fucking neo-Nazis were marching around the nations capital on our 250th anniversary. Gsquared expressed his disgust about that, a perfectly normal reaction for any decent American, especially one with ties to the Holocaust, and yet, for some reason you took issue with that and decide to troll him. You know who does that? People on the side of the neo-Nazis.
I one hundred percent do not agree with these people.
I am curious where your outrage is when left wing Antifa destroy property, assault and kill innocent people, pretty much on a daily basis?
Dont have to imagine because it did happen to extended ( to me ) family members , and i do see how one can be offended and dont blame them one bit ,
But simply being offended is not a good basis to limit anyones rights in this country , once you start doing that , your own beliefs that others could find offensive are on the table as well to be regulated and legislated .
It is simply better IMO to exercise one of those unenumerated rights we all have often not thought of and undiscussed , the right to choose whom we associate with .
Let others make fools of themselves with their offenses and beliefs .
I agree with this.
Nonetheless, if someone has a legitimate reason (especially one that is so personal) to be offended by the existence of Nazis and similar, it accomplishes no good purpose to needle them to admit that the Nazis (or similar) have a right to exist and to express their free speech.
Difference of opinion i guess.
And be that as it may , it has been my observation of late that it is not so much the arguments ( political or social ) offered so much as it is in how being told "NO" is being handled , and how the rejection of beliefs is taken .
Where is the difference of opinion? Are you suggesting that it is valuable to needle someone to admit that hate groups have the right to assemble, etc. once the individual has expressed a deep personal offense to their existence? Other than that, I think we agreed. So what is the difference?
Nazis march peacefully. Anyone can walk around peacefully. Today. You wanna applaud them for that?
I had to go back and re read our exchange , we do have points of agreement , but being the individuals we are ,have different perspectives and to different ends .
My take on what you have posted is no one should say anything offensive, what you call needling , is actually trolling , looking for a response , and i say good luck with that because offense is so easily found even in innocent conversation, my take is no matter how offensive someone can be in what they say, let them speak their mind and expose who they are . I think that falls under the auspices of though one has the right , should they exercise that right ? this is where i think we have a difference of opinion.
No, that is not what I was saying. You have generalized my comment to the point where the meaning has now changed.
I was speaking specifically about a historically outrageous affront on humanity (the Holocaust), an individual's personal reaction to it based on his ancestors being victims, and the pointless needling of that individual to admit that neo Nazis have the right to assemble, etc.
Well there is another difference of opinion / perspective then , as you say i was speaking in generalities , and you are speaking in specifics .
The important point is that my comments were about this specific circumstance. In general, as I have noted, freedom to assemble / freedom of speech applies to everyone ... even the most despicable.
Just making sure you see my comment was the truth
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It was trolling nonetheless. Even worse than trying to blame Renee Good for her murder. You were poking in a highly offensive personal area just to be annoying.
It is one thing to hold someone to account for their words (and their vague inferences). It is entirely different to poke at old personal wounds. Imagine if you had a child who died in a car accident driven by a fellow teenager and someone made comments along the lines of 'it was her own fault for trusting the driver' or 'improper parenting' or ...
Those comments might be true; that does not make them appropriate (or valuable).
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It seems that is not the case
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A lie
Another lie. You made arguments trying to point out the mistakes Good made and noted that if she had not done these things (e.g. block the roadway), she would not have been killed. True statements, but a slimy argument that she was partly responsible for her murder.
Show us all the highly offensive personal area that you think I am poking at.
Good practice: don't defend hate groups.
Well if you want me to be "specific ", patriot front , is not something i would choose to be associated with on their specifc stances , just as i choose not to associate with what passes for democrats or republicans these days . all a matter of individual personal perspective .
My own opinion is both are full of "post turtles " and posturers.
Its interesting that you find some philosophical or practical similarity between neo-nazis and democrats and republicans
John , in general i simply see a common denominator , all 3 desire and chase political power and influence .
Pretty much on a daily basis? I guess you're living on a different planet than I am. I don't think I've heard about any so-called Antifa-related violence for a few years. That's not to say there couldn't have been some, the daily basis thing strikes me as a ridiculous claim.
At any rate, unlike Trump, and apparently a great many of his supporters, I absolutely support prosecuting actual crimes, especially violent ones.
Wrong again....
8 Antifa Cell Members Sentenced to a Combined 450 Years in Prison for Terrorist Attack on ICE Facility - HSToday
I looked that up.
As long as the Justice Department and FBI Dallas got it right, and to be honest I don't have a lot of confidence in that at the moment, but if they did, then great.
After reading that I kind of remember hearing about it last summer, but still, the on 'a daily basis' thing is a stretch.
I'm curious, were you outraged when Trump pardoned the J6ers? What about the attempted fund to reward them with public money, or about any of his other pardons of duly convicted criminals? How about his pardon of the massive drug trafficker Juan Hernandez at the same time he was having the military murder people in the Caribbean for supposed (unevidenced) drug trafficking without due process?
Interesting if your questions were to be directly answered. Not holding my breath.
Probably no less outraged than you were of Biden (or his autopen) the multiple amount of people he did, including his own family for crimes committed in the past, whether known about or not.
" having the military murder people in the Caribbean for supposed (unevidenced) drug trafficking without due process?"
Your opinion but obviously you do not know what a go fast is and what they are primarily used for
fantastical thinking?
Of course your credibility is yours to do with what you wish.
Wait a minute...I thought ANTIFA was an idea only, not actual group/groups.
Yes, I exaggerated when I said daily, but the fact remains ANTIFA is a violent organization that has committed many violent acts, including assault and property damage. I asked CHat GTP to list the major violent acts over the past 10 years.
Of course, this is not an entire list as it seems like it only goes to around 2023, but it does not include the recent riots on the Portland ICE facility and the assault on the TPUSA reporter Savannah Hernandez
From chat GTP...
Happy reading
"
. Street violence
Across multiple cities, Antifa‑aligned individuals have engaged in assaults, clashes with right‑wing groups, and attacks on police.
2019–2021 Portland: Hundreds of documented incidents of rioting, assaults, bear‑spray attacks, and improvised weapons used against police and opposing demonstrators. Portland recorded 187 civil‑disorder incidents tied to Antifa‑linked groups (2020–2021).
2020 nationwide protests: CDC and DOJ reporting documented 875 civilian injuries and 320 police injuries attributed to Antifa‑linked individuals.
2. Property destruction
Includes vandalism, looting, arson, and destruction of government facilities.
Portland federal courthouse (2020): Repeated arson attempts, fireworks, and incendiary devices used against the building.
California (2021): 45 civil‑disorder incidents including 20 arson attacks and 15 highway blockades.
Nationwide (2020): Estimated $120 million in property damage attributed to Antifa‑linked groups during unrest.
3. Weapons violations
Antifa‑aligned individuals have been documented using:
Knives, chains, bricks, pipes, hammers, fireworks, Molotov cocktails, homemade incendiary devices.
Bear spray, shields, metal poles, tactical gear seized at protests. These patterns are documented in police reports and analyses by CSIS and BBC.
4. Targeted attacks
Rare but high‑profile cases include:
Tacoma ICE facility attack (2019): Willem Van Spronsen, a self‑described Antifa supporter, attacked the facility with a rifle and incendiary devices; killed by police.
Portland (2021): A civilian was killed when an Antifa‑aligned individual opened fire at a pro‑Trump rally.
Kenosha (2020): A police officer was shot and killed by an Antifa‑linked individual during protests.
5. Federal extremist cases
Federal agencies documented:
143 federal cases (2023) involving Antifa‑linked extremist activity, including plotting attacks on government facilities.
38% of domestic extremist plots (2022) linked to Antifa, with 21% targeting law enforcement (DHS).
That's all you had to say Chief.
And I did
So your answer is no. Just what I expected.
Biden didn't do anything close to what Trump has done. Most of Biden's large number of clemency grants were commutations for low-level, non-violent offences like marijuana possession in an age when marijuana is being decriminalized in many parts of the country. Though he did make a massive fool out of himself with the Hunter pardon after saying he wouldn't. But that still didn't inspire outrage in me, more like cringeworthy embarrassment for him. And no, I don't miss him. He turned out to not be the man for the moment, as he allowed his Atty Gen to piddle around for so long that Trump got away with his crimes against the nation.
Trump, on the other hand, has been corruptly pardoning those he perceives as political allies, from violent j6ers to wealthy white collar crooks, people he probably expects to support him in return, the next time he tries to subvert the republic. And we all know it's coming, probably starting this fall with the midterms.
By now everyone knows about those multi-engine fast runners, but that's irrelevant. If you think blowing those boats up the way we did was all fine and dandy, then you obviously have no respect for the judicial processes established by the Constitution, specifically intended to prevent tyrannical actions by the government, one of the things that made our country great and respected the world over. Formerly, at least.
You did not answer Dig's questions. Instead you deflected to Biden and denied Trump's (Hegseth's) bombing of boats in the Caribbean (and killing those who were rendered helpless). This is arguably an unlawful killing and possibly a war crime. Serious stuff. You just dismiss it.
there is some sort of misconception that trump did not make questionable pardons in his FIRST term. He did
Trump’s first‑term pardons (2017–2021) drew heavy scrutiny because many bypassed the traditional Department of Justice review process and benefited political allies, corrupt officials, and people with personal ties to him. Below is a structured list of the most widely described “questionable” pardons , based strictly on reporting from reputable sources. Please confirm details with a trusted source.
The most controversial first‑term pardons
Each item begins with a Guided Link so you can dig deeper into any specific case.
Duncan Hunter — Former California congressman who stole campaign funds for personal use (family vacations, gifts, etc.). Trump pardoned him after his guilty plea and 11‑month sentence.
Chris Collins — New York congressman convicted of insider trading and lying to the FBI. He was the first member of Congress to endorse Trump.
Phil Lyman — Utah state legislator convicted for leading an illegal ATV protest through protected Native American archaeological land.
Blackwater contractors — Nicholas Slatten, Paul Slough, Evan Liberty, and Dustin Heard, convicted for the 2007 Baghdad massacre that killed more than a dozen Iraqi civilians. Their pardons caused international outrage.
George Papadopoulos — Trump campaign adviser convicted in the Russia investigation for lying to federal agents.
Michael Flynn — Former National Security Adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia. Flynn was a central figure in the Mueller probe.
Paul Manafort — Trump’s former campaign chairman convicted of tax fraud, bank fraud, and foreign lobbying violations . His pardon erased a lengthy sentence.
Roger Stone — Longtime Trump ally convicted of obstruction, witness tampering, and lying to Congress about the 2016 campaign’s interest in WikiLeaks.
Charles Kushner — Father of Jared Kushner, convicted of tax evasion, witness retaliation, and illegal campaign contributions . His case was one of the most personal pardons Trump issued.
Why these pardons were considered “questionable”
Trump bypassed the Office of the Pardon Attorney , which traditionally vets clemency requests. Only 25 of 237 first‑term clemency grants went through the normal DOJ process.
Many recipients were political allies , donors , or people with direct personal ties to Trump.
Legal experts noted a pattern of “pay‑to‑play” access , where well‑connected individuals received clemency while thousands of ordinary applicants waited in backlog.
Quick comparison table
By the way this is not at all a complete list.
In other words all the uproar about Biden took place well after Trump had made unwarranted pardons , including for his son in laws father.
I do. I spent many months doing drug ops in the Caribbean and never did I see a go fast "fishing boat". Every single one that was stopped was running drugs.
I can assure you that if those people were stopped, charged and convicted, leftists would cry that they were stopped in international waters and should be released into the US as an apology for being stopped in the first place.
Based on a cynical caricature of those to your left. The claims continue to be exaggerated and often ridiculous.
Intimidation.
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I do agree with you, so long as they remain a peaceful protest then they have the right to assemble and protest. Nobody has to agree with their cause or like what they have to say, but they do have the right to assemble and protest.
But I can understand the seed, they are after all so very scary. I mean, come on... 400 people out of a population of 345 to 350 million? They are something like .0001% of the population. So very scary...
Bet they appreciate every bit of notoriety and publicity they can get, just like seeds on the internet that spread mention of them. I'm sure they like that so much better than being ignored.
Seems they come out at certain times because they want their fifteen minutes of fame. And of course, there's always some folks that give it to them
My grandfather's family was murdered by the Nazis. [deleted][✘]
My uncle was killed by the Nazis. So I get pissed off when a political party decides branding themselves with a symbol of those that killed him is no big deal.
I guess we all react differently.
I find Nazism and those that brand themselves with their symbols incredibly toxic and believe they have no place in our nation’s leadership. Obviously, a lot of people now disagree with that.
funny how the maga neo-nazis waited for most of the WWII vets to die off before demonstrating in public ...
Good point. They waited 80 years before they started marching in the street with their swastikas alongside their confederate flags in defense of monuments to confederate slavers who owned current black Americans ancestors.
But we're not supposed to believe our eyes, the new FBI told us so and so did a bunch of halfwits on the internet.
If someone told me a decade ago that this was how it was going to turn out with Donald Trump winning the 2016 election I would have told them they're crazy and that even Trump, as stupid and incompetent as he is, couldn't fuck things up this bad. Sadly, I stand corrected.
We have one on this site that thinks that antifa is as bad as white supremacy
I think there is more than one .
that's why they have to hide their identities? Because of the notoriety and publicity?
Because they knew their grandfathers would be ashamed of them
The group likes the notoriety, not the individuals. As far as the individuals, much like protestors in Black Lives Matter or Antifa protests, they cover their faces so that they don't have to try to defend themselves one on one if recognized and outed, and perhaps to hide their identities from law enforcement should things go sideways.
the SPLC funded “white nationalists” sure are polite.
imagine what would happen if this were a jewish person wearing a yarmulke on a train full of democrats going to a protest…
Now you are a bizarre conspiracy theorist, - you are making twisted progress.
It's a fact that the SPLC is the largest funder of white supremacy groups in the nation. Even you can't dispute that.
So, yes, it's more than reasonable that this group, that only seems to exist to parade when Dems need talking points, is one of theirs. I'm sure we will find out in time.
Is Patel laying down on the job ?
Some nut case on a You Tube live feed is claiming the Democrats and the deep state are making thousands of people disappear to make the state fair seem empty. These are your people .
Has the First Amendment been repealed? What crime have they committed?
You can use that start to describe half the new Democratic nominees for Congress.
Are you telling us that Trumps FBI is incapable of exposing this vile conspiracy?
More Malarky.
Only an FBI run by incompetent boobs like Patel, Blanch, Bondi and Trump would sue an agency that was feeding them good intel on domestic terrorism for a decade.
So then you will admit they are a pretty big contributor to white supremacist funding. Maybe not the largest, but do play a part.
The SPLC funds white supremacist groups to make themselves look relevant.
Hmmmmm.chat GTP disagrees with you..
"No publicly available evidence shows that the FBI paid the SPLC so that the SPLC could pay informants. The reporting and indictments describe SPLC paying informants with donor funds, and the FBI separately paying its own informants, but not the FBI funding SPLC’s informant program.
What the sources actually say
The search results show two distinct facts:
1. SPLC paid informants inside extremist groups using donor money
Federal indictments allege the SPLC covertly funneled $3–4.1 million between 2014 and 2023 to confidential “field sources” embedded in extremist organizations. These payments were allegedly routed through clandestine bank accounts and fictitious entities
Across Fox News, USA Today, AOL, DOJ releases, and independent analyses, none report that the FBI transferred money to the SPLC or used the SPLC as a pass‑through to pay informants. The allegations focus on SPLC using donor funds, not federal funds."
They were still paying informants and turning the information over to the FBI and law enforcement.
the reason this administration is different is because the SLPLC refused to remove several right wing groups from it's "hate list".
We are not in a fight of right and wrong but ideologies and definitions according to the current Party.
The SPLC is being charged for the way they used donor money. Much of that money over the years went to leaders or insiders of right wing groups to cause trouble, which gave them a reason to keep them on their "terrorist" list.
"the SLPLC refused to remove several right wing groups from it's "hate list"."
Do you think "Moms for liberty" is a terrorist group, and if you do what EXACTLY have they done to make you feel that way?
Wrong again.
They were not labeled terrorists or a terrorist group.
They were labeled an extremist group for opposing Covid regulations in schools, book banning, opposition to discussions about race and LGBTQ issues.
This is not your neighborhood PTA that knows and recognizes your children.
Ah, yes...left wing word semantics.
Trump designated ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist group. Do you agree with that?
" Some members of Moms for Liberty chapters have also been accused -- and in at least one case , convicted — of harassment"
Such violent behavior s/. Harassment is not a good way to go about life, but hardly a reason to list as an extremist group.
The only ones buying their bullshit are rightwing nutjob conspiracy theorists, the case against the SPLC is going to just make Patel and the FBI look like the idiots they are now. What a fucking shit show.
Words have meaning and consequences.
In theory yes, but where are they? Where is ther headquarters, their bank accounts, their fundraising?
What in the world has the Patel Keystone Kops done to reign them in?
Has it hurt their feelings?
has the "extremists " label hurt "Mom's for Liberty"?
No, It actually gave them a temporary bump until women figured out is was just for white people....
Ex federal prosecutors are a dime a dozen now after the Trump purges, have opined that the government's case for wire fraud and bank fraud and conspiracy to launder is a wet paper sack that won't hold up in court because you cannot prove the intent of an entire corporation. The only chance the government might have is making false statements to a financial institution but even that is a slippery slope.
They had a much better shot at vigilantism which SPLC pretty much admits to, but the FBI benefitted from.
Parts of this thread were removed for no value, and nasty back and forth. Knock it off. Only warning.
Okay, every time you refer to ChatGPT you call it chat GTP. After seeing this about ½ dozen times from you, it is time for this:
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What good have they done?
Its going to be raining in DC for the next 2 - 21/2 hours. It will be interesting to see what Trump decides to do.
Trump says that if we could storm the beaches at Normandy , he can give a speech tonight even if its at 2 am. (true)
He's an idiot, caused a health crisis, misquoted the Declaration of Independence but it was ok, almost no one saw it.
TOO MUCH NEO NAZI SYMPATHY HERE. I AM CLOSING THE ARTICLE.