Auto-Biography 3 - "A Promised Land"
Last night the man who once tried to transform America sat down with Scott Pelley to promote his new book "A Promised Land." You may ask who on earth would have the conceit to write 3 auto-biographies? Not even Winston Churchill would allow himself such vainglory! It's none other than the great divider, the man who had such resentment for America and such hate to be the first president to call Americans such things as "clingers." It was the one and only Barak Obama, articulate and self-righteous as always.
Here is an excerpt from his hate-filled new book:
“It was as if my very presence in the White House had triggered a deep-seated panic, a sense that the natural order had been disrupted,” Obama writes in one of the book’s several candid discussions of race, according to excerpts reported on by CNN Thursday. “Which is exactly what Donald Trump understood when he started peddling assertions that I had not been born in the United States and was thus an illegitimate president.”
Of course Barak Obama could never have been president (not once, but twice) without the decency and fairness of white voters. Any presidential candidate would need an absolute minimum of 39% of the white vote to win the White House.
Pelley, a big fan of the former president, asked about the current President's refusal to concede over election irregularities. Obama responded with “I’m more troubled by the fact that other Republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this, are humoring him in this fashion. It is one more step in delegitimizing not just the incoming Biden administration, but democracy generally. And that’s a dangerous path.”
To no ones surprise, there was no follow up on the left wing msm's refusal to give any legitimacy to Trump's Presidency or the unbridled resistance to it, not to mention all the land mines that Obama himself left for the novice President. Was that a dangerous path? Barak?
One other thing: Last night violent forces from BLM and antifa attacked peaceful Trump protestors in what sadly passes for the nation's capitol.
Question: will anything be done about it?
Will anyone be prosecuted?
BLM and antifa doesn't seem to think so.
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It's always nice to remember what it was like four years ago.
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no wall, no infrastructure rebuild, no better, cheaper healthcare ...
expanded corporate welfare and tax breaks for the ultra wealthy and almost 250K americans taking a dirt nap due to the complete incompetence of the top elected official in DC. buh-bye loser
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This conversation is about the most divisive and devious human being to occupy the White House.
What were the Proud Boys, the Groyper Boys, the Oath Keepers, and Infowars doing at the MAGA rally?
Did the real Trump supporters surround Alex Jones and tell him to leave because he was not wanted? No they listened to him give a speech through an amplified sound system and then cheered him when he was done.
Tens of thousands of people, all living in an alternate reality thanks to Donald Trump . I call them The Magachurian Voters.
no worries, that useless scumbag will be evicted from the white supremacist house in 2 months, one way or another ...
You are on the side of the violent thugs.
You defend them.
Shame on you!
So, you do want to discuss Trump.
Cant answer my question , eh?
MAGA posted a video of the Trump march through Washington yesterday. Not sure why he wanted to do that , because it revealed the biggest collection of morons since the last Trump campaign rally. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory about the election. And Trump is goading them on. Its all good fun to him.
Sounds like you completely ignored what John said.
No, John, I can't tell identify every soul who was at the rally. What I can tell you is the radical left, specifically BLM & antifa was responsible for the violence. They are never punished and only they can get away with it.
Let's face it John, we all know it. You know who I blame? That POS who's writing another book about himself.
Do you have any idea how many books Trump has written about himself? I didnt think so. You seem to know almost nothing about your hero.
Another 'original' thought Tex ?
Vic, why do so many of the most fervent Trump supporters appear to be brainwashed ?
John, we could ask the same question of progressives, but we know the answer - some professor taught them to think that way!
Question: will anything be done about it?
Will anyone be prosecuted?
Only if it can be done from a golf course.
It won't be done by Muriel Bowser
She was probably too busy recuperating from that Biden/Harris "victory party" she went to last week in Delaware even though she'd designated the state as "high risk" for her serfs.
It is amazing how fast she got her fat ass to jaunt over there. Why would the residents of DC elect such an ideologue? Could they be ideologues themselves? Is that why they decided not to put Andy McCabe on trial in DC? Is that why the local businesses in DC felt the need to board up their store fronts in the event that Donald Trump won?
It's just another step toward Obama's vision of transforming America to his liking. Btw ... neither Biden nor Harris publicly condemned Saturday's Antifa/BLM thugs. Seems they like it, too.
They don't dare condemn them.
So what? No one on the right condemned Saturday's Proud Boy/Alt+Right thugs either. Seems they like it too.
Why would anyone condemn them? That would be like condemning Franco for causing WWII.
BLM and antifa are responsible for the violence last night. We all know they won't be punished for it. They know it too!
taking a beating for not accepting the results of a free and fair election is getting off easy.
Because they came looking for a street fight and found it.
Of course they were. /s It must be cozy in that black and white world you live in.
I read yesterday 20 people were arrested. I don't give 2 shits which side they were on. I'm betting there were people from both sides waking up with charges pending.
Ha ha! Give me a break!
Were the Proud Boys the ones who possessed 10+ firearms? Stabbed an elderly man multiple times? Threw liquids at peaceful protesters? Assaulted peaceful protesters on the backs of their heads? Assaulted police officers? Threw commercial grade fireworks at people eating dinner at a DC restaurant? NO.
Do tell about the violence you claim a couple dozen Proud Boys did on Saturday. Make sure you supply links so I can read facts.
You only need one "Proud Boy" to be present for the radical left to condone all the violence done by their own.
I agree. Violence from either side is unacceptable.
Yet what I hear from some they are completely ignoring things like the maga supporter that attacked an elderly couple that were holding a Biden sign with a golf club. Even ran his vehicle over a curb at them. He was arrested.
But no, it is all the fault of one side in some people's world...
Link???
So, they were arrested good! They should be punished to the full extent of the law.
Care to comment on how many Antifa and BLM thugs were arrested for their actions. Seems the left only thinks laws apply to certain people.
I was wrong where that one happened, that one wasn't in DC.
I still stand by what I said, neither side is innocent.
I have said many times violence should not be accepted.
Sure, Vic. Those Proud Boys (and now Goya Boys) are as innocent as lambs in the arms of Jesus. /s
Gavin McInnes founder of Proud Boys
Are you aware of how many innocents Franco killed? Do you not believe that Franco, a fascist dictator, is worthy of condemnation?
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I never mentioned the Proud Boys or implied anything about them in any of my comments.
What were BLM and antifa doing at a Trump protest last night?
Thanks for the article; good try. But, it describes an incident that occurred in Minnesota on November 10 and involved only ONE Trump supporter's abominable actions. I'm glad he was arrested.
By the way, there's no info in your article verifying that Mark A. Ulsaker is affiliated with the Proud Boys and their alleged behavior (according to evilgenius) on Saturday 11/14 in Washington, DC. which is the event and group that evilgenius specifically mentions in post 2.2 and is what I addressed.
You asked if I thought the slaves should accept slavery. That's insulting.
I'm well aware of the time and place. I never said that there was an affiliation. You asked for a link I gave you one.
It's doubtful that they were carrying this sign. That was more than likely Proud Boys, The Oath Keepers, the Goya's, or maybe just a plain MAGA supporter.
First, unlike some here, I have no way of verifying where that photo comes from or what it relates to. Second and more importantly, it neither represents Trump supporters nor does it equate to physical violence.
Your claim that it is likely belonging to a Trump supporter is slander.
Your claim that it is likely belonging to a Trump supporter is slander.
And your comment is pure BS, but not unexpected.
It was on Fox News and yes it's from yesterday MAGA march.
So threatening Blacks and Indians seems to be ok with some of the MAGA people.
That's grand. Too bad it was irrelevant to the thread.
Actually, it wasn't since it showed that some Trump supporters can be quite violent. Kinda in the theme of the current article.
Cheers
My charge of slander stands. Claiming that 72+ Million Americans are represented by that sign is nothing but slander!
So threatening Blacks and Indians seems to be ok with some of the MAGA people.
Of course not! Who would even think in such deeply race based terms?
Reading is essential, Vic. I never claimed that 72 million Americans were represented by the sign but definitely, some were.
Obviously some of those in the march/demonstration.
Keep swinging Vic you might get it right sooner or later.
Yes it is!
I never claimed that 72 million Americans were represented by the sign but definitely, some were.
You do a lot of implying. I find it very disturbing. The only people that sign would definitely represent are the ones holding it. How does it compare with violence against demonstrators, you know the last civil liberty that the left supposedly believed in?
Obviously some of those in the march/demonstration.
Or maybe somebody who resents white America, like Obama?
Keep swinging
I will, btw, your own Bill Maher agrees with me.
That is three strikes, Vic...You're out.
Do you agree that slave rebellions were justified?
What are you talking about?
The message of the sign is that the new world order, I.e. progressives, will come for blacks and Indians first. It's basically a warning that bad things will happen to blacks and Indians (which the sign holder object to) under Biden.
Not sure how that turns into "threatening blacks and Indians" but this isn't about reality, it's about playing the victim.
John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry had dire consequences. First, it led to the death of seventeen men. It also led to the galvanizing of the south and thus was a prelude to the bloody Civil War. I prefer the reasoned non-violent approach of the man you first mentioned - Frederick Douglass.
Brown was rightfully executed for treason.
No, Kavika you're out....As soon as you arrived.
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So you really think that people standing by the sign disagree with it?
If I didn't, or was offended by it, I would move. Not be filmed cheering right next to it.
I don't think the people who were there concerned themselves with other peoples signs, do you?
If I didn't, or was offended by it, I would move. Not be filmed cheering right next to it.
Good for you! Tell us what you would do if a group you were part of assaulted a reporter or pelted a woman with eggs?
So you would not read a sign you were standing next to?
If people started doing the things you describe, I would leave.
I have never been part of a protest or a rally. I think if I were I'd be focused on speakers etc rather than those around me.
If people started doing the things you describe, I would leave.
I'd call the police....Then as soon as I had a chance, I'd call and go off on the FBI
I have never been to a large national rally, only a couple of local ones.
To me it is akin to giving money to a presidential campaign. Useful idiots.
I think the rallies are a show of support. Just like protests are a show of discontent.
To me the former is indicative of an individual's influence, depending on how big a rally is.
The latter is usually a minority representation which is almost always overstated. The Civil Rights protests being one of the few exceptions. I was only a school boy then, but I thought they were inspiring and I always believed most Americans were with them.
You throw that around a lot.
That's because MLK Jr. was inspiring.
Yes he was!
Quite proud to say that Capricorns are often the peacemakers.
That describes Trump perfectly, except it is "has" such resentment for America, in the present tense.
... such resentment that's especially being exhibited now.
Still trolling?
I'm conversing with G, but if that's what you think, you're welcome to try and do something about it.
His level of resentment now is overwhelming.
OK.
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responding to my comment you've deleted?
see you in HD
I'll pass. I don't feel like trading insults/obscenities with you.
Why don't you go there and do it all by yourself?
Let's stick with the topics shall we.....that would be Obama and those he enabled like BLM.
Donald Trump, the most conceited man on Earth, has written 8, so far. (Well, he didn't really write them, of course, since he is functionally illiterate, but his name is on them as author.)
" Trump’s books tend to blur together, with anecdotes and achievements enhanced with each retelling."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/07/30/i-just-binge-read-eight-books-by-donald-trump-heres-what-i-learned/
At least he didn't turn to Bill Ayers to write them.
P.S.
Defiance won't work, nor will calling your friend.
What does that mean? Can you explain.
You missed the silent implied meaning of this religious conservatives comment...
"You may ask which black man on earth would have the conceit to write 3 auto-biographies?"
Don't even try it!
I would not call it conceit, I would call it history, that Frederick Douglass, the famous ex-slave, abolitionist and orator, wrote 3 autobiographies.
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave (1845)
My Bondage and My Freedom (1855)
The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1881)
So what was my violation? What excuse are you using this time to censor me? I didn't call anyone here racist.
Apparently conservatives love censorship when it's they doing the censoring.
Oh, and I just love the editorial you wrote that has nothing to do with any of the CoC rules of the site. Guess I hit too close to home.
Wasn't it Douglas who gave so much praise to what I consider the first progressive, John Brown?
Oh, yes Brown gave his life......along with the lives of so many innocents!
Look to yourself!
Are you referring to the millions of innocent men, woman and children who were brutally held in slavery and murdered at the whim of their slave masters?
You know I'm referring to all those killed during Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry
Do you believe that slaves should passively accept their condition?
Does enlarging the font and putting it in bold give your childish rebuttal more weight?
Or are you simply unable to communicate with standard sized fonts like most everyone else?
Hey ! I use large fonts too.
They break up the monotony of looking at everything in 12 point text.
If we aren't supposed to use them, why are those options in the toolbox?
Plus larger type can be used to emphasize a word or a sentence.
I don't know any other way to get some on the left to focus on the topic. I also use that format with Buzz, because that is his preferred format. So it's both sometimes necessary and a matter of habit.
No.
That question by itself is insulting. How about an apology?
I don't mind an occasional BIG worded comment to break up monotony, I've done it myself, it's just when someone's first half dozen comments are all large bolded rebuttals that it gets tiresome. And to me it indicates that the person commenting apparently thinks their words are weak or not enough on their own to get their point across. Perhaps they should try making their words matter more instead of effectively shouting them at everyone in nearly every comment they make.
“The problem is no longer discrimination against people of color, the argument goes; it’s ‘reverse racism,’ with minorities ‘playing the race card’ to get unfair advantage. The problem isn’t sexual harassment in the workplace; it’s humorless ‘feminazis’ beating men over the head with their political correctness,” - Barack Obama
We see examples of that daily here on NT, with religious conservatives constantly whining and sniveling about what they perceive as "reverse racism" against their desired "white culture" being eroded or complaining about the supposed "innocent wrongly accused" male rapists and sexual predators. Many protect and defend the right wing extremists who are the true threat to America while attacking those who would dare fight for equality or those who push back on white nationalist fascism. It's truly a disgusting thing to behold but apparently some have their heads shoved so far up their own asses that they have no concept of reality, they wallow in their own self-absorbed fantasy victimhood.
If we don’t put a stop to this type of behavior ( physically attacking people for having different political views) you can bet it will continually get worse. I realize that some people get a little tingle down their leg when they see someone they don’t like or agree with get attacked. But if we continue with the tacit approval it won’t be long before it happens to someone you care about.
It's going to. Left wing mayors & governors are sympathetic to the thugs and have their police departments standing down. They don't punish these people. Despite the FBI's ever watchful eye on right wing groups, I expect a violent counter attack from extreme right wing groups. How hard would it be for a lone extremist to toss a hand grenade into a large mob of antifa or BLM thugs?
I expect something like that within the next 4 years.
No they don’t, which empowers them and makes the violence snowball.
There is a video from Saturday of a MAGA guy walking around shoving and screaming at counter protesters. Then someone comes up from the side and punches the guy in the side of the face. On "conservative" twitter only the punch is shown not the MAGA walking around shoving people and challenging them to fight.
Since there were numerous white supremacist and far right hooligans at the march, I see no reason to assume all the troublemakers were leftists.
Please, play your games with someone else. I got your number and know exactly where you stand.
I don’t condone violence from any side John. That is where we differ!
In other words you condone the violence?
Why are you flailing so much on this seed ?
Lol, says the man who is looking for "Proud Boys" after Trump supporters were assaulted!
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What a disgusting racist and liar. He conveniently omitted that Hillary Clinton's staff started the birther issue in 2008.
Millions were "spooked by a Black man" but voted for you TWICE? Yah, OK.
Oh yes, you'll have them twisting in their seats trying to down play that!
Odd that they also didn't twist themselves up when, as Obama's running mate, Biden called Obama a "sorta clean black man". I still wonder why Obama chose a white racist as his running mate.
I'm a little puzzled by the Biden selection as well. The funny part of it is that odd choice was the one that paid big dividends. Biden was the only one who looked liked a moderate in the DNC primaries. (Obama told him not to do it, wouldn't even endorse him!). When it came down to Biden vs Sanders, Obama rallied the troops and they packaged the senile Biden as the "moderate" who would return the nation to normalcy! The pandemic seems to have done the rest!
1. Hillary Clinton's staff did not invent the birther allegations.
2. Even if they did, how is that an excuse for Donald Trump to revive them 3 years later, AFTER the state of Hawaii had TWICE officially announced that Obama's birth certificate was in the state archive?
3. Incredibly, you want to blame Obama because he is upset that Trump revived racist lies about him. You have to be fucking kidding.
As I predicted.
you want to blame Obama because he is upset that Trump revived racist lies about him.
Bogus maybe. Racist NO!
Vic, Donald Trump wanted to run for president in 2012, but he lacked a political base. He decided to appeal to the white grievance crowd and knew he could do so by reviving the birther ideas. It is all about race. Trump couldn't have cared less if Obama was born in the US or not, but it was a way for him to get a name for himself in the Republican Party.
That is a progressive perspective. I'm not going to characterize such a view here.
I happen to disagree with every bit of it.
I'm not sure, but I believe that is what the New York Times and/or CNN has been peddling for 4 years.
In both 2008 and 2009 the state of Hawaii OFFICIALLY announced they had examined Obama's original birth certificate in the state dept of health archive. If Trump had been simply concerned he could have contacted the governor's office of the state of Hawaii. That is what a world class businessman would have done, isnt it? But Trump wasnt interested in facts, he was interested in smearing the country's first black president for political purposes.
Some people apparently believe that Trump wasn't famous before 2012. Too funny!
I have to give you credit, you have raised this conversation to a higher level. It's like when I used to watch "Firing Line!". I've got the dictionary in front of me!
John, it is not the first time a presidential candidate was challenged on birth place, was it?
Why is it so egregious when it involved Obama? Why is it any different than what happened with Barry Goldwater, George Romney or John McCain?
"regurgitation" is a big word to you is it?
No John, I've used it myself. I was referring to "Pablum." Now there is a word I've never used.
How about you?
Vic, when Trump brought up Obama's "birthplace" Obama wasn't a candidate, he was the sitting president of the United States. No other US president was challenged about their eligibility for office WHILE they were in office.
Beyond that, there is no comparison between questions asked of Goldwater and McCain compared to the insane right wing birther crusade of 2009 and 2010.
Or Chester A. Arthur, Charles Evans Hughes, and Ted Cruz?
Must be an identity politics (aka racial) thing for some.
I've used them all at one point or another.
Trump questioned it for about a decade. It appears that only a few on the far left were bothered by it. During the 2016 RNC primaries Trump admitted that Obama was born in Hawaii. Not that any of it mattered because Obama qualified even if he was born outside the US. One parent was certifiably American and Obama lived in the US for well over 14 years.
Beyond that, there is no comparison between questions asked of Goldwater and McCain compared to the insane right wing birther crusade of 2009 and 2010.
" Now, according to fact-checkers and contemporary media reports, questions about Mr Obama's birthplace began circulating among disgruntled Clinton supporters in the last months of her ill-fated campaign against the then-Senator Obama in 2008. It was desperate times in the Clinton camp, and the candidate did not always acquit herself well, such as when she said that Mr Obama was not a Muslim " as far as I know ". But there is no evidence of ties between her and her campaign staff and the Obama birthplace allegations."
My question to you is - why are you still talking about this? Obama had a presidency that amounted to an 8 year honeymoon with the msm!
That's right - Ted Cruz! Why didn't Republicans line up and call them anti-Hispanic?
I'll just have to bow to the higher intellect!
The problem with anything that Hillary touches is that evidence either gets destroyed right before our eyes or it disappears. I think that was something she learned during the "Whitewater" investigation. The other amazing thing about the Clinton machine is best described by the late Linda Tripp - It seems like everyone in the Clinton orbit is willing to lie for them.
And Jasper, why are you quoting from Gateway Pundit, one of the most discredited "news" sources on the internet ?
It can be found elsewhere, so why go there? It is common knowledge.
and 7.2 ...
Don't like that one? Look for Politico and other left wing articles. I'm certainly not going to endlessly relitigate birther triviality with you or anyone else.
Obama's time in the sun is finished. By writing multiple and often very flawed and inaccurate autobiographies before age 60, he's exposed himself to be an egotistical, insecure little man who is trying to salvage his corrupt presidency and legacy, often by attacking those he fancies are his enemies.
I can only hope we accept the Daily Wire:
We accept the New York Times and CNN !!!
I dont blame you, you would get your ass handed to you.
Only in your dreams.
...on a shit sandwich.
I'm curious how much of his own money Trump spent on his ridiculous quest. I would be willing to bet that he held rallies to raise money for the investigation...and every last penny went into his own pocket.
As I said many times, both political parties should vet the birth places of their candidates so we wouldn't have this come up (six times in presidential elections) anymore.
Trump also said no one ever saw Obama at Columbia University, as it turns out there are many people who recalled Obama at Columbia.
If people had looked closely enough at Trump in 2011, his penchant for pathological lying would have been obvious. But the right was too excited by his attack on the nations first black president to wonder if it were true.
You need to research before making comments like this. President Obama has written 4 books:
Dreams from My Father (a memoir)
The Audacity of Hope (a memoir)
Of Thee I Sing (a children's book written to his daughters)
A Promised Land (a memoir)
None of them are autobiographical.
I recommend that you actually read these books and stop repeating what others have said, because it's making you look silly. To that end, if you are currently unable to afford them, I would like to purchase these books for you. And yes, I am completely serious.
OMG, is there not a thing that Donald Trump has said or tweeted that you ever let go of. John, I have some good news, in two months somebody else will be president. Can't you finally be happy? The topic is Obama and/or BLM/antifa.
as it turns out there are many people who recalled Obama at Columbia.
I know John. Some used to tell me that Obama resided in Davis Sq Somerville (one mile from where I grew up) when he was going to Harvard University. I don't know what all the concern is about, but again I filed it under "who cares" long ago.
But the right was too excited by his attack on the nations first black president to wonder if it were true.
Barak Obama was elected and lionized by white America. America truly is the greatest nation on earth despite the hate being taught at our universities.
Well, ya "got" me on only one ( Of Thee I Sing ), but you seem to need clarification on the definition of memoir , which you accurately called the other three.
Hope I've helped. I wish you a good day, and you'll be the first I'll contact IF I ever need financial assistance!
Maybe you can let us know who the ghost writer was. I don't mean to speak for Jasper, but why don't you keep them.
Triggered much?
Even if that were true, how long did they continue to push that false claim? How does someone else starting a false rumor exonerate the bigots who picked it up and ran with it for YEARS?
The millions "spooked" didn't vote for him the first time or the second and were so angry with the audacity of a black man becoming President that during his two terms they made cartoons of the Obama's as apes, white supremacist militia groups surged in number and the prosecution of hate crimes increased by 35 percent during just the first three years of Obama’s presidency. Refusing to accept reality is simply exposing oneself as part of the millions who didn't vote for Obama the first or second time and it's likely just as President Obama said, that they were "triggered a deep-seated panic, a sense that the natural order had been disrupted".
Not at all. Those who are triggered have been those who've rioted and/or needed Play-Doh, blankies, and tissues for 4 years.
They finally found the investigators that Trump sent to Hawaii to find out whatever Trump's last lie was.
They went Native.
Lua valea foliga pa'epa'e ali'i leilsa i Hawaii.
La Manuia le aso.
Ua pepelo Trump
e pepelo lava o ia
ioe o ia lava e oʻo mai i le aso nei
moni lava
moni lava moni lava... Val speak
LOL
Obama hanai
Some just can't respond to the truth of their beloved Obama!
Some are ready for hospice care for terminal Obama Derangement Syndrome.
The topic is Obama, yet some are still going on and on about Trump.
I'll let our readers decide who's rational and who's radical.
Then, I am on topic.
It would be interesting to know what our readers think.
He was on 60 minutes last night touting another book about himself and taking shots at the man he tried to destroy.
That's worthy of an article.
Your comments are not even in the ballpark.
Admit it. I hit it out of the ballpark. Home run!
As Harry Caray used to say it "That ones on Waveland Avenue!"
Cubs Win....Cubs Win!
Ummm... you're talking to an L.A. boy. DODGERS!!!!!
You had the great Vin Scully (Vin would be the only step up from Vic).
I grew up with Vin Scully, of course. He started his career announcing for the Brooklyn Dodgers 3 years before I was born. He is a revered figure in L.A., and throughout the country.
I miss Ernie Harwell announcing play-by-plays for the Tigers. I met him at a game once; I was about 7 or 8 and he signed my baseball. A little over 20 years later, I found out my neighbor was good friends with him and Al Kaline.