BREAKING: Texas Lawmaker Introduces Bill to Begin Process of Secession
By: Jonathan Davis
An interesting idea. Liberals had such talk with Bush 43 and Trump now it’s conservatives states looking at it. Texas having once been an independent country may decide to try that route again. I don’t favor the idea but leveraging it to moderate the behavior of our wannabe rulers who are supposed to be our public services may be useful.
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BREAKING: Texas Lawmaker Introduces Bill to Begin Process of Secession
by Jonathan Davis about 4 hours agoupdated about 3 hours ago
Anticipating what they (rightfully) believe will become the most socialist-leaning administration since Great Britain ruled the colonies, conservatives in Texas are not planning on ‘waiting out’ Joe Biden’s term.
They want out, as in all the way out .
State Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R) filed legislation this week seeking to put the question of a “Texit” — a process by which the Lone Star state would become the Lone Star nation — to voters.
Called House Bill 1359, which is also known as the Texas Independence Referendum Act, the legislation called for a statewide ballot in November asking voters if they want to remain part of the United States or “establish an independent republic.”
The Epoch Times has more :
If voters say yes, then a committee would be formed to study the matter and make recommendations regarding the best way to break away from the rest of the country, including advice for how to amend the state Constitution to accommodate the proposed nation and recommendations for issues that would have to be negotiated with the U.S. government such as a common travel agreement.
“This Act simply Lets Texans Vote. This decision is too big to be monopolized solely by the power brokers in our Capitol. We need to let Texans’ voices be heard!” Biedermann said in a statement.
“Voters of all political persuasions in Texas can agree on one thing, Washington D.C. is and has been broken. Our federal government continuously fails our working families, seniors, taxpayers, veterans, and small business owners. For decades, the promises of America and our individual liberties have been eroding. It is now time that the People of Texas are allowed the right to decide their own future. This is not a left or right political issue. Let Texans Vote!” he added.
Texas is unique in that it has its own potential monetary system (via its own gold reserves) and it’s own electric grid. Besides a robust oil-and-gas industry, Texas is also becoming a tech hub, but that may also be the undoing of Texit.
Hundreds of thousands of people have flocked to the state in recent years from California, New York, and other blue enclaves seeking respite from the very things they voted for back home: Democratic politicians who impose higher taxes, more regulation, and other restrictions on liberty (talk about cognitive dissonance).
So now, will there be enough native Texans and conservatives who want to go the way of Great Britain in leaving the European Union? Biedermann isn’t sure but he believes Texans ought to have the choice.
And they do have one, under the state’s constitution: Article 1, Section 2 states: “All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.”
Texit has backers.
The Texas Nationalist Movement noted the filing, saying it “would give Texans an opportunity to head to the polls in November of 2021 and start the process of reasserting our status as an independent nation.”
Constitutional experts say that states have no right to secede, but it doesn’t appear as though Texans are asking for permission.
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Another pipe dream just like the state of jefferson. Will NEVER happen.
According to the joint resolution for annexing Texas, Congress said Texas could break up into five states but all would have to be part of the U.S.
And another reason Texas cannot legally secede is because of the Supreme Court case Texas v. White. Even if the Texas legislature voted to secede, the action would be “absolutely null,” according to that Supreme Court case.
Texans who wish to secede, can go to "H." Good riddance, I say. If it takes ALL THIS REACTIONARY BULL PATTY to keep this union together - then just go already. Leave us alone!
Atta baby. Speak the truth!
I hope they take my sister with them.
We fought our Civil War to prove US to be Indivisible.
There are malcontent states of Americans who never bought into the whole unity 'thing.' They have been dragging their feet for the duration! Our collective 'ball and chain' - their way or nag-nag-nag!
Not anymore. I thought "unity" was a dirty word now. Don't all true Americans hate Texas anyway?
Do not be ridiculous. America is Indivisable...
Up thoust buttocks.
"Unity" is not a game we play, Tacos! Appropriate the word in context to its specific discussion. In other words, be less "creative-thinking" for now. Also, we don't hate all Texans, we might not hate many Texans. Furthermore, we can love all or many Texans.
The issue is the malcontent Texans who drag, nag, and threaten to 'walk' every few years, because the nation can not afford to let 'them' RUN THE ENTIRETY OF THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE!
I don't hate TX. I was stationed there many times. It gave me laughs galore.
Glad we could be here for your comedic entertainment!
The rebels will be brought under our heel!
Maybe we could create special camps . . . er, schools to reeducate them.
No, but it is a word people use without really meaning it.
I spent several years in Ft Worth, TX while my Father was on the FWPD. He was then drafted into the Texas Rangers as a Special Agent with a secret group of Brand Inspectors and assigned to Pawhuska Oklahoma to assist the OK Cattlemens Association to investigate a large cattle rustling organization in OK. When he resigned the Texas Rangers after having helped break the cattle rustling organization, we moved to San Diego, CA.
I don't know who you people are who find it 'adorable' to FUCK away years of the only lives we as a nation have to collectively experience together meant for something better—I guess. There is a pandemic with scary "homebodies," sick people, dying people, and dead people and some conservatives and the like got-game days up the ying-yang! Unbelievable.
We have a president who really does care and won't lie to us more times than will and y'all got "game days."
By the way, Russia is glad y'all are on its servers. They are going to light y'all up with all the data points and 'profiles' they are going to steal, plant, and sell and 'make' on U.S. conservatives behalf!
OK-- then name a few of the states that have successfully ceceded from the Union-- and are now no longer a part of the U.S.
I don't understand why your question is relevant to my comment. If you have a point, why not just make it?
Special "camps"?
Interesting that you should mention that...as today is Holocaust Remembrance Day!
(I'm sure it wasn't deliberate-- probably just a slip of the tongue!
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If they secede, they will not be part of this nation except geographically.
... indivisible...
Gee, how did this nation stick together before 1954 when President Eisenhower added: "under god"?
Yet we seem to manage for almost 200 years.
Guess I should have used the sarc tag because you seem to have missed my point.
three words with one punctuation, lol
So the US WAS divisible until 1956?
Right, because the US was doing so well before 1962 too. >sarc<
Only to those who opposed expanding women's rights.
What's stopping him from being virtually everywhere now?
His probable nonexistence?
How very inconvenient for him and his followers
He's stopped by human laws?
Not much of a deity, then. Not nearly as advertised.
So, I'm supposed to be afraid of a "loving" god who is subject to human laws?
Why?
So you don't respect court rulings unless they go your way, is that it?
God is irrelevant to the nation. But pointless marches will not overturn SCOTUS precedent. Maybe you should file your own legal challenge through due process and see how that goes!
That's just being gullible. No reason to believe then, much less accept it.
Or your fantasy "2nd coming" isn't happening, much like your fantasy state of Jefferson!
In theory, there should be no objection from the rest of the country, right? California? New York? New Jersey? Oregon? Washington? Massachussetts? They'd all be glad to see Texas leave, right? For that matter, how about the whole South? I hear all the time about how awful these people are. I hear all the time about what a burden they are on the rest of the country. Why would you want to hold on to them? If they want to leave, why would you get in their way?
Because this is a UNION. A U-N-I-O-N. We simply want the whole of the country to work. Some states can't make it divided. (Just look at them.) Moreover, it would not take long before a 'single' country-state would realize that its LARGER collective states also hold more influence, power, and wealth (because they do not have a drag of millions or hundreds of thousands anyway - malcontents and 'divided' public policy). Lastly, which side would enter into a military-styled nuclear-sharing authority with the other?
The real problem with our country is people who think and delude themselves into thinking the land and its 'properties' belong to them and their whims alone. That's what is causing the 'bad marriage' right about now.
Texas and the south in general have been seeing an influx of liberals moving there, there won't be any secession.
Oh I agree. I just find it amazing that so much anger, hate, and disrespect is thrown at parts of our population, but when they threaten to leave, the mudslingers get all offended.
I'm not offended.
for info only.
TNM founded in 2005. Slight uptick in interest when Obama was elected. "Interest" increased 159% when Trump was elected.
Still, basically an all white group of older Texan males routinely accused of racism or white national feelings for Texas.
TNM claims over 300,000 "relationships" but marches around the Alamo monthly, placing a wreath.
and there are never more than 2 dozen marchers, usually half of that.
Kyle started a petition 2 days ago for his Texas Independence Bill.
13,189 signature so far in a state of 29 million.
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Not impressed yet.
Were you just as amazed when the hatred, anger and disrespect was thrown at the citizens of New York State recently. Funny, I didn't see you there saying this about them.... [deleted]
14,112 signatures as of noon Friday...
still not impressed.
For example?
I doubt you were looking.
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Yet you seem to be pretending that 'anger, hate and disrespect' only goes one way. Trump's election challenges prove that to be false since his legal teams and surrogates went after urban voters [read POC] in the north [MI, WI, PA] and blamed them for his lose in Georgia.
Says the guy who expresses his 'anger, hate and disrespect' for 'secular progressive coastal elites' every chance he gets.
Your comment drips with hypocrisy.
Since I didn't say anything to support that idea, what it "seems" to be is probably coming from your own imagination. Everything that follows in your comment is, therefore, a straw man fallacy.
Since you don't live in New York, why should you care?
How vindictive. Is that how a so called "christian" is supposed to act?
Meanwhile, the economy weakens and investors (do you assume they're ALL "elite") who may have long term investments like retirement investments suffer. Savoring the misfortune of others doesn't seem very "Christ-like." Just the opposite really. Almost...devilish even?
Oh but you DID.
It is hardly a stretch to presume that the 'parts of our population and the 'they' in your comment are ONE side of 'both sides'.
Nope.
It seems that you are having an issue with what 'seems' means.
Oh and another misuse of the term straw man fallacy. Well done.
Which makes your comment obtuse.
Then you should be able to quote me saying so. But you haven't because you can't. Because I didn't say it. You are dishonestly trying to attribute something to me I did not say.
Believe what you like, but at least I'm not lying about what the other person is saying. You should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously.
I did. Do you deny that your comment implied that ONE side 'throws' 'anger, hate, and disrespect' at the other side? Three days later and you have yet to address the FACT that is NOT a one way street.
There is NOTHING dishonest in ANY of my comments nor did I lie about what you said. Just stop.
Oh and BTFW, since I fully understand the concept of the term straw man fallacy, it's not a matter of what I believe, it's about what I know.
You should make an attempt to avoid continuously devolving to unfounded personal comments. Seriously.
Yeah, after Trump royally screwed it up! And the investment losses of investors and companies only hurts the economy in the long run. Of course, some are too short sighted or vindictive to see that.
Ah, more of the pointless trolling game.
You quoted me saying that that one side does it but the other side doesn't? Where?
No I don't. But that doesn't say anything about it going in the other direction. I was only commenting on this story, not all possible stories.
Because there hasn't been a reason to. It's not the topic I was addressing.
I'll stop when you stop lying about the content of my comments and when you also let me speak for myself instead of trying to attach meaning to my words that aren't there. And it goes on even after you have already been told you are wrong.
This nonsense is all rooted in your embarrassingly feeble attempt at whataboutism. What about the other side? What about the other side? Blah blah blah. Hey, if you want to talk about the other side, that's on you. Go ahead! It's not my responsibility to express your perspective for you. I was talking about one facet of this seed that I felt like commenting on. I don't also need to think of whatever the hell Dulay might want to say.
If you have a different perspective, just say it! If you want to make a point, don't try to drag it out of me. Be an adult and say it yourself. Stand up for what you believe. If you think it's important to say that Texas or the South generally - or whoever - hates anyone then JUST. SAY. SO. Don't harass me to make your point of view for you.
Supercilious whining bullshit.
If that's the case, you must be hanging out with a very negative crowd.
Maybe its time to get some new friends-- you'd be surprised how many positive people there are in the world!
(P.S: Its easier than you think-- the people I hang with are very positive-- never sit around whining about Texas-- or anything else.)
I didn't say it was anyone I was hanging out with. I was thinking of this very site. I see it all the time.
Kyle Biedermann is a total ding-dong.
He thought dressing up as Gay Hitler was a good idea on Halloween.
Actually gay Hitler sounds kind of appealing. He probably would have been way less of an asshole.
Springtime for Hitler?
Actually gay Hitler sounds kind of appealing
Springtime for Hitler?
From "The Producers":
Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp With Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgaden is a fictional musical in Mel Brooks's 1967 film The Producers,[1] as well as the stage musical adaptation of the movie,[2] and the 2005 movie adaptation of the musical. It is a musical about Adolf Hitler, written by Franz Liebkind, an unbalanced ex-Nazi played by Kenneth Mars (then by Brad Oscar and Will Ferrell in the stage musical and the 2005 film respectively).
In the film, the play is chosen by the producer Max Bialystock and his accountant Leo Bloom in their fraudulent scheme to raise substantial funding by selling 25,000% of a play, then causing it to fail, and finally keeping all of the remaining money for themselves. To ensure that the play is a total failure, Max selects an incredibly tasteless script (which he describes as "practically a love letter to Adolf Hitler"), and hires the worst director he can find (Roger DeBris), a stereotypical homosexual and transvestite caricature. He casts an out-of-control hippie named Lorenzo St. Dubois, also known by his initials "L.S.D.",[3] in the role of Hitler (after he had wandered into the wrong theatre by mistake during the casting call – "That's our Hitler!").
Good call.
Gasp! Who are those queens and what the "H" is this about? Tell me more.
From the article:
State Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R) filed legislation this week seeking to put the question of a “Texit” — a process by which the Lone Star state would become the Lone Star nation — to voters.
Called House Bill 1359, which is also known as the Texas Independence Referendum Act, the legislation called for a statewide ballot in November asking voters if they want to remain part of the United States or “establish an independent republic.”
Idle threats be damned, nevertheless. We want Trump supporters to just go already somewhere - anywhere else. That's the thing. We're stuck on each other. So we can continue to play foolish 'war' games with each other (Red/Blue), while Russia cheers or we can get our collective shit together and make life better for the whole damn lot of us!
That is, Trump supporters won't be allowed to be happy until liberals and secularists are allowed to be happy! I hope y'all got that!
Welcome back to the show that never ends.
Glad to see you.
Good to see you also!
Wexit didn't go anywhere, but what about Quebexit? That was serious.
Anticipating what they (rightfully) believe will become the most socialist-leaning administration since Great Britain ruled the colonies, conservatives in Texas are not planning on ‘waiting out’ Joe Biden’s term.
Wait... We were socialists while we were British colonies? We didn't even have public schools.
Yeah, Steve, I caught that, too. I just rolled my eyes.
Fight if you must. It's all good! "The Struggle Continues. . . .old man." Valuable life spend on weak, specious arguments that won't matter a whole heap when all is said and done.
just not the GOP or Democrats, lol.
Since there are members here who call Biden "China Joe" and some who criticize everything China does, I wonder if they should be given a big dose of it, and have Biden put all the Texans in "re-education camps" to Americanize them. You know, take away all their weapons, train them how to make an honest living, and to speak American, etc.
Trump supporters love it when they hear such words. . . it is like 'oxygenated' brain food they can sponge off of for effect. China is the new "boogey-men," because Donald Trump took Russia off the table. Good old "cult of personality" himself strikes again!
More like brain poison.