Well this won't take long did it...........................The REAL driving reason comes out.

Of course. They should call Trump to testify and put his lies, fantasies and hallucinations on the permanent congressional record. Its a no brainer. 

The person who said "remember this day forever"  after watching the riot on tv for three hours, has a lot to answer for. 

Trump should tell them to put it where the sun doesn't shine and the rain doesn't go. If they need help figuring out how to do it; there are instructional videos everywhere on the internet.

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Congress’ power to issue subpoenas, while broad, is not unlimited. The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency, and cannot investigate someone purely to expose wrongdoing or damaging information about them for political gain. A subpoena must potentially further some “legitimate legislative purpose,” the court has said.

Blows Pelosi and her lemmings on the commission right out of the water. Anyone with a brain not suffering from TDS knows this commission isn't legitimate. They have one goal- get Trump. Also, to make sure they keep this issue front and center until after midterms. Maybe if enough TDS sufferers stay tuned and ignore reality long enough the Democrats might not lose enough seats to become irrelevant in the short term. This is nothing but for political gain.

Bullshit again............

• • The departing Capitol Police chief says he called for backup six times before and during Wednesday's attack at the US Capitol but was kept waiting.
  • Chief Steven Sund told The Washington Post he asked the Senate and House sergeants at arms multiple times for permission to request National Guard support.
  • Sund said that he asked the US military for help after the violence started but that Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, the director of the US Army Staff, said he could not recommend sending in the Guard. Piatt, however, says he did not recommend against this and was only saying he didn't have the authority to deploy the additional Guardsmen, an approval process that took 40 more minutes during the siege.
  • The Guard deployed shortly after 3 p.m. and arrived on the scene around 5:40 p.m., after the violence had mostly ceased.

• Sund told The Post: "If we would have had the National Guard we could have held them at bay longer."

• businessinsider
•  Three days before supporters of President Donald Trump  rioted at the Capitol , the Pentagon asked the  U.S Capitol Police  if it needed National Guard manpower. And as  the mob descended on the building  Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The police turned them down both times, according to senior defense officials and two people familiar with the matter.
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The person who said "remember this day forever"  after watching the riot on tv for three hours, has a lot to answer for. 

I'm sure you agree, [deleted]

I am sure you agree that this is all a political show by Pelosi. She and the Democrats don't give a rats ass about the Federal Officers injured. They sure as hell didn't give a shit about them for the last five plus years. "Defund the police" is a purely Democrat/leftist movement. 

If this was really about what was behind Jan 6th, and preventing it from ever happening again, then they would can the water works and do a real investigation. Dragging every Federal officer willing to testify in front of the commission does jack shit of nothing except pull at the heart strings and mentally faculties of every TDS sufferer.

1. They would start with the pre-planning for the 6th. How many people were involved? How serious were they? (Not very because the mighty mental midgets were unarmed, unprepared, secured no objectives, put up no barricades, didn't cut communications, and didn't neutralize the National Guard or nearby military.).
2. Who the hell dropped the ball when the FBI claimed they knew about planning for an "insurrection" (laughable to call it that); but no extra security was set up at any level. What is the process of the chain of command; and who was informed? Obviously there was a disconnect that needs to be fixed between those that had the information; and those that needed to know about it.
3. Why was extra security denied when it was requested from Pelosi several times by Sund (A question she will ensure never gets asked or answered).
4. What delayed getting additional forces to the area? A lot of it had to do with the way DC is set up; and the rules to make sure no state or local government has authority over forces that could be used to compel lawmakers. Is there a way to streamline it? 
5. How was the available security deployed, was it deployed and used correctly?
6. How can any of this be corrected?  

But those aren't the questions they are asking are they?

Of course. They should call Trump to testify and put his lies, fantasies and hallucinations on the permanent congressional record. Its a no brainer. 

I concur.  They should start with asking President Trump if he had asked PRIOR to January 6, 2021 if the Capitol area law enforcement was sufficient to handle the anticipated crowds and if the military was prepared to move in the National Guard if so called.  He was assured they were.

The person who said "remember this day forever"  after watching the riot on tv for three hours, has a lot to answer for. 

Former President Trump has nothing to answer for as it related to January 6, 2021.   Others surely do.

However, Nancy Pelosi might want to review her actions on that day and those immediately prior.   The Capitol Police and DC Mayor had been forewarned by the FBI, that there were problems and anticipated violence, and as the individual immediately responsible for Capitol security, as the security apparatus of the Capitol reports to her, she failed to act on that information.   In fact, Ms. Pelosi appeared to be trying to cover her own tracks by asking for, essentially firing the Capitol Police Chief resign.   Where oh where is Speaker Pelosi when her screeching voice is actually desired to be heard?

WASHINGTON - The former chief of the U.S. Capitol police issue Tuesday with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s demand for his resignation, saying that directive was misguided.

Steven Sund, who resigned his post shortly after the deadly assault, told a joint Senate panel investigating the Jan. 6 riots that Pelosi demanded his resignation “without a full understanding of what we prepared for.”

Earlier in Tuesday’s hearing, Sund said he now regrets leaving the department, despite the admitted security breakdowns that resulted in the siege that left five dead, including a Capitol police officer.

“I certainly do regret resigning," he said.

Find the entire article here:  usatoday

Indeed!  That person also called off the National Guard and any reinforcements that day.

Wrong as usual.  Former President Trump had asked if the military was prepared to provide any and all assistance.  It appears that Speaker Pelosi and DC Mayor Bowser did not want National Guard as it would not provide good optics.

And just to inform you, the President has no control over the National Guard unless and until they are federalized.  The National Guard is under the control of the various Governors and in the case of DC the mayor.  They are the states military.

The person who said "remember this day forever"  after watching the riot on tv for three hours, has a lot to answer for. 

Former President Trump has nothing to answer for as it related to January 6, 2021.

Not even close to being a sufficient answer. What you said is kind of the opposite of a sufficient answer. 

The person who said "remember this day forever"  after watching the riot on tv for three hours, has a lot to answer for. 

Former President Trump has nothing to answer for as it related to January 6, 2021.

Not even close to being a sufficient answer. What you said is kind of the opposite of a sufficient answer. 

Close enough for you to acknowledge and respond.   Former President Trump had nothing to do with the PREVIOUSLY KNOWN planned violence, other than what he had been advised of and offered assistance to fend off.   But why bother with facts that you would refuse to accept as it flies in the face of the assumptions of those afflicted with TDS.

It was a somewhat impromptu insurrection because Trump is an impromptu, incompetent dickhead. All he knows how to do is incite. There is audio and video of numerous rioters telling the camera that they were there on Trump's authority. And that was before they were arrested. 

They broke into the Capitol Building , illegal. They attempted to enter high security areas once they were inside the building, illegal. They trashed congressional offices, illegal, and they resisted lawful orders to desist from authorized law enforcement, illegal. Some of them are also guilty of conspiracy. 

Trump brought it all on. Everyone has seen the videos. 

Right wingers are left to convince everyone that they didnt really see what they watched with their own eyes. That is what is known as gaslighting. 

Trump watched the bloody riot for hours before making a couple of tweets congratulating the rioters on them loving him so much , and then finally made a video, when it was all but over, asking them to go home "in peace". 

As for what Trump wanted out of it? He wanted to scare Mike Pence enough that it would make Pence do what Trump wanted, reject the submitted electoral count. 

It was a somewhat impromptu insurrection because Trump is an impromptu, incompetent dickhead. All he knows how to do is incite. There is audio and video of numerous rioters telling the camera that they were there on Trump's authority. And that was before they were arrested. 

Impromptu?  Are you saying that with a straight face due to the LIE or of complete ignorance of what has already been reported?

FBI report warned of ‘war’ at Capitol, contradicting claims there was no indication of looming violence

Please note the date of this Washington Post article.  JANUARY 12th.  

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They broke into the Capitol Building , illegal. They attempted to enter high security areas once they were inside the building, illegal. They trashed congressional offices, illegal, and they resisted lawful orders to desist from authorized law enforcement, illegal. Some of them are also guilty of conspiracy. 

And those responsible are being prosecuted.   Would you prefer they be summarily executed without trial?

Trump brought it all on. Everyone has seen the videos. 

Where he said PEACEFUL?  That video?

Right wingers are left to convince everyone that they didnt really see what they watched with their own eyes. That is what is known as gaslighting. 

Per one who is a master at gaslighting.

Trump watched the bloody riot for hours before making a couple of tweets congratulating the rioters on them loving him so much , and then finally made a video, when it was all but over, asking them to go home "in peace". 

He's a clue for the clueless, Former President Trump had no authority to do anything.  What assistance was offered was refused by Pelosi and Bowser.

Trump watched the bloody riot for hours before making a couple of tweets congratulating the rioters on them loving him so much , and then finally made a video, when it was all but over, asking them to go home "in peace". 

He's a clue for the clueless, Former President Trump had no authority to do anything.  What assistance was offered was refused by Pelosi and Bowser.

KNOWING that his followers had broken into the Capitol, tried to invade the inner chambers of the House and Senate (succeeded in the Senate) , injured dozens of cops by beating them with makeshift weapons , and trashed congressional offices, and terrorized Capitol Building personnel, KNOWING all that, Trump still said that his followers should remember this day forever.

And you either ignore that or defend him. People like you are the reason that good people have to be more assertive than ever about ending Trumpism. 

KNOWING that his followers had broken into the Capitol, tried to invade the inner chambers of the House and Senate (succeeded in the Senate) , injured dozens of cops by beating them with makeshift weapons , and trashed congressional offices, and terrorized Capitol Building personnel, KNOWING all that, Trump still said that his followers should remember this day forever. And you either ignore that or defend him. People like you are the reason that good people have to be more assertive than ever about ending Trumpism. 

Yet YOU refuse to acknowledge the obvious fact that what happened was previously known about and forewarned by the FBI and IGNORED by the Democrats in charge of the city and capitol.   It was entirely out of the control of President Trump other than his offering assistance which he did.

And, while there were and are some far right radicals among Trump supporters, the overwhelming majority of them are law abiding peaceful individuals who PEACEFULLY assembled in Washington DC that day.

You're painting Trump supporters with a very broad brush, a VERY broad brush indeed.

Yes and The Turd Reich called off the National Guard and any reinforcements.

Quite wrong, again.  President Trump asked the military if the resources were available if needed.   The President doesn't call up the National Guard, again, that's under the control of the Governors and in the case of DC, the Mayor.

He told them, like he told his domestic terrorist supporters/enablers to 'Stand Back and Stand By'

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Already been over this one up in 1.1.3. Some just don't like reading proof that  contradicts their views. Quite sad really.

Jesus. expatingb how can anyone not pull in the similarity? FFS

Wrong as usual?  How would you know?

Read and learn.

Hundreds of National Guard troops   were posted in the streets of Washington, D.C., on Wednesday afternoon, but there was little they could do to respond as   pro-Trump rioters overran the Capitol .

Investigations are imminent, to determine whether the Capitol Police were undermanned and unprepared for the threat posed by two days of rallies against the results of the 2020 election, but the answer as to why troops posted blocks away were unable to respond to the siege is as simple ― or as complicated ― as a morass of bureaucracy.

Simply put, the   National Guard   only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.

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Trump's bizarre and offensive and disqualifying response to the riot has nothing to do with what Nancy Pelosi knew or didnt know or did or didnt do. Nothing. 

The right is pathetically attempting to blame Pelosi for the riot, which is absurd. Even if she was lax, which is not true, that still wouldnt make her responsible for the actions of violent Trump supporters. It is ridiculous.  Is this truly all you guys have as a response to this committee ? 

Watch out, you've attracted the attention of Inspector Clouseau.

expatingb how can anyone not pull in the similarity? FFS

An inability to coherently read and understand?

Back stateside now.  Did time on Long Island (NY) with the sister and her hubby before heading down to VA to see the son and his family.   Discovered my nephew pulled the pin and looking at a job in TX.  NYPD Capt with 26yrs on the job and just can't deal with the BS there any longer.

The right is pathetically attempting to blame Pelosi for the riot, which is absurd.

And yet you and the pathetic left are trying to blame President Trump for the actions of rioters.  Which is absurd.

Even if she was lax, which is not true, that still wouldnt make her responsible for the actions of violent Trump supporters.

Where did I say she was responsible for their actions?  Individuals are responsible for their own actions, not those of others.   However Pelosi WAS and IS responsible for not being prepared for what was forewarned by the FBI since as Speaker of the House, Capitol security is part of that job description.  She FAILED spectacularly at that job.

It is ridiculous.  Is this truly all you guys have as a response to this committee ? 

The "committee" which is simply a show for a predetermined outcome, much like the joke impeachment hearings that were held.  Predetermined and no one needs a seer to know what the results of this committee hearing will be, much like the impeachment hearing preceding.

I dont really care if someone is a re reg or not, but I do find it amusing that we used to have a member named expat , and now we have a member named exexpat .  That would be quite a coincidence. 

No, I was correct.  You said I was wrong as usual.  For this being what looks like your first day on this site, you sure know a lot about me.

If this was my first day, how the phuck did you know me as expatingb?

It's my first day as exexpatnowinva...   [deleted]

Watch out, you've attracted the attention of Inspector Clouseau.

Don't insult Inspector Clouseau in such a manner.  [deleted]

I dont really care if someone is a re reg or not, but I do find it amusing that we used to have a member named expat , and now we have a member named exexpat .  That would be quite a coincidence. 

Dude....   READ and try to UNDERSTAND.

ex-pat-in-gb     now    ex-ex-pat-now-in-va.

Jesus Christ it's not rocket science.  I've returned stateside with my wife heading to her new assignment.

Here's a hint, it will soon be ex-ex-pat-in-tn when I stop at my daughters place assuming I get on line.

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Seems to know me quite well for being a newbi

Much like you claim to know me as someone else?   

I just respond to what people post and tell them the truth if in error.

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The "committee" which is simply a show for a predetermined outcome, much like the joke impeachment hearings that were held.

I think there is a predetermined outcome, but not because of something sinister. There is a predetermined outcome because everyone saw what happened on Jan 6th. It was all on television all day. Trump told his mob, both before and on Jan 6th, to come to Washington to pressure Congress to overturn the election results. Thousands of morons and traitors listened to him with the belief they could effect the election results, went to the capitol , got out of hand and became violent criminals. Trump thanked them for loving him so much and told them to remember their riot forever. 

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all sorts of people know the same thing i know

its the ones in denial we have to worry about

Of course the outcome is predetermined. This clown show is being put on by the same lying sacks of shit that desperately tried for four years to get trump out of office. Their puny little minds were made up the minute trump took office.

Of course the outcome is predetermined.

What happened at the capitol is not a mystery . there were dozens of videos. 

we need to find out what trump knew prior and also other republican leaders. 

And what the lying sack of shit dems did for over four years is also not a mystery.

It's my first day as exexpatnowinva...

Welcome home. [Deleted]

Donald Trump was never, not for one second , fit to hold office. Ever. To hell with your "four years" . 

This country needs to get rid of trumpism once and for all. 

What happened at the capitol is not a mystery . there were dozens of videos.

I wonder how many people here know that the committee's inquiry actually started today?

(It started with testimony by D.C. Police officer who were actually there!

(Unlike some people we know)

I hope you figure it out before you get too old to care. 

Oh bullshit. Trump is more fit for office than obama and dementia boy put together. There are many millions of people that love trumps policies. Trumpism lives. Deal with it.

He's a clue for the clueless, Former President Trump had no authority to do anything.

Odd. Trump said himself many times that as president he had the power to do anything he wants. 

Liz Cheney rubbed her balls in the lying gop's faces!

Maybe there is a job for her on the view. Heard they were looking for another milksop conservative that had fallen out of favor; and stood no chance of ever doing anything politically again.

I am sure TDS driven leftists will love her in that roll. Until she forgets herself and actually comes out of her TDS insanity. Then they will be calling for her head.

I doubt they will call for her head as quickly as 'republicans' did.

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I wonder if Hitler had as many sycophants as Trump.

If Hitler did , and Trump hears about it he will get more. 

Good afternoon Mr. Godwin.

Good afternoon Mr. Godwin.

That does not work anymore, even Godwin regretted his 'law'.

He still does.  They just go now by another name.

Urged an inquiry?

Urged???

WTF?

There already is one (started today in fact-- although people who only watch Fox News won't know most of the details).

On the first day (yes, it was today) they heard from Capitol police officers -- who were actually there! 

On the first day (yes, it was  today)   they heard from Capitol police officers  --  who were actually there! 

Unlike some people who weren't and who are just speculating about what happened.. ..in many cases just making things up! 

Ms. Cheney, one of just two House Republicans willing to serve on the panel

What a line of bullshit.  She's one of 2 Pelosi hand picked to serve on the panel.  

This whole thing is complete bullshit.  There was an "investigation" into this right after it happened.  You all remember, they tried (and failed) to impeach Trump for it.  Then there were what, a few more investigations that accumulated in nothing (not surprising given the democrat and lefts track record).  

Another waste of time and money.

You all remember, they tried (and failed) to impeach Trump for it. 

Was Trump not convicted because he was innocent, or because US senators are afraid of him and his mob of followers who would vote out anyone who crossed their dear leader ? 

Immediately after the riot, many of the same people who would not later vote for impeachment condemned Trump's inciting of the insurrection. 

We need to find out more about why white supremacists, nut jobs, and nihilists invaded the nation's capital in service of an insane "stop the steal" pipedream, egged on by Trump and his inner circle of sycophants. 

I truly hope they call Trump to testify although I seriously doubt he would have the guts to show up. 

Was Trump not convicted because he was innocent....

blah, blah, blah.  "White surpremacists", "Nut jobs"... Nice talking points.  Getting a conviction is easy when its a partisan clown show like we saw and continue to see even today.  

Do you think that Trump was innocent of inciting a riot?  Giuliani, who spoke on Trump's behalf on Jan 6th told the mob they should pursue "trial by combat". 

The more Trump supporters talk the more ridiculous they sound. 

What does Liz Cheney want investigated?  There doesn't seem to be a ready answer for that question.

Trump's role in the affair was investigated and resulted in articles of impeachment.  The security missteps and mistakes have been investigated, responsible parties identified, and fired.  The FBI has been arresting rioters and digging through their digital activities leading up to Jan 6 to build prosecutors cases.  What has the flurry of investigative activities following the riot missed?  What is a Congressional panel expected find that isn't already being investigated?

No one has explained the need for a Congressional panel with definite justifications.  The calls for Congressional investigation have been justified with political doublespeak, patriotic drumbeating, outraged chest thumping, and little more than blue smoke. 

Is this supposed to be a redux of the House Un-American Activities Committee with domestic political activity as the threat instead of communist activity?  The same question asked of Joseph McCarthy applies; have you no sense of decency?

Why did we have a 9-11 commission, or the Warren commission about the Kennedy assassination? To make sure. 

The Capitol riot is just as important as a historical event as those two events, not to mention Benghazi for which there were 8 congressional investigations. 

Do you ever listen to yourself? 

Why did we have a 9-11 commission, or the Warren commission about the Kennedy assassination? To make sure. 

These aren't the only commissions in history.  Executive Order 8983

The Warren Commission was appointed by President Lyndon Johnson and not Congress.  Warren Commission  

Joe Biden, as the new FDR or new LBJ, could take politics out of what Nancy Pelosi is doing by appointing a Presidential commission.  That would be the Presidential thing to do.

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