Biden Presidency Shaken to Core by Kabul Bombings
By: AFP
Shaken to the very core and beyond. Simply another ridiculous disaster inflicted upon upon our military by a series of bone headed decisions made by our totally bungling and inept president and his administration. It is time to mourn for those we lost and those our government is deliberately by its choice and acts leaving behind. Biden should be impeached or resign unless he gets every American out of there and inflicts sufficient retribution against those responsible for the outrage that is this day.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
The bombs that killed US service members and Afghans in the desperate Kabul evacuation inflicted another casualty on the other side of the world -- Joe Biden's presidency.
Biden took office promising calm at home and respect for the United States abroad in the wake of the traumatic Donald Trump years.
On Thursday, the deadly attack at Kabul's airport left him with a mountain to climb if he's to persuade the nation and America's partners that either goal remains achievable.
The 78-year-old Democrat was already reeling from the chaos in Afghanistan, where the US-backed government and US-created army vanished almost overnight, leaving the handful of remaining US troops and many thousands of US citizens and allies at the Taliban's mercy.
Working around the clock for 10 days, his administration had thought perhaps it could still pull triumph from disaster.
The airlift was going far better than predicted, with the US military performing flawlessly and the Taliban more or less keeping its end of the bargain in securing Kabul.
Early Thursday in Washington, the White House proudly rolled out the latest remarkable figures: more than 95,000 people safely flown out since Kabul's fall to the Taliban.
Then the bombs went off, 12 Americans died, and Biden's seven-month-old presidency was shaken to the core.
Shutting himself away with aides in the Situation Room, he canceled a meeting with state governors and told visiting Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett that their planned meeting in the Oval Office would have to wait until Friday.
As pressure mounted on Biden to face the public, the White House announced an address to the nation later Thursday.
"The president needs to be out there and taking questions," Ian Bremmer, founder of the Eurasia Group risk consultancy, said. "He is not seen as leading in a time of crisis."
- 'Blood on his hands'? -
Biden didn't start the Aghan war. That was a Republican, George W. Bush.
And Biden was the first of four presidents actually to follow through on promises to end the disaster.
But as Biden himself said, the "buck stops" with him.
That means he will not be able to escape fury and horror back home over the deaths of the servicemen -- or the political fallout.
"Joe Biden has blood on his hands," Republican congresswoman Elise Stefanik said. "This horrific national security and humanitarian disaster is solely the result of Joe Biden's weak and incompetent leadership. He is unfit to be commander-in-chief."
Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn tweeted that Biden and all his top national security staff "should resign or face impeachment and removal from office."
The Republican outcry was predictable. But the wider damage reflected in opinion polls will be more worrying for Biden.
While a USA Today/Suffolk University poll this week found overwhelmingly that Americans believe the Afghan war was not worth fighting, Biden isn't getting thanked. The poll found his overall approval at just 41 percent, with 55 percent disapproving.
"I don't know if Biden will be permanently damaged," Mark Rom, a professor of government, told AFP. "But the Republicans will do everything in their power to see that he is."
Charles Franklin, director of the Marquette Law School Poll, said that given the unpopularity of the Afghan war, Biden may yet ride the disaster out.
"The political question, once we have completely withdrawn, is whether the majority will be glad we aren't there anymore. If so, then the issue is likely to fade," he said.A
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NewsMax? Not surprised. Surprised no one had the balls to own the article either.
I'll bet the Bush presidency was "shaken to the core" by 9/11, and that the FDR presidency was "shaken to the core" by Japan's attack on Hawall. Seems to me it happens, doesn't it. The thing is that both of those events caused the whole country to unite behind its POTUS. However, there's no way that most of the right-wingers, including those on this site, have that kind of backbone and integrity, but they will jump at the chance to divide the nation even more.
Tammy Wynette just doesn't cut it anymore.
And I thought C&W fans were mostly right-wingers,
but as you said, this song no longer applies in America:
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And that is just as nations other than the "exceptional" American nation are not required to accept the "exceptional" Americans sitting in or passing judgment upon them. After all, "exceptional" America isn't the omniscient and omnipotent "GOD" that some "exceptional" Americans think it is.
And you can't stop me, a non-American Canadian living in China, from saying whatever I damn well please about your "exceptional" America. or did you happen to forget your First Amendment?
Non-Americans are still humans just like most rational Americans, no better or worse, though for anyone who continues to suck dirty Donald's dick while spouting bullshit out their assholes about how fucking great they think they are even though they worship an accused sexual predator, serial liar and self admitted pussy grabber one might begin to wonder whether they might just be bottom feeding animals who don't deserve even a sliver of pity or empathy. It's almost funny watching them desperately try and pin the blame for anything that goes wrong on those who refuse to accept their lies and warped version of reality.
So you admit that it's more likely that a non-American could be more objective on matters about America than an American. Surely that should be an obvious assumption.
"Biden Presidency Shaken To Core" = Total B.S.
The opinions of the quoted republican politicians is worthless. Who cares what they say?
President Biden is resolved and determined, and WILL deliver justice to the murderers. Trump would have sent them love letters and invited them to Camp David.
Not since 1860 have we had a President less capable of handling such an important moment.
You must have been on a leave of absence during the total failure known as the Trump administration.
No, we just don't suffer from rampant TDS.
Biden is the new reigning worst PotUS ever; and it didn't even take him 8 months to earn the title!
Trump Delusion Syndrome is running rampant. It's a deep sickness in the American body politic. The Republican Party is infested with it.
The Trumpist Big Lie manifests itself in many ways. Your comment is one example.
Did you complain when Jerry Ford cut bait and ran from Vietnam without saying a word to the American people?
Did you complain when Ronnie Reagan cut bait and pulled the Marines out of Beirut?
Did you complain when Reagan & Bush did nothing to avenge a dozen attacks on embassies?
Biden is standing his ground.
I think it's refreshing.
I was 8 years old. I believe at the time I was more concerned about not getting the shit kicked out of me by bullies. I do remember enjoying the fact that my dad returned home. Growing up in military housing I knew where Vietnam was; I knew what Vietnam was roughly about; but that was it. Tell me, did Ford leave US citizens stranded in Vietnam behind enemy lines? Did he leave them in Vietnam to meet some arbitrary departure date?
Talking to the wrong damn person. We should never have been in Beirut to begin with, so I had no damn problem with leaving. Again, did we leave US civilians stranded behind enemy lines? Did we leave them in Beirut to meet some arbitrary departure date?
Your liberal biases are really showing through. What about embassies that were attacked under Obama, remember Benghazi? What about the attacks against the US while Clinton was in charge? What about the USS Cole attack? Want me to go on? Almost forgot; what about the hostage situation under Carter? This could get very long so I will make it damn simple. I would be against any president that left US civilians and those nationals that aided us stranded behind enemy lines due to his sheer damn incompetence, period. I don't give a damn about party; left or right; or any of that other bullshit. If you don't believe me look at my comments about Bush Jr- wasn't a fan of either Afghanistan or Iraq. Obama and reentering Iraq; the two surges in Afghanistan and his SOFA agreement; Libya; Syria; Ukraine; Yemen; and his extra judicial drone killings.
You call capitulating to the Taliban "standing his ground"? Your are setting a very low bar for a very bad president.
Will it be as refreshing when Biden pulls US troops out on the 31st leaving behind thousand of US citizens stranded in Afghanistan. Not even Biden's own party says he will be able to get them all out in time. That is not even counting those that aided us; which there are far more of. Refreshing would be having a president that didn't allow it to come to this.
It's a shame no one listens to US Ambassadors in this country. ( or CBS News )
The only Americans who will be stranded have done so by their own choice.
Ambassador Ross Wilson claims he and the Embassy have been harassing and hounding Americans
in the strongest possible terms since MARCH 2021 and still the Americans stayed...
Furthermore he says they are in negotiations with the current recognized ( By China) Afghan government
to allow any Americans safe passage after the withdrawal is complete
Personal BS aside, glad you can smear shit all over each and every POTUS equally which was my original point to the one sided bitch fest about Biden.
Wrong again. Truman had an 11% approval rating, That's going to be hard to beat.
What we left behind was the following.
I call not changing the 08/31 deadline as standing his ground, because he isn't buckling to the press
or the emotional discharge by any political group. THAT is refreshing.
Get your head out of the "loser" mode and appreciate the 115,000 evacuated so far.
I know.
He didn't change a self imposed deadline that led to catastrophic consequences and betraying people to the Taliban. But yeah. Joe sure showed the world he would stick to a self imposed, arbitrary deadline no matter the consequences.
Good ole; Joe "Too stupid to change plans" Biden
, because he isn't buckling to the press
He didn't "buckle" to reality and stubbornly blundered into a totally avoidable disaster. I know, I know having allies fall from the sky as they desperately cling to jets is all part of the "plan"
You have no idea what a real disaster is or was.
Better that then cavalierly dismissing the murder and wounding of hundreds of Americans and allies in order to shill for your party at all costs.
this was before the airport disaster
He's nailed his trousers to the mast on a completely unrealistic deadline and needlessly endangered Americans, both military and civilian, in the process.
Nothing in this entire situation is refreshing
I appreciate the massive accomplishments by our military personnel. They're doing an amazing job, as usual.
However my admiration for the firemen does not lessen my anger at the arsonist.
The government of the USA made a binding contract with the Taliban,
unofficially recognizing their legal authority to negotiate an end to a 20 year old fiasco.
China officially recognized the Taliban 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Ask John Bolton what the options were.
Trump and Chris Miller had the number of troops needed down to 2,500 in a country of 38 million hostiles.
The message from the Embassy since March has been to get out of Dodge. ASAP
but Americans are ridiculously stubborn.
They would rather risk death than take proven vaccines
or risk death in a continuing civil war between ISIS and the Taliban.
But you be you with your brilliant 100% truthful opinions /s
Shill for yourself Pilgrim, you know what they say when you assume something.
What does that matter?
The Taliban did not bomb and shoot at their own checkpoints.
Grow the fuck up.
What disaster?
1.3 million casualties of military personnel in US history
620,000 due to the Civil War and 405,000 for WWII
currently the War on terror was 7,061,
now 7,074
The 'disaster' also killed 180 Afghans don't you want to blame Biden for that also?
The war on terror is far from over.
Meanwhile we negotiate with the new government for a future diplomatic presence.
U.S. Holds Talks With Taliban Over Post-Aug. 31 Presence (msn.com)
Yes the Taliban are THAT unpredictable.
Please stop spreading misinformation.
Trump had no plan to leave. He planned to win reelection and renege on his deal.
Chris Miller the incompetent Secretary of Defense says so.
Read something that isn't party tripe.
It's telling you cite a War that ended slavery and a war that stopped totalitarian imperialists as disasters.
But of course this is part and parcel of the Orwellian war being waged by knee jerk progressives on the English language in service of their partisan obessions. Of course, what happened in Kabul is the textbook definition of a disaster. As I pointed out, even Democrats Congressmen who aren't Biden lackeys have no problem calling it that.
I can't believe I have to do this since there are no good faith objections to characterizing the murder of almost 200 people as a disaster, [ deleted ] From rthe Cambridge dictionary:
Disaster:
We would expect nothing less of any loyal sycophant.
Read the article by the former Sec Def or was posting that link a waste of my time too?
Why not just skip the word salad and agree to disagree?
I will give you this though. Even though you probably only said so to be disagreeable,
you are probably the only person here who has recognized that almost 200 people
lost their lives in the suicide bombing, not just the 13 wearing our uniforms or the 15 other fighting to recover.
The deaths of 200 is significantly more than the 13 your fellow conservatives have their panties in a bunch over.
Me and my other personality.
The last two USMC killed at Saigon's Airport were "forgotten" when we "evacuated" Saigon.
A year later Senator Ted Kennedy arranged for the remains of Judge and McMahon to be returned to the States.
The last battle of the Vietnam War did not go as planned either.
The SS Mayaguez was captured by Khmer Rouge and an USMC assault recaptured the ship but found no crew members.
Assuming them to be on the island where the ship was anchored the Marines attacked Koh Tang.
They fought until they ran out of ammunition, calling for reinforcements.
Multiple helicopters were shot down over East Beach or crashing enroute killing 2 dozen airmen and Marines.
14 dead Marines were left behind and for whatever reason 3 live Marines were left on the beach.
Hall, Hargrove and Marshall were captured during the next week or two and eventually beat to death or executed.
Many remains have since been recovered but none belonged to Hall, Hargrove or Marshall.
Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command is still investigating but the site has since been commercialized and paved over or built upon.
There is no real expectation to ever close their cases.
The official government account tries to put lipstick on a pig.
Sounds like someone with serious experience writing fit reps wrote the article especially the last paragraph.
Well, the least he could do since Kennedy was instrumental in ensuring the fall of Saigon.
If you don't know something look it up and try to keep it in context.
I know speaking about geopolitics with you is a complete waste of time, but we have seen the same problem before in
the Korean conflict and in Vietnam where North & South were artificially created leaving families split on either side of
the borders.
The South VN had no stomach to fight their cousins and uncles from the north.
South Korea came within days of the same fate.
Afghanistan is 10 times worse.
It's not a right/left issue and it certainly wasn't a Democrat vs Republican issue in the late 60's and early 70's.
Both parties had pretty equal numbers of conservatives and liberals but the Democrats were still regarded as the
conservatives and dominant until Nixon won in 1968 on the promise of getting us out of Vietnam by "winning the peace".
Johnson had already halted bombing the North by air or sea.
Under Nixon and Vietnamization Nixon pushed for more training and better weapons for the South but he helped spread
the war into Laos and Cambodia too, insisting his executive powers allowed him to do so.
Congress reacted 70-16 to eliminate spending for Laos & Cambodia, followed up with more reductions in spending
and eventually the War Powers Act which Nixon vetoed but the Senate and House each overrode the veto by 244-135
and 75 - 18.
Sure, just keep throwing money at the problem.
When we stopped throwing unending money at the ARVN they collapsed.
Not nearly as spectacularly as the 'Afghan Security Forces" mind you,
but nation building isn't our thing.
It only worked when we were allowed to stay almost indefinitely in Germany, Korea & Japan.