LIEbrals will say anything ?
Funny thing....this shithole comment making the rounds....as if it's a new word no one ever heard or has ever said about others.
OMG though. It came from a leader of a country ?
Well, the LIEbral mantra about this issue, seems to not be the case, as noted by every LIEbral MSM known to man.
According to CNN's Jake Tapper.....most of what has been said about Trump, DOESN'T SEEM TRUE.
Imagine that.
Now we all know that CNN hasn't been very truthful in ALL their reporting on Trump, but as to what is noted below, are they telling the truth THIS TIME ?
YOU DECIDE !
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-haiti-shithole-poor-779571
President Donald Trump tweeted on Friday that, contrary to the breathless reporting of the night before, he never called Haiti a "shithole," but instead said that "Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country."
"Never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country," Trump tweeted.
The original comment was reported to have come as lawmakers joined the president in the Oval Office on Thursday for a bipartisan discussion on protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and several African countries, The Washington Post reported.
But one of the Democrats at the meeting, Senator Dick Durbin, pushed back on Trump's denial.
"It's not true," Durbin reportedly said. "He said those hateful things, and he said them repeatedly."
CNN's Jake Tapper also reported fresh information about the Thursday night exchange, supporting Trump's claim that he didn't call Haiti a "shithole, " but that he instead reserved the slur for African countries.
"The president did not refer to Haiti as a 'shithole' country," Tapper said, citing a "source familiar with the meeting."
"Though he DID say it about countries in Africa," Tapper added.
T apper said Trump's "take them out" remark referred to taking them out of a potential bill that would offer temporary protected status to certain immigrants.
Members of the Congressional Black Caucus had requested that several African countries be included in the immigration deal, according to a White House official speaking on condition of anonymity, the Post reported.
"[I]n a separate part of the conversation when they were referencing the diversity visa lottery, President Trump referred to people coming from Africa as coming from 'shithole countries ,'" Tapper reported.
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Weird isn't it ?
So many Stories, so many opinions.
It's like Truth or dare these days !
One thing I didn't know. It is a (racial) Slur to call another...... country .......a "SHITHOLE" now !
"According to CNN's Jake Tapper.....most of what has been said about Trump, DOESN'T SEEM TRUE."
Total BS. Jake said the comment about Haiti may not have been correct, however he went on to state "he DID say it about countries in Africa," Tapper added.
So most of what is being reported IS true, but you choose to focus on the one part that MAY not have been true according to some sources. Did Trump call African countries "shitholes"? YES! That is the main part of the story, and Haiti was being discussed just before his disparaging comments. Nice attempt to spin the conversation to "lying MSM" while completely ignoring the reality that we have an irresponsible incompetent vulgar narcissist insulting our allies.
That's NOT AT ALL what Jake reported.
Typical Liberal ! Changing words when they Don't want to see.
"most of what is being reported IS true,"
Remind me on what is being reported again ?
Are there "shithole" African countries? YES!
What spin? MSM hasn't done any reporting since the election. They, like you, have been in tantrum mode since that day.
They havent gotten over their Hillary LOST Butt Hurt Bern.................
They havent gotten over their Hillary LOST Butt Hurt Bern.................
Maybe they need more
What happens when you smear a Liberal with Prep H?
They Disappear..............
We need a lot more.
Actually it IS. You can spin it any way you want to, but Clapper's twitter feed makes it clear that he reported that MOST of what has been said about Trump [up until that moment], IS TRUE.
Of course, instead of sycophancy, one could read the entirety of Clapper's twitter thread [note that the tweet in the 'article' has a 1/ @ the end] and one would understand the ENTIRETY of what Clapper reported, instead of the truncated version 'newsweek' wants you to see. They and others love those who are willfully misinformed.
So I presume now, Clapper will have lost his luster in minds of those whose only desire is to lead lemmings off the cliff.
BTW, sad to see so many lemming lining up to follow.
Industrial Size Tubes...........
But yet Pres Obama can call an African Country a "Shit Show".
Good ole Liberal Double Standard!
Oh come on, don't act surprised.
For you or I to refer to a Country or city as a shithole is of no consequence, but the POTUS come on now.
Nope, not a liberal just expect a President to set an example and not behave like a total buffoon.
Then The Atlantic and other left wing media should have called Obama a buffoon as well. He called Libya "a shit show". Unfortunately, The Atlantic only mentioned that Obama called Libya "a mess" in that recorded interview and somehow forgot to report that Obama called Libya "a shit show" off-camera.
Obamas "Shit show".....actually MADE a mess.
Hell....Lindsey Graham said people in Mexico were coming from HELLHOLES !
No one blinked an eye.
It's ALL just about trying to get rid of Trump with Liberals.
I hear that Maxine ( I didn't call for his impeachment ) Waters....is going to boycott his "State of the union", because she thinks he's a liar. Ponder that one.
I hear Lewis is going to as well.
Yep !
Don't see a problem for anyone but the democrats on this.
Just goes to show us what they really are.
Yea, people who don't hold LIARS in high regard.
what a terrible fault, no ?
Liars hold themselves in high regard too. You don't listen to Maxy (I never said) Waters....do you.
so you think Dick is lying ?
as is Lyndsey ?
im supposing Lindsey is lying about Dick
not
telling a lie,
no...?
Skirting the CoC [ph]
that wood be fine, know...?
Add Oregon’s [Dem] Rep. Earl Blumenauer.
So, they don't hold Obama in high regard, is that what you are saying? Obama lied repeatedly and knowingly about the PPACA; but that didn't stop every member of the Democratic Party from repeating that lie or calling Obama the greatest President ever. Now, will you stop the hypocrisy on your side by condemning these idiots that are not showing up for Trump's State of the Union address for not doing their jobs as they promised to do during their campaigns?
I would say that Obama certainly had his fair share of critics, but I believe he no longer occupies that seat.
Unfortunately, YOU misrepresent Obama's reported comment to be directed at the COUNTRY and instead of what it was directed at, the MESS created by lack of leadership.
It really is alarming that so few here have any intension to debate in good faith.
do you understand what you are a tempting De Jesus Christ to say ...
good faith is overrated
I disagree. In FACT, as a community, we rely on it.
all apologies
I don't use /s tags
Need to borrow a hatchet ?
Was Obama a buffoon when he led the bombing of Libya for his oil loving allies ?
How 'bout the Syrian problem....was Obama a Buffoon there ?
Ya see....in my mind, ACTIONS speak louder than a few WORDS.
You mean like the timid wimp ass apologist-in-chief buffoon who preceded him??
Nope, I'll take blunt and profane honesty over a politically correct ass kisser like Obumfuk any day.
What about a Dem POTUS calling black Americans "niggers" in a recorded phone call?
What about SENATOR Biden's racist description of SENATOR Obama?
Democrats have always been RACISTS.
But theirs is a "Good" racism.
Nice attempts at "whataboutism" going back nearly 60 years to try and justify the vulgar incompetent you elected. Sad.
got anything from this century?
What about David Duke (R) supporting trump after his "shithole" comment? In fact, Duke said that he was losing hope that trump wouldn't make another racist comment. Not kidding, go look it up.
Only you gives a crap what David Duke says.................
Not all Trump supporters are white supremacists or members of the KKK, but virtually all white supremacists and KKK members are Trump supporters. They're with Trump and he couldn't have won the Presidency without them which is why he is so hesitant about rejecting them. “You also had some very fine people on both sides,”.
Hillary Supporters?
That deflection/derail tactic doesn't work with me. I stated facts and provided links.
You challenged me with a personal attack. Stand tall and prove that racist LBJ did not call black people "niggers" and that then-US Senator Biden did not make racist comments about then-US Senator Barack Obama. Debate Skills 101
Here's some help - Biden's comments were made less than 10 years ago.
They probably are, but the sad fact is they likely don't vote. The white supremacists are far more likely to be registered Republicans if they are out marching around together in support of Donald Trump flying their swastikas and confederate flags chanting "Jews will not replace us!" as we saw in Charlottesville.
In the last three elections I really rather doubt that a KKK Member voted Democrat.
Think About it.............
Still doesnt show that Pres. Trump supports them as liberals TRY to come across as such.
He knew, or at least his handlers knew, that tens of thousands of white supremacists voted for him, and he barely managed to win the electoral college vote while losing the popular vote by several million. He knows he can't reject their support so he dog whistles to them every chance he gets.
"I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists" - David Duke
“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the Charlottesville rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back."
Democrats like obama call foreign countries, shitshows and no one cares. Apparently, shitholes is an order of magnitude more offensive than shitshows, I guess.
Good point.
hell-hole too
That's referring to something that happened, (an event), not the people in the country or the country itself. As an example.... The RNC, where Malaria Trump plagerized a speech turned the whole thing into a 'shitshow'.
stop putting things in context,
you'll cause mass confusion
Good ole Liberal Double Standard Shinning Through........
You're correct.
Obama caused a shit show in Afghanistan and Iraq that cost the lives of US Soldiers. Obama caused a shit show with the financial status of the country. No big deal, in fact he's praised.
Trump made a comments about countries that ARE shit holes. Trump lifted restrictions on the US military so they can do their jobs. You all lose your minds (again).
I'm glad to see that you agree that the comment about Obama called Libya a 'shit show' was bullshit.
Unlike you, I don't play games. There are no hidden meanings in what I say. If I were referring to Libya I would have said Libya. But thanks for giving another example of shit shows caused by the last President.
Yet you pretend not to mean Libya when you replied to a comment ABOUT Libya. Right, no games there.
Much thanks to you for giving another example of Obama derangement syndrome.
Did I say Libya? No. I told you, if I meant Libya, I would have stated Libya. But since you agree Obama caused another country's instability to allow ISIS in, thanks.
So you didn't understand that the comment you replied to was referencing Libya. Got ya.
Did I say ISIS? If I meant ISIS, I would have stated ISIS.
BTW, glad you agree the affliction with Obama Derangement Syndrome, thanks.
A Shit Show he Created.
Obama’s whole administration was what you describe that he himself created.
This always makes me smile, Trump beat Hillary well over a year ago, Obamas presidency ended over a year ago yet somehow they continue to be part of the mix in the current equation.
Perhaps it would be better to move on from the past and focus (for longer than a minute or two) on the future and our present mess before we become a collective shithole ourselves.
Just a thought
Too late.
Then it's time to contact the New York Times. It obviously wants to keep Hillary on the front page. In today's edition, you can read a maudlin, insipid article in Sunday Review, Page 1. The online edition links it on its Home Page.
No need. Trump is the one who keeps bringing up Hillary Clinton in his tweets and in his 'speeches'. He just can't quit her.
I provided a link to the left wing NYT proving that it keeps two-time loser Hillary Clinton front and center, and you try to blame Trumpt?
'Insert hilarious laughter emoji' has become the go to for those in the fraternity who don't want to address another member's comment but are unable to refrain from making a comment, whether it's cogent or not.
Yep, they bring them up constantly and blame them for damn near everything....but as soon as we talk about jobs or the UE rate...."Oh trump did all that!!!!". Hypocrites.
Obama tried his best to turn the U.S. into a third world shithole, he really didn't even come close to succeeding, you'll notice how easy it was for Trump to undo most of the damage in his first year.
The word "shithole" -- which President Donald Trump allegedly used to describe countries from which he does not want immigrants coming to the US -- has been projected along with other messages onto his Washington hotel.
Trump is said to have made the remarks -- which he has denied but which a US Senator who was present confirmed -- at a meeting with legislators, setting off a firestorm of criticism when they became public.
"NOT A DC RESIDENT? NEED A PLACE TO STAY? TRY OUR SHITHOLE. THIS PLACE IS A SHITHOLE," read successive messages projected over the entrance of the Trump International Hotel in central Washington, according to a video posted on social media.
A flood of grinning feces emojis then stream out of the hotel's entrance as "SHITHOLE" appears in larger text above it.
Another clip shows the word "SHITHOLE" over the entrance along with an arrow pointing to the door.
The videos were posted on the Twitter account of Robin Bell, who has staged other projection protests and been likened to a "hit-and-run editorial writer" by The Washington Post.
Maybe Robin Bell was fighting fire with fire. Trump is our national child.
one case where I would not punish child abandonment
Am I mistaken? These places are not Shit Holes?
Shouldn't we as a Country be able to determine who comes into our Country? Things have changed drastically since the days of Ellis Island......We Now have a Overloaded Welfare system for one thing......We complain about low wages......Yet we allow people who will work for pennies on the dollar enter our Country.....It's not their fault that they are here using our Welfare System.........We Allow It.
It’s all relative. I think I’m living like a king, but I guarantee you Trump would call my castle a shithole. Arabian sheiks would consider Trump Tower a shithole. There are people in undeveloped countries who would consider a home with a thatch roof to be a shithole, just because their one room hut has a tin roof. The difference is that only Trump is stupid enough to open his mouth and say out loud what most people would keep in their thoughts.
Remember when Trump called the White House a shithole? It happened right when he moved into it, but I can’t even find the articles about that incident anymore because a search that mentions White House and shithole returns hundreds of hits about his current shithole statement. It’s a case of Trump’s new nastiness ‘trumping’ his old nastiness. He is nothing but a nasty piece of shit.
he should enjoy living in a shithole then, no ?
I don't recall whether or not he called the White House a shithole or some other derogatory less than suitable for him adjective.
I lean towards the latter. He definitely complained, as with any should have been surprised.
He called the White House a dump
I stand corrected - than you for the link.
yes, thank you for the clarification, but Hal, what comes out of a shithole again ...?
There is a connection. I feel vindicated now.
there is nothing my warped mind cannot connect via very expensive free association
Do you think Trump wants to turn away white Africans? My guess is that as long as white Africans have money, come on in. Who do you think he was referring to? Would he welcome a black Norwegian? Are you aware of Trump’s legal history with race?
The selective memories people have just amaze me.
Have you never seen Trump insult a white person? Where are you getting this notion that he's doing favors for white people only and wants to screw over or disrespect only brown people?
Here is a list of The 424 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter as compiled - and updated regularly - by the New York Times.
The vast majority of the people listed are white. It is damned poor evidence to show Trump disrespecting someone of color as proof that he's racist. He is an equal opportunity offender.
The birth of a progressive? 😎😇🎯
Trump's Been Telling His Golf Friends The White House Is A Shithole
Of course, anything that isn't covered in 24 kt is shit to rump.
Apparently it needed more gold fringe and gold plating. It simply wasn't cheesy enough before.
You are not mistaken. If they weren't shitholes, the millions who live there wouldn't be so desperate to leave.
If we can get over the whining about Trump and his dirty-word-of-the-day, it's definitely something that people in government should be discussing. The immigration policy of any country should be designed in such a way so as to bestow maximum benefit on that country (not some other country).
Perhaps america should take care of the shitholes it has created itself?
For Mya Fourstar, making it to college basketball – and beyond the reservation she calls home – won’t be easy.
If we really want to close off shitholes, lets start with 536 in DC.
as well as "Terrific, Tremendous, Biggly" asz he is a mental midget wrestling, and losing, with his pretzel twisted lack of logic.
U could be 100% correct. I recall him degrading the White House verbally, but not nearly as bad as his actions. I thought verb meant action....
But one of the Democrats at the meeting, Senator Dick Durbin, pushed back on Trump's denial.
"It's not true," Durbin reportedly said. "He said those hateful things, and he said them repeatedly."
WTF is wrong with Dick Durbin? Is it really the most important thing he needs to do for our country that he has to tattle on Trump to the media? I thought he was supposed to be solving the big problems facing our country - not getting Donny into Detention.
Trump has to be like, "Note to self: No more "private" meetings with Durbin. The little prick can't be trusted keep a private conversation private." A couple of months from now, Tattling Dicky will be complaining "The president never invites me to meetings at the White House and there's no reason for it."
or possibly
WTF Is Wrong with TRUMP he is a non stop liar
so definitely believe him on all things Russia, cause u know, he would never ever LIE
about anything,
just
EVERYTHING
Try to keep up. This wasn't about a lie. This was about a point of view, expressed candidly, if crudely, but for the purpose of determining the course of important public policy. It was expressed with such candor because it was supposed to be a private meeting. You may find it vulgar or offensive, but at least it was honest. Dick Durbin obviously missed the whole effing point. He obviously doesn't give a shit about solving the problem and just wanted score some political points by throwing dirt on the president. THAT should actually piss off ALL Americans.
TRump being an unstable mental midget tossing champion to his minions with Racism, Dwarfs in comparison to those a tempting De Jesus Christ, with any sordid justification for such behavior by the leading diplomat of our once great Nation, all while he pretends to be making it so sewer Grate Again.
THAT should actually piss off ALL Americans butt, some a pier to be moored n 2, like Trump, being pist upon
I can't even understand what all that is supposed to mean. Maybe try spell check or Grammarly or something.
what was the name of this article again ...?
Me either. I asked on another thread if ANYONE understands anything this dude is saying but, surprise, only one liberal stated that they understood.
i left you a decoder ring
in a rectangular box you obviously cannot open the shut folds
First, it wasn't a private meeting. Second, the lie is the current attempt to make this something, anything, that isn't racism, but it is. You can't redefine the man, its not like he keeps he private thoughts private. We've got quite the reference material to know what he means. And what he said was RACIST CANDOR. You all don't get to define what we are supposed to think about what he says! And the flaccid denials are obvious attempts to gaslight what the entire world knows.
So that whole 'telling it like it is' is only for Trump?
Donny isn't in 'detention', he's out in FL playing golf. AGAIN!
You know damn well that NOTHING is 'private' with Trump. Trump constantly repeats what others say in meetings, as long as they're positive.
Funny that you should mention invitations. It's been reported that the meeting was supposed to be JUST Graham, Durbin and Trump. I guess Trumps decided that he needed some sycophant back up. And he got it, Perdue and Cotton served up their gonads to Trump on a platter.
I am hearing that when Trump said what he said, it was actually Graham who said something to him directly. This is how grownups handle things. Weasels like Durbin run to the press and whine. The whole point of this meeting was to seriously and candidly discuss important public policy. The way Durbin leapt at the chance to throw mud on Trump, he obviously isn't interested in that.
What's more important? Solving this problem or getting everyone to be outraged at something Trump said? Durbin's sabotage shows what he cares about. What do you care about?
Well since Graham released a statement that said as much, no revelation there.
Durbin wasn't the first to tell the press. He confirmed the report.
Then it seems that Trump is incapable of being candid without exposing his racism.
After being sandbagged by Trump by including 4 MORE Republicans who had NOTHING to do with the proposal, I'm surprised he didn't walk.
The PROBLEM is Trump's racism and there IS NOT solving that.
The only saboteur is Trump.
My family and the planet, how about you?
We're all very lucky that he was golfing while Hawaii was under attack by ballistic missiles.
Trump has to be like, "Note to self: No more "private" meetings with Durbin. The little prick can't be trusted keep a private conversation private."
Is there no bottom to your depravity? You will say anything to protect this racist pig. Maybe Donald Trump, as PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES(*), should stop talking like a fucking racist, period! Apparently he didn’t learn anything from his “locker room banter” experience.
neither did many of his supporters
For the millionth time: It's not racist to describe much of Africa as a "shithole." It's just not! It's accurate.
And I'm not interested in protecting him at all. I'm interested in having honest conversations and addressing real problems. Private meetings have been held in the White House for over two centuries and in MANY of those meetings, a president or someone else has used crude language to negatively assess a person or a place.
A freaking adult understands that these conversations happen as part of governing. Only a petulant child runs out of these meetings and straight to the press to whine about someone's salty language.
Let me make something clear. Let this sink in: I actually DISAGREE with the president and his concerns on this issue. I think his talk of merit-based immigration policy reflects an ignorance of current policy and an unrealistic perspective on immigration generally. It is the thought behind his comment that should be addressed, but it's not about racism. All this racism accusation bullshit does is shut down honest conversation.
I guarantee you plenty of other people around the president - including Tattling Dick Durbin - say crude and offensive things all the time. Just look at the sexual harassment thing. People are ready to believe a bigwig like Harvey Weinstein is guilty of being a creep, but Al Franken? Tavis Smiley? Garrison Keiler? Really?
Yeah, maybe. Maybe so. So, don't get the idea that Trump is the only pig in Washington.
Context, as usual, is everything.
The lottery and chain immigration were being discussed. There avenues of immigration put this directly into the RACISM Spotlight.
I'm honestly curious why he's so concerned about the lottery. With respect to Africa, that continent actually sends relatively few new immigrants to America . And if he wants to import more doctors and engineers, they'll just be competing for jobs with American citizens who have invested a lot of time and money in their education. I'm not sure how that's an improvement.
Did the planet spin off its axis when Joe Biden said only those with an Indian accent can enter a Seven-Eleven or when President Obama described Libya as a s*** show or when Hillary Clinton called millions of Americans deplorable or when Lindsey Graham called Mexico a hell hole or when former President Obama, just the other day, said Fox News viewers are on another planet when it comes to facts, implying they are ignorant of the real facts provided by the mainstream media?
Democrats don't find it offensive to refer to members of the military as war criminals, law enforcement officers as racists and border agents as the Gestapo, and the media didn't bat an eye when Democrats defended a college student who used "F*** you, Bush" as a headline in the college newspaper, so why all the outrage about calling dysfunctional and corrupt countries who abuse their own citizens s***holes? And the answer is: In addition to trying to gain the advantage in DACA negotiations, Democrats and their media partners want to distract us from what they know is coming, i.e., evidence that members of the Obama administration abused their authority to spy on Donald Trump and his campaign and, after he was elected, used unsubstantiated information provided by the DNC and Clinton campaign to undermine his presidency. Move over, Watergate.
Yet that was how both Graham and Durbin interpreted it. What's notable, is that there is no claim by anyone at the meeting that there was another interpretation of the 'thought behind his comment'. Graham stated that he basically called Trump on his comment yet not one of Trump's minions stated during the Sunday shows or in the Congressional hearing that Trump chimed in something like, 'No Lindsey, you misunderstand me, this is why I don't want immigrants from those countries in Africa that you mentioned...'
That being said, I agree that it's the thought behind his comment that should be addressed, I'm just doubtful that it can be separated from Trump's elitism whether it includes racism or not.
So just for discussions sake, tell me about this alternative interpretation of Trump's comment.
One other thing. There have been multiple reports from multiple outlets that Trump hit the phones and was bragging to his buddies that all of this would be great with his base. Now, if as you say, Trump's 'policy reflects an ignorance of current policy and an unrealistic perspective on immigration generally' his base sure as hell have no freaking clue about it. So, if not for the racist angle, why does Trump think this will play well to his base?
He's a serial liar who has no conscious whatsoever. He will say anything, and take any position necessary to advance himself, including comparing American troops to Nazis.
He's also a history of lying about things said in Presidential meetings. He got falsely claiming a Republican told Obama "he couldn't even stand to look at him," a few years ago.
Plus, he said the most straight out racist comment of any one the last few days. He thinks black people are so stupid that they think "chain migration" refers to slavery.
Again with that canard. Does it make you proud to post misrepresentations ad nauseam?
Did your 'source; post a link to that?
Link?
Wow, you just described the Trump the entire world sees every single day.
It happened in 2013. Here: 'I cannot even stand to look at you'
So yeah, he kind of does have a history of (apparently) lying about what Republicans say in White House meetings.
So NOW you believe what the Obama Administration denials?
Hypocrisy.
I guess you think you're delivering a zinger, but you're just not making a lot of sense.
For hypocrisy to exist, I would have to be endorsing or acting against a previously declared ideology or belief. From somewhere, (probably your imagination) you have gotten the idea that I don't believe anything the Obama White House ever said. That's pretty extreme, not to mention wrong.
The White House's credibility would be especially strong in this case because they were declaring something against their political self-interest and against the interests of a political ally.
I hope that clears up the complexities of this situation for you.
It should. Well said. 🎯👍👏
Actually, I didn't say it was about EVERYTHING the Obama White House ever said. Hyperbole.
Actually, I can see the Obama Administration denying that it was said and asking Durbin to take the hit for the sake of comity. 'Better angels' and all that. Durbin never removed that post but he never talked about it again.
Perhaps it would have if it weren't for the hyperbolic snark. As it is, your misrepresentation of my comment is merely a show of bad faith.
Maybe next time you have something to say to me, you'll find a way to do it without accusing me of something that casts me as dishonest - and without evidence, to boot.
But that would require Dulay to be dishonest. Seewhudameen?
Another hyperbolic comment.
Hypocrisy, which you correctly charactorized, does not in and of itself connote dishonesty.
Tissue?