President Trump Gives Stunning Address On America’s ‘Crisis of the Soul’
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
President Donald Trump delivered a beautiful, somber monologue from the Oval Office Tuesday night to address the border crisis: “A crisis of the heart, a crisis of the Soul.”
Trump spoke to the American people with seriousness, with respect, with empathy. He spoke of the women and children who are brutal victims of the illegal immigration scourge. He did not speak in platitudes, as his predecessors did, as though Americans are beneath him. He addressed us intellectually. He appealed to our minds.
“This is the cycle of human suffering that I am determined to end.”
The speech was thorough and comprehensive on the facts: the need for $5.7 billion in funding, the human and financial cost of the drug epidemic. But he did something even more powerful, even more resonant. He appealed to us as fellow men. And he made Washington seem very, very small.
“Why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences, and gates around their homes? They don’t build walls because they hate people on the outside, but because they love the people on the inside,” President Trump said.
“This is just common sense,” President Trump said of the Wall.
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
“The only solution is for Democrats to pass a spending bill…This situation could be solved with a 45-minute meeting,” Trump said, noting that he has invited Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer back to the White House Wednesday.
“This is a choice between Right and Wrong, justice and injustice. This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to our citizens who we serve,” Trump said.
For several years now, President Donald Trump has used jokes, has used attacks, has used trick plays, has used raucous declarations to cheering crowds, to make his point that Washington is corrupt and broken, and must be fixed. These methods have been effective, hilarious, even brilliant.
But tonight he did something so much more profound: He made us understand.
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“For several years now, President Donald Trump has used jokes, has used attacks, has used trick plays, has used raucous declarations to cheering crowds, to make his point that Washington is corrupt and broken, and must be fixed. These methods have been effective, hilarious, even brilliant.
But tonight he did something so much more profound: He made us understand.”
Chris Christie has a new book coming out where he describes Trump's aides and White House cronies as grifters con men, low lifes and losers.
So much for draining the swamp. And Christie actually likes trump, lol.
LOL
"And Christie actually likes trump, lol."
LOL
I would think christie would sell more books and get more respect if he wrote a cookbook instead of a tell all book after what he''s be thru himself. Write what ya know not what ya think others want to hear.
They did. look at the crap left behind, That 's WHY ya don't drain swamps. You just take the big bad dangerous alligators out instead. Now we have a nest of vipers ta deal with left. Who knew ?
Many of us.
Someone really needs to explain to the American People that the wall is just the first layer of defense necessary to delay and divert the bad actors from overseas away from our border with Mexico. It would be part of the stateful firewall that we need down there. Traffic coming into the USA should be inspected and confirmed whether it has permission to be entering the USA. By putting up a physical barrier, it increases the likelihood that those trying to enter illegally will be caught at the ports of entry instead of just passing through wherever they want.
Exactly. I’m all for legal immigration coming in through the correct ports of entry so we know who is here and what their business is here. The wall also channels illegal invaders to areas where border patrol will be more likely to catch them or to much more impassable remote border areas.
That's true, the U.S. will never be truly safe until we invade Mexico (they have some of our oil, I mean exxon/mobile's oil, you know) and take care of those polite but disobedient Canadians and build a much smaller fence at the top of South America will heavily armed soldiers and tanks with orders to kill anything within 500 yards of the wall, and the same for the Canadian border.
In fact, bring ALL the troops home and station them on both coasts and both borders and put the coast guard along the coasts with a outer layer of the navy and air force to protect us. THEN all we need to do is destroy Iran, N.K., China and Russia and any other socialist/commie countries like them Norwegian and Scandinavian places and maybe some people will feel safe enough to get a full nights sleep. Sometimes.
S/
Damn, Nightwalker!!! What East German gave you nightmares????
lol
Nice try. But your sarcasm needs more sarcasm.
I read a lot of ScFi?
LOL
I'm sorry TwC, I just couldn't help myself.
No offense.
It was without a doubt the President's best speech. He looked Presidential and spoke from the heart. He spoke from the oval office to all Americans and made a powerful case for protecting the country and fixing are immigration laws
Indeed. He was awesome and did a great job expressing why we need the wall. Then came the clown show afterward which was a sick joke on the American people.
He's an orange clown that manufactured this "crisis"....republicans were in charge for 2 years, but NOW it's a fucking crisis....he is a fucking disgrace and he is NOT going to get "his" wall.
Twasn't from the heart, it was from the teleprompter. The words seemed wiser because they were in complete sentences and he didn't get to adlib and ape it up for the audience.
I watched it again, and the way trump squints and moves his head makes me think his opulence may need glasses.
Twasn't from his heart, it was straight from the teleprompter, written for him. You can tell, it was all in complete coherent sentences and they didn't let him adlib and ham it up with cute faces and his funny, funny insults.
I re-watched it, and he does a lot of squinting and moving his head to read the teleprompter. Does his royalness possibly need glasses, or does he truly have a reading disability?
Could be:
Yes, trump brought a real tear to my eye too, he did a decent job of reading the teleprompter, not too many stumbles and with all the sincerity a reality star with the catchphrase "You're fired!" can bring while talking about a humanitarian crisis THAT HE WORKED HARD TO CREATE.
Remember "0-tolerance?" Rip them families apart. Thank god the U.S. remembers the lessons of slave ships, so they can pack four hundred+ people in cages built for one hundred seventy. Lost children, children who died without medical care, trans beaten to death and no one knows who or how? Good job.
These detention camps are run by a non-profit they say? I'll bet that somewhere in there someone (one or more of trump's pals, perhaps) is pocketing a fair amount of extra cash and skimmed money, maybe with a little "squeeze" for trump who created a need for their services. After all, trump's personal "charity" or should I say trump's charity for trump, was non-profit too.
Next time, put someone in that can remember and deliver their lines without the ad-lib stuff and can act more sincere.
Like, say, a soap opera star. Are they all busy? Because god forbid you put someone in that knows something about law or politics or at least has a glimmer of intelligence or at the very least a little honesty. He didn't even write "master of the deal" himself, he just heard that there was money in writing a book.
The fact that no U.S. bank would loan him money anymore because of his business practices and bankruptcies MAY have been a small clue about him and his supposed strong suit, his business deals.
Sure, "the master of the deal" just wanted his five billion (excuse me, five point SEVEN billion) and as blackmail a quarter of the Government shuts down. He feels so bad for them, he's been there many times himself, no job and no money and no one to help, hence the tear.
Of course, this is only the first installment, he needs at least twenty-five billion minimum, and remember these bills that he dropped his bomb on were just a stopgap bill that covered for three months. Of course as with any Government contract, there WILL be cost over-runs, so it'll be forty+ billion.
Good thing that the U.S. prints its own money, hey? otherwise, that would be a lot of money.
A swing and a miss on his own manufactured crisis....whiny sniveling toddler in chief needs a diaper change, pacifier and his blankie.
There definitely IS a crisis in America, it's the amoral lunatic in the White House.
Trump is right and he expressed why very well. The shutdown should last as long as it takes to get partial funding for the wall. Period.
trump WAS right, Mexico should pay for a damn well if it's built, its their problem spilling into our country.
I guess that idea has come and gone though. It never was going to be a reality anyway. Mexico made that clear from day one. Now its us that he wants to build his big beautiful wall to carry on his legacy. Fuck that even border potol wants fencing not something they cant see thru to protect the homeland.
trump's stuck.,, on his wallOk well then let him pay for what HE wants, I do.
The experts want a fence. That will not last forever, trump wants a Wall that may. Why ?
Let him pay if he wants a monument or earn one so far IMO; He sure hasn't.
Did Pelosi and Schumer look like someone stuck a hand up their backs to make their mouths move, or was that just me ?
One of US.....One of US.....One of Us !
Invasion of the BODY SNATCHERS !
"Valley of the Dolls" ?
Looked sorta like Helsinki
where Putin up Trumps Rump
spoke for the Putin Puppet boy
No...…. that's not it !
What did Trump have up his spineless back when he had the nerve to say that he can relate to those affected by the shutdown?
I'm sure YOU'RE okay during this "Partial" shutdown. I know I am.
You did understand this isn't a total shutdown....right ?
You and I only know about what the "Media" seems to "Want' us to know ! It's a Hate Trump thingy dontchyaknow !
Even "THE" TSA itself, called out CNN's "Fake Report" about folks calling in sick and how dire they were. (Facepalm Face)
Spineless? Unlike Pelosi, Schumer, et al, Trump upholds his sworn oath of office and focuses on protecting US citizens and legal immigrants against the criminal actions of illegal aliens.
By the way, the "shutdown" is only a partial shutdown. No one has been deprived of a paycheck yet. It's time for Pelosi and Schumer to stop their anti-Trump agenda and stop lying to the American public.
Maybe that's all you know about it, but I am seeing the effects firsthand. And the fact that I am not personally out of work doesn't prevent me from having empathy for those who are. But that's just one of many ways you and I are different. Maybe if your tax refund is delayed, you'll feel differently, because then it actually impacts YOU.
It's rather sad that our border patrol agents and TSA agents are not getting paid - I guess the terrorist situation isn't actually an emergency as Trump claimed it is, or he'd consider these folks a lot more important than he apparently does. Same with the Federal firefighters, despite Trump's claim that they should be busy raking.
Really ?
TV ?
"Maybe if your tax refund is delayed"
I don't get much of a refund, if at all. My accountant makes sure I only have to pay into government, no more than I am required to pay into government.
It's called "MAKING SURE I KEEP AS MUCH OF MY MONEY AS I AM ALLOWED TO UNDER THE "LAW"...…..FIRST" !
"It's rather sad that our border patrol agents and TSA agents are not getting paid"
What's SAD is......our representatives haven't fixed anything dealing with the border....."Decades" before Trump came into office. Now....Trump is holding their "wimpy Placating feet" to the fire.....and they, the "Politician", doesn't like it !
I say ……. Tuff Shit on you Mr. and Mrs. Politician. We are now seeing how "Politicians" really think. They are for all …… BUT …… "Protecting this country" !
Did you know that Politicians take an "Oath" to "Protect this Country" when they are elected ?
No, that won't happen until Friday when federal prison guards and TSA agents are supposed to get paid
Did you know that politicians take an oath to uphold the Constitution - but Trump doesn't apparently care about the oath he took. His only interests are himself, his wallet, and his ego, definitely not our country.
And maybe you only get your news from TV, but I am out here in the real world. There are real people who are furloughed, or working without pay, or losing money because their customers have dropped off due to their financial situations. Just because you're apparently living in an insular bubble doesn't mean the rest of us don't actually know some of these people and some of these small businesses who are struggling - as I do.
They can file for unemployment benefits like anyone else who gets laid off.
No they can't
And which part of the "Constitution" hasn't Trump upheld again ?
"I am out here in the real world."
Wow !
We have something in common. Who knew ?
My accountant and I do the same. I've never understood why people foolishly let the the government use (borrow) their money for months and then feel good when the government "returns" that money without interest.
EXACTLY ! (confused face )
Yes, furloughed employees can.
Today is Wednesday. Maybe Chuck and Nancy will decide to stand with US citizens and legal immigrants by Friday.
A few years ago the government changed the W2 instructions form so people could figure out the right amount of dependents to claim to maximize their take home pay without owing, but many still prefer to get a refund.
got a link for that?
You think that's gonna happen? I've seen your comments and I don't think you WANT it to happen so these poor people will not be getting a paycheck on Friday. I see you can't dispute that
yes, do you?
What's it to you how people do their W-2s? Most Americans can't afford an accountant, Mr Money Bags, so why should you care that I don't do the same as you and look forward to a return every year? Does that hurt you in any way? Offend you? What?
And what's it to you that I prefer a refund?
And I'm the judgemental one.....christ on a stick!
The people who are working without pay can't.
You were the first to claim that they can get bennies. I said they didn't. It really is up to you to go first in proving your claims.
But what the hell, I looked it up because I figured you would weasel out and tell me to go look it up myself. You are correct that they can file for unemployment. But here's the kicker....they have to pay all that back when they get their back pay. And then states are all different in how long they will pay out benefits
I prefer getting about $500 back; never more than $1000. With interest rates so low, the government is hardly making out like a bandit on its use of my money. It's purely psychological, and when interest rates get higher, I'll probably change my withholdings. But losing $5 in interest isn't going to kill me, and I like getting that check.
I don't give a shit what you do. It was a comment about what some people like to do...not directed at you. Not everything is about you. Did you see your name? Exactly what is judgmental about the comment?
Ooooo.....didn't think of that! Good catch, katrix!
It's none of your business.
give it a rest
You people are so transparent
lol
Anything is possible, TG. I'm hoping for what will satisfy both "sides" after today's 3PM meeting.
Your personal, derisive opinion of me doesn't merit a rebuttal comment.
Thank-you, Colour, for doing Sunshine's homework.
However, as katrix pointed out the ones currently working with no pay can't apply for unemployent insurance. They are SOL
The people who haven't lost their jobs, but who are losing money because of the lack of customers, won't ever recoup that money, and they can't file for unemployment. I thought Trump supported small businesses? Hah.
Of course, Fox News whines that the media is hyping this up - as if presenting real facts about real people who are hurting is somehow worse than pretending Trump didn't cause this whole shutdown because Ann Coulter and others hurt his fragile ego.
But you did comment, didn't you? And still nothing about the people not getting a paycheck on Friday because you know I'm right
lol
I will stick to the sites rules not yours.
You made the first claim. That's the first rule of debate
It doesn;t matter, Colour did your homework for you.
My comment 10.3.10 was a generalized observation. I never mentioned you.
And I totally forgot about contractors. Another good point
I think she was doing it for you. But, anyhoo you where wrong.
I didn't say it was about me. My comment was to cover everybody you derisively criticized for not doing as you do. You were judgemental concerning all the people who do take a refund. And I'm saying that it's really none of your concern if people take a refund or not.
And I admitted it. I said you were correct, didn't I? What else do you want? A pint of blood?
I'm not the one who made the claim, you were and you weaseled out on proving your point. Somebody else had to do it for you.
Hello, XD ... Happy New Year!
Your comment described exactly what I've said.
You are too funny...
Everyone does what they think is best for themselves, and I don't have a problem with that.
You're the funny one if that's the best you can do
And XD called me foolish....
let that sink in
True, I did say those who get laid off.
those government employees that are considered " essential " cant not file. because they are not unemployed---
And those who are not considered essential who do accept unemployment have to pay it back if the government issues back pay. so really not that great, but ok
your comment exemplifies why this county has such a crappy person in the white house. Supporters like you dont pay attention to any details that matter.
smh
Of course they do...why shouldn't they?
I knew all the details...it was others who didn't.
Not doing any ones homework .. just looked up the information .. as I did not know the answer either.
I have been unable to verify that claim .. perhaps I am asking the wrong questions (?) would def not be the first time...
I was able to find this .. does not answer the unemployment question specifically .. it is dated .. but an interesting read nonetheless ..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/09/18/what-happens-to-federal-employee-pay-benefits-in-a-shutdown/?utm_term=.5dd000c7bda8
How could they apply for unemployment if they're working? The answer is they can't.
They're just not getting paid. YES....they will get all that back pay but that doesn't help when the light bill is due Monday and they have 30 dollars in their account.
No furloughed employee is considered unemployed .. they are government/job attached and considered 'laid off' … I have not been able to verify if an 'excepted employee' can file for unemployment benefits or not .. I ran out of question to ask!
Please explain why paying back unemployment benefit IF someone gets back pay, would be considered a bad thing .. ? I am sure some GM employees would happily pay back unemployment benefits if they could go back to work with back pay and their benefits intact
Wrong as usual.
XD's comment 10.3.22 was 4 paragraphs and encompassed much more than mentioning you. Let that sink in.
I am unable to find that specific answer can you? I can volunteer my time and be job attached - as long as I am not receiving pay... not trying to argue - just pointing out no one has come up with a source to verify said above claim...
Been there done that .. had the light bill due and no pay check coming in due to lay off - why do Americans not fight for the average American worker as hard as they seem to be willing to gnash teeth over government employees not being able to pay their bills?
Because Americans have gotten into their heads that unions are bad.
reading comprehension-- you trump folks are so quick to answer--
essential - not expected
i didnt say it was a bad thing, i said it would have to occur but that doesn't mean the money spent on stuff now , is something that someone wants to pay back later because they might be under water by then( benefits generally arent at the same pay scale.
yes i am sure they would but thats a PRIVATE company - again details . and yet you do realize that unemployment benefits does not cover or pay at that same rate as a regular job-- thus debt can STILL occur. And money even with a back pay might not make them whole, so given money is not always the first thing to occur.
I've been looking but can't find an answer, either
If you're a Fed, you can't volunteer your time for anything related to your job. For example, if you're a park ranger, you can't volunteer to clean up the parks. It's illegal for you to work at your job if you're furloughed. You're not even allowed to read your work emails.
They can't file for unemployment. They are still officially employed and working. That's why all the OPM advice on filing refers only to furloughed employees. From the 2013 shutdown:
"Federal employees can be divided into two basic categories. First, those who are deemed "essential" and asked to report to work. Their pay may be delayed, but they are guaranteed their usual wages and thus, will not be eligible for unemployment benefits.But their "non-essential" colleagues will be forced to take days off without pay until Congress reaches a budget agreement. These workers may file for unemployment because they're on a temporary layoff through no fault of their own."
there seems to be this need by some folks that act like under this man in the white house. that rules / polices / procedures / just dont matter.
And yet here we see a collection of individual members that have / would suggest through multiple posts that some how these federal employees really needed or preferred to be either furloughed or essential over what a logical person can see is just a huge temper tantrum.
I feel surrounded by fools. it makes me sad for them.
Thought so. Thanks
NO shit- i spoke to essential employees vs furloughed employees based on BEING HIRED through the federal system vs contractors or part time employees and those used via supplemental agencies.
The irony is that the very people they're relying on during this "crisis" are being forced to work without pay. And all Trump can say is "let them eat cake" - they'll adjust.
And these people still think Trump is for the little guy and can relate to regular people. I feel sad for them too. But then, they aren't personally impacted, so they don't give a crap.
Is that what they're calling compassionate conservatism these days?
tell the truth, it is so funny to me to see these type act as if they would be so willing to SWITCH spots with those affected.
And yet rent vouchers and food stamps and all the other crap this shutdown effects is something these types have no clue about enough to realize a guy with golf courses to hang out in, doesn't have to give a shit.
But maybe when one of the favorite privately owned boutiques close because they have no shoppers, then it just might matter.
As i posted a few weeks ago, the quote from the usual suspects. And each time some of these members post this seems so real.
Talk about fear mongering! Food stamp program is funded through February.
Why create more hysteria than it is? People not getting paid have enough to worry about.
Did Obama's golfing bother you so much?
Whoa .. was I rude to you? Did I call you a liberal with Trump derangement syndrome …. no I did not think I did, an apology for the insult would be nice..... but I know how 'you folks' are...
reading comprehension indeed .. did not read the link did you ..
I will not comment to you .. please do not insult my intelligence by commenting to me ..
Thanks much appreciated.....
Thanks for the link .. earlier I could find nothing to verify where the unemployment benefits line was drawn...
And the truth shall set you free!
Why, how unbelievably generous of trump not to close it all down and only put 800,000 people off the payroll, about half who have to work without pay.
No wonder some people worship at his feet.
Well, one reason to not claim a deduction is there is no worry you're going to get socked with a big tax bill in January.
The second and more important reason, when you don't claim a deduction you just forget about it for a year then when you claim all your deductions it's a nice boost when you can usually use a boost. Since you ignored the little extra in taxes and don't worry about "how much I could have had" it's like a extra Christmas present. There's a little thrill knowing you'll get money back and you're not even sure exactly how much.
People do it because it's kind of fun, adds a little excitement and brighten things up with what feels like a little free cash.
I don't expect you to give up your interest but it's just not as much fun as you track your interest so there's no surprise, just a routine math event and you may have to pay some out at tax time.
this is one of those times where YOU put your nose into something that wasnt yours to do. i was specific in my REPLY to this other member. she posted EXCEPTED i posted ESSENTIAL.
so that is the issue based on her ORIGINAL COMMENT(go back and start there. )
And FOLLOWING A THREAD is not yours. That members comment was not correct because ESSENTIAL employees can not apply for unemployment because they are NOT FURLOUGHED OR LAID OFF.
thus this members reply of using the word you keep going on about, doesn't change her original comment.
based on using her word in her reply TO ME, that member would be correct.
which would beg the question why doesn't that person KNOW the difference between the word which makes the original comment wrong and the word used in the reply.
hummmmm
for shits sake people I DID NOT USE in my reply or comment about which federal employees get paid and which dont.
i said in a reply to a member that ESSENTIAL employees must work during the shut down thus they can NOT apply for unemployement as there comment suggested.
someone replyed to me using the word excepted and added a quote.
i would be more worried as i noted in one of my most recent replies to someone else that, it would bother me more to know this person SKIPPED , DISREGARDED, or didn't understand how the word they replied with was not the word i used. And the word i used made there comment not true.
You did not follow the thread well enough to know that I KNOW an essential employee is forced to work and (BASED ON THE COMMENT I REPLIED TOO) they can not apply for unemployment.
Whoa .. was I rude to you? Did I call you a liberal with Trump derangement syndrome …. no I did not think I did, an apology for the insult would be nice..... but I know how 'you folks' are...
why would i apologize to a person who replied in such a manner that it was clear that they DID NOT OBSERVE the difference between WHAT the person i replied to said, vs there reply to me.
why would i read a link about something i know -- but clearly if you would have noticed i USED the word "essential " to reply to there statement / comment that federal employees can apply for unemployment. that is a false statement which is why i provided the word that makes there comment wrong.
BUT HERE IS A LINK FOR YOU TO READ
And i am replying to you so that other members can see that at least two of you seem to have NOT followed this thread correctly. and interacted by appearing to ASSUME that the word expected vs the word essential are compatible when discussing federal employees who have to work vs who can be furloughed. depending on noticing the word i used vs the word in a reply to me. The understanding of them would dictate which federal employee can apply for unemployment.
as noted in my FIRST comment which was a reply to a statement that was wrong on its face. when the word ESSENTIAL is used it describes bound to work federal employees based on there job designation or capacity. (officers , jailers, tsa, )
oooh dennis, she was beat by the electoral college not the popular vote.
so do you like two systems to make things happen?
for example parents do this all the time. dennis smith wants to go to the party. dennis smiths mom says yes you can go (popular vote) but you dad says NO (electoral college)
dennis smith would go to school the next day and explain to his friends that he would have been at the party of year but his mom cant over ride his dads decision.
lots of your friends would think your dad sucks -- just like most folks now realize the electoral college got it wrong.
No, the electoral college got it exactly right as it was designed to do by the writers of the constitution. It is the process by which we elect our President and it worked as it was supposed to. The winner of the majority vote in each state and a district got the electoral votes of each state and the district according to their election laws and the constitution. Whether Trump wins states by 10,000 votes or Hillary wins some by millions is as it should be absolutely meaningless as to who gets the electoral votes for that state. Besises, this way it’s fun to tell 5,000,0000 California and New York voters how meaningless their votes are.
President Trump gives stunning address
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me thinkin the only thing Trumppy should be adreessin is how he used to undress Putin with his eyes all a distant and dreamy,
or, how he used selfie stix to look up womens addresses
ick, I don't want him tellin' that sort of thing.
more like a comedy monologue of bullshit
he can lie and beg,
grovel and crawl.
but putin's puppet
ain't getting his wall.
The shutdown will last until we do get funding for the wall however long that takes.
Now the orange conman traitor in chief wants to cut FEMA funds to California. He is a FUCKING disgrace!!!!!!!!
President Trump threatened to cut federal emergency funding for California’s firefighters in the middle of a partial government shutdown.
On Wednesday morning, Trump complained that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) sends billions of dollars to California to fight fires that are the result of poor forest management.
“Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forrest [sic] fires that, with proper Forrest [sic] Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!” Trump tweeted.
Isn't that disgusting? Bad enough that the firefighters are not out there doing fire prevention work because of the shutdown ... and if there is a fire they'll have to fight it without a paycheck ... but now the toad wants to fuck over American citizens who have lost their homes ... and he doesn't seem to realize that it's HIS job to ensure that the forests are managed properly. He's probably never even been in a forest; it might hurt his bone spurs.
Luckily, in this case it's probably just his normal asshole bluster. FEMA doesn't have anyone on duty who can carry out these orders, most likely.
You guys are absolutely hilarious! Donald Trump could tread six inches of water and progressive liberals would still hate his guts and find something to hate him for or invent something because the Dems lost the election. You would want him to walk on the water....
Well he's been to one in Finland. He says the Finns rake their forests.
You describe TDS quite well. Trump is right about trade, right about the economy, and right about the need for a border wall.
I'd be happy if he just acted like a decent human being and not a whiny toddler. I've despised him for decades - during most of which he was a Democrat. Democrat or Republican, he is just despicable.
while the taxpayers are stuck paying for water logged goobers that are too stupid to buy flood insurance in flood zones and live in states with lax building codes
Well, nobody can buy flood insurance right now even if they want to be responsible, because of the shutdown.
Seems to be a problem with that link, and FEMA...
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /.../How-Buy-Flood-Insurance on this server.
Due to the lapse in federal funding, this website will not be actively managed. More Info .
this link still appears to be functioning
No you can't. They are furloughed.
And a licensed agent will tell you that he cannot submit the NFIP application to FEMA because they are closed and unfunded.
No flood insurance policy, no sale.
Yet the butt head in chief has no problems spending millions of dollars on his golf.
What's both kind of funny and kind of sad is the areas most hurt by the Campfire now getting FEMA money, voted largely FOR Trump. He really can't think past then end of his twitter app.
He has come through for victims of the Carr and Camp fires so far.
And he just said that he is cutting off the FEMA funds. He also insulted the victims of those fires .. and couldn't even get the name of Paradise right. Pretending to have empathy isn't something he ever manages to pull off.
Tell that to the people that are still living in tents and just heard he wants to cut funding.
3/4 of our forests here in CA are managed federally but he blames us for our fires due to poor management. I would hate to have his nerve in a tooth,
I wonder if everyone was so upset when Obama laid off federal workers.
This is a manufactured crisis of his own making because he couldn't get his precious wall money.
Why is that? What did he manufacture?
Where you this upset when Obama shutdown the government? And furloughed employees.
Republicans had 2 years to do this and now that they lost the House all of a sudden this is a crisis, bullshit
Didn't Trump campaign on this as a crisis?
Just red meat for his base.
And they eat it up.
This isn't about past shut downs.
Why not? Federal employees weren't laid off then?
Yes they were. It was wrong then and it is massively wrong now. But I forget, he can do no wrong with you.
On this issue he can do no wrong as long as he presses for walls/fences along the border as part of the overall effort to protect the country at the border. As far as we are concerned the shutdown can last literally forever until democrats compromise with us on this issue. We will never give in to Pelosi and Schumer’s bullying.
There was a court case there, by federal workers. The case found making people work without pay was unlawful and the government owes them back pay (which was paid) and damages which are still (4 years later) being calculated. A person can't be both a budget conscience conservative and still support this shut down.
What is the cost of illegal immigration to the US?
No matter what solution is implemented there will still be illegal immigration AND damages to federal workers to pay out.
Of course there will still be illegal immigration, but it can be curtailed greatly with the right measures. And what we have been doing is not working. It is on the increase again, and overdoses from drug use is the number one killer for those under 50 years of age, increasing at an alarming rate. It needs to stop, something needs to be done. Our kids are dying. Not only do they need mental health services....the flow of drugs needs to stop too.
I have to laugh at people that think it will be solved magically.
Like, give trump billions and the so called crisis will go away.
Most drugs do not come over a fence.
The majority come through ports, airports, non sea ports, legal border crossings and even the US mail.
Then there is pills.
Doing nothing is hilarious...SMH. Just let it go like we have for last 30 years.
I would think heroin would come thru sea ports and air ports because I don't think heroin is produced in Central/South America. I could be wrong
So it has been a problem for thirty years, and just because trump says so, it has to be done now and a wall will solve everything.
Yeah right.
And to think people believe trump, that hires illegals at his properties and imports people to work.
I was reading about it the other day. I don't remember the exact kind of drugs but they don't even bother with the border. They send the drugs to other countries, then ship it here.
Some even send it in the mail.
Drug overdose is an epidemic/crisis in the US and those who want to do nothing only because it is Trump are pathetic.
A wall will not do anything to stop it.
Laws do nothing to stop anything as well, so should we just remove all laws off the books? What about the US Constitution, it does nothing to stop Democrats from violating one of the first duties of government as stated in its preamble: Provide for the common defense.
A Libertarian wet dream.
Providing for the common defence is spending billions building a wall that will do little to nothing to stop said problem? Don't buy it.
I have posted several times that the Democrats backed a bill that trump would have had money for his wall. It was a more comprehensive bill that included other aspects including dreamers and green card holders.
trump said no.
So instead of a more comprehensive bill he only wants a wall. Seems counter productive to me.
Illegal drug use has doubled since 2015. If you listened to his address, he agreed to more comprehensive measurers which would include port of entries.
I didn't listen to his address. Not worth it.
trump changes what he wants on a regular basis.
I actually started to, till I realized I didn't trust any of the numbers he was throwing out. Then I changed the channel.
Even when Sanders lied about the numbers, they just brush it off.
Wrong. He wants border barriers to be a part of the comprehensive solution he mentioned last night.
Keeping up the faith in the faithless.
trump could have had it all close to a year ago. He changed his mind.
He does not negotiate in good faith. He is an idiot that doesn't know a good thing when it smacks him upside the head.
Congress needs to do their own thing and bypass him.
We who support the wall are willing to keep the shutdown going exactly as long as it takes to get wall funding into the budget. We want it even more than you don’t want it, and we are totally prepared to keep it going as long as Trump is President. Our support for his position on the wall is never ending.
I'm not the one that is essentially making the argument to get rid of the laws, since they don't do anything and we spend trillions of dollars to enforce them. Heck, we spend over $20 billion a year just to enforce the immigration laws that do nothing to stop people from crossing our borders. A wall is far more effective than a piece of paper that says that it is against the law to cross the border without the proper paperwork to show you have actual business within the country.
Actually, the bill that Democrats were pushing would have no funding for any type of wall or fence. Pelosi even stated so multiple times that there would be no funding for a wall, just nebulous border security. So, of course Trump said no to that. If it doesn't contain funding for a physical barrier, it is not comprehensive.
How much do you spend on internet service? No need to tell me, I want you to just think of it. Do you know that the router you are most likely renting from your Internet Service Provider has a firewall on it? Without that firewall, the chance that your computers at home would be hacked would rise exponentially. You probably don't know how many different attacks the firewall has actually stopped until you check any logs, if you have logging enabled. Right now, we have no idea how many people cross the border illegally; because we have nothing that actually logs the numbers. We have estimates, and those estimates are probably very low. So, in reality, your computers are better protected than the country right now. But, instead of using every single tool that can possibly be used, what you want to do it make sure we never put up the firewall on the network that is the United States and hope that attacks would just not occur.
Again,
trump had his bill and what he wanted. He is playing games.
You can recite the computer mantra all you want, doesn't change reality.
Will a fence or wall work between two larger cities? Yes
Will a fence or a wall work on a river? Blocking view, diminishing growth, blocking wildlife, locking people off of or taking their property... No.
LOL
I imagine "we" don't work in anything that is affected by the shutdown, do "we?"
I know you love the country SO much and are so proud of it., too bad you don't like more then 70% of the people and almost none of the rules or laws.
You love this country so much, you and some friends want to tear a chunk out of a couple of states and make one of your very own.
Sure sounds like patriotism and love of country and respect for it to me.
Of course only RW'ers are patriots and love America...That's a known fact among many of right wing. To bad it's simply not true. Waving a flag and declaring yourself a patriot doesn't make a patriot in the real world.
So each day we have to see that nonsensical articles on how evil/non patriotic the left is. I guess the more the so called patriots toot their horn more BS fly's.
I would be interested in hearing what your definition of a patriot is in America.
By far the US Coast Guard seizes more drugs than any other agency. The often find them in by the ton and not by the pound like BP and DEA.
Oops. Coast Guard is shut down. So ... apparently this "crisis" isn't that important after all.
Approximately 42,000 active-duty military members of the Coast Guard remain on duty during the partial government shutdown that began Saturday, but they will work without pay until further notice, according to a statement from a Coast Guard spokeswoman.
Ah, apparently it's the civilian Coast Guard employees who are furloughed (and were given advice about having yard sales to pay the bills). Still, if this terrorist threat were so real, the Coast Guard, the TSA agents, the Border Patrol agents would be getting PAID for their work.
I believe they are on duty because they are deemed ESSENTIAL.
If they're so essential, then they should be getting paid.
The House just passed a bill to reopen the Treasury Dept - using the same bill the GOP passed last year. If Trump really were sincere, he'd sign it, since the Treasury Dept has nothing to do with his wall. But since this is all about his ego and his fear of Ann Coulter and Fox News saying mean things about him, he'll probably veto it.
Good morning Doc, since there have been a number of article regarding the evils liberals/democrats/progressives and also that they are not patriotic, I've asked the same question to the author of the continuing series of ''bad liberal/democrat/progressive'', good conservative and he never gave me an answer on what made him more patriotic then me.
To me a patriot is more than just waving the flag and declaring America right or wrong.
It's the willingness to face our shortcoming as a nation and to acknowledge our mistakes whilst at the same time striving to make our country a better place for all people.
It's extending a hand to those in need. To fight for what you believe is right irregardless of what others think about it.
To exercise your right to vote and never, in any way, shape or form allow that right to be taken from you or any American.
To serve in the military or if your not able to serve your country in other ways. (Peace Corp etc).
To hear out those with an opposing opinion and to accept those of a different color, religion etc as equals even if you do not agree with them.
To always do your best no matter your station in life.
I could go on but you get the point I'm sure.
I agree that they should be getting paid, but it has nothing to do with the reality of a threat, as you proposed.
They are deemed essential for many safety reasons including the threat of terrorist, that is why they are working without pay.
It does have to do with the reality of a threat. When someone is worried about how their family will pay their bills, they can't focus as well on their job. Morale goes down. Fewer people will want to take these jobs in the future. Some people will just find other jobs (of course my military Coast Guard friends don't have that option - they have to serve their entire time - but the civilian Coast Guard folks, and the TSA and Border Patrol agents certainly have that option).
I doubt anyone in one of those positions are going to not focus on the safety of others. Government shut downs are really not that common, and doubt they effect any employment decisions. These people will perform their jobs and put the safety of others first, regardless of pay.
The threat of terrorism doesn't stop for pay or no pay.
Not sure a drug smuggler or terrorist takes that into consideration.
trump had what he wanted last year. There was a compromise made and Democrats voted for it.
The republicans balked when trump said no.
trump does not negotiate in good faith. He changes his mind on what he wants then muddies the water with lies.
Trump wants to negotiate.
Yeah right. That is why the teletubby in chief walked out of a negotiating meeting with his usual infantile Bye Bye when he didn't get his way.
It takes 2/3 of both houses acting in concert to bypass a president and override their veto power.
I love America and despise the government of and people of Californication’s coastal urban cesspools. So, you bet that I support building wall structures along the border as part of comprehensive immigration reform and that I support giving America its 51st state carved out of the piece of crap 💩 that is its 31st state.
It will never reach his desk as the Senate has said it will not even take up legislation from the house that will not get the President’s signature.
Sounds more like you love your vision of what America should be more than what America is in reality.
PS:I dont think you're alone in that.
Lol, keep California Dreamin' of the 51st state of jefferson. Will never happen
California is no dream. It’s a living nightmare of a state and government. It is the definition as a state of what Trump is alleged to have described certain countries as. 💩
If it's so bad then move since a 51st state will never happen
It’s not that bad here because locally we self rule here. Our city councils and county boards of supervisors are quite conservative and our schools, libraries, parks, etc are well run. We live far enough away from the coastal cities that they and the people who live in them have limited direct control over our daily lives. There is no doubt that our region would be economically better off if we were not a part of the state of Californication. It is being a part of this state that has until recently depressed our area economically. Now though due to our lower taxes and economic incentives our area does financially better than much of the state when cost of living is factored in. With our vastly lower real estate costs we can even buy bonds cheaply enough to fix and update our schools with borrowed non general fund money the rest of the state can’t touch to fix theirs.
“This is the cycle of human suffering that I am determined to end.”
CRS estimates the total number of noncitizens incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails—a subset of all criminal aliens—at 173,000 in 2009
An estimated 88,0008 people die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, is second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9
firearm deaths Number of deaths: 38,658
What "cycle of human suffering that I am determined to end" is next ? and at what cost ?
PS: I could not find the numbers of us that illegals have actually killed I'm guessing its fewer than the main three listed though.
Personally as a non drinker I hope he does go after alcohol restriction again. I'm sick of seeing peoples lives destroyed and then die from alcoholism.
If you choose not to drink, that's your choice. I wish nobody would drink soda or eat junk food, due to the obesity epidemic - but you can't force people to be healthy. Trump is ignoring a very real crisis, the opioid epidemic - and the fact that junkies are using illegal drugs doesn't do a thing to stop the crisis.
While true alcoholism has been an ignored national crises for decades. You are correct you can not force people to be healthy, but, having deadly drugs like tobacco and alcohol at every convenience store in the nation doesn't help and probably does more damage and kills more of us than the illegal drugs trade. Our War on drugs never even considers alcohol a major part of the American drug problem.. On no its all that horrible non deadly marijuana. Meanwhile millions are dead from alcohol... Go figure, WTF is our common since ?
And Yes after watching my entire immediate family die of alcoholism, I no longer drink myself and sure feel sorry for those who do to the point it steals their happiness, health and then their life.
To each their own, Just dont forget about the pain and suffering that goes with choices for others and the society.
I have a friend whose mother is literally eating herself to death. Obesity is just as much of a health problem as alcoholism, if not more. Although it doesn't impact other people as much; nobody dies just because someone else is obese (except for children whose obese parents are raising them to be obese themselves).
Regarding tobacco, alcohol, fattening foods (also at every convenience store) - if people want it badly enough, they'll find a way. It does suck that in inner cities, often the only places nearby to shop are convenience stores which sell mostly unhealthy things.
Just think, if we legalized pot at the Federal level, we'd save enough money from the War on Drugs (not to mention the sin taxes we'd impose) to pay for whatever border security we need!
If walls don't work...why does San Diego have one?
SAN DIEGO—The county once known as “ground zero” for illegal immigration in the United States has become a model of successful border security that the rest of the country is now looking to emulate.
This began, fittingly, with a wall—or to be more precise, a crude barrier of sheet metal supported by metal poles. This original barrier wasn’t meant to stop people. It was initially just meant to stop cars and trucks carrying migrants and drugs into the United States.
Yet this barrier triggered a process of trial and error with border walls that, over the course of 2 1/2 decades, has reduced the number of apprehensions of illegal aliens in San Diego from more than 628,000 in fiscal 1986 to its current number of around 30,000 a year.
I would say that is different.
That is between built up cities.
It is not blocking a river or someone's access to their land.
The point is walls work. You may not want one for other reasons, but they do work. The folks in San Diego appreciate it.
You do know where the border wall for San Diego is?
Me thinks TDS is the driving force.
We might as well teardown prison walls, if walls don't work.
They have the legal right at a legal opening to the US, or one year after entering. They do not have a legal right to cross anywhere. Hence, the wall is to keep them out and someplace else...gee kind of like a prison. Keeps us out and the prisoners somewhere else.
That homework thingy is good advice.
We can control where asylum seekers apply for it here. There are legal ways to apply for it.
The bottom line is what you said. TDS is the driving force but their real hatred is more directed at us than at him. They hate those of us who voted for him/support him now even more than they hate him.
From the wonderful "Godess" Nancy this morning - "I'm not for a wall," Pelosi said repeatedly at the press conference, referring to $5.7 billion funding for the border wall Mr. Trump is requesting in order to sign bills funding the government. "Insistence on the wall is a luxury the country can no longer afford."
Butt Nancy - this country can afford spending $115B ANNUALLY to HELP your poor future voters?????
The southern border is not being overrun by undocumented immigration. Arrests at the border have dropped to numbers not seen since the early 1970s. Immigration from Mexico, in particular, has fallen to historically low levels. The number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States has been declining steadily since at least 2007. Over the past 10 years, undocumented immigration has increasingly taken the form of visa overstays rather than unlawful border crossings. Immigrants are also putting down stronger, deeper roots in America. Almost 7 out of every 10 immigrants in the United States have been living here for over a decade, building peaceful and hardworking lives that affirm the American ideal and contradict Trump’s nativist demagoguery. When uprooted, their stories of deportation are harrowing .
Contrary to what Trump said, the vast majority of those detained at the country’s southwest borders are not potential terrorists, drug dealers, or mobsters, but unauthorized immigrants, petty thieves, or drunk drivers, hardly deserving of a national emergency worth billions of dollars. There are not many gang members either. In 2018, Border Patrol agents identified 728 immigrants with possible gang affiliations, not insignificant but a number far less alarming than the supposed savage multitude Trump will lied about.
Contrary to the administration’s wild claims , border agents caught only a handful of immigrants classified in the terrorist database in the first half of fiscal year 2018, not the thousands the administration insists are threatening the country and crossing the border. And what about drugs? By the DEA’s own account , the solution to drug trafficking lies in more sophisticated and effective inspections across the border’s points of entry, not in the costly and unproductive erection of a wall.
Trump not only lies to me and other liberals … HE LIES TO HIS BASE! The difference between MY being lied to and Trump's base being lied to … I RESENT THE LIES WHILE TRUMP'S BASE NEEDS TO BELIEVE THEM AS "VALIDATION" FOR THEIR FLAWED AND RATIONALIZED VIEWS OF REALITY.
A reasonable individual resents having someone spit in his face and tell him "it's raining!"
Well A. Mac - you need to stop reading those stories written by the MSM and, ironically, the vast majority of folks living UP NORTH.
Here - read this -
Additionally, read this
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/border-wall-reality-immorality-hypocrisy-carlos-xavier-carrillo/?fbclid=IwAR3aEhopYhWu6t4kEem2_1N10bzj7hMNFpwqzhkCGsMVq0rrkyn9M_9rUjQ
REALITY: A border wall will not end illegal immigration. It will not end drug smuggling, it will not resolve the Nation’s border security challenges going forward, and Nancy Pelosi has proclaimed a border wall immoral.
Now to clarify; what a border wall/barrier/fence is is a strategic piece of border security deterrence infrastructure; a man-made obstacle that must be negotiated, circumvented or defeated by any person intent on illegally traversing the border.
Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge and experience in border enforcement agrees that a strategically located and robustly constructed border wall, barrier or fence is only immoral if the intent of it is to NOT deter, delay, mitigate, and in many cases stop pedestrian and vehicular traffic from illegally crossing the border. A border wall is an essential force-multiplying component of a thoughtful, cost-effective and comprehensive border security plan. A border wall/barrier/fence diverts illegal traffic away from busy border urban centers to less populated locations that provide less urban cover and concealment; accordingly enhancing the capability of border security personnel to react, identify, respond, and interdict the illegal border crosser(s).
Unqualified political talking-heads and pundits incessantly parrot grossly inaccurate characterizations of the effectiveness and ineffectiveness of respective border security infrastructures. They espouse hyperbolic anti-border wall rhetoric, while dismissing the real-world expertise of the tens of thousands of frontline border security experts of CBP and the U.S. Border Patrol. Attention craving “personalities” of the pro-Obama anti-Trump mainstream media, hungrily lap-up baseless anti-border-wall dribble and, under the guise of journalism, shamelessly inject their own brand of race-baiting venom and misinformation into the border wall debate. Why? Because they’re desperate to drown-out the empirical data that supports President Trump’s position on the border wall.
Reality is that inadequate border deterrence infrastructure, insufficient detection technology, obsolete asylum policies, insufficient detention and transportation resources, ineffective and limiting detention rules and the lack of a national electronic employment verification system all represent serious vulnerabilities that are exploitable by terrorists, transnational criminals, gang members, drug smugglers and economic migrants taking advantage of existing loopholes in asylum law.
It is hypocritical for politicians, who previously supported a border barrier, to now conveniently dismiss a border wall as “immoral” and ineffective. It’s time to call-out the self-serving political hypocrisy surrounding the border deterrence infrastructure debate and expose it for what it is, because it’s never been about cost, morality or effectiveness. What it has been is a garish effort to undermine our Nation’s President, plain and simple. It is “anti-Trump at any cost”. It is Democrat obstinacy disregarding the security of American communities. Why? Because they lost the presidential election
What is immoral is the Democrats’ refusal to fund construction of a border wall/barrier/fence. Immoral is the failure of politicians from both parties to work together to legislate a body of asylum and immigration laws that substantiate 1) this Nation’s sovereignty 2) the rule of law and 3) protects the lives of American citizens and immigrants alike.
REALITY: Until the Congress acts, so-called caravans of economic migrants, enticed by smugglers, the promise of sanctuary cities and jobs, will risk lives, converge and create chaos on the US/MEX border, knowing they have the option of asylum loopholes and a porous border; as will every terrorist, transnational criminal, gang member and smuggler among them.
A border wall DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PRIMARY REASONS THE VAST MAJORITY OF "ILLEGALS" COME TO ENTER THE U.S, NOR WHERE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY COME FOR ENTRY!
Nor does it provide for intelligent strategies to mitigate motivations based upon those reasons.
Within the last week or so, I offered to post specifics regarding the reasons along with specific ways to address those reasons … that offer made with the condition I would make the post upon the specific request of the first member to do so … WITH THE STIPULATION THAT SUCH MEMBER WOULD PROMISE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AGREEMENT WHERE HE SO AGREED, AND/OR PROVIDE SPECIFIC COUNTER-ARGUMENTS FOR ALL ITEMS WITH WHICH HE DISAGREED.
Not one taker!
As for your link … the Author of the opinion, IS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR … could it be, among other structures …
HE DOES WALLS?!!!!!
Witness credibility lacking here, Counselor!
Carlos Xavier Carrillo's Email and Phone
Independent Contractor @ DECO, Inc
Carlos Xavier Carrillo's Email
Oh yeah - A RETIRED BORDER PATROL OFFICER - does that mean that now that he's retired, he can't work????????
Nice try.
And an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR …
… you know … contractors do things like building walls.
It called "conflict of interests," my friend.
For those not familiar with the term …
A conflict of interest (COI) is a situation in which a person or organization is involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, and serving one interest could involve working against another.
Advocating the implementation of that from which the advocate might directly profit or otherwise benefit … is one such example.
Yup - had to sign one of those stupid agreements that said I wouldn't go into business competing against the gvmnt and that I couldn't work for the Feds for one year after retirement.
BUT, as you well know, when retired and after that little legal piece of paper has expired, you can do what you damn well please whether others like it or not. As a former BP agent, seriously, what better business to get into since you already know what the issues and safeguards are, eh?
The Voice of Reason …
Click the link and and gain insight.
Yes for the leftists that get their news from Comedy Central and Mother Jones Brent Terhune would be a step up.
No President has blamed others more than Obama did.
He even blamed the Founding Fathers. lol
Are you kidding me.......Trump has NEVER taken the blame for ANYTHING in the last 2 years.
When you're finished laughing, I challenge you to post SPECIFIC EXAMPLES in addition to specifics regarding comparisons to blame-laying by other Presidents.
You Trumpians are big on making allegations and pronouncements without validation or particulars … what's frightening is that you actually seem to believe the stuff you post.
You didn't pay attention...Bush, Fox News where the cause of all of his disasters. Did he ever take responsibility for anything?...oh yeah he killed Bill Laden.
You liberals don't pay attention.
Oh, you mean the Democrat John Burroughs who used to hang around with Teddy Roosevelt, Henry Ford and others???
Do explain to me how his quote …
“A Man Can Fail Many Times, But He Isn’t A Failure Until He Begins To Blame Somebody Else” …
… is in any way rendered invalid, inaccurate, inane or lacking a salient point because of who he used to hang around with?
Got any problems with the fact that …
John Burroughs was an American naturalist and nature essayist, active in the U.S. conservation movement. The first of his essay collections was Wake-Robin in 1871.
Or how 'bout with all his "subversive," liberal writings?
His publications include: Notes on Walt Whitman as Poet and Person (1867), Wake Robin (1871), Winter Sunshine (1875), Birds and Poets (1877), Locusts and Wild Honey (1879), …… (1881), Fresh Fields (1884), Signs and Seasons (1886), Indoor Studies (1889), Riverby (1894), Whitman, a Study (1896), The Light of Day (1900), Squirrels and Other Fur Bearers (1900), Literary Values (1904), Far and Near (1904), Ways of Nature (1905), Bird and Bough (poems) (1906), Camping and Tramping With Roosevelt (1907), Leaf and Tendril (1908), Time and Change (1912), The Summit of the Years (1913), The Breath of Life (1915), Under the Apple Trees (1916), and Field and Study (1919).
Can you name some of the people with whom Trump HANGS … ooops …
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason …
Where you and I have common ground on this …
One needs to be careful with whom one hangs.
FYI: Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican as was Ford prior to 1918. Burroughs accompanied many personalities of the time in his later years, including Theodore Roosevelt , John Muir , Henry Ford (who gave him an automobile, one of the first in the Hudson Valley ), Harvey Firestone , and Thomas Edison . In 1899, he participated in E. H. Harriman 's expedition to Alaska .
Anti-semite, Ford was a poor choice for Burroughs … same sort of questionable stuff like accepting shit from tyrants, offering them expensive condos, doing the quid-pro-quo thing …
Wake-Robin was his best - Far and Near second and The Summit of the Years his next.
Although we disagree on matters political, I appreciate our friendship … and we have some good ol' butt whooping debates!
Especially the founding fathers. Obama hates the constitution they came up with.
Please, by all means, POST SPECIFIC EXAMPLES SUBSTANTIATING AND ILLUSTRATING YOUR PRONOUNCEMENTS!
Go ahead … and I will agree with or debunk your specifics as required.
Otherwise … "KEEP AMERICA OBJECTIVE AND INTELLECTUALLY CREDIBLE."
Your memory must be better than mine, I don't remember trump taking the blame for anything, ever. My memory is so bad I can't even remember all the times that the GOP accepted blame for anything they ever did either.
That’s because all the blame for all that has gone wrong in America since WWII ended is on the democrat party.
Whataboutism
Something that runs in epidemic proportions within the ranks of the left..
That’s for sure. You got that right.
Click the link and get clarification …
Oh! Oh now I Understand, What the Fuck was I Thinking?
"During the campaign, I would say Mexico is going to pay for it. Obviously, I NEVER SAID THIS, and I never meant they are going to write a check!"
And she was one hell of an actress - miss her.
Donald Trump is quick to cast aspersions, mock, call names, wrongly accuse and disparage even accurate, factual information … and, even quicker to cry "foul" and lay blame when he is accused, rightfully so in most instances, when called on his adolescent, unjustifiably mean-spirited, hostile, disingenuous behavior.
Just sayin'.
He can't even keep his lies straight.
So he never said they were going to pay for it but he is saying they are going to pay for it.
How anyone can still support this idiot is beyond me.
How anyone can still support this idiot is beyond me.
He is the "Jess Willard" of ethnic purists in America …
I can think of only one good aspect to this Trumpty Dumpty wall. It has to be sunk quite deeply to provide stability. That will disrupt the numerous sophisticated tunnels used to transport drugs from Mexico to the US.