Mueller report summary released, showing no definitive proof Trump team conspired with Russia
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Attorney General William Barr on Sunday released the "principal conclusions" of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's completed Russia probe in a bombshell four-page letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers, which stated definitively that Mueller did not establish evidence that President Trump's team or any associates of the Trump campaign had conspired with Russia -- "despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."
For Trump, who has tweeted more than 230 times that he did not collude with Russians, the moment amounted to a near-total vindication. Although Mueller noted that his report was not an "exoneration" of Trump, Barr wrote, the "report does not recommend any further indictments, nor did the Special Counsel obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public."
Mueller's team specifically looked into two Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 election -- first, the work by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to "conduct disinformation and social media operations" designed to "sow discord" in the U.S."
Aaccording to Barr's letter, "The special counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its effort" to interfere with the 2016 presidential election in that manner.
Next, Mueller investigated whether the Trump team was involved in the hacking of emails, many of which were released publicly, that belonged to the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).
"The Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated" with Russians who worked on those hacking efforts, according to Barr's letter, "despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."
Mueller's report did not reach a conclusion on whether the Trump campaign obstructed justice, and left that decision to Barr and officials at the DOJ. But Mueller "recognized," according to Barr's letter, that the lack of evidence that Trump was involved in collusion would undercut any obstruction case -- which would depend on showing a corrupt intent by the president.
"The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other - as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction," according to Barr's letter. "Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as 'difficult issues' of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction."
Barr'rs letter concluded: “After reviewing the Special Counsel’s final report on these issues… Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”
“Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president," Barr stated.
Barr said Mueller's team had "thoroughly" investigated allegations that Trump's team sought to conspire with Russians or obstruct investigators. Mueller said he employed 19 lawyers and approximately 40 FBI agents, executing hundreds of search warrants, 10 pen registers, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.
Barr's disclosure was a capstone moment following the 22-month investigation that ensnared six former Trump advisers and associates -- but resulted in no indictments related to collusion with Russia.
The letter promised to settle some of the largest outstanding questions of the Mueller investigation, even as Democrats on Sunday vowed to press on with other investigations, and members of both parties continued to push for the public release of as much of the Mueller report as possible.
Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday that he believed there remained “significant evidence of collusion” linking the Russian government with President Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. Schiff said Democrats might subpoena Mueller if the full report is not released.
House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., speaking to "Fox News Sunday," insisted, "So we know a lot of things and maybe it’s not indictable, but we know there was collusion. The question is the degree."
Democrat congressional leaders scrambled to respond to the end of the Mueller probe this weekend, holding an emergency conference call and discussing potential next steps.
A top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee conceded to reporters Saturday that Barr's release of Mueller's conclusions likely would be a cause for celebration among President Trump's supporters -- many of whom have stood by the president for more than two years amid a torrent of unproven allegations that the Trump campaign illegally worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
"It's the end of the beginning but it's not the beginning of the end," Delaware Sen. Chris Coons said, echoing his party's strategy of moving forward on to other investigations, including probes into Trump's financial dealings. "Once we get the principal conclusions of the report," he added later, "I think it's entirely possible that that will be a good day for the president and his core supporters."
Along those lines, Nadler said that Democrats would continue their efforts.
"The job of Congress is much broader than the job of the special counsel," Nadler said. "The special counsel is looking and can only look for crimes. We have to protect the rule of law, we have to look for abuses of power, we have to look for obstructions of justice, we have to look for corruption in the exercise of power which may not be crimes."
But House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Doug Collins, R-Ga., speaking to "Fox News Sunday," argued that Democrats were unlikely to uncover anything Mueller could not.
"As we’ve seen in the first two months of this Congress, [Democrats] really don’t have a policy agenda," Collins said. "They have an agenda against the President. They have an agenda to try and win 2020. And so, what we’re seeing is, they think that they can go into the Judiciary Committee or any other committee and have a limited budget, limited subpoena power, limited staff and go up against an investigation that lasted 22 months, had unlimited power, unlimited subpoena power, had plenty of investigators -- and they think they can find something more than what they did, then I think they’re sadly mistaken."
A former senior law enforcement official echoed those remarks, telling Fox News that Democrats would lack key investigative powers that Mueller had, including the ability to convene grand juries -- and that Nadler's path amounted to trying to criminalize meetings with foreign actors that the special counsel apparently determined were simply not criminal.
With all the talk of the Democrats intensifying their House investigations," the former official said, it was important to note that "unlike Special Counsel Mueller, Congress and the [DOJ Inspector General] cannot convene grand juries and initiate prosecutions. If Mueller couldn't find collusion or conspiracy with every investigative tool, what do the Democrats expect to accomplish?"
Some conservatives , meanwhile, argued that Democrats should come under increased scrutiny for their contacts with foreign nationals. Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) hired the firm Fusion GPS, which employed Britsh ex-spy Christopher Steele to produce an anti-Trump dossier that the FBI used to justify the surveillance a top Trump aide and kickstart the Russia probe -- even as text messages exclusively obtained by Fox News this week revealed that the DOJ seemingly raised "repeated" concerns that Steele, whose anti-Trump views are now widely known, was politically biased.
The Trump aide, Carter Page, has not been charged with any wrongdoing, although the FBI initially alleged he had conspired with Russians.
On Sunday, Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan said Sunday that if the Mueller report is disclosed publicly, then all documents relating to it should also be published -- including the complete Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant application to monitor Page.
"We have asked for that information to be made public a long time ago,” Jordan said in a televised interview.
In a show of confidence, for his part, Trump waved and flashed two thumbs up to supporters as he returned to his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida on Saturday. The entertainer Kid Rock later uploaded a photograph of his golf outing with Trump earlier in the day.
On Sunday morning, Trump broke an unusual, nearly 40-hour-long Twitter silence, writing simply, "Good Morning, Have A Great Day!"
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A Grand Slam for Donald J Trump!
Nope
For many here on both sides the announcement today is like reliving the final hour of 2016 presidential election night coverage
Let’s celebrate 🎉 🎊 🍾!
Believe you celebrating an asswip fake president early
He got a walk at most. He's on first base and it's a long shot bet at best that his filthy foot gets to the plate.
You should really read it Vic. Because you own comments show you didn't and looked only at the headlines.
Case Closed...
Not quite.......
That does not sound like a grand slam to me. Just that there was no collusion with Russia.
However, I can understand the need for Republicans to twist the words of the letter from Barr to indicate a totally exoneration of Trump of all things. But, that is simply not the truth. It just means there was no collusion on his end. Nothing more.
But, have a great day anyway.
"just"
The whole point of the investigation dismissed with a "just."
It never changes.
I thought some would be happy that no American conspired with the Russians. Apparently not.
Wrong again. It is not that I am unhappy. I just don't like false assumptions being made when the words are quite clear as you and others do.
I am most happy that there was no collusion found. But, to put untrue words in the mouth of Barr when his letter clearly states that ......
.........is perpetrating a lie. Trump HAS NOT been exonerated. What happens going forward is yet to be seen.
Heeeeellllll no they aren't happy. For 2 years, all we heard from libs on here, loons on MSDNC and CNN was how they could not wait until the Mueller probe was finished so they can watch Trump and his entire family goose walked into prison.
Now they are moving goal posts, spinning everything.
If the loon Nadler tries to subpoena Barr or Mueller, I hope both of them tell him to fuck off. They need to.
He and all around him were completely exonerated on the collusion charges.
It's been 3 or 4 years now and the cons on here, loons on Fox and Lush Limpballs, how they still want to jail Clinton on the email server. I agree the Russia thing is now a dead horse and we should all leave it lie. The obstruction issue is still open and I'm waiting to see what the details are if we can ever get them unfiltered (without left or right political bias).
Does that mean they will be dropping the charges of being Russian agents on Flynn and Manafort?
You need to stop getting your news from the imaginary radio.
Freedom Warrior? What a stretch
Here is a direct quote from Mueller's report.
You do know that the part of the summary you quoted was dealing with the obstruction accusation and not the collusion. The summary said that there was no collusion.
You too!
There is no DIRECT collusion between trump and Russia, though some of his minions took the fall for him. But then, that's what they were for.
I'm not all that excited, getting a four page edited version of the report from a trump appointee, too much like a "self investigation".
If that dip Sessions would have done what he's supposed to, head the "investigation" the whole bunch could have partied and drank for a couple of weeks and announced trump so innocent he should be made a saint. No further investigations needed.
Which one of his "minions" were prosecuted for collusion or obstruction?
We await your response with baited breath.s/
And corroborated by Rod Rosenstein. Are you claiming that the AG is somehow lying about the results of the investigation?
Just??? Wasn't that supposed to be the thing we were concerned about? Isn't that what the investigation was for? Wasn't that the grounds for insisting that Trump was not the legitimate president? Wasn't that the basis for the threat to Democracy?
Tacos.....put a sock in it. Believe what you like. Collusion was only part of the investigation. OR....were you so loudly crowing that you missed that part?
If you're trying to troll me you should at least learn how first.
Here is a link to the letter authorizing the investigation.
He did all that and found Trump and his campaign hadn't done the things they were accused of. That's a tremendous finding given all the hype we have endured for two years. Why are you trying to minimize it?
Very true, but [Deleted] It is always so much easier to crucify and try someone in the court of public opinion than in a true and legal court of law.
From here on, it's going to get really silly. e.g. "Sure, he didn't collude with the Russians, but we never cared about that. He still eats pizza with a fork. Impeach!"
Lol...
Where did I do that? You obviously only read what you want to read, and make out of it what you want to believe. I have said several times in this thread that I was happy that they found no collusion. Where is minimizing that?
But, you and others are trying to minimize the full facts of the report and say that Trump was totally exonerated, and that is not true.
I never thought that Trump was personally involved in any collusion, he is much too smart for that. But, even if there was no collusion, the fact is Trump has not been exonerated. It does not get much clearer than Barr's own words. That you and others may choose not to believe it is your right, but, that does not make me wrong.
Now you're the one saying what you want to believe. I have explained here that it would be impossible to fully exonerate anyone because of the nature of the problem being investigated. However, this outcome is as close to that as could ever be expected, so we might as well react accordingly. Call it "beyond a reasonable doubt."
I have to love the way that you like to play your childish label games by applying labels to people that you know nothing about, just your own tremendously hate filled narrative about those who do not walk in lock step with your.
I am not a progressive, nor am I a Leftist. Nor do I have a tremendously hate filled narrative. Yet, you jump right in to apply your own label on me to promote me as you would like others to see me.
Says a great deal about you, not me.
Did I mention you by name in any way? No I did not. Was my comment directed at you specifically? No it was not. In point of fact, I was replying to a comment from Taco, not you. If you took offense to what I said, that is your problem not mine. All you did was prove my point. Want to talk about what says a great deal? Try looking in a mirror...
Actually, it does exonerate Trump as the only part of the report that does not exonerate Trump presents both sides of the argument for/against obstruction. By doing that, Mueller pretty much stated that there was not enough evidence that Trump committed obstruction of justice and then punted to his boss to make the decision.
What this means is that if the Attorney General was Adam Schiff, then there would be obstruction charges brought but then most likely Trump would be cleared of those charges due to lack of evidence and reasonable doubt in an actual trial. Barr gave one interpretation of the report regarding obstruction of justice while the Democrats will still have the ammo to claim that Trump obstructed justice despite that there is clear evidence that Trump did not. The Democrats will ignore that exculpatory evidence to continue their political games.
Believe what you want, you will anyway. I have no interest in trying to debate with someone who only wants to believe what they want to believe in spite of the facts of the report that are in full print.
The facts of the report are:
1) No Collusion between Trump and his associates with Russia to affect the election
2) There is evidence that Trump obstructed justice
3) There is evidence that Trump DID NOT obstruct justice
4) Mueller presented both sides of the obstruction debate
5) Barr felt that the evidence that Trump obstructed justice
a) did not meet the criteria for bringing such a charge
and
b) would be easily countered by the evidence that Trump DID NOT obstruct justice
Those are the facts.
How many times have we seen these types do their end zone victory dance when they're 4th and 15 on their own 40? We saw it with Bush's Glorious Crusade in Iraq and his equally Grand Economic Miracle. Of course, years later they claim they were always anti-Bush and anti-war and never supported his disastrous economic and fiscal policies. As always, we just stay patient and watch and, as always, we'll be rewarded when all the facts are in.
Actually, there are too many other far more important things in this world that I truly need to worry about than waste my time worrying about those who who choose to wipe the a$$ of a fool. They will still be wearing the stink on their hands long after the fool they worship has sold them out for forty pieces of silver like he has 37 other worshipers. Well......maybe 60 pieces of silver.
However, it is their own choice to make, not mine, so I don't worry about them.
Awww Beast....don't be so hard on yourself.
Hello?? The whole purpose of the Mueller investigation was to determine if Trump and/or his associates colluded with Russia, and Mueller found NOTHING. Deal with it.
The amazing thing is how many people still apparently expected Mueller to claim he colluded with the Russians.
Anyone who paid attention to the indictments knew there was no there, there.
In a sane world, the CNN's of the world would not recover from their cheerleading of imaginary allegations. But it's not.
An optimist, Jason Beale, claims:
"The reckoning will come in the form of an enlightened audience and electorate, whose questions and doubts about the motives and agenda of the media have been fused by this experience over the last two years into a fundamental and abiding distrust of their political reporting, their use of anonymous sources, and their empty promises of unbiased reporting.
It is no secret that the most accurate reporting on the Trump-Russia saga has come from either conservative-leaning publications or from non-traditional, non-legacy media. These news and opinion outlets have picked up where the traditional media has left off, and consumers, who simply want to be able to trust what they read, have found them to be a reliable option for their news. The traditional media would do well to pay attention to these people."
After watching people ignore facts and common sense to indulge their fantasies on this site, I have zero confidence any lessons will be learned by the MSM. My guess is they will double down on the insanity.
The only insane thing going on in this country is people believing Trump should be president.
Unfortunately for You, we hold elections and we respect the results.
All I did was post news stories, almost entirely from respected news sources.
You have posted numerous fake news to this site, often from the dregs of the internet. Let's talk about what you intend to do in the future.
We do not have to respect results that put a completely unethical and unfit buffoon into the office. Never will.
That's hilarious comment Vic. The right is constantly trying to change election results
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So, behavior like you show would be OK for others if Hillary Clinton had won?
I'm not allowed to directly respond to JR, but I have asked him many times to show proof of ANY of his thousands of anti Trump seeds to be true. He has never done that, and now we know for sure he never could have.
How so, Don? Be specific and show your proof.
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I bet your IQ goes up a point knowing you no longer have to read his posts.
My only behavior towards Trump is to show and demonstrate that he is the most unqualified president we have ever had. This is not even a close call, so of course I have no second thoughts about saying such things.
Will you go into the voting booth and pull the lever or punch the chad for someone who has lied to the public thousands of times? This is the heart of the question about Trump supporters. This is why I have talked about Trump supporters so much. We would not have a dishonest ignoramus buffoon as president if not for the people who support him. We wouldn't have had a two year investigation into the president because no other president would have asked the head of the FBI to lay off investigating the president's associates.
The reason that Trump supporters are the key is EXACTLY because we know Trump is not fit for the office. He's a pathological liar. When a pathological liar who is also a bigot , a crook, and an obvious ignoramus becomes president, we have to look at the people who put such a person there.
Interestingly, Trump is only President because the DNC and others “colluded” to get Hillary the nomination.
Just about anyone else likely would have beat him. Even “socialist” Bernie. But ..... too late now sad sacks.
Deleted , Trump is a straight-up, bona fide, in-your-face, idiot. That you still need proof of this, [deleted]
who beat the establishment, the media, and the globalists,
and lets not forget....
the entire so-called "intelligent left" with the help of their neo-con friends could not bring him down either.
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3. If he is such an idiot, what does that tell you about Hillary and her supporters, all of whom he handily beat in 2016?
4. Nobody really gives a shit what you think.
[Don't address John by way of another NTers comments, please.]
Anyone who goes into the voting booth in 2020 and votes for Trump to be reelected is not a patriotic American. He is the most unfit for office president we have ever had.
This conclusion of the Russia thing may be good for the opposition to Trump. Now they will be forced to confront all his other major malfunctions.
If Bugsy is not allowed to address me, he is not allowed to say my name or reference me either. I guess he doesnt know the procedure.
Thanks to Putie.
Questioning others people’s patriotism is a fools errand. Especially when you know next to nothing about them.
In this case Its pure, unadulterated partisan hatred towards those not of like mind. Sad!
Good God...
Thanks to reality .....
Yeah, so? Everyone knew who and what Trump was before the election. It's not like Trump pretended to be something he isn't.
That was the other candidate. You know, the one that lost.
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2. You gave John an 'assignment'? I bet he gave you an 'assignment' right back. [Deleted]
3. Hillary lost. I stopped giving a shit ages ago. It's time you let it go, as well.
4. You replied with a 4-point post to someone about whose thoughts you don't give a shit? [Deleted]
Even a straight-up, bona fide, in-your-face idiot can accomplish the inexplicable. Look at me...I won the City, District, and Regional Science Fair when I was 12, and I'm a straight-up, bona fide, in-your-face idiot. Ours is not to question why.
I hope not. I would hate to think that so many Americans knew before the election that he is a pathological liar, a bigot, a crook, and a total ignoramus and voted for him anyway. There can't be that many stupid people in America, can there?
I dunno. The other candidate pretended to be something they aren't and supposedly won the popular vote.
Or was that a rhetorical question?
Sorry that not everybody shares your particular political views like you seem to think they should. If that is how you classify decency, I'm glad I do not share your views....
Actually we on the Christian and or libertarian right have a partial gag rule as to what we can put here compared to the few limits at all on secular and progressive members so accusing BF of putting up so called dregs of the internet in the future is simply ridiculous.
I'll bet you won't be singin' that tune after the 2020 results.
All true. Well said.
Jeebus, even in what you think is a big WIN you still have to go back to still keep excuses for why Scumbag won except that he wasn't the people's choice. I think the people will be a bit more careful about not letting that repeat in 2020.
Quite the sweeping 🧹 generalizations there.
When you stop pretending your not in the tank for Scumbag and always have been.
Sure, just as soon as you boys stop accusing Clinton of be being Satan.
Good God...
Almighty, Great Balls of Fire !
Still stuck on that foaming, rabid notion that all things trumpy are covfefe ?
Denial is now a major character trait for many on the far left. Of course, it always has been when convenient ....... sad!
Maybe some but that's most cons all the time.
Yep, but still lost the election....
Even as late as this morning, your Scumbag was still tweeting some shit that this report was akin to treason. We love how you and he now pretend you always knew he'd be "totally vindicated" except of course there's still the nasty little obstruction of justice thing that hasn't gone away, has it.
One thing that I am very happy about in this world. My political ideology does not require me to defend Donald Trump, the most unqualified person to ever seek, let alone achieve , the presidency of the United States. I am glad I don't have to endure that shame.
One of the truly odd but quite predictable results of the Mueller report is that Trumpsters will now claim that Trump is a great man, a hero, etc. This is of course in the face of all known fact. Trump is a pathological liar, bigot, crook, and maybe most distressingly, an obvious ignoramus. We could pick the name of any member of Newstalkers out of a hat and it is likely that person would be more qualified to be president of the United States than Trump is.
In a way this result is clarifying. The decent part of this country can now concentrate on emphasizing Trump's mountain of dysfunctions, lies, bigotries and idiocies without relying on the Russian investigation to show anything.
It does apparently require you to falsely accuse the President of being a traitor.
predictable results of the Mueller report is that Trumpsters will now claim that Trump is a great man, a hero, etc
My opinion of Trump hasn't changed. He's a buffoonish prick.
But being an asshole doesn't make you a traitor, and it's sad to see how low the media and many liberals will stoop to attack someone out of personal animosity.
He is a traitor to the principles of this country.
I don't even care about the Russian investigation as a be all end all of ruining Trump. It was just the simplest way to remove him, IF it panned out. It didnt pan out, Mueller did not establish criminal activity by Trump regards collusion with Russians.
Ok, we move on. MUCH of the right wing base of this country will see this conclusion of the Mueller investigation as evidence that Trump is a great man. That is because much of the right wing base is , almost hopelessly at this point, stupid.
If Russia did not exist Trump would still be utterly unfit to be president of the United States. I have pointed out many of the reasons long before the Russian investigation began or was even thought of.
Are you going to go into the voting booth and vote to re-elect someone who has lied thousands of times to the American people? Who is a buffoon on a daily basis? Who is an obvious ignoramus? Who is a known fraudster and crook?
It is NOT a close call as to whether or not Trump is fit to be president. You think discrediting "liberals" is more important than the lack of qualities of the president*.
Only to bat-shit crazy partisan moon beamers on the extreme left
I'm not sure why, but I'm incredibly giddy that you made this comment.
But being an asshole doesn't make you a traitor
Perhaps not, but I'd be willing to bet that Trump's net-worth has dropped by a healthy portion. After all, keeping 17 associates and advisors supplied with $$$ while they are either under indictment, awaiting sentencing, or already in prison (at least until the end of 2020 when he will pardon them for their...sacrifice), must be quite a drain on the old checkbook.
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No more so than Republicans and their own anti-American ideology. If the Republicans really had any respect for America they would not have supported Trump. Nor still do when he has proven to be totally unfit for the Oval office.
Do tell how is he unfit for office?
I'm really curious of what a I'm not a Progressive or a leftist thinks why President Trump is unfit for office?
It's my opinion. And if I thought for one milli-second that you were truly interested I might tell you. But, as your comment is meant as nothing more than snark. you are not worth wasting my time.
Just for starters:
No, supporters like me are going to demand that this attempt at an illegal take-down is investigated. The other thing that Trump supporters like me are going to do is to highlight the dishonest, evil, lying, hate-filled individuals who tried to remove this President!
Nonsense. The investigation of Trump was more than well justified.
Donald Trump repeatedly LIED about no one in his campaign ever having contact with Russians. LIED. Of course that will lead to an investigation.
But then , evidently to you, Trump being a pathological liar is some sort of bizarre badge of honor or achievement.
Without a crime?
Donald Trump repeatedly LIED about no one in his campaign ever having contact with Russians. LIED. Of course that will lead to an investigation.
The liars were in the media.
But then , evidently to you, Trump being a pathological liar is some sort of bizarre badge of honor or achievement.
The biggest lie, John, was that Trump conspired with the Russians.
Total nonsense again. Trump said that none of his people had met with Russians. He said it many times. It was a lie.
You people don't have standing.
Only in a make believe land of the lost Vic
That sez it all .......
And we still have the senate which can investigate Obama and Clinton and those who worked on their behalf as much as the House can investigate Trump.
The article even puts a number on it - over 230 times Trump tols us that he did not collude with the Russians. That was the truth every time. You rather believe liars like Clapper and Brennan.
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Not to mention the most vile scumbag of a "president" we've ever had and there's some pretty touch competition for that spot.
Where are the apologies from Brennan, Clapper, @ CNN , @ MSNBC , @ nytimes & @ washingtonpost etc? (Let’s keep the list going.)
Where's the apologies from the investigating committees (9) on Benghazi?
How much did they cost? Oh yeah, nobody knows, they signed a "non-disclosure" agreement starting at the first one, because they knew they had nothing, but to keep the fire under their "base" they had to keep them going.
It works great, look at some of our ultra-cons, they just can't get enough Clinton. I don't know why, she loves money and power and big businesses just like they do.
Americans died at Benghazi. There was inadequate security and the Obama team lied about the reason for the atrocity. You didn't want any questions asked?
That comment is nothing but a debased lie, I'm amazed you would still think you can get a way with propagating lies.
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Supper awaits. Back later
Here comes the whataboutism ...... yeah but, yeah but, yeah but, etc, etc .....
lather, rinse and repeat as needed .......
I did take a look at Dailykos. Sure enough, they are perpetuating the big lie of collusion.
It's like an alternate, fact free universe where Mueller is now either a Trump stooge or about to speak out with proof that Trump colluded because Barr lied about his conclusions. It's bizarro world.
This is the sort of fake news that's keeping the crazies hope's up:
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/much-worse-mueller-report-barr-summary/16960/
It's hard to ask for a clearer outcome or a better one from Trump's perspective. And frankly, this is the best result for the country. We should all be very glad that such a thorough investigation failed to show that Trump or any of his associates colluded with Russia to mess with our election in any way.
The part I put in bold is what I am concerned with. A man's career and personal life were ruined based off a BS fake political dossier, and the investigation it sparked around him resulting in wire taps and leading to a witch hunt that resulted in indictments of Trump campaign and administration officials that had nothing to do with Russian collusion. Page needs to be fully exonerated and those that brought false claims against him be exposed, charge criminally, and repay him monetarily.
Further, the information used to obtain the FISA warrants need to be investigated; and charges brought against those individuals. This includes all Obama officials that "outed" anyone associated with Trump in an effort to influence the election.
This is a black mark on our government and the rule of law. I don't give a damn if the left thinks Trump is the devil personified. I didn't vote for Trump (or Hillary) and can't stand the ass. I highly doubt I will vote for him in his re-election bid (unless the left nominates an extreme socialist- in which case I will take the lesser of two evils.) Unless the Dems would like their next president (and anyone associated with them) to come under the same politically motivated unsubstantiated open ended investigations.
SIC'EM!!!!!
Nobody talks or dares ask any questions of the new god, trump.
By the way, since you know "god" so well, what happened to all them loose immigrant kids he "lost?"
Damn straight. If you slander an innocent man with being a Russian spy and launch an investigation not just into him; but into everyone even remotely involved with him. Turning him into a pariah affecting both his personal life and business. Carter Page went through what no one should ever have to. They wrecked his life based on a fully political BS PR hit job paid for by the Clinton campaign. Not one damn charge has been brought against him. As soon as they had the special council in place he was dropped like a bad habit and forgotten; unfortunately for him the damage was already done. Of course you and the left are just fine with this. The end, or lack thereof in this case, justifies the means- even if it was illegal.
If the FISA warrants were illegal then all information gathered against everyone from them was illegally gained; and inadmissible in court. All criminals have rights; even those without a D behind their names.
Sorry, I am not registered to either party and do not worship politicians as gods (For Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama; and for Republicans Reagan). Also, Trump is questioned daily by the left, their rabid media talking heads, and the career Establishment government officials. What the left fails to realize, and it could very well bite them in the ass again, is that if they nominate someone that is worse than Trump he will win again. But keep the hate up. You are pushing independent voters like myself, who didn't vote for Trump last time, closer to vote for him the second time around.
Why don't you ask Obama, since Trump was following the same damn law that prohibited Obama from detaining children with parents at the border.
But what do you care? According to the left there is no crisis at the border, "What difference at this point does it make?" To quote Hillary.
Ha...anyone who believed Trump could be a Russian asset sure fell for the BS fed them. Only idiots would believe the nonsense. You have been played dummies.
But, not near as bad as Trumps chumps who are now sitting it out in prison hoping their orange God will pardon them now.
the good news is the people on the left now facing prison will not be getting any pardons.
ridiculous comment
And who would that be?
The ship of fools in the Democrat party and media should be ashamed of themselves on this and apologize for being so wrong. But they won’t, since they have no shame.
Sad!
they say hindsight is 20/20
and now we get to watch two yrs of investigations destroy the left just in time for 2020
everyone will know... those people (democrats) cannot be trusted.
If there was no "Collusion" crimes, what did Trump supposedly "Obstruct" ?
The "Liberals" are now going to move the goal posts to the next stadium and try there ….since this blew/blue their "Rhetoric" of the last two years, "out of the water" (The real " Blue Wave
" just happened 
)!
The comrades are just practicing an age old Lenin tactic.
"A lie told often enough becomes the truth"
Only problem this time is most Americans aren't stupid enough to fall for it. The only ones that are looners on the far fringe left.
No loss there though. They've always have been and always will be, bat-shit crazy.
A Famous Joseph Stalin Quote:
“Everybody has a right to be stupid, but some people abuse the privilege.”
One more from Lenin:
"Useful Idiots"
More than a few of those here relentlessly bagging on everything Trump ....
Adam Schiff-ty comes to mind. Apparently Mueller didn't find Schiffty's irrefutable evidence much good !
Don't insinuate people are communist w/o looking at that piece of trash you worship. in '71 communists damn near killed me so shove your comment [deleted]
you have right wingers down pat, thanks
I worship no man.
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OK I am going to tell everyone on this thread, what I told Bob last week.
Do not call directly or indirectly members of this site Communists. The comments will be removed. They serve no purpose but to antagonize.
While I must admit the initial findings by Mr. Barr are not what I had expected after almost two years of poking, prodding and non-stop news reporting, for the time being they must be accepted.
Although they most likely will not, perhaps our elected officials can get back to the business of running the Country. For those who do not agree with the conclusions, you have 2020 to enact change should you care to cast a vote.
Hello Luther … I can honestly say I am not surprised at the outcome regarding collusion, I always felt that was a bridge too far … but obstruction was questionable, I was arrested for obstructing when I refused to answer questions at the scene of an accident - my bell was rung .. my head was split open blood was saturating my face and hair, answering questions was not computing... SOOOO .. obstruction can be subject to interpretation by law enforcement - firing Comey combined with the interview with Lester Holt, could obstruction make
Simply out of curiousity .. why only for the time being are the results to be accepted? Was not the Mueller report the standard for what all other reports should be?
Biden / Buttigieg 2020
Firing Comey did not stop or impede any investigations. So what exactly was obstructed? I would like to know. No one has been able to answer.
The same way no one ever said exactly where the collusion was?
mmmm....deja vu?
Hey Sunshine .. hope you are well
Obstruction of Justice, is a rather subjective / interpretive charge .. that is why Mueller kicked the can down the road, he knew he could not in good conscience make the claim .. however, that did not guarantee that others will not still see obstruction - I believe Congress can still say there was obstruction or an attempted to obstruct ...
Come to find out .. there are quite a few that think Barr is lieing about what Mueller said .. soooooo this is not over, we have Mueller report deniers on the loose...
Wow was I naïve to think the Mueller report conclusion would end anything!
No its not.
I don't believe what Barr says, and will wait for the release. If it doesn't get released in full, at least to congress, I REALLY won't believe Barr's little summary. Thank god for state courts that can't be controlled. Trump is a lying con who commits fraud and launders money. Until we see what the real report says, this is just getting a jump on the narrative Trump wants, and Barr has always shown he would protect that. Glad congress and NY have the latitude to actually move forward now that Mueller is done.
Right. Bob Mueller is letting Barr lie about the contents of the Report.
Keep believing that's what happening.
You do know that the part of the summary you quoted was dealing with the obstruction accusation and not the collusion. The summary said that there was no collusion.
If we're all going to be honest here, the Mueller findings "exonerate" Trump in the same way the Whitewater investigation "exonerated" Clinton.
All we can really say is "we've found something of which the bastard isn't guilty."
Thanks to everyone who was able to hold it down to a roar.