Did Jeffery Epstein Kill Himself Because He Had Remorse For His Evil Deeds Or Because He Didnt Want To Live Without Wealth And Privilege

  
By:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  155 comments

Did Jeffery Epstein Kill Himself Because He Had Remorse For His Evil Deeds Or Because He Didnt Want To Live Without Wealth And Privilege
Why? Was he ashamed of himself beyond bearing?  Or was he overcome with despair at the prospect of spending the rest of his life without wealth and power? 

Accused child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein hung himself in his jail cell overnight. 

Why? Was he ashamed of himself beyond bearing?  Or was he overcome with despair at the prospect of spending the rest of his life without wealth and power? 

Epstein's is a story of the power of money.  He became rich through "financialization" the technical term for moving money around and getting paid for being deceptive and clever as opposed to someone who gets rich by providing a good to the world. Then he lived "the good life" that can come with excess wealth. Excess habits. Exploiting others, sexually as we have heard, but most likely emotionally, psychologically, and materially, also.

Now, with his empire in ruins and himself in prison, he has decided to end his existence rather than ....... what?  Face the music? or face life as a regular person? 

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

I think his feeling sorry for himself overwhelmed his remorse for his bad deeds. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

He likely had a lot of democrat politicians whose secrets he took to the grave with him.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Heartland American @1.1    2 weeks ago

So he killed himself to protect Democratic politicians? lol. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1.2  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Nope. But as unintended consequences go, they’re dancing ip a storm.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Ya might wanna check the "Clinton" hit list, because, obviously suicide "watches" don't work for high profile sex offenders.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

We hear from the conspiracy wing of Newstalkers. How enlightening!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

A Vince Foster moment, perhaps???

This disgusting perv was on strict suicide watch. It's foolish to think he didn't have a helping hand or two in his demise.

The big question is....how much did he reveal before he was disposed of?

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1.6  Sunshine  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    2 weeks ago
We hear from the conspiracy wing of Newstalkers. How enlightening!

Suicide hasn't been confirmed yet, but if it is, how does a prisoner on strict suicide watch commit suicide?  Can you answer that or just make smartass comments?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

Didn't he have some bruises on his neck a couple weeks ago, as if someone tried to strangle him. Can't believe he would have been in general pop or even sharing a cell with anyone.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.8  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

On a serious note John - how do you explain the discrepancies in his "attempted" suicide last week with "bruises" on his arms and neck, while on a Suicide Watch, and his sudden demise yesterday, WHILE ON A SUICIDE WATCH?

Here is how a suicide watch works in "most" prisons:

The person is put in an observation room and kept away from dangerous objects. Suicide watch is mostly designed to prevent hanging, which is far and away the most common suicide method in prisons and hospitals. An observation room might have little more than a mattress on the floor. Any stray bits of fabric could be used as a noose: Some states make sure the inmate sleeps with an extra-thick blanket that can’t be tied or torn into strips. In extreme cases, a prisoner may be undressed and given a paper gown.

Even if a suicidal prisoner does manage to tie something around his neck, he won’t be able to hang himself unless he has somewhere to tie the other end. Rooms are designed without any protrusions from the ceiling, walls, or furniture. Window cages, sprinkler heads, and bunk handles all pose problems. Even bars set low to the ground could be dangerous—an inmate might get on his knees and strangle himself by thrusting his weight forward all at once.

Many suicide-watch rooms have 24-hour video surveillance, but prison staff must also perform routine, in-person checks. Depending on the level of risk—as determined by prison psychiatrists—nurses or corrections officers might drop by once per half-hour or 15 minutes on average. (Staffers mix up the schedule so the prisoner doesn’t know when they’re coming.) At each visit, the prison employee should verify that the inmate is alive and breathing and then mark their observations on a timesheet. Some institutions—including the Federal Bureau of Prisons—have made fellow inmates responsible for these checks. One recent study found that “inmate observers” were more effective than authority figures at calming down a prisoner on suicide watch. (Using inmate observers also saves the prison a lot of money.)

Intermittent checks may not give staffers enough time to stop a suicide attempt, since it takes only four or five minutes to hang yourself. In some states, inmates deemed to be at “acute risk” are given continuous supervision—someone is watching them every minute of every day. This designation is typically reserved for those who seem both inclined to commit suicide and temporarily unable to control their actions. In a hospital setting, the most extreme situations may call for a “sitter” who will remain within arm’s reach of the patient for the duration of the watch.

If the suicide-watch system fails, a prison may be liable for civil damages. The institution must have a reasonable method for assessing risk and preventing self-injury. For example, relevant members of the prison staff should have sufficient training to deal with a suicide attempt. They should also make a concerted effort to keep dangerous objects out of the hands of the inmates.

So, now the question(s) should rally 'round - how much money was spent on the suicide?  who else's hands were involved?  what has the autopsy determined or will there even be one?  since he was considered a "high risk", "In some states, inmates deemed to be at “acute risk” are given continuous supervision—someone is watching them every minute of every day.", and since this was in the Manhattan Correctional Facility, a place well known for staging high profile cases, how could this have slipped through the cracks??

If the "prison" staff actually conducted routine observation, i.e. 5 to 15 minute patrols/monitoring w/w/o monitoring apparatus, then it pretty well shows that Epstein had assistance in his suicide.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.9  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
Suicide hasn't been confirmed yet, but if it is, how does a prisoner on strict suicide watch commit suicide?  Can you answer that or just make smartass comments?

Please show us proof he was on strict suicide watch yesterday. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
1.1.10  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

That's what ABC is reporting. 

"He had been on suicide watch since the July 23 incident."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-epstein-accused-sex-trafficker-dies-suicide-officials/story?id=64881684

 
 
 
 
squiggy
1.1.12  squiggy  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

That’s her razor sharp bullshit detector.

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1.13  lady in black  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

Despite warning signs, why wasn't Jeffrey Epstein on suicide watch when he died?

Epstein, 66, was removed from suicide watch on July 29, just six days after the self-inflicted bruising on his neck was spotted, according to the New York Times. It meant that he was returned to the special housing unit at the jail, which is separated from the rest of the facility and has extra security

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-watch-when-he-died-how-safeguards-arent-foolproof/1975631001/

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.14  Karri  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
how does a prisoner on strict suicide watch commit suicide?

Was he on a strict suicide watch?  What are the protocols at the jail for this?  If it was just q 5-15 minute checks, it would be very easy.  One can complete suicide in a very short time and these frequent checks are simply insufficient.

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.15  Karri  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.7    2 weeks ago
Didn't he have some bruises on his neck a couple weeks ago,

This could have been another suicide attempt that didn't complete.  At that point, he should have been sent to a mental health unit on the highest suicide protocol (one-to-one, no more than arm's distance, at all times)

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.16  Karri  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.8    2 weeks ago
Many suicide-watch rooms have 24-hour video surveillance, but prison staff must also perform routine, in-person checks.

This is insufficient.  (See my previous posts.)  It is also ignoring many possible means of suicide.

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.17  Karri  replied to  lady in black @1.1.13    2 weeks ago
removed from suicide watch on July 29

Thank you for this information.  Suicides in jails are much more common than most people realize.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.18  1stwarrior  replied to  Karri @1.1.16    2 weeks ago

Take it up with the author - Lanny Berman of the American Association of Suicidology.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/12/how-does-a-suicide-watch-work.html

 
 
 
Karri
1.1.19  Karri  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.18    2 weeks ago

That may be how they do it in jails.  That would account for the high number of jail suicides, IMO.

Furthermore, Daniel Engber has the byline on this article.  He is not a mental health professional.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.20  Don Overton  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Trump had him killed so he couldn't rat on him

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.21  Don Overton  replied to  Heartland American @1.1    2 weeks ago

Just more ding a ling from the  right

 
 
 
livefreeordie
1.1.22  livefreeordie  replied to  Don Overton @1.1.20    2 weeks ago

Far more likely to be the Clintons

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

It looks like another case of 'Arkanside!

The slimy tentacles of the Clintons reach far, wide, and deep

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @1.2    2 weeks ago

We hear from the conspiracy wing of Newstalkers. How enlightening!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

Are you suggesting that Trump had NOTHING to do with it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

Nothing to do with what? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

Epstein's death of course. Isn't that the topic?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.4    2 weeks ago

Since he committed suicide I assume Trump was not involved. Why do you ask, do you know otherwise? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.5    2 weeks ago

So you still believe it was suicide?

Can you confirm it was?

Right now it's all rumor.

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.7  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

Didn’t you make the same type of comment in the smollett case?

 
 
 
Karri
1.2.8  Karri  replied to  WallyW @1.2    2 weeks ago
another case of 'Arkanside!

As someone who has investigated multiple jail suicides, I disagree.

Look, this guy was facing the real probability of spending the rest of his life in jail.  I am sure he doesn't believe he did anything wrong, but the thought of being in a prison must have totally destroyed him.  So, he decided to make that time much shorter.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.2.9  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @1.2    2 weeks ago

[Discuss the Topic not members of this forum.]

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
1.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

An investigation may reveal whether he committed suicide or was MURDERED to protect TRUMP.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.3    2 weeks ago

As if no one besides Trump ever traveled on the Lolita Express. A lot of politicians (Including the Clintons), lawyers, and people in power on Wall Street are breathing a sigh of relief that he is dead.

Why was he taken off of suicide watch? That is the question that needs to be answered first and foremost. Someone made a very bad decision- whether they were influenced or not to do so remains to be seen.

If he was that intent on committing suicide- no one else needed to be involved. The simple act of getting him off suicide watch would have been more than enough.

 
 
 
Kavika
2  Kavika     2 weeks ago

Either way it's not a great loss to humanity.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Kavika @2    2 weeks ago

I got dibs on the island.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  SteevieGee @2.1    2 weeks ago
I got dibs on the island.

You can keep it going for all them Democrat perverts...

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.2  loki12  replied to  KDMichigan @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

They’re going to need a bigger island, for either party.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  SteevieGee @2.1    2 weeks ago

You can have it.  But keep in mind the only way to thoroughly clean it would be a firestorm that would make Little Boy look like a fire cracker.

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.4  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

Plain old Bleach will work just fine. For any justice to really be done all of Epstein's assets must go to his victims...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
2.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

I don't know if the victims would want anything from it aside from a cut of the money (and I don't think they would feel it to be enough).  That kind of abuse can never be erased.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  loki12 @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
for either party.

No shit. 

I heard they only let Hillary on there when she is smoking a cigar....

256

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
You can keep it going for all them Democrat perverts...

Oh absolutely, check out this list, and BTW? This is only half of the list. 

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.
Republican serial killer Ted Bundy was hired by the Republican Party
Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger
Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women’s clothing
Republican Congressman Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught searching for sex on a gay telephone service
Republican Mayor Jim West Republican voter Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself
Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart preached fidelity, but cheated on his wife with a prostitute
Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton’s extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren,
has told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girl.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican Mayor John Gosek, 58, of 275 West 7th Street, Oswego, was arrested for the federal offense of “using a facility in inte-state commerce (a telephone) to knowingly attempt to persuade, induce, entice, and coerce an individual under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual activity for which he could be charged with criminal offenses, that is, rape in the third degree and criminal sexual act in the third degree” in violation of the New York State Penal Code.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Of course it’s no contest! How could he even get a fair fight against those activist judges!
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. – That’s the culture of life we all know and love!
Defense contractor, Mitchell Wade, admitted that he paid California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (republican) more than $1 million in bribes in exchange for millions more in government contracts.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his 9 yr old daughter.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano serving a 37-year sentence for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge sentenced to 3 years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. I’m sure he had a good explanation.
Republican racist pedophile and esteemed US Senator Strom Thurmond fathered a chiled with a 15-year old black girl.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to sexual relations with a juvenile. Praise George!
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having inappropriate relations with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens found guilty of sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on 6counts of child sex crimes.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Look, he didn’t actually do anything. He only TRIED! You can’t fault a republican for trying!
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Prai$e the lord!
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28. I love this country!
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Now I’m sure he can give us a good explanation for this.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Obviously a liberal conspiracy!
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. He was obviously trying to help this woman! Do you liberals no shame!Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Look! It was his own son. Geez you liberals are SICK!
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. He was trying to explain to her what NOT to do when in a difficult situation!
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. She could have turned away.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Liberal jury of course.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Now how could anyone rape their daughter 6 times! Can you say Liberal psycologist!
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Obviously set up by a liberal computer hacker. These hackers no NO SHAME!
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). You see, actually he happened to be changing out of his bathing suit when these kids walked by.
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. He pleaded guilty only to keep his family out of the liberal media’s spotlight.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. She was eighTEEN. That’s still a teenager!
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. He only had their interests in mind. Why don’t you liberals see that!
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. No comment.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Philanthrapy at it’s finest!
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. That boy was a liberal trying to corrupt his mind. He did the right thing.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. He did the honorable thing and did his time.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Lies. Lies! All liberal lies!
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Obviously set up by that liberal media!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
2.1.8  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  SteevieGee @2.1    2 weeks ago

Get in line - over 70 victims are clamoring for a piece of the BILLIONAIRE PIMP'S estate.

The Live of the Filthy Rich is often twisted and filthy! Trump, Koch Roach Brothers, Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, Cosby, Movie Moguls, etc.

Many of America's top politicians, judges, attorneys, and Uber Rich partook of the Sex Orgies on his island, according to the locals. 

Trump's peers!

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

https://stuffthatspins.com/2016/04/28/who-has-more-sex-offenders-republicans-or-democrats/

The other half the list being Democrats right?

Democrat Pedophiles and Sex Offenders Outnumber Repubs, many Dems re-elected.

REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.):
Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, w More..as reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn’t go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah):
Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.):
Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he “made bad judgments involving my private life.” In spite of a Democratic primary opponent’s attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion – and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him — he resigned his seat.

REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.):
During his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.):
Bauman, a leading “pro-family” conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.):
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages — Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane’s conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds’s more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.

SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.):
Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams’s longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams’s house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a “letter of reproval” directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy “Duke” Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.):
Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he “never intended to offend” her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.):
In response to a story in the Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he “reflected discredit upon the House” by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie’s parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank’s district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii):
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye’s hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote – the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn’t go public with their claims, the local press didn’t pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn’t participate in an inquiry.

REP MEL REYNOLDS (D-Ill.):
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.

Let’s not forget:
John Wayne Gacy, rapist, murderer, democrat fund raiser
Michael Skakel, Kennedy, murderer
William Kennedy Smith, Kennedy, rapist
Brian Doyle, dem activist child molester
Neil Goldschmidt, Oregon governor, confessed child molester
Rep. Mel Reynolds, D-IL child rapist pardoned by clinton
The Kennedy Family Murder, Rapes
The Clinton Rapes
David Lettermans pedophile remarks about a 13 year old girl

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.9    2 weeks ago

No, the other half oh the list is Republicans. But you really showed me with what..20? Lol

 
 
 
 
Don Overton
2.1.12  Don Overton  replied to  KDMichigan @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

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WallyW
2.1.13  WallyW  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

Including Bubba Clinton and all his democrat buddies

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

I was just reading through his wikipedia page. He was similar to Gordon Gekko in some ways, the villain of the movie Wall St. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

Shady deals, manipulation, tax schemes, he was a crook in the Donald Trump vein. He does not want to live without being a master of the universe. That is why he killed himself, not a guilty conscience. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

He was a 24/7 suicide watch. A more likely explanation for his death is a hit job.

https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/08/10/the-list-of-clinton-associates-whove-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    2 weeks ago

You are posting discredited conspiracy theories. 

Absurd Assumptions

The widely-circulated "Clinton Body Count" text insinuates that several dozen "friends" of the Clintons, some of whom conceivably possessed incriminating information about the former First Couple, died under "mysterious" circumstances—i.e., were secretly done away with.

In more ways than one, it's reminiscent of a similarly paranoid conspiracy theory floated during the Bush-hating 2000s, namely the notion that forces within the   Bush administration   secretly orchestrated the 9/11 terror attacks.

Both theories rest on absurd assumptions:

  1. That a U.S. president could secretly order the murders of dozens (or, in Bush's case on 9/11, thousands) of American citizens without being found out, ratted on, prosecuted, impeached, or even so much as accused of such crimes by members of Congress, including staunch political opponents.
  2. That a U.S. president could flawlessly carry out such crimes while demonstrating complete and utter fallibility (if not gross ineptitude) in the face of other, more mundane challenges (e.g., Clinton's inability to squelch accusations of sexual improprieties and avoid impeachment).

Why is it, we must also ask, that special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, who spent years and millions of taxpayer dollars attempting to dig up dirt of   any   kind on the Clintons, never handed down a single indictment pertaining to these alleged murders?

The answer is plain—because the accusations have no merit.

https://www.liveabout.com/the-clinton-body-count-4056792

One of the reasons I belittle "conservatives" on internet forums is because some of them so incessantly promote idiotic conspiracies like the one that the Clintons have had dozens of people murdered. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

You can keep making excuses for them, but the Clintons were and are vindictive and evil people.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

The lowlife scumbag was on 24x7 suicide watch which in the facility he was being held in means just that literally.  

24x7 uninterrupted unimpeded visual observation.

All potential suicide 'aids' were removed.  And per what's being reported, even physical 'attachments' to try hanging and such are weight limited to stop that.

It's also being investigated exactly what happened.  

As the holding cell has 24x7 video recording, absolutely no privacy, it will be very interesting to see exactly what happened.   If there happens to be a "technical error" of a few minutes which interrupts that recording (it takes about 180 to 240 seconds to die by hanging, and that is a LONG TIME), I will be less inclined to accept any 'suicide' story.

 
 
 
TᵢG
3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

Same thoughts crossed my mind.   He tried suicide before so clearly he would have been on suicide watch.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
Same thoughts crossed my mind.   He tried suicide before so clearly he would have been on suicide watch.

Manhattan Correctional suicide watch is akin to dancing naked in Times Square and thinking no one will see.  Essentially impossible.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.6  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
He tried suicide before so clearly he would have been on suicide watch.

He was placed on suicide watch on July 23.  After several days of close supervision and psychiatric analysis, he was removed from suicide watch on July 29.

 
 
 
TᵢG
3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.6    2 weeks ago

I cannot imagine me (if I were in charge) authorizing the removal of suicide watch in this case.

Per the link you offered:

The authorities did not immediately explain why he was taken off suicide watch. The F.B.I. said it was investigating, and Attorney General William P. Barr said in a statement that a special inquiry would be opened into what happened. “I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody,” Mr. Barr said. “Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered.”

Indeed General Barr.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.8  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

Something stinks about this. I suspect the dump the previous day about named prominent Democrats may have played a role in the decision to ignore protocol.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
3.1.9  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Greg Jones, and, Trump was "anointed by God" to serve as POTUS with the help of Putin.

The one person who had the most to lose if Epstein testified in his own defense is TRUMP, his best friend, supporter and a frequent guest at Epstein's Penthouse Parties with underage girls.

As you may recall, Trump and Epstein are still defendants in the lawsuit against both of them.

These suits were withdrawn three times due to "Death Threats".256

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
3.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

That is the new business model, "Profit by any means", that has sweep the business culture for decades.

The model pushes the concept, that Trump subscribes to, the only thing that matters is the "Bottom Line".

People, employees, the environment, the Rule of Law are simply impediments to be overcome by smart people in a tear to get "filthy rich" by any means possible.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.2.1  MUVA  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @3.2    2 weeks ago

There is only one model in a successful business make money or close your doors. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  MUVA @3.2.1    2 weeks ago

You forgot the other popular model in practice these days.

Scam a tax payer funded Government bail out

 
 
 
Kathleen
4  Kathleen    2 weeks ago

I think he did it because of his ego and that he was use to the riches and whatever he wanted. The humiliation and what now is  known all over the world about him.

What a coward, he had no trouble going after girls, now that he was caught... he can’t take it.

Good riddance loser!

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
4.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Kathleen @4    2 weeks ago

Hello B .. so good to see you...

I have been wandering around reading, think I now must question the 'suicide' scenario - going to be interesting to see how things unfold... I am thinking it is going to become a conspiracy!

Take care of you...

 
 
 
Kathleen
4.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Colour Me Free @4.1    2 weeks ago

Good to see you too! You have been missed. 

Yes,  how can this happen when he was being watched. Hmmmm I think more will come out later...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

How does someone on suicide watch commit suicide?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
5.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

Good question...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

Very carefully and with a bit of ingenuity I would think.

 
 
 
zuksam
5.3  zuksam  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

It's easy if you have dirt on powerful people, you just start talking and they'll take care of the rest. You could call it assisted suicide.

 
 
 
Karri
5.4  Karri  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago
How does someone on suicide watch commit suicide?

It depends on what type of suicide watch s/he is on.  It can be a very quick action; even the guard going to the bathroom would be enough time.

Besides, he had been taken off suicide watch.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

He was taken off of suicide watch prior to his death.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.5.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.5    2 weeks ago
He was taken off of suicide watch prior to his death. 

Old news.  

INITIAL reports indicated he was on suicide watch which made it prime for 'conspiracy theories'.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
5.6  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

With the help of guards who were paid more money than they could earn in their entire career.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
6  Colour Me Free    2 weeks ago

What's his name was now an old man, life had lost its luster, locked up and exposed for the freak he was always 'assumed' to be.

What's his names death is no loss .. I am just sorry so many will never get their day in court.  

He took the cowards way out .. now I can only hope there will be no movies made of his sick life!!!

 
 
 
Kathleen
6.1  Kathleen  replied to  Colour Me Free @6    2 weeks ago

Hi C!

I hope you are having a nice summer...

I totally agree.. jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
6.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Kathleen @6.1    2 weeks ago

Hello B...

I just left you a message :)

It is raining, I am loving it ….

 
 
 
r.t..b...
6.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Colour Me Free @6    2 weeks ago
.. I am just sorry so many will never get their day in court.  

Even in death, he cheats his victims from any sort of reconciliation for the evil acts he perpetrated. A special place in Hell for this one.

On a side note...nice to see you again, my friend. Here's hoping you and yours are not only doing well, but thriving. Your voice has been missed.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
6.2.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  r.t..b... @6.2    2 weeks ago

After the gymnasts getting their day in court - I realized how important that ability to confront the person that violated them was .. these women will now never get that chance … 

 I have been computer less for a few months .. refused to by a new one :)  ultimately I put a new OS on my old laptop and ta da I am once again connected .. I so missed researching the 'so called' news … I spent the last couple fays stalking you .. Haha .. great comments as always..

Thank you my friend .. I have missed you

 
 
 
r.t..b...
6.2.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.2.1    2 weeks ago
stalking you .. Haha ..

Guilty as well...every log-in begins with a look for your avatar.  Smiling, I am. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
6.2.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  r.t..b... @6.2.2    2 weeks ago
begins with a look for your avatar.

Great minds ..... .....!  Laughing, I am - thought I was the only guilty one : )

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
6.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Colour Me Free @6    2 weeks ago

Hello Colour Me! How's things up in the great North country. Hope all is well with you and yours. Hot, muggy, and rainy down here on the SW border.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
6.3.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @6.3    2 weeks ago

Hello Ed ...

It has been a nice summer here .. not too hot, but a bit dry -  got a couple few fires burning here.  Keep the hot muggy, but feel free to send rain ... we have not gotten enough yet today..

Stay cool my friend and take care of you...!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
6.3.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.3.1    2 weeks ago

You as well dear lady.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7  Paula Bartholomew    2 weeks ago

 Or was he overcome with despair at the prospect of spending the rest of his life without wealth and power? 

That would be my guess.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7    2 weeks ago

He biggest worry would have been eventually getting shanked in the shower...while the guards looked the other way. One thing for sure....it's not very likely he committed suicide. This had to be a hit.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    2 weeks ago

I doubt it was a hit.  This entitled one percenter could not handle the life he was about to face.  No more 5 star restaurants, private jets, expensive booze, $5,000 suits, sex parties, rubbing elbows with other entitled one percenters, lavish parties, underaged girls, mega mansions and private islands for this pedophile and it pushed him over the edge. People have committed suicide for less.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

This just doesn't pass the smell test Paula....he was too high a profile suspect to have any kind of means to commit suicide in his cell. I expect a very in depth investigation will ensue....the public will demand it.

 
 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

Well no matter what the outcome of any investigation, the pos is dead.

 
 
 
Kathleen
7.1.5  Kathleen  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

Poor poor baby.  Karma took over.

 
 
 
Karri
7.1.6  Karri  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    2 weeks ago
it's not very likely he committed suicide.

It is very likely.  As soon as he was arrested and denied bail, I've thought he was a high risk.  He was too spoiled to spend any time in prison.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
7.1.7  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    2 weeks ago

There are a good many wealthy, powerful people, left, right, Arab, and Russian that would benefit from this turd not talking in court.  I feel those with that kind of power would find a way to make this guy "go away" so they can live their lives in the shadows.

That being said, lets see where facts and evidence take us with this event.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @7.1.7    2 weeks ago

Spot on!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

I can't confirm this but will if I hear further that the charges against him were unsealed the previous day and told to him.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    2 weeks ago

We learned yesterday Bill Clinton lied and an underage sex slave puts him at Pedo Island.

 
 
 
TᵢG
9  TᵢG    2 weeks ago
Or was he overcome with despair at the prospect of spending the rest of his life without wealth and power? 

... and (much worse) in prison

Bingo (IMO)

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
9.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  TᵢG @9    2 weeks ago

He was considering a deal and flipping on some very powerful people.

 
 
 
TᵢG
9.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @9.1    2 weeks ago

That is a very sensible hypothesis.   Any supporting facts?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
9.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.1    2 weeks ago

I doubt this very suspicious death is going to be pushed under the rug and forgotten about.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
9.1.3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.1    2 weeks ago

MSNFO WARS is blaming you guessed it, Russia

 
 
 
Jack_TX
9.1.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1.2    2 weeks ago
I doubt this very suspicious death is going to be pushed under the rug and forgotten about.

I'm curious why you think that. 

I'm thinking it will all be forgotten inside of 2 weeks or so.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10  XDm9mm    2 weeks ago

Personally, I don't give a shit.

Suicide or hit is immaterial.

He saved the taxpayers a shit load of money trying and incarcerating him.

As to whether any other people were or can be implicated in his deviant sex trade bullshit, that too is immaterial.  The only likely damage any would take would be to their 'reputations', which most probably don't care about.  Epstein was unique in that he was actually being held responsible for his actions.  Any others 'implicated' would likely not suffer the same fate as everything would be claimed as 'hearsay'.  The fabulously rich and elites are allowed a much different level of 'justice' than us lowly middle class/slightly rich enjoy, and our justice is much less forgiving than theirs is.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
10.1  1stwarrior  replied to  XDm9mm @10    2 weeks ago

Maybe so KD - BUT - Barr will probably get involved in this and, if he does, the walls are gonna fall on a lot of folks.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.1.1  r.t..b...  replied to  1stwarrior @10.1    2 weeks ago
Barr will probably get involved in this and, if he does, the walls are gonna fall on a lot of folks.

Would that become a symptom of Epstein Barr syndrome?

 
 
 
loki12
11  loki12    2 weeks ago

 Some people just need to go hiking when they’re told.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

The thing he is he had a pretty good chance of getting these charges dismissed as being covered under the previous plea agreement.  Odd to kill himself before the argument was heard.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
13  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago

Epstein dead.  No sleep will be lost.  One less pedophile living off tax payer backs in prison.

 
 
 
MrFrost
14  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

I am surprised trump hasn't ordered all flags lowered to half mast in honor of his little buddy Jeff. As a show of respect, trump is golfing all weekend in honor of his friend. His statement on jeff's apparent suicide was written a week ago and will be delivered Monday.

512  

 
 
 
livefreeordie
14.1  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @14    2 weeks ago

You appear to have the president confused with the rapist and proven molester Bill Clinton

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @14.1    2 weeks ago

Proof?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
14.1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  MrFrost @14.1.1    2 weeks ago

Why would anyone offer proof when they have their conspiracies to keep them warm?

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @14.1    2 weeks ago
proven molester Bill Clinton

Still waiting Larry...where is your proof? 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
14.1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  MrFrost @14.1.3    2 weeks ago

Be patient Mr Frost.  He's scouring his bible right now looking for it.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
14.1.5  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  MrFrost @14.1.3    2 weeks ago

You have google right?

Bill Clinton was at Pedo Island, eye witness testimony was released.

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  SteevieGee @14.1.4    2 weeks ago

😁😁😁😁😁

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @14.1.5    2 weeks ago

Do you? Eye witness saw trump fucking a 14 year old girl at epstiens house. But let me guess..you don't believe that and expect us to believe your bullshit? 

 
 
 
Don Overton
14.1.8  Don Overton  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @14.1.5    2 weeks ago

You prove it or is it just more of your make believe

 
 
 
livefreeordie
14.1.9  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @14.1.3    2 weeks ago

Forgot that I posted here

Juanita Broddrick

kathleen Willey

Sally Perdue

Paula Jones

 
 
 
WallyW
14.1.10  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @14.1.7    2 weeks ago

Eye witness saw trump fucking a 14 year old girl at epstiens house.

What witness?

Proof?

Source?

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @14.1.9    2 weeks ago

What do those names have to do with anything?

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  WallyW @14.1.10    2 weeks ago

Look up the court case.

 
 
 
lady in black
15  lady in black    2 weeks ago

And here you have it, the fucktard in the white house:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-retweets-post-implying-clintons-epstein-death

Trump retweets conspiracy theory implying Clintons linked to Epstein death

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.1  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @15    2 weeks ago

Keep an open mind.    

Lots of rich and powerful people implicated in this would be more than happy to see Epstein gone.    

Bubba is just one of many possibilities.

 
 
 
lady in black
15.1.1  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @15.1    2 weeks ago

Sorry, i don't do conspiracy theories.

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @15.1.1    2 weeks ago

Understood, your mind is closed to all possibilities that might not fit neatly into one of your preferred narratives.

Got it.

 
 
 
lady in black
15.1.4  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @15.1.2    2 weeks ago

Just because trump said does not make it the truth.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @15.1.4    2 weeks ago
Just because trump said does not make it the truth. 

Never said it did.  

However, denying the possibilities mentioned out of hand, strikes me as very short sighted and ignorant as hell.

 
 
 
lady in black
15.1.6  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @15.1.5    2 weeks ago

Believing in conspiracy theories is ignorant as hell.

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @15.1.6    2 weeks ago

True but since this isn't old enough to really prove one way or the other that this is just a theory, believing that it is just a conspiracy is the really ignorant stance to take.   Driven by a clear case of TDS i suppose.   Which is strange since Trump is one of the rich and influential people i speak of.

 
 
 
lady in black
15.1.8  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @15.1.7    2 weeks ago

Believing in ANY conspiracy theory right out of the gate and for trump to tweet about it and people already believing it as if it were FACT is an ignorant stance.  Driven by trump can't do no wrong I suppose

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  lady in black @15    2 weeks ago

that didn't take long

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

A change of lifestyle from being wealthy to being poor would not normally cause a person to commit suicide - people adapt.  IMO it was the combination of shame and the prospect of years in prison.

 
 
 
Karri
16.1  Karri  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @16    2 weeks ago
A change of lifestyle from being wealthy to being poor would not normally cause a person to commit suicide

My research shows otherwise.  It is frequently a cause of suicide.  Most years it is the second or third most common cause of suicide, but in years of recession/depression, it can rise to #1.  (In this case, recession/depression was not related in his death, but losing all his money and freedom certainly would lead to a high risk of suicide.)

 
 
 
TᵢG
16.2  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @16    2 weeks ago

Simply stated, he lost his life.   

Going from a multi-billionaire with a level of power and influence none of us likely can even properly imagine to one in which all power, all luxury, all freedom is gone and the near certainty of dying in prison seems like a staggering change to the negative.

If he did commit suicide, I see the motivation for doing so.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @16.2    2 weeks ago

Well, maybe I was just thinking about myself. I was once a millionaire with a city home in an exclusive Toronto location, a lakeside home in the country, two cars, a boat, investments in movies and land, etc. and now the only things of any value that I own are my camera and my computer.  And I'm happy.  LOL

 
 
 
TᵢG
16.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @16.2.1    2 weeks ago

You left some things out.  You went from a Canadian millionaire to a Chinese emperor.

Seems to me, you are free with a loving wife in an environment that you find stimulating.   Being happy is ultimately what life is all about, right?

jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @16.2.2    2 weeks ago

What did you mean by "Chinese Emperor"?

(Notice my Rockport Walker uncovered by the robe under the table.)

512

 
 
 
TᵢG
16.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @16.2.4    2 weeks ago

I was referring to a comment made by an NT member living in China who holds that his wife treats him as an emperor.  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16.2.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @16.2.5    2 weeks ago

LOL. You KNOW that was me.  Besides all the things that I've said to describe her, where she really differs from North American women, is that North American women demand that their husbands put the toilet seat DOWN when they finish, whereas my wife, without being told, always puts the toilet seat UP when she's finished.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
16.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @16.2    2 weeks ago
If he did commit suicide

You're not the first person I've seen who questioned that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
16.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @16.2.6    2 weeks ago

Of course I know it was you who said that.  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

I am kidding with you.

 
 
 
TᵢG
16.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @16.2.7    2 weeks ago

Well after a suicide attempt one would expect that the facility had the ability to disable suicide.   Especially suicide by hanging.

Couple that with the near certainty that Epstein had plenty of shit on very influential people, it is not too much of stretch that his death would be a convenient resolution.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16.2.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @16.2.8    2 weeks ago

I knew you knew

I'm kidding you too

 
 
 
GregTx
17  GregTx    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
GregTx
18  GregTx    2 weeks ago

What makes you think that Epstein's death had anything to do with either of those excuses?

 
 
 
Kathleen
19  Kathleen    2 weeks ago

I don’t think any of the people involved with all this should breathe easy. The victims can still speak out and name whoever had sex with them. Other witnesses can also speak out. 

No.... he did not take this to the grave, too many others were involved and too many victims know who they are.

There should be a list of all the scum involved, men and women and show the public. That way they can be humiliated. Hopefully they will stab each other in the back to try to save their own hides.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
19.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Kathleen @19    2 weeks ago
There should be a list of all the scum involved, men and women and show the public. That way they can be humiliated.

Right.  Guilty or not, let's hang them out to dry.   

So much for due process Kathleen.

Do Duke Lacrosse and Tawana Brawley ring a bell?

 
 
 
Kathleen
19.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  XDm9mm @19.1    2 weeks ago

So you think they should do nothing then?  Let the scum that was with underage girls and whatever else they did just die with him?

As far as not guilty or not, lets find out if they are......  If they are not, then they have nothing to worry about.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
19.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Kathleen @19.1.1    2 weeks ago
So you think they should do nothing then?  Let the scum that was with underage girls and whatever else they did just die with him?

I NEVER said that.  You're inferring that on your own.

As far as not guilty or not, lets find out if they are......  If they are not, then they have nothing to worry about.

That's quite the contradiction with your previous statement, and I quote:

There should be a list of all the scum involved, men and women and show the public. That way they can be humiliated.

Unfortunately, your "If they are not, then they have nothing to worry about." is moot.  Even if they DID NOTHING, their reputations and lives have already been destroyed due to the "list of all the scum imvolved" being published BEFORE DUE PROCESS.

So, let me ask, do you want mob rule even if the 'accused' is innocent after being destroyed prior to having a possibility of defending him/her self?  Your statements above indicate so.

 
 
 
Kathleen
19.1.3  Kathleen  replied to  XDm9mm @19.1.2    2 weeks ago

Okay XD. Fine.

 
 
 
freepress
20  freepress    2 weeks ago

Whatever the reason, the victims are more victimized than ever because of this. I truly hope there is evidence and others that can be brought to justice and that the evidence proves beyond any reasonable doubt what happened.

 
 
 
Split Personality
21  Split Personality    2 weeks ago

Seed is locked.  Author absent for over 24 hours and different threads have wandered afar from the intended topic

 
 
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