Different Verse, Same as the First?

  
By:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  3 weeks ago  •  269 comments

Different Verse, Same as the First?

Remember this Op-ed printed in the New York Times on September 5th of last year?

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

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Here we are, more than a year later, still dealing with Donald Trump's inept style and methods.  While the memory of the opinion piece has been over-shadowed by increasingly worse revelations coming from within this administration, the issues are the same.  And, as if on que, Trump is dealing with the issues as he did back then:  With temper tantrums and other embarrassingly childish antics.  The difference is that now, he has put this nation, my nation , in jeopardy with his clear and present disregard for The Constitution of the United States.  More concerning are the attempts by supporters to justify Trump's actions and behavior...and for what?  A border wall that isn't built?  Extra dollars put into the pockets of the already wealthy?  Hateful and abusive rhetoric directed at Democrats?   

Different verse same as the first?  No.  It's much worse.  Our democracy is under attack.  That means we are all under attack...Republicans, Independents and Dems...all.  We need to set aside partisan issues and do something now. 

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 weeks ago

Trump has been demanding to know who the whistleblower is.  Considering that 55% of our nation's citizens support impeachment proceedings , I feel safe in saying that the whistleblower is us.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

I suspect that number is going to continue to climb.  As it does, GOP senators are going to start speaking out of the other sides of their mouths.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1    3 weeks ago
I suspect that number is going to continue to climb.

Up six points from yesterday.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

I saw that... long overdue! jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
 
JBB
1.1.4  JBB  replied to  WallyW @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Your poll is olde. After the weekend 55% are now in favor of impeachment...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

After the weekend 55% are now in favor of impeachment...

..."proceedings". 

Finished it for ya.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

The whistle blower is in federal protective custody.  This way Trump's minions can't bully or intimidate him like Trump would be sure to do if he knows who he is or meets with him.  Trump is demanding to know who he is saying he has the right to confront his accuser.  He can do that in court.   Hopefully the government is taking steps to protect the family also because once his identity is known, they will attacked on social media and possibly face physical harm and even death threats from the deplorables.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2    3 weeks ago
Trump is demanding to know who he is saying he has the right to confront his accuser.

Of course he is, he needs to attack their character and come up a snappy nickname that his base can run to the message boards and repeat for the next 300 years because lets face it, trump can't attack the facts which in this case, are REALLY damning. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

When this person does testify, he should alter his appearance.  His name should only be known to the judge, the court recorder, and the lawyers.  A gag order should be issued to those lawyers to expect contempt of court charges if they release it.  Considering the attacks that Trump could unleash, it is paramount that the whistle blower be protected as much as possible.

 
 
 
Karri
1.2.3  Karri  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
His name should only be known to the judge, the court recorder, and the lawyers. 

However, if one of those lawyers is Rudy, you can be sure he will tell Trump.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.3  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

the head in that picture belongs under the bus, preferably the rear tandems...

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.3.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @1.3    3 weeks ago
the head in that picture belongs under the bus, preferably the rear tandems..

That's where I found it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.3.1    3 weeks ago

That bus with Donny-Boy is a metaphor.

The bus is America and he's driving it over a cliff

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    3 weeks ago
That means we are all under attack...Republicans, Independents and Dems...all.  We need to set aside partisan issues and do something now.

I wholeheartedly agree.  We need to root out the traitors in the administration and congress that are willfully manufacturing bullshit claims against the duly elected President of the United States and force the Democrats to work with President Trump on actual issues.  Immigration law changes as well as the SECURITY wall where necessary, infrastructure including roads, tunnels and bridges, tax law changes to lessen the burden on the people, reigning in the ever expanding bloated federal government and elimination of unnecessary agencies AND elimination of the numerous overlapping programs within multiple agencies that are targeting the same issue, drug law changes and the list goes on.

But, the only item on the agenda of the Democrats is:

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.........   

What they need to remember in their zeal for impeachment is if successful, they'll be faced with working with an Evangelical Christian.   And they think they have problems with Trump........

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago

Pence will be watching his P's and Q's knowing that he could  be next if he messes up.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1    3 weeks ago
Pence will be watching his P's and Q's knowing that he could  be next if he messes up.

He's a choir boy that will eviscerate the left.  But, have no fear, he won't need to.  Trump is effectively eviscerating the left on a daily basis.  He thrives on the shit they try.  It invigorates him and gives him great glee in destroying their wet dreams.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Prick Pence is no fucking choir boy.  He's as complicit as the 'president' and the whole administration/cabinet in all of his offenses.  

 
 
 
Krishna
2.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1    3 weeks ago
Pence will be watching his P's and Q's knowing that he could  be next if he messes up.

And BTW, guess who's third in line to lead the country if for any reason both the President and the Vice-President are unable to lead the country?

Yup-- its The Speaker of the House! :-)

 
 
 
Krishna
2.1.4  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
Trump is effectively eviscerating the left on a daily basis. 

If he "eviscerates the left" any more, he'll definitely be impeached and removed from office-- the voters are getting tired of his stupidity!

(Or if the Impeachment isn't completed by the election, he won't be re-elected...)

Either way its a win for America....

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

The only thing he is eviscerating is his presidency.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

She would be on alert also to watch her shit.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1    3 weeks ago

Trump already threw Pence under the bus. He said that the next thing they'll want is the record of Pence's phone calls to Zelensky. I'm sure they will...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago

How are Americans, witnessing our POTUS committing crimes traitors, while Trump has lied to you non stop since well before being elected, has run our country like a game show host on acid, tripping aimlessly through his entirety as our shining symbol/ beacon of hope and inspiration as he bangs his pornstar playmates for the low low price of $230,000 as he picked em right of the discount rack at Walmart, where Trump isn't qualified to be the greeter wearing an X and current Wife beater. 

Can any actually say, boy, i hopes my boy or girl or ? grows up to be just like that oh  so dis-             

honor  ring grabbing lizard man from the depths of mortar, as he claims it's some ass's phault that he is detested for being someone who has molested our world renouned leader ship reputation by being the one, who we would be least like the heroes who our children(or grandchildren) we would want to imitate and emulate cause 

i know of none who hold lying, cheating, greedy men of power in high regards, and i'm sure you'll explain how all pols are like this, and you would again be wrong.

 Trump has limboed so low, the bar is closer to Chinese tariffs costing what, 28 Billion (Trump )induced costs upon US taxpayers to subsidize our farmers who voted for this abomination .  How much was the auto bailout that Obama initiated again, less than half of that he just quietly slipped without much notice or fan fair as he has also upped our debt to 20 trillion dollars, after claiming Mexico will pay for an unnecessary Wall to stop the invading hordes he crowed about right before the 2018 elections,  all the while robbing our military while ignoring doing anything about the proven Russia etc threatened elections approaching rapidly, as he still believes Putin over our intelligence agency's and wishes to stop illegals from swimming across the swamp moat that he drained enough to more easily select the lowest least qualified/antithesis of said administration that he appointed them to ,till they were exposed via Mueller for Russia contacts lied about, resigned in disgrace, fired by Trump via twitter, or left due to not being able to look themselves in the mirror honestly, and reflect upon their contribution to support the angry mentally unsound herd round the world for being the guy so cool and rich, them bitches just let him grab them by their private parts in public wholesome Touching acts of affection.The once universally Respected Office, of the Presidential Office of our United States that was formerly the position held by the leader of the free world.   

has been trashed by a con man artist, who  couldn't draw a conclusion to begin with.              

The rats will be deserting ship soon, stay and listen to the band, as Trump tweets of Civil War

yea, what a hero

 
 
 
Krishna
2.2.1  Krishna  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2    3 weeks ago
Can any actually say, boy, i hopes my boy or girl or ? grows up to be just like that

Good point!

(Well, maybe a few of the nuttier Evangelicals can-- many of them are tremenous hypocrites whi would secretly like to have an affair with a porn star!)

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2    3 weeks ago
How are Americans, witnessing our POTUS committing crimes traitors,

What Americans "witnessed" a crime?   Everything thus far has been speculation, supposition, conjecture, hearsay, rumor ad nauseam and to be quite candid, it's tiring.

Bring forth FACTS, PROOF, and EVIDENCE and I'll join the ranks of those demanding he be removed from office.  Until then, it's simply more bullshit being tossed against the wall hoping beyond hope that something, anything sticks.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.3  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.2    3 weeks ago

Seriously, Trump COULD shoot someone on 5th Ave. on live TV and y'all would claim he has the right and the victim deserved it anyway. 

 
 
 
Karri
2.2.4  Karri  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.2    3 weeks ago
Everything thus far has been speculation, supposition, conjecture, hearsay, rumor ad nauseam and to be quite candid, it's tiring.

Did you read the memo of the conversation?  The implicit quid pro quo is stunning; it could not be more obvious if it were explicit.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago
and force the Democrats to work with President Trump on actual issues.

Good luck man. Obama tried that with his republican congress and they almost literally did nothing for 6 years.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/29/in-late-spurt-of-activity-congress-avoids-least-productive-title/

You cannot force congress to work with a president. 

 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @2.3    3 weeks ago
You cannot force congress to work with a president. 

No need to force Democrats to work with President Trump.  I'll submit that once the current crop of bullshit is proved to be like all the other bullshit tossed at the man, and proved to be nothing like all the previous political bullshit with no basis in fact, the Democrats will be looking at a super majority of Republicans in the House and the Senate.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.3.1    3 weeks ago
with no basis in fact

"I need to ask you for a favor though...."

That one tiny piece of a sentence proves quid pro quo, and it is on trump's own call logs.... 

Also, trump admitted that Biden came up in the call, Rudy said on live tv that yes they were pushing the ukraine to get dirt on Biden, (which happened just weeks after Biden announced he was running for president), the call logs reflect exactly what trump and rudy have said and the WB report corroborates all three of these things. In other words, all the facts line up perfectly. Add to all of that, trump told Pence to withhold the funding for the Ukraine until trump could talk the the president of the Ukraine to find out if he would, "play ball". 

If this stuff applied to Obama? There would be ZERO question from the right wing as to guilt.  I am not a huge fan of Pelosi but she damn sure isn't dumb and no way in hell she would be pushing for impeachment unless she had some pretty damning evidence. 

But ya know what? Forget all that....

It should outrage you that trump was seeking help to win an election via a foreign country, (trump has admitted more than once he would do that and see's nothing wrong with it). America first? No, TRUMP first, at all costs. How much more unAmerican can you get than asking a foreign country to help you win a presidential election? Honestly, it makes me sick.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.3.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @2.3.2    3 weeks ago
"I need to ask you for a favor though...."
That one tiny piece of a sentence proves quid pro quo, and it is on trump's own call logs.... 

Really?

Quid pro quo ("something for something" in Latin ) [2] is a  Latin phrase used in English to mean an exchange of goods or services, in which one transfer is contingent upon the other; "a favour for a favour". Phrases with similar meanings include: "give and take", " tit for tat ", and "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours" and "one hand washes the other".

Source:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quid_pro_quo

Show me EXPLICITLY what is being offered in return for that "favor".  

You do realize that you need a this for that to be a "quid pro quo" don't you?  Or do you?

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3.4  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.3.3    3 weeks ago
Show me EXPLICITLY what is being offered in return for that "favor".   You do realize that you need a this for that to be a "quid pro quo" don't you?  Or do you?

Read the call transcripts. Your answer lies within. (Hint: Trump offered something in exchange for a favor....quid pro quo....you do what that means right?) BTW: You don't ask someone for a favor for anything without offering something in return.. Seriously, most people figure that one out in the 1st grade. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.3.5  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @2.3.3    3 weeks ago
Show me EXPLICITLY what is being offered in return for that "favor".

From CBSNews.com:

After Zelensky expressed his gratitude to Mr. Trump for the aid Ukraine received from the U.S., he said Ukraine was "ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps" in enforcing sanctions against Russia. "Specifically," Zelensky said, "we are almost ready to buy more Javelins (missiles) from the United States."

Mr. Trump responds, "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it."

Please hit the link and read the entire article.  If you love this country as much as I do, you'll find it extremely depressing.

 
 
 
Karri
2.3.6  Karri  replied to  XDm9mm @2.3.3    3 weeks ago
Show me EXPLICITLY what is being offered in return for that "favor".  

Those of us who actually read the conversation could easily tell that the "favor" was military equipment/systems/support.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.4  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago
Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.........

I suppose sending him to bed without supper will suffice, although grounding him from golf might have a larger impact.

I would even support Mike Pence if it meant Trump would need to start packing right now.  Hells bells, Alfred E. Newman would make a better POTUS. 

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igknorantzrulz
2.4.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.4    3 weeks ago
I suppose sending him to bed without supper will suffice, although grounding him from golf might have a larger impact.

I suggest he be sent to bed without his hooker pornstar playmates, and ground into the Gulf of Mexico      FORE !

 
 
 
pat wilson
2.4.2  pat wilson  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.4    3 weeks ago

Send him to bed with no twitter account.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.4.3  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  pat wilson @2.4.2    3 weeks ago
Send him to bed with no twitter account.

Now that's the ultimate punishment for Trump!  He would rather pack and leave.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.4.4  Krishna  replied to  pat wilson @2.4.2    3 weeks ago

Send him to bed with no twitter account.

LOL!

But wouldn't that be considered "cruel and unusual punishment"-- which is forbidden by The Constitution?

 
 
 
Karri
2.4.5  Karri  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.4    3 weeks ago
I suppose sending him to bed without supper will suffice,

Well, he could do with fewer hamburgers and scoops of ice cream.  Perhaps giving him a vegan diet (including lots of kale and broccoli) would have more of an impact on him.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.4.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Karri @2.4.5    3 weeks ago
Perhaps giving him a vegan diet

You're mean. I like that

 
 
 
devangelical
2.5  devangelical  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago

the walking thumper Q-tip of a VP has just realized his political career is now terminal

 
 
 
Krishna
2.6  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago
What they need to remember in their zeal for impeachment is if successful, they'll be faced with working with an Evangelical Christian.   And they think they have problems with Trump........

A wise olde saying from the Chinese:

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Or as we say in the west:

You've gotta start somewhere!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago

Did you have the same outrage when the Repub's agenda was impeach, impeach, impeach in regards to Bill Clinton? 

 
 
 
Dulay
2.8  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago

That comment might possibly be the most delusional shit I have ever read. 

 
 
 
CB
2.9  CB   replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago
"duly elected"

"Duly impeached and removed if found guilty. That's all.

 
 
 
Karri
2.10  Karri  replied to  XDm9mm @2    3 weeks ago
We need to root out the traitors in the administration and congress

Do you feel the same way about those who spoke out about Nixon?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

Thanks for posting this, Sis

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 weeks ago
Thanks for posting this, Sis

YW.  I was running low on one-liners and thought I'd better spank up something serious.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
4  Dean Moriarty    3 weeks ago

This letter is describing the actions of a deep state. The author isn't fooling anyone. 

deep state
noun
1. a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy.
 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  Krishna  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    3 weeks ago
The author isn't fooling anyone.

Be Afraid...be very afraid! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

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Dean Moriarty
4.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Krishna @4.1    3 weeks ago

The author is clearly deep state. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

The author is clearly deep state. 

Just another conspiracy theory not based in reality. Like windmills cause cancer, Obama wiretapped trump tower, etc.. All bullshit, all debunked. 

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

The author is clearly deep state. 

Words of wisdom Moriarity-- great wisdom indeed!

But there are things we can do to protect ourselves (deep secrets known only to a few!!!)

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MrFrost
4.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Krishna @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

Oh a stylish one too.. Very nice..

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.5  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.4    3 weeks ago
Oh a stylish one too.. Very nice..

Just my opinion of course...but if you're going to be paranoid, you might as well do it in style! 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Krishna @4.1.5    3 weeks ago

Slap some blue lightning bolts on the side... Hell ya!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.7  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

Had we elected Bernie or Jill Stein, the government would have disposed of them too. The electorate has two choices and it's establishment candidates or nothing.

The title should read " Different verse, same as the other."

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

The author is clearly deep state. 

Dean, did you ever notice that every time trump says or does something stupid/illegal/immoral, he always has a conspiracy theory to back it up with? None of which are ever true, of course. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.9  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.8    3 weeks ago
Dean, did you ever notice that every time trump says or does something stupid/illegal/immoral, he always has a conspiracy theory to back it up with? None of which are ever true, of course. 

MrFrost, here's the CORRECT version of your post:

MrFrost, did you ever notice that every time a DEMOCRAT says or does something stupid or utters a vitriolic anti President Trump diatribe, he/she always has a conspiracy theory to back it up with? None of which are ever true, of course.

 
 
 
WallyW
4.1.10  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
Just another conspiracy theory not based in reality.
Like  collusion and obstructionism
 
 
 
TTGA
4.1.11  TTGA  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
The author is clearly deep state. 
Just another conspiracy theory not based in reality.

What theory?  The author just admitted that it exists and that he is part of it.  What else could this mean?

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

Actually, the Deep State was described as early as 1978 as the top two levels of the unelected bureaucracy.  I would suggest that you read A Time For Truth (1978) by William E. Simon, former Secretary of the Treasury.  The Deep State is the modern equivalent of the Chinese Mandarin Class in the early Chinese Empire.  While the Emperor reigned, they actually ruled.  That may work well for an ancient empire but it most certainly is not all right in a republic.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.9    3 weeks ago

MrFrost, did you ever notice that every time a DEMOCRAT says or does something stupid or utters a vitriolic anti President Trump diatribe, he/she always has a conspiracy theory to back it up with? None of which are ever true, of course.

Wasn't a dem that said windmills cause cancer, "deep state", Obama not born in the USA, hurricane maria death toll, Qanon, murder of seth rich, spy gate, 3 million illegals voting, white genocide conspiracy, etc.... It's a long list. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.13  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.12    3 weeks ago
Wasn't a dem that said windmills cause cancer, "deep state", Obama not born in the USA, hurricane maria death toll, Qanon, murder of seth rich, spy gate, 3 million illegals voting, white genocide conspiracy, etc.... It's a long list.

And that has anything to do with what I responded to how?

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.14  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.13    3 weeks ago

And that has anything to do with what I responded to how?

every time a DEMOCRAT says or does something stupid or utters a vitriolic anti President Trump diatribe, he/she always has a conspiracy theory to back it up with?

........................

You said that, yes? That's what I was replying to. Dems aren't the ones spreading conspiracy theories every time something goes wrong, that would be The Orange Crested Howler Monkey in the WH. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.15  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.14    3 weeks ago
Dems aren't the ones spreading conspiracy theories

Russia, Russia, Russia

Collusion, Collusion, Collusion

Conspiracy to cover up, Conspiracy to cover up, Conspiracy to cover up,

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine,

and now that that seems to be disintegrating right before their very eyes, even before it got traction, we're back to:

Conspiracy to cover up, Conspiracy to cover up, Conspiracy to cover up,

I only want to know how many and which other countries the left will use in their next round of vitriol.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.15    3 weeks ago
Russia, Russia, Russia Collusion, Collusion, Collusion

The Mueller report specifically stated that while trump didn't seek out help from Russia, he did accept help from Russia when it was offered. Mueller reiterated that fact when he testified after the report was released. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.17  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.16    3 weeks ago
The Mueller report specifically stated that while trump didn't seek out help from Russia, he did accept help from Russia when it was offered.

I KNOW you have a place to cite that bit of fallacy right?

He indicated he might accept it, but having read the Mueller report myself, I never found any reference that he DID accept it as you claim.

So, go to the report, and provide the link to where he did as you claim.   Then come back and provide the link to it.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.18  XDm9mm  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.17    3 weeks ago
The Mueller report specifically stated that while trump didn't seek out help from Russia, he did accept help from Russia when it was offered.
I KNOW you have a place to cite that bit of fallacy right?

MR FROST.....

I KNOW you're still around as you replied to me below about 16 minutes ago.

You DO have a valid viable link to support that bit of balderdash you posted about the Mueller report reiterating Trump ACCEPTED Russian help.  you do have it don't you?  Are you going to disappoint me with an admission of the BULLSHIT you posted?

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.19  Krishna  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.7    3 weeks ago
Had we elected Bernie or Jill Stein, the government would have disposed of them too.

If we had elected either of them.

If!

That reminds me of an olde saying:

If my grandmother had a wheel and two handles, she's be a wheelbarrow!

IF!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.20  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.16    3 weeks ago
The Mueller report specifically stated that while trump didn't seek out help from Russia...

Hold up.  He did seek help from Russia.

https://youtu.be/3kxG8uJUsWU?t=41

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.21  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.20    3 weeks ago
Hold up.  He did seek help from Russia.

Not really.   He told them IF they have the emails she deleted the MEDIA would probably like them.  He never asked for them personally.  NEXT.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.22  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.20    3 weeks ago

I stand corrected, I forgot about that. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.21    3 weeks ago

Not really.   He told them IF they have the emails she deleted the MEDIA would probably like them.  He never asked for them personally.  NEXT.

Yea, really. Do you really think he would ask for them to HELP the media that he slams on a daily basis? No. He asked so they could be used AGAINST Clinton during the election HE was running in. 

Do you really need for him to say, "Hey russia, help me win the election by getting the missing emails!!!!", for you to understand what he was saying? My god man. Reading between the lines really ISN'T your thing is it? 

I've been trying to play nice with you but good god man, enough with the spin ok? 

 
 
 
CB
4.1.24  CB   replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

And Dean, its gonna get you at last! At last! "The Deepness" - the deepness, I said! Trump and his 'shallow' state are blah! Who wants this shallow state with Donald looking down all the 'avenues' to see if anybody, I mean any minion at all, gets out of its box! Make no mistake, Trump is running a TV show from the White House. It's called:

APPRENTICE: White House Edition

th?id=OIP.l78kZVh1gqfQ6wyu-4wmrgHaEK&pid

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.1.25  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

It's "bowl-shaped", and you know what they are now saying about that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    3 weeks ago

That deep state bullshit?

jrSmiley_44_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
4.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @4.2    3 weeks ago

a deep state is where those traitors that defy due process of the constitution will ultimately find themselves

 
 
 
Sunshine
4.2.2  Sunshine  replied to  devangelical @4.2.1    3 weeks ago
I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda 

Those who are determined to undermine a duly elected President without due process care about the constitution?

Pelosi and company can tell the bullshit about caring about the constitution to her sheeple.

 
 
 
devangelical
4.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.2    3 weeks ago

that's not my quote. nice try...

mental defectives that believe their demigod is above the constitution will find themselves in the same political trench

 
 
 
Sunshine
4.2.4  Sunshine  replied to  devangelical @4.2.3    3 weeks ago
that's not my quote. nice try...

Didn't say it was.  It is from the article.  

believe their demigod is above the constitution 

You must be speaking of Obama and his fan club that protected Hillary.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.5  Krishna  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.2    3 weeks ago
Those who are determined to undermine a duly elected President without due process care about the constitution?

That's why Pelosi has not advocated by-passing due process but rather she's finally agreed to begin the process-- of Impeachment hearings (to determine whether or not to proceed to the next step).

Don't you ever watch (or read) the news?

 
 
 
Sunshine
4.2.6  Sunshine  replied to  Krishna @4.2.5    3 weeks ago
Don't you ever watch (or read) the news?

Why yes I try, do you?

I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda 
Those who are determined to undermine a duly elected President without due process care about the constitution?

I was referring to the author of the article.  If you followed the conversation, you would know that.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @4.2.5    3 weeks ago
That's why Pelosi has not advocated by-passing due process but rather she's finally agreed to begin the process-- of Impeachment hearings

Actually, it's never been noted by ANYONE, Republican nor Democrat that there has been an official vote in the House Judiciary committee to commence an Impeachment Inquiry.  I'm sure if Jerry Nadler held such a vote, it would have been mentioned by the Republicans on the committee.  Once that inquiry has officially begun and concluded, comes the task of bringing the Articles of Impeachment the committee draws up to the entire House of Representatives for a floor vote.

And to date, I don't believe even Jerry Nadler has indicated an official inquiry that HE initiated as chairman of the committee he has the authority to do.  He's danced around the edges quite a bit, much like Pelosi has, but neither has indicated an 'official' inquiry has been started.   It's required by the rules of the house if they want to do it properly.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.4    3 weeks ago
You must be speaking of Obama and his fan club that protected Hillary.

Surely you must be aware that neither of them is still in office?

(Or...maybe not?)

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.9  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.7    3 weeks ago
Actually, it's never been noted by ANYONE, Republican nor Democrat that there has been an official vote in the House Judiciary committee to commence an Impeachment Inquiry. 

Are you under some kind of delusion that the Judiciary committee has to vote to commence an Impeachment Inquiry? 

Oh, BTFW, on Sept. 12 the Judiciary Committee had a hearing on the Resolution for Investigative Procedures and the Resolution was agreed upon. Those rules will be used during the Impeachment Inquiry hearings. It says so right in the resolution. You should go read it. Or you can watch the hearing here:

https://judiciary.house.gov/legislation/markups/resolution-investigative-procedures

 
 
 
Karri
4.2.10  Karri  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.7    3 weeks ago
Actually, it's never been noted by ANYONE, Republican nor Democrat that there has been an official vote in the House Judiciary committee to commence an Impeachment Inquiry. 

Actually,

Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another resolution composed of one or more "Articles of Impeachment" to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why or that impeachment is not called for.


The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.

https://www.thoughtco.com/impeachment-the-unthinkable-process-3322171

No Articles of Impeachment have been written yet, so there is nothing upon which to vote.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.3  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    3 weeks ago
This letter is describing the actions of a deep state

The letter is describing the actions of someone in a deep state.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Since this "Ukraine" story broke, trumps approval rating has been dropping like a brick thrown off trump tower...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

(posted at 8:03am, 9/30/19)

 
 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  WallyW @5.1    3 weeks ago

The linked article is 5 days old.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

I hate to be captain obvious but your seed is a year old.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

Except for the Rasmussen part of your RCP link, so is yours. And it (Rasmussen)  has 49-50 job approval. Has nothing to do with impeachment.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

well Trump can still relate

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.2    3 weeks ago
I hate to be captain obvious but your seed is a year old.

'Remember this Op-ed printed in the New York Times on September 5th of last year?'

If you had bothered to read it, above is the very first sentence of this piece.

DUH.  Make that Captain Oblivious.  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.6  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

Don't have to be splitting chins do we?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.7  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Thank you, Captain.  This is an opinion piece and the included bit of journalistic excellence was included to remind us of what was said a year ago.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.7    3 weeks ago

that was the first thing I picked up on when I read your seed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.6    3 weeks ago

So you obviously didn't bother to read it, including the very first fucking sentence of the piece.  

Don't like being called out on your own ignorance I see.  

 
 
 
Old Hermit
5.1.11  Old Hermit  replied to  WallyW @5.1    3 weeks ago

Your poll is a week old and already out of date WallyW.

New poll: Majority of Americans against impeachment and removal of Trump
Jeanine Santucci, USA TODAY Published Sept. 25, 2019

Now that America has heard Trump admit that he used the power of his office to try and coerce a foreign Government into interfering in our 2020 election, (To paraphrase Trump; You want our weapons to help you fight off the Russians?   Fine, " I would like you to do us a favor though" ), the National opinion on his Impeachment has changed.

CBS News poll: Majority of Americans and Democrats approve of Trump impeachment inquiry

By Jennifer De Pinto, Anthony Salvanto, Fred Backus and Kabir Khanna
September 29, 2019

Poll: Majority of Americans say impeachment inquiry into Trump is necessary

Updated 10:14 AM ET, Mon September 30, 201

Support for Trump impeachment inquiry jumps after Democrats launch probe, polls say
Published September 30, 2019 Updated 2 hours ago

Here are results from a few of the surveys on impeachment taken after Pelosi announced on Tuesday that the House would start an inquiry:

  • A CBS News/YouGov poll found 55% of Americans approve of Democrats starting an impeachment inquiry, versus 45% who disapprove. The survey found nearly 90% of Democrats back an inquiry, while 49% of independents and only 23% of Republicans support one. The poll was taken Thursday and Friday and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 2.3 percentage points.
  • A Politico/Morning Consult poll showed 43% of voters think Congress should start an impeachment inquiry into Trump. The same share of voters said lawmakers should not go forward with proceedings. The survey was taken Tuesday through Thursday. Support for impeachment jumped 7 percentage points from a previous poll taken Sept. 20-22.
  • A Hill-HarrisX poll found 47% of registered voters back Democrats’ decision to start an impeachment inquiry, while 42% oppose the move. Support for impeachment spiked 12 percentage points from three months ago. The survey was taken Thursday and Friday and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3.1 percentage points.
 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.12  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Old Hermit @5.1.11    3 weeks ago

about fckn time people woke up and faced the reality that's been glaring at us from a man without convictions, and hopefully that changes asap

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.13  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.3    3 weeks ago
Except for the Rasmussen part of your RCP link, so is yours. And it (Rasmussen)  has 49-50 job approval.

I did not link that.  You'll find my link here:

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/47865/different-verse-same-as-the-first#cm1169307

 
 
 
devangelical
5.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Old Hermit @5.1.11    3 weeks ago

thanks again for constantly being the stone that truth is carved upon...

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.15  XDm9mm  replied to  Old Hermit @5.1.11    3 weeks ago
Your poll is a week old

Give me a little while.   I'm sure I can find a poll that indicates most Democrats don't have two brain cells to rub together.

Polls are like opinions and assholes.   However, of the three only the asshole has a distinct and viable purpose.

Every poll taken can generate the predetermined and desired outcome of the pollster predicated on the wording of the question.  Now I KNOW you're intelligent enough to know and understand that.  Shit, if polls were accurate, we'd be saying Madame President now wouldn't we?

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.6    3 weeks ago
'Don't have to be splitting chins do we?'

[deleted]

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  Old Hermit @5.1.11    3 weeks ago

You Sir, are a rock star. 

800

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

Except for the Rasmussen part of your RCP link, so is yours. And it (Rasmussen)  has 49-50 job approval. Has nothing to do with impeachment.

Cherry picking ONE poll doesn't mean shit. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.13    3 weeks ago

Sorry. That should have been to Frost.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.19    3 weeks ago

Using a job approval poll when the discussion is impeachment,  doesn't mean shit either.

 
 
 
Krishna
5.1.22  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.15    3 weeks ago
I'm sure I can find a poll that indicates most Democrats don't have two brain cells to rub together.

OK-- I'll take you up on that!

I will be waiting with bated breath (perhaps even a bit of baited breadth) for any links you find of a poll that indicates Democrats don't have two brain cells to rub together! (Well, I'm easy-- if you find a poll that indicates that they don't even have one brain cell to rub together that would be OK too).

When people publically state something as foolish as that...its always a cause for a few giggles-- some well deserved mirth!

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.21    3 weeks ago

Using a job approval poll when the discussion is impeachment,  doesn't mean shit either.

Quoting ONE poll out of 80 doesn't scream out accuracy, it screams out cherry picking. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.24  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @5.1.22    3 weeks ago
OK-- I'll take you up on that!

Your wait is over:

Pollster (me)

Sir, do you believe that Democrats have

1- more than two brain cells to rub together

or

2- are short by one cell of having a full pair.

Respondent (me) 

The answer is definitely number two.  Hell, even having one complete brain cell might be a stretch.

I hope you didn't turn blue holding your breath!!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.23    3 weeks ago

Still a job approval poll (your link) to make your case on impeachment is screaming out "I don't know what I'm talking about and need to find something to make it sound relevant".

 
 
 
Karri
5.1.26  Karri  replied to  WallyW @5.1    3 weeks ago

This one is from 9/30/19:

American voters are divided on impeaching and removing President Trump from office, 47 – 47 percent – closing a 20 point gap from less than a week ago, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University Poll released today. In the poll released on September 25th, voters said that the president should not be impeached and removed 57 – 37 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us09302019_udmp46.pdf/

 
 
 
MrFrost
6  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Thanks Sis! Great article!!!

 
 
 
Sunshine
7  Sunshine    3 weeks ago

Well, all of us just have to let it play out like we did the Mueller report and we know how that ended.  Democrats made fools of themselves with that and everything else they have thrown at the wall, but nothing has stuck.  This debacle that they have started will make fools of them again just in time for an election.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
7.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sunshine @7    3 weeks ago

The fools have been, and continue to be, the supporters and defenders of a national embarrassment, as they support Russia's choice to preside and have it be denied.

If you don't realize Putins' accomplishemnts at bargain basement small %'s of our ridiculous 700 billionish military budget, you should. 

Our country continues to be in denial, and it is a concern for us all. We are all mericans first. Sooner or later , people have to realize  

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.1    3 weeks ago
The fools have been, and continue to be, the supporters and defenders of a national embarrassment,

Yes they have and continue on with their humiliation. I suppose Mueller didn't provide enough red meat for them.  More material for the sane people to laugh and snicker at while the clown show continues.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.2  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sunshine @7.1.1    3 weeks ago
More material for the sane people to laugh and snicker at while the clown show continues.

We giggle, chortle, chuckle, laugh, guffaw, cackle, and occasionally snigger, but we seldom snicker.

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.2    3 weeks ago
but we seldom snicker.

we know

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

Speak for yourself, Sis. I constantly snicker

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.5  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.4    3 weeks ago
Speak for yourself, Sis. I constantly snicker

The only time I snicker is when there is a doodle at the end of it.

jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Ender
7.1.6  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

Sometimes I let out a snort, kind of embarrassing though.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.7  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @7.1.6    3 weeks ago
Sometimes I let out a snort, kind of embarrassing though.

I forgot about the snort.  There are really two kinds of snorts.  One is the kitty-cat snort that is rather cute and endearing.  Then there is the all-out, off-the-chain, OMG did I just do that?! snort.  I find that those who exhibit the second kind of snort show a great deal of enthusiasm for laughter and the lighter side of life in general...at least that's what I tell myself when I do it. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @7    3 weeks ago
Well, all of us just have to let it play out like we did the Mueller report and we know how that ended.

512

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.2.1  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @7.2    3 weeks ago

No evidence any American colluded with Russia....ain't that nice.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

No evidence any American colluded with Russia....ain't that nice.

Ok, that's not what I was replying to. I quoted what I was replying to. You're just trying to spin away from it. Not happening. Sorry. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.1    3 weeks ago
No evidence any American colluded with Russia....ain't that nice.

So it's more of a glory hole situation with Trump just sticking his tiny dick through the hole...

"Russia, if you're listening... my campaign dick is dry, and a tape of me saying bad stuff was just released, so... not asking for any help, but if your mouth happens to fall on that flaccid flesh sticking through the hole in the stall, no one would ever know..."

“I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin."

"I don’t think you would need the sanctions,”

"Ooooh, yeah, that feels nice, release those stolen private US citizen emails... yeah, I like that..."

"Mmmmmm, those fake ads all over social media, that feels so good... and you greasing me up with $1.25 million a month worth of those deceptive pieces of slime against my opponent, feels so incredible..."

"Oh my, warm hands cupping my campaign, hacking 22 State voter databases and being given campaign polling data by my campaign manager so you can target American voters for me, so tender, so gentle..."

"But I didn't collude! I swear! My dick sucked itself!"...

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.2.4  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @7.2.2    3 weeks ago

I was talking about the Mueller report, why bring up Hillary?

You're just trying to spin away from it.

You tell others she is not relevant anymore so why do you keep bringing up Benghazi?

No evidence Americans colluded with Russia is how that investigation ended.  But the deranged Democrats keep on howling.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.2.5  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @7.2    3 weeks ago

Think Frosty - think buddy.  

Billary was NEVER SWORN IN when she was questioned by any of the committees - NEVER.

ALL of the person's questioned by Mueller were sworn in - ALL OF THEM.

Now think for a minute - if you're NOT sworn in, you can friggin' lie all you want and they, the questioniers, can not charge you for falsification/lying during questioning.

Huge difference.

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.2.6  pat wilson  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

Who cares about collusion ? It's obstruction, a crime of which he has NOT been proven innocent. Mueller couldn't do that and he said so ad nauseam. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.2.7  Sunshine  replied to  pat wilson @7.2.6    3 weeks ago
Who cares about collusion

Everyone did until the Mueller report was released.  Why is that?

a crime of which he has NOT been proven innocent

I see you do not believe in the rule of law or due process.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.2.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.7    3 weeks ago
I see you do not believe in the rule of law or due process.

As if the justice system gets it right every time. No, Mueller couldn't conclusively prove Trump criminally conspired with Putin, just like prosecutors couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that OJ stabbed his wife and Ron Goldman. Trump had everyone around him lying to investigators, Mueller said that did impede the investigation, and Trump said "I don't remember" more than 30 times to the written questions which were all Mueller was allowed ask.

 
 
 
Sunshine
7.2.9  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.8    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
7.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @7.2.6    3 weeks ago
It's obstruction, a crime of which he has NOT been proven innocent.

Even MORE importantly, it isn't a crime he has ever been charged with, so why on earth would he be found innocent OR guilty?

Have you been found innocent of beating your mother?

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.2.11  pat wilson  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.7    3 weeks ago

I simply stated the facts. Your comment about what I believe is ludicrous.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.12  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @7.2.5    3 weeks ago
Billary was NEVER SWORN IN when she was questioned by any of the committees - NEVER.

She did an 11 hour live tv interrogation under oath, that's just the one I can remember off the top of my head. How many times has trump testified under oath? Never. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
7.2.13  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @7.2.5    3 weeks ago
Think Frosty - think buddy.   Billary was NEVER SWORN IN when she was questioned by any of the committees - NEVER.

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi !

It certainly appears that Hillary was indeed questioned under oath during one of the Benghazi committee hearings

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/clintons-sworn-testimony-congress-contradicts-fbi-directors-testimony

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/22/9592898/hillary-clinton-benghazi-hearing-news-updates

You can even watch some of it on CSPAN

https://www.c-span.org/video/?328699-1/hillary-clinton-testimony-house-select-committee-benghazi-part-1

 
 
 
CB
7.2.14  CB   replied to  MrFrost @7.2.12    3 weeks ago

Can you believe it? Trump could not even get through a 'lawyered' set of questions with the Special Counsel remarking on the poor quality of the answers! 1stwarrior, your pick for president is truly unremarkable, but that is is not the worst of it, Donald is sadly pathetic. Walk will me 1stwarrior,. . .down to the studio window where Donald is testifying " L I V E: ON  AIR" before a House committee and not only is he lying over the hardball questions from the democrats, Donald is lying on the softball questions from Republicans.

Underhand-toss-to-the-2nd-baseman.jpg

 
 
 
Karri
7.2.15  Karri  replied to  Texan1211 @7.2.10    3 weeks ago
it isn't a crime he has ever been charged with,

That is only because of an OLC memo from the 1970s, which has never been tested.  It may be unconstitutional.  There are certainly many crimes for which he could be indicted if he weren't President; in fact, I often wonder if avoiding indictment is the primary reason he is running for reelection.

 
 
 
CB
7.2.16  CB   replied to  Karri @7.2.15    3 weeks ago

Hi Karri! Momma Trump might have raised a boy who grew up to be selfish in the extreme, but she did not raise a total fool! Donald ain't announcing it outright, but he knows what side his bread browns!

 
 
 
Krishna
7.3  Krishna  replied to  Sunshine @7    3 weeks ago
we know how that ended.

Some people don't. So..how did it end?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8  Nerm_L    3 weeks ago

Well, impeachment won't happen any time soon.  Senators Warren, Sanders, Harris, Booker,  Klobuchar, and Bennet have declared themselves to be political opponents of Donald Trump by running for President this election cycle.  Democrats have demanded officials recuse themselves from any investigative or judicial proceedings for far less.  The participation of Senators running for President would only create the perception that impeachment was a political circus and Democrats wouldn't fare well.

An impeachment trial really can't begin until after the DNC convention closes on July 16, 2020.  And an impeachment trial during the general election campaign would be a disadvantage for incumbent Senators running for reelection.  

The political collapse of the Mueller investigation really did stymie efforts to impeach Trump.  It's too late to go forward with impeachment that isn't tainted by election politics.  Especially with so many Congressional Democrats running for President.  Nancy Pelosi is going to do the grand stall and try to run out the clock.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1  MrFrost  replied to  Nerm_L @8    3 weeks ago
Well, impeachment won't happen any time soon. 

The dems said the same thing about Clinton. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    3 weeks ago
The dems said the same thing about Clinton. 

Bill Clinton was impeached in the middle of his second term.  Clinton's impeachment affected the midterm elections.  The timing of the Mueller investigation coincided with the midterm elections of Trump's first term.

Democrats launching an impeachment trial going into a general election for President won't be the same as Clinton's impeachment.  The political stakes will be much higher for a Trump impeachment than it was for the Clinton impeachment.

 
 
 
Krishna
8.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @8    3 weeks ago
The political collapse of the Mueller investigation really did stymie efforts to impeach Trump.

That's debatable.

But remember-- new evidence of possible crimes have come to light since then!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @8.2    3 weeks ago
That's debatable. But remember-- new evidence of possible crimes have come to light since then!

Richard Nixon resigned in the middle of his second term; three months before the midterm elections.  Bill Clinton's impeachment spanned the midterm elections and the trial concluded four months after the midterm election.

Impeaching Trump during a general election won't be politically the same as either the Nixon investigations or Clinton's impeachment.  History doesn't really serve as a guide for impeaching a President in the midst of a general election.

 
 
 
Krishna
8.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.1    3 weeks ago
History doesn't really serve as a guide for impeaching a President in the midst of a general election.

No-- bu t the U.S. Constitution does!

(And it doesn't matter at what stage in the election cycle it occurs).

But then-- I assume you knew that (didn't you?) 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @8.2.2    3 weeks ago
No-- bu t the U.S. Constitution does!

(And it doesn't matter at what stage in the election cycle it occurs).

But then-- I assume you knew that (didn't you?) 

Democrats seem to have adopted the nasty habit of ignoring voters.  The concern is that Democrats will impeach Trump and voters will impeach Democrats.

There are several Democrats in Congress running for President.  It won't be easy to avoid allegations that the impeachment has been rigged for political gain.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Con logic:

Impeaching for lying about a blowjob? Good.

Impeaching for trying to use a foreign country to win a presidential election? Bad.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago
Impeaching for trying to use a foreign country to win a presidential election? Bad.

We didn't need to worry about that.  Hillary lost, even WITH the help of foreigners.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
9.1.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1    3 weeks ago
Hillary lost, even WITH the help of foreigners.

Most people have forgotten all about Hillary.  Why can't you?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.1    3 weeks ago
Most people have forgotten all about Hillary.  Why can't you?

Maybe because she has a penchant for inserting herself into everything possible in vain attempts at remaining relevant.   Hell, if she would simply TRY to stay out of the news, maybe I could erase that nightmare from my memory.  But, every-time I'm getting close, BAM....  there she is again on the nightly news.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe because she has a penchant for inserting herself into everything possible in vain attempts at remaining relevant. 

Sorry, I am calling bullshit on that. Fox news runs stories about her about 2-3 times a week. I am pretty sure she isn't calling fox and asking them to run stories about her. And even here on NT we get "I hate Hillary" articles on a fairly regular basis. 

She hasn't even worked for the government in what....4 years? 5? And the nutters keep running stories. CDS is real. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.3    3 weeks ago
Sorry, I am calling bullshit on that. Fox news runs stories about her about 2-3 times a week.

Call whatever you want bullshit.  Fox is reporting what other networks report.  I'm sure that MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS etal would have hizzy fits if FOX ran news clips with their logos if they did in fact NOT make those clips themselves.

Try again.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

Hillary is not calling networks asking for coverage. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.5    3 weeks ago
Hillary is not calling networks asking for coverage. 

Immaterial, she's still on the news.  Deal with it.  I'm forced to, why not you?

 
 
 
Krishna
9.1.7  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1    3 weeks ago
Hillary lost, even WITH the help of foreigners.

What's Hillary got to do with it? A feeble attempt at derailing the conversation at best.

(Heck-- Hillary no longer holds any office-- surprised you didn't know that..)

 
 
 
Krishna
9.1.8  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.3    3 weeks ago
Sorry, I am calling bullshit on that. Fox news runs stories about her about 2-3 times a week.

Some people on Fox still think she's in office! (Well, actually they probably know the facts-- but they also know their viewers don't...and are easily fooled).

There's an olde saying about most of the types that get their news from Fox-- sand believe everything said on the station:

A fool and his mind are easily parted!

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.6    3 weeks ago
Immaterial, she's still on the news.

So how is it her fault if the media runs a story about her, if she didn't ask them to? Let me remind you of what you said above....

Maybe because she has a penchant for inserting herself into everything possible in vain attempts at remaining relevant. Deal with it.

I do, it's you that cannot seem to stop inserting Hillary into your comments. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @9.1.8    3 weeks ago
A fool and his mind are easily parted!

Fox was not the network that was continually claiming Russia, Russia, Russia, collusion, collusion, collusion, Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, but what networks were and which segment of the populace lapped it up like hungry kittens as a bowl of milk?  It sure as hell wasn't the Republicans or Independents.

So, I really must ask, which fool and mind were easily parted, and remain parted to this day?   After all else failed, it is now after all Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine......

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.1.11  KDMichigan  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.1    3 weeks ago
Most people have forgotten all about Hillary.  Why can't you?

You must have missed her and Horse face Chelsea on CBS this Sunday. The interview was as I expected it to be...Hillaryious.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.9    3 weeks ago
I do, it's you that cannot seem to stop inserting Hillary into your comments. 

Maybe she should refrain from saying inane or better still insane things like President Trump is an illegitimate President.  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
9.1.13  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.11    3 weeks ago

Last thing we want is people forgetting and then next thing you know Beto decides to skip campaigning in swing states.

 
 
 
Krishna
9.1.14  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.9    3 weeks ago
I do, it's you that cannot seem to stop inserting Hillary into your comments.

Lawyers have a saying:

There's an old legal aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table."
In other words, if neither the law nor the facts are on your side, create a lot of sound and fury...signifying nothing!
(In the vernaculer popular on social media sites: if there's neither legal not factual evidence on your side-- derail! create a diversion-- and why not do your whattaboutism using some candidate that used to be important..but no longer is?)
 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.15  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @9.1.14    3 weeks ago
"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table."

And thus far, all we have are the Democrats POUNDING THE TABLE....   just sayin.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.10    3 weeks ago

Well of course faux news wasn't doing that.

Silly

Why would the 'presidents' propaganda network tell the truth about tRump?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.17  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.16    3 weeks ago
Well of course faux news wasn't doing that.

Silly

Why would the 'presidents' propaganda network tell the truth about tRump?

Why would they spew the bullshit that other networks did?   To date, nothing the networks other than Fox broadcast have proved valid.   

Come back when you find something they indicated has proved valid.   I WON'T hold my breath.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
9.1.18  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.11    3 weeks ago
You must have missed her and Horse face Chelsea on CBS this Sunday.

I confess that I did miss it.  Judging from your comment, I didn't miss much.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.11    3 weeks ago
expected it to be...Hillaryious.

Expected you to spell it wrong, again. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.1.20  KDMichigan  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.18    3 weeks ago
I didn't miss much.

Just Hillaryious Hillary crying about the election still.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.21  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.20    3 weeks ago
Hillaryious

Wow, twice on the same thread... 

Have you thought about getting professional help for your HDS? 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.1.22  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.19    3 weeks ago
Expected you to spell it wrong, again. 

256

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.22    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Kathleen
9.1.24  Kathleen  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

She was in 60 minutes last night talking about Trump.

 
 
 
Karri
9.1.25  Karri  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
if she would simply TRY to stay out of the news, 
What news are you watching?  I have only heard her mentioned twice in the last six months -- and those stories were about her new book.
 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.11    3 weeks ago

"You must have missed her and Horse face Chelsea on CBS this Sunday."

Of course you would say that about the former first daughter who is beautiful and accomplished.

What about that feckless cunt Ivanka?  Plastic everything and no accomplishments whatsoever.  Except being sister wife First Lady?

 
 
 
 
CB
9.1.28  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.11    3 weeks ago

Well, we won't ever get the unique occasion to 'dine' and be overwhelmed by your mugshot. So, Chelsea gets a 'mulligan.'

 
 
 
CB
9.1.29  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @9.1.22    3 weeks ago

Georgeous! I'm just saying,. . . *well. 458fa15003ae9d84d9aa8fcd200a8185--elizab   I'll take two of 'teary boy' and you can call me in the morning.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
9.2  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago
Con logic:

Impeaching for lying about a blowjob? Good.

Impeaching for trying to use a foreign country to win a presidential election? Bad.

Straight up fabulous comment.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.3  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago
Impeaching for lying about a blowjob? Good.

Well we know that the hound dog Billy Boy lied under oath, we have proof.

Impeaching for trying to use a foreign country to win a presidential election? Bad.

At this point, this is just Democrats howling like the crying wolf again.

The comparison is idiotic.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @9.3    3 weeks ago
At this point, this is just Democrats howling like the crying wolf again.

Well someone is living in denial... LOL

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.3.2  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @9.3.1    3 weeks ago

Where is the vote?  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.3.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Sunshine @9.3.2    3 weeks ago
Where is the vote?  

Are you saying wishes, hopes and dreams aren't viable?   Damn.

 
 
 
Krishna
9.3.4  Krishna  replied to  Sunshine @9.3    3 weeks ago
Well we know that the hound dog Billy Boy lied under oath, we have proof.

He's no longer in office (surprised you didn't know that)

 
 
 
Krishna
9.3.5  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @9.3.3    3 weeks ago
Are you saying wishes, hopes and dreams aren't viable?   Damn.

I think I can speak for most of us when I say that 

Our Thoughts and Prayers are with all the folks who think Hillary still holds office, and has too much power-- so she must be impeached!

(Don't laugh-- some people still feel that way).

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.3.6  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @9.3.2    3 weeks ago
Where is the vote?  

Maybe after the inquiry is done? Christ, they just opened it last week, patience. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.3.7  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @9.3.6    3 weeks ago
Christ, they just opened it last week, patience. 

But, you have Trump guilty and comparing him to Billy Boy already.  Who is living in denial?

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.3.8  Sunshine  replied to  Krishna @9.3.4    3 weeks ago
He's no longer in office (surprised you didn't know that)

Surprised you can't follow a thread.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
9.3.9  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @9.3.6    3 weeks ago

Frosty - you need to catch up bubba.  Inquiries of/about/regarding/concerning Trump began prior to the election in 2016.  When are they gonna learn they've got the losing hand???

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
9.3.10  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @9.3.9    3 weeks ago
Frosty - you need to catch up bubba.  Inquiries of/about/regarding/concerning Trump began prior to the election in 2016.

That was just the appetizer.  The meat and potatoes are slapping us in the face right now.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.3.11  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @9.3.9    3 weeks ago
Inquiries of/about/regarding/concerning Trump began prior to the election in 2016.

Perhaps, but a good portion of it was well placed as well. In any case my friend, the right doesn't have much room to talk in that area. How long has the right been running Hillary into the ground? 20...25 years? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.3.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.3.10    3 weeks ago
The meat and potatoes are slapping us in the face right now.

I thought, per Schiff, he SAW the evidence before regarding Russia, then collusion, then conspiracy, then Mueller, well, you get the idea.

Now, it's so bad, Schiff had to actually MAKE UP A FUCKING STORY to read into a Congressional hearing because the facts do not support the bullshit he's spewing this time either.....   but many on the left are lapping it up like hungry kittens lapping at a bowl of milk.

blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/456f20a1-e950-4efe-b800-653f0b42c176

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.3.13  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @9.3.12    3 weeks ago

Schiff didn't make up dick.  

 
 
 
Kathleen
9.3.14  Kathleen  replied to  Sunshine @9.3    3 weeks ago

I still remember him getting on national tv pointing his finger saying he never had sexual relations with her.  😆

 
 
 
Kathleen
9.3.15  Kathleen  replied to  XDm9mm @9.3.12    3 weeks ago

I hate that glaring eyed bobble headed asshole.

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.3.16  Sunshine  replied to  Kathleen @9.3.15    3 weeks ago
I hate that glaring eyed bobble headed asshole.

I bet he treats is staff like dirt.

 
 
 
Ender
10  Ender    3 weeks ago
think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more

Sorry but no. Harshly disagree. What in the world has he done to make us safer? Nothing. Stronger military? Please, he is taking money from the military for his fucking wall. All the fucking deregulation is only going to hurt us, the little people, in the long run. The tax reform was a really sad joke played on all of us, with no growth to show for it. Any tax cuts the smaller people may have received are eaten up by his tariffs.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @10    3 weeks ago
Sorry but no. Harshly disagree.

You're entitled to your opinion, even if in error.

What in the world has he done to make us safer? Nothing.

What other President, or any leader for that matter, ever accomplished when dealing with NOKO?  At least Trump is trying to change the status quo.  It will of course take time, but hell, nothing has been done for essentially 70 years prior, so there's a lot of catching up to do.

Stronger military? Please, he is taking money from the military for his fucking wall.

Yeah a stronger military.  At least now they won't need to cannibalize planes to keep other planes in the air combat capable.  He's also been successful in getting European countries (well most anyway) to contribute what they agreed to when they joined NATO.  I'd say that's a pretty good start.   

All the fucking deregulation is only going to hurt us, the little people, in the long run.

How exactly?   Be specific.   Is unleashing industry in order to create jobs a bad thing?   Have no fear.  There is sufficient pressure on business to not be the bad players of old.

The tax reform was a really sad joke played on all of us, with no growth to show for it.

Actually, there was great growth to show for it.  Further, due to those tax cuts, leaving more money in the pockets of the people, we have become the major force keeping the global economy from tanking.   Remember, the government has no money of it's own.  Everything it has and gets comes from the pockets of the people.

Any tax cuts the smaller people may have received are eaten up by his tariffs

I haven't seen any changes in prices for consumer goods.   Other than some minor seasonal price changes for fresh produce, everything I buy is essentially the same as it was last year and the year before.   Of course you have proof to support you contention, correct?

Further, someone had to take on China at some point.  They've been no good for us or our economy, or for that matter the people and economies of any country other than China of course.  Here's something everyone needs to remember.  Producer nations grow and prosper (see China over than last thirty years), consumer nations wither and die.  No nation or it's people can be relegated to being the clerks selling the product of another country and expect to survive.  At some point, it will be consumed by the producer nation.

 
 
 
MrFrost
10.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1    3 weeks ago
You're entitled to your opinion, even if in error.

Opinions cannot be in error since they are OPINIONS, not necessarily based in fact. That being said, ENDER is spot on. 

 
 
 
Ender
10.1.2  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1    3 weeks ago

What in the hell has he done with NK? Of course he loves him, does not change the fact that nothing has changed,

How is the military stronger? Spending more money doesn't mean it is used where needed most. Plus cannibalizing the money that would have been spent on the military personnel is pretty crappy.

Getting countries to pay more for NATO? Please that started under Obama.

So who needs clean air and water. By all means let industry pollute all they can. Who needs to breath and drink when they have a job...By all means fight California. How dare they want to have higher emission standards.

What growth for the tax cuts? Seems pretty stagnant to me. For all of the bluster it did very little for the average Joe. Plus blowing up the debt, who cares anyway.

So you see absolutely no problem with the tariffs...uh huh, sure. Maybe more farmers could use another bail out.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @10.1.1    3 weeks ago
not necessarily based in fact.

Thanks for the admission.  About all the left has ever provided has been opinion.  Hell, there's one right here on NT that continually seeds opinion articles as factual.

 
 
 
MrFrost
10.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.3    3 weeks ago
Hell, there's one right here on NT that continually seeds opinion articles as factual.

Then take it up with HA. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @10.1.4    3 weeks ago
Then take it up with HA. 

Wrong guess.   HA laughs at Paul Krugman who the other idolizes.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @10.1.2    3 weeks ago
What in the hell has he done with NK? Of course he loves him, does not change the fact that nothing has changed,

Change takes time.  At least they talk.

How is the military stronger? Spending more money doesn't mean it is used where needed most. Plus cannibalizing the money that would have been spent on the military personnel is pretty crappy.

More and more powerful weapons.  Allowing the warriors more time to regroup and spend time with family and friends.  

Getting countries to pay more for NATO? Please that started under Obama.

Really?  You do have proof of that don't you?

So who needs clean air and water. By all means let industry pollute all they can. Who needs to breath and drink when they have a job...By all means fight California. How dare they want to have higher emission standards.

Other than some Democrat controlled cities, American water is actually pretty good.   As to California, who the fuck died and left them in charge?  Why do 49 other states populace need to pay for the bullshit they believe is good?

What growth for the tax cuts? Seems pretty stagnant to me. For all of the bluster it did very little for the average Joe. Plus blowing up the debt, who cares anyway.

We had good growth but it has admittedly slowed.  Considering the rest of the world is trying to fight off recession we're doing pretty fucking good.  

So you see absolutely no problem with the tariffs...uh huh, sure. Maybe more farmers could use another bail out.

Oh, here's a hint:

Soybean prices, Deere shares jump after China agrees to buy ‘substantial’ US agricultural products

Source:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/soybean-prices-jump-after-china-agrees-to-buy-substantial-us-agricultural-products-in-trade-truce.html

Nothing is ever immediate.  It takes time to negotiate and compromise.

 
 
 
Ender
10.1.7  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.6    3 weeks ago

At least they talk? Since when? When was the last time?

Some more powerful weapons? What have they done, bought several new ships and planes. Giving more time for families? What trump initiative was this?

So the country is just doing great all except them dern Dem cities. So the state right republicans don't really care about state rights...got it.

Nothing is immediate...please. When Ivanka is getting copyrights in China while the rest is at a standstill...

Hate to break the news to you yet one of these days you are going to have to realize the emperor has no clothes.

Jesus Christ man, some need to stop parroting trump and his lies. Stop blaming his fuckups on everyone else.

Hell now we have trump sending the AG to another country trying to get them to dig up dirt on others. And you see nothing wrong with this?

I wonder how long the diehard supporters are going to continue to turn a blind eye and deny what is right in front of them.

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.8  MUVA  replied to  Ender @10.1.7    3 weeks ago

What is right in front of them your opinion?

 
 
 
 
Tacos!
11  Tacos!    3 weeks ago
The difference is that now, he has put this nation, my nation , in jeopardy with his clear and present disregard for The Constitution of the United States.

The nation? The nation is not in jeopardy. The nation is just fine. See, it's extreme hyperbole like this that makes it hard to take people seriously when they complain about Trump.

 
 
 
MrFrost
11.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @11    3 weeks ago
See, it's extreme hyperbole like this that makes it hard to take people seriously when they complain about Trump.

But that's all some people understand...

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.2  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @11    3 weeks ago
The nation? The nation is not in jeopardy.

Asking a foreign nation for help with any problem, be it political or otherwise, indicates a weakness that can be exploited.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2    3 weeks ago
Asking a foreign nation for help with any problem, be it political or otherwise, indicates a weakness that can be exploited.

You're kidding, right? We should never ask another country for help with anything??? We got help from France winning our independence and we have been getting help from other countries on an endless variety of issues ever since.

Our previous president - you might have heard of him? Barack Obama? - was like Mr. Globalism. He wanted to do everything under the sun in cooperation with other countries. If anything, the current president represents a turn away from that. He just got through making a speech at the UN where he reiterated his long standing position that he is interested in taking care of America first, and a lot of people criticize him for that.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2    3 weeks ago
Asking a foreign nation for help with any problem, be it political or otherwise, indicates a weakness that can be exploited.  

Seriously?   Did we not ask for help post 9/11?  

Or is it preferable to have a President TELL a foreign adversary 

Mr Obama   says: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defence, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space."

Mr Medvedev replies: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you …"

Mr Obama retorts: "This is my last election . After my election I have more flexibility."

Do you want more examples?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.2.3  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.1    3 weeks ago

There is a difference between asking for help with diplomacy, and asking for help with depravity.  

 
 
 
lib50
11.2.4  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.1    3 weeks ago
We should never ask another country for help with anything???

If we are talking about a president using US power to further his personal gain, NO, we don't.  And it should not need to be explained why.  Some may try to compare it to the Steele dossier, but  its not remotely the same thing, if one wants to know its all readily available to read.   It looks like Trump also tried to use Australia for personal political gains.  300 former national security officials say Trump compromised national security with his actions.  Its not acceptable.  He is not taking care of America AT ALL, he uses America, and he is taking care of Trump first and always. No country trusts us, and all know exactly how to manipulate Trump if they want something.

 
 
 
MUVA
11.2.5  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.3    3 weeks ago

Trump should have just said wait till after the election when he has more flexibility. 

 
 
 
MUVA
11.2.6  MUVA  replied to  lib50 @11.2.4    3 weeks ago

I agree the steele dossier was far worse than asking  for help in a corruption  case.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.3    3 weeks ago
There is a difference between asking for help with diplomacy, and asking for help with depravity.

Trump wants to know what Biden did as Vice President. You really think that's depraved?

I think depraved is putting out some story that a private citizen candidate gets hookers to pee on him. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.8  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @11.2.4    3 weeks ago
And it should not need to be explained why.

Yes, it should. If you want people to be so pissed off that they are willing to undo an election over it, you should have to explain it to them - without exaggeration or hyperbole - relying on hard, unequivocal facts, and you should not feel offended about having to do it. You should be proud to do it because you respect the gravity of what you are asking.

It looks like

It looks like? Sorry but that not close to the standard I and much of America will require. Looks like ain't gonna cut it. You want to impeach the president based on "looks like." That's terrible.

He is not taking care of America AT ALL

Hey, if you think he's a shitty president, that's fine. Vote the bum out next November. That's what elections are for. But that's not a reason to put the country through impeachment.

all know exactly how to manipulate Trump if they want something

All countries try to manipulate all world leaders all the time. That's not new. This catastrophizing is a huge problem for America. Too many people, because of political tribalism, try to characterize normal things as apocalyptic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.2.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.7    3 weeks ago

You truly do not understand that it is highly unethical for the president of the United States to use his office to instigate investigation of his main election rival. 

It's kind of incredible that so many people today seem to not understand that. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.3    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Texan1211
11.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2.9    3 weeks ago
his main election rival. 

LMFAO!

Perhaps you should wait to declare that to see if old sleepy Joe even IS the nominee.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.12  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2.9    3 weeks ago
You truly do not understand that it is highly unethical for the president of the United States to use his office to instigate investigation of his main election rival

Who should then?

 
 
 
Karri
11.2.13  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.12    3 weeks ago
Who should then?

Is this a serious question?  Do you really think that behavior by a sitting president is okay?   Have you ever taken a Civics course?  If you had, you would know the answer to that question.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.14  Tacos!  replied to  Karri @11.2.13    3 weeks ago

Or you could have just answered the question without all that other um, stuff.

 
 
 
Tessylo
11.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.1    3 weeks ago

The 'president' is interested in taking care of HIMSELF first and no one else.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
11.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.14    3 weeks ago
"Or you could have just answered the question without all that other um, stuff."

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Karri
11.2.17  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.14    3 weeks ago
Or you could have just answered the question

As someone who has run for office and served in elected office, I can tell you that you can NEVER ask anyone outside the country for anything that will help your election.  I have a large portion of my family living overseas and not US citizens.  Yes, they knew I was running, but any conversations we had could not be about US politics.  

So the answer to your question (If not Trump, then who?) the answer is NO ONE. It is so basic that every American should know that.  I knew that before I ran for office.

Did you know that before you asked the question?

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.18  Tacos!  replied to  Karri @11.2.17    3 weeks ago
So the answer to your question (If not Trump, then who?) the answer is NO ONE.

Then you have just created a system where no politician can ever be investigated for anything he did while serving so long as he declares he is running for office. You have just released them all from accountability to the public.

No thanks.

 
 
 
Karri
11.2.19  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11.2.18    3 weeks ago

Tacos, that comment (11.2.18) makes no sense.  I was all for the Mueller investigation and for the impeachment inquiry.  What is NOT proper is for someone running using their office to get oppo research from a foreign country or foreign head of state, especially after holding back on Congressionally-approved military aid.

And, if you are referring to Biden and son, that had been investigated by that country and they were found to have done nothing wrong.  However, I would like to see a law stating that no one in the immediate family of a high-ranking official (Pres, VP, Cabinet, Congressional member, as a starter) can be involved in any business outside of this country.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.2.20  Tacos!  replied to  Karri @11.2.19    3 weeks ago
I was all for the Mueller investigation and for the impeachment inquiry.

Well, you might consider whether or not you approve of investigating a candidate only when it's a candidate you know you already don't like.

oppo research

I think there is a difference between "oppo research" and uncovering details of actions by a public servant you have every right to.

after holding back on Congressionally-approved military aid.

My understanding is the aid had already been unfrozen, so unsurprisingly, it wasn't even in the conversation.

And, if you are referring to Biden and son, that had been investigated by that country and they were found to have done nothing wrong.

That may well be true. I'm not really concerned with what Hunter Biden was up to. I mean I guess I might care a little, but not very much. I'm much more concerned with any abuse of power by the VP.

That is: if the VP used his influence to protect himself and/or his son (and he might have done that whether he or Hunter had done anything wrong or not), I think the American people - and certainly the current president - have a right to know about it. That's not nearly the same thing as standard oppo research.

 
 
 
Karri
11.3  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11    3 weeks ago
The nation is just fine.

I doubt my father, my uncles or my husband (all of whom spent most of their adulthoods defending this country) would agree with that.  Personally, I don't agree with that.

I remember my father explaining the Domino Theory to me.  I said we would not losing our democracy through invasion; we would vote it out.  If my father were still alive, he would have to admit I was right.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Karri @11.3    3 weeks ago

We're still having elections. The results still count. None of that has gone away.

Last year, the Republicans lost the House, but you didn't see the president trying to undo it.

When he does do something people don't like, his lawyers get dragged into court. Sometimes they lose and sometimes they win.

A number of people predicted disasters upon his election that did not come to pass - not even close. Things may not be exactly as you would choose, but the nation really is ok.

 
 
 
CB
11.3.2  CB   replied to  Tacos! @11.3.1    3 weeks ago
the nation really is ok.

The President of the United States is a "permissive" liar and on a daily basis. When have you EVER known anything to be "OKAY" about anybody telling lies on a daily basis? Riddle me that! It is high time for y'all to close up this 'let Trump be Trump' camp!

Donald, I warned you, is spending and wasting money fluidly. Anything this country gains from Trump on one hand, you lose on the other hand! 

 
 
 
Karri
11.3.3  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11.3.1    3 weeks ago

So, you're okay with his crudeness, his ability to fall for any conspiracy the right throws out?  You're okay with the President of the US being laughed at while giving a UNGA speech?  You are okay with a President who flaunts the law, who lies almost anytime he opens his mouth?  You're okay with putting children in cages (or anyone for that matter)?  Are you really okay with a President using his office for personal gain (all those trips to Trump properties)?

Do you really like the direction he is dragging us through?

 
 
 
Tacos!
11.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Karri @11.3.3    3 weeks ago
So, you're okay with his crudeness

See, that and everything that follows is just such a stupid, dishonest conclusion to put out. I didn't say anything like that and you know it. And you have the nerve to be offended by Trump's mendacity. 

 
 
 
Karri
11.3.5  Karri  replied to  Tacos! @11.3.4    3 weeks ago

Oh, okay.  You're okay with everything he has done.  You are okay with his racist comments, and caging children after separating them from their parents.  You're okay with "grabbing them by the p*****".  You're okay with him going to foreign leaders to get oppo research.  You're okay with "s-hole countries".  You're okay with rewriting the poem on the Statue of Liberty.  (I could go on, but I am sure you know all the un-American things this creep has done.)  He has been so far out of line that other countries see him as a clown (remember last year's UNGA speech).  That is really sad. 

If that is true, then I am afraid we are at an impasse.

(BTW, my previous comment was about "everything is fine" when our country is headed in what many see as a dangerous place.)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

I'm glad that my friend Sister Mary has a very popular seed /article up for discussion. But this is not a complicated topic. Even though "anonymous" wrote a devastating op-ed about the Trump presidency over  a year ago, nothing has changed because "deplorable" support for the asshole has not changed. Nothing will ever take a toll on trump, IN HIS MIND, until his support with his base falters. He thinks he can get elected with 40 percent of the vote. (Bad at math). 

People who will continue to support Trump, no matter how ridiculous defense of him is forced by events to become, ARE the cause of most of our political problems today. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago
I'm glad that my friend Sister Mary has a very popular seed /article up for discussion. But this is not a complicated topic.

Um...thanks...I guess.

 
 
 
CB
14.1.1  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1    3 weeks ago

LOL! Sister! Leave it up to our birthday boy to figuratively stab the heart of the matter. "Our" John Russell is always fastened to the floor and grounded. Also, Sister! Home-run at bat!

Gotta sparkling-red-glitter-heart-gif-animatio   good old JR!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.1.2  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  CB @14.1.1    3 weeks ago
LOL! Sister! Leave it up to our birthday boy to figuratively stab the heart of the matter.

Apparently I'm a smartass on one article, and a dumbass on this one.  That boy needs to make up his mind.

 
 
 
CB
14.1.3  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @14.1.2    3 weeks ago

HA!

John Russell: PRICELESS*

* I would like two JRs, please!!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
15  Paula Bartholomew    3 weeks ago

Mayor Pete...2020

 
 
 
MrFrost
15.1  MrFrost  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @15    3 weeks ago

I like the guy, I would happily vote for him............or any dem running, to be honest. Hell, I would hold my nose and vote for Bernie if I had to. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @15.1    3 weeks ago

I would prefer that the dem nominee not be Bernie or Gabbard but I will vote for whoever the nominee is.  

I like Mayor Pete too, a lot.  

 
 
 
CB
15.1.2  CB   replied to  Tessylo @15.1.1    3 weeks ago

Mayor Pete is really an interesting and solid speaker! Of course, the question is and will be: Is the citizenry ready for 'the Gay'? Though, it will confuse conservatives mightily as to how should they run Trump against him. Were it to be so, that is.

 
 
 
Sunshine
15.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @15.1    3 weeks ago
Bernie if I had to. 

You should write in Hillary.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @15.1.2    3 weeks ago

I'm ready for a nominee like Mayor Pete. I don't care who he sleeps with

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.4    3 weeks ago

Same  here.  At least he only sleeps with one person.  

 
 
 
CB
15.1.6  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.4    3 weeks ago

Good on you! TG, "You're my Hero!"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @15.1.6    3 weeks ago

Is where I should mention I sleep with a cat?

 
 
 
CB
15.1.8  CB   replied to  Sunshine @15.1.3    3 weeks ago

Aw, you go on from here now with that!

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.9  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.7    3 weeks ago

So many ways to go with this...haha

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.7    3 weeks ago

Better it comes out now than later TG

Shesleepswithhercatgate#/catslutgate#

It will be in all the tabloids

 
 
 
MUVA
15.1.11  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.5    3 weeks ago

The guy he married he picked up at a men’s homeless shelter kinda weird if you ask me

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.12  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.10    3 weeks ago

Who doesn't like to go to bed with a pussy...

(told ya, I could get bad with this one: )

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @15.1.11    3 weeks ago

What's weird about it?  Dont you mean he met him at a shelter?

So the guy in the homeless shelter was unworthy?

 
 
 
CB
15.1.14  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.7    3 weeks ago

*Gasp** what you talkin bout TG? 320 Should I be worried? Call someone?
H A !

 
 
 
MUVA
15.1.15  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.13    3 weeks ago

No I think he was trolling for a man with problems so he could take advantage of him. When I go to a place to volunteer the last thing I try to do is hook up I actually go to help people.

 
 
 
JBB
15.1.16  JBB  replied to  MUVA @15.1.15    3 weeks ago

Where did you come up with that bullcrap? Chasen Glezman is a 29 year old public  junior high school teacher with a masters degree from DePaul University. He teaches both Humanities and Drama and is well respected by coworkers, parents and students. There is not one hint I could find of him ever being homeless or having suffered any mental problems. Is there nobody safe from the slanders spewed by the far rightwing propaganda machine. Slander is shameful. At long last have you no decency left? You should be ashamed of yourself...

 
 
 
CB
15.1.17  CB   replied to  MUVA @15.1.15    3 weeks ago

What means this? The 'well-placed' couple met on a dating app: HINGE.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.1.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.10    3 weeks ago

A fish who sleeps with a cat...there's quite a scandal there!

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.1.18    3 weeks ago

It's best to get ahead of things before you run for office.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @15.1.15    3 weeks ago

That has been proven to be a lie.  Why do you keep posting it?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.19    3 weeks ago

A fish who sleeps with a cat running for Dog Catcher......

That should make the National Enquirer, don't you think?

 
 
 
Sunshine
15.2  Sunshine  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @15    3 weeks ago
Mayor Pete...2020

If he wins, we will have the first First Spouse.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

Although I think it's possible that the NYT article could be fake news, I do wonder why the WH staff couldn't stop him from calling Jews disloyal, or from causing a trade war that is more harmful to Americans than it is to the Chinese.

 
 
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