Redirection: Abuse Trump For Coronavirus, And Ignore The Homeless Stew Boiling in Democrat-Controlled Cities
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Via: on-vacation-until-3-2-20-at-1145-pm-est • 5 years ago • 162 commentsBy: Dave King
The TDS displayed by democrats regarding President Trump and his policies is stunning. Pure hypocrisy.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Whew! Democrats have received a temporary reprieve at the last minute. Just as the homeless and disease-ridden streets of Los Angeles and San Francisco approach critical mass due to the don’t-give-a-damn mayors and governor in California, the Chinese-originated coronavirus appears on the scene and redirects attention from the west coast to this new threat, and the filthy Democrats, as is their habit, all turn on President Trump and place blame for this outbreak on him.
Democrats daily reach new lows with their criticism of President Trump. They don’t sit back and wait for a policy failure before they launch on him. Instead, they dump as policy is being developed and implemented, and then complain about how sensitive and defensive he is when he responds with questions as to their sincerity. Two weeks ago he was criticized as being an alarmist and called a racist for blocking incoming flights from China, where this health threat originated. And three days ago they attacked him again for not moving quickly enough to keep the threat from our borders. So by doing business this deceitful way Democrats get to attack him twice instead of only once, even though there has been no reason to attack him in the first place.
President Trump was simply minding the business of the nation, some of which includes trying to get Democrats to put a halt to their sanctuary cities nonsense, when the virus sprang from nowhere and was then blown out of all proportion by the radical, Democrat left as they tried to make political points from this disease as the 2020 election date draws near.
When the juvenile Democrats are out of power all they can do is initiate chaos and crisis in an attempt to undermine the party in power, while the more adult Republican in the Oval Office tries to address the threatening viral situation we are currently dealing with and save lives. The thought never occurred to the partisan Democrats to work with the president to calm America’s citizens in this time of concern over their health. All Democrats can do is attack him, call him incompetent and label him as being a danger to the health of the nation.
But we knew Democrats were snakes as soon as the 2016 election ended and Trump took office, because the leftist vipers performed illegal activities to try to get him removed from office. So we should stop being naïve and shocked with their antics and just ignore them in the future.
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President Trump was simply minding the business of the nation, some of which includes trying to get Democrats to put a halt to their sanctuary cities nonsense, when the virus sprang from nowhere and was then blown out of all proportion by the radical, Democrat left as they tried to make political points from this disease as the 2020 election date draws near.
When the juvenile Democrats are out of power all they can do is initiate chaos and crisis in an attempt to undermine the party in power, while the more adult Republican in the Oval Office tries to address the threatening viral situation we are currently dealing with and save lives. The thought never occurred to the partisan Democrats to work with the president to calm America’s citizens in this time of concern over their health. All Democrats can do is attack him, call him incompetent and label him as being a danger to the health of the nation.
Democrats attacks against Trump are unbelievable and dishonest.
That is the idiotic comment of the week.
Trump disbanded the Pandemic Response committee that Obama created ... he's blathering about having a vaccine in 2 months when a viable vaccine will take a year and a half - and if you don't think this coronavirus is a big deal. It is not being blown out of proportion.
Honestly, anti-science people disgust me.
Well at least President Trump didn't cut funding to the CDC like the 'son of a bitch' obama did. Not to mention the 12,000 plus deaths and 61 million people infected because of his failed lead from behind policies.
Maybe you could expound on that claim with some links.
These are the most recent CDC budgets - there don't to be any cuts, although monies were shifted from one program or another during the Ebola and Zika events.
8.8 billion in 2009
10.1 billion in 2010
10.8 billion in 2011,
11.125 billion in 2014,
11.134 b in 2015 and
11.177 billion in 2016
11.9 billion in 2017 despite a proposed budget of 7.1 billion
11.9 billion in 2018 despite the proposed budget of 7.5 billion
I can't get a handle on 2019 as it seems all requests lead to this graph of Trumps budget proposals which by rumor, Congress has ignored.
Seems we have conflicting sources...........................
Ouch ...... bazinga!
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Oh, and I wasn't talking to you................
your welcome, cheers, even a left wing news source for your pleasure.
Why not "Disband" a group that didn't see, even a simple "Coronavirus (Flu)" coming, and set up a new group that "Can" fight this !
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Hmm, HuffPost VS the actual CDC website and their own budget breakdowns.
Let me think about that,
So the gist of the Huff Post article is that Congress also ignored Obama's budget requests
while the CDC got funding from multiple sources, including the PPHF, PHP&R, ASTRACA and many others.
Ouch is right,
Government accountability in action, lol.
They DID see that something like this would eventually come - that's why Obama formed the group. But Trump disbanded it, because he'd rather have people die than leave anything in place that Obama set up.
Are you truly so ignorant about pandemics?
Yet....here it is !
Good Job Obama ….. and Team !
"because he'd rather have people die than leave anything in place that Obama set up."
Are you Fucking kidding me ?
The "Normal Flu" is killing more people in this country than the new and improved "Name Branded" ….. OMG …… "Beer Flu" !
Obama and Team shoulda concentrated on the "Normal", instead of the obsured !
Yeah and you conveniently skipped over 2013
So a left wing rag like huffpo isn't good enough for you to back up my claims, fucking Hillaryious.
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More ODS Bullshit?
Swine flu started in March of 2009 in Mexico, 50 days after Obama's inauguration during the economic meltdown.
After swine flu ran it's course, it was considerably less lethal ( .02) than the common flu (0.1) which still kills between 25,000 and 69,000 Americans every year, despite the constant public health warnings and free vaccinations.
?
You have a question ?
Stand and be recognized !
Recognize !
Sorry, I missed 2 years. 2012 & 2013.
from your HUFFPO link ....
Obviously, government budgets are very difficult to digest
which is why I tried to post links to the CDC's own webpages so that our members could compare apples to apples, without the ODS or TDS.
Cheers
What actually has that to do with anything, what are you trying to refute?
Was Obama president in 2009? Why that's a yes.
Did 12,000 plus people die from the swine flu in the US? Well Golly Gee that is another yes.
Did 61 million people get infected in the US? Well shucks that's another yes.
Did obama lead from behind? Now this is my opinion but I'm going with hell yeah.
Cheers
I guess if the shoe fits, lol
So you have nothing, again.
Got it.
By "your reasoning" Trump has led from behind allowing 150,000 people to die from the common flu since the day he was inaugurated.
16,000 died during the 2019-2020 flu season so far
Context matters.
Amazing how partisanship kills brain cells, isn't it? While defending their orange god to their deaths, they hate everything Obama just because.
In a failed attempt to prove me wrong.
Golly Gee wilikers it kind of looks like king Obama cut the CDC budget a lot.
Have enough to back up my statement that you are struggling horribly to disprove.
Did I say thaaaaaaaaaat ?
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Again you will take the HUFFPO figures as gospel over the governments own websites?
The CDC links, if you bothered to look, include all actual CDC funding from all sources.
Yep, you are comparing budget requests by a POTUS to actual monies funded as reported in the official CDC annual reports.
I have stated here and else where that Trump's suggested budget cuts were in fact ignored by Congress
the same way that Obama's budgets were ignored...
But just keep digging, it is amusing ...
No, you said "obsured"
I provide the definition
but think it is appropriate given your "style" of commenting.
Apples and bananas there SP. One is actual direct from Congress (which was the topic) funding and their budget reflecting all incoming support.
ooooohhhhh ……. "AD"- libbing !
Employed by CNN ?
Now you are trying to put words in my mouth, Sealioning from you? say it isn't so.
Lets get back to my original posts you are trying to spin and sputter your way out of after your failed attempt to refute it.
Well at least President Trump didn't cut funding to the CDC like the 'son of a bitch' obama did. Not to mention the 12,000 plus deaths and 61 million people infected because of his failed lead from behind policies.
You haven't refuted shit other than now you have resorted to 'But Trump'. Fucking Hillaryious.
Exactly my point, thanks.
The subject was the administration's funding proposed by POTUS Obama. You're being a bit obtuse it would seem following the thread. You be you though.
Well the truth be told, which you seem incapable of grasping, is that both Obama & Trump have made budget requests, up and down for the CDC which Congress has ignored and will probably continue to ignore. Neither has managed to decrease the CDC funding yet.
just keep spinning...
but Obama, and Hillary
Sorry Jim, Obama was not in anyway the topic of the seed, but someone just had to get a dig in at Obama
and the seeder hasn't interfered ( yet )
I don't see the words "proposed funding" in there. I just see pointless ODS.
You be you also.
He is just trying to get a rise out of me, He can spin and sputter all he want but he still hasn't refuted shit, but he did get some cheerleaders to jump in and start throwing insults my way. Take notice their comments stand while my saying that's his forte was removed 5 seconds after I posted it.
It should have read POTUS and Obama.....................
The main thing is that they read it.
Sometimes that is worth a coupon just so they know they ain't bullshitting anyone.
No matter what they say afterwards ..... which is usually pretty entertaining.
Yup just another bullshit post, still haven't refuted shit.
Yes it is isn't it?
Proglibs are defiantly struggling with their TDS ever since the anointed one Hillaryious Hillary lost a rigged election. I can't wait till November, 4 more years of sniveling and crying is going to be awesome.
"what goes around comes around" or What ye sow, so shall ye reap"
When the criticism on Monday is overreaction, but the criticism on Friday is under-reaction, that’s a good sign that it’s not genuine criticism, but partisan tomato-throwing.
That is the bottom line here. Pure TDS inspired hypocrisy.
There are cases in Canada, too - but like Trump, I guess it's just brown people you want to keep out.
You're the one who was whining about the border with Mexico while not saying a word about the border with Canada. People can draw whatever conclusions they want from that.
I think this is the second time you have implied that there is a danger from Mexico, when it fact they could make the case that they are in more danger from California, than we are of them.
Zero reported cases in TX, AZ & NM, so far.
We don't have caravans of people trying to illegally cross our northern border, so there's that.
We ( the US government) brought home 43 American passengers from the Princess cruise ship to Travis AFB,
18 of whom later tested positive for coronavirus.
Maybe this is the big city Dems plan.
Let the Corona virus burn through the homeless encampments ........ problem solved eh?
Sounds like something Trump would fully support.
He's not the one with the problem so irrelevant.
He's the one in charge of the pandemic response - so it's absolutely not irrelevant.
My comment was related to homeless encampments. Allowed and managed by local governments, not Trump. They built it, not Trump. They are responsible for it first, not Trump.
What do you suggest they do with the homeless people, lock them up?
I wonder if suggesting a potentially deadly disease should strike a group of people (the homeless) counts as death wishing.
As I recall, a "liberal" member of this forum had his article locked after he joked about Trump, rather than his supporters, being the victim in the middle of 5th avenue.
There is a writer named Anand Giridharadas. Despite his exotic name he is a born in the U.S. American. For the past couple years he has been writing and lecturing on billionaires, somewhat along the lines that Bernie Sanders does.
Yesterday I looked at my You Tube recommendations and there was a video featuring Giridharadas. In this video the subject of San Francisco comes up. Giridharadas notes that there are 7400 homeless in SF. (I suppose this was roughly the figure at the time the video was made). He also notes there are 74 billionaires in the SF metro area. Giridharadas notes the incongruence of homeless in the presence of such great wealth.
In other words, our society is doing something gravely wrong.
Good question but letting them inflict themselves in those cities, onto rest of the public is not the answer and unfair to everyone else.
People who are homeless by choice will never get fixed. Those who are homeless without choice are fixable through jobs training and other outreach programs. But only the willing can be fixed and they all aren't willing. Which is a huge part of the problem.
As i have already mentioned here once, my comment was clearly intended to be tongue in cheek. On the other hand most of your hateful posts, that you post here daily, are sincere. You clearly mean them. You have no high ground to stand on John. You are well below sea level on a regular basis here.
Trump could do more on the national level to address mental illness - a very high percent of the homeless are mentally ill. And what about his grand plan to address opiate addiction?
And if it's not the answer - again, if they are "homeless by choice" what do you propose doing with them?
Now i know i'm on the right track if you disagree. thx!
Lets since i've been voting ..... so could have Reagan, Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama and every state government since they started shutting down state hospitals and pushed meds and outpatient care ..... but got your shot in on Trump so you feel better today. Got it.
As i said, good question but inflicting them on the rest of the citizens is certainly not the automatic answer. How do you propose to protecting everyone else from the homeless by choice? There is a helluva lot more of those folks than homeless by choice.
Well, you're blaming liberal cities for homelessness ... I assume you feel better today for doing that.
Texas has a lot of homeless people, too - but it's all partisan to you.
I never blamed only "liberal" cities but the fact remains the biggest homeless problems are in liberally controlled big cities. Which is why Dem cities were pointed out.
Still waiting for an answer to my question. What would you do with the homeless by choice? Status quo or what?
Can only smh. donald complains about homeless people makes it a talking point, points blame and all the while is doing nothing himself about it.
When that is pointed out it is considered taking a shot at donald.
Twisted logic.
And how often do you volunteer in homeless shelters? I do .... regularly.
Your self righteous indignation is noted and is simple SOSDD for this place.
I only know members through their comments and seeds. I only know a couple of them in a more personal way, and it is strictly on line.
My comments about ridiculous right wing posts refer only to their comments. I don't "hate" anyone.
Katrix, we live in a culture of winners and losers, which is magnified a hundred times by the presence of Donald Trump as the national "leader.
If this society was not abnormally fascinated by the wealthy we would be taxing extreme wealth much more than we do and using that money to everyone's benefit.
Not just cities........................
https://www.usich.gov/tools-for-action/map/#fn[]=1400&fn[]=2800&fn[]=6200&fn[]=10000&fn[]=13200
The fact is the larger the city the larger the homeless problem. Common sense, more people. Imo it has nothing to do with being run by Democrats or republicans. The problem would still be there, unless they were removed by force.
Here in my city of about 45 to 50k we have homeless. When I lived near the beach I use to get them in my backyard and this is a very red place. Putting blame on either political party is a misnomer.
Fact is, a lot of them don't want help and even given help would end up right back where they were. The main thing they do here is open shelters when cold and meal programs.
I say, if anything, focus should be made. Focus on families, children and people that would want help.
What you call "homeless by choice" is generally a person who is mentally ill, an addict, or both. Treatment is the best option, but many of them are resistant to treatment. Forced treatment doesn't seem to work well because it still takes a lot of effort and desire on the part of the person being treated. Do we commit those who are mentally ill? I recall the horrific abuses in our mental health system in the past, so I just don't know. Jailing them isn't an approach I would take, so what else can we do?
Many big cities are more liberal due to their diversity and lack of isolation, and the cost of living is often higher in cities. There are also generally more services like shelters and soup kitchens and even dumpsters in cities. So it would make sense that the homeless tend to congregate in those places (especially in warmer cities). In SF, much of the homelessness is due to the high cost of living. For people who aren't mentally ill, who are working and who just can't afford to live there, I don't know what other option there is other than for them to find a job somewhere where there is a cheaper cost of living.
Unfortunately, that sounds about right. Even if the government did focus more of an effort on mental illness, many of the mentally ill don't want treatment, and neither do many addicts. Many of them won't even go into a shelter because they refuse to deal with the rules (or in some cases, the violence) in those places. We've never had a good way to deal with mental illness. We could at least try to do better for those who want help, as you said. And maybe a program to help those who are working but can't afford the cost of living to find a job elsewhere and relocate.
While this may true for about only 25% of the homeless population, i know a few truly "homeless by choice" in my own town who are fully capable of leading a productive "non-homeless" existence but "choose" not to. It is 100% their choice to be homeless. For some it is the ultimate expression of being free. Free from any responsibility whatsoever.
I interact with them regularly in the shelters i volunteer in and they could care less what you and i are arguing about here. They just know where to go to get a free hot meal and a free shower and hopefully a free warm clean bed to sleep on at night.
They gladly foist themselves on the kindness of their neighbors. Yup, no problem at all letting others take care of them. You aren't fixing that.
Why is it that conservatives can say the most disgusting, despicable things yet only the Democrats get blamed.
Tired of sheer hypocrisy, blaming and finger pointing, if not down right sick rhetoric from the right.
Ah c'mon man. With all the despicable things said here every day, day in and day out. Many of them by leftists. This is what you choose to vent your moral outrage on? A clearly tongue in cheek comment?
Amazing, simply amazing!
Sorry but it pisses me off. When we have don Jr saying despicable things and even the VP almost defending and adding his blame...
It is like there is two sets of standards. One for republicans and one for everyone else.
Horseshit.
There is much worse coming out every day from the left and most of it is not meant to be tongue and cheek in the least. It is meant 100% with no apologies forthcoming ... ever. Those don't seem to upset you.
Sorry but the double standard is yours
What is worse? I haven't seen it.
If you mean criticism about donald...
Really? You are honestly asking that? I said it was much worse because their is clearly more of it bombarding this site almost daily and didn't mean it was worse by incident per se.
If you can't see that then there isn't really much point to discussing this any further.
So no examples?
The way I see it is donald calls people names like a juvenile. Mini, shifty, Pocahontas...
And his followers jump on board and start doing the same. Then when someone on the left calls him a name back the response is...see they do it too...
Yep. A righty in here yesterday called Mayor Pete "buttiplug" - Trump has made these folks think it's normal to hate, and OK to do it publicly.
Ah yes .... the old two wrongs makes a right gambit ..... very well played sir. Very well played ..... /S
I'll leave you two to the slap fight you seem to have want here. Not interested.
If you want to discuss this honestly and sincerely let me know.
Otherwise, i've said my piece, i'm out.
The sad part is, when someone fights back it is just used as ammunition.
Almost gives some a justification to continue.
Who are the "leftists" on this site ? I have my doubts that there are any. There are a ton of moderates though. and the right.
"Leftists" support Bernie sanders. I dont recall seeing a single person on this site say they are specifically supporting Sanders for president.
One of the shortcomings of Newstalkers is there are not any "leftists" to present that point of view. I do it a little, usually to very little response, but I am not really a "leftist". I am not politically correct, not a tree hugger or a trans gender advocate.
I would vote for Sanders in a heartbeat though. He is a far far far far far better choice than Donald Trump.
It would be interesting to see if anyone on here considers themselves a "leftist" . I seriously doubt it after reading comments.
Thanks for the belly laugh this morning John.
You are the best!
Maybe you dont know what a leftist is. Not my problem.
I do note you couldnt name one though.
From before the election, we have this collection of "labels".
and I am sure there hundreds more most of which are from late night dumbasses and liberal, so called, comedians. And these are just the ones that I remember seeing.......here and at the old NV
You honestly think they are going to admit it?...........hahahaHAHAHA
Hypocrisy.................you know that.
Personally I dont often use names like that. It is a little juvenile . I prefer images like this one.
True your attacks don't usually resort to sophomoric name calling like some other children use here but your comments are no less full of vitriol and hatred towards Trump and/or anyone who in your mind supports Trump more than you think they should.
Once again John, you have little to no high ground here.
And those are all aimed at one individual, not lambasting the whole of republicans.
There it is. The requisite, and some say inevitable, lack of intelligence attack. Another leftist tactic.
I know a leftist when i see one John and I read your stuff here regularly.
well, you can call yourself whatever you want, but not many leftists support joe biden as a first choice.
lol. If you think there are a lot of leftists on newstalkers you clearly dont know what the term means
Urban Dictionary: Leftist
Leftist unknown A person belonging to the political left and usually identifying with the radical, anti capitalist, or revolutionary sectors of left politics. Includes anarchists , marxists, communists, socialists, and all other explicitly radical left ideologies.
Lol .... i don't think i'm the one with comprehension problems here
From Collins Dictionary:
leftist
I don't know what I would consider myself as both parties can disgust me.
I am a tree hugger, I support trans people and I actually like the idea of Medicare for all.
Yet Bernie gets on my nerves and I do not think he is electable in a national election.
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I dont hate Trump. He has never , for one minute, been qualified or fit to be president of the United States. Thats not my fault, it's the fault of the people that voted for him.
Trump has been president for three years. The same number of people that opposed him three years ago , every day, still oppose him today, every day. If he is president for another term he will be opposed , every day, for four more years. He's not fit for office.
The shame is that the "deplorables" keep propping the pos up.
Perhaps if Trump didn't constantly insult everyone, he wouldn't have been called so many names. Poor Snowflake In Chief - his fans can dish it out but they can't take it.
And perhaps you're forgetting "Obammy" and other crap people called Obama, even though he didn't go around insulting others like Trump does.
Dipshit Donnie gets the derision he deserves - if he doesn't like it, he can try to act like an adult for once in his life.
And i rest my case .....
So it's okay cuz "he's doing it too". That is a bit hypocritical. But not unexpected.
Typical. You rested your case without making it.
Is Joe Biden a "leftist" ?
shouldn't it have to work
,
before you
give it a rest already, cause you have assumed the spokepersonship, for many
as a whole, around here of the hypocrisy hillbilly heathen and thievin of what is considered
Right
round here.
So as Hypocrit in chief, what is the next attempt at attackin the Left out on an island...?
an island so many here can't quite apparently swim out to, so as the 'Phat' guy swattin persons with your Captains hat, asz ewe Gingerly attempt to Marry An simultaniously be divorced from reality,
can we ask
Howel...?
cause professor,
here on Perrie Gulligans aisle, some thing stinks, when leaders can't see Y they trip over the pew
I think people can be a mix. Probably only the activists are pure in their ideology.
In today's parlance "leftist" definitely means people to the left of Obama, Clinton and Biden though. Leftists are impatient with the pace of change toward a more egalitarian economy. I think Sanders and AOC probably fall in as "leftists" and there are some others in Congress, but they are a noticeable minority.
Is Nancy Pelosi a leftist?
lol.
If you want to be a leftist you can be a leftist.
I dont know why you want to play into the right's misconceptions though.
OMG.
Do you want me to post 50 articles explaining the difference between "liberal" and "leftist"? I can do that if you want.
You're the only one who doesn't see it John. Well maybe a few others here of like mind with you but that's about it.
By definition, yes, yes he is.
And i'm talking a real, established definition, like the one that i shared with you above.
Not some nonsensical definition, made up on the spot by some TDS ridden, left wing wackadoodle in attempt to support some leftist narrative du jour.
Tea kettle
Pop rocks
Banana spider
Guacamole
Bernoulli equation
Bud ....
If you think Joe Biden is a leftist you are too clueless to waste any more time on.
Your Ad Hominem attack aside, if you think he is not, then you are only trying to redefine the term.
A popular pastime these days for our pals on the left it seems and its just as futile an effort as it has ever been.
Actions like this in 2020 are going to help make 2016 look like a free Government cheese convention to our pals on the left.
Biden isn’t as far left as Sanders but his record and comments show him to be well left of center.
Yes we do and proudly so. He’s done a great job regardless what you thought or think of him. He is most certainly fit to be President now.
You must be new here.
This is what appears at the top of this seed
Redirection: Abuse Trump For Coronavirus, And Ignore The Homeless Stew Boiling In Democrat-Controlled Cities
Dave King
He sounds like he would fit right in here. I sent him an invite to join NTers. We could use more citizen journalists like him.
I doubt this site needs any more rwnj.
Well it certainly has no need of more LWNJ members here.
I hope he accepts but I don’t think many conservatives who aren’t already here would stick around with the restrictions we have.
I think we should invite the writers who contribute to American Thinker The Stream, Breitbart and others to join as individuals.
Add chicks on the Right to that list...
So when will democrats take on homelessness and other problems that exist in the cities they have ruled over non stop for decades to half a century or more? Where is their accountability?
Never.
Hey [removed,] how about instead of making my job harder you just tell people to wash their nasty hands and not touch their face?
Please don’t pollute my seeds with that kind of language.
I truly and honestly believe that because of the full hatred of this president by liberals, if Obama, Biden, Bernie and Warren all came out and announced tomorrow that they have found an immediate vaccine and cure from the corona virus, liberals would instantly hate those people for 2 reasons..
1. The found the cure during the Trump admin and
2. It would help Trump politically.
Many liberals cannot help but to hate just because a man's name is not Hillary.
You have it so right on in describing those people.