Grocery prices reach 50-year high amid pandemic

  
Via:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  102 comments

By:   Charly Edsitty Due (ABC Houston)

Grocery prices reach 50-year high amid pandemic
Due to the coronavirus pandemic, experts say grocery prices are higher than they have been in 50 years.

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KTRK By Charly Edsitty

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, experts say grocery prices are higher than they have been in 50 years.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, "The food at home index increased sharply in April, rising 2.6 percent...its largest monthly increase since February 1974."

April grocery sales showed a 4% price increase for poultry, meat and fish.

Cereal, baked goods and non-alcoholic beverages saw a 2.9% price increase.

The highest price spike was eggs, with a 16% increase.

Overall, grocery prices increased 2.5%.

Experts say the price increase has to do with supply and demand. Americans are shopping at the grocery store more than ever thanks to stay-at-home orders.

Additionally, some of our county's largest meat suppliers are dealing with coronavirus spreading inside their facilities and have been forced to close.

If you had plans for a cookout on Memorial Day, be ready to pay up.

One local grocer says hamburger meat prices have jumped.

"Last year, Memorial Day, our hamburger prices were $3.99 a pound. It's gonna be $5.99 a pound this year," he said.
However, there are still ways you can save on groceries during this time.

If you're ordering online, try to do it with a neighbor or friend to split delivery costs or even get it for free.

You can also sign up for store rewards programs and look around online for coupons you can show in store on your phone.

Unfortunately, many grocery stores are not offering weekly specials anymore because demand is so high.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

If we have a depression I think we will come out of it with something like social democracy. The country cannot go on with the wealth inequality we have. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trumps-usda-fights-court-ruling-protecting-food-benefits-during-pandemic/ar-BB142E8K?ocid=spartanntp

CHICAGO, May 13 (Reuters) - The Trump administration, aiming to tighten rules for federal food benefits, has appealed a federal judge's ruling that temporarily enabled hundreds of thousands of people to maintain food stamp benefits during the coronavirus pandemic, according to court documents.

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as SNAP, provides free food to 36 million Americans. During the pandemic, millions of U.S. residents have lost jobs, and thousands have waited in lines at food banks.

Last year, Congress blocked a Trump administration-backed effort to tighten the rules through the Farm Bill. Since then, the administration has tried changing rules at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program.

Critics said the appeal will hurt poor Americans, noting that last month the U.S. economy lost 20.5 million jobs, the steepest plunge in payrolls since the Great Depression.

"The lines at food banks have never been longer," said U.S. Representative Marcia Fudge, an Ohio Democrat. "And by any reputable account the worst is yet to come."

The USDA announced the rule in December and President Donald Trump said at the time many Americans receiving food stamps do not need them given the strong economy and low unemployment. The rule, set to take effect on April 1, limits each state's ability to waive work mandates, effectively requiring more food stamp recipients to work.

In March, Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., granted a preliminary injunction and a stay on part of the rule, noting food needs during the pandemic.

"As a global pandemic poses widespread health risks, guaranteeing that government officials at both the federal and state levels have flexibility to address the nutritional needs of residents and ensure their well-being through programs like SNAP, is essential," Howell wrote in her March 13 opinion.

USDA filed a notice on Tuesday saying it would appeal the order, according to court documents.

In an email to Reuters, USDA said it has been "extremely aggressive" to ensure food needs are met during the pandemic.

"While we’re currently in a very challenging environment, we do not expect this to last forever," the agency said, adding "we must prepare our workforce to rejoin the economy when our nation reopens."

U.S. law generally limits how long adults without disabilities or dependents can receive food stamps, unless they meet work requirements. States can apply for limit waivers due to tough economic conditions. Counties with unemployment rates as low as 2.5% have been included in waived areas. (Additional reporting by Tom Polansek in Chicago; Editing by David Gregorio)

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

We are soooooooo lucky to have Trump as a leader.  I feel like I'm in North Korea.  Unless one is the Supreme Leader, everyone else can pretty much fuck off.  He went on a rant earlier about how vulnerable the elderly are to the virus...perhaps it's their time?  WTF.  

MAKE AMERICA TRUMPLESS AGAIN!! 

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    3 weeks ago
He went on a rant earlier about how vulnerable the elderly are to the virus...perhaps it's their time?  WTF.  

What!!!! JHC do you have a link for that. That is fricking unbelievable.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Not exact words, but certainly implied in a presser from earlier today.  Let me find it.  Trust me, I wanted to kick his balls all the way to the State of Jefferson.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Check your email in a bit.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

ok

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

I just read where Trump said that the Dems 2nd survival funds were dead on arrival. What the hell does he care. He and his sperms have plenty of money so they don't need to worry about buying food for their family to live. That's what streets are for. Right?!!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.6  Raven Wing  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.5    3 weeks ago
Dems 2nd survival funds were dead on arrival.

That should read Dems 2nd Stimulus funds were dead on arrival.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.7  MUVA  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

It should be,passing out money was a bad idea to being with. Giving  people money that are already receiving a government pension,SS, welfare also city and state workers who's income was not interrupted. Why pay people that have not been impacted this democrat boondoggle should never see the light of day.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

I hope you are never in dire straits where you lost your ability to work because of an illness or injury.

I'm seeing a side of you these days that I never thought I would ever see.

 
 
 
squiggy
2.1.9  squiggy  replied to  Kavika @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
JHC do you have a link for that.

No, because it's fake.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
2.1.10  Drakkonis  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago
I feel like I'm in North Korea.

Then I have to think you have little understanding of North Korea or maybe you're thinking of some other country. If this place was anything like North Korea you'd either be dead or in a prison camp a loooong time ago. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.11  Ronin2  replied to  Drakkonis @2.1.10    2 weeks ago
prison camp

Now, now, we all know those are "reeducation camps". You have to use the correct terminology or the left will lose their collective minds.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.12  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

What are you talking about because I'm talking about people receiving money that haven't had a disruption of income.I'm all for helping people that have been laid off working poor or anyone that had a disruption of income like small businesses not handing money out to everyone even if their income hasn't been disrupted.

 
 
 
bbl-1
3  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

Food prices rising?  Does not matter.  The poor and middle class will carry this burden as they always have.  The upper income tiers---they will be just fine.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1  Raven Wing  replied to  bbl-1 @3    3 weeks ago

Yep...food prices are as high, if not higher, than they have been in 50 years. That does not surprise me in the least. I just thought it would have happened weeks ago.

As usual, the poor and middle class with be the ones who will be the hardest hit by the increases of the staples families will need, and those needs will either be rationed or out of stock. Again. Except on line. 

I found a good many things I needed on line that were out of stock in most of the stores, and unknown when, or if, they would be in stock. 

And that must be why Trump wants to nix the 2nd stimulus funds, so that the poor and middle class and their families will have a harder time trying to survive the virus. 

Yeah....Trump is all heart. Just for his big donors and rich cronies.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1    2 weeks ago

What he and his rich cronies forget is that the middle and lower classes are the ones who work their factories, serve their food, care for them when they are sick, etc

Basically the backbone of America. When he and the rich elite have manged to starve and kill the middle and lower classes, they will be the ones that will suffer. Is it possible that these people know nothing of the French or Russian revolutions?

 
 
 
Drakkonis
3.1.2  Drakkonis  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1    2 weeks ago
And that must be why Trump wants to nix the 2nd stimulus funds, so that the poor and middle class and their families will have a harder time trying to survive the virus.

What would be his reason for wanting that?

 
 
 
Drakkonis
3.1.3  Drakkonis  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
What he and his rich cronies forget is that the middle and lower classes are the ones who work their factories, serve their food, care for them when they are sick, etc

Oh, for goodness sakes! What kind of world do you live in, anyway? One were there are no rich people? There will always be the rich and the poor. Get used to it already. 

The vast majority of the poor in this country live better than most of the people on the planet. Why do we all have to aspire to the lifestyle of the rich and famous? The biggest problem with us Americans is that we are sold the lie that we have to have whatever we desire. Nope. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
3.1.4  bbl-1  replied to  Drakkonis @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Because Trump despises those people.  Never in a million years would he allow any of them on his property.  He wants their votes.  Trump's 'cootie syndrome' is real.

 
 
 
The People's Fish, Still "Hand Of The Queen"
4  The People's Fish, Still "Hand Of The Queen"    3 weeks ago

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Thomas
5  Thomas    3 weeks ago

I just want to know why they have a full selection of one pound packages of hamburger, stacked right up, and none of the family size packages?? and a sign right next to them says "Take only two)... I thouight I wasn't supposed to be grocery shopping often?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
5.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Thomas @5    3 weeks ago

It gives people a taste of what it would be like if Bernie was president. No longer can you have what you want only what the central planners will allow one to have. 

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.1  MUVA  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.1    2 weeks ago

Yep and keep printing money and you will have to bring a truck full of money to buy a loaf of bread.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  MUVA @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Keep Trump in office and you won't have a truck or bread.

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.3  MUVA  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

If some democrat gets elected I'll have a shit country.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
Keep Trump in office and you won't have a truck or bread.

Put Biden in office and we won't have a country.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
Keep Trump in office and you won't have a truck or bread.

Put Biden in Office, and someone else will have to run the country. Joe needs …… "Handlers/Aides" to function. jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Right on cue.... The main Trump-Fuffers of NewsTalkers all sound off.

Ignore that Trump could give a shit if any of you live or die, as long as you keep supporting him to be king.  By all means, keep supporting the Narcissist-in-Chief that drags you and the rest of the country on a non-science based trek that even your minimal exposure to high school biology and statistical math tells you is wrong.

Deny science on your own.... but leave the rest of us to put the country back together.  Maybe you can help with the body bags. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

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It Is ME
5.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.6    2 weeks ago
Ignore that Trump could give a shit if any of you live or die

How many "Trillions of dollars of "Relief" did he approve ?

What an ASS he is....huh !

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

Fuffers? Did you mean Fluffers? Not that I care, I find it funny.

What the trmp fuffers/fluffers don't realize is that once they've kicked the bucket from The Rona or starved to death because they don't have a wheelbarrow of Franklins to take to the store for a loaf of bread, trmp and his buddies will look down from their Ivory Towers and wonder who is going to serve them their McDonalds, KFC, and Diet Cokes. He may start to care when he doesn't have a servant anymore. Then they will start to eat each other

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.9    2 weeks ago
trmp and his buddies will look down from their Ivory Towers

Don't you mean Pelosi and her skankettes with their high priced ice-cream stashed in their $10,000 freezers from their Californication mansions?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
skankettes

funny how you get your panties in a wad whenever a liberal calls a conservative woman a whore, tramp, slut, or skank

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.11    2 weeks ago
unny how you get your panties in a wad whenever a liberal calls a conservative woman a whore, tramp, slut, or skank

Sorry, but YOU wear panties.   I wear underwear and they don't get in a wad nor do I get butt floss wedgies like some 'ladies' actually think is flattering.  

What I found interesting is that you didn't defend her highness Pelosi.  One must surmise from that omission that you in your heart agree.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.12    2 weeks ago

somewhere in all that word salad mess is the answer to the question I asked

but you know what....nevermind

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.14  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.13    2 weeks ago
somewhere in all that word salad mess is the answer to the question I asked

Grammar TG, grammar.

NOWHERE in that missive you posted was a QUESTION.  YOU TG made a statement.

Would you care to try again, properly this time?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.14    2 weeks ago

OK...the statement I made! Better?

Will you admit that you have a problem with liberals calling conservative women skanks?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.16  FLYNAVY1  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

And all that congressional passed funding will be wasted unless we start following the best scientific and economic minds of the times to get us through this pandemic.  

Leave the politics behind, and follow the science.  Can you do that for once in your life? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    2 weeks ago

I guess not

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.18  It Is ME  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.16    2 weeks ago
unless we start following the best scientific and economic minds of the times to get us through this pandemic.  

They've Contradicted themselves and given us Doomsday Predictions throughout the entire process.

Did you Know that Dr. Fauci told us that we had nothing to worry about in January, a few times ?

Did you know the "Experts" told us wearing a mask did nothing, then went on to tell us,  "Just wear one" ?

Did you know that there is a "Whistle Blower" out their saying he was fired for saying the same thing the "Experts" on the Trump Team have been saying since day one, then wones about it in front of congress?

Did you know people can have disagreements on what to do about this ?

Did you know that we should have been prepared for the "Unknown", by having a vaccine ready and waiting for this day ?

Did you know that we didn't need as many Respirators as the "Experts" said was needed to fight this pandemic ?

Did you know that "Medial Care" wasn't as Overwhelmed as we were told they would be ?

Did you know that the "Experts" still don't have the "Best" answer to this virus ?

Did you know that the "Experts" are lumping the entire country into a "Hot Spot", even when most parts of the country aren't ?

Did you know that folks are going Broke, while the "Experts" are still getting paid trying to figure out "What to Do", yet telling us not to come out of our bomb shelters until they do ?

Did you know …….. ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.16    2 weeks ago
And all that congressional passed funding will be wasted unless we start following the best scientific and economic minds of the times to get us through this pandemic.

We're doing just that.  It's just that YOU don't like the people or recommendations being made.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.18    2 weeks ago

How are you going to prepare a vaccine for an unknown infectious agent?

If you have an answer to that, your King wants an audience with you, ASAP

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.21  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.20    2 weeks ago
How are you going to prepare a vaccine for an unknown infectious agent?

Exactly !

Or anything else we coulda got together and horded for an unknown too.....right ?

But the Trump administration shoulda been ready back in January (Media bitches to us so). 

The "Experts" also told us.....Not to Worry ?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.22  FLYNAVY1  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.18    2 weeks ago

How about you post sources from Reuters or the BBC to back up all of your Fox noise statements....

Otherwise you're just pushing more of the same non-science based drivel.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.23  It Is ME  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.22    2 weeks ago
How about you post sources from Reuters or the BBC to back up all of your Fox noise statements....

You don't know ?

It's been in/on every Media Venue available.

Do you always have "FOX" on your mind ?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

NOBODY SAID THAT!

What everyone wanted was for trmp to take this thing seriously. I personally thought banning all travel from China was a good start. Problem is, he didn't really ban people, they still came into this country. He should have put a halt on ALL travel outside of our borders. Nobody coming in and if you go out, you're not coming back for awhile.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.25  FLYNAVY1  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.19    2 weeks ago

Of course I don't like the politicians that are lying to us.  Follow them if you like, just don't expect the rest of us to put our lives on the lines for those well documented liars that refuse to follow the data based science.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.26  XDm9mm  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.22    2 weeks ago
How about you post sources from Reuters or the BBC to back up all of your Fox noise statements....

How about this as an alternative?

Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands

Source:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/
 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.27  XDm9mm  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.25    2 weeks ago
Of course I don't like the politicians that are lying to us.

Simply hysterical.    See the "EXPERTS" at post 5.1.26 above.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.28  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.24    2 weeks ago
NOBODY SAID THAT!

Which Part ?

THIS:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/

Or THIS:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-face-masks-not-entirely-effective-2020-1

Then THIS:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824560471/should-we-all-be-wearing-masks-in-public-health-experts-revisit-the-question

I've got bunches more....but you get the gist on TRUTH.....I Hope ! ! 

"I personally thought banning all travel from China was a good start."

Me too....but not strong enough about everywhere else coming in.

The Democrat running for President thoughts about it :

Biden tweeted: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.....

Biden March 12 press conference : "The United States should not be overly dismissive of the outbreak, “but neither should we panic or fall back on xenophobia, labeling COVID-19 a foreign virus does not displace accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration.”

It's a good thing Joe wasn't president. He might be sipping wine in China telling them they have a "Beautiful Agreement with each other" !

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.29  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.24    2 weeks ago
He should have put a halt on ALL travel outside of our borders. Nobody coming in and if you go out, you're not coming back for awhile.

Ban AMERICAN CITIZENS from returning home?  Are you fucking serious?  Or is a little dictator whispering in your ear?  That's something that to the best of my knowledge only happens in COMMUNIST CHINA or maybe North Korea.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.28    2 weeks ago

Everything you just posted has nothing to do with the conversation (and I use that term loosely) we were having.

I have decided you are nothing but a troll and I am not conversing with you any more. You are on ignore and if you continue to try and engage me I will ask for a no contact order from Perrie

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.29    2 weeks ago

Really? So the comforts of a few Americans are more important than the lives of thousands more?

So, yeah, I'm fucking serious. Tough times call for tough measures.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.32  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.30    2 weeks ago
Everything you just posted has nothing to do with the conversation

Surely it does. Read ALL the comments I responded to.

"I have decided you are nothing but a troll"

AGAIN ?

"You are on ignore"

AGAIN ?

"if you continue to try and engage me I will ask for a no contact order from Perrie"

AGAIN ?

What's the recourse if YOU engage me (Which I lovejrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg by the way jrSmiley_16_smiley_image.gif )?  Are you going to tell on yourself ? ?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.33  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.31    2 weeks ago
Really? So the comforts of a few Americans are more important than the lives of thousands more

If memory serves me, another President actually SENT people to another country specifically to bring back at least one individual that was KNOWN to be infected with a deadly virus.  Names will remain unwritten.

Oh, it's not the COMFORT of those 40,000 AMERICANS, it was their physical well being.

But, I'm not surprised you would feel that way.  The collective must survive.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.32    2 weeks ago

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Trout Giggles
5.1.35  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.33    2 weeks ago
Oh, it's not the COMFORT of those 40,000 AMERICANS, it was their physical well being.

Were those people sick with COVID?

But, I'm not surprised you would feel that way.  The collective must survive.

Stop with the communist innuendo, it's not appreciated. Aren't you one of the ones that wants the country re-opened so we can get all get back to work? Who's talking like the Collective now? How many will perish if the Collective gets their wish?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.36  XDm9mm  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.34    2 weeks ago

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It Is ME
5.1.37  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.34    2 weeks ago
What a tactic--put you on ignore when you are right!

TROLL IGNORE at that ! jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

That really Hurts ! jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1.38  FLYNAVY1  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.27    2 weeks ago

Simply hysterical.  [deleted]

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.39  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.35    2 weeks ago
Oh, it's not the COMFORT of those 40,000 AMERICANS, it was their physical well being.
Were those people sick with COVID?

I don't know.  Do you?   But many if not all were forced into self quarantine if memory serves me.

But, I'm not surprised you would feel that way.  The collective must survive.
Stop with the communist innuendo, it's not appreciated. Aren't you one of the ones that wants the country re-opened so we can get all get back to work? Who's talking like the Collective now? How many will perish if the Collective gets their wish?

What communist innuendo?  Yes I most certainly do want the country re-opened so we have a country with potential still remaining.   Personally, I'm not looking forward to a Sanders type of good government were bread lines prove the government works.

And while opening the country is very admirable, and hoped for, show me exactly where it is the law that you have to go to work as opposed to the multitudes of local and state governments that ARE forcing people to stay home.   

I'll wait.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.40  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.35    2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter TG.  In the warped world of some donald is always right and everyone else is at fault.

How they can stand to stare at the naked emperor is beyond me.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.41  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.26    2 weeks ago

In Feb, which is when that article is from, the WHO was still not forthcoming with information. The CDC was operating on what the WHO was saying, and using past pathogens like the flu. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.42  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.41    2 weeks ago
In Feb, which is when that article is from, the WHO was still not forthcoming with information. The CDC was operating on what the WHO was saying, and using past pathogens like the flu. 

And yet the lemmings of the left still blame Trump.

Whouuda thunk it?

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.43  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.41    2 weeks ago

So the WHO and CDC had it wrong?

Please let the but Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!! brigade know.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.44  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.20    2 weeks ago

We're leaving it to the trained professional to come up with a vaccine, not Trump.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.45  Trout Giggles  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.44    2 weeks ago

Good to know but you might want to read the entire exchange before you comment

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

If it's the rich who vote Republican, and the poor who vote Democrat, then I guess starving the poor to death is another method that Trump thought up to get reelected - just blaming China to deflect from his mismanagement wasn't enough.  O'Donnell needs to add an addendum to his Republican playbook.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    2 weeks ago

It's not Trump that is preventing these people from earning a living and being able to buy food. He's trying to get them back to work. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1    2 weeks ago

Actually, if Governors followed Trump's guidelines, NO state would be reopened. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

But even trmp isn't paying attention to his own guidelines

 
 
 
MUVA
6.2  MUVA  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    2 weeks ago

Haven't you heard democrats have magically all become successful since Trump took office. Just look at the comments on this site they are smarter and more informed and if you don't believe it that makes two of us.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    2 weeks ago
blaming China

Is the PROPER thing to do.

COMMUNIST CHINA has done NOTHING positive for the world.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @6.3    2 weeks ago

They made all those MAGA hats

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.3.1    2 weeks ago
They made all those MAGA hats

Not all, but even then, there are exceptions to every rule.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @6.3.2    2 weeks ago

Do you think that the benefits arising from these achievements will not be shared?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016latestscientficachievements/index.html

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3.4  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.3.3    2 weeks ago
Do you think that the benefits arising from these achievements will not be shared?

Are you speaking of the shit the COMMUNIST CHINESE steal from every other industrialized modern civilized society?  Those 'achievements'?

Oh and using the fucking mouthpiece propaganda arm of the Peoples Liberation (quite the contradiction in terms for the brutality they display to the people) Army as a viable source of information is akin to saying Mad Magazine is a well respected and valued scientific journal.

What's even more troublesome is that intelligent people believe the Communist masters of China.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.3.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @6.3.4    2 weeks ago

Are you happy these days, XD?  Guess what, I am, and so is everyone I know here.  Isn't that strange taking into consideration all the McCarthyism happening in America this last little while?

I wish you well, XD, and hope that you and yours weather the storm.   

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.3.5    2 weeks ago
Are you happy these days, XD?  Guess what, I am, and so is everyone I know here.  Isn't that strange taking into consideration all the McCarthyism happening in America this last little while?

I'm happy knowing that there are people in this and other countries finally calling out the COMMUNIST CHINESE for what they are.  Brutal dictators who through ignorance and arrogance unleashed a deadly virus on the world and then KNOWINGLY took that fuck up and used it as a tool to harm other nations and their people.  All the while trying to claim innocence and attempt to cast blame elsewhere.

FUCK the COMMUNIST PARTY of CHINA and that piece of shit used scumbag Xi Jinping and any and all that protect him.  

I wish you well, XD, and hope that you and yours weather the storm.   

Have no fear.  We and the civilized world will weather the storm.  Will China weather it when it and it's people are returned to the China of the 1950's when they can't sell their shit to ANYONE in the world?   I sincerely hope those finger locks and fireworks are tasty, it's about all they'll have.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.3.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @6.3.6    2 weeks ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif   Dream away, XD.   By following the O'Donnell playbook as your bible, you may as well be following the Yellow Brick Road.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.3.7    2 weeks ago
Dream away, XD. 

No dream.   The civilized world has finally awakened to the monstrosity that is called the China Communist Party.  They will consider the welfare of their own people first and foremost and the people of China will suffer the consequences of the actions of their rulers.

The really sad part is that it will be the people of China that will suffer.  The party members will still live the good life at the peoples expense.  

While your pension might be great now, when the food supplies start to dwindle, your pension won't be able to buy what isn't there.  Trade embargoes don't hurt the rulers, as you will likely find in the very near future.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.3.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @6.3.8    2 weeks ago

The people of China are not suffering.  Extreme poverty has been almost entirely eradicated, and poverty is in the process of being changed to being moderately prosperous. When people have a full stomach and a roof over their head, free high school education, entertainment and health care - bread and circuses.  The people are happy, and there will not be a revolution.  China does not have to rely on America to succeed.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.3.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.3.9    2 weeks ago

Do the Chinese people have freedom of expression?

Are views that are different from government's genuinely tolerated?

Do they have the freedom to practice their religion(s) without government restrictions?

Do they have the freedom to openly criticize and complain about their government?

The way you describe them, they appear to be a bunch of compliant sheep.

Why are some Web destinations prohibited?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.3.11  XDm9mm  replied to  Greg Jones @6.3.10    2 weeks ago
Do the Chinese people have freedom of expression?

Are views that are different from government's genuinely tolerated?

Do they have the freedom to practice their religion(s) without government restrictions?

Do they have the freedom to openly criticize and complain about their government?

The way you describe them, they appear to be a bunch of compliant sheep.

Why are some Web destinations prohibited?

Oh, oh, oh....   can I answer?  Can I?  Can I?

To the first four questions, a resounding NO.

To the fifth sentence, unfortunately, yes.  Not that they have much choice.  Agree or take your pick of "re-education camps" or simply die at the hands of the PLA.

To the last question, because they have complete control of what the people can say, do, or read.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.3.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @6.3.10    2 weeks ago

Different strokes for different folks.  Whoever said that democracy was perfect?  The Chinese people have become much better off than they were during the days of the Tank Man - poverty is being eradicated, and the people can see that China is becoming a moderately prosperous society.  They are enjoying their bread and circuses, so don't expect them to want to become a country with a constant political division and animosity for each other's politics. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7  XDm9mm    2 weeks ago
Due to the coronavirus pandemic, experts say grocery prices are higher than they have been in 50 years.

One must surmise the fucking morons that wrote this bullshit piece of garbage never heard of INFLATION.

Here's a hint shit for brains....   EVERYTHING is priced higher than they were 50 years ago.

For example:

Then:

These are some of the things you may have seen advertised Below and how much food and groceries cost in the 70's
Ajax Cleaner 15 cents California 1970
Alka Selzer 39 cents Ohio 1971
Apples 59 cents for 4 pounds California 1970
Baby Lotion $1.59 Illinois 1978
Bananas 12 cents per pound California 1970
Bathroom Tissue 13 cents California 1970
Birds Eye Cool whip 38 cents Ohio 1971
Boneless Hams $2.29 per pound Nebraska 1976
Campbells Tomato Soup 10 cents California 1970
cantaloupe 89 cents for 3 California 1970
Celery 38 cents Ohio 1971
Clorox bleach 38 cents California 1970
Cranberries 29 cents per pound Ohio 1971
Crest Toothpaste 77 cents California 1970
Dogs Food $1.00 for 12 cans California 1970
Folgers Coffee $1.90 per pound Illinois 1978
Fresh Beef Liver 49 Cents per pound California 1970
Fresh Grapes 69 cents per pound Illinois 1978
Fresh Strawberries 29 cents per pound California 1970
Fresh Turkey 43 cents per pound Ohio 1971
Frozen french Fries 69 cents for 5 pounds Ohio 1971
Frozen Pumpkin Pies 79 cents Ohio 1971
Frozen Vegetables 25 cents for 2 pks California 1970
Frozen vegetables 29 cents per pound California 1970
Frozen Vegetables 79 cents Illinois 1978
Fruit Cocktail 20 cents per can Ohio 1971
Grape jelly 25 cents California 1970
Grapefruit 99 cents for 10 California 1970
Ground beef 98 cents per pound Illinois 1978
Ground Round 79 Cents per pound Missouri 1970
Head and Shoulder Shampoo 79 cents California 1970
Heinz ketchup 19 cents California 1970
Hellmanns Mayonnaise $1.39 Illinois 1978
Idaho Potatoes 98 cents for 10 pounds Ohio 1971

Now:

Our Price Basket  - or Cost Of Living ( Inflation ) 2008 - 2020
Price Basket Consist of the following January 2020 Prices
Bread (Sara Lee White Bread) - $ 2.08 - 

Potatoes (Russet) - 78¢ cents per LB - 

Milk Prairie Farms - $4.12 - 

Bacon (Hormel 16 oz) - $4.98 - 

Dozen Eggs (Walmart Brand Regular) - $1.58 - 

Coke (24 pack can) - $7.68 - 

Water (12 pk Ice Mountain) - $2.48 - 

Tomatoes (LB Roma) - 88¢ - 

Butter (15 oz Can't Believe It's Not Butter) - $2.98 - 

Cornflakes (18 oz) - $3.28 - 

Pizza (Jacks Pepperoni) - $2.50 - 

Sugar (4 LB) - $1.74 - 

Flour  (5 LB) - $1.22 - 

Ground Beef (LB Lean) - $5.24 - 

Tide Powder (5.93 LB) - $12.96 - 

Folgers Classic Roast  (Sizes - 1 LB 14.5 OZ) - $6.96 - 

Green Grapes (LB) - $1.48 - 

Toilet Paper Rolls (Scott 4 pk) - $3.82 - 

Chicken Soup  (Cream of Chicken Campbells 10.5 oz) - $1.48 - 

1 Gallon of Gas $2.38

SOURCE:  http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/70yearsofpricechange.html

 
 
 
It Is ME
8  It Is ME    2 weeks ago

"Grocery prices reach 50-year high amid pandemic "

Go to the fields where everything is getting dumped now. Bet you'll get a discount ! jrSmiley_41_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Nerm_L
9  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

Farmers are destroying food because they can't sell it.  And people are waiting hours in line to obtain food.

Capitalism is supposed to provide an efficient means for supplying demand.  There is plenty of demand.  There is plenty of production.  Yet, the needs of both consumers and producers are not being met.  How can the United States economy be capitalist when both consumers and producers suffer?

The statistic published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't provide useful information about capitalism.  The BLS data doesn't provide any hint of the problems being experienced by both consumers and producers.  The BLS publishes financial numbers which provides benefit to financial profiteers.

The only rational conclusion that can be drawn from the fact that farmers are destroying crops while people go hungry is that the financial sector has killed capitalism.  Banks aren't consumers and banks aren't producers.  Wall Street is neither a consumer or a producer.  Yet our Federal policy has been to protect banks and Wall Street.  Consumers and producers aren't being protected by Federal policy.

It has become self evident that the United States is no longer a capitalist economy.  The flaws with our current economic model have become insurmountable obstacles.  So, we can either choose to revitalize capitalism or we can choose another means of supplying demand, like socialism.  We cannot continue as we are; something has to change.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Nerm_L @9    2 weeks ago
Capitalism is supposed to provide an efficient means for supplying demand.  There is plenty of demand.  There is plenty of production.  Yet, the needs of both consumers and producers are not being met.  How can the United States economy be capitalist when both consumers and producers suffer?

Easy answer.  Politicians got in the way.  Some WORKERS have been declared "non-essential" by politicians (who I will submit are actually the non-essential people in this particular situation).

 
 
 
Nerm_L
9.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1    2 weeks ago
Easy answer.  Politicians got in the way.  Some WORKERS have been declared "non-essential" by politicians (who I will submit are actually the non-essential people in this particular situation).

What has become quite clear is that politicians only care about the money.  Money is the answer to every question and the solution for every problem.  Finance is only concerned with money and politicians only care about finance.

But consumers can't eat money.  And producers aren't allowed to manufacture money.  Money has become an insurmountable obstacle that impedes supplying demand.  We can't even bury our dead without money.

Capitalism isn't about money.  Capitalism is about producing what is needed.  In fact, money isn't a very good yardstick to measure how well capitalism is working to produce what is needed.  Finance has become an anchor holding back our economy.

 
 
 
Thomas
9.1.2  Thomas  replied to  Nerm_L @9.1.1    2 weeks ago

The problems that you describe are logistical in nature and have more to do with workers unable to transport, process or distribute the products to the consumers. Some had workarounds more readily apparent than others. 

  Money has become an insurmountable obstacle that impedes supplying demand.  We can't even bury our dead without money.

I would agree. 

Capitalism isn't about money.  Capitalism is about producing what is needed.

This statement, however, I would not consider to be accurate. Capitalism is all about money. We can have the whole of the supply chain in any case of whatever -ism you want to call the economy. Supply and demand still works in any case, and the supplying of the demand is what you are describing as the problem.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
9.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Thomas @9.1.2    2 weeks ago
The problems that you describe are logistical in nature and have more to do with workers unable to transport, process or distribute the products to the consumers. Some had workarounds more readily apparent than others. 

Which only serves to highlight that our economy is being held hostage by middlemen.  Middlemen are the gatekeepers between producers and consumers.  Consumers can't profiteer.  Producers can profiteer but that doesn't happen as often as we are told.  Middlemen are profiteers; that's the business model for middlemen.  Middlemen add costs and raise prices to obtain money from consumers. 

While logistics is a necessary added cost, most profiteering abuses are committed by middlemen.   

This statement, however, I would not consider to be accurate. Capitalism is all about money. We can have the whole of the supply chain in any case of whatever -ism you want to call the economy. Supply and demand still works in any case, and the supplying of the demand is what you are describing as the problem.

Capitalism, as the name implies, is about capital.  Capital includes labor, raw materials, machines, factories, and infrastructure to either produce goods or deliver services.  

Economic wealth is created by combining labor and natural resources to produce something of greater value to consumers.  Labor and natural resources are the means of production.  The distinguishing characteristic of capitalism is that labor and natural resources are owned by private individuals.  Money buys capital but is not capital.  Money is not a means of production.

Money is a means of consumption.  Money allows consuming labor, natural resources, and what is produced.  Money is the tool of middlemen.  Middlemen do not produce or consume anything.  Middlemen do not create wealth; middlemen capture money by taking a share as goods and services move between producers and consumers.  Middlemen cause inflation without adding value; middlemen are a cost that devalues wealth.  Middlemen introduce inefficiencies that can harm both producers and consumers.

Capitalism is not about money; capitalism is about capital that is owned by private individuals.

 
 
 
Thomas
9.1.4  Thomas  replied to  Nerm_L @9.1.3    2 weeks ago

You said:

The only rational conclusion that can be drawn from the fact that farmers are destroying crops while people go hungry is that the financial sector has killed capitalism.

I am sorry, but that seems a totally logistical argument non-sequitur-ed into an economic statement. I don't think that the banks are getting in the way of the producers, in this instance. It might just be your choice of analogy. 

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that capital is more the goods and services and money is a sidebar, running alongside that and drawing the profits. Is that correct?  

 
 
 
Krishna
9.2  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @9    2 weeks ago
Yet our Federal policy has been to protect banks and Wall Street.

Well that's typical of the people running the government-- The Democrats!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
10  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

As a shopper. I can verify that groceries aren't all that much more expensive now than a few months ago.

 
 
 
Krishna
10.1  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @10    2 weeks ago
As a shopper. I can verify that groceries aren't all that much more expensive now than a few months ago.

As another shopper, I can verify that they are higher.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @10.1    2 weeks ago
As another shopper, I can verify that they are higher.

I'll agree, but note that while some are higher, I've also found some lower.   It's called supply and demand.  

Having said that, on average, there is no appreciable difference between now and pre-ChinaVirus pandemic.

 
 
 
Krishna
10.1.2  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.1    2 weeks ago

My experience is that there is a significant difference. Prices are significantly higher! 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @10.1.2    2 weeks ago
My experience is that there is a significant difference. Prices are significantly higher! 

You must live where there are some operations gouging the people and taking advantage of the situation.   

My sister in law in FL has noted that other than the original hoarding and gouging, she has not seen any appreciable difference in prices either.  Of course, some items have been difficult to find, hand sanitizer for example, but that's primarily due to manufacturers having directed those types of things to hard hit areas, hospitals and first responders.

 
 
 
Dulay
10.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Krishna @10.1.2    2 weeks ago

My butcher practically cried when I asked him about the $5.99 lb. price tag on ground chuck. I buy in bulk and usually pay about $3 lb.. They are a family owned and operated butcher/grocer who have been in this community for 3 generations. I took the hit because I know he is giving me the best price he can and his meat is the best quality in town. 

 
 
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