The Working class vs the elite
He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, the son of a Prime Minister and currently Canada's 23rd Prime Minister. He uses phrases like "racist" and "white supremacist" to characterize those who dare disagree. He says they have unacceptable views. He looks and talks like what was once called deleted [ph] He is Justin Trudeau and he does not need to worry about the Constitution. His political future may be at stake, even in a country far left of the United States. His big problem is a simple protest.
Remember when protests were always a positive thing? It was that sacred right we constantly heard about. That was when protests were the vehicle of the left. What has changed is that the left is no longer on the outside looking in. Now the progressive elite has found a way to becoming the ruling class, not only in Canada but in the US as well. The winds of protest now blow from a different direction and suddenly protests are not always democratic. The Trucker's protest in Canada is one of these. It is the dissent of the working class and the Prime Minister says he will do whatever is necessary to bring it under control.
The mayor of Ottawa has called for a crackdown and it seems that it is on the way. The same government that readily tolerated BLM protests, suddenly has drawn the line with working people. Here in the US we have seen parents stand up for their children only to have the DOJ threaten them. The parents are already seeing the rewards of their courageous stand. The winds of change have forced some democrat governors to defy Joe Biden and abandon mask mandates for schools. The class warfare now shifts to Canada.
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The Freedom Convoy began on 9 January in western Canada as truckers protested against a new rule that requires them to be vaccinated against Covid-19 to cross the US-Canada border. The demonstrations have now morphed to include anger at a raft of Covid-19 restrictions and at Trudeau's government generally.
What I don't understand is the fact that truckers, for the most part, spend a the majority of their time alone in the cab of their trucks and minimal time out of it while being loaded/unloaded. Yes they have to eat and refuel of course but I know a few who take food with them and very seldom eat at a restaurant.
So who are they going to expose beside themselves if they get the virus?
It does seem like they are self quarantined. They should have the same right to protest that a group like BLM had.
I don't think its infection as much as it is they are taking a stand against a government who, like we are seeing in the US, have resorted to mandates and rules to force obedience.
That would be a false statement except for local PUD drivers. Linehaul drivers eat in restaurants, it's kinda of difficult to pack a lunch when you're on a cross county run. They also sleep in hotels, use showers and bathrooms in public areas, such as truck stops. and
Take a trip on I 95 and see the truck stops and hotels that cater to truckers.
While that may be the case for some, it certainly isn't for all. The sleepers I have seen not only have TV's but also microwaves and are basically a house on wheels. I'll concede the showers and bathrooms for a large majority but the hotels.........not buying. I guess we have different types of acquaintances.
Whether you buy it or not doesn't change the fact that it is true. There are websites that list the hotels/motels that have truck parking and rates for truckers. Some right there in NC.
Ever hear of buying groceries? They also have fridges. FYI
Not all truckers use them. That is the point.
So what are you saying, Tess?
Not really you didn't believe that truckers used hotels/motels, I provided the proof they did and it had nothing to do many, some or none.
This pretentious nonsense you are perpetrating is so damn tiresome in its repetitiveness. Black Lives Matter is not protesting a pandemic, epidemic, or endemic virus. Moreover, the sad truth is BIGOTS like to pretend that Blacks have the same rights white bigots have. That is a lie straight out of hell. What is more: BIGOTS know it.
Yet here you are opining about some equality for BLM protesting killing of oppressed people unnecessarily and with impunity and people who want open access to carry on in unsafe and unhealthy ways in the face of a pandemic!
Scraping the bottom of the barrel is not to low to go I gather.
Oh yes, you did. I'm going to file it in the Temple of Rao.
I know some do FFS. You made it sound like it is a prerequisite for long haul drivers. Read your comment again.
Oh, I see.. In other words the cause of BLM is noble. The cause of truck drivers is not?
I simply stated the facts, if you don't like them that's on you.
Which would require going into grocery stores and interacting with the public and staff.
So they go into a store and contract the virus. That is their problem. There is no need for them to get the vaccine mandated. They can still get and spread the virus as has been evidenced lately.
I would say you are partially right , with line or pick up and delivery drivers they normally are home in their own beds at the end of shift .
a line driver that isnt , like say a walmart or some other driver will have a tractor with a sleeper , if they wish to use a hotel/motel , that will come out of their own pocket without compensation usually . about the only time there would be compensation is if the tractor broke down or was not equipped for overnight stay.
a PUD ( local ,UPS< FED EX NPT) doesn't have to worry about that because they are home . .
and it is true OTR has the choices but usually it is a matter of whose pocket it will come out of for the sleeping arrangements .
wont argue that they dont use the cafes or restrooms , or even the showers , because they do .
there are many aspects of being a driver , and specifically what type of driver , a lot of people dont understand or even know about ,to them the people are drivers and it is not any of their concern as long as what they haul is delivered .
it is also a matter of economics, they can pay to stay in a hotel or motel while on the road or stay in their sleeper for nothing . Question is which is normally chosen .
for me when i drove OTR , i stayed in the sleeper and had it stocked with what food i would need , i could make what i wanted , during my mandatory breaks and just get back on the road when done . i definitely never stayed in a rented room when i had one i could stay in what i had for free.
Thank you!
What 'cause' is that?
I guess when you're totally ignorant of the subject matter that's what you do to hide your lack of knowledge.
I will ask you directly: What does protests of lives lost to 'street justice' have to do with protests of freedom to vaccine or mask-up? It is an insult to me and others when you use a pretext to engage in discussion, and pretend to not see any distinction between fighting for an end to unjust and questionable deaths, and fighting for individual freedom from a state sanctioned health program. Noble causes does not even come into play at this point.
All protests are not equal!
Mark, I'm well versed in all different types of trucks/truckers/systems etc.
My point from the beginning was that Jim's comment was not accurate and I've provided enough evidence to back that up in addition to my own personal experience with trucking.
Some drivers do use their sleepers and some don't especially those that are on cross country hauls after three or four days, they need a hotel room. I've provided evidence that there are hotels that cater to truckers.
You are correct that whose pocket does it come out of the I/O/O it comes out of their pocket except in exceptional circumstances. Our drivers used motels often on their cross country runs and many of our company trucks and drivers used them when they had a turn and we have arrangements with some motels for that reason.
well of course i know your familiar with the issue , thats why i stated your partially right .
but what you propose and what the company you worked for is not the norm even for company drivers ., though i would say it sounds like a BETTER company to work for than some i have .
just as jim is partially right about the situation as a whole , not all OTR drivers have those options available to them and they will do what is financially correct for them .
thats why i transitioned from OTR to construction , to PUD to strictly local ag., it let me decide what it was i wanted to do and was financially feasible for me .
That was Jim's comment re truckers using hotels/motels.
My response was this.
I never stated that all truckers use hotels/motels but that there are large numbers that do.
It is not just the company I worked for there are numerous drivers that use hotels for whatever reason. And yes we had a good company that was in tune with all of our employees no matter what their job spec was.
Again , that makes you both partially right , some do , some dont , it depends on the driver and the financial end of it of who is paying . and that is usually left to the driver to decide, especially if it comes out of their pocket .
If I had to guess i would say the majority dont use the option if they have to pay for it unless its in an extreme situation. I have seen it both ways .
Neither are the truck drivers.
The point here is the lunacy of complaining about truck drivers protesting while defending rioters who burn, loot and destroy.
No that is YOUR sub-text. Which is in furtherance of a pretext for having this interaction.
@1: The Freedom Convoy began on 9 January in western Canada as truckers protested against a new rule that requires them to be vaccinated against Covid-19 to cross the US-Canada border. The demonstrations have now morphed to include anger at a raft of Covid-19 restrictions and at Trudeau's government generally.
Moreover, Jack if you want to debate Black Lives Matter and keeping the organization off the streets (and out of your lives): Help. Support better police relations with the black citizens they interact with in our society. It is NOT SUFFICIENT for you and those of your political bent to just ignore the wails and complains of societal wrongs committed against a minority group simply because you fare better.
Who could they expose?
Are you assuming that none of them are married?
And that those who are single don't have girlfriends/boyfriends, friends or any living relatives they ever get together with?
Please post a link of the burning, looting and destruction by BLM protestors in Ottawa.
In leu of that, a link of a member of NT defending burning, looting and destruction, that is other than by the 1/6 rioters, who have been characterized here as political prisoners.
Do you understand the difference between protesting against a virus and protesting against a rule?
I want no such thing. I simply want rioters, looters, and arsonists arrested and imprisoned.
You don't get to decide what is sufficient for me, and you certainly don't have a clue in hell about my "political bent".
I ignore most wails and complaints, especially from people who think protesting still accomplishes anything. I also ignore protests.
Serious people don't protest. They sue. When black people get serious about solving "societal wrongs", the lawsuits will start flying and shit will start to happen.
That sums up the attitude of the left.
It was Quebec, actually.
Trudeau marched with them in Toronto a week later.
Deep-sixed. Just rhetoric, per se. When you have something helpful to discussion to aid, do write again, please.
So, you're saying that it was the people of Quebec who defended BLM rioters who burn, loot and destroy. I'm going to presume you mean Montreal since that is the ONLY place that had any 'unrest' [11 arrests out of thousands of participants] in Quebec but there was NO burning so maybe I'm wrong.
Now all you need is a link about the defending thingy and one about them complaining about truck drivers protesting in Ottawa.
No.
I don't need anything. With very little effort, you could read for yourself how the Canadian PM was very vocal about the rights of Canadians to protest, and supported and marched with BLM despite the riots in Quebec.
He's doing that traditional liberal thing no matter what has been set on fire, how much has been stolen, or how much of a Kristallnacht the whole thing turns out to be, a demonstration is "peaceful" or "mostly peaceful" (lol) if liberals are doing it and it's a violent hate crime if anybody else is doing it.
This plays very well with core liberals, who possess wonderful defense mechanisms that guard them against having to face their own inconsistencies.
Jack, there were NO 'riots' in Quebec. There was ONE protest with THOUSANDS of POC where some windows were broken and some shit was looted. Again, 11 were arrested. EVERY other protest in Quebec, over multiple days with thousands participating was peaceful. NOTHING was 'set on fire' and your sad hyperbolic attempt to equate what happened in Quebec to Kristallnacht is offensive.
Now let me address your moving the goal posts.
You are attempting to conflate supporting and marching with protestors with DEFENDING 'BLM rioters who burn, loot and destroy'. That is disingenuous at best, fallacious at worst.
Projection.
Jack, over our history protests have made major changes in the US. They have accomplished a hell of a lot.
When was the last time? 50 years ago?
Some of the greatest changes in American history were made by men with muskets. Nobody uses those anymore, either.
I would think that the civil rights protests changed America as did the Vietnam War Protests, the AIM NA civil rights protests, NODAPL, George Floyd etc etc
There are many more, some worked some didn't but they all made an impact.
I think we must keep in mind when discussing anything related to Covid: some of the more extreme MAGA-cultists are not aware of the fact that 1. Covod is real, and 2. It is contagious.
Yes-- believe it or not it can be spread between people.
(Which explains why some of their answers seems so...incredibly stupid!
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Where the hell have you been? Just ask any of the Jan 6th rioters if they are receiving equal justice to the BLM/Antifa rioters.
And what does BLM really stand for? Defunding the police? The right to loot, steal, assault, and murder and have the laws not apply? The right for their communist founders to make millions w/o paying taxes; even though they never filed the proper paper work to become a charity- and the address they listed is bogus? They also aren't sure who is in charge of the 60 million dollars they claim to have. Guess they have better standing under our new two tier just system than what leftists believe.
Yet here you are defending BLM and their ilk for doing things far worse than these truckers have. By the way, BLM ignored all of those Covid 19 restrictions that you are harping on these truckers about during their "not so peaceful" protests. Think Covid took time off because BLM's cause was "righteous" in the eyes of leftists? Think the pandemic that you are railing against cares whether it is BLM/Antifa or these truckers?
I am sure you can scrape lower if you work real hard.
Why should anyone give a fuck what they think?
One of the ways that the Capitol insurgents were treated differently is that they weren't rounded up and arrested en masse on Jan. 6th. Nor were any of them arrested and charged with violating curfew even though there is video of hundreds taunting police on Capitol grounds hours after curfew.
BTFW, the MO of posting links that refute your own posit is hilarious. EVERY one of the links you posted states that the reason that the vast majority of charges were dismissed is because there was NO evidence. You know that thingy that police need to find someone guilty of a crime.
Oh, and your own links state clearly that arson and assault WERE being prosecuted and that has held true in the time since your links were published over a year ago. Again, your own sources refute your claims.
"Why should anyone give a fuck what they think?
One of the ways that the Capitol insurgents were treated differently is that they weren't rounded up and arrested en masse on Jan. 6th. Nor were any of them arrested and charged with violating curfew even though there is video of hundreds taunting police on Capitol grounds hours after curfew.
BTFW, the MO of posting links that refute your own posit is hilarious. EVERY one of the links you posted states that the reason that the vast majority of charges were dismissed is because there was NO evidence. You know that thingy that police need to find someone guilty of a crime.
Oh, and your own links state clearly that arson and assault WERE being prosecuted and that has held true in the time since your links were published over a year ago. Again, your own sources refute your claims. "
They think no one will check out their links which refute their nonsense.
Yeah, you've got nothing. What those truckers are doing IS WHAT THOSE TRUCKERS ARE DOING. They will be dealt with in accordance with (or not in accordance with) the law they break or not break.
January 6th rioters? Not apart of the issue.
You can babble on about BLM and such all you want. No one should miss the obvious. NONE OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRUCKERS. Moreover, I am not defending BLM, because THE GROUP IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE TO DISCUSS.
Now since you 'went there' it is clear to me that some conservatives wish to cloak their bad conduct and criminal activity/ities with other people—especially their 'old' nemesis: Black Americans.
It won't work in here, however. Y'ALL INTEND TO DO YOUR 'DIRT,' MALICIOUS ACTIVITIES, AND FELONIES then 'man-up' and 'woman-up' and accept what consequences come your way!
The civil rights protests were 60 years ago.
George Floyd is no different from Rodney King or Arthur McDuffie. If people shouting at the sky over George Floyd made a difference, they wouldn't have needed to shout at the sky over Jacob Blake.
Clearly, I stated that some protests made an impact/change and some didn't but they all got attention. The latest protest is happening right now, the Freedom Convoy in Canada. What will the end result be, I don't know but it sure is gaining attention in Canada and the US.
Cheers.
"The latest protest is happening right now, the Freedom Convoy in Canada. What will the end result be, I don't know but it sure is gaining attention in Canada and the US."
That's not even a protest - it's an occupation.
Groups 'remarkably' can call themselves whatever they wish in this "country far left of the United States". You have been brainwashed if you believe this drop in the bucket of truckers has the massive support Laura Ingraham hysterically reports on.
You told us last week that it was basically nothing with very little support.
And I'm telling you again. FOX will drop this story by the end of the week. They need to keep their rabble focussed on the newest lint of the day and that is not the 'massive' .000001% of the Canadian population.
I have somebody up there - Ezra Levant. He says Trudeau rages against the truckers, but he gave a public apology and $10.5 million to an Al Qaeda terrorist named Omar Khadr. He also said Trudeau divided the country.
And you say?
I say Ezra is Canada's version of Steve Bannon.
Just a concerned citizen. He also pointed out that there was a similar blockade of India's capital 1 year ago which blocked critical highways for months and destroyed the livelihood of nearby businesses. It caused huge inconvenience to millions and we heard in the news that Justin Trudeau expressed support for those protests.
Well, there is also a liberal MP named Joel Lightbound, who announced his opposition to Justin Trudeau's mandates and denounced his divisive rhetoric about his opposition.
Is he another Bannon?
... as did Canadian farmers who are also 'concerned citizens'.
Just a concerned citizen...LMAO.
What a hypocrite he is!
Still googling?
Yes I am, you should try it and you wouldn't be posting nonsense.
I only post truth. I don't need to look for details to contradict.
LMAO, your version of it.
trump-like truth...
You should look up The Rebel favorite Tommy Robinson, he claimed the same shyte.
They have a lot more support than you’d ever be willing to admit that they have.
What I say is that based on the plethora of successful litigation against him for liable, he's your perfect source.
The articles I've read about this say that the rule was made AFTER the same rule was made by the USA for truckers going in the other direction. And, your complaint about Canada (Have you ever been to Canada?) would evoke laughter from most Canadians, since AT LEAST 90% of Canadians are vaccinated, and that includes at least 90% of truckers, and tht truckers' own organization, the Canadian Trucking Alliance has criticized the protesters and have DENOUNCED what they are doing.
"The Canadian Trucking Alliance, the main advocacy organization for the nation’s truckers, and the Ontario Trucking Association have disavowed the protest"
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Do you support those people, Vic?
There are three different flags there. I don't support Nazi's and I doubt the person carrying that flag is a Nazi. I recall one progressive carried such a flag to a "Tea Party" rally and the press smeared the Tea Party with it. I'm not surprised that Trudeau and the media are doing it again. Speaking of the Tea Party, there is what appears to be one of their flags there. I also question that one since, the "Freedom Convoy" has nothing to do with American taxpayers. Finally there are two F...Trudeau flags there. I think they are legitimate. That has become the rally cry of the Freedom Convoy. Now to answer your question: I support anyone's right to protest the same way the ACLU used to.
As far as the rest of your lengthy statement goes: I don't have to travel to Canada to know that there is class warfare there, just as there is here. If anyone is part of the ruling class it is Justin Trudeau. You also make a point that these truckers are part of an extreme minority. That may be true, but isn't that one of the things a protest is for? To express a minority view?
Finally you mention Canadian Law. It appears they think the law (created during a pandemic) is intolerable. That seems to be their complaint.
It's like I've been saying Buzz - that damned anti-vax trucker convoy - A FUCKING MENACE!
Thanks for the truth and facts on the matter!
I'm glad you posted that photo of the man carrying the Confederate Flag. The little-known back story is that the truckers themselves told him to leave. By the way, he was wearing a black-face mask to completely cover his face.
You believe the Washington Examiner?
Yes. I do not believe the Amazon Washington Bezos Post though
Yes........................
A link to The Washington Examiner?
WTF???
Believe their lies..and you'd believe anything!
You know the media won't cover that. Just like they didn't show the truckers cleaning up the statue of Terry Fox.
It's funny that the American left is so up in arms about truck drivers protesting in Canada but were down playing, and in some instances, supporting Burn Loot Murder riots here in the US.
The equivalent of believing CNN.
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Your 1.3.6 link to Twitter was also embedded in the Washington Examiner article. Thanks for posting it separately!
That's why I posted it. Some people don't open the actual seeded article link and really need to have someone hold their hand and prove that they may be mistaken.
So, you want the truckers to get a thumbs up for cleaning up the mess they made?
Interesting that I never saw anything here about communities coming together to clean up after protests last year.
Far better than the kick you want to give them for something that is a right.
What protests last year?
They have a right to be domestic terrorists? To squat and terrorize a town? To take away the ability of the citizens of Ottawa living their day to day lives?
You didn't seem to have a problem with it in Minneapolis.
Or how about when several blocks were cordoned off by dipshits in Seattle.
Your feelings don't mean a goddamn thing in a situation like this.
Don't forget about the 2020 riots/arson/looting that also occurred in NYC, Washington DC, Portland, San Fran, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc.
These truckers and soon to be ours are great heroes standing up for freedom, liberty, and the rights of we the people.
Especially since the truckers in a lot of cases brought their families with them to Ottawa and are engaged in a “G” rated family friendly protest. It was interesting watching them interact with Hannity through the reporter there last night.
And all that was for what? A criminal who died of a drug overdose. But stand up and protest to keep your job and your a "domestic terrorist" or "a menace".
The blithering idiot never talk about that. And on the rare occasions they do it's only to label them "domestic terrorist", "racists" or "a menace".
Exactly who are the Canadian truckers terrorizing? Thus far, the only Canadian I've seen who was terrorized was a 4'10" elderly man wearing pajama pants who was strong-armed and brought to his knees by 2 policemen who claimed to be just following orders.
ALL OF US are WE THE PEOPLE. You can not usurp the phrase as some kind of brand. Epic fail.
I had to laugh when I read that too. Terrorize? Sounds like the opinion of someone stuck on drama queen.
But you were OK with BLM idiots and racists blocking traffic on several bridges around the country.
Why are we not surprised of the hypocrisy.
Well, maybe some folks think that a children's bounce house is domestic terrorism?
That is bigotry on full display for all to read. George Floyd is throttled to death, and his killer is a law enforcement officer found guilty in a court of law and still you bad-mouth the dead. Black-hatred obsession. One might get the idea that only white conservatives matter (you do matter). It ain't all about white conservatives and their never-ending complaints about why they cant cope (with success)!
Well, to many weak minded liberals, bounce houses are scaaaaary.
If the bounce house is white, then it is a white supremacist bounce house.
Exactly what "bigotry"?
Original autopsy reports say differently.
So are BBQs and music! It's sedition, treason, and insurrection!
Notice that in other videos, CNN, MSNBC, Trudeau, et al never provide us with photos or videos of what they claim are many Nazi and Confederate flags .
His severe coronary artery disease and fentanyl use are also listed as causes of death. And, why bring George Floyd into a discussion about Canadian truckers protesting mandates?
He was killed by a scumbag cop.
All you all have is projection, deflection, and denial.
They're fucking morons without a cause, alt-right wing morons.
Everyone in Ottawa.
George Floyd was an American. I'm trying to stay on topic. You didn't answer the on topic question I asked you in comment 1.3.23 .
Because you know better. A jury of the officer's peers determined the officer murdered a man in a rank vivid display of street justice for which he sits in jail today. And like an 'archie bunker typecast' some conservatives are still judging and tapping to a 'rap sheet.' WHY? Because Floyd was a black man who (likely?) was not allowed to advance in the system due to its structural racial blockages, detours, and obstacles.
The irony: here we watch on full display some conservatives are forced to negotiate trying to speak against a black man by lifting up a found guilty officer in blue, and at the same time condemn an 'officer in blue' for eventually constraining a non-compliant and belligerent citizen who was evidentially way over the top!
See 1.3.37
Although I don't answer to you - I did answer your question.
They're alt right scum and they're terrorizing everyone in Ottawa.
So, these Canadian truckers are "terrorizing" approximately ONE MILLION people? Wow!
If you are distracted, then I understand.
Huh? How does your comment 1.3.42 relate to anything I've posted? Please stop whatever you're trying to do, CB ... NOW. Thank you in advance.
Ohhhhh I see the game. You altered your comment. Nice going, but I am not "distracted". Second time ... STOP.
Just leave it alone already, Jasper. What is not for you - may just not be for you. Apparently, you did not follow the 'bread-crumbs' back up the thread? Or is it "the game" that some conservatives are 'blind' to being critical of their teammates? No need to reply if it causes you 'discomfort.'
Still waiting on exactly what "bigotry" you are talking about. Or was that "bigotry" because I stated a fact like he was a criminal who died of a drug overdose?
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I would advise you not to worry about my feelings, Jeremy. Or what speech my ass is making at any given moment.
And, if you wish, feel free to ed-u-ma-cate me on who I am talking. . . . go ahead already "rightist."
Oh, you mean like reporters saying "mostly peaceful protests" while flames were engulfing cars and buildings behind them ... or Kamala Harris setting up a bail fund for BLM/Antifa arsonists, rapists, and looters during the 2020 "Summer of Love"?
This whole thing is a battle for control between the bicoastal secular progressive urban elites and freedom loving working and middle class coalition based primarily in the heartland. Freedom, rights, and liberty are dependent upon the deplorables winning this struggle.
The 'Freedom Convoy' are a fucking menace.
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The only one who gets to do that is Adam Schiff
It could have been resolved quickly but the coward Trudeau decided to go into hiding and conveniently was tested positive for Covid.
How so?
Instead of the coward Trudeau going into hiding he could have stayed and worked something out.
Worked what out?
I take it the 'news' you read did not mention that Justin and one of his children tested positive for Omygodicron.
I guess you didn't read my full comment and missed the part where I said conveniently was tested positive for Covid.
You can't THAT out of touch with what's going on.
That was your second piece of misinformation.
Well that's your opinion.
In 2012 Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau challenged Trudeau to a fight for charity. Brazeau was a black belt in karate. The fight was set for 3 rounds and Brazeau was a 3 to 1 betting favorite.
Trudeau ko'd him in the third round.
Yeah, I'm sure that the coward Trudeau went into hiding. LOL, big mouth Brazeau got knocked on his ass.
Yippie!!!! Give him a participation trophy.
I see we agree.
He went into hiding when he got COVID.
You should copy my complete comment instead of trying to make shit up...I suppose that you get a participation trophy for trying no matter how lame.
you should stop injecting irrelevant shit into the conversation.
Pot meet kettle.
You wrote this article Vic? Why did you gratuitously put the word fag in there?
Did it upset you? I do remember that term from long long ago. I think they put it onto what some might describe as un-masculine men.
Did you want to file a complaint?
According to Wikipedia fag is short for faggot which is an offensive term to describe homosexual men and boys. Justin Trudeau has a wife and three children. So what was your point Vic?
Ah yes, the slur just slipped into and slithered out your memory.
Back in the day it was also a term for a cigarette. FYI
I don't trust Wikipedia. Anyone gets to write there.
So what was your point Vic?
My point is some might think he is a little boy. You know how you call one person every nasty name in the book? That's were I got the idea. I wanted to be like you/
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Well, that's one definition. Brits also call a cigarette a fag. But I guess your Wikipedia overrides what others have to say doesn't it.
First of all, context matters, so no, Justin Trudeau is not a cigarette. Second, our TOS clearly says that derogatory terms are not allowed on the site and that is a derogatory term. From Websters:
fag
noun (4)Comments removed for meta.
it was a bigoted comment...
You mean like implying racism in every other comment? Yes all those comments were!
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They are so sensitive at certain times. No sensitivity for the drivers. It's all for Trudeau and whoever they thought I insulted.
got a copy of that schedule handy or was that just a typical example of a moronic comment?
they do it to themselves, I like to mock and ridicule the inevitable.
since you claim I talk about it regularly, please let everyone here know when I'll be doing it next.
sorry, nothing in those allegedly quoted comments above meet your hyperbole.
since I do it regularly, it shouldn't be too difficult to predict for someone that's always right
nope, not even close enough for a participation trophy...
Looks like you have a fan who tracks your every comment.
That from a guy who insists that each and every 'characterization' of his comments taunts him personally.
Why would Scooby go crazy for Scooby snacks? That's his nature. The words someone uses are a window into who they are as a human, their personality, their prejudices, their nature, it all comes out in the words they use to describe the world around them.
As is true with you as well. Ahhh...If only we could meet!
Of course. We're all defined by the words we use. For example I don't ever look at someone and think "fag!" let alone say it because I know that is a word of derision, disrespect and prejudice and that's not how I feel towards others who simply happen to be effeminate. They are not 'less than', they are not some inferior minority to be disrespected and laughed at. Those who do see others that are different than them and feel some need to ridicule and demean them for who they are with derogatory labels clearly show themselves as emotional Neanderthals incapable of feeling good about themselves without putting down others.
This is very different then calling right wing conservative extremists "deplorable" or other derogatory names.
When I call deplorables (racists, sexists, xenophobes, homophobes and Islamophobes) derogatory names I'm judging them by the content of their character. When a deplorable calls someone names who is effeminate, gay, transgender etc. they are judging them on the basis of who they are as a person, not the content of their character.
You've done a lot of name-calling.
You bet!
The words someone uses are a window into who they are as a human, their personality, their prejudices, their nature, it all comes out in the words they use to describe the world around them.”
probably not what I wished to hear, cause I really give a Fck about my words
So when they call half the country racist, we can pretty much assume that they are inhuman. I agree.
By that standard, Trudeau won.
No one called half the country racist. Hillary essentially called half of Trump supporters racist by saying they fit her 'deplorable' definition of being "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic". Are all Americans Trump supporters? Fuck no! The majority are NOT Trump supporters. That means she at best called about 20-25% of the country racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, which may actually be a bit under the reality.
If you are "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic" then you have self identified with being a "deplorable". If I said "Half the people who are fans of Brad Pitt like him because he's sexy and are turned on by him" would you automatically think I'm talking about you even if you are a Brad Pitt fan? Hopefully, only those who identify with that description would put themselves in that "half". So if you self identify as "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic" and thus a "deplorable" were you really just mad at Hillary for pointing it out?
What happened when Hillary made that comment was that more than half of Trump supporters self identified with at least one of those definitions, perhaps they're homophobic but don't consider themselves racist so they both identify with being a deplorable but reject the characterization at the same time. They're basically saying "What you say is true, but I'm offended that you would air my dirty laundry and point it out publicly!".
So racist = inhuman.
I disagree.
It would be better for some conservatives to talk trying to redirect the omission of words and get better adjusting attitudes which leave people to live their lives in peace with other citizens of differing CONDITIONS and STATES of consciousness. A 'pig' is greedy for the gains, rights and privileges, and belongings of another set of citizens, thus putting lipstick on that 'pig' is not going to change that it is what it is. A racist 'pig.'
BTW, this pretense of colorblindness while stealing rights from people of color and striving to refresh a second-class citizenry in the U.S.A. will fail. Racists see color and traits in people they put down everywhere.
Liberal MP Joël Lightbound calls out Justin Trudeau, saying that the "policies of my government changed drastically on the eve, and during, the last election campaign." Lightbound says that "a decision was made to wedge, to divide and to stigmatize.
Oh dear, I guess the honorable Lightbound will get the same treatment as Ms Cheney. BTW, Joël also said the truckers should scat.
How are they going to do that if the police prevent them from getting gas or food?
They have gas and food. How do you think they stay warm at night only venturing out to piss 'n shit in the streets?
It will eventually run out. And they are arresting people for bringing more fuel to them.
As if you didn't know that the police are prohibiting anyone from bringing them gas or food.
PS
Stay off the streets of Ottawa
Good news!
That's not working if this morning's intrepid cameramen/women are to be blieved.
" As if you didn't know that the police are prohibiting anyone from bringing them gas or food.
PS
Stay off the streets of Ottawa "
They're not
Thanks to the fucking menace that are calling themselves the 'Freedom Convoy'
After seeing liberal cities here in the US, I thought the left supported that kind of stuff.
And the vast majority of Canadians are vaccinated and agree with the mandates, and the majority of Canadians are working class and are disgusted with what the protesters have been doing, like desecrating the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, those who gave their lives so the protesters COULD protest. Even their own association denounced them. What would be the attitude of Americans if protesters carrying Nazi flags and wearing yellow stars were to desecrate American memorials for those who died to preserve their right to protest? The truckers who organized the protest are trash, Nazis, antisemites and troublemakers, and I can't believe that people intelligent enough to post comments on NT actually support them. I don't think they supported the BLM protests, so why this one?
78% of Canadians are fully vaccinated and 85% have at least one shot.
Additionally, I waiting to see the Canadian Government enforce the Critical Infrastructure Defense Act, which was introduced into the Alberta Legislature in February 2020.
We just had that. They carried BLM flags and tore down statues of all sorts of Americans. They surrounded and burned a police station with people in it. The mayors of those cities supported it. They were the elite. Most Americans (the muscular class) were horrified.
What do you call Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy and Ronna McDaniel if not your elite class who are shit-canning your fellow republicans because they do not agree with their decisions to pursuit justice and stand on principle that our government was improperly and unjustifiably attacked. Riddle me this: If the elites in the republican party are in agreement about a certain aspect of treating 'their own' and you consent with the conduct—what does it make or say about you?
And this pretense of being the 'muscular class' - can we get some of that between the ears already? These statements meant to diminish and divide or draw phony distinctions between people bound to the land together are gravely pathetic. That is, this shit needs a fast 'death'.
Both extremists sides: It is time to come together all F-ing ready!
Grow the heaven 'up' already! Most of us are too damn OLD and some of us are facing the proverbial one-foot in the grave and the other foot on a 'banana peel' scenario right now! Consider how we, you, wish to be remembered all ready!
you meant the -
yup
LMAO, and the muscular class is exactly what?
Were you a truck driver?
You don't know what you are talking about. You included Mitch McConnell in that group? Obviously you don't know his stand on Jan 6th.
And this pretense of being the 'muscular class' - can we get some of that between the ears already? These statements meant to diminish and divide or draw phony distinctions between people bound to the land together are gravely pathetic.
There is a class war going on in America.
No answer to my question, typical. Oh, and BTW yes I had my CDL with an endorsement for hazmat, doubles and tanks.
And what were you, Vic?
Actually I got you to answer your own question. You were part of the muscular class ie: the working class.
And what were you, Vic?
Various things.....Assistant Dairy Buyer (for a long time)...Owned a Limo service (for 14 years).....and a Gambler at heart through all of it..
The working class would include the vast majority of Americans maybe even you, Vic. Although I'm not sure that your work positions qualify for the muscular class I would think that would be more of tough physical jobs.
I think so too.
So most Americans are members of 'the muscular class' who preclude the elite. Based on your prior comments, the 'elite' translates to college educated. So that eliminates 92 million Americans.
Please provide some information of this 'muscular class' you insist 'most' Americans belong to. I'd love to review their website or their political platform or maybe just their work out program...
I know what Mitch McConnell just said about the January 6, 2021 INSURRECTION just a day ago reported in the news. Great. Words are great; action (assistance) is greater. Glad Mitch ended his senate political obfuscation, nevertheless.
There. And, I do know what I am writing about. And, so you ADMIT there is a republican/conservative ELITE class (because there is rather you agree or disagree). Oh, and DeSantis is an conservative elitist too! And there are many more!
A class war? Did that come out of another strategy meeting (at "conservative talking points central)? Here we go again. . . .
Oh, come on Vic.
Your 'muscular class' term isn't just about the working class. It's about a certain KIND of working class.
I found it hilarious that the person who is pushing the concept sits on his ass all day blogging and writing intellectually bankrupt bullshit.
When I saw him making a big deal about showing his 'guns' it cracked me up. My 85-year-old mother has bigger biceps and can throw 50 lb. bags of bird seed on her shoulder. Oh, and BTW, she worked in accounting and advertising for 50 years and still types 120 words a minute.
Guess you and Charlie will have to rethink the exclusivity of the 'muscular class'.
Trump? Where the hell have you been- the Democrats are trying to pin Jan 6th on him. Trump has spoken out against several prominent Republicans including Pence. So not sure what you are trying to say. As for what we call the rest of the Republicans- the word that comes to mind is "replaceable", "highly replaceable".
Sorry, the left made their bed; now they can lie in it.
Thank you. I needed that laugh desperately. They only way the two extremist sides will come together is in a blood bath. They have proven that repeatedly. Anyone dumb enough to try and stand in the middle of them to bridge the divide deserves what they get. We do have laws to take care of violent extremists; but they are only being applied to one side right now. Not a deterrent for the far left; but it is widening the divide and really pissing off the alt right.
You think posting on this website is really going to influence anyone? Most of come for a few laughs, getting fewer by the day; to follow some of our favorite posters- or read the inane comments from the other side; or just to let off steam because we can't yell at our boss.
HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 1/6/21. WHO ELSE SHOULD WE 'PIN IT ON'??????????????????????????????????????????????????
That's pathetically pathetic commentary.
I don't know, why not? You're here you might as well do some GOOD for a change, besides be a chaos-player. Just being tiresome might not be a good use of your 'day'?
Well, you better read this:
I have no idea if JTN is available in China, so I will respond for a fellow Canadian ... so what? Covid numbers are dropping and restrictions are following afoot; how bizarre! Canada's Covid numbers indicate that they have been far better at controlling the situation than her southern cousins.
"And the vast majority of Canadians are vaccinated and agree with the mandates, and the majority of Canadians are working class and are disgusted with what the protesters have been doing, like desecrating the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, those who gave their lives so the protesters COULD protest. Even their own association denounced them. What would be the attitude of Americans if protesters carrying Nazi flags and wearing yellow stars were to desecrate American memorials for those who died to preserve their right to protest? The truckers who organized the protest are trash, Nazis, antisemites and troublemakers, and I can't believe that people intelligent enough to post comments on NT actually support them. I don't think they supported the BLM protests, so why this one?"
WHITE TRASH, EVERY SINGLE ONE
We know exactly WHY THIS ONE Buzz.
The only ones who support this fucking menace, the 'freedom convoy' outside of NT are the alt-right
Not that it means much but those canadian drivers wont gain anything because both Canada and the US have a vax mandate for drivers crossing the border .
Canadas dropping of any mandates does not affect the US mandate to be vaxxed to cross the border . If they want to remain unvaxxed , they get denied entry at the border , simple as that , just like unvaxxed US drivers are denied entry into Canada .
And frankly i have no problem with that .
Nor do I. I can't understand why such a big deal is being made about this minority of truck drivers who feel they are free to spread disease among everyone else. It's even on the news in China, where EVERYBODY wants to comply with the guidelines for the good of everyone, intelligent enough to know it's the only way to contain the virus. .
Where EVERYBODY BETTER comply.
Not so, Vic. I've explained it over and over again so I'm beginning to think that ignoring that is tantamount to intentionally taunting me. If you have not ignored my many times explaining the different attitudes between the people in China and the people in America, why don't YOU post what I have been saying all along what the personality difference is? Most of my life was spent in Canada but I spent quite a lot of time in the USA, and now I've lived for more than 15 years in China, almost all of which married to a Chinese woman, so I think I'm qualified to be able to explain the difference. Can you? Because your comment indicates that you can't.
Were people in Wuhan nailed into their homes?
You may want to read this:
I've never been to Wuhan. I haven't seen any gates welded or doors blocked anywhere I've been. But I do know why there have only been around 700 cases and only 6 deaths in the municipality in which I live, and again, I've explained many times why I believe it. Since there are about 32 million people in Chongqing, if I multiply the number by 10 it would be approximately the population of the USA, would it not. So why does the USA have more than 7000 cases and 60 deaths? If you can explain that I'll try to explain your concerns.
You don't have to have been to Wuhan to read a news report. Either you believe the report or you don't.
I haven't seen any gates welded or doors blocked anywhere I've been.
I believe you, but where you were may not have been the hot spots over there.
So why does the USA have more than 7000 cases and 60 deaths?
That isn't really what we were discussing. That question should go to Dr Fauci and the CDC.
Let me just say, that I'm sure there are many happy & healthy and patriotic Chinese, but the regime they live under is not a tolerant democracy.
Those truck drivers simply think that it’s time for the pandemic emergency orders to end.
Look, Vic, I've posted before that they fucked up in Wuhan. When this whole thing started they silenced the whistleblower (and were disciplined for doing so) and obviously did some draconian things in ignorance and desperation, but those things were not considered necessary elsewhere, and were probably very limited in number, but the REALLY vast majority of Chinese people complied with the guidelines voluntarily. You might note that Xi'an is now pretty well back to normal with the virus contained. As for America, it's obtuse to put all the blame on Dr. Fauci and the CDC and is nothing more than denying the real reasons.
By the way, I really don't understand your purpose in having written the article herein, considering the real circumstances - I think you're backing the wrong horse. I'll bet you've realized it by now but feel you can't back out.
You mean people who feel the need to return to life not dominated by pandemic fear and government commands?
I think Trudeau may be the wrong horse, who made the wrong move at the wrong time.
Well, it kind of makes sense to me that the pandemic emergency orders will end when it appears that the pandemic ends.
They are beginning to end now. Many blue states are dropping them in defiance of what Biden wants. Even in Canada. On Tuesday Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe announced that the province’s vaccine passport, negative test requirement and mask mandate will be lifted by the end of the month. The Angus Reid Institute found that a majority of Canadians favored lifting restrictions, suggesting the Trudeau mandate, which went into effect on Jan. 15 was a mistake.
Emergency orders are coming to an end everywhere......at least where people get to vote.
I don't like Trudeau myself - what a contrast from his father, who I thought was the best PM Canada ever had during my lifetime, but I believe that to return to a normal life there are certain requirements that must be followed and refusing to do so will only prolong, maybe forever, the return to a normal life or at least a nearly normal one, and if that is what Trudeau is requiring then I believe he's doing the right thing. .
LOL, you didn't need to add that little bit at the end - the emergency orders end where people don't vote as well. As I said, I personally think that the pandemic has NOT ended, and that it can easily flare up again especially if it continues to be propagated by people who refuse to follow the guidelines. The reason people are sick and tired of the guidelines is because they're still needed because the people never followed them properly in the first place. That goes back to what I said originally about the intent of the people.
I don't think so either, but there is a new much weaker variant and with that many people have already decided to live with it and move on. The reason I added that little snippet, is because in a democracy politicians are sensitive to the will of the people, especially in an election year. Thus the end of heavy handed mandates.
well this minority of drivers in canada , have sparked a world wide protest of sorts , like it or not , of course there are some in the US planning a convoy to DC , i have read that greece has their own protest going , as do many in europe , even finland has one planned .
whats the old saying , from a little acorn a mighty oak grows , i inturpret it as a tiny little spark in tinder starts a fire , how far that fire goes , depends on the fuel available , and there seems to be some fuel for the fire .
By the alt-right - amplifying a non-existent problem.
I asked this on several articles at the end of 2021 and still don't believe anyone attempted to answer it:
Is this SARS-2 Covid virus and it mixed vaccine participation success/failure rate showcasing how we perpetuate (annual shots) a germ variant class?
For example, if we all get the appropriate set of vaccinations, may be we can end flu or covid instead of 'living with it.'
How's that working at the US Southern border?
we could wish , but the southern border has an entirely different us governmental policy than the shared border with Canada .
kinda like cuban refugees with wet foot dry foot.
Canadian authorities are threatening to bring criminal charges against those who bring food and fuel to so-called Freedom Convoy truckers protesting the nation's COVID-19 policies, which are generally harsher than in the U.S., by demonstrating with their trucks in downtown Ottawa, the capital.
justthenews.com/world/canada/whoa-canada-police-criminalize-food-fuel-donations-freedom-convoy-protest
Yeah. That kind of surprised me, but if the truckers are disobeying any laws or regulations then those who are bringing them food and fuel are aiding a abetting the offences.
Anyway, enough. It's after 10 pm, I'm tired and turning off the computer.
Have a good night
Thank you, I did. While going to sleep I was thinking about this, and what I decided is that in Canada, and it was my bad for bringing other countries into this since it's about Canada, is that there are two kinds of people involved in this controversy. There are those to whom it is more important to put an end to this pandemic and are willing to suffer minor inconveniences like getting vaccinated and wearing masks in order to end it, and they form the great majority of Canadians, and there are those who selfishly feel their personal comfort and convenience is more important notwithstanding the possibility of their being responsible for spreading the virus and maybe even killing others including people in their own families, than helping to bring an end to the pandemic, and thankfully, they are a small minority. Personally, I support those who want to end the pandemic, whereas by posting and supporting this article you support the minority.
Unfortunately, Buzz we have evidence now that lockdowns had little effect on the pandemic and cotton masks are pretty much useless.
I think most people are tired of lies and useless restrictions and it would seem that many blue state governors got the message.
Nope. You have a severely flawed cherry picked study that claims the lockdowns weren't worth the economic cost.
Even cotton masks are better than nothing. It's like saying "Well the only thing I have is this goat skin condom, but they are only like 60% effective in preventing pregnancy or STD transmission, we might as well just forget the condom because it's pretty much useless!". If you're really trying to not get your partner pregnant and don't want an STD sure, you could go with abstinence which would be 100% effective. The Covid equivalent is to quarantine 100%. But if that's just not possible and you're incapable of getting a proper mask that gives you much better protection, then perhaps wearing the cloth mask giving you at least some protection was worth it.
Yes, rational persons are tired of all the fucking useless liars spreading false conspiracy theories about vaccines, masks and responsible lockdowns. The truth: Vaccines don't shrink your balls, they aren't a way to control your mind, masks and vaccines are not 100% effective (which the CDC, science, Fauci and vaccine manufacturers have always admitted) but give far better protection than being unmasked and unvaccinated, lockdowns did help slow the spread of the virus and hospital Covid wards are mostly filled with the unvaccinated because they are far more likely to have severe symptoms and are at increased risk of dying if unvaccinated.
Thank you, DP, you beat me to it. I was preparing and eating my breakfast. Lockdowns aren't that useful when they are imposed too late, i.e. once the virus has already widely spread, and if they are ended too soon. Where I am they worked - one two week period and never needed again. As for masks, the N95 mask was ALWAYS suggested. Anyone with a brain could understand that a cloth mask can't possibly stop the spread of miniscule moisture droplets and in so many photos and videos I've seen people don' t cover their noses with them.
Politicians are whores, and will do whatever they think will get them reelected. No concern about what is necessary for the people, but what is necessary for them. My respect is for those politicians who put principle ahead of personal.
Yes. That is what we now know.
Even cotton masks are better than nothing. It's like saying "Well the only thing I have is this goat skin condom, but they are only like 60% effective in preventing pregnancy or STD transmission, we might as well just forget the condom because it's pretty much useless!". If you're really trying to not get your partner pregnant and don't want an STD sure, you could go with abstinence which would be 100% effective. The Covid equivalent is to quarantine 100%. But if that's just not possible and you're incapable of getting a proper mask that gives you much better protection, then perhaps wearing the cloth mask giving you at least some protection was worth it.
Unfortunately, the CDC never explained it that way, until recently. " The CDC's approach to the pandemic has been concerning, especially regarding its ability to offer reliable information to the public. The latest example of this trend occurs in a misleading infographic, which if taken at face value, conveys that wearing a cloth mask provides 56 percent more protection than no mask at all.
The CDC cites the results from its new study on masking, which states that “wearing a cloth mask (aOR = 0.44; 95 percent CI = 0.17–1.17) was associated with lower adjusted odds of a positive test compared with never wearing a face covering but was not statistically significant.” If one looks closely at the infographic, the hash symbol at the bottom indicates the results for cloth masks are “not statistically significant.”
Even though the CDC is technically honest in reporting this fact on the infographic, the situation still raises the question: if it admits in fine print that its infographic isn’t backed by reliable evidence, then why are they publishing it in the first place? Moreover, if the evidence suggests that wearing cloth masks has no statistically significant relationship with reducing the probability of testing positive, then why does the CDC continue to say we should use them?
Yes, rational persons are tired of all the fucking useless liars spreading false conspiracy theories about vaccines, masks and responsible lockdowns. The truth: Vaccines don't shrink your balls, they aren't a way to control your mind, masks and vaccines are not 100% effective (which the CDC, science, Fauci and vaccine manufacturers have always admitted) but give far better protection than being unmasked and unvaccinated, lockdowns did help slow the spread of the virus and hospital Covid wards are mostly filled with the unvaccinated because they are far more likely to have severe symptoms and are at increased risk of dying if unvaccinated.
The truth is that infection was as effective as getting the vaccine and it took the CDC 2 years to acknowledge it. The lockdown recommended by Dr Fauci, which was so devastating was unnecessary. Evidence from the countries that didn't lockdown:
The CDC wasn't just unprepared and wrong about many things, it got political:
"Power Grabs and Misinformation
According to its official mission , the CDC “serves as the national focus for developing and applying disease prevention and control, environmental health, and health promotion and health education activities designed to improve the health of the people of the United States.” Since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, there have been many cases in which the CDC stepped outside its mission.
We must not forget the eviction moratorium . On September 4th, 2020, the CDC, citing the need to control Covid, stopped landlords from evicting tenants. The data backing this argument was shoddy , and the moratorium was later deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
In addition to controlling landlords, the CDC also ignores research that opposes its position on the robustness of natural immunity. According to famed Johns Hopkins researcher Marty Makary, the results of the latest data on reinfection rates demonstrated that “natural immunity was 2.8 times as effective in preventing hospitalization and 3.3 to 4.7 times as effective in preventing Covid infection compared with vaccination.”
Yet, the CDC spun the truth when reporting on this study. They claimed “vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death,” based on a comparison between hybrid immunity (combination of prior infection and vaccination) with natural immunity. They did not clarify what the study’s results actually show: that vaccination does not significantly reduce the risk of hospitalization for those with natural immunity.
But why would they? These findings directly dispute the position held by the CDC and the Biden administration. The current CDC Director Rochelle Walensky will not budge on her position either. In October of 2020, she signed the John Snow Memorandum , which still states “there is no evidence for lasting protective immunity to SARS-CoV-2 following natural infection.”
The Game Is Up
The American people can sense the lies. Their trust in the CDC is falling . Its lack of transparency damages public health in the long run, hindering its ability to provide effective messaging during future health emergencies.
If they want the trust of the American people, they have to work harder to regain it. Unfortunately, the CDC is beholden to special interest groups , which leads it to renege on its mission of providing accurate public health recommendations. The CDC faces incentives that prompt it to follow the concentrated interests of special interest groups at the cost of providing reliable information to the public.
The CDC’s actions have completely bewildered the American people. If it continues down this road, it will only erode what little credibility it has left."
I'm with you all the way on that!
Enjoy the breakfast. See you in another 8 hours.
The fact that you stated that you would vote for Trump again refutes that claim.
In 8 hours? Why? Are you going somewhere?
You know I can't sit by the computer all night.
Alberta lifting COVID-19 restrictions, ending vaccine passport program
Even ordering cops to assault and arrest a 4'10" great-grandfather when he beeped his horn.
You believe the NY Post?
Mr. Trudeau would not order the police to assault ANYONE.
Watch it since you won't open the link provided.
This is ridiculous. "Blow by blow" ridiculousness. Elderly men have to shut the heaven up and keep calm and COMPLY too!
Perhaps you missed this part of my comment 9 ?
Where the fuck does it say that he ordered for a police officer to assault ANYONE??????????????
The Prime Minister cannot order the Ottawa Police to do squat.
Perhaps, but Trudeau is a very powerful man and can get someone else to do the job for him. Then, a compliant judge issues said injunction order. By the way, the judge's injunction order specified truckers ... not all Canadian citizens. Therefore, it seems that the 2 police officers weren't following orders when they attacked and arrested the elderly man.
He's not, Prime Minsters are not directly elected to the office, only to a riding and can be turfed at any time.
By a judge in the Ontario Supreme Court which is under purview of the Provincial Gov.
That asshole should have been arrested for obstruction.
There are municipal by-laws about unnecessary noise. Doesn't your municipality have them?
After 10:00 at night yes
Who is the asshole filming? Who is the asshole obstructing the police officer? How is the police officer harassing the old man? How is the he assaulting the old man? Wasn't the old man resisting arrest? Why didn't the old man just comply?
Can't wait to see how you answer yourself too.
What really would have been unfunny, but at the same time 'textbook': When the 'mature' man got out of his truck rather belligerently - cussing and agitated, moving to open his truck's 'gate' with his back fully turned to the officer - the officer should have assumed the worst and pulled his weapon on the 'old man.'
Because we all know some conservatives officers in law enforcement would assume the worse of a black American reaching into a car . . . .
You can stop communicating with me any time you wish. I share what I want and what needs to be shared. Perhaps it will prick those 'stony' consciences of some conservatives - God only knows.
Then continue to read and opine away. If it is good I will say so. If it is 'twisted' - the same. If it is trash-talk - deep six and nothing more.
The truckers were blasting their loud horns (and big trucks have VERY loud horns) all night long, and maybe Ottawa has a 24 hour unnecessary noise bylaw anyway. I believe Toronto does, so I wouldn't be surprised if Ottawa does as well.
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While I am loathe to agree with anything any politician says I have to agree with the above
Right on. Freedom still has its necessary limitations, and those limitations vary from nation to nation. A fact not recognized or agreed to by those who think that only THEY are "exceptional".
For the last 2 years that is exactly what the government has done. They've shut down the economy and prevented people from lining their day to day lives. Not just in Canada. It happened all over the world. Now people are tired of it and are standing up against that.
So the solution for that is for truckers to shut down Ottawa AND bridges into the US [the economy], while keeping an entire neighborhood hostage and awake for days.
Ya, that's the ticket Jeremy.
Oh and BTFW, if the economy WAS actually shut down, the truckers wouldn't have any leverage since they'd be shut down too.
"So the solution for that is for truckers to shut down Ottawa AND bridges into the US [the economy], while keeping an entire neighborhood hostage and awake for days.
Ya, that's the ticket Jeremy.
Oh and BTFW, if the economy WAS actually shut down, the truckers wouldn't have any leverage since they'd be shut down too."
They're a bunch of alt-right domestic terrorists who are preventing the people of Ottawa from living their day to day lives. They're squatting there, immobilizing the whole town, terrorizing the residents.
Like I said - alt-right scum, a fucking menace.
Did I say that was the solution? No. Try to keep up.
Closer to the coward left wing pecker running the country.
What's the solution?????????????????
The left wing coward running the country come out of hiding and work on the solution.
It only took him about a month to finally come out of hiding at his "undisclosed location".
You're so right Jeremy. You just said they were tired of 'it' and standing up to 'it' while doing 'it'.
To stay on my point I still think the protesters should be respectful of others while making their point as not doing so isn't going to gain them supporters which is what they need if they want change to occur
Compared to the "protests" the US saw in the past few years, they are respectful of others while making their point. And they have gained support from not only within their own country but from around the world.
And I can’t wait for it to start here. Quite the contrast with Antifa/BLM “protests”.
By comparison or what happens in foreign countries is irrelevant to Canada, canadians and what thery're doing here which for the vast majority of us is not being respectful of others
It may be the best hair flag ever!
Is she a member of your 'muscular class' Vic?
The Canadian women Olympic Hockey team has beat, Switzerland, Finland, Russia and the US (setting up another classic gold medal battle between the US and Canada) wearing masks for all of the games.
Too bad the protesting truckers aren't as tough as the Canadian Women Hockey team.
The truckers THINK they're tougher. I'm waiting for the backlash to come, from both Canada and the USA. If Canadians weren't so damn polite it would have happened already.
Seems that Ford and Toyota are cutting back on their production and this is one of the reasons.
That's just the start, once people get deprived of things they need or want we'll see what happens - from both sides of the border.
And for sure a backlash is going to start against those rogue truckers - just watch this news video and read the article to see why...
Feds to deploy more RCMP amid new blockade; Ontario court freezes Freedom Convoy fund (LINK) ->
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This should really start some fireworks, it should have been done days ago though.
21 celebrities and politicians who have been criticized for wearing blackface (LINK) ->
More than two decades ago
Fact check: Debunking false claims about the Canadian convoy protests
By Daniel Dale , CNN Wed February 9, 2022
False claims about the number of trucks
Organizers claimed in late January that the convoy had grown to tens of thousands of trucks -- even that the number was around 50,000 . Others repeated this "50,000" figure.
Theo Fleury, a retired hockey star who's a frequent critic of Trudeau, said on Fox in late January that there were "50,000 truckers" heading to Ottawa. Rogan, who has been criticized for his show's role in promoting Covid-19 misinformation, said on the show in late January that the convoy involved "apparently some insane amount of people, like 50,000 trucks." Even larger figures, like " 80,000 " or " over 130,000 " trucks, swirled on social media.
Facts First : The number of trucks involved in the protest was never anywhere close to 50,000; such a number of trucks would have taken up hundreds of miles more road space than this protest occupied . Canadian journalists put the number of trucks in the hundreds in late January. Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly told reporters on January 31 that it was impossible to provide exact crowd-size figures but that he had "heard" numbers as high as 18,000 total demonstrators -- not just truckers -- present in the city at the peak of the protest on January 29. No credible source has reported that the number of participating trucks in particular ever approached tens of thousands, let alone "50,000."
Police in Kingston, Ontario, a city through which a portion of the protest convoy passed, tweeted on January 28 that they had counted 17 full tractor-trailers, 104 tractors without trailers, 424 passenger vehicles and 6 RVs. The same day, Global News chief political correspondent David Akin tweeted that police sources had told him there were "230 tractors / tractor-trailers & 725 personal vehicles from Toronto and Western Canada," plus 200 vehicles from the eastern provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia (he added that there were an "unknown" number of others involved).
Rogan could not be immediately reached for comment. When Fleury was asked for comment about how he had repeated the false "50,000 truckers" claim on Fox, he emailed a reply in which he attacked CNN and the Trudeau government and said, "Ever heard of a little thing called marketing??? It worked."
Well spotted.
I read those wild, wild numbers last week and immediately thought somebody had just misread an article or something. There was never any way in hell that this thing involved tens of thousands of people.
I have a question for all the trucker cheerleaders here.
When BLM protestors were blocking streets and highways, did you cheer them on, or did you want them arrested?
I never want roads tied up.
Now back to you, why weren't BLM protestors arrested?
Unless it's by the Freedom Convoy.
What lead you to the unfounded conclusion that BLM protestors weren't arrested for blocking roads Vic? They WERE arrested all over the country for doing just that.
Well Vic - there are some on NT who would scream that you're "racist" if you arrest BLM members for breaking the law.
Indeed there were some on NT and many other sites declaring racism when Lakotas were arrested blocking
XL pipeline roads or the Standing Sioux supporters when they blockaded roads to stall the Lake Ohoe project.
I suppose it all depends on whose ox is getting gored and for what reason, eh?
They could call one racist for any reason.
Or they could just let one use their own words to prove it.
Citing crime statistics is not racism. If you don't like the nature of those statistics, it might be a good idea to talk to community leaders.
Why do you assume they weren't. A casual search on google brings up a ton of local news reports just for Minneapolis -
21 people were arrested for blocking streets in downtown Minneapolis during protests on the shooting of Philando Castile in 2016. 646 people were arrested (and 6 cars towed) after blocking interstate 94 to the Minneapolis airport during a protest in Nov 2020. 604 people were arrested during the George Floyd protests (402 during one weekend).
I could go on, but it seems when I provide you evidence you ignore it or move the goal posts anyway, so why waste my time...
I'm always open to information. Even though you didn't provide any links.
I do have one question though: On any of those occasions, did Trudeau impose martial law?
sure...
I didn't say a fucking thing about statistics, did I Vic?
I could link and copy and paste examples here of what I mean by a member proving it in their own words if you'd like. I'm sure you know that those comments do NOT contain any 'crime statistics'.
You wanted a qualifier with those statistics. You'll never find a statistic that has an asterisk explaining "we are not saying all." It goes without saying.
Look in the mirror!
Where did I do that Vic? You're just making shit up. YOU are the only one talking about statistics in this thread.
More irrelevant blather.
Yet here you are posting irrelevant, unresponsive blather.
Why? Sheesh Vic, your whole comment makes absolutely no fucking sense.
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