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By:  JohnRussell  •  opinion  •  4 months ago  •  137 comments

The Looney Bin 3

People who vote for Donald Trump in 2020 need to be embarrassed of themselves for the rest of their lives. 

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    4 months ago

You gotta love blogs, right. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

I will proudly vote to re elect President Trump in 2020!  No shame, no embarrassment, just pride, vindication, rewarding a job well done, and the satisfaction of annoying secular progressives.  4 more years! MAGA. Keep America 🇺🇸 Great!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

I like you, John, and NT would not be the same without you, so I'm really concerned about what you might do to yourself if Trump wins in 2020. [deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
2  Texan1211    4 months ago

Kudos to your very apt choice of title--it describes the article to a "T"
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XDm9mm
3  XDm9mm    4 months ago

I will proudly vote to re elect President Trump in 2020!  No shame, no embarrassment, just pride, vindication, rewarding a job well done, and the satisfaction of annoying secular progressives.  4 more years! MAGA. Keep America 🇺🇸 Great!

Sorry KAG....  it was just too much to type on my own.

But, I will add that I will also actively campaign for him.

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.1  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @3    4 months ago

Don't care about the United States of America do you

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @3.1    4 months ago

Maybe he just cares enough to not be fooled like you are by the Democratic Party.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Don Overton @3.1    4 months ago
Don't care about the United States of America do you

I do very much care.  That's why I want to do everything in my power to protect it from the raving radicals of the left as they follow and obey the orders of America haters like George Soros.

 
 
 
arkpdx
4  arkpdx    4 months ago

There you go projecting your feelings to others after voting for the loser, Hillary Clinton .

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  arkpdx @4    4 months ago
There you go projecting your feelings to others after voting for the loser, Hillary Clinton

Like most citizens of this nation, John is disgusted that Trump won, not upset that Hillary lost.  There is a difference.  

 
 
 
Don Overton
4.2  Don Overton  replied to  arkpdx @4    4 months ago

Nope speaking factual

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5  author  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Well , at least you Trump lovers are not as touchy feely as the moderators are. 

In 2016, the depths of Trump's profound unfitness for office, although known, had not yet been visible to everyone in terms of how he would behave in the presidency.

As we have seen since Jan 21, 2017, he has disgraced his office, and the American people, every day, usually many times every day, with dishonesty, corruption, buffoonery, and frankly, stupidity, on a scale never before seen at the apex of the executive branch of the national government. 

Given all these irrefutable facts, people who vote for him next year have a lot to answer for to their consciences and to the larger society. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago
Given all these irrefutable facts, people who vote for him next year have a lot to answer for to their consciences and to the larger society. 

Have no fear.  We won't demand that you thank us for saving you from your desire to become servile to the government.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1    4 months ago

You would rather vote for a psychologically disturbed pathological liar and cheat than see someone normal from the opposition party in the office. 

That is the point. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 months ago
You would rather vote for a psychologically disturbed pathological liar and cheat than see someone normal from the opposition party in the office.

You're claiming that the extremists currently populating the crop of Democrat presidential hopefuls are normal?   I appreciate your attempt at humor, I really do, but I'll stick with the known entity rather than the insanity they're peddling.

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.3  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 months ago
someone normal from the opposition party in the office. 

There is no one who fits that discription available. It does not exist. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 months ago

That's why I did not vote for HRC...jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.1.5  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.2    4 months ago

That's a hellerous comment XD.  Trump doesn't know what he's doing from one second to the next his gobbledegook is always fraught with lies and make believe.

But then I bet you love that he wants to round up kids again and cage them.

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.1.6  Don Overton  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.4    4 months ago

That's why I did

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Don Overton @5.1.5    4 months ago
But then I bet you love that he wants to round up kids again and cage them.

Do you mean like Obama prepared for and accomplished?

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.2  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

Keep up complaining about Trump trouncing Hillary in the 2016 results. Yu will have 4 more years to complain after the 2020 election. 

Some day you may even realize and admit you are on the wrong side.

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.2.1  Don Overton  replied to  dennis smith @5.2    4 months ago

No you are.  America needs American morals and values not liars, haters, racist, bigots and misogynists as the trump followers are giving us 

 
 
 
WallyW
6  WallyW    4 months ago

We fear the far left Soviet style brand of government that the Democrats are trying to foist on us, than we do the populist Trump, who cares more about people than he does government. These attempts at shaming other forum member, and the thinly disguised collective personal attacks should be stopped.

Only fools are likely to vote for whoever the Democrat sacrificial lamb is this next time around. So many high ranking Democrats are going to involved in legal proceedings by the time next year, that the voters will run away from Democrat candidates in droves. It could mean the end of the Democrat party.

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.1  dennis smith  replied to  WallyW @6    4 months ago

Spot on Wally, the skeletons will be coming out of the Dem candidate closets for months to come.

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.2  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @6    4 months ago

That's the stupidest comment I've seen yet from right wingers and that says a lot

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
7  Hal A. Lujah    4 months ago

NT has become catnip for moronic Trump supporters.  How embarrassing.

 
 
 
WallyW
7.1  WallyW  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    4 months ago

You should be embarrassed!  jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Ender
7.2  Ender  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    4 months ago

Then they will say he has not taken over the party, when that is exactly what he has done.

They believe every bigly moronic lie he shouts or whatever the twit tweets.

 
 
 
WallyW
7.2.1  WallyW  replied to  Ender @7.2    4 months ago
They believe every bigly moronic lie he shouts or whatever the twit tweets.

It's called The Trump Style, or "Trumpisms"

I stay way above the fray and pay no attention to any of it.

If he his infuriating the liberals and pissing off the press, he's doing what we elected him to do.

 
 
 
Ender
7.2.2  Ender  replied to  WallyW @7.2.1    4 months ago

No it's called being an inept asshole.

I would never want to elect someone just on the criteria of pissing off half of the country.

The fact that people cheer on this boorish behavior says more about them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @7.2.1    4 months ago
It's called The Trump Style, or "Trumpisms" I stay way above the fray and pay no attention to any of it.

You DONT GET to redefine lying into something more trivial. People who lie a dozen times every day are not psychologically stable. Maybe he's stable enough to host a reality tv show. He's not stable enough to run our country. Or ethical enough. Or intelligent enough. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.4  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @7.2.2    4 months ago

I would never want to elect someone just on the criteria of pissing off half of the country.

Then do not vote for a dem in 2020 as that is exactly what they are trying to do right now.

 
 
 
Ender
7.2.5  Ender  replied to  dennis smith @7.2.4    4 months ago

Uh huh.

When the Dems get a front runner that denigrates and calls people names, get back to me.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @7.2.5    4 months ago
When the Dems get a front runner that denigrates and calls people names

Do you mean like this young man who became the "front runner"?

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
Bam. Obama had made not only the rookie political mistake of appearing to diminish or disparage Americans' affection for guns and God; he had also displayed the temerity to talk about a group of Americans accustomed to viewing themselves simply as "regular Americans" or the American norm — not as if they were just one important segment of a rapidly changing American mosaic.

Source:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/21/obama-dusts-off-his-cling-to-guns-or-religion-idea-for-donald-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1b32f49de197

Or like this former winning "front runner"?

Clinton: Trump supporters 'deplorables'

US Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has called half of Donald Trump's supporters a "basket of deplorables". Speaking at a fundraiser, she said they were "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic - you name it".

Source:  https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2016-37329812/clinton-half-of-trump-supporters-basket-of-deplorables

 
 
 
Ender
7.2.7  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @7.2.6    4 months ago

Disparaging Americas affection for guns?

Oh my, how could he ever say such a thing. Come back when Obama calls people pencil neck, Pocahontas etc....

trump is like a spoiled child that has never been told no.

As far as the deplorables, I wouldn't have said it but, she seems to be proven right every day.

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.8  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @7.2.5    4 months ago

The Dems have over 15 of them running already

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.9  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @7.2.7    4 months ago

Hillary was absolutely WRONG and the election proved it.

 
 
 
Ender
7.2.10  Ender  replied to  dennis smith @7.2.9    4 months ago

Yes there are fine people on both sides.

So I heard.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.2.11  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @7.2.10    4 months ago
Yes there are fine people on both sides.

Yes there are.   Hell, even some Democrats are decent, albeit wrong, but decent none the less.

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.12  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @7.2.10    4 months ago

Agreed, America deserves better than the self serving career ones now in DC from both parties.

 
 
 
Ender
7.2.13  Ender  replied to  dennis smith @7.2.12    4 months ago

I agree. I am not so blind to see some of the idiots in the Dem party.

Sometimes I think they want us fighting among ourselves.

They thrive on the division.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.2.14  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @7.2.13    4 months ago
They thrive on the division.

True. And seeing what both the Republicans and Democrats have turned into today I am so glad that I don't belong to either one. 

I am very capable of thinking for myself and don't need some self-serving group, who only think of themselves and to hell with the American people, telling me what I should think and/or do with my life. 

When I look at some of the people who are rabid party liners on both sides I thank the Creator for giving me a mind that is able to think for itself and I don't need to be led by the nose by those who could care less if I die or not, just as long as I vote for them when the time comes.

I learned long ago that if someone only talks the talk and never walks the walk, then they are not worthy of my time or attention.

JMOO

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.15  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @7.2.13    4 months ago

They have special medical, retirement etc that are not available for most Americans and only they can change those "special things" ur have not and will not do so.

They are a bunch of Prima Donna's and have torn the country apart by working for themselves instead of for the people.

  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    4 months ago
How embarrassing.

Anyone who supports Trump should be ashamed. There were many other good Republicans who would be a benefit for our country, but, they jumped at the chance to pick Trump, the biggest liar, wife cheater, sexual pervert and bully there is for their candidate. 

He has indeed ruined the Republican party reputation, and made a laughing stock out of our country on the doorsteps of the world. 

And I say this as a former Republican for most of my adult life. Those who support Trump show their true colors. There are a lot of Republicans who do not and would not support him. They are the true Republicans.

MOO

 
 
 
WallyW
7.3.1  WallyW  replied to  Raven Wing @7.3    4 months ago

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WallyW
8  WallyW    4 months ago

Who gives a shit about his personal quirks and abrasive personality. I'm more concerned with the important stuff.

Like the ever worsening situation at the border, getting conservative judges confirmed, creating a better economy, keeping us out of further foreign conflicts.

All some people can do is endlessly repeat left wing talking points. Or try to shame Trump supporters. How childish and lame.

 
 
 
Ender
8.1  Ender  replied to  WallyW @8    4 months ago
Who gives a shit about his personal quirks and abrasive personality

I do when he looks like a buffoon on the world stage.

The border: is actually worse because people are turning themselves in, asking for asylum, and they can't handle it.

Conservative judges: is just pushing ideology into a justice system that is supposed to be neutral.

Economy: what has trump done to have any sway over it, one way or the other? Seems to me the economy is churning along despite trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ender @8.1    4 months ago

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arkpdx
8.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @8.1    4 months ago
Conservative judges: is just pushing ideology into a justice system that is supposed to be neutral.

Betcha had no problem with Obama pushing a liberal ideology on the courts or wouldn't bitch if Clinton won and continued in the same way. I in fact I would wager that you praised his efforts and would gave hers. 

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.3  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.2    4 months ago

I never cheered on any judicial nominations. The republicans continually blocked Obama nominees. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
8.1.4  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @8.1    4 months ago
Who gives a shit about his personal quirks and abrasive personality

I do when he looks like a buffoon on the world stage. Under Trump the world realized that America is not other countries whipping boy.

The border: is actually worse because people are turning themselves in, asking for asylum, and they can't handle it. Under Trump more are seeking asylum due to trying to get into a better country than before Trump.

Conservative judges: is just pushing ideology into a justice system that is supposed to be neutral. No value comment. The dems did the same thing when they were in control

Economy: what has trump done to have any sway over it, one way or the other? Seems to me the economy is churning along despite trump. The economy is up and you refuse to give any credit to Trump

Sore losers are just whiners with no solutions.

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.5  Ender  replied to  dennis smith @8.1.4    4 months ago

Haha.

Whipping boy? More like can't keep our word.

So you can't name one thing trump has done to help the economy?

Sore winners are the ones with no plan other than a sky is falling attitude and only they can solve problems that they created.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @8.1.3    4 months ago
The republicans continually blocked Obama nominees. 

Really?    

Do the names Sotomayor and Kagan ring a bell?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @8.1.5    4 months ago
So you can't name one thing trump has done to help the economy?

1 - Reduced taxes for ALL Americans

2 - Reduced regulations permitting companies to hire again.

3 - Got us out of horrendous trade deals which were beneficial for other countries at the expense of American companies.

But, you KNOW that.  You just refuse to acknowledge it as that would be admitting Trump is actually doing good for THIS country.

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.8  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.6    4 months ago
As part of that fact-check we noted that "By our calculation, there were actually 68 individual nominees blocked prior to Obama taking office and 79 (so far) during Obama’s term, for a total of 147."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/09/ben-cardin/did-senate-republicans-filibuster-obama-court-nomi/

Donald Trump inherited 88 district and 17 court of appeals vacancies. Fourteen months later he proclaimed “when I got in we had over 100 federal judges that weren’t appointed. I don’t know why Obama left that … Maybe he got complacent.”

The reasons for the vacancies—old news to most—was the flimsy confirmation record in the 2015-16 Senate (the 114th), with its new Republican majority. Just as it refused to consider Merrick Garland’s Supreme Court nomination, it shut down the lower court confirmation process. That’s water under the bridge. But documenting how the 114thSenate ratcheted up the contentiousness and polarization of an already broken confirmation process suggests how much harder it will be to ratchet it back into something with more comity and bipartisanship.

Still, of the 21 circuit vacancies he’s filled as of late May and others he soon will, up to seven could have had Obama appointees under pre-2015 norms. So too, up to 71 of the district vacancies he inherited and has only begun to fill could have had Obama appointees.

Final two-year court of appeals (CA) confirmations in 2015-16 were eight fewer than in George Bush’s final two years; district confirmations were 40 fewer. Those confirmations were even fewer compared to Clinton’s and Reagan’s. Final two-year confirmations were mostly 20% or more of all eight-year confirmations for Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, but dropped to four and seven percent for Obama.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/04/senate-obstructionism-handed-judicial-vacancies-to-trump/
 
 
 
Ender
8.1.9  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    4 months ago

Reducing taxes was certainly a boom for company buy backs.

Deregulation is not a windfall.

Trade is down.

You can look at almost any chart and see where we were after the recession and the incline during all of Obama's time in office.

One can look at charts and see the tax cut gave a spike then settled back down.

 
 
 
dennis smith
8.1.10  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @8.1.5    4 months ago

Other countries are putting more money into NATO and the UN instead uf just the USA. 

Lower unemployment for one. That alone upends your "So you can't name one thing Trump has done to help the economy" 

Dems lost the presidency that was all but being given to Hillary and for over two years have whined bitterly instead of accepting the election results. 

Dems have  been touting the Mueller report as acceptable yet when it was done, Trump was not guilty so now they say the report was not acceptable. Why, because it proved them wrong.

Get ready for another 4 years of Trump after the 2020 election. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.1.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    4 months ago

Anything that is named they would just deny or claim it is faked. To acknowledge them would mean they could be wrong...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.12  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    4 months ago

deleted at the authors request. [ph]

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.13  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @8.1.9    4 months ago
Reducing taxes was certainly a boom for company buy backs.

Yes it was.   And those stock buy backs increased the per share valuation which was great for public and private pension plans, 401k's, IRA'a and individual stock portfolios.  Do you have a problem with increasing the value of pension plans ensuring they're available for longer periods of time?

Deregulation is not a windfall.

The general economy thinks otherwise.

Trade is down.

Yes and no.   Our purchases are actually up as evidenced by the trade deficit going up.  But that's due to the great economic conditions in this country, and lower taxes coupled with wage growth permitting Americans to buy more product, both domestic and imported.  Our lower exports are due in large part to the stagnating and/or contracting economic conditions in other countries.  Including China, our largest trading partner, who is if not in recession, very close to it.

You can look at almost any chart and see where we were after the recession and the incline during all of Obama's time in office.

Yes, Obama had the advantage of several trillion dollars in stimulus spending, much of it initiated before he even took the oath of office.  He also enjoyed near zero interest rates for nearly his entire time in office, plus the FED pumping 85 Billion dollars a month into the system in attempts to stabilize it.  One must surmise you have heard of "Quantitative Easing" correct?   And when you look at those 'charts', please note that when the fed STOPPED pumping billions into the system and started tipping it's toes into raising rates, the steady rise the economy enjoyed, essentially flat lined.  There were minor ups and downs consistent with normal market movements, but no long term growth.   UNTIL November 2016 when Trump was elected.  At that point, the markets and economy started a great period of growth.

One can look at charts and see the tax cut gave a spike then settled back down.

As noted above, when the rest of the global economy is slowing, and some teetering on recession, I'm surprised we're not in recession ourselves.  But we're rebuilding OUR economy as opposed to the economies of other countries at our expense.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8.1.14  Jasper2529  replied to  Ender @8.1    4 months ago
I do when he looks like a buffoon on the world stage.

The buffoon was the guy who apologized for the USA on both the national and world stage.

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.1.15  Don Overton  replied to  Jasper2529 @8.1.14    4 months ago

Again that comment is nothing more than bullshit

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8.1.16  Jasper2529  replied to  Don Overton @8.1.15    4 months ago
Again that comment is nothing more than bullshit

Prove it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @8.1.16    4 months ago

The comment itself is the usual "proof".

You are simply wasting time asking for it.

Never going to happen.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8.1.18  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.17    4 months ago

I know.  jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.19  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.12    4 months ago

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JohnRussell
8.1.20  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.19    4 months ago

deleted at author's request [ph]

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.21  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.13    4 months ago

Actually the stock market has been flat since the middle of 2017.

From what I can see the GDP for the first of the year was 2.2. Not bad but not this great boon of 4 or 5 percent that trump said he could achieve.

As far as the quantitative easing that was happening across the globe, not just the US.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.22  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @8.1.21    4 months ago
Actually the stock market has been flat since the middle of 2017.

True, and good to see you paying attention.  However, global markets have pulled back appreciably since they're very fearful of European and Asian recessions.  Hell, you must know as well as I do that China, is teetering on the brink right now, and BREXIT is giving the European markets a case of the shits.   It will be interesting to see what rabbit they pull out of the hat as it concerns the current Beijing/Washington talks.

From what I can see the GDP for the first of the year was 2.2. Not bad but not this great boon of 4 or 5 percent that trump said he could achieve.

Lets face facts had the global economy not contracted as badly as it has, the numbers would be appreciable higher.

As far as the quantitative easing that was happening across the globe, not just the US.

While it's nice to throw it out there, it was essentially what kept the Obama gains going.  Once it stopped, as Obama had no forward looking economic policies of his own other than regulating the shit out of companies, and trying to do what Clinton promised, putting coal miners and the companies they worked for out of business.

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.23  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.22    4 months ago

China can control its own currency. They are expanding all over the globe while some here want us to retract.

had the global economy not contracted as badly as it has, the numbers would be appreciable higher

I could also say that his trade policy is having a constricting impact.

Regulations are a necessary part. Deregulation has had no major impact on the economy. It has a major impact on the environment.

The coal companies are a dying breed, no matter what trump says.

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.2  Don Overton  replied to  WallyW @8    4 months ago

And you  don't  endless read from the trump paybook.  How funny

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
9  Dean Moriarty    4 months ago

He is the most valuable asset we have in slowing the spread of socialism. I’d take him over anyone the Dems have to offer. 

 
 
 
Ender
9.1  Ender  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9    4 months ago
Who gives a shit about his personal quirks and abrasive personality

oh please. The encroaching socialism is just a boogie man for the right.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @9.1    4 months ago
The encroaching socialism

Thank you for finally admitting and acknowledging that socialism is in fact encroaching on this country.

 
 
 
Ender
9.1.2  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.1    4 months ago

I didn't admit anything.

Socialism fast encroaching?  

Must be all those employee owned business I see everywhere.  Haha

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.1.3  Jasper2529  replied to  Ender @9.1.2    4 months ago
Socialism fast encroaching?  

Please name one declared Democrat candidate who isn't promoting Socialism and Socialist programs.

 
 
 
Don Overton
9.1.4  Don Overton  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.1.3    4 months ago

Name one that is, and what you think socialism is because it's been a staple of the U.S.A.  for many, many years  you just don't know  our history with dumb comments

 
 
 
TᵢG
9.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.1.3    4 months ago

Statism (in particular social democracy), not socialism.    To promote socialism one would have to actively seek to change the economic system of the nation.   Bernie Sanders, et. al. use the term 'socialism' (stupidly, by the way) yet their policies have very little to do with decentralized economic freedom for the people.    In contrast, they want more government control, redistribution of wealth and higher taxes (especially for businesses and high income individuals).   That is classical statism.

Further, the USA has had social democracy since FDR.   Not as profound as Europe but it is part of our socio-economic/political system.   The D party, as a rule, is in favor of more social democracy (and more statism) while the R party, as a rule (at least in the past), has been for smaller, more-limited government (less statism).

Socialism itself will not be seen in any of our lifetimes (if ever) so might as well focus on that which is currently advocated:  statism (albeit it is referred to as 'socialism').

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.5    4 months ago

Hello, TiG. You've posted the same comment to me several times. Thanks again. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
9.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.1.6    4 months ago

I do not keep records, rather just sporadically opine when people complain about something that could not happen in the USA in our lifetimes and miss what is actually happening right now.   

Complaining about socialism is silly.   Complaining of encroaching statism is demonstrably valid.

( I do not recall replying to any of your comments this calendar year. )

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.1.8  Jasper2529  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.7    4 months ago
I do not keep records, rather just sporadically opine when people complain about something that could not happen in the USA in our lifetimes and miss what is actually happening right now. 

I didn't state or imply that you keep records, and I didn't complain about anything.

Have a good day.

 
 
 
TᵢG
9.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.1.8    4 months ago
I didn't state or imply that you keep records, and I didn't complain about anything.

Correct.   I stated that I do not keep records to inform you that if I had mentioned socialism to you in the past that I likely would not know how many times I had done so.   (But per my comment history it seems today is the first time I have replied to you in the calendar year 2019.)  And I did not say you personally were complaining about socialism.  I made a comment in general about what is taking place in the political scene today.

You have made quite a few statements now and not one of them on what I actually wrote:  the use of 'socialism' as a label when the actual issue is 'statism'.


Now is a good time for you to use IMPASSE.   Just click on my avatar and select the IMPASSE option.   Then you will not have any reason to put forth yet another irrelevant meta comment.

 
 
 
Ender
9.1.10  Ender  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.1.3    4 months ago

I would not call things like healthcare socialism.

It is taking care of the population.

It is not an economic system.

 
 
 
Don Overton
9.2  Don Overton  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9    4 months ago

A comment that shows a complet ignorance of fact

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
10  Uncle Bruce    4 months ago

Hey John!

How's that Russian Collusion working out for ya?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Uncle Bruce @10    4 months ago

I never really cared if Trump was guilty of a crime in the "Russia" thing. It would have made it easier to get rid of the fool, but other than that I was not invested in the "collusion" idea. 

My biggest problem with Trump is that he is an asshole, a gigantic asshole. He lies, exploits people, cheats, is corrupt and unethical, and a big blowhard who lies constantly. No one would want this clown for a friend but they want him as a president. It is absurd. 

I read a couple days ago that a company that worked on the Trump Hotel in D.C. that opened a couple years ago is suing the Trump Org. for non payment of bills. He is still stiffing small businesses even after he is president. Enough of him disgracing this country. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
10.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago
My biggest problem with Trump is that he is an asshole, a gigantic asshole. He lies, exploits people, cheats, is corrupt and unethical, and a big blowhard who lies constantly.

You make it sound like he should be a Democrat.  And after a 2 year investigation there is nothing (no surprise).  But, lying and being an ass aren't impeachable offenses.  If that were the case there wouldn't be any politicians left.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
10.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago

Trump as POTUS is the right’s equivalent of what we could expect if Baba Booey had ran and won as a Democrat.  The only difference is that Dems are smart enough to never let that happen.  Republicans - not so much, obviously.

 
 
 
dennis smith
10.1.3  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago
Who gives a shit about his personal quirks and abrasive personality

I do when he looks like a buffoon on the world stage.

The border: is actually worse because people are turning themselves in, asking for asylum, and they can't handle it.

Conservative judges: is just pushing ideology into a justice system that is supposed to be neutral.

Economy: what has trump done to have any sway over it, one way or the other? Seems to me the economy is churning along despite trump.

 
 
 
dennis smith
10.1.4  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago

My biggest problem with Trump is that he is an asshole, a gigantic asshole. He lies, exploits people, cheats, is corrupt and unethical, and a big blowhard who lies constantly. 

Opinion with no proof once again

 
 
 
dennis smith
10.1.5  dennis smith  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.1.2    4 months ago
My biggest problem with Trump is that he is an asshole, a gigantic asshole. He lies, exploits people, cheats, is corrupt and unethical, and a big blowhard who lies constantly. No one would want this clown for a friend but they want him as a president. It is absurd. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago
Enough of him disgracing this country. 

Not quite John.

The embarrassment to America was his predecessor going on his Hate America Global apology tours.

 
 
 
Ender
10.1.7  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.6    4 months ago

Funny that he was very well liked across the globe, despite the claims of otherwise.

trump is a joke to most others.

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
10.1.8  Uncle Bruce  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    4 months ago
he is an asshole, a gigantic asshole. He lies, exploits people, cheats, is corrupt and unethical, and a big blowhard who lies constantly.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  You just described every politician, Republican or Democrat in Washington.

Seriously John, name me one serving or recently serving politician who hasn't done the things you just named.  Certainly not Obama, nor Hillary.  Or any of the other buffoons up there right now.  The closest I could come up with would be Trey Gowdey.

 
 
 
luther28
10.1.9  luther28  replied to  Uncle Bruce @10.1.8    4 months ago

I had to go back to Jimmy Carter, a terrible President but an exceptional human being.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @10.1.7    4 months ago
Funny that he was very well liked across the globe, despite the claims of otherwise.

I never said he wasn't.  And why wouldn't he be liked?  Every place he visited he apologized for what he believed America had done to them.

They loved that he blamed America for their problems instead of acknowledging that they were the creators of their own problems and no one else was to blame but themselves.  Kind of like what he accomplished as a Community Organizer.  Convince his audience that it was the fault of society rather than their own fault for the situations they found themselves in.

 
 
 
Don Overton
10.2  Don Overton  replied to  Uncle Bruce @10    4 months ago

Coming close to being proved hows that work for you

 
 
 
Texan1211
10.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @10.2    4 months ago

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You keep believing that. Most of the others have switched from "Wait until Mueller finishes--Trump will be toast" to some vague "The Mueller Report doesn't exonerate Trump", even though most adults know that the report wasn't supposed to exonerate anyone--that isn't what it was ever supposed to do.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
11  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 months ago
People who vote for Donald Trump in 2020 need to be embarrassed of themselves for the rest of their lives.

Voted for him in 2016 (without outside influence) and will vote for him again in 2020 (without outside interference).  It was the democrats that influenced my vote and have already influenced it for the next election.

 
 
 
Don Overton
11.1  Don Overton  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @11    4 months ago

I totally doubt you would have ever voted for anyone else

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
11.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Don Overton @11.1    3 months ago

Given the choices, there was / is no way in hell I could vote for Clinton.  

Unfortunately, presidential elections usually brings about the bottom of the barrel candidates.

There is an inherent problem when you promote from within when there are as many problems as we see coming from Washington.  There may be a new ass in the seat, but nothing will be done to correct the problems.  Fortunately, there was a newcomer that put a temporary stop to it.

In the last 40 years there have been 2 non-career politicians voted in as President.  Both pissed off both political parties and really didn't care.  And both have brought about change for the better of the country over party.  This is how it should be.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
12  bbl-1    4 months ago

Looney bin?

1.  Trump's Birtherism worked.

2.  Trump's tax obligations/liabilities will never be revealed.

3.  Trump's payments to adult film actresses, Playboy models and perhaps others are totally meaningless.

4.  Trump's investigation by The Special Council is already determined.

5.  Trump's stance on ( Khashoggi who/what ) is perfectly played.

In other words, the Trump is invincible. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @12    4 months ago

Good. Then all those whining about him can simply give it a break.

 
 
 
bbl-1
12.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1    4 months ago

Isn't that what I said?  Pay attention.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @12.1.1    4 months ago
Isn't that what I said? Pay attention.

No, no it isn't what you said.

Quote yourself if you can.

 
 
 
bbl-1
12.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.2    4 months ago

circle jerk yourself

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @12.1.3    4 months ago
circle jerk yourself

Pathetic try. Nowhere in post #12 does that appear.

Try harder.

 
 
 
MUVA
12.1.5  MUVA  replied to  bbl-1 @12.1.3    4 months ago

That can only be done in a fun house.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
12.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @12.1.5    4 months ago

General announcement:

Stop with the taunting. I will start to write up tickets to those that I feel are taunting as well as those reacting to the taunting. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.6    4 months ago

I am curious as to why we can't tell someone to f*&% off but we can tell someone to jerk themselves off.

Doesn't really seem like much difference to me.

 
 
 
Don Overton
12.1.8  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.7    4 months ago

Maybe because some of us have more class and values

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @12.1.8    4 months ago
Maybe because some of us have more class and values

First off, that comment has NO relation to what I posted.

Second, I would LOVE to see some demonstration for what you claim.

I'm waiting.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @12.1.8    4 months ago

No, it is because SOME people can say it and it is allowed, but not everyone can.

Depends, I suppose.

It DAMN sure ain't the same for all.

 
 
 
Don Overton
12.2  Don Overton  replied to  bbl-1 @12    4 months ago

Trump's an asshole and you just proved it

 
 
 
luther28
13  luther28    4 months ago

I myself would pluck out my right eye rather than cast a vote for Mr. Trump, but I have no ill thoughts for any who may.

I have managed to suffer through the past couple of years, I can make six more if I am forced ( but truly I would rather not) and not on the other side already. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  luther28 @13    4 months ago
I myself would pluck out my right eye rather than cast a vote for Mr. Trump, but I have no ill thoughts for any who may. I have managed to suffer through the past couple of years, I can make six more if I am forced ( but truly I would rather not) and not on the other side already.

Trump is clearly unfit to be president of the United States. In fact, he is obviously unfit for any office. This truth explains the need to "attack" Trump supporters. Trump is not held up by his own qualities, he is held up by the blind loyalty of those who will accept an obviously unfit leader as long as he demagogues to their liking. The deplorables are failing in their duty as citizens. 

 
 
 
luther28
13.1.1  luther28  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    4 months ago
The deplorables are failing in their duty as citizens

Not for nothing John, but you are not going to win them over like this. For whatever reasons there are many folks out there that think Mr. Trump is doing a good job ( no I am not one of them), you need to offer them something better should you wish to swing them ( or at least what they think may be better).

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  luther28 @13.1.1    4 months ago
Not for nothing John, but you are not going to win them over like this. For whatever reasons there are many folks out there that think Mr. Trump is doing a good job ( no I am not one of them), you need to offer them something better should you wish to swing them ( or at least what they think may be better).

I am not trying to win them over. That looks like a fool's errand. I am trying to win over opposition to them and Trump. We are in a conflict. If independents don't want to affirmatively realize the damage this man is doing to our society, then we need to get more people from left of center out to vote. Being nice to people who are ruining this country is not the answer, beating them is. 

 
 
 
luther28
13.1.3  luther28  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.2    4 months ago
Being nice to people who are ruining this country is not the answer, beating them is. 

Then as I said, offer them something better (by the by you do not have to convince me). The folks who are still aligned with Mr. Trump are there for the duration and will not be budged.

For the rest of us if the economy is chugging along and we haven't managed to blow up the planet by then the Dems had better put forth a great platform and candidate or as I said we may get another four years of this.

 
 
 
cms5
13.1.4  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.2    4 months ago
Being nice to people who are ruining this country is not the answer, beating them is.

I have to agree with luther here...running with a 'beat them' platform is simply not going to win over those who feel the current economy has been better for them than it has been for a long while. If their lives are better...how have they ruined this country?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
14  Freedom Warrior    4 months ago

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

 
 
 
Don Overton
14.1  Don Overton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @14    4 months ago

What is your idea of freedom.  What is your idea of warrior.  

 
 
 
cms5
15  cms5    4 months ago

It is unfortunate that some choose to 'vote shame' people into voting for someone they find to be 'deserving' of office. The very 'qualities' they might see in their candidates isn't shared by everyone. That's the world we live in. We are a diverse Nation and cannot be shamed, or told who we must vote for.

Trump may have personal issues and he definitely isn't an average politician that backs away in order to appease voters. Many who voted for him did so because they were tired of politicians.

I've been watching the current Dem pool of candidates and have listened to many talk about how wonderful they are...but their main goal is to beat Trump. We've heard some serious far left progressives talk about some plans that would 'benefit all' but leave out exactly how those plans would be paid for...while chiding Trump over the statement that Mexico will pay for the wall. If all they've got are empty promises on a beat Trump platform...they will find themselves in the same position as Hillary.

Trump voters don't like empty promises and they don't mind being called names...as long as they have jobs, more money for their families...and feel like their government is working for them. No attempt at 'shaming' will dissuade them.

I will cast a vote in 2020 for the candidate of my choosing...with honor and pride.

 
 
 
Don Overton
15.1  Don Overton  replied to  cms5 @15    4 months ago

All False statements involving Donald Trump

Page 1 of 12 
 
 
 
luther28
15.1.1  luther28  replied to  Don Overton @15.1    4 months ago

We know that Mr. Trump will never be a purveyor of the truth, he never has been and yet the people voted for him.

There are many out there that could care a wit about the truth, what concerns them most is their day to day lives.

 
 
 
cms5
15.1.2  cms5  replied to  Don Overton @15.1    4 months ago

Not sure what your point might be as my post never claimed that Trump is always factual.

 
 
 
luther28
15.2  luther28  replied to  cms5 @15    4 months ago

Nicely stated.

 
 
 
freepress
16  freepress    4 months ago

If only his supporters who may have a family member with dementia or other similar neurological disorder, knowing how the disease manifests or presents in the patient and how it progresses, they would know something is terribly, terribly wrong with Trump.

All anyone has to do is watch how his speech and language is deteriorating just over the past 2 years.  

He is beginning to slur his words, have difficulty with word finding, extreme short term memory loss forgetting the names of those he is speaking to or about, and has displayed his open paranoia. All of this is common in dementia patients, and the list of actual symptoms he has openly displayed goes on and on and on.

What kind of family lets a person who is clearly beginning to suffer a serious illness and does not step in to get the man some help.

What kind of blind follower of his refuses to see this reality? Who would let a man suffer like this and therefore make other suffer also as a result of his failing mind?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
16.1  XDm9mm  replied to  freepress @16    4 months ago
If only his supporters who may have a family member with dementia or other similar neurological disorder, knowing how the disease manifests or presents in the patient and how it progresses, they would know something is terribly, terribly wrong with Trump.

All anyone has to do is watch how his speech and language is deteriorating just over the past 2 years.  

He is beginning to slur his words, have difficulty with word finding, extreme short term memory loss forgetting the names of those he is speaking to or about, and has displayed his open paranoia. All of this is common in dementia patients, and the list of actual symptoms he has openly displayed goes on and on and on.

DAMN......   That actually describes Hillary Clinton while on the campaign trail, EXACTLY.   Of course that's when she was out campaigning and not home napping.

But don't those suffering the effects of dementia on-set also stare wide eyed at bright objects, like balloons, and have trouble walking and stumbling often?  Kind of like Hillary did on the campaign trail?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
16.1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  XDm9mm @16.1    4 months ago

I was thinking that that ludicrous description of Trump was more fitting to Nancy Pelosi, but HRC is also applicable.

 
 
 
WallyW
16.2  WallyW  replied to  freepress @16    4 months ago
What kind of blind follower of his refuses to see this reality? Who would let a man suffer like this and therefore make other suffer also as a result of his failing mind?

You appear to have a very vivid imagination. And I doubt you have have the training or expertise to make judgements about other's mental health, while not questioning your own. So your opinion is not worth regarding.

But the person you are describing is Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump. We could see her losing coherence and sanity right before our eyes, day after day, on ever issue for the past ~30 years. .

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
17  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 months ago

Everyday I wake up and weep, I mean Nazis and Russia and Russia and stuff.

She was suppressed to win 107% guaranteed, Why did John Podesta have to say she smelled like moth balls and farts?

And Do I like Comey? I mean emails but then leaks, It's so confusing but Russia....

I stood at the camera in New York screaming "He will not divide us, He will not divide us but Russia it didn't work." 

Is that a Nazi hand signal your giving me?


The good news is the 2020 election will be even more nuts----bf
 
 
 
JohnRussell
17.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @17    4 months ago

You are carrying a heavy burden. Lay down your Hillary obsession and walk upright and free. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
17.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1    4 months ago

One only needs to look at your seed history to learn about obsession. 

i·ro·ny1
/ˈīrənē/
noun
  1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
17.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @17.1.1    4 months ago

I don't see any "liberals" on this site mentioning Hillary Clinton. You mention her almost every day. The problem is yours. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
17.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1.2    4 months ago

You mention Trump every day.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
17.1.4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Texan1211 @17.1.3    4 months ago

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