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Laura Ingraham apologizes because advertisers bail

  

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Via:  krishna  •  7 years ago  •  118 comments

Laura Ingraham apologizes because advertisers bail

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Several companies announced Thursday that they were pulling the plug on advertising during Laura Ingraham’s show after the Fox News host bashed a teen survivor of the Parkland school shooting.



Nutrish, the pet food line owned by celebrity chef Rachael Ray, was the first to tweet that it would no longer advertise during Ingraham’s show. 



“We are in the process of removing our ads from Laura Ingraham’s program, as the comments she has made are not consistent with how we feel people should be treated,” a spokesman for Nutrish told HuffPost in a statement.



Hours later, travel site TripAdvisor and home goods retailer Wayfair followed suit.



In a statement to HuffPost, TripAdvisor said Ingraham’s comments crossed “the line of decency”. ( Read it all)



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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    7 years ago

Nutrish, the pet food line owned by celebrity chef Rachael Ray, was the first to tweet that it would  no longer advertise  during Ingraham’s show. 

“We are in the process of removing our ads from Laura Ingraham’s program, as the comments she has made are not consistent with how we feel people should be treated,” a spokesman for Nutrish told HuffPost in a statement.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1    7 years ago
Nutrish, the pet food line owned by celebrity chef Rachael Ray, was the first to tweet that it would no longer advertise during Ingraham’s show.

I think we can already predict the response from the alt-right. They are going to come out with a statement bashing that dog food:

We at the NRA have tasted Nutrish dog food and its no good-- it tastes like cardboard! So that company's actions should be disregarded...nothing to see here folks, move on...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @1.1    7 years ago
I think we can already predict the response from the alt-right.

The "alt-right"?

Maybe you can answer tacos legendary question:  What exactly did Ingraham say that was so offensive?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Krishna @1.1    7 years ago
. nothing to see here folks, move on...

You can say that again. She shouldn't even have apologized to him, since he's not man enough to accept it. Most of them will quietly come back after this annoying little piss-ant goes away and is forgotten about. Looks like y'all got a crush on this little potty mouthed rabble-rouser.

 
 
 
Randy
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1.1.3  Randy  replied to  Krishna @1.1    7 years ago
We at the NRA have tasted Nutrish dog food and its no good-- it tastes like cardboard!

Who got that job? And how do they know how a dog thinks it tastes?

 
 
 
lib50
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1.1.4  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    7 years ago
What exactly did Ingraham say that was so offensive?

She disdainfully insulted a young man who just came through a mass shooting about something personal and was snarky and bitchy.  Which she is totally allowed to do.  Unfortunately, she has met her match.  This group of kids is way savvier than she (and the NRA) is when it comes to using social media.  And they are smart enough to know where to hit.  THE MONEY.  The right is scared shitless right now and I don't think they have a clue how to get through this yet.  Ingraham might be joining O'Reilly soon. This generation has grown up with the bombast and bullshit our generations have created.  They aren't buying the crap.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  lib50 @1.1.4    7 years ago
Unfortunately, she has met her match.

This too will pass, as everything else has, that has to do with politics.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Randy @1.1.3    7 years ago

If any of the dog food in question has bone meal in it, they will suffer intestinal problems.  The human system can't digest it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Randy @1.1.3    7 years ago

I had to take that job when I got laid off at the cat food factory.

It doesn't taste like cardboard....it has a meatier taste than your average cereal.

I was damn glad that the cat food factory took me back after a few weeks

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    7 years ago

Hours later, travel site TripAdvisor and home goods retailer Wayfair followed suit.

In a statement to HuffPost, TripAdvisor said Ingraham’s comments crossed “the line of decency”:

We believe strongly in the values of our company, especially the one that says, “We are better together.”   

We also believe Americans can disagree while still being agreeable, and that the free exchange of ideas within a community, in a peaceful manner, is the cornerstone of our democracy. 

We do not, however, condone the inappropriate comments made by this broadcaster. In our view, these statements focused on a high school student, cross the line of decency. As such, we have made a decision to stop advertising on that program.

We can expect a negative comment from the NRA any moment now-- bashing Trip Advisor and putting forth its opinion on Trip Advisor:

Trip Advisor sucks! Everywhere they send you is a definite bad trip! 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  seeder  Krishna    7 years ago

A spokeswoman for Wayfair told HuffPost that Ingraham’s comments were “not consistent with our values.”

“As a company, we support open dialogue and debate on issues,” the Wayfair spokeswoman said. “However, the decision of an adult to personally criticize a high school student who has lost his classmates in an unspeakable tragedy is not consistent with our values. We do not plan to continue advertising on this particular program.”

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Krishna @3    7 years ago
the decision of an adult to personally criticize a high school student

Except she didn't do anything of the kind, did she.

 
 
 
lib50
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3.1.1  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    7 years ago
Except she didn't do anything of the kind, did she.

Yes she did.  She was snarky and insulting about his personal life.  Nobody says she can't say things.  But there are consequences.  And now people are FINALLY waking up to the fact you have to FOLLOW AND GO AFTER THE MONEY.  She and Hannity can keep yapping. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @3.1.1    7 years ago
She was snarky and insulting about his personal life

How? Quote please. Maybe I'm misreading Twitter (I don't have an account of my own) but it looks to me like all she said was,

Dinged by UCLA with a 4.1 GPA...totally predictable given acceptance rates.

Everything else in the tweet is from the article and not her words.

What about "Dinged by UCLA with a 4.1 GPA...totally predictable given acceptance rates" is "snarky and insulting?"

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.2    7 years ago

ANNNNNNNND crickets...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    7 years ago

Hogg is the perfect liberal, 

A  bully who demands anyone who dares criticize him be silenced, but in turn does nothing but viciously smear those he disagrees with. What a perfect little liberal. 

As Ben Shapiro said:

"You may not like what Ingraham said. You may disagree with it. I did. But it isn't remotely CLOSE to the level of viciousness with which Hogg has attacked people who disagree with him.

I was Hogg's age when I started writing a syndicated column. I got hammered repeatedly — and some of it was justified. When you join the public discourse, you take on slings and arrows. That's even more true if you decide to maliciously malign your opponents, as Hogg has." 

Rather deal with critics, Hogg runs to corporations to protect his fragile little ego.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    7 years ago

Sean,

I have to disagree with you. This is all a case of the power of the pen. 

She IS the adult in this case. Her tweet was mean spirited and unnecessary, but she was free to do it. 

His was in response to hers. His just used the power of the pen more effectively. 

That is not being a bully. That is being smart. Tell me, if someone publicly tried to insult you, what would your reaction be? Mine would be to hit back. The kid is savey for sure, but a bully not. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    7 years ago

Well Perrie, I have to disagree with you. If you read her tweet, it was directed at Universities for rejecting somebody with the credentials of David Hogg. 

David Hogg has called for a boycott of her sponsors. He also said "Sen Marco Rubio has blood on his hands" and you call him smart?

Let's be honest, if David Hogg was calling for an end to abortion we wouldn't even be hearing about him.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.2  JBB  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    7 years ago

There have been multiple concerted efforts by the alt-right to demonize, dehumanize, delegitimize and defame a young man , David Hogg, for merely speaking up for those who can no longer speak for themselves regarding sensible gun control laws and for this his character has been repeatedly assassinated. This has all been beyond the pale and outside the bounds of human decency in my not so humble opine. First the alt-right on-line falsely claimed Hogg of being a crisis actor. Then they falsely claimed he was not even at school that day. He was been called a Nazi by adults. Now, national news anchors obviously feel free to publicly ridicule a young man with a 4.2 GPA for supposedly not getting into some college he applied to. That is all so wrong on so many levels it is stunning or it should be. At long last have we as a society no decency? No sense of propriety? No empaty? Are even the young and innocent survivors of our worst public tragedies fair game? This has all transpired right here on The NewsTalkers because I have seen it. The hostility expressed by adults on-line toward David Hogg is really something new and People are taking notice this time around...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    7 years ago

Vic,

What she did is called a twofer. She took a dig at him and at the UC policies of admissions (which is rumored to be Asian friendly) Here is her actual tweet:

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Whining is not a compliment. It is a cheap shot. 

David Hogg has called for a boycott of her sponsors. He also said "Sen Marco Rubio has blood on his hands" and you call him smart?

First of all you are combining two different tweets, and I called him smart in regards to this event, and not the one about Marco Rubio. But the better word I used later, which is savey.. and he is. He out foxed an adult at her own game. 

Let's be honest, if David Hogg was calling for an end to abortion we wouldn't even be hearing about him.

Of course not. But again, not relevant to this. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    7 years ago

Laura was simply telling the truth about him. Some of the easily awed might swoon at the sight of him, but most educated and aware people consider him to be a potty mouthed brat exploiting a tragedy to make a political point. The comments made about Senator Rubio are beyond the pale, but are typical of the leftists. The universities could see a polarizing potty mouthed trouble maker coming and decided to say no. Maybe he has a career as a community activist or even a politician.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    7 years ago
er tweet was mean spirited and unnecessary,

Have you seen what David Hogg says about people who disagree with him? He makes Ingram look like Mother Theresa.

This kid wants to be taken seriously as the leader of a movement, yet his response to criticism is to run to corporations to silence his critic? Does he want to be taken seriously, or does he want to act like a spoiled brat who lashes out at people and then hides behind someone else at the first sign of blowback. 

That is not being a bully. That is being smart. Tell me, if someone publicly tried to insult you, what would your reaction be?

I would say its being cowardly. If he wants to play in the big boy sandbox, he should be able to stand up for himself. Which is he, a kid who needs coddling or the leader of a movement to change the country? He can't have it both ways. 

If I was attacked publicly after calling others child murderers, I would hope I would fight back myself rather than using massive corporations to smother all dissent. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @6.1.2    7 years ago
The hostility expressed by adults on-line toward David Hogg is really something new and People are taking notice this time around...

It's because this grandstanding kid has the anti-gunners fooled by his supposed quest to end gun violence. That's not what he is about at all, and it's hard to understand why his adoring fans can't see through his dishonesty. It he wants to make friends and influence people, he is going about it the wrong way. Do those of us who disagree with him have targets on our backs? Do you want us banned?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.6    7 years ago
It he wants to make friends and influence people

If he actually cared about achieving gun control he would be working with moderates like Marco Rubio, who is always willing to work with Democrats, rather than calling him a child murderer. His agenda is obviously promoting himself as a leader of the far left of the party, and "gun control" is just his vehicle.

The last thing he wants is substantive progress. Unless he's an idiot and thinks he's making progress by demonizing those whose help he needs. My bet is on the former. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    7 years ago
He also said "Sen Marco Rubio has blood on his hands" and you call him smart?

Here's a bit more on Rubio & gun control:

“While protests are a legitimate way of making a point, in our system of government, making a change requires finding common ground with those who hold opposing views,” he said in the statement.

But Rubio’s approach on guns has been the opposite of finding common ground. Since the shooting, he has said he will continue to accept money from the National Rifle Association, claiming the group has “less power” over him than it does other lawmakers.  Indeed, his tune hasn’t changed much since the day after the Parkland shooting, when he took to the Senate floor to argue against gun control efforts.

At the march, students from Parkland wore bright orange price tags with the amount of $1.05. This, they had calculated, was what each student in Florida was worth as a fraction of the money Rubio received from the NRA.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.9  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.6    7 years ago

It's because this grandstanding kid has the anti-gunners fooled by his supposed quest to end gun violence. That's not what he is about at all, and it's hard to understand why his adoring fans can't see through his dishonesty. It he wants to make friends and influence people, he is going about it the wrong way. Do those of us who disagree with him have targets on our backs? Do you want us banned?

He is smart-- and therefore not wasting his efforts in trying to appeal to people like you.

Generally speaking, where political issues are concerned, there are 3 groups of voters: those that are strongly supportive of your position, those strongly opposed, and those in the middle (undecideds, etc).

Those who have been political activists for quite a while (such as me!) know that the smart approach is to realize that each group must be looked at differently (given that since you rarely have unlimited time and money you need to focus on where you'll "get the most bang for your buck"):

1. The undecided: That's where  most of your effort should go-- that's where there's the most potential to pick up the most votes. Some of these people can be persuaded to support your position.

2. Those strongly supporting your position. This should be your second priority. But handing them literature about why they should support your candidate is a waste of time and money-- because they already do! So with this group you have a different focus-- getting them motivated to vote, even sometimes physically making it easy for them to get to the polls.

3. Those strongly opposing your position: Again, given limited resources, you'd be wasting time with these people. So these you can safely ignore (if it means more time to use elsewhere).

It he wants to make friends and influence people, he is going about it the wrong way.

Wrong! You're assuming he want to convert those people such as yourself, who are strongly opposed to his POV. (One misconception that political novices make is to assume you must convert everyone to supporting your candidate, obviously not true. If Hogg pisses off hard core NRA supporters, it really doesn't matter).

Do those of us who disagree with him have targets on our backs? Do you want us banned?

Hogg is smart-- he's not wastinghis time trying to appeal to those who already have their mind made up. 

 

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.10  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.6    7 years ago
It's because this grandstanding kid has the anti-gunners fooled by his supposed quest to end gun violence. That's not what he is about at all, and it's hard to understand why his adoring fans can't see through his dishonesty.

Well, I'm a big fan of his. Are you implying that I am gullible and don't realize what he's about? Because I do (or are you calling me a liar?)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.4    7 years ago

Greg,

Sorry, but no. He may be all those things, but he is still a kid and she is an adult, and she wasn't writing a commentary on the kid, she was blurting out a nasty tweet. You don't have to like the kid. That is your prerogative, but it still doesn't change what the adult in the equation did. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.7    7 years ago
If he actually cared about achieving gun control he would be working with moderates like Marco Rubio, who is always willing to work with Democrats, rather than calling him a child murderer.

Well, there Sean I would have to agree with you.. but then again, he is just a kid, and I guess being the leader to group of kids seems more appealing to a kid than being one of many helping Marco Rubio. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Krishna @6.1.10    7 years ago
Are you implying that I am gullible and don't realize what he's about?

Well,  gullible is one way to describe someone erecting a cult of personality around a 17 year kid whose main skills appear to be slandering people, misstating facts and whining. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.13    7 years ago

I guess being the leader to group of kids seems more appealing to a kid than being one of many helping Marco Rubio. 

Perrie what gun control legislation does Marco Rubio support? 

Rubio has earned the highest attainable “A+” rating from the NRA.

 
 
 
lib50
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6.1.16  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    7 years ago
If you read her tweet, it was directed at Universities for rejecting somebody with the credentials of David Hogg.

No, that is not the case at all.  Stop, she was talking about him WHINING, and she said it as an insult, clearly. Stop gaslighting.  This is what she does.  And I don't think you know what a bully is, judging by your definition.  The right is afraid of the kids, and they should be.  These kids know the score and they aren't taking crap. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.14    7 years ago
gullible is one way to describe someone erecting a cult of personality around a 17 year kid whose main skills appear to be slandering people, misstating facts and whining.

Change 17 to 71 and you have.....?

 
 
 
Telo
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6.1.20  Telo  replied to  lib50 @6.1.16    7 years ago

I'd say the whining part came from 

It is absolutely disappointing but at this point we're already changing the world. 

'If colleges want to support us in that, great, if they don't it doesn't matter, we're still going to change the world,' he said. 

Read more:   

That came across as I'm special so all of the colleges out there should let me in.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.12    7 years ago
That is your prerogative, but it still doesn't change what the adult in the equation did.

As an adult, are you supposed to succumb to and blow off what this "kid" says and how he says it? What happened to respect your goddamned elders? As I posted the other day, if he wants to delve into adult conversation and policy, he needs to be prepared to accept adult participation and not hide behind his "I'm a victim and just a kid" bullshit. The left leaning media (mostly MSNBC and CNN) have latched on to this kid, empowered him through exposing him constantly, and are using him to help push their agenda.

You're right.

She should have invited him to the show and spanked his no respect "kid" ass.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.22  Raven Wing   replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.19    7 years ago
A minor and a senior?

Or perhaps a Senior minor.....I seem to have those every now and then. yelling

 
 
 
devangelical
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7  devangelical    7 years ago

A wallet shot is a mortal wound to teapublicans. Laura better stock up on the lip balm.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @7    7 years ago

A couple of weeks from now we will probably won't be reading articles about Hogg, or Stormy Daniels either. It will on to the next fake scandal in the quest to oust Trump.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    7 years ago
A couple of weeks from now we will probably won't be reading articles about Hogg, or Stormy Daniels either.

That;s what they said about the Mueller investigation-- it was supposed to be over a long, long time ago. (But rumours of its speedy demise have turned out to be greatly exxagerated . . .)

Stormy has an unusually brilliant lawyer. And so he realizes that one tactic that would greatly benefit his client is to drag this whole thing out as long as possible...which he is doing, and doing well.

As to Hogg and the other students,  I think you misunderestimate them. Some people argue politics because...they're bored. Or they find it interesting.

And even those that strongly believe in their positions might not be as motivated as these kids. Because their best friens and/or siblings  moved down and brutally murdered before their on eyes. They will never see them again! That's not something you forget all that quickly.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Krishna @7.1.1    7 years ago

Well, they sure forgot about the 58 shot down in Las Vegas. Hardly a word about that shooting from anyone in LE or government. I guess no one cares about them because they were mostly adults and probably Republicans. Left wingers continue to ignore solutions that might work....thinking that banning things and making more laws will do the trick...they always have simplistic and unworkable solutions to complex problems.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    7 years ago
Well, they sure forgot about the 58 shot down in Las Vegas. Hardly a word about that shooting from anyone in LE or government.

And the Orlando Nightclub Shooting. And perhaps most surprising of all...Sandy Hook.

And many, many more.

So what do you think is different this time? Why are advertisers pulling ads--and some stores actually stopping sales of guns? Many people as well as individuals are finally defyingnthe NRA lobby in a way that's not happened before. 

There's one thing that's different this time...do you know what it is?

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    7 years ago

The Parkland shootings were a fake scandal to bring down comrade trumpski?

 
 
 
lib50
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7.1.5  lib50  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    7 years ago
Well, they sure forgot about the 58 shot down in Las Vegas.

I know someone shot in that mass shooting.  If its forgotten by some its because there have been so many more since. 

 
 
 
lib50
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7.1.9  lib50  replied to    7 years ago
In the meatime donations to the NRA have more than double since Parkland.

Wonder where they came from.  Russia?  They are looking into that too, they've gotten foreign money and they need to open their books.  Won't believe a thing they say until they do.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8  Tacos!    7 years ago

Several companies announced Thursday that they were pulling the plug on advertising during Laura Ingraham’s show

Why? There's no reason. She didn't do anything wrong.

Some idiot leftists decided they'd be offended about something totally ordinary. What else is new? And more leftist idiots in marketing departments somewhere just allowed the lemmings to pull them off the cliff along with them.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @8    7 years ago

OK, so an adult TV personality worth 45 Million, making 15 Million a year at Fox Entertainment can publicly belittle a penniless 17 year old student "activist"  for whining about college rejections,

citing an article that not only does not state that Hogg whined about  4 college rejections,

but which notes that he was accepted to CA San Marcos, Cal Poly and Florida American University, and possibly more.

(The kid wanted to go "home" to his old surfing neighborhoods around UCLA for college.  Blame him?)

It looks like Laura jumped the shark, assuming the source article was going to be automatically negative about Hogg, and lo and behold, it was not.

Laura, the adult, looks like an ass, then compounds it by apologizing " in the spirit of Holy Week"" to all of the Parkland survivors, not directly Hogg.

Adults are held to higher standards than minors. 

Laura should have know that before tweeting that message.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @8.1    7 years ago
OK, so an adult TV personality worth 45 Million, making 15 Million a year at Fox Entertainment can publicly belittle a penniless 17 year old student "activist"  for whining about college rejections

She can when the 17 year old is on a new TV show almost every day taking shots at all sorts of people: politicians, lobbyists, commentators like Ingraham. This is the world he injected himself into. And he's 17, not 7. Let's stop treating him like a child. He clearly does not want to be treated like a child. He is clearly doing everything he can to play with the adults.

Adults are held to higher standards than minors

If you have a problem with him being treated like an adult, then you should be demanding that the various news networks and TV shows stop pointing cameras at him and broadcasting his speech nationwide.

assuming the source article was going to be automatically negative about Hogg

I see no evidence for that. Her comment is not negative about him. It's simply an observation that getting into a good college is tough. The "whining" is from the article, not Ingraham.

Laura, the adult, looks like an ass, then compounds it by apologizing " in the spirit of Holy Week"

On the contrary, she looks like what she is: a devout Christian. Every Christian makes mistakes, but because we are Christians, we apologize even if maybe we don't feel it in our heart right at that moment. Why? Because it promotes peace.

You miss the point entirely and you miss the value of faith. It's meaningless to apologize or forgive if those actions are in accord with your feelings. It means a lot more when you do a generous thing like apologize or forgive and you do it as a choice because you know it's the right thing to do.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    7 years ago
I see no evidence for that. Her comment is not negative about him. It's simply an observation that getting into a good college is tough. The "whining" is from the article, not Ingraham.

That IS the point  - There is nothing in the article that is negative about Hogg and the word whining is Laura's, not the author of the article.

And if it wasn't "Holy Week" for Laura, is she implying she would not have apologized?

It means a lot more when you do a generous thing like apologize or forgive and you do it as a choice because you know it's the right thing to do.

Exactly my point, glad we agree.

The apology should have been limited to one sentence, instead, she makes it all about her & her show.

"On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland," Ingraham said on Twitter. "For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how 'poised' he was given the tragedy. As always he's welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion."

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @8.1.2    7 years ago
the word whining is Laura's, not the author of the article.

Unfortunately, I think Daily Wire has changed the title of their piece. When this story first broke, I followed Ingraham's link and the line about whining was actually the title of the article.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.3    7 years ago

It was linked to this article on TMZ

David Hogg helped spearhead a movement in the wake of the Parkland massacre that has resonated around the world, and you'd think colleges around the country would be clamoring to snag him, but sadly that's not the case.

David has been rejected by the 4 University of California campuses where he submitted applications -- UCLA, UCSD, UCSB and UC Irvine. He says the rejection letters came 2 weeks ago. He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.

Schools claim extracurricular activities count, but if organizing the March For Our Lives wasn't enough ... it's not clear what is. David is clearly disappointed.

David got accepted at Cal Poly, Cal State San Marcos and Florida Atlantic University, but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating.

And David says fellow leader Ryan Deitsch also got rejected from the University of California system.  He says Emma Gonzalez will be going to the liberal arts school, New College of Florida.

We're thinking some of these admission committees are dropping the ball.

As other outlets picked it up, it's possible they added to or modified content.

Unfortunately as i started working this morning I cleared the original tweet and link  off of this PC ( along with the rest of yesterdays clutter)  and I cannot find my back to it either.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9  Tacos!    7 years ago

Hogg, 17, said fellow survivor Ryan Deitsch was also turned down by UCLA.

"It's not been too great for me and some of the other members of the movement, like Ryan Deitsch," he said, according to TMZ .

So the kid isn't trying to be a private citizen. He went on freaking TMZ to talk about how he got rejected by these colleges and then accused them of rejecting him for political reasons:

"If colleges want to support us in that, great, if they don't it doesn't matter, we're still going to change the world," he said.

So if you're 17, you can go on national television, blame your failures (to get into college) on others, and accuse specific college admission authorities of being political, and no one gets to criticize you for it? No one gets to call you out for being a whiny, entitled brat? Sorry, but that's horseshit.

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Tacos! @9    7 years ago

So the kid isn't trying to be a private citizen. He went on freaking TMZ to talk about how he got rejected by these colleges and then accused them of rejecting him for political reasons:

If I understand you correctly, you are strongly supportive of the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. But for some strange reason you're not much of a fan of the 1st Amendment.

Why?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Krishna @9.1    7 years ago

Of course he is. But the problem with potty mouthed David, is that he does have that freedom to say what he wants to. However, he has to suffer the consequences of what his spoken words might bring to him...which could include scorn, ridicule, and rejection by older, educated, intelligent people with way more common sense than he (Hogg) has displayed. After all, aren't universities bastions of liberalism?

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1.1    7 years ago
he has to suffer the consequences of what his spoken words might bring to him...which could include scorn, ridicule, and rejection by older, educated, intelligent people with way more common sense than he (Hogg) has displayed.

Actually he and the other kids have been tremendously effective! (In fact much more so than previous gun control activists-- who were for the most part much older!).

But what have been the actual consequences of his actions? 

Well, the usual idiots are spreading fake news alternative facts lies about him-- that's one consequence . Believe me--it unbelieveable! Check it out for yourself-- the details are YUGE!!!

5 Times Parkland Shooting Survivors Were Falsely Criticized (Photos)

But there's been another consequence of their actions-- and I can tell you this (believe me-- once again!) this one is more than being merely unbelievable- - its actually  BIGLY   UNBELIEVABLE-- and that is YUGE!

This I can tell you:

Ingraham apologizes as advertisers bail

 
 
 
Randy
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9.1.4  Randy  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1.1    7 years ago
But the problem with potty mouthed David, is that he does have that freedom to say what he wants to. However, he has to suffer the consequences of what his spoken words might bring to him.

As does Laura.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  Randy @9.1.4    7 years ago

Right wingers always are shocked when they learn that there can be consequences to their speech.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Krishna @9.1    7 years ago
If I understand you correctly, you are strongly supportive of the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. But for some strange reason you're not much of a fan of the 1st Amendment.

You don't understand me correctly. I don't know where you got the idea that I don't support the 1st Amendment. I leave it to you to explain yourself.

 
 
 
lib50
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9.1.7  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @9.1.6    7 years ago

You and Laura need to understand there are consequences to everything.  She said something, it was widely interpreted (and we don't need it translated by the right), and this young man called her out on her insults. Being a smart person, he knew how to respond.  If advertisers want to be associated with hateful snark, they can stay.  If they don't, they leave.  That's exactly how capitalism works.  Are you complaining about that?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9.1.8  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @9.1.7    7 years ago
Are you complaining about that?

Not at all. I disagree with their decision. You got a problem with that?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @9    7 years ago

I think it's horseshit that you think he's a whiny entitled brat.

He's disappointed in the 4 rejections and proud of the acceptance letters from at least 3 good schools, 2 in Cailfornia, though not in his preferred surfing areas.

No surprise that California declined an out of state student over resident CA  students - it happens everywhere, every year; all colleges have quotas for such things.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @9.2    7 years ago
I think it's horseshit that you think he's a whiny entitled brat.

I perceive from your comments that you simply do not understand why he is properly characterized as a whiny entitled brat. I do not make the characterization without rationale.

A young man who does not have a sense of entitlement understands that college admission is generally based on merit and not on politics. You put together your best application and sometimes you get admitted and sometimes you don't. That's life. But here, this kid makes the clear implication that his political activism and that of his fellows is keeping them out of their preferred colleges. So, it's not that they come up short, it's that others are unfairly depriving them of something they are owed. That's entitlement.

Then he goes on social media and national television to complain about this imagined injustice to as many people as possible. That makes him whiny.

He does this, I believe, because he is young. He has not yet learned personal responsibility. Some of this is surely not his fault. So many voices in society tell our young people that their failings are someone else's fault and it's a very tempting thing to believe. But he also must realize at this point that many people are seeking to protect him from criticism on the grounds that he is a "child." Acting like a child because you know people will excuse the behavior because you are a child seems like an apt description of a "brat."

Drawing a hard line on age is absurd in this case, especially for a thing like speech, and also especially when that line is 17/18. We have many thousands of 17 year olds in jail because they were tried as adults. The 17/18 year old line is not as hard and fast as you and others are making it out to be.

 
 
 
lib50
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9.2.2  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @9.2.1    7 years ago

He wasn't whining when he made those comments, if you listened to the piece.  Ingraham made it sound like he did because she wanted to denigrate him.  The right is very frightened by these kids and want to do what they can to bring them down.  Guess it won't be as easy as they thought.  These kids grew up with all this and they know BS when they see it.  Don't start complaining about capitalism now because you don't like the result.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9.2.4  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @9.2.2    7 years ago
He wasn't whining when he made those comments, if you listened to the piece.

Here's the difference between our arguments. I gave you specific reasons why I would characterize his comments as "whining." 1) He blamed his problem on others 2) He accused those others of being unfair 3) He went out of his way to make these complaints to as many people as he could, i.e. social media and TMZ.

Your only support that it's not whining is I should simply listen to him. Because, apparently, your take is the only truth and it's self-evident. I find that a weak argument.

Ingraham made it sound like he did because she wanted to denigrate him.

Her reasons are her own. I have no animosity toward the kid, but I agree with the assessment that he's whining.

The right is very frightened by these kids

Some might be, I guess. I am not remotely frightened of them.

These kids grew up with all this and they know BS when they see it.

How do you know that? What do you base that on? The long history of teenagers being wise and discerning? Or is it just that they said something you like?

 
 
 
JBB
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10  JBB    7 years ago

Hay! Laura! Leave Those Kids Alone...

 
 
 
Krishna
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10.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @10    7 years ago
Hay! Laura! Leave Those Kids Alone...

Well, they certainly don't need no thought control...!!!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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10.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Krishna @10.1    7 years ago
Well, they certainly don't need no thought control...!!!

Perhaps not, but that dark sarcasm in the classroom might come in handy some day.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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10.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Krishna @10.1    7 years ago
Well, they certainly don't need no thought control...!!!

We don't need no NRAducation
We just need some gun control
No gun store chasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them guns alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them guns alone
All in all it's just another trick in the war
All in all you're just another kick in their balls

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11  Kavika     7 years ago

Damn, attack the kid with everything from him being gay to a number of ridiculous claims..

The skinny 17 year old has the righties whining and crying...LMAO 

Seems the skinny kid is the only one wearing big boy pants...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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11.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Kavika @11    7 years ago

Nah...he popped up out of obscurity and opened his yap loudly and profanely about things he knows nothing about. He's earned every bit of criticism that has been thrown his way. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @11.1    7 years ago

Speaking of popping open ones yap, those attacking him yaps are hanging open without a conherent thought dribbling out.

LOL

 
 
 
Krishna
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11.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @11.1    7 years ago
Nah...he popped up out of obscurity and opened his yap loudly and profanely about things he knows nothing about

WTF?

Believe me, he knows more about what went down in Parkland that you or I do. Because he was actually there! 

DUH!

 
 
 
Krishna
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11.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @11.1.1    7 years ago
Speaking of popping open ones yap, those attacking him yaps are hanging open without a conherent thought dribbling out.

Yes-- their total hypocrisy is unbelievable . . .that I can tell you!

 
 
 
Kavika
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11.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Krishna @11.1.3    7 years ago

It's bigly hypocrisy....

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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11.1.5  Raven Wing   replied to  Kavika @11.1.4    7 years ago
"It's bigly hypocrisy...."

If it wasn't for hypocrisy they'd have nothing going for them at all. And the funny thing is, they know it.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1.6  JBB  replied to  Raven Wing @11.1.5    7 years ago
And the funny thing is, they know it.

Any political POV dependent on assassinating a kid's character is dying...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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11.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @11    7 years ago

Somebody yesterday made a rude comment about his big head and his skinny body as if to say that's a sign he's gay.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.3.1  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @11.3    7 years ago

Yeah, typical lil dick people that can't actually think but have to try to throw an insult...I would say if that a big deal to the person that said it. ''it takes one to know one''....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @11.3.1    7 years ago

I don't think this person has a dick.....

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.3.3  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.3.2    7 years ago

I think we know it........

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12  JohnRussell    7 years ago

At the rate things are falling apart for her she may not have a tv job in the morning. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
12.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @12    7 years ago

Poor olde Laura Ingraham is sort of The Poor Man's Greta Van Cistern...

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Quiet
14  PJ    7 years ago

I'm not sure why anyone would criticize a student for expressing disappointment in NOT getting accepting into a college they applied for.  No one likes to admit being rejected so I thought it was refreshing he would admit it.   

On the other hand, Ms. Ingraham's response is an example of what bully's do to those they consider weaker then they are.  It's also why those picked on end up showing up at school with guns. 

 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
14.1  Tacos!  replied to  PJ @14    7 years ago
I'm not sure why anyone would criticize a student for expressing disappointment in NOT getting accepting into a college they applied for.

That's not what happened here. He's being criticized for publicly accusing the schools (without evidence) of rejecting him because of his activism instead of allowing that it might have simply been an honest appraisal of his academic record.

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Quiet
14.1.1  PJ  replied to  Tacos! @14.1    7 years ago

That's not my recollection at all.  I watched him talking about his rejections.  He embarrassingly laughed it off and said that even though he was going through this tragedy it goes to show that life still goes on.  As was evident by the rejections he received like other teenagers who had applied to multiple colleges.

He also tweeted about it.  

David Hogg, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School senior and a student leader of the #NeverAgain movement against gun violence, was rejected from UC San Diego on Friday.

On Friday, Hogg tweeted , “Just got rejected from another college but that’s ok we’re already changing the world. Goodnight everyone.” Hogg later confirmed that he had been denied admittance to UCSD in response to a tweet suggesting he attend a California college.

It doesn't sound like he was complaining.  It's clear he's responding like thousands of other teenagers who were rejected.  

The twisting of his words and facts is pretty pathetic.

 
 

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