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Israeli PM presents devastating array of evidence Iran is cheating on nuke deal

  

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Via:  badfish-h-s-fsh  •  8 years ago  •  147 comments

Israeli PM presents devastating array of evidence Iran is cheating on nuke deal

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu revealed new "dramatic" intelligence Monday which he claimed shows Iran is "brazenly lying" about its nuclear weapons program and shows the country is not complying with the vaunted nuclear deal it signed in 2015.

WATCH LIVE: NETANYAHU SPEAKS ON IRAN DEAL

The information was obtained within the past 10 days, Israeli officials told Fox News. Netanyahu said the 'half a ton" of files were moved to a "highly secret" location in Tehran after the deal was signed, and contained materials spread over 55,000 pages and 55,000 files on 183 CD's.


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"These files conclusively prove that Iran is brazenly lying when it says it never had a nuclear weapons program," he said. 


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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shows where Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a location in Tehran after signing the nuclear deal.   (AP)



Netanyahu displayed what he said was "an exact copy" fo the original materials, which are now in "very safe place" and include incriminating documents, charts, presentations, blueprints, and photos. 

Speaking a nationally televised address, Israel's prime minister said the material is filled with incriminating evidence showing the Iranian program, called "Project Amad," was to develop a weapon.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/30/netanyahu-set-to-reveal-dramatic-intelligence-about-iran-nuke-deal-report-says.html


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Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 years ago

This might be the least surprising announcement in history. 

Iran cheats

Obama is a sap

Water is wet.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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4.1  Spikegary  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 years ago

That about covers it.  WHo thought the Iranians wouldn't develop Nuclear Weapons?  And we gave them a lot of money to finance the program.  Will it be Israel or us to be the first recipient of an Iranian Nuclear Weapons 'test'?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Spikegary @4.1    8 years ago

How about instead of an hour long speech about what the Iranians might be doing,

Benji, instead gives us the complete rundowns on what is rumored to be the 3rd largest nuclear arms stockpile in the world - Israel.

Israel along with India, NK, Pakistan are not participants in Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

Why is that?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.1    8 years ago
Why is that?

Why does it matter. Israel is not in the business of starting wars.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.2    8 years ago

Are you kidding?

There have been many arguments here about Israel striking first as a 'defensive' move in different ME conflicts.

It's an Israeli tactic.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.3    8 years ago

One such incident involved the USS Liberty and they killed 34 US sailors....

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.1    8 years ago
Benji, instead gives us the complete rundowns on what is rumored to be the 3rd largest nuclear arms stockpile in the world - Israel.

Why just rumours, no proof SP?

Sometimes speculation can be more of a deterrent than actuality.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.5    8 years ago

Like Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.1.7  Skrekk  replied to  Spikegary @4.1    8 years ago
That about covers it.

Covers what - the fact that right wingers are incredibly gullible and easily manipulated by fear mongers, or that Netanyahu knows that?

 
 
 
DocPhil
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5  DocPhil    8 years ago

Iran and Israel are locked in a death grip. Each would like to see the other demolished. The reality is that their political leaderships would like to see each other demolished. The Ayatollah and his political ministers and Netanyahu and his warhawk coalition would love to destroy one another. This goes back centuries to disputes between the ancient Persians and the Israelites. What is most interesting is this is not really an Arab-Israeli conflict. The Iranians are not technically considered Arabs. Persians never have been. Before the Ayatollahs, they were the most westernized nation in the Middle East.

Both nations are now governed by autocrats. Netanyahu is the Israeli version of Trump and his popularity in Israel has plummeted. He is under indictment and his future is sketchy. It is so fascinating that he wants to spread his war mongering on Fox. He knows that they will accept and air his accusations without thorough vetting. Could it be truthful? I don't know. I am certain that Iran is cheating on the deal.

I am also certain that every treaty and agreement that we've signed in the past 200 years have been broken by both or multiple sides. What these agreements do is slow or speed things up. They maintain a pace that keeps us safer. There are no perfect agreements.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  DocPhil @5    8 years ago
Each would like to see the other demolished.

Not in the least bit true....Israel simply wants to be left alone. The Arab and Muslim world seek to destroy it. Israel needs nukes for self defense.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    8 years ago
Israel simply wants to be left alone.

That must be why they're currently lobbing missiles into Syria and sniper bullets into Gaza.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @5.2.1    8 years ago

LOL. That is probably the most biased comment I've seen in a while - deserves some kind of award.  Maybe Ha'aretz or B'selem will create one for you.

Israel has been bombing weaponry in Syria headed for Hezbollah to use to wipe Israel off the map, and the setting up of Iranian bases that it can use to attack Israel (evidenced by the drone base that sent the drone over Israel, that Israel shot down).  The bullets fired into Gaza is at Hamas organizers of the demonstrations used to cover attempts to break through the border fence, and at those who attempt to break through the fence and throw molotov cocktails and fly flaming kites over the fence to burn the Israeli fields.  Innocents like the 7 year old girl Hamas sent to the fence as a provocation (supporting their "hiding behind children" reputation) are returned by the IDF safely to their parents.

Who was it who used to say: "And that's the REST of the story."?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.3  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.2    8 years ago

Hmmmmm......if Israel didn't want organizations like Hezbollah to exist perhaps they shouldn't have engaged in a brutal occupation of southern Lebanon?

Karma.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @5.2.3    8 years ago

The purpose of Israel’s presence in Lebanon has always been to ensure the security of its northern border. In March 1978, Israel launched Operation Litani, taking control of southern Lebanon in an effort to curb cross-border attacks by Palestinian terrorists. Immediately following the start of Israel’s military operations in Lebanon, the U.N. Security Council passed two resolutions. Resolution 425 called for Israel’s withdrawal from all Lebanese territory and Resolution 426 established the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), a peacekeeping force that remains in Lebanon today.

In June 1982, after the continued shelling of northern Israel by Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) forces based in Lebanon, Israel launched a full-scale invasion of Lebanon, eventually driving the PLO out of the country. Israeli troops completed a phased withdrawal from Lebanon in June 1985 and created a 9-mile wide security zone in Southern Lebanon controlled by Israel and its Lebanese allies, the South Lebanon Army (SLA).

Continued tension along the Israeli-Lebanese border led to frequent clashes between Israeli forces and the Syrian-Iranian backed Hezbollah. In July 1993, following the killing of seven Israeli soldiers in Southern Lebanon, Israel launched "Operation Accountability" against Hezbollah terrorists. Then in April 1996, Israel launched "Operation Grapes of Wrath," striking at targets in Lebanon to retaliate for Hezbollah rocket attacks on northern Israel. During the course of its operations in Lebanon, Israel always maintained that it would terminate its counterattacks if Hezbollah would cease launching Katyusha rockets into northern Israel.

By the way, Skrekk, I was in Northern Israel in 2000, touring a kibbutz, and had to run and hide in a bomb shelter because bombs attached to helium balloons were drifting south from Lebanon.  WAS YOU (EVER) THERE, CHARLIE? ...or do you just get your information from Israel-bashing sites like Ha'aretz and organizations like BDS-supporting J-Street?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.5  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.4    8 years ago

As I said, if Israel didn't want organizations like Hezbollah to exist perhaps they shouldn't have engaged in their brutal occupation of southern Lebanon?    Israel has richly earned all the karma it gets on that front.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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5.2.6  Spikegary  replied to  Skrekk @5.2.5    8 years ago

More obtuse one-sidedness.  Why do you even bother as you pretend not to even see the other side of the story?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.7  Skrekk  replied to  Spikegary @5.2.6    8 years ago
Why do you even bother as you pretend not to even see the other side of the story?

What's the other side of the story......the fact that neither you or Greg have ever read the JCPOA and apparently know nothing about what the IAEA's Additional Protocol with Iran entail?

Or are you referring to the fact that most of the current issues wouldn't even exist if the US had met its treaty obligations under the NPT to assist non-weapons states in the use of nuclear energy, and hadn't run a campaign of war and terrorism against Iran since 1979?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Netanyahu is a personal friend of Donald Trump, which unfortunately calls his integrity into question. 

When I see whatever materials Netanyahu is speaking of appear in a more credible format I will give it consideration. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 years ago

Watching Netanyahu feels like watching Trump. I just can’t believe a word he’s saying. And I didn’t used to feel this way.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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6.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    8 years ago

Any word from Gimlet Eye yet? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.1    8 years ago

It's sad that many people will look at something like this from Netanhayu and just assume he is lying or being deceptive. 

Lo and behold, stories from other news sources saying Netanyahu's "new" information is not new and was taken into account before the nuclear deal with Iran was signed. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.4    8 years ago
US Intel has verified the accuracy of the allegations and documents.

Too bad the IAEA says the claims are unsupported, eh?

Maybe you and your buddy Trump can pull another Dubya and attack a country with bogus intel which the IAEA has debunked.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.6    8 years ago

BF, the U.S. was about to be forced by an international court order to return that money to Iran. Because it was Iran's money. 

Obama got something for it. If he waited much longer, we would have had to give it back for nothing. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.9  Skrekk  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.6    8 years ago
Not my buddy, i just want a refund on your Buddy's crappy deal where he gave away the people's money to a lunatic regime of nut bags.

(Skirting) Telo Trump are why no sane nation would ever sign a treaty with the US today, or ever have confidence that the US would live up to its side of any bargain.    

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.11  Raven Wing   replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.8    8 years ago
John, you comments on this board mean nothing because you are blinded by Obama's farts.

And you think YOUR comments, most of which are nothing but pure derailing nonsense, mean more than John's? No one's comments here on this board men more or less than anyone else's. Just because you don't like them does not mean they are worthless any more than any of your own. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.8    8 years ago

You claimed that Obama gave Iran taxpayers money. That is a lie. You don't have to repeat this FoxNews/Breitbart crap, but you do. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.14  Raven Wing   replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.13    8 years ago
Thank you for your comment.........

You are most welcome. I am glad to help anytime. crazy

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.4    8 years ago
US Intel has verified the accuracy of the allegations and documents.

in 2015.........much of the information has been seen before, as far back as 2003.

It's just BB dangling the car keys in front of his base to distract them from his embarassing personal issues...

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.16  Skrekk  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.4    8 years ago
US Intel has verified the accuracy of the allegations and documents.

Really?   This is from news sources other than your buddies at Faux News:

Meanwhile, two U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the intelligence assessment told NBC News that there is no evidence that Iran is cheating on the agreement.

Dylan WIlliams, vice president for government affairs at J Street, a left-leaning pro-Israel group, agreed.

"While Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump have long been determined to undermine this agreement, their own security establishments continue to confirm that the deal is working and that Iran is compliant with all of its commitments," Williams said in a statement. "Nothing we were shown today contradicts or disproves that expert assessment.”

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @6.1.16    8 years ago
"J Street, a left-leaning pro-Israel group, agreed."

J Street...a PRO-ISRAEL group?

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Skrekk
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6.1.18  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.17    8 years ago
J Street...a PRO-ISRAEL group?

Yep, they're just not rabid Likudniks like AIPAC is.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1.19  Dulay  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.8    8 years ago
John, you comments on this board mean nothing because you are blinded by Obama's farts.

So do you refute the FACT that the money was Iran's and that the international court had ruled that the US must pay Iran back OR are you just into attacking that particular member? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 years ago
"Netanyahu is a personal friend of Donald Trump, which unfortunately calls his integrity into question."

Obama was a personal friend of Erdogan, which unfortunately calls Obama's integrity into question.

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Spikegary
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6.2.2  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.1    8 years ago

Yes it does.  Edrogan is a dictator and has gone about making himself ruler for life by altering the Turkish Constitution to keep himself in power....people there are scared to speak out.....sounds like so many other countries with tin-pot dictators.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Here is an article that contends that the information presented today by Netanyahu as "new" has largely been known for many years, and was known prior to the nuclear agreement with Iran in 2015. 

With someone like Netanyahu, who is unfortunately not an honest person when it comes to such matters as this, we have to find other sources of information to find out what the hell is really going on. 

This smells like collusion with the Trump administration to provide cover for Trump's desire to leave the nuke deal. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @7    8 years ago

So we should believe and trust the Supreme Leader and his criminal mullahs. What good can come for the US by staying in the ripoff?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1    8 years ago
So we should believe and trust the Supreme Leader and his criminal mullahs.

I believe the IAEA and the intelligence agencies of the members of the agreement. I do not believe Israel, that is for damn sure. When it comes to this issue I treat ANYTHING they say with extreme skepticism. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1.3  Dulay  replied to    8 years ago
You realize the EU wants cheap oil right just like in Iraq the EU country's let saddam sell oil.

You know that 'saddam' has been DEAD for years right? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @7    8 years ago

"...was known prior to the nuclear agreement with Iran in 2015."

Maybe it WAS known, but who knew it was being saved to keep on using it? The documents were for the purpose of producing nuclear weapons. Didn't Iran swear that they never had any intention to produce nuclear weapons?  In your opinion, Iran always tells the truth?  It seems to be of no consequence to many here, and in the rest of the world, that the WORLD'S PRIMARY SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM AND TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS, WHOSE CHANT IS "DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL" is GOING to be making nuclear weapons one day if not already. How many of you are going to be alive 10 years from now?  Because of my age I'll most likely not be around, but do you not have even the SLIGHTEST concern, if not for yourselves, at least for your children?  You TRUST the Iranian government?  You don't believe they are the primary supporter of declared terrorist group Hezbollah sending them thousands of missiles and advanced weapons to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth? Have they not been caught red-handed shipping weapons to declared terrorist group Hamas? Have they proven themselves to be trustworthy over the years?  Wait till the evidence is produced in court in Argentina. You believe in their HONESTY? Have you never heard of TAKIYYAH?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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8  Colour Me Free    8 years ago

I think that an unrestricted Special Counsel Counterintelligence Investigation should be authorized to scrutinize the negotiations encompassing the Iran nuclear deal and dig for any criminal violations.

Just to make sure there was no collusion with a foreign entity .. etc...

Obama’s hidden Iran deal giveaway

By dropping charges against major arms targets, the administration infuriated Justice Department officials — and undermined its own counterproliferation task forces.

Obama agreed to ‘lay off’ Hezbollah terrorists if Iran signed nuclear deal, new investigation finds

A special counsel to probe Obama administration’s collusion with lslamist Iran?

By diving into everyone's personal lives, I am quite certain 'violations' can be found and plea agreements reached... no one will have said that there is actually a scope to the investigation ... it will be a 'fishing expedition' with FISA warrants .. etc .. sounds fun / familiar huh? : )

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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9  Thrawn 31    8 years ago

Yeah, lemme know when any of this is verified by ours and other intelligence agencies. On this issue Israel is competing with Saudi Arabia for having the least credibility. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1  Skrekk  replied to  Thrawn 31 @9    8 years ago
Yeah, lemme know when any of this is verified by ours and other intelligence agencies.

So far the IAEA says these claims are not supported by any evidence and are not credible.    They're the ones who really matter.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.1    8 years ago

That they were legitimate in 2015 when they went into storage?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.4  Skrekk  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.3    8 years ago
It's beyond comprehension why anyone would support such a ridiculous deal.

I know, right?   It's just horrible to have Iran constrained by the NPT's Additional Protocol.    The world will be better again when they no longer have that constraint.

.

Clearly why the treaty was not brought up for debate in our Senate.

Or it could be that's because it isn't a treaty.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.3    8 years ago
It's beyond comprehension why anyone would support such a ridiculous deal.

Some call it 'kicking the can down the road".  Some call it it stalling.

Maybe the Head Khomeini will die and someone more reasonable will emerge in th future.

It's the ME, I don't think it's supposed to make sense to us.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.5    8 years ago

Did the Paris accord collapse when Trump pulled out?

How about the TPP?  Now Trump wants to rejoin it and they aren't exactly welcoming us, are they?

Trump's withdrawal, only elevates Putin & Xi Jinping's world standing. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.9  Skrekk  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.5    8 years ago
Well it won't be an agreement anymore.

Why, because the dimwits in the US withdraw from the JCPOA?    That in itself does nothing, what matters is whether Iran chooses to withdraw too (as they've threatened to do).

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.4    8 years ago
Or it could be that's because it isn't a treaty.

Yep, it's an "agreement" that is unverifiable that has already been broken.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.11  Skrekk  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1.10    8 years ago
Yep, it's an "agreement" that is unverifiable that has already been broken.

Hmmmm.......sounds like you know nothing about the JCPOA or the NPT's Additional Protocol.

Fortunately it's the IAEA which matters and they say that Iran is in compliance with the agreement.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.4    8 years ago

LOL. Iran has been so well known for honouring UN resolutions about their producing missiles, that we should all have absolute faith in their honouring NPT protocols.  Still not interested in those highway toll booth rights I have for sale? That's a surprise.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.13  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.12    8 years ago
Iran has been so well known for honouring UN resolutions

Sounds like they're just imitating Israel.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.13    8 years ago

LOL. The UN isn't biased against Israel, right Skrekk?  Are you sure you're not interested in those Highway tollbooth rights?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.15  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.14    8 years ago

Sounds like the UN doesn't like Apartheid states.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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9.1.16  Spikegary  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.15    8 years ago

They were just fine with South Africa unitl it became a 'cause' championed by the mouthpieces of the world, then suddenly they thought it was a bad thing.  Hang your hat on the U.N. doing the right thing.....and they will probably steal it form you.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.17  Skrekk  replied to  Spikegary @9.1.16    8 years ago
They were just fine with South Africa unitl it became a 'cause' championed by the mouthpieces of the world, then suddenly they thought it was a bad thing.

That's just an incredibly ignorant comment, complete BS.   The UN general assembly opposed SA's Apartheid regime since at least the early 1960s immediately after the Sharpeville massacre, but the first attempts at UN action were made very shortly after the UN was founded and had majority support.   It was the US & UK which prevented the UNSC from taking any action until Carter became President.    Conservatives like Reagan were particularly bad on this issue and Reagan even prevented the full enforcement of US sanctions which the Anti-Apartheid Act required.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.17    8 years ago

Even South African officials have declared that Israel is not an Apartheid State.  Only Jew-haters and Israel-bashers continue to do so.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.19  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.18    8 years ago

I can certainly see why even South Africa wouldn't want to be associated in any way with the vile Likudnik government of Israel.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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10  Raven Wing     8 years ago

I am a very big supporter of Israel, but, I do not trust, nor believe, anything that Netanyahu says, or does. As long as he and the leader of Palestine are in power, there will never be peace between the two entities. Trump and Netanyahu like each other because they are two of a kind, both manipulative and liars, and only in it for themselves. 

Netanyahu is indecisive and mentally unfit for his position, just like Trump. And he, like Trump, acts more like a dictator, than just merely the current leader of their country. 

I know this will ruffle many feathers, but, that is their problem. I have several friends and associates who live in Israel, and they, like many others there, don't  trust Netanyahu. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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10.1  Skrekk  replied to  Raven Wing @10    8 years ago

Likudniks like Netanyahu are the real problem.    They're just as bad as our T-baggers but in Netanyahu's case he's using Iran to distract from his own rather serious legal problems.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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10.1.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Skrekk @10.1    8 years ago
but in Netanyahu's case he's using Iran to distract from his own rather serious legal problems.

Looks like he and Trump are taking lessons from each other in this aspect. However, one can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but, you can't fool all the people all of the time. Something is seems both of them have yet to learn. 

 
 
 
lennylynx
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12  lennylynx    8 years ago

Benny the Knitting Yahoo is nothing but a terrorist himself.  Who gives a fuck what he has to say?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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13  Tacos!    8 years ago

If we had negotiated for real inspections, we wouldn't have to wonder about it.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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13.1  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @13    8 years ago

Maybe you should actually learn something about the JCPOA or the NPT's Additional Protocol?    The IAEA's inspection protocol in Iran is the strictest in the world.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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13.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @13.1    8 years ago
The IAEA's inspection protocol in Iran is the strictest in the world

Even if true, it's clearly not good enough or we wouldn't be arguing about the validity of Netanyahu's accusations.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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13.1.2  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @13.1.1    8 years ago
Even if true, it's clearly not good enough or we wouldn't be arguing about the validity of Netanyahu's accusations.

It just means that right wingers are incredibly gullible and clueless given that the IAEA addressed these particular allegations many years ago.   Even newspapers in Israel are ridiculing Netanyahu for rehashing very old news.

But even if you believe that Iran had a weapons program from 1999-2003 as Netanyahu claims, why would you then make the comment you did which implied that the requirements of the JCPOA today aren't "real inspections"?    That's just a really ignorant comment.    Maybe you need to read something other than Faux News?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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13.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @13.1.1    8 years ago

No one is arguing. The only thing it proves is, that before the records were put in storage in 2015, the Iranians were lying, which everyone already knew.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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13.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @13.1.2    8 years ago

You seem to be assigning some kind of irrational political motivation to me, but honestly, it sounds like you're projecting. Are you not at all concerned about Iran? You're so sure Netanyahu is lying. Why would he need to?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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13.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @13.1.4    8 years ago
You're so sure Netanyahu is lying. Why would he need to?

It's more like he's deliberately misleading the gullible right wingers in the US by rehashing stuff which was dealt with long ago.   Maybe you should read what the US government really thinks about this issue?     They sure don't share your fears or your lack of knowledge.

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Are you not at all concerned about Iran?

Why would I be?   The question is why are you fretting about Iran, particularly given their choice to remove 98% of their LEU from the country and to subject themselves to the NPT's Additional Protocol?

But given the current and historic threats the US and Israel have posed to Iran I'm just glad that they achieved nuclear latency before giving up their weapons program.

 
 

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